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Title: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: The Coach on February 28, 2009, 08:17:01 PM
Unbelievable speech, talking about totally PWNING libs 8)















Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Option D on February 28, 2009, 08:19:50 PM
Unbelievable speech, talking about totally PWNING libs 8)

















look here ted haggart...those better not be no men in suds... >:(
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Drama Queen on February 28, 2009, 08:23:04 PM
Unbelievable speech, talking about totally PWNING libs 8)
Coach ,if you are trying to beat  MattT as the dumbest guy in Getbig ,you are doing a great job.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: The Coach on February 28, 2009, 08:24:06 PM
look here ted haggart...those better not be no men in suds... >:(

Jokes old, get over it Jr..........they are youtubes from the CPAC from today.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: The Coach on February 28, 2009, 08:25:14 PM
Coach ,if you are trying to beat  MattT as the dumbest guy in Getbig ,you are doing a great job.

I understand libs don't like to hear the truth, but this is worth watching even for you!
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Option D on February 28, 2009, 08:27:55 PM
Jokes old, get over it Jr..........they are youtubes from the CPAC from today.

Coach....seriously man to man..You cant really take what rush says as gosepel...its only entertainment...Seriousl y he does it for ratings. HE dosent even beleive half of the stuff he says...
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: CARTEL on February 28, 2009, 08:35:27 PM
Coach....seriously man to man..You cant really take what rush says as gosepel...its only entertainment...Seriousl y he does it for ratings. HE dosent even beleive half of the stuff he says...

Oh, he believes it alright. Same for Bill Maher, Sean Hannity, Al Franken, etc.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: MattT on February 28, 2009, 08:35:38 PM
Coach....seriously man to man..You cant really take what rush says as gosepel...its only entertainment...Seriousl y he does it for ratings. HE dosent even beleive half of the stuff he says...


big_mal don't tell coach that!, we want republicans to think Rush is their leader.  It will only make Obamas re-election that much easier.    They need the black vote in order to win the white house, and as long as rush keeps on preaching his bs, the republicans will never regain the black vote nor win more support with their KKK like rallies.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: timfogarty on February 28, 2009, 08:36:07 PM
Coach....seriously man to man..You cant really take what rush says as gosepel...its only entertainment...Seriousl y he does it for ratings. HE dosent even beleive half of the stuff he says...

I disagree.  Let him be the face of the Republican party.  In fact, look for Democrats reminding people of that every chance they get.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: CARTEL on February 28, 2009, 08:38:51 PM

big_mal don't tell coach that!, we want republicans to think Rush is their leader.  It will only make Obamas re-election that much easier.    They need the black vote in order to win the white house, and as long as rush keeps on preaching his bs, the republicans will never regain the black vote nor win more support with their KKK like rallies.

They don't need the black vote.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Cap on February 28, 2009, 08:39:49 PM

big_mal don't tell coach that!, we want republicans to think Rush is their leader.  It will only make Obamas re-election that much easier.    They need the black vote in order to win the white house, and as long as rush keeps on preaching his bs, the republicans will never regain the black vote nor win more support with their KKK like rallies.

1. The black vote didn't give Barry the White House.  The lack of Republican turn out due to a weak ticket lost the White House.

2. Obama will lose he reelection on his own merits.

Seriously though Matt, do you fantasize about blowing Obama more than Will Harris?  It seems your man crush has changed in the last few months.
Title: Rush Limbaugh's Speech at CPAC = KKK Rally?
Post by: MattT on February 28, 2009, 08:45:36 PM
IMO its no different i can't wait for Keith Olberman to destroy him on Monday! ;D
Title: Re: Rush Limbaugh's Speech at CPAC = KKK Rally?
Post by: calfzilla on February 28, 2009, 08:46:23 PM
LOL Oberman sucks!  Nobody respects that guy. 
Title: Re: Rush Limbaugh's Speech at CPAC = KKK Rally?
Post by: The Coach on February 28, 2009, 08:49:35 PM
LOL Oberman sucks!  Nobody respects that guy. 

Thats not true, all 10 members of his listening audence including Matt respect the hell out of him ;D
Title: Re: Rush Limbaugh's Speech at CPAC = KKK Rally?
Post by: QuakerOats on February 28, 2009, 08:50:35 PM
Thats not true, all 10 members of his listening audence including Matt respect the hell out of him ;D
are you inferring that Obama needs to lift some weights, eat some cheeseburgers and stock up on a few bottles of test cypionate, Joe?
Title: Re: Rush Limbaugh's Speech at CPAC = KKK Rally?
Post by: The Coach on February 28, 2009, 08:52:44 PM
are you inferring that Obama needs to lift some weights, eat some cheeseburgers and stock up on a few bottles of test cypionate, Joe?

Yes, Dave, just as long as it doesn't interfere with  his 12 pack a day smoking habit!
Title: Re: Rush Limbaugh's Speech at CPAC = KKK Rally?
Post by: QuakerOats on February 28, 2009, 08:53:21 PM
Yes, Dave, just as long as it doesn't interfere with  his 12 pack a day smoking habit!
hahahahhaa, he's quite the picture of brawny health is he not? ;D
Title: Re: Rush Limbaugh's Speech at CPAC = KKK Rally?
Post by: io856 on February 28, 2009, 08:55:23 PM
are you inferring that Obama needs to lift some weights, eat some cheeseburgers and stock up on a few bottles of test cypionate, Joe?
;D
Title: Re: Rush Limbaugh's Speech at CPAC = KKK Rally?
Post by: The Coach on February 28, 2009, 08:55:56 PM
hahahahhaa, he's quite the picture of brawny health is he not? ;D

He has been looking a little pale latey. Damn, by the time his term ends he'll be back to chain smoking and blow.
Title: Re: Rush Limbaugh's Speech at CPAC = KKK Rally?
Post by: QuakerOats on February 28, 2009, 08:56:36 PM
He has been looking a little pale latey. Damn, by the time his term ends he'll be back to chain smoking and blow.
;D maybe he can start hanging out with his boy Blagojevich too.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: liberalismo on February 28, 2009, 09:12:30 PM
Rush Limbaugh is an ignorant, weak, unhealthy, hypocritical, obese pile of human waste.



Is this really the Ideal Human Being?


(http://foxforum.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/limbaugh_rush.jpg)




Or is this an overweight weak armchair warrior who's bark is all he is?
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: QuakerOats on February 28, 2009, 09:13:11 PM
Rush Limbaugh is an ignorant, weak, unhealthy, hypocritical, obese pile of human waste.



Is this really the Ideal Human Being?


(http://foxforum.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/limbaugh_rush.jpg)




Or is this an overweight weak armchair warrior who's bark is all he is?
yet he has 400 million more $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ than you. :D
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: io856 on February 28, 2009, 09:18:18 PM
Rush Limbaugh is an ignorant, weak, unhealthy, hypocritical, obese pile of human waste.



Is this really the Ideal Human Being?





Or is this an overweight weak armchair warrior who's bark is all he is?
::)

settle down junior
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: liberalismo on February 28, 2009, 09:20:30 PM
yet he has 400 million more $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ than you. :D



So anyone who has a lot of money is automatically an "Ideal human being"?



I guess that Snoop Dog and 50cent and R Kelly are Ideal human beings too?


Or how about Madoff? He was quite rich at a time.



Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: io856 on February 28, 2009, 09:21:56 PM


So anyone who has a lot of money is automatically an "Ideal human being"?



I guess that Snoop Dog and 50cent and R Kelly are Ideal human beings too?


Or how about Madoff? He was quite rich at a time.




you're quite the "ideal human being" yourself there, junior
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: liberalismo on February 28, 2009, 09:25:52 PM
you're quite the "ideal human being" yourself there, junior


Much better than Limbaugh. No doubt about that.


But go ahead...Keep worshiping an obese hypocritical drug abusing loudmouth with an I.Q. of 60.
Title: Re: Rush Limbaugh's Speech at CPAC = KKK Rally?
Post by: MichaelScottDM on February 28, 2009, 09:26:04 PM
"Communism here we come"  Obama
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: muscularny on February 28, 2009, 09:50:29 PM
guy is right on and only a matter of months before even blacks will be protesting against obama
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Slapper on March 01, 2009, 05:07:29 AM
(http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/b/A/limbaugh_oxycontin.jpg)
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Relentless on March 01, 2009, 06:58:43 AM

Much better than Limbaugh. No doubt about that.


But go ahead...Keep worshiping an obese hypocritical drug abusing loudmouth with an I.Q. of 60.

You're an idiot.  He's got a higher IQ and more money than you could ever hope to have. 
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Mons Venus on March 01, 2009, 07:07:06 AM

Unbelievable speech, talking about totally PWNING libs Sticky Studs 8)


Fixed
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 01, 2009, 07:30:26 AM

Much better than Limbaugh. No doubt about that.


But go ahead...Keep worshiping an obese hypocritical drug abusing loudmouth with an I.Q. of 60.

Ok, you are better than him???

1.  Do you give to charities like he does?
2.  Do you employee people and pay their salaries like he does?
3.  Do you pay millions of dollars a year in taxes to fund the govt like he does?
4.  Do you hold charity drives like he does?
5.  Have you started a successful business like he has?

Tell me, how are you better than him?
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Relentless on March 01, 2009, 07:36:01 AM
Ok, you are better than him???

1.  Do you give to charities like he does?
2.  Do you employee people and pay their salaries like he does?
3.  Do you pay millions of dollars a year in taxes to fund the govt like he does?
4.  Do you hold charity drives like he does?
5.  Have you started a successful business like he has?

Tell me, how are you better than him?

QFT.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: shootfighter1 on March 01, 2009, 09:12:59 AM
Rush is not the best spokeman but by most accounts his speech at the conference was excellent.  I haven't seen it but there are some videos floating around.

Obama's spending is way out of control.  The budget is insane and sets us up for budget deficits for at least the next 8-10 years.  Many people on talk shows this AM agreed.  So much for a centrist.  Here is your real big spending liberal.  Huge mistake electing this guy.  Longing for the Clinton/Gingrich era.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: shootfighter1 on March 01, 2009, 09:17:16 AM
We need to get away from thinking republicans are not for blacks or minorities.  The republican party was the party to end slavery.  Republicans need to focus on limited gov, a huge cut back on spending, keeping everyone's taxes low, and rallying against entitlements and the nanny state.  That will resonate well with most people who don't need the gov for everything regardless of race.

