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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: bigkubby on February 25, 2009, 05:46:01 PM
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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO M!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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;)
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BETTER ABS THAN MUNZER OR NASSER ;D
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alllllll day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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He was good, but in the 90's there were tons who were better.
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booooooooooooooooooooomm mmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALL DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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Booooooooooooooooooooooo oooooommmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL
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I trained Achim in 95 when he beat Coleman and Milos
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HE WAS EFFIN RIPPED TO THE BONE
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brutal 16" arms ::) ::) ::)
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He look good but in that era he is not top tier at all.
It is about muscularity without the total loss of aesthetics. This is why I would honestly have to say that nothing is as great as this in terms of mass and symmetry, proportion and conditioning.
And I think Nasser has the best abs. Certainly no mass monster can touch his midsection that is just perfection on competition day.
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should they also lie about their weight? guy is maybe 210
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nasser is a man-frenching underwear salesman. :D
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great thread
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This is why I would honestly have to say that nothing is as great as this in terms of oil and synthol, WD-40 and lubricant.
fixed. :P
ps Ronnie is better.
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Obviously you don't understand my point. I am talking about the combination of mass, symmetry, proportion and aesthetic flow.
Ronnie had stunning mass but he struggled to sculpt it in a way like peak Nasser. Ronnie had a terrible midsection, his calves were a complete joke, he had droopy pecs (even without the disgusting gyno) Again, I respect Ronnie but he did not have anything approaching Nasser's midsection, calves, taper, symmetry . He had mind boggling mass but it cost him his aesthetics.
In the end this was Jason's downfall too.
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I bet everytime you talk or think about Nasser you've got a "point"....
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I trained Achim in 95 when he beat Coleman and Milos
::)
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should they also lie about their weight? guy is maybe 210
seeing that pic above of achim he's lean and good condition but he was considered a mass guy then but he does not at least there looks like he weighs over 220 or so.he had great legs very big and vascular.
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I trained Achim in 95 when he beat Coleman and Milos
I leap off buildings in my spare time.
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Obviously you don't understand my point. I am talking about the combination of mass, symmetry, proportion and aesthetic flow.
Ronnie had stunning mass but he struggled to sculpt it in a way like peak Nasser. Ronnie had a terrible midsection, his calves were a complete joke, he had droopy pecs (even without the disgusting gyno) Again, I respect Ronnie but he did not have anything approaching Nasser's midsection, calves, taper, symmetry . He had mind boggling mass but it cost him his aesthetics.
In the end this was Jason's downfall too.
1. Bob Paris
2. Steve Reeves
3. Frank Zane
4. Labrada
5. Wheeler
6. Charles Clairmonte
7. Milos
8. deMey
9. Samir
10. Makkawy
11. Shawn Ray
12. Cormier
13. Thierry Pastel
14. Mendenhall
15. Haney
16. Nubret
17. Padilla
18. Sergio
19. Sonny Schmidt
20. Melvin Anthony
Flex magazines top 20 most aesthetic bodybuilders yet NO Nasser I wonder why ;)
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:)
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Achim was very mediocre for the 90s.
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:)
Best Arab bodybuilder of all time
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1. Bob Paris
2. Steve Reeves
3. Frank Zane
4. Labrada
5. Wheeler
6. Charles Clairmonte
7. Milos
8. deMey
9. Samir
10. Makkawy
11. Shawn Ray
12. Cormier
13. Thierry Pastel
14. Mendenhall
15. Haney
16. Nubret
17. Padilla
18. Sergio
19. Sonny Schmidt
20. Melvin Anthony
Flex magazines top 20 most aesthetic bodybuilders yet NO Nasser I wonder why ;)
Agree with #1. If I could have the physique of any bber it would be Paris. But I would still do girls.
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Agree with #1. If I could have the physique of any bber it would be Paris. But I would still do girls.
Can you believe he never won a single pro show?
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Can you believe he never won a single pro show?
:o I didn't know that.
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1. Bob Paris
2. Steve Reeves
3. Frank Zane
4. Labrada
5. Wheeler
6. Charles Clairmonte
7. Milos
8. deMey
9. Samir
10. Makkawy
11. Shawn Ray
12. Cormier
13. Thierry Pastel
14. Mendenhall
15. Haney
16. Nubret
17. Padilla
18. Sergio
19. Sonny Schmidt
20. Melvin Anthony
Flex magazines top 20 most aesthetic bodybuilders yet NO Nasser I wonder why ;)
Again, like your twin, hulkster, you misunderstand the point. I did not say that Nasser is most aesthetic of all time; I said most aesthetic of the mass monsters.
