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Getbig related because this might have been Dr. Chimps; Sharma's had him melting all over the board lately and I'm still waiting to hear back from the PM I sent him earlier to check on him... :'(
Animal experts are baffled by chimp attack
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jvlkKth37Fp__GL6KYdl2b1s6dBgD96DNV5G0
STAMFORD, Conn. (AP) — Travis the chimpanzee, a veteran of TV commercials, was the constant companion of a lonely Connecticut widow who fed him steak, lobster and ice cream. He could eat at the table, drink wine from a stemmed glass, use the toilet, and dress and bathe himself.
He brushed his teeth with a Water Pik, logged on to a computer to look at photos post on Getbig and channel-surfed television with the remote control.
But on Monday, the wild animal in him came out with a vengeance.
The 200-pound animal viciously mauled a friend of his owner before being shot to death by police.
Investigators are trying to figure out why — whether it was a bout of Lyme disease, a reaction to drugs, or a case of instinct taking over.
"It's hard to say what exactly precipitated this behavior," said Colleen McCann, a primatologist at the Bronx Zoo. "At the end of the day, they are not human and you can't always predict their behavior and how they or any other wild animal will respond when they feel threatened."
Travis attacked 55-year-old Charla Nash as Sandra Herold frantically stabbed her beloved pet with a butcher knife and pounded him with a shovel. Nash was in critical condition Tuesday with "life-changing, if not life-threatening," injuries to her face and hands, Mayor Dannel Malloy said.
Police said they are looking into the possibility of criminal charges. A pet owner can be held criminally responsible if he or she knew or should have known that an animal was a danger to others.
In recordings of calls to 911 dispatchers released Tuesday, Travis' grunts can be heard as a frantic Herold cries that her pet is "eating" Nash and must be killed. The attack lasted about 12 minutes.
"The chimp killed my friend!" says a sobbing Herold, who was hiding in her vehicle. "Send the police with a gun. With a gun!"
The dispatcher later asks, "Who's killing your friend?"
"My chimpanzee!" she cries. "He ripped her apart! Shoot him, shoot him!"
After police arrive, one officer radios back: "There's a man down. He doesn't look good," he says, referring to Nash. "We've got to get this guy out of here. He's got no face."
Herold told New York-based WNYW-TV in an interview that aired Tuesday night that she has agonized over Nash's injuries and that Travis' death is "something that I can't hardly live with because he went in his room and died, and I wasn't with him. I couldn't get back in the house."
Police said that Travis was agitated earlier Monday and that Herold had given him the anti-anxiety drug Xanax in some tea. Police said the drug had not been prescribed for the 14-year-old chimp.
In humans, Xanax can cause memory loss, lack of coordination, reduced sex drive and other side effects. It can also lead to aggression in people who were unstable to begin with, said Dr. Emil Coccaro, chief of psychiatry at the University of Chicago Medical Center.
"Xanax could have made him worse," if human studies are any indication, Coccaro said.
Stephen Rene Tello, executive director of Primarily Primates, a sanctuary for chimps in Texas, said it is difficult to say what effect Xanax would have on a chimp, but he noted that chimps and humans have similar physiology.
Investigators said they were also told that Travis had Lyme disease, a tick-borne illness with flu-like symptoms that can lead to arthritis and meningitis in humans.
"Maybe from the medications he was out of sorts," Stamford police Capt. Richard Conklin said.
Herold could not be reached for comment. A woman answering the door at Herold's home, where drops of blood stained the walkway, would not speak to reporters Tuesday. Conklin said Herold was "traumatized by this very, very brutal attack."
Don Mecca, a family friend from Colchester, N.Y., said Herold, whose daughter died several years ago in a car accident, fed the chimp steak, lobster, ice cream and Italian food.
Herold built the chimpanzee a large cage in her home. She knew chimps could be dangerous but found it hard to part with Travis, Mecca said.
McCann of the Bronx Zoo said chimpanzees are unpredictable and dangerous even after living among humans for years.
"I don't know the effects of Lyme disease on chimpanzees, but I will say that it's deceiving to think that if any animal is, quote-unquote, well-behaved around humans that means there is no risk involved to humans for potential outbursts of behavior," she said. "They are unpredictable, and in instances like this you cannot control that behavior or prevent it from happening if it is in a private home."
