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Title: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: spinnis on March 10, 2009, 05:41:01 PM
When there are dudes out there training like this every damn day!





Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there a d
Post by: spinnis on March 10, 2009, 05:42:27 PM
He dont need to be flashy.
Look at his fucking car.


Compare that do a guy like "flex wheeler".

Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there a d
Post by: spinnis on March 10, 2009, 05:43:42 PM
thats called being happy with Yourself.

Guess why are having the better life, all those flashy black rappers/bodybuilder or Brock.


....Brock.
Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there
Post by: johnnynoname on March 10, 2009, 05:44:31 PM
with all due respect Swede but this all goes with out saying


BB'ers are not athletes

bodybuilders are to athletics what Liberace was to Vaginal sex
Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there
Post by: spinnis on March 10, 2009, 05:45:31 PM
with all due respect Swede but this all goes with out saying


BB'ers are not athletes

bodybuilders are to athletics what Liberace was to Vaginal sex

There are people out there thinking they are athletes.

Bob Chic for example.
Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on March 10, 2009, 05:46:51 PM
with all due respect Swede but this all goes with out saying


BB'ers are not athletes

bodybuilders are to athletics what Liberace was to Vaginal sex


LOL ! And, Swede ... why's it JUST black rappers ... why not rock stars as well ? Granted, rock stars/country stars don't tend to make music videos showing off all their " flash " ... however, it doesn't mean they don't have it. Just sayin'.  :-\
Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there a d
Post by: lovemonkey on March 10, 2009, 05:47:08 PM
These training scenes remind me of those in Rocky 4. He smells like Ivan Drago.
Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there
Post by: spinnis on March 10, 2009, 05:48:09 PM

LOL ! And, Swede ... why's it JUST black rappers ... why not rock stars as well ? Granted, rock stars/country stars don't tend to make music videos showing off all their " flash " ... however, it doesn't mean they don't have it. Just sayin'.  :-\

because 99.99% of black rappers flashes their money more then they sing.
Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there a d
Post by: lovemonkey on March 10, 2009, 05:48:30 PM
Bob Chick is determined to change the public view of bodybuilders with his new dvd!

"War for the Cocks, the long awaited sequel to the sleeping pill that was War for the Worlds. Bob Chick lets the camera follow him through the glamorous lifestyle of a washed up bodybuilder, living the dream one needle at a time. Bob will show you how to work out like a sissy, get that perfect redneck sunburn, dress like a hobo and much more!
The exciting extra material in this dvd has a special piece for the infamous "room nr 7 right next to ice machine" event at the Mirage. An inside look in to how bodybuilders afford their "finishing touch" hormones.

Out in stores never!"
Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there a d
Post by: spinnis on March 10, 2009, 05:50:48 PM
when watching the exercises keep in mind the dude Cuts to make 260. so hes probably 280 there.
Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there
Post by: johnnynoname on March 10, 2009, 05:53:20 PM
Bob Chick is determined to change the public view of bodybuilders with his new dvd!

"War of the Cocks, the long awaited sequel to the sleeping pill that was War of the Worlds. Bob Chick lets the camera follow him through the glamorous lifestyle of a washed up bodybuilder, living the dream one needle at a time. Bob will show you how to work out like a sissy, get that perfect redneck sunburn, dress like a hobo and much more!
The exciting extra material in this dvd has a special piece for the infamous "room nr 7 right next to ice machine" event at the Mirage. An inside look in to how bodybuilders afford their "finishing touch" hormones.

Out in stores never!"
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there a d
Post by: spinnis on March 10, 2009, 05:59:14 PM
the small dude is 5"8 lol

(http://i44.tinypic.com/4sl6vs.jpg)
Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there a d
Post by: spinnis on March 10, 2009, 06:00:33 PM
look at his fucking hands lol

a true MONSTER:

(http://i44.tinypic.com/2e56tqs.jpg)
Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there
Post by: johnnynoname on March 10, 2009, 06:01:43 PM
look at his fucking hands lol

a true MONSTER:

(http://i44.tinypic.com/2e56tqs.jpg)

schmoeing it up a little aren't we Swede?
Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there
Post by: spinnis on March 10, 2009, 06:05:04 PM
schmoeing it up a little aren't we Swede?

yes  ;D
Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there
Post by: Chick on March 10, 2009, 06:19:02 PM
There are people out there thinking they are athletes.

Bob Chic for example.

I've always been a athlete...that happened to become a BB....played sports all my life and excelled at every one of them. There are all types of athletes in the world...each has their particular challenges when training, practicing...

walk a mile in my shoes...
Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there
Post by: spinnis on March 10, 2009, 06:25:57 PM
I've always been a athlete...that happened to become a BB....played sports all my life and excelled at every one of them. There are all types of athletes in the world...each has their particular challenges when training, practicing...

walk a mile in my shoes...

What I meant what you think the average bodybuilder is an athlete..

Take Jay Cutler for example, lets say he hasnt which I think is right, but lets say 100% it is, hasnt done any other sports and started to bodybuild, Now he cant evern walk fast up a few stair without getting winded and out of breath, Which is understandable because hes 300 pounds.

But would you honestly still call him an athlete.

