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When I was a young fella I wasn't always the nicest to ugly people or fat people or whatever. At about 18 I decided I had a lot of making up to do and changed my ways concerning that. Anyways, my New Years resolution was to make 3 random people who seem depressed/neglected feel just a little bit better about themselves everyday. It's always simple, could be telling our chubby secretary I like her outfit, telling the overweight waitress she has pretty eyes or telling the garbageman I really appreciate his hard work, whatever. Since then things have gotten better for me financially and to a cetain extent socially. Karma or coincidence?
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i used to laugh about it... but as I've gotten older, I've found the exact shit I teased ppl about has come back to me. I had a guitarist who had tendonitis, years ago. I clowned him in front of chicks, etc, when he couldn't play. It wasn't as funny when i got tendonitis and it was horrible pain to play. Stuff comes around in life, definitely.
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Yes, I believe in Karma. Strongly, I might add.
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i hope it exist yes, actually try to treat people like i want to be treated myself.
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i hope it exist yes, actually try to treat people like i want to be treated myself.
Amen. Except whores. Whores need to suffer.
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Yeah, caldmore is an area close to my house. Karma, no.
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I once got a lap dance from a girl named Karma :)
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When I was a young fella I wasn't always the nicest to ugly people or fat people or whatever. At about 18 I decided I had a lot of making up to do and changed my ways concerning that. Anyways, my New Years resolution was to make 3 random people who seem depressed/neglected feel just a little bit better about themselves everyday. It's always simple, could be telling our chubby secretary I like her outfit, telling the overweight waitress she has pretty eyes or telling the garbageman I really appreciate his hard work, whatever. Since then things have gotten better for me financially and to a cetain extent socially. Karma or coincidence?
The orginal mean of Karma is simply "Causality and Effect".
If you say some beautiful things to another people,you feel good and you feel yourself living in the positive world.
And this feeling makes you positive(without notice:under conciousness) and you do good thing to you without notice.
Nothing special..
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Karma is real. It's all energy.
All that we are is the result of what we have thought.
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When I was a young fella I wasn't always the nicest to ugly people or fat people or whatever. At about 18 I decided I had a lot of making up to do and changed my ways concerning that. Anyways, my New Years resolution was to make 3 random people who seem depressed/neglected feel just a little bit better about themselves everyday. It's always simple, could be telling our chubby secretary I like her outfit, telling the overweight waitress she has pretty eyes or telling the garbageman I really appreciate his hard work, whatever. Since then things have gotten better for me financially and to a cetain extent socially. Karma or coincidence?
It's called growing up. And the idea of karma is a repulsive to me, since it is selfishness defined. You do better because you fear repercussion later on, not because you genuinely want to help people. Kinda like religious people claiming there would be no morals without a god.
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It's called growing up. And the idea of karma is a repulsive to me, since it is selfishness defined. You do better because you fear repercussion later on, not because you genuinely want to help people. Kinda like religious people claiming there would be no morals without a god.
Man stfu
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Karma is real. It's all energy.
All that we are is the result of what we have thought.
More than real. Karma is the existance itself.
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i absolutely believe in it
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It's called growing up. And the idea of karma is a repulsive to me, since it is selfishness defined. You do better because you fear repercussion later on, not because you genuinely want to help people. Kinda like religious people claiming there would be no morals without a god.
You need to inform yourself on this matter, because it has nothing to do with selfishness or fear.
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I believe in karma...
Why go out of one's way to make life miserable for another human being? What is the purpose?
It's not about 'fear' or Heaven or Hell, it's about feeling happy about yourself and generating a positive energy in everything you do and to those around you.
People generate energy. Everything is comprised of energy.
And others can sense your energy, what some might call an 'aura' I guess.
Deliberately hurting others...is just hurting yourself really.
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i like my karma in strawberry flavor.
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Sounds like someone found Earl as in My name is Earl :P
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It's called growing up. And the idea of karma is a repulsive to me, since it is selfishness defined. You do better because you fear repercussion later on, not because you genuinely want to help people. Kinda like religious people claiming there would be no morals without a god.
I don't fear repercussions, I just think it's an extremely easy thing to do to take a few seconds out of your day to make someone feel better about themselves if even for only a few moments.
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I don't fear repercussions, I just think it's an extremely easy thing to do to take a few seconds out of your day to make someone feel better about themselves if even for only a few moments.
On a serious side note:
I like your posts, danielson. Even if make fun of you sometimes, it's not meant in a bad way! Getbig is a better palce because of your great humor and you have made my day many times! Have a great weekend, danielson!
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On a serious side note:
I like your posts, danielson. Even if make fun of you sometimes, it's not meant in a bad way! Getbig is a better palce because of your great humor and you have made my day many times! Have a great weekend, danielson!
Thanks DK, you too :)
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I have 3 friends that died before the age of 22.
All of them were Super nice guys.
So no.
Fuck karma and his mother.
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I believe in Karma. No doubt it's true. Can't wait till I get mine evened out so I can live the good life.
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I have 3 friends that died before the age of 22.
All of them were Super nice guys.
So no.
Fuck karma and his mother.
Well im a total prick and still alive at 26 Swede,maybe I should start giving a little back
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Well im a total prick and still alive at 26 Swede,maybe I should start giving a little back
maybe getbig changed your life?
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But im a prick on getbig too ;D
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I don't fear repercussions, I just think it's an extremely easy thing to do to take a few seconds out of your day to make someone feel better about themselves if even for only a few moments.
Well, to make it short karma is about some type of "higher energy" making sure you get what you deserve according to whatever standards society has at that particular time. What some people might call "bad karma" today may not have been the case 100 years ago which just furthers adds proof that it is nothing but old philosophical thinking being pushed as some new-age bullshit.
What you've done is just become a nicer person and that's great! I just think it's unnecessary to invoke any type of "karma" in to that.
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Your Karma Will Run Over Your Dogma: How Karma Works
Sooner or Later, You're Dancin' With the Reaper
We are Karma Chameleons. While on Earth, you are living in the worlds of reincarnation and karma. Believe it or not, karma begins & ends with love.
Karma begins to propel you as Soul on a personal journey through the universe. Karma ends when you have perfected yourself in your ability to love.
So What is Karma? As Soul you are eternal. You have past, present, and future lives. To grow in love, joy, and awareness, you reincarnate into a series of physical bodies to experience different existences. You have been or will be both sexes and all races, religions, and ethnic types throughout many lifetimes.
Karma Defined: Karma means that "as you sow, so also shall you reap" in this and other lifetimes until you understand the complete consequences of all your actions. Karma is the principle of cause and effect, action and reaction, total cosmic justice and personal responsibility.
The 4 Different "Flavors" of Karma: There are 4 different types of karma that you are always working on:
Sanchita Karma: the accumulated result of all your actions from all your past lifetimes. This is your total cosmic debt. Every moment of every day either you are adding to it or you are reducing this cosmic debt.
Prarabdha Karma: the portion of your "sanchita" karma being worked on in the present life. If you work down your agreed upon debt in this lifetime, then more past debts surface to be worked on.
Agami Karma: the portion of actions in the present life that add to your "sanchita" karma. If you fail to work off your debt, then more debts are added to "sanchita" karma and are sent to future lives.
Kriyamana Karma: daily, instant karma created in this life that is worked off immediately. These are debts that are created and worked off - ie. you do wrong, you get caught and you spend time in jail
"Resistance is Futile": As Soul, you experience a constant cycle of births and deaths into a series of bodies until you have learned all the spiritual lessons that the totality of all experiences have to teach you. Until you have learned, you will find that "resistance" to the rules of karma is "futile".