Nasser is one of the hugest men to ever live. Guys like Ronnie had stunning mass but he bad pecs that looked droopy even when gyno was fixed, terrible abs , no calves. Yates, your fantasy man, had joke arms, disgusting gut but these guys still won due to their mass (and some fixed judging decisions). Nasser had the same kind of mass but sculpted it much more aesthetically.
Only maybe one or two of those guys on that list would be considered a mass monster.
Read the quote properly then you will understand the point. The key word is combination. There are those who got better aesthetics but they lack Nasser's extreme mass. Likewise, anyone bigger (hardly any are) they lack Nasser's aesthetics. If you fail to even understand a point then there is little point in conversing.
Posted by: Sharma
Obviously you don't understand my point. I am talking about the combination of mass, symmetry, proportion and aesthetic flow.
Ronnie had stunning mass but he struggled to sculpt it in a way like peak Nasser. Ronnie had a terrible midsection, his calves were a complete joke, he had droopy pecs (even without the disgusting gyno) Again, I respect Ronnie but he did not have anything approaching Nasser's midsection, calves, taper, symmetry . He had mind boggling mass but it cost him his aesthetics.
In the end this was Jason's downfall too.
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booooooooooooooooooooooo oooommmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 hahahaha
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and ughhhhh what a joke
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he got punked by flex lmao
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Again, like your twin, hulkster, you misunderstand the point. I did not say that Nasser is most aesthetic of all time; I said most aesthetic of the mass monsters.
No, that honor goes to Paul Dillett
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i would agree with you on thta one my friend i think nasser was way overrated shawn used to smash him nasser has a gut :'( sorry sharma
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Again, like your twin, hulkster, you misunderstand the point. I did not say that Nasser is most aesthetic of all time; I said most aesthetic of the mass monsters.
Nasser is one of the hugest men to ever live. Guys like Ronnie had stunning mass but he bad pecs that looked droopy even when gyno was fixed, terrible abs , no calves. Yates, your fantasy man, had joke arms, disgusting gut but these guys still won due to their mass (and some fixed judging decisions). Nasser had the same kind of mass but sculpted it much more aesthetically.
Only maybe one or two of those guys on that list would be considered a mass monster.
Read the quote properly then you will understand the point. The key word is combination. There are those who got better aesthetics but they lack Nasser's extreme mass. Likewise, anyone bigger (hardly any are) they lack Nasser's aesthetics. If you fail to even understand a point then there is little point in conversing.
You keep using the word aesthetic YOU are the only one using it to describe Nasser no one attributes his physique as being aesthetic even for a mass monster , he's always considered a mass monster first and foremost , he's aesthetic for a ' mass monster ' ::) that's like saying ' she's hot for a fat chick '
As far as aesthetics & symmetry go Nasser is far from perfect his structure isn't spectacular and while his had good proportions his balance wasn't that great , he had short legs coupled with a longish torso , he had no forearms what so ever especially not proportionate ones in relation to his biceps/triceps even worse than Coleman and his glaring flaw was his pathetic back . you can claim he was more ' aesthetic ' than Yates but that means what? he was also incomplete as well which is why he never won and that's not mentioning his conditioning
Nasser was a very good bodybuilder from the front , good from the sides and pathetic from the back , you and your fan-boys built him up to be something he's not and that one of the Greatest , you can harp on him beating Dorian in 1997 , hell lets say that he did what does that mean? he beat Dorian at his all-times worse LMFAO he would be left for dead by Dorian at his best oh wait he was in 1995 ;)
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booooooooooooooooooooooooooommmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 hahahaha
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and ughhhhh what a joke
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he got punked by flex lmao
Flex left him for dead
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No, that honor goes to Paul Dillett
Great point and true Dillett had the lines and the size and the balance & proportion
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Again you guys miss the point totally. Nasser had a good 50lbs on Kenny when they competed. Nasser was a true mass monster.
Believe me, Paul was not as aesthetic as Nasser. He was an amazing bodybuilder but he was clunky and clumsy looking, he could not pose properly and rarely was properly conditioned.
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Again you guys miss the point totally. Nasser had a good 50lbs on Kenny when they competed. Nasser was a true mass monster.
Believe me, Paul was not as aesthetic as Nasser. He was an amazing bodybuilder but he was clunky and clumsy looking, he could not pose properly and rarely was properly conditioned.