I hope you understand my bad english.
Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there
Post by: Chick on March 10, 2009, 06:32:57 PM
What I meant what you think the average bodybuilder is an athlete..

Take Jay Cutler for example, lets say he hasnt which I think is right, but lets say 100% it is, hasnt done any other sports and started to bodybuild, Now he cant evern walk fast up a few stair without getting winded and out of breath, Which is understandable because hes 300 pounds.

But would you honestly still call him an athlete.

I hope you understand my bad english.


Whats your point?  As I said...there are many different types of athletes...comparing them is ridiculous. Does Jay have the cardiovascular conditioning of a sprinter...? No....why would he?  The sprinter also couldnt keep up with Jay in the gym...especially on a low carb diet.

Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there
Post by: lovemonkey on March 10, 2009, 06:35:37 PM

Whats your point?  As I said...there are many different types of athletes...comparing them is ridiculous. Does Jay have the cardiovascular conditioning of a sprinter...? No....why would he?  The sprinter also couldnt keep up with Jay in the gym...especially on a low carb diet.



Well I wouldn't call women competing in beauty pageants athletes. Bodybuilders are doing the same thing but they delude themselves by thinking it is about muscle it makes them athletes.
Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there
Post by: johnnynoname on March 10, 2009, 06:37:12 PM
usain bolt > jay cutler
jay cutler (the football player)> jay cutler the big blonde guy who brushes his teeth 11 times a day
Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there
Post by: spinnis on March 10, 2009, 06:37:41 PM

Whats your point?  As I said...there are many different types of athletes...comparing them is ridiculous. Does Jay have the cardiovascular conditioning of a sprinter...? No....why would he?  The sprinter also couldnt keep up with Jay in the gym...especially on a low carb diet.



my point is, cutler is in no way shape or form an Athlete.
Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there
Post by: Chick on March 10, 2009, 06:38:24 PM
Well I wouldn't call women competing in beauty pageants athletes. Bodybuilders are doing the same thing but they delude themselves by thinking it is about muscle it makes them athletes.

LOL....right
Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there
Post by: chaos on March 10, 2009, 06:39:09 PM
I've always been a athlete...that happened to become a BB....played sports all my life and excelled at every one of them. There are all types of athletes in the world...each has their particular challenges when training, practicing...

walk a mile in my shoes...
You could have made a fuckton more money if you played football instead of pranced around in your underwear for old men.
Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there
Post by: lovemonkey on March 10, 2009, 06:41:02 PM
LOL....right

Well really what's the difference between the two? The girls are going on a stage to get judged by their appearance and so does bodybuilders. A highly subjective "sport" also known as beauty pageants.
Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there
Post by: Chick on March 10, 2009, 06:41:51 PM
You could have made a fuckton more money if you played football instead of pranced around in your underwear for old men.

You must have me confused with someone else...I've never pranced around in my underwear for old men.  What the hell kind of shows have YOU been going to?
Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there
Post by: spinnis on March 10, 2009, 06:43:04 PM
You must have me confused with someone else...I've never pranced around in my underwear for old men.  What the hell kind of shows have YOU been going to?

If you couldn't answer a question With a question ever again, would you cry yourself to sleep every night?
Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there
Post by: johnnynoname on March 10, 2009, 06:43:28 PM
You must have me confused with someone else...I've never pranced around in my underwear for old men.  What the hell kind of shows have YOU been going to?

i would post that pic of chaos in the thong but i don't make a habit of saving any pics of the guys who post here

I know who does though

*PM's fat dave*
Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there
Post by: Chick on March 10, 2009, 06:43:54 PM
Well really what's the difference between the two? The girls are going on a stage to get judged by their appearance and so does bodybuilders. A highly subjective "sport" also known as beauty pageants.

I dont have the time or the patience to explain the differences to you...

Preparing for a BB competition (especially in the pro league) is a greuling 12-14 week process....if you ever did it yourself, you wouldnt be asking "whats the difference"
Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there
Post by: chaos on March 10, 2009, 06:44:33 PM
You must have me confused with someone else...I've never pranced around in my underwear for old men.  What the hell kind of shows have YOU been going to?
I haven't gone to any bodybuilding "shows", but I have been to sporting events, usually held in stadiums, not auditoriums.
Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there
Post by: Chick on March 10, 2009, 06:45:18 PM
If you couldn't answer a question With a question ever again, would you cry yourself to sleep every night?

The first sentence is a STATEMENT, the second is a QUESTION...learn the difference
Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there
Post by: spinnis on March 10, 2009, 06:46:28 PM
The first sentence is a STATEMENT, the second is a QUESTION...learn the difference

you still put a question in your reply didn't you?
Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there
Post by: lovemonkey on March 10, 2009, 06:47:11 PM
I dont have the time or the patience to explain the differences to you...

Preparing for a BB competition (especially in the pro league) is a greuling 12-14 week process....if you ever did it yourself, you wouldnt be asking "whats the difference"

I'm pretty sure female beauty pageants competitors work out too to keep their bodies fit and undertake different treatments to make their skin look better etc. Sounds familiar doesn't it?