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Your Karma Will Run Over Your Dogma: How Karma Works
Sooner or Later, You're Dancin' With the Reaper
We are Karma Chameleons. While on Earth, you are living in the worlds of reincarnation and karma. Believe it or not, karma begins & ends with love.
Karma begins to propel you as Soul on a personal journey through the universe. Karma ends when you have perfected yourself in your ability to love.
So What is Karma? As Soul you are eternal. You have past, present, and future lives. To grow in love, joy, and awareness, you reincarnate into a series of physical bodies to experience different existences. You have been or will be both sexes and all races, religions, and ethnic types throughout many lifetimes.
Karma Defined: Karma means that "as you sow, so also shall you reap" in this and other lifetimes until you understand the complete consequences of all your actions. Karma is the principle of cause and effect, action and reaction, total cosmic justice and personal responsibility.
The 4 Different "Flavors" of Karma: There are 4 different types of karma that you are always working on:
Sanchita Karma: the accumulated result of all your actions from all your past lifetimes. This is your total cosmic debt. Every moment of every day either you are adding to it or you are reducing this cosmic debt.
Prarabdha Karma: the portion of your "sanchita" karma being worked on in the present life. If you work down your agreed upon debt in this lifetime, then more past debts surface to be worked on.
Agami Karma: the portion of actions in the present life that add to your "sanchita" karma. If you fail to work off your debt, then more debts are added to "sanchita" karma and are sent to future lives.
Kriyamana Karma: daily, instant karma created in this life that is worked off immediately. These are debts that are created and worked off - ie. you do wrong, you get caught and you spend time in jail
"Resistance is Futile": As Soul, you experience a constant cycle of births and deaths into a series of bodies until you have learned all the spiritual lessons that the totality of all experiences have to teach you. Until you have learned, you will find that "resistance" to the rules of karma is "futile".
A lot of made up shit right there and I didn't see a hint of proof.
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Lovemonkey,where is Stark the last 2wks anyway?
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Lovemonkey,where is Stark the last 2wks anyway?
He's still around unfortunately.
hahahah
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He's still around unfortunately.
Quality contribution there from Stafk 'hahahah' ;D
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stark is on a businesstrip to Uganda.
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A lot of made up shit right there and I didn't see a hint of proof.
One word "conception".
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stark is on a businesstrip to Uganda.
I hope he catches a COCKtail of malaria and fullblown AIDS!
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One word "conception".
Prove the nonsense you wrote earlier. Let me just see a shrapnel of proof. Otherwise it is just superstition.
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Your Karma Will Run Over Your Dogma: How Karma Works
Sooner or Later, You're Dancin' With the Reaper
We are Karma Chameleons. While on Earth, you are living in the worlds of reincarnation and karma. Believe it or not, karma begins & ends with love.
Karma begins to propel you as Soul on a personal journey through the universe. Karma ends when you have perfected yourself in your ability to love.
So What is Karma? As Soul you are eternal. You have past, present, and future lives. To grow in love, joy, and awareness, you reincarnate into a series of physical bodies to experience different existences. You have been or will be both sexes and all races, religions, and ethnic types throughout many lifetimes.
Karma Defined: Karma means that "as you sow, so also shall you reap" in this and other lifetimes until you understand the complete consequences of all your actions. Karma is the principle of cause and effect, action and reaction, total cosmic justice and personal responsibility.
The 4 Different "Flavors" of Karma: There are 4 different types of karma that you are always working on:
Sanchita Karma: the accumulated result of all your actions from all your past lifetimes. This is your total cosmic debt. Every moment of every day either you are adding to it or you are reducing this cosmic debt.
Prarabdha Karma: the portion of your "sanchita" karma being worked on in the present life. If you work down your agreed upon debt in this lifetime, then more past debts surface to be worked on.
Agami Karma: the portion of actions in the present life that add to your "sanchita" karma. If you fail to work off your debt, then more debts are added to "sanchita" karma and are sent to future lives.
Kriyamana Karma: daily, instant karma created in this life that is worked off immediately. These are debts that are created and worked off - ie. you do wrong, you get caught and you spend time in jail
"Resistance is Futile": As Soul, you experience a constant cycle of births and deaths into a series of bodies until you have learned all the spiritual lessons that the totality of all experiences have to teach you. Until you have learned, you will find that "resistance" to the rules of karma is "futile".
great post.
i believe in karma. :)
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I believe in Karma. and it's true, if your a crotchy mean person, that mess gets thrown back to you. And have you ever met a genuine good person, and after you've talked, you have a positive vibe from that point on?
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Just curious, how come there isn't a shitload of bashing here from the science-minded religion haters? Invisible energy force that rewards the good and punishes the bad?
Keep it up, Danielson, whatever it is.
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Anyways, my New Years resolution was to make 3 random people who seem depressed/neglected feel just a little bit better about themselves everyday.
Getbig is a better palce because of your great humor and you have made my day many times! Have a great weekend, danielson!
;D ;D ;D
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Prove the nonsense you wrote earlier. Let me just see a shrapnel of proof. Otherwise it is just superstition.
There are cases of little kids remembering past-lives. One boy remembered going down in a plane in WW2, remembered the type of plane, where he was stationed and the name of at least one guy he served with who happened to still be alive at the time. There are a lot of cases like this. People speaking languages from past lives while under hypnosis, etc. Fun shit. Reincarnation was also a part of catholicism until Emperor Justinius had it removed. A friend of mine's mom told him when he was a kid he was always talking about getting shot and "that disease".
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I don't believe in Karma, I always help a lot of people (friends and family member) and most of them try to fuck me up.
I am starting to be very sellfish these days, I don't want to help anyone anymore (exept my parents if they need it)
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Good post Gracie!
Thats why I would never commit suicide, the thought of having to repeat the same shit again and not moving beyond it.
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There are cases of little kids remembering past-lives. One boy remembered going down in a plane in WW2, remembered the type of plane, where he was stationed and the name of at least one guy he served with who happened to still be alive at the time. There are a lot of cases like this. People speaking languages from past lives while under hypnosis, etc. Fun shit. Reincarnation was also a part of catholicism until Emperor Justinius had it removed. A friend of mine's mom told him when he was a kid he was always talking about getting shot and "that disease".
And there are cases of people personally meeting jesus and there some that claim to have been abducted by aliens. The human mind is capable of a lot of things.
I'll bet ya that 99,99% of those stories are anecdotal/legends or if not, weird coincidences. Waaay more likely than there being some sort of higher energy playing judge on us. This whole karma superstition is very easily compared to religion.
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I believe in Karma. and it's true, if your a crotchy mean person, that mess gets thrown back to you. And have you ever met a genuine good person, and after you've talked, you have a positive vibe from that point on?
And it's outright impossible that could just be the result of basic human interaction. ::)
No there has to be some sort of "universal order" or "higher energy" making sure you feel better when you've met a nice person. 10 seconds later that nice person could very well be hit by a car and die. But hey, karma works in mysterious ways!
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I believe in (chicken) korma
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There are cases of little kids remembering past-lives. One boy remembered going down in a plane in WW2, remembered the type of plane, where he was stationed and the name of at least one guy he served with who happened to still be alive at the time. There are a lot of cases like this. People speaking languages from past lives while under hypnosis, etc. Fun shit. Reincarnation was also a part of catholicism until Emperor Justinius had it removed. A friend of mine's mom told him when he was a kid he was always talking about getting shot and "that disease".
that whole reincarnation, previous lifes and stuff is very interesting! where did u hear about the boy with the ww2 plane?
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And there are cases of people personally meeting jesus and there some that claim to have been abducted by aliens. The human mind is capable of a lot of things.
I'll bet ya that 99,99% of those stories are anecdotal/legends or if not, weird coincidences. Waaay more likely than there being some sort of higher energy playing judge on us. This whole karma superstition is very easily compared to religion.