For the repubs to succeed, they must continue to push along ideological lines only.  They need to attract conservative blacks and hispanics.  Electing Steele may bring some along.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 01, 2009, 09:33:29 AM
We need to get away from thinking republicans are not for blacks or minorities.  The republican party was the party to end slavery.  Republicans need to focus on limited gov, a huge cut back on spending, keeping everyone's taxes low, and rallying against entitlements and the nanny state.  That will resonate well with most people who don't need the gov for everything regardless of race.

For the repubs to succeed, they must continue to push along ideological lines only.  They need to attract conservative blacks and hispanics.  Electing Steele may bring some along.

The proble is that you have poverty pimps like Obama/Sharpton/Jackson/Frank/Pelosi, et al who preach vitcimhood and the benefits of welfare.

Sadly, that message has taken hold far more than a Ron Paul message of independence, freedom, liberty, etc.

They preach equality of wealth, outcome, salary while I want to hear a message of freedom of opportunity, liberty to succeed without overbearing govt interference, and low taxes.

For people who mostly get free stuff from the government, they are NEVER going to vote for someone who is perceived as wanting to lessen their dependence on the govt programs.

They are no different than drug addicts who cant kick the dependency.       
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Dan-O on March 01, 2009, 09:46:05 AM
The proble is that you have poverty pimps like Obama/Sharpton/Jackson/Frank/Pelosi, et al who preach vitcimhood and the benefits of welfare.

Sadly, that message has taken hold far more than a Ron Paul message of independence, freedom, liberty, etc.

They preach equality of wealth, outcome, salary while I want to hear a message of freedom of opportunity, liberty to succeed without overbearing govt interference, and low taxes.

For people who mostly get free stuff from the government, they are NEVER going to vote for someone who is perceived as wanting to lessen their dependence on the govt programs.

They are no different than drug addicts who cant kick the dependency.       

You pretty much nailed it...

But (as we have seen) as long as there are lazy, unmotivated people with victim mentalities, and as long as there are other people who are happy to exploit those people and pander to the lowest common denominator of society, then you'll get scenarios like we have now.  Of course someone's gotta pay for it all.  That's where you and I come in.

And before some bleeding heart chimes in--the people who actually need and legitimately deserve our welfare are a tiny miniscule percentage of all those who receive it.  I've got no problem with those people, but unfortunately the system gets worked and abused by lazy freeloaders AND "leaders" who are only too happy to encourage and promote their continued dependence.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 01, 2009, 09:49:39 AM
You pretty much nailed it...

But (as we have seen) as long as there are lazy, unmotivated people with victim mentalities, and as long as there are other people who are happy to exploit those people and pander to the lowest common denominator of society, then you'll get scenarios like we have now.  Of course someone's gotta pay for it all.  That's where you and I come in.

And before some bleeding heart chimes in--the people who actually need and legitimately deserve our welfare are a tiny miniscule percentage of all those who receive it.  I've got no problem with those people, but unfortunately the system gets worked and abused by lazy freeloaders AND "leaders" who are only too happy to encourage and promote their continued dependence.

What Obama is doing now is to try to increase the welfare state and get more people on the dole.

It seems to me that his goal is to have a huge underclass of dependent voters on govt programs and small uber elite rich class like Buffet, Soros, amnd the rest.

There is no other explanation for what he is doing. 
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Dan-O on March 01, 2009, 09:57:46 AM
What Obama is doing now is to try to increase the welfare state and get more people on the dole.

It seems to me that his goal is to have a huge underclass of dependent voters on govt programs and small uber elite rich class like Buffet, Soros, amnd the rest.

There is no other explanation for what he is doing. 

It's so ass-backwards when you break it down that way...  instead of government for the people as the founding fathers intended (and the Constitution was intended to preserve that freedom), it's becoming people for the government.  How f'ed up.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 01, 2009, 10:16:08 AM
It's so ass-backwards when you break it down that way...  instead of government for the people as the founding fathers intended (and the Constitution was intended to preserve that freedom), it's becoming people for the government.  How f'ed up.

Look, most of the fools who post here are college students, recent grads, or bitter employees who have no clue how buisness works.  Their whole ideology is based on what a professor told them in college.  Said professor probably would not last 5 minutes in the private sector and is a bitter marxist ripping off his students by filling their heads with ignorant garbage.

I have owned a small business for 6 years and have mostly small business clients and I know exactly what is going on.  These fools who argue with me never ran a business, never met a payroll, never had accountability to a bottom line, never managed ar or ap issues, etc.

From first hand information, I am telling you that most of my clients will simply cut back employees, cut back spending, and simply pare down operations when Obama puts the target on their back.  Obama is the biggest fraud in my lifetime and he appeals to a bitter attitude against business owners who take risks, who employee people, who have everything on the line, and who make the country work.

For example, no joke, I am at work as I type this filling out direct mailings to potential new customers as I write this pot.  I am taking a 5 minute break.  how many employees are willing to do the same on a sunday?  How many welfare scumbags are willing to work for what they get?

I am here on a sunday busting my ass at work to try to get new clients, keep things going, etc, and this FRAUD & COMMUNIST Obama wants to target me for trying to make my business successful????

Hey Obama - Fuck off - go to hell!         
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: The Coach on March 01, 2009, 10:40:51 AM
Yep, that about sums it up.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Straw Man on March 01, 2009, 10:53:15 AM
Perfect analysis of Rush and his acolytes (maybe the one or two on this board will recognize themself)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677#29418530

For all the Olberman haters try to grit your teeth and get to ~ 1:30 for the (IMO) great analysis of Rush and really to a larger extent the remainder of the NeoCon Party (formerly Republican Party)

For those who can't or won't make it the summary is:  Self Loathing Narcissist
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 01, 2009, 11:10:29 AM
Yep, that about sums it up.

Serious, I deal with phonies, frauds, con men, thieves, scammers, daily in order to get my clients paid for services they performed.  I grew up in the Bronx/NYC/lower weschester area and know a hell of a lot more than people in "middle america" about what is going on, well before it reaches the news.  Its not arrogance, its just what the reality is. 

If you want to second guess me, look up "tanglewood boys" on the intrnet and that is what I grew up with. 

I know instantly when someone is a scammer, a fraud, a liar, a thief, etc.  I grew up with gangsters, mobsters, mafia members, etc and know their type all too well.  You fools who live in "flyover country" have no idea what a gangster Obama truly is!     

This garbage is just starting, not even close to finisihing.

The liberal "useful idiots" and Lenin called them are just carrying his water without even realizing it. 
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Straw Man on March 01, 2009, 11:18:43 AM
Serious, I deal with phonies, frauds, con men, thieves, scammers, daily in order to get my clients paid for services they performed.  I grew up in the Bronx/NYC/lower weschester area and know a hell of a lot more than people in "middle america" about what is going on, well before it reaches the news.  Its not arrogance, its just what the reality is. 

If you want to second guess me, look up "tanglewood boys" on the intrnet and that is what I grew up with. 

I know instantly when someone is a scammer, a fraud, a liar, a thief, etc.  I grew up with gangsters, mobsters, mafia members, etc and know their type all too well.  You fools who live in "flyover country" have no idea what a gangster Obama truly is!     

This garbage is just starting, not even close to finisihing.

The liberal "useful idiots" and Lenin called them are just carrying his water without even realizing it.  

The only ones who remain on the right are the "useful idiots"

case in point
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 01, 2009, 11:24:16 AM
The only ones who remain on the right are the "useful idiots"

case in point

Good example.  Joe the Plumber's time has run out.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: 240 is Back on March 01, 2009, 11:46:48 AM
Rush did his time in the military, didn't he?
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 01, 2009, 11:49:40 AM
Rush did his time in the military, didn't he?

So did Obama and Biden. 
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Straw Man on March 01, 2009, 11:53:12 AM
I am here on a sunday busting my ass at work to try to get new clients, keep things going, etc, and this FRAUD & COMMUNIST Obama wants to target me for trying to make my business successful????     

I'd have a easier time taking you seriously if you didn't rant and rave and foam at the mouth.

How is Obama targeting you and how does it affect your biz?

I'm really curious to hear your perspective as I have some knowledge of the mortgage and RE biz and there ARE some changes being implemented that I think will ultimately hurt the consumer and give banks and unfair advantage and I'd like to hear your persepective.   Please try to avoid using "1000%", COMMUNIST etc..
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Straw Man on March 01, 2009, 11:54:49 AM
So did Obama and Biden. 

both have more respect for the military than Bush ever did.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: The ChemistV2 on March 01, 2009, 12:03:22 PM
Look, most of the fools who post here are college students, recent grads, or bitter employees who have no clue how buisness works.  Their whole ideology is based on what a professor told them in college.  Said professor probably would not last 5 minutes in the private sector and is a bitter marxist ripping off his students by filling their heads with ignorant garbage.

I have owned a small business for 6 years and have mostly small business clients and I know exactly what is going on.  These fools who argue with me never ran a business, never met a payroll, never had accountability to a bottom line, never managed ar or ap issues, etc.

From first hand information, I am telling you that most of my clients will simply cut back employees, cut back spending, and simply pare down operations when Obama puts the target on their back.  Obama is the biggest fraud in my lifetime and he appeals to a bitter attitude against business owners who take risks, who employee people, who have everything on the line, and who make the country work.

For example, no joke, I am at work as I type this filling out direct mailings to potential new customers as I write this pot.  I am taking a 5 minute break.  how many employees are willing to do the same on a sunday?  How many welfare scumbags are willing to work for what they get?

I am here on a sunday busting my ass at work to try to get new clients, keep things going, etc, and this FRAUD & COMMUNIST Obama wants to target me for trying to make my business successful????

Hey Obama - Fuck off - go to hell!         
Exactly. People who have set goals, worked hard and achieved some sort of success for themselves will seldom agree with an agenda like Obama has set forth.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 01, 2009, 12:32:41 PM
Exactly. People who have set goals, worked hard and achieved some sort of success for themselves will seldom agree with an agenda like Obama has set forth.

Obama's entire existence is 10000% against everything I am about.

Has he once told people out of work to start a new business?

Has he once told people who are laid off to go back to their employer and tell them they are willing to do anyrthint to keep their job?

Has he once told people that they will have to work harder for the same result?

Has he once told people that their employer is not their enemy????

NO!

Obama is a fraud, a liar and a demogogue of the worst sense. 