I'm not saying that the preparation for a bodybuilding contest is not brutal but that is still irrelevant. You get judged by your appearance and posing skills and no athletic skills required as you said, what could possibly be more beauty pageant than that?
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: spinnis on March 10, 2009, 06:48:04 PM
Chick doesn't know when to stop
Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there
Post by: Chick on March 10, 2009, 06:49:50 PM
I'm pretty sure female beauty pageants competitors work out too to keep their bodies fit and undertake different treatments to make their skin look better etc. Sounds familiar doesn't it?

I'm not saying that the preparation for a bodybuilding contest is not brutal but that is still irrelevant. You get judged by your appearance and posing skills and no athletic skills required as you said, what could possibly be more beauty pageant than that?

I'm sure people that jog and marathon runners are the same as well, right?
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: Tamer Razor on March 10, 2009, 06:49:58 PM
I haven't gone to any bodybuilding "shows", but I have been to sporting events, usually held in stadiums, not auditoriums.

1- I haven't gone to any bodybuilding shows
2-I do not work out
3-I don't have a clue about nutrition and training

Please let us know your Expert opinion..... ::)
Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there
Post by: spinnis on March 10, 2009, 06:52:39 PM
I'm sure people that jog and marathon runners are the same as well, right?

there you go answering with a question again haha
Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there
Post by: lovemonkey on March 10, 2009, 06:55:37 PM
I'm sure people that jog and marathon runners are the same as well, right?

Now you're losing all grasp of reasonable logic....

Marathon runners are in no way judged by their appearance, only their performance. Perhaps "judged" is the wrong word for it, they win and lose quite simply.

Why won't you listen to what our dear friend Wikipedia has to say:

"A beauty contest, or beauty pageant, is a competition based mainly, though not always entirely, on the physical beauty of its contestants, and often incorporating personality, talent demonstration, and question responses as judged criteria. Almost invariably, competitions for men and women are separate events, and those for men are not referred to as beauty contests. Beauty contests for women are more common, and winners are called beauty queens. Beauty contests for men, like Mr. Universe, are more likely to be "body building" contests—quite unlike the traditional "beauty contest" in which women are judged upon many attributes both physical and otherwise. However, in the 1990s, male "beauty contests" began to shift focus. Instead of only considering muscle mass, the competitions began to judge the natural physical attributes of the contestants as well as their physiques. These include Mr. World and Manhunt International."

May not be the best possible source, but it gives a VERY good idea what the general definition is.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: Chick on March 10, 2009, 06:58:52 PM
Obviously, the analogy was lost on you.....
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: chaos on March 10, 2009, 07:01:39 PM
1- I haven't gone to any bodybuilding shows
2-I do not work out
3-I don't have a clue about nutrition and training

Please let us know your Expert opinion..... ::)
Haven't I seen you at Koloseum before? A long time ago?

Only #1 is correct.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on March 10, 2009, 07:02:01 PM
Obviously, the analogy was lost on you.....
oh lord chick youre still online...whenever i log on youre on the g&o melting about something ::)
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: Chick on March 10, 2009, 07:03:46 PM
oh lord chick youre still online...whenever i log on youre on the g&o melting about something ::)

Guess that means you're here as much as I am...
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: lovemonkey on March 10, 2009, 07:04:09 PM
Obviously, the analogy was lost on you.....

And your pride of always having to win a debate is making you dumber than a box of rocks. It's irrelevant how much bodybuilders work out or struggle in order to compete, bodybuilding is still about beauty pageants and bodybuilders are not athletes.

My goodness.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: chaos on March 10, 2009, 07:06:08 PM
And your pride of always having to win a debate is making you dumber than a box of rocks. It's irrelevant how much bodybuilders work out or struggle in order to compete, bodybuilding is still about beauty pageants and bodybuilders are not athletes.

My goodness.
He'll never concede, he'll "rep" his "athletes" until his last breath.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on March 10, 2009, 07:07:33 PM
Guess that means you're here as much as I am...
not today bob-i was biking on the boardwalk while u were on here yelling at getbiggers
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: Chick on March 10, 2009, 07:09:04 PM
And your pride of always having to win a debate is making you dumber than a box of rocks. It's irrelevant how much bodybuilders work out or struggle in order to compete, bodybuilding is still about beauty pageants and bodybuilders are not athletes.

My goodness.

Gotcha...I'm dumb, but you couldnt understand a basic analogy.

Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: chaos on March 10, 2009, 07:09:18 PM
not today bob-i was biking on the boardwalk while u were on here yelling at getbiggers
LMAO, NW comes in with a knockout punch. ;D

Excellent pwnage Gene.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: Chick on March 10, 2009, 07:09:45 PM
not today bob-i was biking on the boardwalk while u were on here yelling at getbiggers

Trolling for men?
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: SUPREME BEING on March 10, 2009, 07:10:51 PM
Lovemonkey is spot on.

How a bodybuilder can consider himself an athlete is beyond me. Lifting weights in a gym following typical bodybuilding workout routines is not very difficult, even if this has to be done twice a day. Add in the dieting come gay contest time then any man with a little bit of willpower would succeed. Being judged by ones looks and muscles is a beauty pageant and there is nothing athletic involved. Are we to assume their is skill in ones genetics to be able to respond to the bucket load of drugs these clowns take.