One researcher on past lifes didn't feel karma played any role in it at all. That part is sketchy. Also there doesn't seem to be any direct involvement from a God. It's researched by scientists, and hypnotherapists among others, but I don't know if this is the kind of thing that could be peer-reviewed and recreated in a laboratory.
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that whole reincarnation, previous lifes and stuff is very interesting! where did u hear about the boy with the ww2 plane?
Coast to Coast AM. A radio show with a lot of new age and paranormal topics, which I download torrents of, but here's that Little boy story being debunked, or at least an attempt http://www.reversespins.com/proofofreincarnation.html I rarely scrutinize what I hear on there as it's more fun not to.
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One researcher on past lifes didn't feel karma played any role in it at all. That part is sketchy. Also there doesn't seem to be any direct involvement from a God. It's researched by scientists, and hypnotherapists among others, but I don't know if this is the kind of thing that could be peer-reviewed and recreated in a laboratory.
For any of this past lives things to be true there has to be some sort of soul or "energy" going from one body to another. Hmm sounds familiar doesn't it.
Sorry man but this is also a perfect example on why this can be compared to religion. Any idea how many "scientists" try to convince people of creationism?
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Coast to Coast AM. A radio show with a lot of new age and paranormal topics, which I download torrents of, but here's that Little boy story being debunked, or at least an attempt http://www.reversespins.com/proofofreincarnation.html I rarely scrutinize what I hear on there as it's more fun not to.
very interesting read, I've heard some strange stuff on coast to coast am before...
i guess it could be true, how would he remember that stuff otherwise...
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Prove the nonsense you wrote earlier. Let me just see a shrapnel of proof. Otherwise it is just superstition.
Oh God! If you don't mind.whats your religion?
BTW: do you really understand the conception of karma or religion?
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absolutely believe in it.. i could tell you guys hundreds of storys where karma comes back to you... when i originally applied to be a police officer i was denied.. after 4 years of college, and 2 years playing minor league baseball i did some things i ended up regretting...
i used to go to the gym every morning, when it was never crowded.. i would see the same people every day. after a year one guy came up to talk to me. he asked what i did for a living.. i said i was living off my baseball money and i got rejected by the nypd.. turns out he was the chief. he said he liked the way i acted in the gym, and boom i was in the academy 2 weeks later..
i always rememberd when i was in high school and a yankees scout talked to me. he said ''always remember you never know who watching you''... that always stuck with me.
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Oh God! If you don't mind.whats your religion?
BTW: do you really understand the conception of karma or religion?
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No religion or superstition for me. OK, lets assume I haven't got a clue what karma is about. You still make some bold claims in this post.
Your Karma Will Run Over Your Dogma: How Karma Works
Sooner or Later, You're Dancin' With the Reaper
We are Karma Chameleons. While on Earth, you are living in the worlds of reincarnation and karma. Believe it or not, karma begins & ends with love.
Karma begins to propel you as Soul on a personal journey through the universe. Karma ends when you have perfected yourself in your ability to love.
So What is Karma? As Soul you are eternal. You have past, present, and future lives. To grow in love, joy, and awareness, you reincarnate into a series of physical bodies to experience different existences. You have been or will be both sexes and all races, religions, and ethnic types throughout many lifetimes.
Karma Defined: Karma means that "as you sow, so also shall you reap" in this and other lifetimes until you understand the complete consequences of all your actions. Karma is the principle of cause and effect, action and reaction, total cosmic justice and personal responsibility.
The 4 Different "Flavors" of Karma: There are 4 different types of karma that you are always working on:
Sanchita Karma: the accumulated result of all your actions from all your past lifetimes. This is your total cosmic debt. Every moment of every day either you are adding to it or you are reducing this cosmic debt.
Prarabdha Karma: the portion of your "sanchita" karma being worked on in the present life. If you work down your agreed upon debt in this lifetime, then more past debts surface to be worked on.
Agami Karma: the portion of actions in the present life that add to your "sanchita" karma. If you fail to work off your debt, then more debts are added to "sanchita" karma and are sent to future lives.
Kriyamana Karma: daily, instant karma created in this life that is worked off immediately. These are debts that are created and worked off - ie. you do wrong, you get caught and you spend time in jail
"Resistance is Futile": As Soul, you experience a constant cycle of births and deaths into a series of bodies until you have learned all the spiritual lessons that the totality of all experiences have to teach you. Until you have learned, you will find that "resistance" to the rules of karma is "futile".
Whoever wrote that had the nerve to even describe in detail what karma is and how it works, not just the rough concept of it. As said, very bold claims. It demands proof if you want to push it on others.
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No religion or superstition for me. OK, lets assume I haven't got a clue what karma is about. You still make some bold claims in this post.
Whoever wrote that had the nerve to even describe in detail what karma is and how it works, not just the rough concept of it. As said, very bold claims. It demands proof if you want to push it on others.
My point was the concept of it.if you understood that's good. if you don't... well! thats not my problem.
So. you know that i don't need to prove you anything.
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My point was the concept of it.if you understood that good. if you don't... well! thats not my problem.
So. you know that i don't need to prove you anything.
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Ok, but really, do you believe in the things you copied and pasted earlier?
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OK, but really, do you believe in the things you copied and pasted earlier?
Who told you that i copied and pasted?
I believe in the conception of it.
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Who told you that i copied and pasted?
I believe in the conception of it.
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I suppose "conception" means concept.
Then why bother posting that nonsense? That was NOT a concept, it was explicit details and bold claims.
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And it's outright impossible that could just be the result of basic human interaction. ::)
No there has to be some sort of "universal order" or "higher energy" making sure you feel better when you've met a nice person. 10 seconds later that nice person could very well be hit by a car and die. But hey, karma works in mysterious ways!
Well, hoepfully I don't get hit by a car and die tonight. Because what you just said in the sentence bfore, is what people have said about me. And i never got what people are saying. I have always treated people like I wanted to be treated. Not do unto others, before they do unto you. And yes, the vibe you give off to others does rub off...For instance have you ever delt with some who was jack ass, and then you match their demeanor? Same thing. The vibe they gave off and the way they acted or talked, you matched it.
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Well, hoepfully I don't get hit by a car and die tonight. Because what you just said in the sentence bfore, is what people have said about me. And i never got what people are saying. I have always treated people like I wanted to be treated. Not do unto others, before they do unto you. And yes, the vibe you give off to others does rub off...For instance have you ever delt with some who was jack ass, and then you match their demeanor? Same thing. The vibe they gave off and the way they acted or talked, you matched it.
Sure all that you are saying makes perfect sense. Be a good person and you are very likely to benefit from it and others as well. Your mood is contagious and if you're pissed off other people around you are less likely to be happy etc. As said, this is just basic human interaction, it has nothing to do with "karma" or any other bullshit.
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I suppose "conception" means concept.
Then why bother posting that nonsense? That was NOT a concept, it was explicit details and bold claims.
You' re saying that my post was a nonsense. karma or any religion= nonsense.
Can you prove it?
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You' re saying that my post was a nonsense. karma or any religion= nonsense.
Can you prove it?
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First of all, that is a copout. Second I'll find the religious or superstitious people inability to prove their claims enough proof for me that what they believe is false. And believe me, they really REALLY try.
You know, most of what physicists discover or think of usually sound even more absurd (quantum theory anyone?) than the idea of a god or karma but they can still give evidence for their claims! That's because they actually care about the truth and not old folklore's and myths. The truth about the "universal order" or whatever you want to call is really absurd and humans have a hard time dealing with it. That's why they come up with all sorts of gods or lame simplified theories of why things work the way they do to cover that gap of knowledge.
I'd rather listen to Stephen Hawking's annoying robot voice all day than some goofy new-age clown.