He has never worked a real job in his life, has no clue how money and income are earned, and has ZERO clue how the economy works.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: The ChemistV2 on March 01, 2009, 12:45:40 PM
Obama's entire existence is 10000% against everything I am about.

Has he once told people out of work to start a new business?

Has he once told people who are laid off to go back to their employer and tell them they are willing to do anyrthint to keep their job?

Has he once told people that they will have to work harder for the same result?

Has he once told people that their employer is not their enemy????

NO!

Obama is a fraud, a liar and a demogogue of the worst sense. 

He has never worked a real job in his life, has no clue how money and income are earned, and has ZERO clue how the economy works.
The real problem and how this is happening is because of timing. Anyone who knows their history will realize it was during the Clinton administration that policies were set forth that pressured the entire mortgage industry to drastically lower the lending standards so the "unfortunate people" who had terrible credit scores, a history of irresponsibility and no verifiable legitamate source of income could share in the dream of home ownership. This was the first step towards the credit crisis disaster we have now. Of course the results don't happen overnight, so during the last phase of the Bush administration was when it truly unfolded. This timing gave the leftists a chance to blame the current administration. I have a feeling pretty soon, people in places like Cuba will stop risking their lives to come here because they'll see our system is slowly evolving into theirs.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Mons Venus on March 01, 2009, 12:51:39 PM
Obama's entire existence is 10000% against everything I am about.

Has he once told people out of work to start a new business?

Has he once told people who are laid off to go back to their employer and tell them they are willing to do anyrthint to keep their job?

Has he once told people that they will have to work harder for the same result?

Has he once told people that their employer is not their enemy????

NO!

Obama is a fraud, a liar and a demogogue of the worst sense. 

He has never worked a real job in his life, has no clue how money and income are earned, and has ZERO clue how the economy works.

In 2 yrs taxes will roll back to rates from the 90's.

STOP FUCCKING WHINING!  :'(
Title: Re: Rush Limbaugh's Speech at CPAC = KKK Rally?
Post by: jesusbod on March 01, 2009, 01:03:17 PM
IMO its no different i can't wait for Keith Olberman to destroy him on Monday! ;D

Are you serious? Olberman is a joke. Along with his partners in crime, Maddow and Matthews. These people are really the delusional ones.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 01, 2009, 01:05:55 PM
In 2 yrs taxes will roll back to rates from the 90's.

STOP FUCCKING WHINING!  :'(

Im talking about unemployed people.

I get resumes sent to me daily by people looking for work.  They get thrown right in the toilet.  

The only way i will consider someone is if they:

1.  Show up at my office unannounced and ask or work.
2.  Call me at least two times
3.  Shows some guts.

Otherwise, they are probably a loafer and looking to run the clock on my time.

No thanks.  

The last guy I hired was making a 1g a week within a few weeks putting in 20 hours a week from home.  He had drive, hustle, and initiative to get the job done and he made out fine.

He got a police job and could not work with me anymore but the point is that if you want to make $$$ you have to hustle, cold call, network, and pound the pavement.

The old ways of doing things are over.    
  
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Straw Man on March 01, 2009, 01:06:43 PM
perfect analysis of Rush, his followers and hard core neocons in general:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677#29418530
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 01, 2009, 01:12:12 PM
perfect analysis of Rush, his followers and hard core neocons in general:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677#29418530


You mean the network with the worst ratings?

Limbaugh is a clown, but what is he wrong about?

Give me a specific thing he is wrong about.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Straw Man on March 01, 2009, 01:19:36 PM
You mean the network with the worst ratings?

Limbaugh is a clown, but what is he wrong about?

Give me a specific thing he is wrong about.
I don't have the time to waste

Maybe if I have absolutely nothing to do later I'll watch the videos at the beginning of this thread.

I do think Garafalo's assessment of Rush and his follower is spot on.   They are self loathing human beings who crave an authoritarian figure.  They crave to be treated like a child and complex problems scare and confuse them.  They need simplistic answers. 
 

Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 01, 2009, 01:24:42 PM
I don't have the time to waste

Maybe if I have absolutely nothing to do later I'll watch the videos at the beginning of this thread.

I do think Garafalo's assessment of Rush and his follower is spot on.   They are self loathing human beings who crave an authoritarian figure.  They crave to be treated like a child and complex problems scare and confuse them.  They need simplistic answers. 
 



Limbaugh has a net worth of god know how much.  Garafolo is left to doing a side skit on 24 after her radio show flopped.  Whose advice would you take if you want to be successful????????????

Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Straw Man on March 01, 2009, 02:16:02 PM
Limbaugh has a net worth of god know how much.  Garafolo is left to doing a side skit on 24 after her radio show flopped.  Whose advice would you take if you want to be successful????????????

Neither

Limbaugh's net worth is irrelevent. 

Bernie Madoff had a big net worth.  Should I be seeking his advice

I just happen to think Garafolo's assesment of Rush and his followers is spot on.   
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: tu_holmes on March 01, 2009, 02:21:40 PM
Im talking about unemployed people.

I get resumes sent to me daily by people looking for work.  They get thrown right in the toilet.  

The only way i will consider someone is if they:

1.  Show up at my office unannounced and ask or work.
2.  Call me at least two times
3.  Shows some guts.

Otherwise, they are probably a loafer and looking to run the clock on my time.

No thanks.  

The last guy I hired was making a 1g a week within a few weeks putting in 20 hours a week from home.  He had drive, hustle, and initiative to get the job done and he made out fine.

He got a police job and could not work with me anymore but the point is that if you want to make $$$ you have to hustle, cold call, network, and pound the pavement.

The old ways of doing things are over.    
  

You toss peoples resumes because they send them to you?

That makes no sense at all... This is the new world man... You're right the old ways don't work anymore... No one calls or bothers a prospective employer... Their resumes speak for themselves and if they have what you're looking for you return their courteous resume with a courteous reply.

If you won't pick up the phone or email someone back, then you're not really serious about hiring someone in my book.

It's a two way street... Why would I waste my time with a discourteous employer... Odds are they're just going to be a dick anyway.
Title: Re: Rush Limbaugh's Speech at CPAC = KKK Rally?
Post by: The Coach on March 01, 2009, 05:47:18 PM
Are you serious? Olberman is a joke. Along with his partners in crime, Maddow and Matthews. These people are really the delusional ones.

That being said........Olberman doesn't pay his taxes either!
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: liberalismo on March 01, 2009, 06:06:00 PM
You're an idiot.  He's got a higher IQ and more money than you could ever hope to have. 


If his IQ is higher than mine, then he's a liar. Because no one with an I.Q. above 100 could ever believe the bullshit coming out of his mouth daily.





Ok, you are better than him???

I would say so.


1.  Do you give to charities like he does?

Like he does? No. I give what I can to charities.


2.  Do you employee people and pay their salaries like he does?

No. Paying salaries doesn't make you a good person. Enron paid a lot of salaries too.  ::)



3.  Do you pay millions of dollars a year in taxes to fund the govt like he does?

Your questions are getting dumber and dumber.



4.  Do you hold charity drives like he does?

Nope.


5.  Have you started a successful business like he has?

Nope.

Tell me, how are you better than him?

I'm honest.
I'm not a hypocrite.
I'm considerate.
I'm thoughtful.
I'm empathetic.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: liberalismo on March 01, 2009, 06:11:59 PM
Obama's entire existence is 10000% against everything I am about.

Has he once told people out of work to start a new business?


Not everyone can start a business. Telling unemployed people to all start businesses would be like telling a lot of penguins to fly.


Has he once told people who are laid off to go back to their employer and tell them they are willing to do anyrthint to keep their job?

There is such a thing as "pride" in this country. Where people are willing to be temporarily unemployed if they are disrespected and abused by their employers. If you don't have self-respect, then you have nothing. You're a puppet.


Has he once told people that they will have to work harder for the same result?

No. Because if you're working the right way, harder work means better results.


Has he once told people that their employer is not their enemy????

No point in generalizing. Employers are sometimes the enemy


Try getting a real job and you will understand this.




He has never worked a real job in his life, has no clue how money and income are earned, and has ZERO clue how the economy works.



I could ask all of the questions about you that I was just asked about Rush Limbaugh in comparison to Obama and "prove" that he's a better person than you are.  ::)
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: liberalismo on March 01, 2009, 06:16:16 PM
Im talking about unemployed people.

I get resumes sent to me daily by people looking for work.  They get thrown right in the toilet.  

The only way i will consider someone is if they:

1.  Show up at my office unannounced and ask or work.
2.  Call me at least two times
3.  Shows some guts.


You probably toss out a lot of fantastic candidates for jobs because they have a different style than you do. Just because someone prefers sending a resume doesn't mean that they can't do all of the things you listed to be a hard worker. Some people would prefer that you know their credentials on paper before interviewing them. You're prejudice.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: The Coach on March 01, 2009, 06:22:51 PM

Not everyone can start a business. Telling unemployed people to all start businesses would be like telling a lot of penguins to fly.



Thats crap, thats exacty what liberals want you to believe so people can depend on the government for support. I literally started out with NOTHING and asked no one for a handout, not the government, not my friends, not my family not even my mom. You don't seem to undestand that's what is great about this country, you can start from nothing and wind up successful.

Maybe the people that are telling you this are also telling you penguins can fly. If someone tells you that you can't do something, it's time to step up and prove them wrong.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: tu_holmes on March 01, 2009, 06:26:49 PM
Thats crap, thats exacty what liberals want you to believe so people can depend on the government for support. I literally started out with NOTHING and asked no one for a handout, not the government, not my friends, not my family not even my mom. You don't seem to undestand that's what is great about this country, you can start from nothing and wind up successful.

Maybe the people that are telling you this are also telling you penguins can fly. If someone tells you that you can't do something, it's time to step up and prove them wrong.

Joe, I agree with you on this point... but why only answer this one point and none of the rest?
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: The Coach on March 01, 2009, 06:31:58 PM
Joe, I agree with you on this point... but why only answer this one point and none of the rest?

Because thats what stuck out the most. I hate when someone tells someone else that they can't do this or they can't do that.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: tu_holmes on March 01, 2009, 06:36:28 PM
Because thats what stuck out the most. I hate when someone tells someone else that they can't do this or they can't do that.
Fair enough.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Dos Equis on March 01, 2009, 06:36:44 PM
You probably toss out a lot of fantastic candidates for jobs because they have a different style than you do. Just because someone prefers sending a resume doesn't mean that they can't do all of the things you listed to be a hard worker. Some people would prefer that you know their credentials on paper before interviewing them. You're prejudice.