Bodybuilding is based on looks and the only skill involved is who has the best genetics to respond to the drugs or the best pharmaceutical advice. Anyone who thinks just because they workout hard in a gym following a bodybuilding routine makes them an athlete is deluded.

Power-lifting or strongmen are athletes however as they compete against each other on feats of strength which test skill, technique, strength and endurance as well as many other athletic traits.

Just think about how many dirty gay ass bodybuilders there could be from all the gym rats out there in the world if given the right combination of drugs. However, not many would ever have the skill or attributes to ever become a professional in most other major sports.

Brock Lesnar has shown what real training is in that video, now some gay ass thong wearing bodybuilder will show up to say how they are athletes because they show up to a gym twice a day and lift weights.

End this argument right now this whole thing is absurd, obviously this Bob Chick guy will never be able to see through his clouded biased lenses as he has spent a big proportion of his life following a particularly peculiar hobby.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: lovemonkey on March 10, 2009, 07:11:34 PM
Gotcha...I'm dumb, but you couldnt understand a basic analogy.



Well I understood it, but you failed to realize that my earlier post had made that analogy irrelevant. You just keep running around in the same circle.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on March 10, 2009, 07:13:37 PM
Trolling for men?
lol only your dirty mind would turn biking into a henious activity--there were hardly any people on the boardwalk becasue of the frigid weather
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: lovemonkey on March 10, 2009, 07:14:53 PM
lol only your dirty mind would turn biking into a henious activity--there were hardly any people on the boardwalk becasue of the frigid weather

I like it how nw83 is usually very kind and meek, but when it comes to Bob Chick he's quite the devil. You go man.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: Chick on March 10, 2009, 07:17:59 PM
Well I understood it, but you failed to realize that my earlier post had made that analogy irrelevant. You just keep running around in the same circle.

If that were true, you wouldnt have come back with an asinine comment about how runners arent concerned with their appearance....

You're backpeddling now to try and save face....give it up

Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: Tamer Razor on March 10, 2009, 07:20:50 PM
A Pro bodybuilder Physique requires at average 10 to 15 year of extremely intense training, impeccable nutrition. The sacrifices and extreme requiremets to success in bodybuilding is undeniably among the most rigid and Strenuous. The comparison to a Peagent is ignorance at best, at it show absolutely no knowledge of bodybuilding and the demands necessary. I should not be surprise as many feel that soccer isn't a sport either.... ::)
Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there
Post by: lovemonkey on March 10, 2009, 07:25:50 PM
The analogy you tried to make was very obvious but I couldn't honestly believe you'd be so dumb to go there. That's why I made this statement at first and thought I had to re convince you of my entire argument.

Now you're losing all grasp of reasonable logic....
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on March 10, 2009, 07:26:02 PM
Most bodybuilders are happy doing the same 9 or 12 sets per bodypart per week year after year, while athletes try to increase the volume and intensity of their workouts (their ability to do more work). There are no pro athlete who doesn't train multiple times per day, while most bodybuilders train max 1 time per day. These are the crucial differences in the training of the bodybuilders and athletes.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: Chick on March 10, 2009, 07:29:26 PM
Most bodybuilders are happy doing the same 9 or 12 sets per bodypart per week year after year, while athletes try to increase the volume and intensity of their workouts (their ability to do more work). There are no pro athlete who doesn't train multiple times per day, while most bodybuilders train max 1 time per day. These are the crucial differences in the training of the bodybuilders and athletes.

Spoken like someone who has zero knowledge of pro bodybuilding...thanks for contributing
Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there
Post by: Chick on March 10, 2009, 07:31:45 PM
The analogy you tried to make was very obvious but I couldn't honestly believe you'd be so dumb to go there. That's why I made this statement at first and thought I had to re convince you of my entire argument.


It was obvious...to anyone but yourself.

Likening pro bodybuilding to a beauty pageant is the same as comparing jogging to marathon running....not to tough to understand, and as sound an analogy as it gets.

Amazing how you can speak on a subject you have no personal knowledge of...ignorant at best. 
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: lovemonkey on March 10, 2009, 07:32:14 PM
I'd say Paul Dillet is a perfect example of just how lazy bodybuilders can be(not saying everyone is). I guarantee you, with his lack of dedication he would not break the top ten of a single sport in the world. Except bodybuilding.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on March 10, 2009, 07:32:32 PM
Spoken like someone who has zero knowledge of pro bodybuilding...thanks for contributing

 ::)
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: chaos on March 10, 2009, 07:33:55 PM
A Pro bodybuilder Physique requires at average 10 to 15 year of extremely intense training, impeccable nutrition. The sacrifices and extreme requiremets to success in bodybuilding is undeniably among the most rigid and Strenuous. The comparison to a Peagent is ignorance at best, at it show absolutely no knowledge of bodybuilding and the demands necessary. I should not be surprise as many feel that soccer isn't a sport either.... ::)
Soccer is a sport, bbing is not.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on March 10, 2009, 07:35:51 PM
Spoken like someone who has zero knowledge of pro bodybuilding...thanks for contributing
bob can u please start showing some respect to the fans-i dont think thats a big thing to ask of u
remember-u are held to a higher standard than others and some look up to u and try to emulate u
remember-u should lead by example not by exception
but most importantly-besides being a pro bb, a movie star, an announcer, a radio dj,a writer, and an athletes rep-u are a human-u should treat others the way u want to be treated
thanks
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: io856 on March 10, 2009, 07:36:28 PM
I'd say Paul Dillet is a perfect example of just how lazy bodybuilders can be(not saying everyone is). I guarantee you, with his lack of dedication he would not break the top ten of a single sport in the world. Except bodybuilding.
What does this have to with it?
Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there
Post by: lovemonkey on March 10, 2009, 07:36:55 PM
It was obvious...to anyone but yourself.