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First of all, that is a copout. Second I'll find the religious or superstitious people inability to prove their claims enough proof for me that what they believe is false. And believe me, they really REALLY try.
You know, most of what physicists discover or think of usually sound even more absurd (quantum theory anyone?) than the idea of a god or karma but they can still give evidence for their claims! That's because they actually care about the truth and not old folklore's and myths. The truth about the "universal order" or whatever you want to call is really absurd and humans have a hard time dealing with it. That's why they come up with all sorts of gods or lame simplified theories of why things work the way they do to cover that gap of knowledge.
I'd rather listen to Stephen Hawking's annoying robot voice all day than some goofy new-age clown.
I believe in facts and science. I was talking about the concept, you know being a good person and bla bla..
and i agree that religious people are way too.
But... Can you prove that GOD exist or not? can you prove that KARMA its real or not?
I'm humble enough to believe in the concept.
Ps: i'm sorry for my english. i know i suck.
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I believe in facts and science. I was talking about the concept, you know being a good person and bla bla..
and i agree that religious people are way too.
But... Can you prove that GOD exist or not? can you prove that KARMA its real or not?
I'm humble enough to believe in the concept.
Ps: i'm sorry for my english. i know i suck.
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You explained it pretty well, I wish I could speak Portuguese, awsome language.
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I believe in facts and science. I was talking about the concept, you know being a good person and bla bla..
and i agree that religious people are way too.
But... Can you prove that GOD exist or not? can you prove that KARMA its real or not?
I'm humble enough to believe in the concept.
Ps: i'm sorry for my english. i know i suck.
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I believe in facts and science. I was talking about the concept, you know being a good person and bla bla..
Sure man, as I've said the attitude you have against others is very likely to shape your future. Be an asshole and you get treated as such etc. It's simple human behavior that is also very common in nature where animals depend on each other in flocks. Why do you need to invoke any type of "higher energy" or karma to explain it?
But... Can you prove that GOD exist or not? can you prove that KARMA its real or not?
Just because you can't disprove something does not make it true. A classic argument in this type of debates is the "flying spaghetti monster" or the "flying teapot". If I told you that a magical teapot is circling around Jupiter does it become true just because you can't disprove it?
I'm humble enough to believe in the concept.
You are really not doing yourself a favor by thinking this way. Always demand evidence and logical reasoning for everything you believe in, or at least try to. If your friend claimed to have gotten a blowjob by Pamela Anderson yesterday, wouldn't you demand proof before believing it as it seems very unlikely? Apply the same reasoning to everything else and you'll be better off.
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Sure man, as I've said the attitude you have against others is very likely to shape your future. Be an asshole and you get treated as such etc. It's simple human behavior that is also very common in nature where animals depend on each other in flocks. Why do you need to invoke any type of "higher energy" or karma to explain it?
Just because you can't disprove something does not make it true. A classic argument in this type of debates is the "flying spaghetti monster" or the "flying teapot". If I told you that a magical teapot is circling around Jupiter does it become true just because you can't disprove it?
You are really not doing yourself a favor by thinking this way. Always demand evidence and logical reasoning for everything you believe in, or at least try to. If your friend claimed to have gotten a blowjob by Pamela Anderson yesterday, wouldn't you demand proof before believing it as it seems very unlikely? Apply the same reasoning to everything else and you'll be better off.
I'm sorry, but when i said that " I'm humble enough to believe in the concept"
What i meant was. that I'm humble enough to believe in the idea of, you been a good person, and doing good things.
And i will Not believe in things. just because someone told me. or was written somewhere.
Yes i would like to see some evidence.
Thanks for your pacience.
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The orginal mean of Karma is simply "Causality and Effect".
If you say some beautiful things to another people,you feel good and you feel yourself living in the positive world.
And this feeling makes you positive(without notice:under conciousness) and you do good thing to you without notice.
Nothing special..
I gave away 50k to charity,,,,but i did not win the powerball which was 260 million dollasss,, ::)
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You' re saying that my post was a nonsense. karma or any religion= nonsense.
Can you prove it?
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can you prove your great X20 father lived,,,,, ::)
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I don't believe in it, but I do like the underlying idea behind it. You should treat others with respect to the point where it doesn't become burdensome to you. Merely being an asshole due to frustration shows low value, and is something only people of low class or generally people of the genetic underclass only do. Like the worthless scum that inhabit ghettos having nothing good to say, or show any sort of respect towards their fellow man.
Treat others with respect naturally without trying and you'll see how the response is from others; it's something wonderful and allows you to build good relationships and network.
That I think is behind the old hindu concept. It's a beautiful thing really considering it's been around for so long.
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I don't believe in it, but I do like the underlying idea behind it. You should treat others with respect to the point where it doesn't become burdensome to you. Merely being an asshole due to frustration shows low value, and is something only people of low class or generally people of the genetic underclass only do. Like the worthless scum that inhabit ghettos having nothing good to say, or show any sort of respect towards their fellow man.
Treat others with respect naturally without trying and you'll see how the response is from others; it's something wonderful and allows you to build good relationships and network.
That I think is behind the old hindu concept. It's a beautiful thing really considering it's been around for so long.
See, it doesn't have to be any more complicated than this. Why people insist on invoking supernatural powers in to this simple truth is beyond me.
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It's called growing up. And the idea of karma is a repulsive to me, since it is selfishness defined. You do better because you fear repercussion later on, not because you genuinely want to help people. Kinda like religious people claiming there would be no morals without a god.
hahahahaha
you like philosophy
you sound kinda like you would agree with immanuel kant on ethics
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hahahahaha
you like philosophy
you sound kinda like you would agree with immanuel kant on ethics
What's the laughing matter here? Immanuel Kant seems like a cool cat and I would have no trouble being associated with his way of thinking.
Maybe I should add that I had no fuckin clue who he was until I googled. I need university really bad. ;D
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What's the laughing matter here? Immanuel Kant seems like a cool cat and I would have no trouble being associated with his way of thinking.
Maybe I should add that I had no fuckin clue who he was until I googled. I need university really bad. ;D
its just funny to me cuz im studying that at the moment
Kant is okay. I both agree and disagree with him. im a bit of a hedonist.
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See, it doesn't have to be any more complicated than this. Why people insist on invoking supernatural powers in to this simple truth is beyond me.
I'm sorry but.
to have concept of something means= to have a idea of something.
right?
So when i say that i like the concept behind Karma.
is like saying " the underlying idea behind it" wright or wrong?
If I'm wrong please educate me.
If I'm right why you giving me a hard time?
thanks.
I don't believe in it, but I do like the underlying idea behind it. You should treat others with respect to the point where it doesn't become burdensome to you. Merely being an asshole due to frustration shows low value, and is something only people of low class or generally people of the genetic underclass only do. Like the worthless scum that inhabit ghettos having nothing good to say, or show any sort of respect towards their fellow man.
Treat others with respect naturally without trying and you'll see how the response is from others; it's something wonderful and allows you to build good relationships and network.
That I think is behind the old hindu concept. It's a beautiful thing really considering it's been around for so long.
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I'm sorry but.
to have concept of something means= to have a idea of something.
right?
So when i say that i like the concept behind Karma.
is like saying " the underlying idea behind it" wright or wrong?
If I'm wrong please educate me.
If I'm right why you giving me a hard time?
thanks.
I understand what you are trying to say but at the same time I do NOT understand why you bother trying to explain it with some supernatural karma. What has being good and nice anything to do with this nonsense for example?
Sanchita Karma: the accumulated result of all your actions from all your past lifetimes. This is your total cosmic debt. Every moment of every day either you are adding to it or you are reducing this cosmic debt.
I just don't understand why you made it so complicated for yourself.