I see nothing wrong with what he does.  It's not how I would do it, but it's his business.  I eliminate any candidate with typos in their resumes/cover letters.  I might lose some "fantastic candidates" too.  Everyone has their particular likes, dislikes, desired qualities, etc.  
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: liberalismo on March 01, 2009, 06:51:20 PM
Thats crap, thats exacty what liberals want you to believe so people can depend on the government for support. I literally started out with NOTHING and asked no one for a handout, not the government, not my friends, not my family not even my mom. You don't seem to undestand that's what is great about this country, you can start from nothing and wind up successful.

Maybe the people that are telling you this are also telling you penguins can fly. If someone tells you that you can't do something, it's time to step up and prove them wrong.


You're simple minded. People are different and have different abilities. Not everyone has the sort of mind required to start and run a business. Some people are good at other things, and organization isn't always one of them. Simple concept.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: liberalismo on March 01, 2009, 06:54:18 PM
I see nothing wrong with what he does.  It's not how I would do it, but it's his business.  I eliminate any candidate with typos in their resumes/cover letters.  I might lose some "fantastic candidates" too.  Everyone has their particular likes, dislikes, desired qualities, etc.  


Obviously you do. You run your business badly. You would be more productive if you didn't eliminate candidates based on trivial and pointless issues. Spelling mistakes can occur for any number of reasons which have nothing to do with intelligence or work ethic.

You're a fool.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Dos Equis on March 01, 2009, 06:56:21 PM
Thats crap, thats exacty what liberals want you to believe so people can depend on the government for support. I literally started out with NOTHING and asked no one for a handout, not the government, not my friends, not my family not even my mom. You don't seem to undestand that's what is great about this country, you can start from nothing and wind up successful.

Maybe the people that are telling you this are also telling you penguins can fly. If someone tells you that you can't do something, it's time to step up and prove them wrong.

I completely agree.  That's one of the reasons I liked Jindal's message the other day.  People in this country have unlimited potential. 
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Dos Equis on March 01, 2009, 07:02:46 PM

Obviously you do. You run your business badly. You would be more productive if you didn't eliminate candidates based on trivial and pointless issues. Spelling mistakes can occur for any number of reasons which have nothing to do with intelligence or work ethic.

You're a fool.

lol.  How ironic.  Only a fool would make a blanket statement about a business he knows nothing about.  ::) 

But you're missing the point.  Everyone in business has the ability to establish whatever (legal) hiring criteria they want.  In any event, you don't know what the heck you're talking about.  A cover letter and resume are a first impression.  Typos in those two documents have very much to do with work ethic, carefulness, attention to detail, which are qualities I look for in a candidate.   

What's obvious is you have never run a successful business.  You should listen to people like 3333 and Coach.  You might learn something.  Unless of course you're content punching a clock for someone else. 
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: The Coach on March 01, 2009, 07:02:57 PM
Being simple minded is giving up and not being able to fend for yourself and your family and depending on others for help.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: liberalismo on March 01, 2009, 07:37:57 PM
lol.  How ironic.  Only a fool would make a blanket statement about a business he knows nothing about.  ::) 


Unless you're in the business of copy editing, then blanket statements like mine are totally warranted. As I explained why.


But you're missing the point.  Everyone in business has the ability to establish whatever (legal) hiring criteria they want.  In any event, you don't know what the heck you're talking about.  A cover letter and resume are a first impression.  Typos in those two documents have very much to do with work ethic, carefulness, attention to detail, which are qualities I look for in a candidate.   


No. A typo can mean a dozen things. None of which equate to intelligence or work ethic.

1. Broken spellchecker that gives them the wrong spelling.
2. Misprint
3. Dyslexia
4. Simple lack of ability to spell certain words.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: liberalismo on March 01, 2009, 07:43:47 PM
Being simple minded is giving up and not being able to fend for yourself and your family and depending on others for help.


You're confused (again). You depend on help from others. Everyone in any modern society does.

You drive roads built by tax payer dollars.
You rely on police and fire fighters paid for by tax dollars.
You rely on a court and justice system paid for by tax dollars.
You rely on infrastructure paid for by tax dollars.
Your children rely on education paid for by tax dollars.

Etc. Etc.


Obviously evil socialism!  ::)
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: The Coach on March 01, 2009, 08:14:58 PM
I don't think you quite understand. I understand, even though I don't like taxes I know they are nessessary, BUT it has been proven time and time again socialism doesn't work and cutting taxes always made for a more prosperous country. And for the record, my son does not go to a public school, he goes to a private school, has since day 1, that being said I don't rely on tax payers to support me, but you know what, I still have to pay taxes for public schooling for others, you think thats fair?? And now MY taxes will be raised even more. Now as far as police. I don't know where you live but where I live we have retard for a governor who thinks cutting back on police services and teachers is a wise move.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: liberalismo on March 01, 2009, 08:38:12 PM
I don't think you quite understand. I understand, even though I don't like taxes I know they are nessessary, BUT it has been proven time and time again socialism doesn't work and cutting taxes always made for a more prosperous country. And for the record, my son does not go to a public school, he goes to a private school, has since day 1, that being said I don't rely on tax payers to support me, but you know what, I still have to pay taxes for public schooling for others, you think thats fair?? And now MY taxes will be raised even more. Now as far as police. I don't know where you live but where I live we have retard for a governor who thinks cutting back on police services and teachers is a wise move.


You don't even know what "Socialism" is or what it means. You have this fallacious idea of what socialism is, gleamed from talk radio or conservative television news channels. You have no idea what Socialism is.

You send your kid to a private school? How...exclusionary of you. But the fact of the matter is that you DO rely on government funded things like roads, infrastructure, police, fire, etc.  How would you feel if all roads were tolled? Police and firefighters didn't come unless you could pay them? Schools kicked kids out who's parents cant pay for them?


I'm sure you would support this, since you're an absolute idiot. But the fact is that society works on the basis of "cooperation". True cooperation, the kind where roads are built and police and fire fighters are maintained and schools constructed, rely totally on taxing the people and using that money for these things. No society could ever function today in this modern economy if it did not provide free education to all of its children, regardless of income. The children are who will carry the economy in the future, and if they are uneducated (even the one's who can't pay) then that harms the economy. It creates all sorts of problems. The same goes for roads, police, fire, etc.


The same ALSO goes for health care. No country can function properly if its people are unhealthy and can not get proper medical attention. Lack of productivity, lack of motivation, lost wages, lost hours, all of this hurts the economy and in turn hurts everyone living in that society. This is why it is required for a modern productive society to provide general healthcare for all of its population. The people are the investment, and if they are sick then it hurts everyone. This isn't a "every man for himself" scenario, because if my neighbor loses and gets sick and can't pay then in the long run it indirectly hurts me and everyone else.

Obviously people need to make smart choices in living healthy, exercising and eating healthy...But this goes back to proper education (another filthy socialist idea).
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Straw Man on March 01, 2009, 09:00:25 PM
I don't think you quite understand. I understand, even though I don't like taxes I know they are nessessary, BUT it has been proven time and time again socialism doesn't work and cutting taxes always made for a more prosperous country. And for the record, my son does not go to a public school, he goes to a private school, has since day 1, that being said I don't rely on tax payers to support me, but you know what, I still have to pay taxes for public schooling for others, you think thats fair?? And now MY taxes will be raised even more. Now as far as police. I don't know where you live but where I live we have retard for a governor who thinks cutting back on police services and teachers is a wise move.

examples?
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: liberalismo on March 01, 2009, 09:06:32 PM
examples?


Coach has the attention span of a 2 year old. Don't distract him, I want him to respond to all of my post first.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Straw Man on March 01, 2009, 09:07:56 PM

Coach has the attention span of a 2 year old. Don't distract him, I want him to respond to all of my post first.

come on now

I'm pretty sure he's at least to the level of a 7 year old
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: shootfighter1 on March 01, 2009, 09:28:48 PM
Yes, we need to pay taxes for necessities like infrastructure, local gov, police & fire, etc but Obama is setting up an extended government system where, in general, he will take more in taxes to pay for more government that takes and provides more goods and services.
I feel like his policies swing too far left, whereas, people are not being encouraged to change poor decision making and maladaptive behavior.  I believe in supporting the disadvantage with programs that assist them but I do not agree with creating more people dependent upon the system.  This is what Obama is creating.  Also, today its higher taxes on families making over 250K but I assure you that if he carries through on the vast goals he set forth in the last couple weeks, either our taxes will go up, we have inflation, or our money will become devalued.  We cannot pay for all the things Obama wants to do.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: calfzilla on March 01, 2009, 09:35:05 PM
Rush needs to bring up his triceps. 
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: JOCKTHEGLIDE on March 01, 2009, 09:49:06 PM
rush has NO IDEA what he is talking about,,,,PERIOD  ::)
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: War-Horse on March 01, 2009, 11:14:16 PM

Coach has the attention span of a 2 year old. Don't distract him, I want him to respond to all of my post first.



LOL.  This is true with most Rush supporters.... ;D
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: War-Horse on March 01, 2009, 11:16:46 PM

You don't even know what "Socialism" is or what it means. You have this fallacious idea of what socialism is, gleamed from talk radio or conservative television news channels. You have no idea what Socialism is.

You send your kid to a private school? How...exclusionary of you. But the fact of the matter is that you DO rely on government funded things like roads, infrastructure, police, fire, etc.  How would you feel if all roads were tolled? Police and firefighters didn't come unless you could pay them? Schools kicked kids out who's parents cant pay for them?


I'm sure you would support this, since you're an absolute idiot. But the fact is that society works on the basis of "cooperation". True cooperation, the kind where roads are built and police and fire fighters are maintained and schools constructed, rely totally on taxing the people and using that money for these things. No society could ever function today in this modern economy if it did not provide free education to all of its children, regardless of income. The children are who will carry the economy in the future, and if they are uneducated (even the one's who can't pay) then that harms the economy. It creates all sorts of problems. The same goes for roads, police, fire, etc.


The same ALSO goes for health care. No country can function properly if its people are unhealthy and can not get proper medical attention. Lack of productivity, lack of motivation, lost wages, lost hours, all of this hurts the economy and in turn hurts everyone living in that society. This is why it is required for a modern productive society to provide general healthcare for all of its population. The people are the investment, and if they are sick then it hurts everyone. This isn't a "every man for himself" scenario, because if my neighbor loses and gets sick and can't pay then in the long run it indirectly hurts me and everyone else.