That's your retort " Believe me " ? and what the fuck is ' clunky and clumsy looking ' ? Nasser couldn't pose properly either and same with Nasser who's conditioning was hit or miss , ironically they both had pathetic backs , but Dillet is by far more aesthetic and why?
Better natural structure , wider clavicles , narrow waist & hips , better muscular balance & proportion throughout his physique , better upper & lower balance
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It's an opinion.
I said believe me because I have seen all these guys in person and some of your judgements - like Dillet having better balance between upper and lower - just show me that you are only arguing because Nasser upsets you and you are incapable of praising him.
Dillet had an awkward and strange physique that he had trouble posing and conditioning properly. He had far more structural flaws than Nasser and nothing like Nasser's balance and symmetry. That's why he never came near Nasser at any show.
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It's an opinion.
I said believe me because I have seen all these guys in person and some of your judgements - like Dillet having better balance between upper and lower - just show me that you are only arguing because Nasser upsets you and you are incapable of praising him.
Dillet had an awkward and strange physique that he had trouble posing and conditioning properly. He had far more structural flaws than Nasser and nothing like Nasser's balance and symmetry. That's why he never came near Nasser at any show.
NOSENSE pure & simple , Nasser doesn't upset me and I am capable of praising him , I made a thread and posted some very good pics of him and said on many occasions he's outstanding ( from the front ) so your claim to the contrary is flat out false
and again you make base claims and offer up NO evidence of them what so ever ::)
Dillet had an awkward and strange physique that he had trouble posing and conditioning properly. He had far more structural flaws than Nasser and nothing like Nasser's balance and symmetry. That's why he never came near Nasser at any show.
because you say so LMFAO and Dillett never came close to Nasser at any show because of racist judges ;) they didn't want a non-American winning ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
owned
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Here's the evidence. I already post it. Dillet never have balance between upper body and lower body like this. He never have such perfect symmetry, balance and proportion. This is the Apollonian ideal. Again, no mass monster weighing as much as this ever came close to such aesthetic beauty as this.
Even GH15 and Doggcrapp agree and they know more about bodybuilding than you ever will Mr geek with 25 thousand posts ;D
OWNED
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Here's the evidence. I already post it. Dillet never have balance between upper body and lower body like this. He never have such perfect symmetry, balance and proportion. This is the Apollonian ideal. Again, no mass monster weighing as much as this ever came close to such aesthetic beauty as this.
Even GH15 and Doggcrapp agree and they know more about bodybuilding than you ever will Mr geek with 25 thousand posts ;D
OWNED
So what's your retort? a picture with the same blanket statment , ' Dillett never have ( sic ) balance between upper body and lower body like this? ' this comment proves you know absolutely NOTHING about physique assessment . upper & lower body balance includes proportion between the muscle groups as well as muscle length , Nasser doesn't stack up to Dillett in this department due to the fact he has SHORT LEGS and a LOG TORSO , couple that with Dillett having naturally narrower waist & hips than Nasser and wider clavicles and better forearm proportion in relation to the biceps & triceps and anything you type to the contrary exposes your ignorance
And you quote GH15 as some sort of proof of your claim lmfao please show me SPECIFICALLY where he claims Nasser has better balance & proportion and symmetry & aesthetics than Dillett and good luck ( I don't expect you to find this quote either ;) ) and Gh15 is the same MORON who talked about aliens and he also claimed to have firsthand knowledge that Steve Reeves was on d-bols years before they were ever invented LMFAO so much for him as an authority and Doggcrapp? again if you can provide the same specific quote from him comparing Dillett & Nasser , I'll entertain it until then more filler from you
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all nasser displayed was how watery he was from the back dorian tore him up in all the back poses and yes considering paul had much longer legs thats a tough one to fill in all in all nasser = over rated OWNED
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Nasser is owned again.
Sharma, please give it a rest.
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Here's the evidence. I already post it. Dillet never have balance between upper body and lower body like this. He never have such perfect symmetry, balance and proportion. This is the Apollonian ideal. Again, no mass monster weighing as much as this ever came close to such aesthetic beauty as this.
Even GH15 and Doggcrapp agree and they know more about bodybuilding than you ever will Mr geek with 25 thousand posts ;D
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Great post and totally spot on as usual. It seems that most people can't understand that for one of the biggest ever guys Nasser kept that size looking immaculate. You again show that you're one of the only people capable of actually understanding bodybuilding. Poor ND owned yet again by all and sundry.
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Nasser looking amazing from the back here. Broad lats, shredded gluteals and superb calf development.