Connecticut law requires anyone who owns a primate heavier than 50 pounds to obtain a state permit. But Herold was exempted from the law.
"Given that the family in Stamford owned Travis before this law was put on the books, and the fact that over the years the animal did not appear to present a public safety risk, their possession of the chimpanzee was allowed to continue," said Dennis Schain, spokesman for the state Department of Environmental Protection.
When he was younger, Travis starred in TV commercials for Old Navy and Coca-Cola, made an appearance on the "Maury Povich Show" and took part in a television pilot, according to a 2003 story in The Advocate newspaper of Stamford.
"He's been raised almost like a child by this family," Conklin said. "He rides in a car every day. He opens doors. He's a very unique animal in that aspect. We have no indication of what provoked this behavior at all."
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false alarm, the dr. showed up at work as he does every day
(http://i39.tinypic.com/v3dhe8.jpg)
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false alarm, the dr. showed up at work as he does every day
(http://i39.tinypic.com/v3dhe8.jpg)
Brutal stressful bokeh in that picture. Epic useless lens.
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In tests at the Bronx Zoo in 1924, a dynamometer — a scale that measures the mechanical force of a pull on a spring — was erected in the monkey house. A 165-pound male chimpanzee named "Boma" registered a pull of 847 pounds, using only his right hand ). A 165-pound man, by comparison, could manage a one-handed pull of about 210 pounds. Even more frightening, a female chimp, weighing a mere 135 pounds and going by the name of Suzette, checked in with a one-handed pull of 1,260 pounds. (She was in a fit of passion at the time; one shudders to think what her boyfriend must have looked like next morning.)
In dead lifts, chimps have been known to manage weights of 600 pounds without even breaking into a sweat. A male gorilla could probably heft an 1,800-pound weight and not think twice about it.
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The 911 audio was chilling..."he's eating her, he's eating her..."
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ok, its a wild fucking animal kept in captivity. in the wild they can be violent. why is this attack so surprising?
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Just goes to show you don`t monkey around with Dr. Chimps.
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ok, its a wild fucking animal kept in captivity. in the wild they can be violent. why is this attack so surprising?
If you look at the majority of competent people weighing in on the matter it does not come as a surprise to them since, as you said, it is a wild fucking animal. What is surprising to people is the reality of watching your friends face being eaten, her limbs torn off, and her eyes gouged out while you watch from the safety of your car - until you realize, that is, that the chimp has the keys to the car and opposable thumbs. Once he gets bored you're out of luck...
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seriously, though...i think dr. chimps is a professional animal trainer for the movie industry, maybe specializing in chimpanzees, so he was probably familiar with this particular individual
not sure about it, but something tells me so...
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this happened 10 mins away from me :o
i remember seeing this chimp riding around in a car with the owner years ago
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That wasn't Dr. Chimps.
Dr. Chimps wears a suit and rollerskates and smokes a cigar.
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That wasn't Dr. Chimps.
Dr. Chimps wears a suit and rollerskates and smokes a cigar.
I hope you're right but he still isn't posting bro.
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That wasn't Dr. Chimps.
Dr. Chimps wears a suit and rollerskates and smokes a cigar.
He is a very intelligent man no doubt.
He could be one of those gorilla mofos planet of the apes.
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Dr. Chimps has mad skills.
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In tests at the Bronx Zoo in 1924, a dynamometer — a scale that measures the mechanical force of a pull on a spring — was erected in the monkey house. A 165-pound male chimpanzee named "Boma" registered a pull of 847 pounds, using only his right hand ).
yea, i'm gonna go ahead and call bullshit
dynamometer?
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I call bullsheet on all those primate power claims. Are they strong? Sure. Are they 2000% stronger than us? No. It's just like Michael Phelps eating 12,000 calories. Nonsense.
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I call bullsheet on all those primate power claims. Are they strong? Sure. Are they 2000% stronger than us? No. It's just like Michael Phelps eating 12,000 calories. Nonsense.
Are you saying that you wouldn't mind fighting a monkey to the death, Tommy?