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I understand what you are trying to say but at the same time I do NOT understand why you bother trying to explain it with some supernatural karma. What has being good and nice anything to do with this nonsense for example?
I just don't understand why you made it so complicated for yourself.
Thats the whole definition of karma in Hinduism.
I never said that i believe in reincarnation ,other lifes and supernatural .
Perhaps you misunderstood. my bad english lol. ;D
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Thats the whole definition of karma in Hinduism.
I never said that i believe in reincarnation ,other lifes and supernatural .
Perhaps you misunderstood. my bad english lol. ;D
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Well do yourself a favor next time and tell us what you really believe or think and not post nonsense like that. Why did you post it if you do not believe in it?
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Well do yourself a favor next time and tell us what you really believe or think and not post nonsense like that. Why did you post it if you do not believe in it?
I was trying to explain the whole definition of karma in Hinduism.
Let's say you trying to explain your friend how to make a banana milk shake.
You know. banana, milk and sugar. whatever. but. you don't like ( believe ) in banana.
Would you teach him to make a banana milk shake, without banana. no right?
You have to explain everything. ingredients and this and that.
Are we clear now. ;D
Thanks.
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Si senor
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yes instant karma
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no such thing as karma, there is such thing as your actions having reactions, usually you forget what you did long ago, and that somebody that knows somebody else knows about it and it comes back to haunt you, it isn't karma though.
jt
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Good things happen to bad people :'(
that is totally different, that is coincidence, just shit happening. They are talking about Karma of you doing good and it will come back to you or you doing bad and it will come back to you. That in a sense is just those you have offended or helped out getting back at you by others or helping you out by themselves or talk to other people about your good deeds, not Karma, that is just dumb.
jt
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karma is backed by science.
every action has an equal and opposite reaction.
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I`m the poster boy for "what goes around,comes around".............we definately reap what we sow IMO.
Instant karma gonna` get you! :)
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karma is backed by science.
every action has an equal and opposite reaction.
Correct!
And I'd advise all getbiggers not to pick their nostrils, not to wank off to pRon, always think nice thoughts.
Everyday you choose a path: eg junk or no junk day, ...and that action will set off a pre-determined chain of events.
Choose wisely.,
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karma is backed by science.
every action has an equal and opposite reaction.
You can not possibly be stupid enough to link karma and Newtonian physics?
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You can not possibly be stupid enough to link karma and Newtonian physics?
u can not possibly be stupid enough not to !!
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u can not possibly be stupid enough not to !!
Isaac Newton was ahead of his time. In fact, compared to this time he'd still be ahead.
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u can not possibly be stupid enough not to !!
OK, I'm a slow retard. Explain to me how Newtonian physics affects the judging criteria by which karma operates. I guess you must be implying that basic physics gives a shit about human social interaction and moral standards?
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OK, I'm a slow retard. Explain to me how Newtonian physics affects the judging criteria by which karma operates. I guess you must be implying that basic physics gives a shit about human social interaction and moral standards?
::) its difficult to explain a quantum cosmic force and law like karma to a getbigger who has already made up him mind, and all over the internet !
also you really cannot get a simpler explanation that ' every force has an equal and opposite reaction' - its self explanatory.
science has proved this time and time again.
can you give me an example of any force that has no reaction ? of course not, and this is why science backs karma.
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::) its difficult to explain a quantum cosmic force and law like karma to a getbigger who has already made up him mind, and all over the internet !
also you really cannot get a simpler explanation that ' every force has an equal and opposite reaction' - its self explanatory.
science has proved this time and time again.
can you give me an example of any force that has no reaction ? of course not, and this is why science backs karma.
=You have no clue what you're talking about and have a monster lack of logic and reasoning.
Of course, in physics every force has an equal opposite force that's Newtonian physics. But I think you're confusing basic elementary particle physics with human emotions and interaction. There are so many flaws in your logic I don't even know where to begin.
First, if you're serious about karma being decided by unalterable physics then how do you explain that some good people get nothing but shit all their lives and people like Josef Mengele (aka doctor of death in nazi conc. camps) gets away with his horrible acts and gets to spend a casual life in brazil? Doesn't seem to be any absolute truth there which basic physics demand.
Newtonian physics are great to explain why a rifle has a recoil when you shoot it but it's absolutely worthless when it comes to human social interaction. If I go to some random fat guy (you perhaps?) and make him feel so bad about himself with my nasty words resulting in his suicide and I get hit by a bus two days later, you would call it karma. But that also means that whatever force I pushed on the fat guy somehow took 48 hours to give an equal force back. Doesn't sound like logical physics to me. ::)
I can't believe I'm even taking the time to write all this, feel honored you prick.
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=You have no clue what you're talking about and have a monster lack of logic and reasoning.
Of course, in physics every force has an equal opposite force that's Newtonian physics. But I think you're confusing basic elementary particle physics with human emotions and interaction. There are so many flaws in your logic I don't even know where to begin.
First, if you're serious about karma being decided by unalterable physics then how do you explain that some good people get nothing but shit all their lives and people like Josef Mengele (aka doctor of death in nazi conc. camps) gets away with his horrible acts and gets to spend a casual life in brazil? Doesn't seem to be any absolute truth there which basic physics demand.
Newtonian physics are great to explain why a rifle has a recoil when you shoot it but it's absolutely worthless when it comes to human social interaction. If I go to some random fat guy (you perhaps?) and make him feel so bad about himself with my nasty words resulting in his suicide and I get hit by a bus two days later, you would call it karma. But that also means that whatever force I pushed on the fat guy somehow took 48 hours to give an equal force back. Doesn't sound like logical physics to me. ::)
I can't believe I'm even taking the time to write all this, feel honored you prick.
hahahahahahaha meltdown of epic proportions, now that you have been owned by science.
and yes i feel honoured a retard is trying desperately to justify that there is no order or reason in the universe, by resorting to calling me a fool and fat guy hahahahahaha ::)
1st - there are no flaws in my logic, every force DOES have an equal and opposite reaction.
2nd - its not difficult to understand why some people get shit on most of their lives. They have had a good past life and karma is now balancing it out - or they have been assholes to other is a past or present life and are paying the price.
As gracie's post earlier explains.
You really should not melt down so easily when someone disagrees with your beliefs.
If you feel we are all put here by chance, with no logic or order and its every man for himself. how many people have you killed ? how many people have you robbed ? how many women have you raped? how many people have you beaten ? if there is nothing else why do you obey laws ? why do you have a conscience ? what is the point in living by rules when you can do and say anything with no comeback or punishment ?
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hahahahahahaha meltdown of epic proportions, now that you have been owned by science.
You haven't proved a diddly squat of your claims. Bring your theories to any type of physicist and they'll laugh their asses off.
1st - there are no flaws in my logic, every force DOES have an equal and opposite reaction.
When it comes to particle physics yes, there is an equal force both ways. How are human emotions and interactions considered to be forces in terms of physics? That's what I wanna know.
2nd - its not difficult to understand why some people get shit on most of their lives. They have had a good past life and karma is now balancing it out - or they have been assholes to other is a past or present life and are paying the price.
Now you're just entering new-age territory, making bold claims without a shred of evidence. We're talking basic principles of physics here and how it could even remotely play any role in human emotions and consequences and you spout off in to reincarnation? You are just digging a deeper hole for yourself.
If you feel we are all put here by chance, with no logic or order and its every man for himself. how many people have you killed ? how many people have you robbed ? how many women have you raped? how many people have you beaten ? if there is nothing else why do you obey laws ? why do you have a conscience ? what is the point in living by rules when you can do and say anything with no comeback or punishment ?