(http://f32.rimg.info/1755725_d44c37f542a0f24fd74009ef5bf413d5_1.jpg)
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This gay Nasser nuthugging is sad.
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:)
Best 'stash in BB history.
The beef
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NASSER LOOKED NOTHING BETTER THAN A PAIR OF MEAT CURTAINS LOL I LOVE HOW THIS THREAD STARTED OUT AS AN IDEAL PHYSIQUE THREAD AND ENDS OVER NASSER DEBATES , SOME PEOPLE JUST NEED TO GET OFF HIS SACK ::)
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Sharma, I find it interesting that you say that Dillet looked "clumsy and clunkey looking". For the record a lot of people describe Nasser the same way.
Yes, yes, yes, "believe you", that is not the case
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Most people agree that Nasser was one of the best, but you seem to have lost all objectivity in this matter. Which only works counter to most of your arguments.
Let me prove that point.
Sharma, who had the better back Nasser or Coleman? Also at their peak who had the better conditioning Nasser or Yates?
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no athletic contract, no luxury ride, no sponsorship, no mtv cribs...just a broke b###h with a can of lube! why?
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Bada Bing Bada Boom! ;D
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Bada Bing Bada Boom! ;D
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>:(
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an ideal physique would be one that can be maintained without steroids. steves reeves comes close.
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an ideal physique would be one that can be maintained without steroids. steves reeves comes close.
Great post !
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Hello everyone, I would just like to say that I so agree with comments that the older bodybuilders were so much better to look at.
A lot of people might not know this but Jimmy Saville used to be the president of NABBA during the 60's and early 70's. I met him at the Mr Universe 1967 and he has been my friend ever since. He now lives near me in his cottage in the Highlands of Scotland.
I have helped sponser many young bodybuilders over the years, many of whom were introduced through Jimmy. We got the young men plenty of exposure in the magazines I used to photograph for in my studio up here in the highlands of Scotland. There are hardly any nice young ment to photograph or sponser nowadays. Very sad :'(
Now then Now then now then......
So you live in Glen Coe - is Jimmy as strange as mr theroux says?
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Pure Gold :D
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Actually I live across the Moray Firth in North Kessock (thats the Black Isle), but near enough.
I don't really find Jimmy strange at all. But I suppose weirdness is all in the eye of the beholder ;)
Well he came across as a right oddball , still as you say....
Bye the way, give my regards to the Muir Of Ord :D
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Sharma I dont remember saying these quotes you keep attributing me to saying about Nasser.....
Dillett was about as impressive as a bodybuilder as Ive ever seen in my life (up there with Ronnie)
I think the 2 things I said on this board about Nasser over the years is "awesome bodybuilder from the front" but Ive always felt Yates was so overpowering from the rear that he overshadowed any edge Nasser had on him from the front and thats why he took those shows.
Personally I was 100x more impressed with Dillett than Nasser. Dillett bent the laws of limits (arm size to wrist size etc)....and what he could of done with proper eating, hard training etc and drive would probably be something past Ronnie (but he didnt have it in him)
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Sharma I dont remember saying these quotes you keep attributing me to saying about Nasser.....
Dillett was about as impressive as a bodybuilder as Ive ever seen in my life (up there with Ronnie)
I think the 2 things I said on this board about Nasser over the years is "awesome bodybuilder from the front" but Ive always felt Yates was so overpowering from the rear that he overshadowed any edge Nasser had on him from the front and thats why he took those shows.
Personally I was 100x more impressed with Dillett than Nasser. Dillett bent the laws of limits (arm size to wrist size etc)....and what he could of done with proper eating, hard training etc and drive would probably be something past Ronnie (but he didnt have it in him)
What about Dillet's back... there's nothing he could've done with that. It was like a mediocre middleweight's back. That's a huge flaw to have.
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Paul does not even compare to Nasser on any level.
This is why Paul never touch Nasser in any competition.
Look at Nasser's patent superiority and clear aesthetic advantage.
His fantastic midsection. His vastly superior quad separation. Nasser is perfection whilst Paul is a hotpotch of UNBALANCED parts. Nasser clearly has the better detail, separation, proportion , chest development. Paul simply does not compare and anyone who says that paul with his lack of balance, separation and vastly inferior (nonexistant actually) symmetry is more aesthetic just simply don't understand bodybuidling.
End of the story.
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What about Dillet's back... there's nothing he could've done with that. It was like a mediocre middleweight's back. That's a huge flaw to have.