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Are you saying that you wouldn't mind fighting a monkey to the death, Tommy?
Last week in Vegas, I paid a hooker to spank the monkey to death. Best $40 I've spent this year.
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Last week in Vegas, I paid a hooker to spank the monkey to death. Best $40 I've spent this year.
Yeah I knew that's what you meant because you sure don't wanna have your face eaten by a Getbig-posting monkey...hell he may have even been running a couple of gimmicks, you never know.
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yea, i'm gonna go ahead and call bullshit
dynamometer?
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Ya can't prove otherwise and they have the numbers.
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Ya can't prove otherwise and they have the numbers.
haha youre right they have "numbers" from a device known as a "dynamometer" from the 1920's.
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haha youre right they have "numbers" from a device known as a "dynamometer" from the 1920's.
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Since you work in the realm of the unprovable, i bet one of those chimps has you runnin like a puzzy in about 10 seconds. They use their arms like legs and are far stronger.
FYI mechanical devices like that have been around forever and can at least give a decent approximation.
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Fast forward to 0:51 to see the monkey in question in his Old Navy commercial.
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Since you work in the realm of the unprovable, i bet one of those chimps has you runnin like a puzzy in about 10 seconds. They use their arms like legs and are far stronger.
FYI mechanical devices like that have been around forever and can at least give a decent approximation.
Hey fatass, i'm calling bullshit on the chimp pulling 900 lbs with one arm, not me squaring up with it and dueling ::).
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Hey fatass, i'm calling bullshit on the chimp pulling 900 lbs with one arm, not me squaring up with it and dueling ::).
Hey idiot, the numbers were derived by legit technology that's been around forever. Don't have to be exact to prove the point lol all you have is dopey speculation that you can't back up.
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simple lesson here,
don't mess with a woman's chimpanzee, or it will eat your fuckin face.
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The 911 audio was chilling..."he's eating her, he's eating her..."
something tells me thats not the first time the chimp has 'eaten her'... :-X
couldn't this lady get a MAN? ???
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Hey idiot, the numbers were derived by legit technology that's been around forever. Don't have to be exact to prove the point lol all you have is dopey speculation that you can't back up.
so youre conceding the notion that said chimp could pull 900 lbs with 1 arm?
Because i highly doubt it. It used a mchine that simply gives a rough estimate. Pulling a string on a pressure measurer to a point where it's "simialr" to pulling so and so weight. It's like me repping so and so on a bench than coming up with a 1 rep max based on my test. we all know those 1 rep max charts are bullshit.
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so youre conceding the notion that said chimp could pull 900 lbs with 1 arm?
Because i highly doubt it. It used a mchine that simply gives a rough estimate. Pulling a string on a pressure measurer to a point where it's "simialr" to pulling so and so weight. It's like me repping so and so on a bench than coming up with a 1 rep max based on my test. we all know those 1 rep max charts are bullshit.
Didnt you see that vid on the first page of the 180lb Orangatang beating the champion sumo wrestler in a tug of war?
THose beasts are strong as hell.
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Don't worry the good Dr. will be back.he's just attending the funeral of a dear friend.
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In tests at the Bronx Zoo in 1924, a dynamometer — a scale that measures the mechanical force of a pull on a spring — was erected in the monkey house. A 165-pound male chimpanzee named "Boma" registered a pull of 847 pounds, using only his right hand ). A 165-pound man, by comparison, could manage a one-handed pull of about 210 pounds. Even more frightening, a female chimp, weighing a mere 135 pounds and going by the name of Suzette, checked in with a one-handed pull of 1,260 pounds. (She was in a fit of passion at the time; one shudders to think what her boyfriend must have looked like next morning.)
In dead lifts, chimps have been known to manage weights of 600 pounds without even breaking into a sweat. A male gorilla could probably heft an 1,800-pound weight and not think twice about it.
Any good strongman would win that monkey
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Hey fatass, i'm calling bullshit on the chimp pulling 900 lbs with one arm, not me squaring up with it and dueling ::).
might wanna pick up the guiness book of records then... they tested briefly of course a male young gorilla in the dead lift, he lifted 800 to the point he pretty much threw it. There was picks as well last time i saw it. Gorillas are documented ripping 10" or thicker bamboo trees clean out of ground or ripping them in half.. you have no idea on bamboo tensil strength do you?