Likening pro bodybuilding to a beauty pageant is the same as comparing jogging to marathon running....not to tough to understand, and as sound an analogy as it gets.

Amazing how you can speak on a subject you have no personal knowledge of...ignorant at best. 

Wow actually I have to admit I did not understand you correctly when you put it that way but it's not for the better for you, gosh.

How many times do I have to tell you this?

It's irrelevant how much bodybuilders work out or struggle in order to compete, bodybuilding is still about beauty pageants and bodybuilders are not athletes.

Anything else is just illogical wish thinking from your side. As said, just because it's about the bothersome (?) development of muscles doesn't automatically make them athletes.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: Chick on March 10, 2009, 07:37:01 PM
I'd say Paul Dillet is a perfect example of just how lazy bodybuilders can be(not saying everyone is). I guarantee you, with his lack of dedication he would not break the top ten of a single sport in the world. Except bodybuilding.

Dillett was the very definition of being the exception, not the rule...and as poor a example as you could have come up with...
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: Tamer Razor on March 10, 2009, 07:38:50 PM
Most bodybuilders are happy doing the same 9 or 12 sets per bodypart per week year after year, while athletes try to increase the volume and intensity of their workouts (their ability to do more work). There are no pro athlete who doesn't train multiple times per day, while most bodybuilders train max 1 time per day. These are the crucial differences in the training of the bodybuilders and athletes.

It would be to your best benefit to inform yourself before making such an ignorant statement. Bodybuilders are often performing couple sessions of cardio, plus couple sessions of resistance training daily at LEAST for 12 to 16 weeks before contest. This obviously does not include the extremely precise nutrition required for 6 to 8 meals daily. This is a 24 hours focus requirement daily.I can not even respond to your statement regarding increase in volume and intensity,even that most uninformed person about bodybuilding would say such stupidity. Please educate yourself before next time.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: Chick on March 10, 2009, 07:38:56 PM
Soccer is a sport, bbing is not.

Great....so go spend your time on "getsoccer.com"
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: lovemonkey on March 10, 2009, 07:41:38 PM
What does this have to with it?

I'm partly trying to make the point that bodybuilding does not necessarily require the same work ethic as actual sports does. It's mostly all genetics and drugs.

Flex Wheeler also demonstrated a lack of willpower that would automatically unable him to crack any top ten in any other sport than bodybuilding. Kamali works out like a bitch as well, even I have more guts than him in the gym. And he cracked the top ten at olympia if I remember correctly!
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on March 10, 2009, 07:43:08 PM
Pro athlete might have 4 years worth of training planned out before hand. Within one year the athlete goes trough many different training blocks, all containing different training and athletic goals. Bodybuilding is always the same with no real programs and possibly no real goals either. The eating changes from the offseason to the onseason and vice versa, that is mostly it.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: chaos on March 10, 2009, 07:43:29 PM
Great....so go spend your time on "getsoccer.com"
Why? This is getbig not getrippedandposeforoldme ninyourunderwear.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: Tamer Razor on March 10, 2009, 07:45:26 PM
I'm partly trying to make the point that bodybuilding does not necessarily require the same work ethic as actual sports does. It's mostly all genetics and drugs.

Flex Wheeler also demonstrated a lack of willpower that would automatically unable him to crack any top ten in any other sport than bodybuilding. Kamali works out like a bitch as well, even I have more guts than him in the gym. And he cracked the top ten at olympia if I remember correctly!

You have more guts than king Kamali....Great maybe you could be a Pro ....Of course you just don't want to.... ::)
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on March 10, 2009, 07:45:48 PM
Why? This is getbig not getrippedandposeforoldme ninyourunderwear.

 ;D
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: chaos on March 10, 2009, 07:46:54 PM
You have more guts than king Kamali....Great maybe you could be a Pro ....Of course you just don't want to.... ::)
Are you a pro?
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: lovemonkey on March 10, 2009, 07:47:47 PM
I just don't understand why Chick has to go to the lengths he does with his arguments.

No matter how much he screams "athlete" whenever he sees a bodybuilder, it will neither add or subtract from the effort put up by the bodybuilder in question.

Ok, many bodybuilders bust their ass in the gym, the kitchen.... and the pharmacy.I acknowledge it. But the differences in the definition of sports and beauty pageants still remain.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: Chick on March 10, 2009, 07:48:14 PM
I'm partly trying to make the point that bodybuilding does not necessarily require the same work ethic as actual sports does. It's mostly all genetics and drugs.