Actually his back was quite wide, look at it from the front, or when he spread his arms out...he had a wingspan!!! But he couldn't do a rear lat spread. On the 1993 Mr. O video, it was like one side would spread, but the other wouldn't, or that nothing would happen. I attribute this to either not knowing how to do it, or to his shoulder injuries.
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Here's the evidence. I already post it. Dillet never have balance between upper body and lower body like this. He never have such perfect symmetry, balance and proportion. This is the Apollonian ideal. Again, no mass monster weighing as much as this ever came close to such aesthetic beauty as this.
Even GH15 and Doggcrapp agree and they know more about bodybuilding than you ever will Mr geek with 25 thousand posts ;D
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Sharma I dont remember saying these quotes you keep attributing me to saying about Nasser.....
Dillett was about as impressive as a bodybuilder as Ive ever seen in my life (up there with Ronnie)
I think the 2 things I said on this board about Nasser over the years is "awesome bodybuilder from the front" but Ive always felt Yates was so overpowering from the rear that he overshadowed any edge Nasser had on him from the front and thats why he took those shows.
OWNED
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Pure Gold :D
He never fixed it for me to meet Iron Maiden >:(
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Where is the "OWNED" here? Yates was never more aesthetic than Nasser, not ever.
Dante has desperately tried to get in with Nasser and be his buddy. He knows Nasser's ex training partner, Bob, and always was trying to be in Nasser's inner circle. Dante has said many times that Nasser is one of the greatest of all time. That he saw him guest post at 318 and was blown away by him. He spend years desperately sucking up to Nasser and trying to get an audience. His revisionism is clearly because Nasser has rejected his numerous advances.
Again, anyone who put Dillet above Nasser in any show doesn't understand bodybuilding or how a show is judged. I mean just look the physiques.
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What about Dillet's back... there's nothing he could've done with that. It was like a mediocre middleweight's back. That's a huge flaw to have.
Because of his extreme shoulder problems (injuries from playing football in the CFL and training) I dont think Paul ever was able to even train his back correctly.....you got to remember something....I dont think there ever has been a pro that developed such extreme muscle mass with such piss poor training than Dillett. I really believe that (from what Ive heard from fellow pro's and people who knew him during all those years at golds) that 95% of the guys who read Getbig today in the Gossip and Opinions forum train harder than Dillett did all those years. Four plates each side of the leg press for sets? 2 plates on each side of the bench press for sets? And I heard this 4 ways around the block from multiple sources....
Get that shoulder fixed like he should of (like Strydom did) years back....and put Ronnie Colemans fortitude and bulldog mentality to training in that guy, with the spartan like food intake of Cutler and Dillett would of been (IMO) the greatest bodybuilder ever....30 more pounds of muscle mass than he was.
Sometimes when things come very easy for a person (wealth, looks, whatever...or in this case muscle mass) people stop trying very hard.
I respect Nasser and his accomplishments....I think some people are letting their freindships blind them a little bit on this board though in the big picture. I believe Yates won most of those shows fair in square....and shouldnt of won one year....just like i think Cutler should of won the Olympia in 2001.
In my mind I think the clear choice is 1999 ASC Ronnie and 2003-2004 Ronnie is far and away (and its not even close) the best, biggest, most complete, most dominant bodybuilder ever to step onto a pro stage....and I find it weird to think anyone could disagree with that
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Nasser looking amazing from the back here. Broad lats, shredded gluteals and superb calf development.
(http://f32.rimg.info/1755725_d44c37f542a0f24fd74009ef5bf413d5_1.jpg)
Absolutely. Ignorant people make claims about Nasser's back but he has remarkably wide lats. Most complete mass monster of all time.
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Where is the "OWNED" here?
Even GH15 and Doggcrapp agree...
Sharma I dont remember saying these quotes you keep attributing me to saying about Nasser.....
Epic supporting the soiled underwear seller with lies.
OWNED
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End thread.
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Where is the "OWNED" here? Yates was never more aesthetic than Nasser, not ever.
Dante has desperately tried to get in with Nasser and be his buddy. He knows Nasser's ex training partner, Bob, and always was trying to be in Nasser's inner circle. Dante has said many times that Nasser is one of the greatest of all time. That he saw him guest post at 318 and was blown away by him. He spend years desperately sucking up to Nasser and trying to get an audience. His revisionism is clearly because Nasser has rejected his numerous advances.
Again, anyone who put Dillet above Nasser in any show doesn't understand bodybuilding or how a show is judged. I mean just look the physiques.