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a tragedy but no way in hell would i allow a 200lb wild animal in my house or near me. especially an animal which could easily over power me
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Dr Chimps owning the shit out of an off-season Kyomu 8)
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I still don't buy the story of a primate with a postgrad degree going berserk.
It's a case of mistaken identity, put your lynching ropes away.
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that chimp was obese as fuck
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Getbig related because this might have been Dr. Chimps; Sharma's had him melting all over the board lately and I'm still waiting to hear back from the PM I sent him earlier to check on him... :'(
Animal experts are baffled by chimp attack
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jvlkKth37Fp__GL6KYdl2b1s6dBgD96DNV5G0
STAMFORD, Conn. (AP) — Travis the chimpanzee, a veteran of TV commercials, was the constant companion of a lonely Connecticut widow who fed him steak, lobster and ice cream. He could eat at the table, drink wine from a stemmed glass, use the toilet, and dress and bathe himself.
He brushed his teeth with a Water Pik, logged on to a computer to look at photos post on Getbig and channel-surfed television with the remote control.
But on Monday, the wild animal in him came out with a vengeance.
The 200-pound animal viciously mauled a friend of his owner before being shot to death by police.
Investigators are trying to figure out why — whether it was a bout of Lyme disease, a reaction to drugs, or a case of instinct taking over.
"It's hard to say what exactly precipitated this behavior," said Colleen McCann, a primatologist at the Bronx Zoo. "At the end of the day, they are not human and you can't always predict their behavior and how they or any other wild animal will respond when they feel threatened."
Travis attacked 55-year-old Charla Nash as Sandra Herold frantically stabbed her beloved pet with a butcher knife and pounded him with a shovel. Nash was in critical condition Tuesday with "life-changing, if not life-threatening," injuries to her face and hands, Mayor Dannel Malloy said.
Police said they are looking into the possibility of criminal charges. A pet owner can be held criminally responsible if he or she knew or should have known that an animal was a danger to others.
In recordings of calls to 911 dispatchers released Tuesday, Travis' grunts can be heard as a frantic Herold cries that her pet is "eating" Nash and must be killed. The attack lasted about 12 minutes.
"The chimp killed my friend!" says a sobbing Herold, who was hiding in her vehicle. "Send the police with a gun. With a gun!"
The dispatcher later asks, "Who's killing your friend?"
"My chimpanzee!" she cries. "He ripped her apart! Shoot him, shoot him!"
After police arrive, one officer radios back: "There's a man down. He doesn't look good," he says, referring to Nash. "We've got to get this guy out of here. He's got no face."
Herold told New York-based WNYW-TV in an interview that aired Tuesday night that she has agonized over Nash's injuries and that Travis' death is "something that I can't hardly live with because he went in his room and died, and I wasn't with him. I couldn't get back in the house."
Police said that Travis was agitated earlier Monday and that Herold had given him the anti-anxiety drug Xanax in some tea. Police said the drug had not been prescribed for the 14-year-old chimp.
In humans, Xanax can cause memory loss, lack of coordination, reduced sex drive and other side effects. It can also lead to aggression in people who were unstable to begin with, said Dr. Emil Coccaro, chief of psychiatry at the University of Chicago Medical Center.
"Xanax could have made him worse," if human studies are any indication, Coccaro said.
Stephen Rene Tello, executive director of Primarily Primates, a sanctuary for chimps in Texas, said it is difficult to say what effect Xanax would have on a chimp, but he noted that chimps and humans have similar physiology.
Investigators said they were also told that Travis had Lyme disease, a tick-borne illness with flu-like symptoms that can lead to arthritis and meningitis in humans.
"Maybe from the medications he was out of sorts," Stamford police Capt. Richard Conklin said.
Herold could not be reached for comment. A woman answering the door at Herold's home, where drops of blood stained the walkway, would not speak to reporters Tuesday. Conklin said Herold was "traumatized by this very, very brutal attack."