Flex Wheeler also demonstrated a lack of willpower that would automatically unable him to crack any top ten in any other sport than bodybuilding. Kamali works out like a bitch as well, even I have more guts than him in the gym. And he cracked the top ten at olympia if I remember correctly!

As already explained...it requires DIFFERENT work ethic....we dont train for things we have no use of for our sport, just as other athletes dont focus on things that dont come into play for theirs.....linemen in the NFL dont work on catching passes, or running plays as a running back....

Flex Wheeler wasn't trying to crack the top 10 of any other sport....
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: SUPREME BEING on March 10, 2009, 07:48:56 PM
It would be to your best benefit to inform yourself before making such an ignorant statement. Bodybuilders are often performing couple sessions of cardio, plus couple sessions of resistance training daily at LEAST for 12 to 16 weeks before contest. This obviously does not include the extremely precise nutrition required for 6 to 8 meals daily. This is a 24 hours focus requirement daily.I can not even respond to your statement regarding increase in volume and intensity,even that most uninformed person about bodybuilding would say such stupidity. Please educate yourself before next time.

Your a freaking moron.

Most healthy educated people i know perform cardio daily and make it to the gym daily. They also look after their diet daily year in year out, obviously not to the extent bodybuilders do. However, the only thing that stops these people from attempting to becoming bodybuilders is: 1. They are sane and realise what a fringe disgusting thing bodybuilding is. 2. They do not want to mess with their health to become a big bloated disgusting mess.

Nearly every woman in America tries to diet at one time or another and a lot can stick to diets religiously. Madonna trains everyday often over 4 hours a day doing a variety of different training exercises and she has a stricter diet than most bodybuilders have ever seen. Is she to be considered an athlete for the way she looks?

You guys are pathetic, bodybuilding is a beauty pageant with drugs thrown in period. Most people in this world view it as a homosexual disgusting drug fueled sport. I say sport but obviously this is no sport as the winner is awarded victory based on looks. Pathetic some of you guys don't realise this.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: Chick on March 10, 2009, 07:49:36 PM
Why? This is getbig not getrippedandposeforoldme ninyourunderwear.

Well...no wonder you make the stupid comments you do...you're on the wrong site!

scram...
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on March 10, 2009, 07:49:53 PM
As already explained...it requires DIFFERENT work ethic....we dont train for things we have no use of for our sport, just as other athletes dont focus on things that dont come into play for theirs.....linemen in the NFL dont work on catching passes, or running plays as a running back....

Flex Wheeler wasn't trying to crack the top 10 of any other sport....
what about bodybuilder wrestlers?
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on March 10, 2009, 07:51:04 PM
Well...no wonder you make the stupid comments you do...you're on the wrong site!

scram...
how can u talk to your fellow positive board mod like that?
go back to the west coast! east coast has had enough of your commentaries!
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: lovemonkey on March 10, 2009, 07:51:10 PM
You have more guts than king Kamali....Great maybe you could be a Pro ....Of course you just don't want to.... ::)

No you stupid ignorant "person". I talked about the effort put up in the gym. And that's exactly my point, to be a pro it requires genetics and a helluva lot of drugs. Training is secondary.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: lovemonkey on March 10, 2009, 07:52:33 PM
As already explained...it requires DIFFERENT work ethic....we dont train for things we have no use of for our sport, just as other athletes dont focus on things that dont come into play for theirs.....linemen in the NFL dont work on catching passes, or running plays as a running back....

Flex Wheeler wasn't trying to crack the top 10 of any other sport....

I never said that. I only talked about the willpower and dedication and how a lack of it can still take you to the top of the bodybuilding elite. Are you slow?
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: chaos on March 10, 2009, 07:53:12 PM
how can u talk to your fellow positive board mod like that?
go back to the west coast! east coast has had enough of your commentaries!
East coast is stuck with him Gene, he burned his bridges out West and has to stay out there until things "cool off".

Well...no wonder you make the stupid comments you do...you're on the wrong site!

scram...
Say what you will Chick, no amount of banter will convince anyone it's a sport or that these guys are athletes.

And I've seen your most recent pics........you really should get back "on". :-X
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: lovemonkey on March 10, 2009, 07:56:25 PM
And I've seen your most recent pics........you really should get back "on". :-X

Dude, I'll let you in on a secret... they're only a finishing touch!  :o
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: Earl1972 on March 10, 2009, 08:41:54 PM
When there are dudes out there training like this every damn day!







john daly doesn't train that hard, guess he can't call himself an athlete either

E
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: lovemonkey on March 10, 2009, 08:44:36 PM
john daly doesn't train that hard, guess he can't call himself an athlete either

E

Exactly, how hard you train is irrelevant.