Sharma Im sorry that you are taking what Im saying as a putdown to Nasser....... its not. I dont pick my friends on whether they are pro bodybuilders or not.....I pick my friends wisely and most of them have nothing to do with this sport because I put loyalty, morals, values, and "being a blood brother" ahead of a guy who asks me "hey do you think this shirt makes me look small?"
If Nasser is your friend because you look to him as "Nasser IFBB pro" instead of "my good friend Nasser who is loyal to me" then I kind of feel bad for you.
Regardless I do respect Nassers accomplishments and he was an awesome IFBB pro
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Nasser looking amazing from the back here. Broad lats, shredded gluteals and superb calf development.
(http://f32.rimg.info/1755725_d44c37f542a0f24fd74009ef5bf413d5_1.jpg)
his back only looks good cause he's standing by himself.
compared to a real back, it sucks:
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Actually his back was quite wide, look at it from the front, or when he spread his arms out...he had a wingspan!!! But he couldn't do a rear lat spread. On the 1993 Mr. O video, it was like one side would spread, but the other wouldn't, or that nothing would happen. I attribute this to either not knowing how to do it, or to his shoulder injuries.
Because of his extreme shoulder problems (injuries from playing football in the CFL and training) I dont think Paul ever was able to even train his back correctly.....
Get that shoulder fixed like he should of (like Strydom did) years back....
I guess it's possible that a shoulder injury prevented him from training it much at all. I do think it was genetically weak too. Good comparison to Strydom, but Strydom never improved the back either no matter the fix you mention. It looked scandalously bad in his comeback.
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nassers arms were too small for his body
he outweighed flex by 50lb yet flexs arms were bigger
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nassers arms were too small for his body
he outweighed flex by 50lb yet flexs arms were bigger
Flex's arms were too big for his torso. Being arm dominant can look real cool though (see Priest for another example, or Heath).
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yea and look at how much better dillets waist looks side by side compared to nassers!!! he makes nasser look like a fridge and hes about a foot taller lol
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nassers arms were too small for his body
he outweighed flex by 50lb yet flexs arms were bigger
flex's arms were also bigger than dorian's.
flex had huge arms, even pre synthol
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nassers arms were too small for his body
he outweighed flex by 50lb yet flexs arms were bigger
Flex's arms were too big for his torso. Being arm dominant can look real cool though (see Priest for another example, or Heath).
This is a very perceptive and good answer here by van B. Yes, big arms look great - hey, maybe why many of us start lifting for. In a serious IFBB show things aren't meant to dominate. It is about building a balanced and proportionate physique. In the end Heath's overpowering arms and narrowness may hurt him. After all, balance and proportion are serious judging criteria.
Nasser's arms are perfect for his overall physique presentation. Look at this pose: everything is perfect, nothing lags, everything is developed to its potential but, crucially, within the overall aesthetic. This is world class bodybuilding right here. The arms are perfectly balanced with the rest of the stunning physique.
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in 90% of nassers pic his delts are too big for his arms
his tris... are lacking
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in 90% of nassers pic his delts are too big for his arms
his tris... are lacking
I don't agree with you at all. In his prime Nasser had one of the most complete physiques ever seen in terms of mass, symmetry, balance, proportion.
However, as you determined to find fault. One can easily say that Coleman's calves are too small for his body and his midsection too disgusting for his torso. Or "Backzilla's" back actually dominated his physique and his arms were far too small and quads too narrow.
Nasser has marvellous delts that , coupled with his legendary Calves and tight waist for a mass monster, give him an astonishing x-frame.
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He never fixed it for me to meet Iron Maiden >:(
Is this why you call yourself Saxon?
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nassers arms were too small for his body
he outweighed flex by 50lb yet flexs arms were bigger
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I don't agree with you at all. In his prime Nasser had one of the most complete physiques ever seen in terms of mass, symmetry, balance, proportion.
However, as you determined to find fault. One can easily say that Coleman's calves are too small for his body and his midsection too disgusting for his torso. Or "Backzilla's" back actually dominated his physique and his arms were far too small and quads too narrow.