Obviously people need to make smart choices in living healthy, exercising and eating healthy...But this goes back to proper education (another filthy socialist idea).






Best post in the thread.   Excellant.   8)
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2009, 06:22:54 AM

Unless you're in the business of copy editing, then blanket statements like mine are totally warranted. As I explained why.


No. A typo can mean a dozen things. None of which equate to intelligence or work ethic.

1. Broken spellchecker that gives them the wrong spelling.
2. Misprint
3. Dyslexia
4. Simple lack of ability to spell certain words.

Typical liberal.  You want to tell me and others how to run a business when you yourself have never even run a lemonade stand yourself.

I deal with people of all education levels and backgrounds all the time.  Where someone went to school does not mean shit to me.  In fact, if I see someone from an ivy league school trying to work for me, they are almost automatically disqualified. 

There are intangible qualities that make a person a good employee or future partner that education alone cannot determine.  I dont want liberal dreamers and know it alls.  I want people with drive, heart, guts, balls, and street smarts.  The book smarts are easy to get.

BTW - I have been in business for 8 years and started with $700.00 to my name and no clients, nothing.

Hold on to your over priced liberal "education" if you wish.  There is a reason your marxist college professor can afford to spout his garbage, its because he/she is not accountable to results.  Liberalism does not work in the real world, and in fact will REALLY not work in the next few years as big companies lay people off and people are going to have to start their own businesses or free lance.

Talk to any business owner and they will confirm most of what I am saying. 
Title: Re: Rush Limbaugh's Speech at CPAC = KKK Rally?
Post by: RagingBull on March 02, 2009, 07:28:37 AM
IMO its no different i can't wait for Keith Olberman to destroy him on Monday! ;D

Liberals always want someone else or the government to take care of things/them.  Why don't you and your GH enhanced intellect refute Rush?
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Dos Equis on March 02, 2009, 07:37:10 AM
Typical liberal.  You want to tell me and others how to run a business when you yourself have never even run a lemonade stand yourself.

I deal with people of all education levels and backgrounds all the time.  Where someone went to school does not mean shit to me.  In fact, if I see someone from an ivy league school trying to work for me, they are almost automatically disqualified. 

There are intangible qualities that make a person a good employee or future partner that education alone cannot determine.  I dont want liberal dreamers and know it alls.  I want people with drive, heart, guts, balls, and street smarts.  The book smarts are easy to get.

BTW - I have been in business for 8 years and started with $700.00 to my name and no clients, nothing.

Hold on to your over priced liberal "education" if you wish.  There is a reason your marxist college professor can afford to spout his garbage, its because he/she is not accountable to results.  Liberalism does not work in the real world, and in fact will REALLY not work in the next few years as big companies lay people off and people are going to have to start their own businesses or free lance.

Talk to any business owner and they will confirm most of what I am saying. 

Truth.  I have to steal the lemonade stand line.   :)
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2009, 07:45:50 AM
I truly feel bad for these liberal dreamers as reality is realing starting to bite down hard. 

They are ill-equipped metally, intellectually, and psychologically to deal with what is coming in the next few years in the economy.  most of these liberal dope addicts on this board have never created a job, never met a payroll, never developed new clients, never started a business, never have been accountable to a bottom line, and HAVE NO EXPERIENCE WHATSOEVER IN BUSINESS!

They think that by blaming their employer for their plight, looking at the "boss" as the enemy, punching the clock at 9 and 5, that they are going to survive this and the economy is going to improve?  All these liberal dreamers offer is shared poverty.

These dreamers will be the first to be let go, and be the last to be hired. 

They are the ones who cheer on BO's redistribution schemes, his welfare schemes, his class warfare garbage, and all the ignorant nonsense that has no basis in reality or fact.

 
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 02, 2009, 08:30:27 AM
Having a drug addict as the face of the GOP is nothing but a plus for the Dems.

Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2009, 08:31:35 AM
Having a drug addict as the face of the GOP is nothing but a plus for the Dems.

Keep up the good work.

You mean like cocaine abusing Obama, pot smoking Clinton & Gore?????
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 02, 2009, 08:36:35 AM
Or drug abusing Palin and little Bush?  Yeah.. like that.

Good thing Rush is so selfish that he will keep himself in the spotlight long enough to motivate another GOP massacre at the polls next year.  After 2006 and 2008... not many left.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2009, 08:38:00 AM
Or drug abusing Palin and little Bush?  Yeah.. like that.

Good thing Rush is so selfish that he will keep himself in the spotlight long enough to motivate another GOP massacre at the polls next year.  After 2006 and 2008... not many left.

Keep dreaming.  When peoples' energy bills go up, AS CONFIRMED YESTERDAY, people are going to looking for dem heads to roll.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: The Coach on March 02, 2009, 08:41:01 AM





Best post in the thread.   Excellant.   8)

Yep, you definitely voted Obama.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: MCWAY on March 02, 2009, 08:45:49 AM

You don't even know what "Socialism" is or what it means. You have this fallacious idea of what socialism is, gleamed from talk radio or conservative television news channels. You have no idea what Socialism is.

You send your kid to a private school? How...exclusionary of you. But the fact of the matter is that you DO rely on government funded things like roads, infrastructure, police, fire, etc.  How would you feel if all roads were tolled? Police and firefighters didn't come unless you could pay them? Schools kicked kids out who's parents cant pay for them?

That's not necessarily exclusionary. In many cases, the private schools provide a better education (and their teachers often get paid LESS than those in public schools).

As for the roads, police, fire dept, etc., you hardly need to hike up taxes the way Obama plans to do so, to take care of these items.

I'm sure you would support this, since you're an absolute idiot. But the fact is that society works on the basis of "cooperation". True cooperation, the kind where roads are built and police and fire fighters are maintained and schools constructed, rely totally on taxing the people and using that money for these things. No society could ever function today in this modern economy if it did not provide free education to all of its children, regardless of income. The children are who will carry the economy in the future, and if they are uneducated (even the one's who can't pay) then that harms the economy. It creates all sorts of problems. The same goes for roads, police, fire, etc.

Education ain't free. Somebody has to pay for it and the simple fact is that we have schools that SUCK, despite major money being spent (in excess of $10,000 per student in some places) on them.

The same ALSO goes for health care. No country can function properly if its people are unhealthy and can not get proper medical attention. Lack of productivity, lack of motivation, lost wages, lost hours, all of this hurts the economy and in turn hurts everyone living in that society. This is why it is required for a modern productive society to provide general healthcare for all of its population. The people are the investment, and if they are sick then it hurts everyone. This isn't a "every man for himself" scenario, because if my neighbor loses and gets sick and can't pay then in the long run it indirectly hurts me and everyone else.

No, it's not a requirement to provide general healthcare. Our society has been productive for decades, without it. To a degree, it is "every man for himself". You are responsible for yourself and your family, not me or Coach. The wise decisions you make will bless you and those under your care; and the foolish decisions you make will hurt you and yours.

As for people being healthy, too many people dig their graves with their knives and forks. That goes back to personal responsibility. There's a fine line between being your brother's keeper and propping up irresponsible people.


Obviously people need to make smart choices in living healthy, exercising and eating healthy...But this goes back to proper education (another filthy socialist idea).

Education is hardly a socialist idea. But education is WORTHLESS without wisdom that leads to smart and practical application. That is what is lacking in our society today. There's more knowledge available today than there has ever been, perhaps, in human history. Yet people are making the most BONE-HEADED decisions ever seen.

We have more gyms, informercials for fitness gadgets, and every "diet" under the sun. Yet, we're fatter than ever. We have the information superhighway; yet (as demonstrated time and time again on this forum), half the people here can barely spell or form a decent sentence.

We can communicate with anyone on the planet, using the phone that's smaller than a candy bar. Yet, we have little-to-no time for our families; hence you see kids acting a fool.

Without wisdom, knowledge simply makes it easier for a society to destroy itself.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: MCWAY on March 02, 2009, 08:50:29 AM
Or drug abusing Palin and little Bush?  Yeah.. like that.

Good thing Rush is so selfish that he will keep himself in the spotlight long enough to motivate another GOP massacre at the polls next year.  After 2006 and 2008... not many left.

That was the exact same thing conservatives thought about this time four years ago, after Dems lost seats in the House and Senate and Bush got re-elected.

Political fortunes can change at the drop of a hat. And, if all this spending doesn't get the job done, the Dems may meet the same fate in 2010 and 2012 that the GOP did in 2006 and 2008.

Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 02, 2009, 09:08:34 AM
Unfortunately - for your analogy and the GOP - the reversal of fortune won't be coming this early.

The GOP has no party.
The GOP has no message.
The GOP has no flag bearer.  Save for Palin, Jindull, and Rush.  Good luck there.
The GOP has no plan.
The GOP has no platform.
The GOP has retiring members coming up that probably wouldn't win their seats back anyway.

The GOP has to first find it's voice and direction before it can find it's way back into Congress.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2009, 09:13:53 AM
Unfortunately - for your analogy and the GOP - the reversal of fortune won't be coming this early.

The GOP has no party.
The GOP has no message.
The GOP has no flag bearer.  Save for Palin, Jindull, and Rush.  Good luck there.
The GOP has no plan.
The GOP has no platform.
The GOP has retiring members coming up that probably wouldn't win their seats back anyway.

The GOP has to first find it's voice and direction before it can find it's way back into Congress.

No plan is better than what Obama is doing.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: MCWAY on March 02, 2009, 10:24:22 AM
Unfortunately - for your analogy and the GOP - the reversal of fortune won't be coming this early.

The GOP has no party.
The GOP has no message.
The GOP has no flag bearer.  Save for Palin, Jindull, and Rush.  Good luck there.
The GOP has no plan.
The GOP has no platform.
The GOP has retiring members coming up that probably wouldn't win their seats back anyway.

The GOP has to first find it's voice and direction before it can find it's way back into Congress.

That voice is being found rather quickly, thanks in part to the actions of the Obama administration.

The message is returning to its roots. Basically, the GOP realized that it got away from its priniciples, which is why they got beat up in '06 and '08.

The Dems didn't have a plan or a platform in 2005, either. The GOP's blundering (sprinkled with political scandals) spelled their defeat. And at the rate the Democrats are going, the exact same thing can happen to them.