It's irrelevant how much bodybuilders work out or struggle in order to compete, bodybuilding is still about beauty pageants and bodybuilders are not athletes.
Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there
Post by: Earl1972 on March 10, 2009, 08:44:43 PM
I haven't gone to any bodybuilding "shows", but I have been to sporting events, usually held in stadiums, not auditoriums.

you have zero posts on the sports forum

the only sport you care about is bodybuilding

E
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: Earl1972 on March 10, 2009, 08:45:47 PM
Exactly, how hard you train is irrelevant.


the point is golfers and bodybuilders by definition are athletes

E
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: chaos on March 10, 2009, 08:49:17 PM
Dude, I'll let you in on a secret... they're only a finishing touch!  :o
HAhAa Sounds like a chickerdildo spin if I've ever heard one.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: lovemonkey on March 10, 2009, 08:51:42 PM
the point is golfers and bodybuilders by definition are athletes

E

Oh brother, do I have to rehash this a million times? There is no athletic skill involved in bodybuilding.

Why won't you listen to what our dear friend Wikipedia has to say:

"A beauty contest, or beauty pageant, is a competition based mainly, though not always entirely, on the physical beauty of its contestants, and often incorporating personality, talent demonstration, and question responses as judged criteria. Almost invariably, competitions for men and women are separate events, and those for men are not referred to as beauty contests. Beauty contests for women are more common, and winners are called beauty queens. Beauty contests for men, like Mr. Universe, are more likely to be "body building" contests—quite unlike the traditional "beauty contest" in which women are judged upon many attributes both physical and otherwise. However, in the 1990s, male "beauty contests" began to shift focus. Instead of only considering muscle mass, the competitions began to judge the natural physical attributes of the contestants as well as their physiques. These include Mr. World and Manhunt International."

May not be the best possible source, but it gives a VERY good idea what the general definition is.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: gordiano on March 10, 2009, 08:52:42 PM
the point is golfers and bodybuilders by definition are athletes

E

If you want top play the old "definition" or "dictionary" card, then, Comp. bbing is a pageant, Earl.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: Captain Equipoise on March 10, 2009, 08:55:10 PM
Your a freaking moron.

Most healthy educated people i know perform cardio daily and make it to the gym daily. They also look after their diet daily year in year out, obviously not to the extent bodybuilders do. However, the only thing that stops these people from attempting to becoming bodybuilders is: 1. They are sane and realise what a fringe disgusting thing bodybuilding is. 2. They do not want to mess with their health to become a big bloated disgusting mess.

Nearly every woman in America tries to diet at one time or another and a lot can stick to diets religiously. Madonna trains everyday often over 4 hours a day doing a variety of different training exercises and she has a stricter diet than most bodybuilders have ever seen. Is she to be considered an athlete for the way she looks?

You guys are pathetic, bodybuilding is a beauty pageant with drugs thrown in period. Most people in this world view it as a homosexual disgusting drug fueled sport. I say sport but obviously this is no sport as the winner is awarded victory based on looks. Pathetic some of you guys don't realise this.

Quoted for pure 100% fucking truth that a lot of people on here can't seem to handle, all these pro bb'ers have this fantasy stuck in their head that everybody who trains and lifts weights worships them and wants to look like them.  I want to let you in on a little secret... WE DON'T , I want to look good, be healthy and have some nice muscle/size , I don't wan to be a bloated , lazy sack of shit with a  45" gh gut competing for $5 plastic trophy.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: tweeter on March 10, 2009, 08:56:33 PM
Yes, bodybuilders are the most superior athletes in the known universe.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: Shawdow on March 10, 2009, 08:57:47 PM
lol people who have 10000+ posts on a bodybuilding forum talking about how gay it is, lol priceless
major self ownage
I have a question for yall, if you hate it so much why are you on a website that is about professional bodybuilding, folks?
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: gordiano on March 10, 2009, 08:58:19 PM
Quoted for pure 100% fucking truth that a lot of people on here can't seem to handle, all these pro bb'ers have this fantasy stuck in their head that everybody who trains and lifts weights worships them and wants to look like them.  I want to let you in on a little secret... WE DON'T , I want to look good, be healthy and have some nice muscle/size , I don't wan to be a bloated , lazy sack of shit with a  45" gh gut competing for $5 plastic trophy.


Ouch...that's the second E-spanking I've read tonight.......
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: Shawdow on March 10, 2009, 09:01:18 PM
Ouch...that's the second E-spanking I've read tonight.......

tell us more about how gay bodybuilding is
with your 15000 posts on a bodybuilding forum
shawn ray in your avatar putting on makeup
and under it saying "team cute penis"

please, go on, tell us how gay it is lol
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: Shawdow on March 10, 2009, 09:02:56 PM
HAhAa Sounds like a chickerdildo spin if I've ever heard one.

are you not the man with egg head and cankles in those pictures that people are laughing about all around the site?
maybe you should take up bodybuilding not look like you have a wasting disease
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: lovemonkey on March 10, 2009, 09:03:01 PM
lol people who have 10000+ posts on a bodybuilding forum talking about how gay it is, lol priceless
major self ownage
I have a question for yall, if you hate it so much why are you on a website that is about professional bodybuilding, folks?