Nasser has marvellous delts that , coupled with his legendary Calves and tight waist for a mass monster, give him an astonishing x-frame.
of course Coleman's calves are lacking... but unfortunately arms outweighs calves in the Bodybuilding requisite hierarchy and in like general .not may people really give a Sh** about calves....
sure you say heaths arms are too big...or flex's arms are too big... but arm dominance looks way better than torso dominance.... Coleman's arms were right for his torso... and victors too... however....
huge delts with lagging arms isn't a good look ... ala... Nasser and Markus rhul
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yes Nasser's arms are really "lagging". ::)
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BETTER ABS THAN MUNZER OR NASSER ;D
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=255604.0;attach=297079;image)
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SHARMA even the post above by
proves my point u will never see someone use a vid cap screen shoot of phil heath to prove he had big arms or flx.. becausse their arms looked good in 99% of pics flexed unflexed and from any angles.. the fact that one has to look for a particular pic to prove nasser had good arms ..proves my point
better arm dominance than torso dominance another example king kamali :-\
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Nasser was a very good bodybuilder from the front , good from the sides and pathetic from the back , you and your fan-boys built him up to be something he's not and that one of the Greatest , you can harp on him beating Dorian in 1997 , hell lets say that he did what does that mean? he beat Dorian at his all-times worse LMFAO he would be left for dead by Dorian at his best oh wait he was in 1995 ;)
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delts chest quads width
strong points for nasser
arms weak point especially with those huge delts
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I think the 2 things I said on this board about Nasser over the years is "awesome bodybuilder from the front" but Ive always felt Yates was so overpowering from the rear that he overshadowed any edge Nasser had on him from the front and thats why he took those shows.
You also supported the fact that the lumps in his rear delts later in his career were in fact due to scar tissue and not synthol as the simpletons here believe
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delts chest quads width
strong points for nasser
arms weak point especially with those huge delts
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shawn is pwning in that side tri pic
pure quaility
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another screen cap....
like i said the fact that you have to be looking for rare screen caps to suggest nassers arms werent a weakpoint point proves my point...
you could throw up any shot to prove he had big delts
but when it comes to arms you have to go looking for vidcaps
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Nasser owning Ronnie and Flex. :o
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I don't see these arms as "weak"
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for those delts
they are..
his rear delt sticks out farther than his tri..
his tri isnt round and sweeping like heath or flexs
relaxed the back of is arm looks straight completeley over powered by his delts
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.not may people really give a Sh** about calves....
so say all the Coleman fans. Obviously people don't care a shot about arms as Dorian won an Olympia without them, I mean he left them at home or somewhere other than on his body
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ha ha ha im not sayin i agree
but thats the way it is.. homany women will ask to see a calf shot over a arm or abs or chest or back....
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Ha ha ha thanks for proving my point , Dorian is leaving EVERYONE for dead from the side , 1/4 turns included and you pick his best showing and claim Nasser is beating him?
I'll just laugh at you , you're beyond being taken seriously when you type this
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his back only looks good cause he's standing by himself.
compared to a real back, it sucks:
So basically you admit that his back his looks good here. Yes, if fucking well does doesn't it. Look at the calves too ;)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=266410.0;attach=306893;image)
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another screen cap....
like i said the fact that you have to be looking for rare screen caps to suggest nassers arms werent a weakpoint point proves my point...
you could throw up any shot to prove he had big delts
but when it comes to arms you have to go looking for vidcaps
I used a screencap because the actual pic floating around of the front double bicep comparison of the top 3 in 98 has a scaling error with Nasser looking much bigger whereas the screencap is scaled accurately. I actually chose it to be fair. I can post tons of pics showing that Nasser had big arms.
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yes Nasser's arms are really "lagging". ::)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=266410.0;attach=306912;image)
LMAO
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ha ha ha im not sayin i agree
but thats the way it is.. homany women will ask to see a calf shot over a arm or abs or chest or back....
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LMFAO so pro bodybuilding is about what women prefer now? You do realize that 99% of women would be disgusted by the Olympia lineup right?
BTW Nasser had the best ab-thigh pose of all time
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So basically you admit that his back his looks good here. Yes, if fucking well does doesn't it. Look at the calves too ;)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=266410.0;attach=306893;image)
Looks great Al. Very impressive width.
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i did state in general....
and i used the woman example to prove a point in pro bbing arms win over calves everytime
in fact calves are waaaaaaay down on the bottom in regard to bbing requisites
im not sayin its fair.. im saying thats how it is
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LMFAO so pro bodybuilding is about what women prefer now? You do realize that 99% of women would be disgusted by the Olympia lineup right?