That is fundamental creationist talk. Ever heard of this thing called evolution? Since we live in flocks and depend on each other we are required to behave and not murder one and another in order to survive. Those who are not dependent on the flocks of their own species, like reptile snakes for example, they eat each other up without worry. Our systems of law and punishment comes from our own evolutionary desire to stay together and not hurt other individuals in the same group.
Wherever humans have a gap of knowledge on the system of nature we are very prone to supernatural explanations. It's a shame you have fallen in to that trap since there is so much knowledge and research out there to explain most if not all things happening in our universe without invoking some "karma" bullshit.
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u can not possibly be stupid enough not to !!
I'm sorry Fatpanda, but any scientific law has absolutely nothing to do with Karma at all. What you do is in fact impose Karma over what is only a mathematical formula in the end, not the oppposite. Science has no explanatory power beyond scientific aspects. And Karma quite obviously is beyond those aspects.
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You haven't proved a diddly squat of your claims. Bring your theories to any type of physicist and they'll laugh their asses off.
When it comes to particle physics yes, there is an equal force both ways. How are human emotions and interactions considered to be forces in terms of physics? That's what I wanna know.
Now you're just entering new-age territory, making bold claims without a shred of evidence. We're talking basic principles of physics here and how it could even remotely play any role in human emotions and consequences and you spout off in to reincarnation? You are just digging a deeper hole for yourself.
That is fundamental creationist talk. Ever heard of this thing called evolution? Since we live in flocks and depend on each other we are required to behave and not murder one and another in order to survive. Those who are not dependent on the flocks of their own species, like reptile snakes for example, they eat each other up without worry. Our systems of law and punishment comes from our own evolutionary desire to stay together and not hurt other individuals in the same group.
Wherever humans have a gap of knowledge on the system of nature we are very prone to supernatural explanations. It's a shame you have fallen in to that trap since there is so much knowledge and research out there to explain most if not all things happening in our universe without invoking some "karma" bullshit.
hahahahaha utter bullshit is what you are typing.
i do not need to 'prove' the laws of physics. force is force is applies to everything not just particle physics i.e. planets, stars, cars, muscles, and thoughts. To claim otherwise its stupid.
Science does back emotions and feelings being a force also. Subtle but a force nontheless.
Every single thought you have has a frequency, your brain transmits a frequency every single time you think of anything. These frequencies are no different from radio frequencies, microwave frequencies etc etc do you disagree these frequencies have 'no effect' ? you can cook food with microwave frequencies, they can cause mutations in dna, etc etc.
thoughts have been shown by science to influence random event generators - yes make no mistake your thoughts can and do have an effect.
for more info read : http://www.redorbit.com/news/display/?id=126649&2_page=1
now if we can agree that thoughts/emotions are a force like any other. How can karma not be ? why is it the exception? in my opinion it is not.
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I dont believe in Karma that much.
But I like the concept of trying to become a better person.
It is a good way of making people treat each other better.
Nothing wrong with helping people.
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I dont believe in Karma that much.
But I like the concept of trying to become a better person.
It is a good way of making people treat each other better.
Nothing wrong with helping people.
Send me some money then, hippy.
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I dont believe in Karma that much.
But I like the concept of trying to become a better person.
It is a good way of making people treat each other better.
Nothing wrong with helping people.
Then why not invite the whole board for an all expense paid trip to your island?
Help us help others! :)
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I wish i could wes.
Letting some getbigger fly a helicopter for the first time
making them pee in their pants...
It is very hard helping people you dont like.
Some here are so clueless about getting girls or a career.
I could easily help some of them, but somehow I cant stand
most of them.
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I wish i could wes.
Letting some getbigger fly a helicopter for the first time
making them pee in their pants...
It is very hard helping people you dont like.
Some here are so clueless about getting girls or a career.
I could easily help some of them, but somehow I cant stand
most of them.
::) have sympathy on us unwashed masses oh Great One, we can't all be the ex special forces commando/billionaire/retiree at age 30 like you.
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One guy i know married this girl.
He flew to her hometown
bought wine and beer to the whole neighbourhood.
Some of them called him a cheap bastard for
only buying 4000 bottles cursing him behind his back.
I figure the same thing or even worse
would happen here on GB.
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One guy i know married this girl.
He flew to her hometown
bought wine and beer to the whole neighbourhood.
Some of them called him a cheap bastard for
only buying 4000 bottles cursing him behind his back.
I figure the same thing or even worse
would happen here on GB.
you sound a little bitter "@Brandon", did a typhoon hit your private tropical island?
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Yes I think I am, I need to work on that as well.
About the special forces, it really no big deal.
It is quite easy to get in.
You need to have a decent physique with good cardio to
beat the test.
Then know what to say to the Psychologist to make him/her pleased.
It is quite a boring job most of the time btw, I would not recommend it.
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Yes I think I am, I need to work on that as well.
About the special forces, it really no big deal.
It is quite easy to get in.
You need to have a decent physique with good cardio to
beat the test.
Then know what to say to the Psychologist to make him/her pleased.
It is quite a boring job most of the time btw, I would not recommend it.
;D
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;D
You can not fool the mighty QO.
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Good shit!! :)
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Yes I think I am, I need to work on that as well.
About the special forces, it really no big deal.
It is quite easy to get in.
You need to have a decent physique with good cardio to
beat the test.
Then know what to say to the Psychologist to make him/her pleased.
It is quite a boring job most of the time btw, I would not recommend it.
haha, oh brother. Yes, they put you thru the mandatories at the MEPS station.....hahaha idiot.
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I`m the poster boy for "what goes around,comes around".............we definately reap what we sow IMO.
Instant karma gonna` get you! :)
Yeah that is true, but it is just you reap what you sew, not Karma, what you do comes back to you eventually obviously.
jt
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i do not need to 'prove' the laws of physics. force is force is applies to everything not just particle physics i.e. planets, stars, cars, muscles, and thoughts. To claim otherwise its stupid.
Science does back emotions and feelings being a force also. Subtle but a force nontheless.
Every single thought you have has a frequency, your brain transmits a frequency every single time you think of anything. These frequencies are no different from radio frequencies, microwave frequencies etc etc do you disagree these frequencies have 'no effect' ? you can cook food with microwave frequencies, they can cause mutations in dna, etc etc.
thoughts have been shown by science to influence random event generators - yes make no mistake your thoughts can and do have an effect.
Ok great, we can agree that basic physics works like Newton predicted. The energy released from the explosion that pushes away the bullet from the barrel kicks back the rifle. When you punch a wall it hurts because the wall transmits the energy back into your fist etc.
But a human emotion or interaction is highly subjective and comes from random patterns of energy in your brain. The energy movement in the brain is indeed a force but being "angry", "happy" or even "batshit crazy" is NOT. What we call emotions are subjectively interpreted patterns of multiple factors. It is not a force in the same sense a bullet is which can be attributed to simple physics but rather only a "force" of human interaction.
You see, human emotions and interactions are not in any way an absolute by which law of physics work with. EVERY human emotion or action is highly subjective and exists only as random patterns of electromagnetic activity in your brain. The "force" you might call "happiness" can very well be interpreted by a dog as "stressed" or "confused". See what I mean about human emotions being subjective? How do you expect anyone to believe that they are absolutes? Even if they were absolutes then why does the universal order/"karma" feel the need to balance them out in a highly unpredictable fashion?
How do you plan to explain that your friend "karma" knows what the hell human emotions are and in what context they exist in?
Ok that's that.
You claim that human emotions and interactions are objects of force in a Newtonian sense. Now please explain exactly what "karma" is, how it operates (by which criteria does it judge? Middle Eastern? Medieval?) and prove the existence of it. While you're at it, provide us with evidence that reincarnation does in fact happen.
now if we can agree that thoughts/emotions are a force like any other. How can karma not be ? why is it the exception? in my opinion it is not.