We don’t know who will emerge as the “flag bearer” in the GOP. But, that doesn’t necessarily matter. If you had told anyone in 2005 that someone other than Hilary Clinton would emerge as the Democratic nominee for the 2008 election, you would have been sent to urinalysis.

The Dems eventually got one; but, it wasn’t the one heavily advertised. We could see a candidate come out of the blue and turn the tide. You will recall that it wasn't until McCain picked Palin that he actually started surging ahead of Obama in the polls. Unfortunately, the economic crisis (and McCain's reaction to it) spelled his doom.



We don't know what the political future may hold. But, to suggest that the Dems have a lock on the White House, Congress, or the Senate is rather silly. We've seen the shift happen before (just a few years ago), and if this stimulus causes more problems than it's supposed to solve, the Democrats might be flying out of office in the same fashion as the GOP did.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2009, 10:26:27 AM
I think once people get higher energy bills, higher gas bills, and get higher taxes that they were lied into believing they would not have, than the SHTF.

Again, please explain to me one benefit of a cap and trade scheme like is being discussed?  Give me one????

 
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 02, 2009, 11:31:49 AM
That voice is being found rather quickly, thanks in part to the actions of the Obama administration.

What voice is that?  (We can't do shit here).  Who is speaking it?  (Rush)

The message is returning to its roots. Basically, the GOP realized that it got away from its priniciples, which is why they got beat up in '06 and '08.

Sorry, but mainstream America is withdrawing from the "roots" because quite simply, there are none.  Unless of course you account for the religious right and their core beliefs which is a shrinking base and only alienate the potential moderates in their own party.

The Dems didn't have a plan or a platform in 2005, either. The GOP's blundering (sprinkled with political scandals) spelled their defeat. And at the rate the Democrats are going, the exact same thing can happen to them.

Not while the GOP is still having the exact same political scandals.  Unless that old broken record turns, there will be no one left to try to hold onto a Repub seat. 

We don’t know who will emerge as the “flag bearer” in the GOP. But, that doesn’t necessarily matter. If you had told anyone in 2005 that someone other than Hilary Clinton would emerge as the Democratic nominee for the 2008 election, you would have been sent to urinalysis.

Best be getting one and quickly then.  Palin failed.  The last attempt at grooming Jindull failed like the Titanic crossing.  Running out of potential candidates here you know...

The Dems eventually got one; but, it wasn’t the one heavily advertised. We could see a candidate come out of the blue and turn the tide. You will recall that it wasn't until McCain picked Palin that he actually started surging ahead of Obama in the polls. Unfortunately, the economic crisis (and McCain's reaction to it) spelled his doom.

Actually you are incorrect.  It was Palin that turned the tide for McCain to go in a downward spiral.  She was a buffoon that sank the entire campaign every time she opened her mouth.  The gamble for Hillary votes failed miserably. 


We don't know what the political future may hold. But, to suggest that the Dems have a lock on the White House, Congress, or the Senate is rather silly. We've seen the shift happen before (just a few years ago), and if this stimulus causes more problems than it's supposed to solve, the Democrats might be flying out of office in the same fashion as the GOP did.

Not any time soon.  You can't win a seat without a candidate or message that drawers the voters to the polls, and so far the entire GOP is directionless, blowing in the wind, and fighting among themselves. 

And that is that.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2009, 11:39:23 AM
And that is that.

Dude, take you knee pads off and put away your KY for a minute. 

BO, or ZERO as many people correctly call him, was not elected to raise energy taxes on everyone who turns on a light bulb, bankrupt the nation with trillions in wasteful spending, and enact college marxist professors' wet dreams.  He was not elected to crash the stock market and wage war against most peoples' employers. 

If you really believe that, you are dead wrong and this marxist fraud will lose the congress next year.  Even worse, your girl Palin will be presdient in 2012 because the people will be begging for anyone other than this empty suit marxist dreamer president we have right now.   
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Dos Equis on March 02, 2009, 02:31:56 PM
That voice is being found rather quickly, thanks in part to the actions of the Obama administration.

The message is returning to its roots. Basically, the GOP realized that it got away from its priniciples, which is why they got beat up in '06 and '08.

The Dems didn't have a plan or a platform in 2005, either. The GOP's blundering (sprinkled with political scandals) spelled their defeat. And at the rate the Democrats are going, the exact same thing can happen to them.

We don’t know who will emerge as the “flag bearer” in the GOP. But, that doesn’t necessarily matter. If you had told anyone in 2005 that someone other than Hilary Clinton would emerge as the Democratic nominee for the 2008 election, you would have been sent to urinalysis.

The Dems eventually got one; but, it wasn’t the one heavily advertised. We could see a candidate come out of the blue and turn the tide. You will recall that it wasn't until McCain picked Palin that he actually started surging ahead of Obama in the polls. Unfortunately, the economic crisis (and McCain's reaction to it) spelled his doom.



We don't know what the political future may hold. But, to suggest that the Dems have a lock on the White House, Congress, or the Senate is rather silly. We've seen the shift happen before (just a few years ago), and if this stimulus causes more problems than it's supposed to solve, the Democrats might be flying out of office in the same fashion as the GOP did.

I agree.  The Dem takeover in 06 wasn't about their strong message, rejection of conservatism, etc., it was about two things:  the war in Iraq and Bush's unpopularity. 

We'll see what kind of coattails Obama has in 2012.  He has gotten off to a reckless start with the insane spending, but he still has time to be more responsible.  If not, I think the voters will send a message in 2012.

And it is silly for either side to be declaring victory in 2012.  Way too much can happen before then.     
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Deicide on March 02, 2009, 02:37:34 PM
Rush is a fucking joke, a pale mockery of what a Ron Paul is...
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2009, 02:43:24 PM
Rush is a fucking joke, a pale mockery of what a Ron Paul is...

Rush has 20 million listeners, hundreds of millions in the bank, 600 stations, and can do wahtever he wants.

Like Reggie Jackson once said - rush is the straw that sirs the drink.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Deicide on March 02, 2009, 02:44:26 PM
Rush has 20 million listeners, hundreds of millions in the bank, 600 stations, and can do wahtever he wants.

Like Reggie Jackson once said - rush is the straw that sirs the drink.

Sad as hell!
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2009, 02:51:57 PM
Sad as hell!

I dont disagree, however his prominence at CPAC says more about lack of good GOP candidates than it does limbaugh. 

If Sarah Palin had RP knoweldge and delivery, she would be a force of nature.  I think in her heart she agrees with a lot of what he says, its just that she is not as versed as RP is in these issues.

The problem right now is that RP is too old.  If he could do the graph thing like Perot sdid, I think he would be getting a bit further than he is now.   
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: liberalismo on March 02, 2009, 06:30:54 PM
Yes, we need to pay taxes for necessities like infrastructure, local gov, police & fire, etc but Obama is setting up an extended government system where, in general, he will take more in taxes to pay for more government that takes and provides more goods and services.
I feel like his policies swing too far left, whereas, people are not being encouraged to change poor decision making and maladaptive behavior.  I believe in supporting the disadvantage with programs that assist them but I do not agree with creating more people dependent upon the system.  This is what Obama is creating.  Also, today its higher taxes on families making over 250K but I assure you that if he carries through on the vast goals he set forth in the last couple weeks, either our taxes will go up, we have inflation, or our money will become devalued.  We cannot pay for all the things Obama wants to do.

That's a whole nother topic. Getting people to change their decision making.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: liberalismo on March 02, 2009, 06:39:45 PM
Typical liberal.  You want to tell me and others how to run a business when you yourself have never even run a lemonade stand yourself.


Hey Asshole! You don't know if I've ever run a lemonade stand!



I deal with people of all education levels and backgrounds all the time.  Where someone went to school does not mean shit to me.  In fact, if I see someone from an ivy league school trying to work for me, they are almost automatically disqualified. 


Dumber and dumber...

There are intangible qualities that make a person a good employee or future partner that education alone cannot determine.  I dont want liberal dreamers and know it alls.  I want people with drive, heart, guts, balls, and street smarts.  The book smarts are easy to get.

If book smarts are so easy to get...Then why the fuck are you so lacking?

BTW - I have been in business for 8 years and started with $700.00 to my name and no clients, nothing.

Hold on to your over priced liberal "education" if you wish.  There is a reason your marxist college professor can afford to spout his garbage, its because he/she is not accountable to results.  Liberalism does not work in the real world, and in fact will REALLY not work in the next few years as big companies lay people off and people are going to have to start their own businesses or free lance.

Talk to any business owner and they will confirm most of what I am saying. 


Just like Coach doesn't know what socialism is, You don't know what liberalism is either. It's a random and vague derogatory putdown that you use as synonymous with "stupid" or something you disagree with.

It's like this:

Ah, That asshole at work disrespected me..That damn liberal!

These people pulled out in front of me! Those damn liberals!

Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: liberalismo on March 02, 2009, 06:41:52 PM
That's not necessarily exclusionary. In many cases, the private schools provide a better education (and their teachers often get paid LESS than those in public schools).

As for the roads, police, fire dept, etc., you hardly need to hike up taxes the way Obama plans to do so, to take care of these items.

Education ain't free. Somebody has to pay for it and the simple fact is that we have schools that SUCK, despite major money being spent (in excess of $10,000 per student in some places) on them.
 
No, it's not a requirement to provide general healthcare. Our society has been productive for decades, without it. To a degree, it is "every man for himself". You are responsible for yourself and your family, not me or Coach. The wise decisions you make will bless you and those under your care; and the foolish decisions you make will hurt you and yours.

As for people being healthy, too many people dig their graves with their knives and forks. That goes back to personal responsibility. There's a fine line between being your brother's keeper and propping up irresponsible people.


Education is hardly a socialist idea. But education is WORTHLESS without wisdom that leads to smart and practical application. That is what is lacking in our society today. There's more knowledge available today than there has ever been, perhaps, in human history. Yet people are making the most BONE-HEADED decisions ever seen.

We have more gyms, informercials for fitness gadgets, and every "diet" under the sun. Yet, we're fatter than ever. We have the information superhighway; yet (as demonstrated time and time again on this forum), half the people here can barely spell or form a decent sentence.

We can communicate with anyone on the planet, using the phone that's smaller than a candy bar. Yet, we have little-to-no time for our families; hence you see kids acting a fool.

Without wisdom, knowledge simply makes it easier for a society to destroy itself.