Don Mecca, a family friend from Colchester, N.Y., said Herold, whose daughter died several years ago in a car accident, fed the chimp steak, lobster, ice cream and Italian food.
Herold built the chimpanzee a large cage in her home. She knew chimps could be dangerous but found it hard to part with Travis, Mecca said.
McCann of the Bronx Zoo said chimpanzees are unpredictable and dangerous even after living among humans for years.
"I don't know the effects of Lyme disease on chimpanzees, but I will say that it's deceiving to think that if any animal is, quote-unquote, well-behaved around humans that means there is no risk involved to humans for potential outbursts of behavior," she said. "They are unpredictable, and in instances like this you cannot control that behavior or prevent it from happening if it is in a private home."
Connecticut law requires anyone who owns a primate heavier than 50 pounds to obtain a state permit. But Herold was exempted from the law.
"Given that the family in Stamford owned Travis before this law was put on the books, and the fact that over the years the animal did not appear to present a public safety risk, their possession of the chimpanzee was allowed to continue," said Dennis Schain, spokesman for the state Department of Environmental Protection.
When he was younger, Travis starred in TV commercials for Old Navy and Coca-Cola, made an appearance on the "Maury Povich Show" and took part in a television pilot, according to a 2003 story in The Advocate newspaper of Stamford.
"He's been raised almost like a child by this family," Conklin said. "He rides in a car every day. He opens doors. He's a very unique animal in that aspect. We have no indication of what provoked this behavior at all."
PIP Dr. Chimps.... He was a good dude.
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In tests at the Bronx Zoo in 1924, a dynamometer — a scale that measures the mechanical force of a pull on a spring — was erected in the monkey house. A 165-pound male chimpanzee named "Boma" registered a pull of 847 pounds, using only his right hand ). A 165-pound man, by comparison, could manage a one-handed pull of about 210 pounds. Even more frightening, a female chimp, weighing a mere 135 pounds and going by the name of Suzette, checked in with a one-handed pull of 1,260 pounds. (She was in a fit of passion at the time; one shudders to think what her boyfriend must have looked like next morning.)
In dead lifts, chimps have been known to manage weights of 600 pounds without even breaking into a sweat. A male gorilla could probably heft an 1,800-pound weight and not think twice about it.
the more important question: How the hell do you get a chimp to deadlift ???
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How the hell do you get a chimp to deadlift ???
Since they can learn how to log on a pc and open car doors, DLs would seem easy. Probably have to show one a number of times and get it to mimic same.
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Here is the chilling 911 tape
http://www.theync.com/media.php?name=8177-brutal-call
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Since they can learn how to log on a pc and open car doors, DLs would seem easy. Probably have to show one a number of times and get it to mimic same.
yes but it seems the chimp wouldn't care about the lift...it's not like he's gonna celebrate if he gets 500lbs for 3-4 reps
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yes but it seems the chimp wouldn't care about the lift...it's not like he's gonna celebrate if he gets 500lbs for 3-4 reps
I think they like copying, especially if encouraged. Haven't been able to ask. :D
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According to the NY Post today she slept in the same bed with that chimp. She also drank wine and showered with the animal. I'm not making this up.
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might wanna pick up the guiness book of records then... they tested briefly of course a male young gorilla in the dead lift, he lifted 800 to the point he pretty much threw it. There was picks as well last time i saw it. Gorillas are documented ripping 10" or thicker bamboo trees clean out of ground or ripping them in half.. you have no idea on bamboo tensil strength do you?
dipshit...we're talking about a 160 chimp pulling 900 plbs. Not some rwandan silver back. read a little
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Didnt you see that vid on the first page of the 180lb Orangatang beating the champion sumo wrestler in a tug of war?
THose beasts are strong as hell.
you can't be serious....that fat fuck of a sumo was 300 lbs and had 14 inch arms of flab.
gtfo.
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The Stamford Police Department have given an artist's impression of the attacker and are asking for witnesses to come forward. :(
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3490/3293559061_5de7e5a812.jpg?v=0)
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Anybody heard from Dr. Chimps? ???
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Would Bob Sly have stopped this vicious attack had this American hero not been gunned down before his time?
(http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2009/01/RobertSylvesterAP_450x350.jpg)