If you bothered to read what I wrote just now you'll see why this logic fails.
Oh and I didn't see any counterargument for this:
(It pretty much debunks the need for any god or karma)
That is fundamental creationist talk. Ever heard of this thing called evolution? Since we live in flocks and depend on each other we are required to behave and not murder one and another in order to survive. Those who are not dependent on the flocks of their own species, like reptile snakes for example, they eat each other up without worry. Our systems of law and punishment comes from our own evolutionary desire to stay together and not hurt other individuals in the same group.
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I definitely believe in karma.
found atm card in machine, gave it into bank.
lost my atm card in store. Came back 3 days later, it was turned in by a customer.
Sandra
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I definitely believe in karma.
found atm card in machine, gave it into bank.
lost my atm card in store. Came back 3 days later, it was turned in by a customer.
Sandra
Can not possibly be in any way a coincidence or just sheer luck? No it has to be a supernatural force of some sort.
Gosh people are naive and stupid.
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Man stfu
(http://funwithinsomnia.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/slap-bitch-demotivational-poster-funny-odd.jpg)
as much as i don't agree with hitting women, this poster made me spit out my water.
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Ok great, we can agree that basic physics works like Newton predicted. The energy released from the explosion that pushes away the bullet from the barrel kicks back the rifle. When you punch a wall it hurts because the wall transmits the energy back into your fist etc.
But a human emotion or interaction is highly subjective and comes from random patterns of energy in your brain. The energy movement in the brain is indeed a force but being "angry", "happy" or even "batshit crazy" is NOT. What we call emotions are subjectively interpreted patterns of multiple factors. It is not a force in the same sense a bullet is which can be attributed to simple physics but rather only a "force" of human interaction.
You see, human emotions and interactions are not in any way an absolute by which law of physics work with. EVERY human emotion or action is highly subjective and exists only as random patterns of electromagnetic activity in your brain. The "force" you might call "happiness" can very well be interpreted by a dog as "stressed" or "confused". See what I mean about human emotions being subjective? How do you expect anyone to believe that they are absolutes? Even if they were absolutes then why does the universal order/"karma" feel the need to balance them out in a highly unpredictable fashion?
How do you plan to explain that your friend "karma" knows what the hell human emotions are and in what context they exist in?
Ok that's that.
You claim that human emotions and interactions are objects of force in a Newtonian sense. Now please explain exactly what "karma" is, how it operates (by which criteria does it judge? Middle Eastern? Medieval?) and prove the existence of it. While you're at it, provide us with evidence that reincarnation does in fact happen.
If you bothered to read what I wrote just now you'll see why this logic fails.
Oh and I didn't see any counterargument for this:
(It pretty much debunks the need for any god or karma)
hmmm i don't know why i'm bothering with you.
you claimed thoughts and emotions are not a measurable force - i showed you they are as they can effect a random event generator. They also effect living organisms - read he book the life of plants where studie have shown that negative emotions directed at plants and fruit make them rot/wither quicker etc, while positive emotions have the opposite effect.
Humans are effected in a similar way. As stress has health consequences etc. If someone is mean to you or insults you it can annoy and bother you. Some people who have a shity day at work can take it out on other people. Karma in effect someone is mean to you, that is passed on sooner or later to someone else, which then is transfered to another, etc etc till it reaches the person who started it.
You argue that a dog cannot tell if we are happy or sad ??? lets be clear - thoughts and emotions are not random events with humans having no control over them like you claim. We are in command of our thoughts and emotions. Also anger, love, etc alL give off a specific frequency, not a randomly changing one. Also if you are mean to a dog for years, chances are it will become vicious and dangerous.
karma does not know what emotions are, its simply a force that is always trying to balance positive and negative forces out.
regarding reincarnation, there is losts of reports that can not be explained but i cannot prove with science that it exists or not, the same way you cannot disprove if it exists of not.
your claims about human evolution is nonsensicle. And one i can easily counter with the fact that ina hunter gatherer setting more humans living togerther = more food needed, which in a hunter gatherer setting = conflict and death.
this is an argument neither can win, you cannot disprove karma, and although i can explain karma as a force like any other, you will not accept anything i nor any other will say.
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This thread is like sleep depravation....
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This thread is like sleep depravation....
thats negative karma in action ;D
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thats negative karma in action ;D
So if I read this entire thread, as painful as it is, will that enhance my positive karma? ;D
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hmmm i don't know why i'm bothering with you.
you claimed thoughts and emotions are not a measurable force - i showed you they are as they can effect a random event generator. They also effect living organisms - read he book the life of plants where studie have shown that negative emotions directed at plants and fruit make them rot/wither quicker etc, while positive emotions have the opposite effect.
Humans are effected in a similar way. As stress has health consequences etc. If someone is mean to you or insults you it can annoy and bother you. Some people who have a shity day at work can take it out on other people. Karma in effect someone is mean to you, that is passed on sooner or later to someone else, which then is transfered to another, etc etc till it reaches the person who started it.
You argue that a dog cannot tell if we are happy or sad ??? lets be clear - thoughts and emotions are not random events with humans having no control over them like you claim. We are in command of our thoughts and emotions. Also anger, love, etc alL give off a specific frequency, not a randomly changing one. Also if you are mean to a dog for years, chances are it will become vicious and dangerous.
karma does not know what emotions are, its simply a force that is always trying to balance positive and negative forces out.
regarding reincarnation, there is losts of reports that can not be explained but i cannot prove with science that it exists or not, the same way you cannot disprove if it exists of not.
your claims about human evolution is nonsensicle. And one i can easily counter with the fact that ina hunter gatherer setting more humans living togerther = more food needed, which in a hunter gatherer setting = conflict and death.
this is an argument neither can win, you cannot disprove karma, and although i can explain karma as a force like any other, you will not accept anything i nor any other will say.
Ok, we're just running around in circles about this emotion force thing. Perhaps I'm explaining it wrong or someone here is seriously retarded.
Usually when my ex girlfriend had moments of manic depression where she could throw hissy fits I calmed her down and did not fire back at her. Sometimes I just ignored her until she was calm enough to talk with me. Where was her karma? According to your theory we're dealing with law of physics here, there can not be an exception. She was mentally unstable and mad and in the end both of us usually ended up spending a nice evening together even though she stirred up mad shit. There was a whole lotta "force" from her side but practically none from mine, there should have been a huge imbalance according to you. "Karma" did not bite her in the ass directly or as a chain of events, not the nanosecond after she got angry or even two days after. I can come up with hundreds of more scenarios where your theory falls flat.
What you're describing is simple communication between human beings. Since we're flock animals we depend on each other and if someone is in a state of distress the rest of group need to know. Therefore facial expressions and different sounds evolved as a tool to communicate. Our ability to speak and form languages is thought to be a bit of a mishap though, scientists are pretty sure they've now found the gene that mutated enabling us to speak and separate ourselves from the rest of the animal kingdom.
Our emotions and expressions are not a force in the same sense a traveling bullet is, they are complicated patterns of messages and interpretations. An emotion is NOT an emotion until it is interpreted by the messenger or the receiver. I highly doubt a plant can interpret a human emotion, actually it was tested by Mythbusters and they said "Busted!".
And of course I know dogs can identify happiness or anger. But it is always not the case and how humans and dogs communicate those feelings are sometimes very different, at least for the dog. Do you have any idea how many times dogs have misinterpreted a human smile for aggression? Happens all the time. And dogs have at least 10,000x the ability of a plant to interpret human emotions and they still get it wrong a big % of the time. As said, human emotions are not absolutes and can not be compared to simple Newtonian physics. Same thing with morse code, those beeps means shit until anyone interprets them.