The post was in response to Coach, and I expect Coach to respond to it.

I'd respond to you, but I don't respond to people who say that they would murder 2 year old girls if God told them to.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: shootfighter1 on March 02, 2009, 07:32:19 PM
Thanks for reading my post liberalismo, it seemed to get glossed over and I thought it highlighted some important points.

I don't care for the back and forth party line arguing.  Whats happening right now is so serious, there's no time for the back and forth fighting.  IMO the spending, bailouts, proposed increases in gov programs, spending and limiting our personal freedoms is extremely scary.  I had some hope for Obama but every conservative, moderate democrats and libertarians should be appauled right now.  This excessive spending is way out of control.  Government can only help the economy so much.  The consequences of outrageous debts, increased overall taxation, increased dependency on gov programs, and gov limiting personal freedom are too much to pay for the questionable stimulation the spending may have. Some of these far left democratic ideas being tossed around right now are very Orwelian.  Scary.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: liberalismo on March 02, 2009, 07:37:01 PM
Thanks for reading my post liberalismo, it seemed to get glossed over and I thought it highlighted some important points.

I don't care for the back and forth party line arguing.  Whats happening right now is so serious, there's no time for the back and forth fighting.  IMO the spending, bailouts, proposed increases in gov programs, spending and limiting our personal freedoms is extremely scary.  I had some hope for Obama but every conservative, moderate democrats and libertarians should be appauled right now.  Some of these far left democratic ideas being tossed around right now are very Orwelian.  Scary.


Most of the things Obama is doing right now aren't really things that the Democratic party would have done anyway. They are things that Obama thinks are best based on his knowledge and advising. Republicans have done all of the same things in the past. The bailout scale is a bit larger here because the problem is larger, but the methods are nothing new.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2009, 07:40:46 PM

Most of the things Obama is doing right now aren't really things that the Democratic party would have done anyway. They are things that Obama thinks are best based on his knowledge and advising. Republicans have done all of the same things in the past. The bailout scale is a bit larger here because the problem is larger, but the methods are nothing new.

When was the last time the GOP proposed a 660 billion a year energy tax on people and businesses?

When was the last time the GOP raised domestic spending to levels not seen since 1944?

GWB was a reckless maniac w spending, but Obama is just GWB on roids as far as spending goes.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: shootfighter1 on March 02, 2009, 07:42:36 PM
See, I don't dislike Obama.  Actually, I'd love to sit down and talk with him.  I agree in your assessment that he is doing what he thinks is right for the country but I propose these ideas are less mainstream and more a product of some of his liberal and socialist mentors that shaped his thinking.  There is no doubt that Obama believes in some redistribution and some increase in the governments control of the production and allocation of goods and services to whom they believe need it most.  Your right, these are not all new ideas but no one has pushed them so hard, and so fast before.  I don't remember Carter though I hear from some older people that Obama reminds them a lot of Carter (not good).  The only democratice president I remember well is Clinton and though he shared some of the same ideas, he was far, far more of a centrist, as I was hoping Obama would be.  I suppose we should have known him better prior to voting.

Socialism isn't necessarily all bad, but it will not work well outside the halls of academia.  Conversely, I don't believe unchecked capitalism is without major problems.  IMO he is swinging too far left on multiple issues and cramming them through so quickly without enough real debate and discussion.  I think many people who voted for him did not expect this.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2009, 07:45:59 PM
See, I don't dislike Obama.  Actually, I'd love to sit down and talk with him.  I agree in your assessment that he is doing what he thinks is right for the country but I propose these ideas are less mainstream and more a product of some of his liberal and socialist mentors that shaped his thinking.  There is no doubt that Obama believes in some redistribution and some increase in the governments control of the production and allocation of goods and services to whom they believe need it most.
Socialism isn't necessarily all bad, but it will not work well outside the halls of academia.  Conversely, I don't believe unchecked capitalism is without major problems.  IMO he is swinging too far left on multiple issues and cramming them through so quickly without enough real debate and discussion.  I think many people who voted for him did not expect this.

Obama and Geithner are making things worse:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/29468601

Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: liberalismo on March 02, 2009, 10:01:43 PM
When was the last time the GOP proposed a 660 billion a year energy tax on people and businesses?

When was the last time the GOP raised domestic spending to levels not seen since 1944?

GWB was a reckless maniac w spending, but Obama is just GWB on roids as far as spending goes.

You have a reading comprehension problem don't you?
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: MCWAY on March 03, 2009, 04:48:08 AM
And that is that.



What voice is that?  (We can't do shit here).  Who is speaking it?  (Rush)[/quote]

Rush Limbaugh doesn't lead the GOP. The liberals want to paint him as such, in hopes of securing their own political fortunes.


Sorry, but mainstream America is withdrawing from the "roots" because quite simply, there are none.  Unless of course you account for the religious right and their core beliefs which is a shrinking base and only alienate the potential moderates in their own party.

Mainstream America wants the economy fixed. If Obama and his administration can't do that, they will be shown the door.


Not while the GOP is still having the exact same political scandals.  Unless that old broken record turns, there will be no one left to try to hold onto a Repub seat. 

Scandals are on BOTH sides of the aisle. But those among the party in power get highlighted more.


Best be getting one and quickly then.  Palin failed.  The last attempt at grooming Jindull failed like the Titanic crossing.  Running out of potential candidates here you know...

One response to a presidental speech hardly spells the end for the political career of Bobby Jindal (and that's under the gross assumption that he was being "groomed" to be the 2012 candidate, anyway). The point you missed was Clinton was "groomed" to be the 2008 candidate. But, guess who's the President now.


Actually you are incorrect.  It was Palin that turned the tide for McCain to go in a downward spiral.  She was a buffoon that sank the entire campaign every time she opened her mouth.  The gamble for Hillary votes failed miserably. 

In what bizarro world were you, during the campaign. McCain did NOT surge ahead of Obama in the polls, until he picked Palin, because she did the one thing that he could not do: Energize the base of conservatives. McCain's doom came as a result of the economic crisis. He seemed to have no answer for it. And, since Obama did (or at least, appeared to do so), he got the momentum back and won it all.



Not any time soon.  You can't win a seat without a candidate or message that drawers the voters to the polls, and so far the entire GOP is directionless, blowing in the wind, and fighting among themselves. 

And, unless you start that revisionist history again, you will note that the Democrats were in the EXACT SAME SPOT four years ago: Reeling from losses in the House and Senate and the re-election of "W".



Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Hedgehog on March 03, 2009, 05:42:23 AM


And, unless you start that revisionist history again, you will note that the Democrats were in the EXACT SAME SPOT four years ago: Reeling from losses in the House and Senate and the re-election of "W".






I thought you supported George Bush?

Even voted for him twice?
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: muscleforlife on March 03, 2009, 05:48:58 AM
I dont disagree, however his prominence at CPAC says more about lack of good GOP candidates than it does limbaugh. 

If Sarah Palin had RP knoweldge and delivery, she would be a force of nature.  I think in her heart she agrees with a lot of what he says, its just that she is not as versed as RP is in these issues.

The problem right now is that RP is too old.  If he could do the graph thing like Perot sdid, I think he would be getting a bit further than he is now.   

Where were palin and jindal?  I thought cpac was about taking getting the party back together...
I don't like the idea of Rush wishing the president fails.  Hell, that means if the leader fails, we all as a country.

Changing topic slightly....is there a death pool with Rush in it?
He looks like a heart attack waiting to happen.
Sandra
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 03, 2009, 05:49:50 AM

I thought you supported George Bush?

Even voted for him twice?

how many times do you people need to hear this - no one is defending Bush around here yet you clown still want to roll out that tired carnard.  

GWB was a disaster, however that does not mean it is ok for Obama to be worse and be GWB on roids.  Obama is GWB's third term on fiscal issues, but much much worse.

There is not even one responsible or sensible person on CNBC/bloomberg/WJS/IBD supporting Obama and what he is doing.  

Cramer even called him a radical communist last night on his show.  I posted the link.

ZERO is pushing a radical ideological agenda devoid of any responsiblity, sanity, common sense, or trasck record of success.

Shit - the fool never even had a job in his life before this one.  
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: muscleforlife on March 03, 2009, 05:55:38 AM
After Bush, this country knows that we are in deep, deep trouble.
Obama is doing unprecedented things to stimulate this economic disaster that is also unprecedented.

I have no clue as to how to get things right and running again.
For those who bitch and moan about where we are going economically, what would you do?

We know the Bush administrations' plan didn't work.
We are watching the Obama administration spending in numbers that are unreal.

No one seems to have a definitive answer as how to stop the downward spiral.

So, if any of you have an idea the economists, strategists and corporations haven't come up with to stop the bleeding, do speak up!
Sandra
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 03, 2009, 06:04:32 AM
After Bush, this country knows that we are in deep, deep trouble.
Obama is doing unprecedented things to stimulate this economic disaster that is also unprecedented.

I have no clue as to how to get things right and running again.
For those who bitch and moan about where we are going economically, what would you do?

We know the Bush administrations' plan didn't work.
We are watching the Obama administration spending in numbers that are unreal.

No one seems to have a definitive answer as how to stop the downward spiral.

So, if any of you have an idea the economists, strategists and corporations haven't come up with to stop the bleeding, do speak up!
Sandra

Good question - let me put this in a way you will understand.

Lets say you lose your job or have your hours cut substantially (Current economic situation).  Lets say you still have some income coming in, but not like what you had (gross Federal tax receipts)  You were living high on the hog, buying goods going out to dinner a few times a week, bought a boat, etc. (War on Iraq/Entitlements/Medicaid/Medicair/Illegal aliens etc) 

You have alot of existing debt, but have a good credit score and your creditors are not afraid of your ability to pay it back because you have always made the minimum payment. (China and those who lend us $$$)

What do you do?

1.  Look where you can trim your expenses and lifestyle to meet your new income reality while looking for a new job?

2.  Keep your lifestyle as is until your cash runs out?

3.  Go out on a spending spree on your credit cards on new suits/shoes/cosmetic surgery/jewelry etc for your new job search because you think by making youerself look better you will be able to get a better job and replensish your income????
   
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Take a guess what we are doing now?
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: muscleforlife on March 03, 2009, 06:39:19 AM
Good question - let me put this in a way you will understand.