BTW Nasser had the best ab-thigh pose of all time
Hey, I didn't realize that IFBB pro bodybuilding is simply what women in the street like. Damn, we should drop squats now and start doing swiss ball workouts ;D
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So basically you admit that his back his looks good here. Yes, if fucking well does doesn't it. Look at the calves too ;)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=266410.0;attach=306893;image)
it looks wide. not good.
its smooth as hell. bad taper too.
don't confuse a wide, thick back with a great taper
with simply a wide back. big difference.
observe the distinction :)
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;D
also notice that great arm pic vid cap ::)
sigh posted is with his body missing ....
because like i said his torso DOMINAtes his arms
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it looks wide. not good.
its smooth as hell. bad taper too.
don't confuse a wide, thick back with a great taper
with simply a wide back. big difference.
It looks excellent. He has a wider back here than Coleman. Nasser has gone on record that he felt sometimes he didn't get the condition in his back to match his untouchable front . However, to say his back sucks is ridiculous - Coleman's calves DID suck btw. His hams, glutes and calves make him far more impressive in the rear poses than people try to imply.
EDIT: I notice that you select a closer pic in better focus of Coleman's back. That said, I have never said Nasser's back was his best bodypart, simply that it is much better than people give him credit for.
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It looks excellent. He has a wider back here than Coleman. Nasser has gone on record that he felt sometimes he didn't get the condition in his back to match his untouchable front . However, to say his back sucks is ridiculous - Coleman's calves DID suck btw. His hams, glutes and calves make him far more impressive in the rear poses than people try to imply.
EDIT: I notice that you select a closer pic in better focus of Coleman's back. That said, I have never said Nasser's back was his best bodypart, simply that it is much better than people give him credit for.
great post. Hulkster also post professionally touched up and airbrushed pictures of Ronnie all the time. He was busted doing it.
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shawn is pwning in that side tri pic
pure quaility
right on
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great post. Hulkster also post professionally touched up and airbrushed pictures of Ronnie all the time. He was busted doing it.
hahahahahaha ::)
watch and learn:
http://www.truveo.com/Ronnie-Coleman-1999-Mr-Olympia-Part-Two/id/1160132027
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nasser never got within 1000 miles of that. no matter what BS you post on an internet forum.
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great post. Hulkster also post professionally touched up and airbrushed pictures of Ronnie all the time. He was busted doing it.
And YOU were busted using this PHOTOSHOPPED Nasser pic ;)
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And YOU were busted using this PHOTOSHOPPED Nasser pic ;)
They are exactly the same ???
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They are exactly the same ???
yeah sure they are ::) try opening the pic
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hahahahahaha ::)
watch and learn:
http://www.truveo.com/Ronnie-Coleman-1999-Mr-Olympia-Part-Two/id/1160132027
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nasser never got within 1000 miles of that. no matter what BS you post on an internet forum.
Say the guy with many millions of BS post on internet forum and a 2 year argument with a geek who only like white guys and just attack darker skin pigmentation.
Seriously tho, i am a Ronnie fan, obviously not of his 'personality' and lack of intellect and I enjoy watching you humiliate Nasty Diet. But you attack Nasser with bad arguments because you hurt that some TEAM members didn't worship Ronnie when he had terrible gyno and the like.
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They are exactly the same ???
Yea, if someone did some things to it and it was not me. I just reposted it. Anyway, if there any photoshop it like nothing at all and not even necessary. The irony here is that Hulkster busted NastysissyDiety posting a totally photoshopped pic of Yates. That is how he come to be known as HypocriticDiety ;D
They both do it.
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Yea, if someone did some things to it and it was not me. I just reposted it. Anyway, if there any photoshop it like nothing at all and not even necessary. The irony here is that Hulkster busted NastysissyDiety posting a totally photoshopped pic of Yates. That is how he come to be known as HypocriticDiety ;D
They both do it.
I don't do it ;) like YOU I only posted it again you're the hypocrite because you're exposing him for something YOU yourself did many times
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You also supported the fact that the lumps in his rear delts later in his career were in fact due to scar tissue and not synthol as the simpletons here believe
You are absolutely right....that was 100% gear scar tissue buildup.
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You are absolutely right....that was 100% gear scar tissue buildup.
Same scar tissue on the biceps too ?
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check out the tris in that pose.. pretty much non existent
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Same scar tissue on the biceps too ?
LOL. I was wondering if someone was going to post that up. Those screen caps are bad, but the video is horrendous - a real 'what was he thinking!?' going on. Anybody got the link?
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You are absolutely right....that was 100% gear scar tissue buildup.
Yep.
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So basically you admit that his back his looks like shit here. Yes, if fucking well does doesn't it.
Yes, got to agree with that one.
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bottom line nasser was all oil no ifs ands or butts :'(