Does a bullet heading from the barrel towards your skull in 600mph need an interpretation in order to make an impact? No.
Does an emotion being sent by my vocal cords and facial expressions need an interpretation in order to make an impact? Yes. Otherwise they would just be seemingly random patterns of energy waves just floating by without anyone giving a shit.
You do realize that the terms "positive" and "negative" in no matter what language or math are made up by humans? They are only means to interpret/explain forces, not something the "universal order" works by.
But really, you should submit some of your articles to NewSciene, seems like you've come up with some groundbreaking stuff. I bet Stephen Hawking would interested in this "karma" thing. Maybe karma is the explanation for dark matter?
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Ok, we're just running around in circles about this emotion force thing. Perhaps I'm explaining it wrong or someone here is seriously retarded.
Usually when my ex girlfriend had moments of manic depression where she could throw hissy fits I calmed her down and did not fire back at her. Sometimes I just ignored her until she was calm enough to talk with me. Where was her karma? According to your theory we're dealing with law of physics here, there can not be an exception. She was mentally unstable and mad and in the end both of us usually ended up spending a nice evening together even though she stirred up mad shit. There was a whole lotta "force" from her side but practically none from mine, there should have been a huge imbalance according to you. "Karma" did not bite her in the ass directly or as a chain of events, not the nanosecond after she got angry or even two days after. I can come up with hundreds of more scenarios where your theory falls flat.
What you're describing is simple communication between human beings. Since we're flock animals we depend on each other and if someone is in a state of distress the rest of group need to know. Therefore facial expressions and different sounds evolved as a tool to communicate. Our ability to speak and form languages is thought to be a bit of a mishap though, scientists are pretty sure they've now found the gene that mutated enabling us to speak and separate ourselves from the rest of the animal kingdom.
Our emotions and expressions are not a force in the same sense a traveling bullet is, they are complicated patterns of messages and interpretations. An emotion is NOT an emotion until it is interpreted by the messenger or the receiver. I highly doubt a plant can interpret a human emotion, actually it was tested by Mythbusters and they said "Busted!".
And of course I know dogs can identify happiness or anger. But it is always not the case and how humans and dogs communicate those feelings are sometimes very different, at least for the dog. Do you have any idea how many times dogs have misinterpreted a human smile for aggression? Happens all the time. And dogs have at least 10,000x the ability of a plant to interpret human emotions and they still get it wrong a big % of the time. As said, human emotions are not absolutes and can not be compared to simple Newtonian physics. Same thing with morse code, those beeps means shit until anyone interprets them.
Does a bullet heading from the barrel towards your skull in 600mph need an interpretation in order to make an impact? No.
Does an emotion being sent by my vocal cords and facial expressions need an interpretation in order to make an impact? Yes. Otherwise they would just be seemingly random patterns of energy waves just floating by without anyone giving a shit.
You do realize that the terms "positive" and "negative" in no matter what language or math are made up by humans? They are only means to interpret/explain forces, not something the "universal order" works by.
But really, you should submit some of your articles to NewSciene, seems like you've come up with some groundbreaking stuff. I bet Stephen Hawking would interested in this "karma" thing. Maybe karma is the explanation for dark matter?
hahahahahahaha well if mythbusters has 'busted' it who am i or billions of hindu's and buddists to disagree ::)
your logic defies belief. if your girlfriend is attacking you with waves of negative emotion and you do not react, then you are building your own positive karma, while she is building negative karma that she will have to repay somewhere somehow. perhas you might lose your temper with her 1 time in your perfect life and shout at her for something ? or maybe her boss will shout at her for something, or someone else. either way she will repay that karmic debt somehow.
and you are wrong an emotion or freqency does not have to be interpreted to have an effect. as i stated about the plants and fruit - they do not know you are shouting abuse at them, they just absorb negative energy, and are effected. humans don't speak 'dog' yet a dog knows by your tone or 'frequency' perhaps that you are emitting negative frequencies toward him.
regarding humans inventing the terms 'positive' and 'negative' - your point ? you can call it what you like the 'bad' 'good' 'light' 'dark' whatever the end result is the same - they are a forces, karma is a force and you nor 'mythbusters' will change my mind.
So your argument is BUSTED ! ;D
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hahahahahahaha well if mythbusters has 'busted' it who am i or billions of hindu's and buddists to disagree ::)
your logic defies belief. if your girlfriend is attacking you with waves of negative emotion and you do not react, then you are building your own positive karma, while she is building negative karma that she will have to repay somewhere somehow. perhas you might lose your temper with her 1 time in your perfect life and shout at her for something ? or maybe her boss will shout at her for something, or someone else. either way she will repay that karmic debt somehow.
and you are wrong an emotion or freqency does not have to be interpreted to have an effect. as i stated about the plants and fruit - they do not know you are shouting abuse at them, they just absorb negative energy, and are effected. humans don't speak 'dog' yet a dog knows by your tone or 'frequency' perhaps that you are emitting negative frequencies toward him.
regarding humans inventing the terms 'positive' and 'negative' - your point ? you can call it what you like the 'bad' 'good' 'light' 'dark' whatever the end result is the same - they are a forces, karma is a force and you nor 'mythbusters' will change my mind.
So your argument is BUSTED ! ;D
Hahahahahahaaaaaa oh man.
I had a bit of hope for you. I thought you were at least the slightest bit serious about the scientific aspect of this. But no.
You're just another one of those new-age clowns. All you're saying is that there is magic positive and negative energy because buddhists and hindus thinks so. Wow I wasted so much time writing all this. Even if you're stubborn about your opinion usually you learn something from debates.
I've learned nothing from you, you're just another new-age wacko. If you ever visit a theoretical physicist (that has a degree from a proper university) and present your case to him/her I'll pay you 100$ if you bring a videocam and record the reaction. I'm serious. The laughs I'll get will be worth the 100$.
I know I've bashed you before for being fat and disgusting but I at least gave you a chance this time. Now you're dumber than box of rocks as well.
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Hahahahahahaaaaaa oh man.
I had a bit of hope for you. I thought you were at least the slightest bit serious about the scientific aspect of this. But no.
You're just another one of those new-age clowns. All you're saying is that there is magic positive and negative energy because buddhists and hindus thinks so. Wow I wasted so much time writing all this. Even if you're stubborn about your opinion usually you learn something from debates.
I've learned nothing from you, you're just another new-age wacko. If you ever visit a theoretical physicist (that has a degree from a proper university) and present your case to him/her I'll pay you 100$ if you bring a videocam and record the reaction. I'm serious. The laughs I'll get will be worth the 100$.
I know I've bashed you before for being fat and disgusting but I at least gave you a chance this time. Now you're dumber than box of rocks as well.
hahahaha i'm sorry if i can't match up to the high scientific standards set by 'mythbusters' ::)
i have came across your type on getbig before. you have a belief and no matter what evidence it placed in front of you you will not accept it.
although i am willing to accept my explanation of karma is not doing it justice, considering there have been entire books written on the subject, by smarter men and women than me. However you have not even read what i have said, or if you have you are happy to ignore my points.
for example you fist discounted thoughts and emotions as a force - when i gave you evidence of this, you then changed the argument ::)
also if you ask any physicist about the law of karma and ask him if it applies to newtons third law, he will say it is 100%.
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I was nice to people all day again yesterday, just like everyday and wouldn't you know it, I won 100 bucks at Keno last night. Karmas great!
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I was nice to people all day again yesterday, just like everyday and wouldn't you know it, I won 100 bucks at Keno last night. Karmas great!
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i got a new job today. i love karma and karma loves me. :)
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i got a new job today. i love karma and karma loves me. :)
Congratulations :)
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Congratulations :)
thanks :)
congrats on your win.
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I belive in metempsychosis