Lets say you lose your job or have your hours cut substantially (Current economic situation).  Lets say you still have some income coming in, but not like what you had (gross Federal tax receipts)  You were living high on the hog, buying goods going out to dinner a few times a week, bought a boat, etc. (War on Iraq/Entitlements/Medicaid/Medicair/Illegal aliens etc) 

You have alot of existing debt, but have a good credit score and your creditors are not afraid of your ability to pay it back because you have always made the minimum payment. (China and those who lend us $$$)

What do you do?

1.  Look where you can trim your expenses and lifestyle to meet your new income reality while looking for a new job?

2.  Keep your lifestyle as is until your cash runs out?

3.  Go out on a spending spree on your credit cards on new suits/shoes/cosmetic surgery/jewelry etc for your new job search because you think by making youerself look better you will be able to get a better job and replensish your income????
   
________________________ ______________

Take a guess what we are doing now?

On a personal side, I will cut back on expenses, look for a job in Mcdonald&burgerking&anywhere else to keep my children feed.

On a global side, it is quite different, not only do you have to cut expenses to the bone, you have to get the economy going so that the people don't run to the banks pulling money out and stuffing the mattresses.
So, say the gov. cuts expenses and the bleeding doesn't stop?  No buying of bad mortgages, no corporation bailouts, everybody sink or swim.
What do you think would happen on a national scale?
I am all for personal responsibility.  I actually didn't want corporations bailed out,  I wanted to see capitalism at work.
Sandra
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 03, 2009, 07:00:30 AM
On a personal side, I will cut back on expenses, look for a job in Mcdonald&burgerking&anywhere else to keep my children feed.

On a global side, it is quite different, not only do you have to cut expenses to the bone, you have to get the economy going so that the people don't run to the banks pulling money out and stuffing the mattresses.
So, say the gov. cuts expenses and the bleeding doesn't stop?  No buying of bad mortgages, no corporation bailouts, everybody sink or swim.
What do you think would happen on a national scale?
I am all for personal responsibility.  I actually didn't want corporations bailed out,  I wanted to see capitalism at work.
Sandra

if you let people have more of their own money back and dont hammer them with taxes, people will shore up their finances, which will help the banks.

By saving $$$, people will strengthen the banks.

We are in this mess because of too few savings and too much spending on credit. 
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: MCWAY on March 03, 2009, 09:38:06 AM

I thought you supported George Bush?

Even voted for him twice?

I did. But, that's not the point of my previous statements.

The gist of my posts was to inform Lurker that it was just four years ago that the roles of the GOP and Democratic party were REVERSED. At this time 4 years ago, the Dems were bitter, divided, and in a royal mess. They were making excuses for two straight defeats (losses in the House and Senate in '02, followed by more of such in '04, and especially with "W" getting re-elected).

The Dems had no idea what they were doing or where they were going. Yet, they won in 2006, because the GOP started acting a fool with the finances, betraying the very fiscally conservative principles, which they were supposed to uphold.

If all this spending causes more grief than it solves problems, contrary to Lurker's wacky belief, the Dems may on the receiving end of the same political beating in '10 that the GOP took in '06.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 03, 2009, 09:49:09 AM





Rush Limbaugh doesn't lead the GOP. The liberals want to paint him as such, in hopes of securing their own political fortunes.

If that is the case, then it would be wise to find a voice very soon.  After all, Rush said he is too ashamed of the GOP to even think of being it's voice.  HAHAHA  The only spokesperson  that side has doesn't even look favorable on the current crop.  Sad.

Mainstream America wants the economy fixed. If Obama and his administration can't do that, they will be shown the door.

And if they do, guess who didn't vote for it.  Yep, same party currently being shown the door.

Scandals are on BOTH sides of the aisle. But those among the party in power get highlighted more.

Actually, there were over twice as many from 2004-2008 on the Repub side.  I would even say 4x as many.   Which exposed your party as nothing more than closet queers and pedophiles. 

One response to a presidental speech hardly spells the end for the political career of Bobby Jindal (and that's under the gross assumption that he was being "groomed" to be the 2012 candidate, anyway). The point you missed was Clinton was "groomed" to be the 2008 candidate. But, guess who's the President now.

Oh you deny that he was being groomed?  Well I guess AFTER his little robotic sing song Sesame Street speech that won't be the case anymore.

In what bizarro world were you, during the campaign. McCain did NOT surge ahead of Obama in the polls, until he picked Palin, because she did the one thing that he could not do: Energize the base of conservatives. McCain's doom came as a result of the economic crisis. He seemed to have no answer for it. And, since Obama did (or at least, appeared to do so), he got the momentum back and won it all.

Bullshit.  McCain was already falling back down in the polls BEFORE the economic crisis simply from Palin getting pwned by 3rd grade questions in the Katie interview.  Even without the economic crisis Palin had turned off the moderate voters wtih her backwooded hillbilly logic and beliefs.

And, unless you start that revisionist history again, you will note that the Democrats were in the EXACT SAME SPOT four years ago: Reeling from losses in the House and Senate and the re-election of "W".

And that amounted to WHAT?  An ending to Dubyas  term where even his own party started distancing themselves from his loser ways at the end.  When your own party rejects you, that says a lot.  Don't exactly see this happening to Obama.


Thing is.. the market WILL come back.  No doubt about that.  It is just a matter of waiting.  No matter what happens or what actions are taken, when it rebounds within in the next 4 years, all credit and applause are going to Obama and the Dems.  The GOP can't even find a direction to face and they are going to have an answer for THAT?   Don't think so.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 03, 2009, 09:51:28 AM
I did. But, that's not the point of my previous statements.

If you voted for Bush twice but hate spending, then you really hate yourself.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 03, 2009, 09:51:44 AM
Cramer said last night that the market will not come back so long as Obama and Pelosi are in control and that they will destroy everything they touch.

Jim Cramer is a democrat and even he called Obama and Pelosi radical communists last night on his show.  

More and more people are seeing the light about this marxist fraud in the WH, and soon you will too.  
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 03, 2009, 09:53:15 AM
If you voted for Bush twice but hate spending, then you really hate yourself.

You voted for Obama and claim to be anti- religious right and govt-church in bed with each other.  considering he is expanding the faith based iniiative office - do you hate yourself????
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: MCWAY on March 03, 2009, 10:08:27 AM
You voted for Obama and claim to be anti- religious right and govt-church in bed with each other.  considering he is expanding the faith based iniiative office - do you hate yourself????

Not to mention that, at least on the surface, he opposes gay “marriage”.

Anti-government-church in bed with each other??? If that's the case, Lurker may as well not vote at all, as nearly EVERY presidental candidate does the standard "Praise-the-Lord-and-vote-for-me" routine during the election campaign. Dems especially love hitting the black churches.

Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 03, 2009, 10:12:54 AM
You voted for Obama and claim to be anti- religious right and govt-church in bed with each other.  considering he is expanding the faith based iniiative office - do you hate yourself????

I made neither of those claims.  LOL!  Nice try.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 03, 2009, 10:16:24 AM
Not to mention that, at least on the surface, he opposes gay “marriage”.

Anti-government-church in bed with each other??? If that's the case, Lurker may as well not vote at all, as nearly EVERY presidental candidate does the standard "Praise-the-Lord-and-vote-for-me" routine during the election campaign. Dems especially love hitting the black churches.



Too bad your post is irrelevant as stated before I never made those claims.  Nice stretch though... but reaching that far still didn't accomplish anything.

LOL @ ignoring the Repubs actions of "God wants me to be President", "God told me to invade Iraq", "We are on a holy mission in Iraq".

Now that is really catering to the religious idiots.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 03, 2009, 10:18:53 AM
I made neither of those claims.  LOL!  Nice try.

I am going to truly laugh my ass off at all the fools who make over 250k a year who voted for this "Radical communist" as Jim Cramer caleld him now that the new SS tax hike is being announced.

Not only is Obama raising their income tax, but now he is raising the SS tax as well.  

Honestly, I dont see where the "brilliance, intelligence, and thoughtfulness" is in Obama if he thinks this is going to work.

All that is going to happen is people like myself are going to make sure we are always under that cap and not subject to his success tax.

If he ever had a real job or spent a day with an announce of responsiblity in a business, he would know this.    
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 03, 2009, 10:22:24 AM
Still didn't address why you thought I made those claims huh?

Typical.  Throw bullshit around since facts and logic are not available to you in hopes that something will stick.  When it doesn't, just ignore and move to the next pile of bullshit to throw.

Hard to make a statement that doesn't sound like a 3 year old in a temper tantrum.

So let's see what you can make up and claim I said next.
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 03, 2009, 10:24:11 AM
Still didn't address why you thought I made those claims huh?

Typical.  Throw bullshit around since facts and logic are not available to you in hopes that something will stick.  When it doesn't, just ignore and move to the next pile of bullshit to throw.

Hard to make a statement that doesn't sound like a 3 year old in a temper tantrum.

So let's see what you can make up and claim I said next.

Damn right I am having a tantrum.  This "Radical Communist" is destroying the wealth of millions of people single handildy. with his war on wealth and the private economy. 
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: MCWAY on March 03, 2009, 10:29:49 AM
Too bad your post is irrelevant as stated before I never made those claims.  Nice stretch though... but reaching that far still didn't accomplish anything.

LOL @ ignoring the Repubs actions of "God wants me to be President", "God told me to invade Iraq", "We are on a holy mission in Iraq".

Now that is really catering to the religious idiots.

What part of "IF that's the case...." don't you understand? But, based on your previous posts, 33386's claim may have some merit to it.

And, it appears you also don't grasp the "EVERY PRESIDENTAL CANDIDATE does the standard "Praise-the-Lord-and-vote-for-me" routine during the election campaign" part of my statement. That would include Republicans.

As for "catering to religious idiots", again you're engaging in that old liberal tradition of revisionist history. It was around this time in 2005 that Dems were blaming the evangelicals (especially in light of the 11 marriage amendments passed on election day) for Bush getting re-elected. But, guess what they ended up doing........."Catering" to those same "religious idiots" in order to swing the votes their way. Wasn't it Howard Dean who kept flapping his gums about how Democrats needed to reach out more to evangelical voters?

Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: Straw Man on March 03, 2009, 10:37:26 AM
Bahahahah - did anyone hear that bloated, drug addict thinking he was quoting the Constitution when really he was mis-quoting the Declaration of Indepence.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=219518&title=cpac-after-party
Title: Re: Rush Tells It Like It Is At Televised CPAC
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 03, 2009, 10:48:49 AM
The abundance of frustration displayed here amuses me.