Because most of us, believe it or not, enjoy working out and building muscles. And through this forum (a great community BTW) we've found out that bodybuilding is on the verge of being a circus joke and it's quite humorous and entertaining. Therefore we stick around, having fun. Laughing, crying in laughter sometimes.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: lovemonkey on March 10, 2009, 09:04:12 PM
are you not the man with egg head and cankles in those pictures that people are laughing about all around the site?
maybe you should take up bodybuilding not look like you have a wasting disease

I used to give chaos shit, be he is actually pretty cool. He is not a conehead, look up the original thread.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: Shawdow on March 10, 2009, 09:06:07 PM
Because most of us, believe it or not, enjoy working out and building muscles. And through this forum (a great community BTW) we've found out that bodybuilding is on the verge of being a circus joke and it's quite humorous and entertaining. Therefore we stick around, having fun. Laughing, crying in laughter sometimes.

that's funny, you have zero posts on the training board
there are other websites about weight training, you did not have to come to one about professional bodybuilding
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: Shawdow on March 10, 2009, 09:09:14 PM
I used to give chaos shit, be he is actually pretty cool. He is not a conehead, look up the original thread.

so the cankles, prison tatoos, moobs, lack of muscle, ugly face, bald head, unsuccessful look, stupid looking beard, hobo clothes
were all fake?
got it.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: lovemonkey on March 10, 2009, 09:09:28 PM
that's funny, you have zero posts on the training board
there are other websites about weight training, you did not have to come to one about professional bodybuilding

You're not exactly contributing much yourself there, "Shawdow".

And most threads on training usually arise on the g&o anyway.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: lovemonkey on March 10, 2009, 09:10:28 PM
so the cankles, prison tatoos, moobs, lack of muscle, ugly face, bald head, unsuccessful look, stupid looking beard, hobo clothes
were all fake?
got it.

Chaos, you wanna take this one?
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: Shawdow on March 10, 2009, 09:11:43 PM
You're not exactly contributing much yourself there, "Shawdow".

And most threads on training usually arise on the g&o anyway.

I have 4 threads on the training board right now, you said you like to learn how to build muscles yet you have zero posts on there
my question still has not been answered, if you people think bodybuilding is gay why do you have 10000+ posts on this website?
does that not make you gay?
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: Shawdow on March 10, 2009, 09:12:27 PM
Chaos, you wanna take this one?

lol
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on March 10, 2009, 09:13:11 PM
that's funny, you have zero posts on the training board
there are other websites about weight training, you did not have to come to one about professional bodybuilding

Nice stalking, fanboy.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: lovemonkey on March 10, 2009, 09:13:49 PM
I have 4 threads on the training board right now, you said you like to learn how to build muscles yet you have zero posts on there
my question still has not been answered, if you people think bodybuilding is gay why do you have 10000+ posts on this website?
does that not make you gay?

Hit your head hard against the desk twice, have a cup of coffee and restart. Now read my post again:

Because most of us, believe it or not, enjoy working out and building muscles. And through this forum (a great community BTW) we've found out that bodybuilding is on the verge of being a circus joke and it's quite humorous and entertaining. Therefore we stick around, having fun. Laughing, crying in laughter sometimes.

And then look at my fucking post count you imbecile.
Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there
Post by: Shawdow on March 10, 2009, 09:15:29 PM
There are people out there thinking they are athletes.

Bob Chic for example.


lol


dude, you have accounts on 4 other bodybuilding forums
if you hate bodybuilding so much, again, why are you obsessed about it so much?
you probably spend 10 hours a day on bodybuilding forums.
Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there a d
Post by: Shawdow on March 10, 2009, 09:16:58 PM
look at his fucking hands lol

a true MONSTER:

(http://i44.tinypic.com/2e56tqs.jpg)

yes, just imagine how small you with your 5'4 frame would look next to him if this guy is 5'8
Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there a d
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on March 10, 2009, 09:18:11 PM
yes, just imagine how small you with your 5'4 frame would look next to him if this guy is 5'8


Don't let the hate consume you.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: Shawdow on March 10, 2009, 09:19:09 PM
Hit your head hard against the desk twice, have a cup of coffee and restart. Now read my post again:

And then look at my fucking post count you imbecile.

i was not referring to you 'love monkey'
the guys who bash bodybuilding always look terrible
do you?
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: lovemonkey on March 10, 2009, 09:20:21 PM
i was not referring to you 'love monkey'
the guys who bash bodybuilding always look terrible
do you?

You quoted my post specifically, are you slow?
Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there a d
Post by: Shawdow on March 10, 2009, 09:20:39 PM
Don't let the hate consume you.

not here not hate, just defending the sport I love.  he made that statement poiting how bodybuilders are short
while he is considered to be short even in bodybuilding
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: Shawdow on March 10, 2009, 09:21:56 PM
You quoted my post specifically, are you slow?

No, I would say i am brighter than most.  I just grouped you with the rest of bodybuilding haters.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: lovemonkey on March 10, 2009, 09:26:04 PM
No, I would say i am brighter than most.  I just grouped you with the rest of bodybuilding haters.

You could very well have the intellect to match Einsten, but you're sure as hell not using it.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on March 10, 2009, 09:29:45 PM
 Bodybuilder is just a guy full of drugs, that's it. for pain, you take this. for strength you take that. and there you go.
 If he's stop taking all that crap, he's gone. nothing zero.
 Hard working athlete. ::)
 All drugs.

  8)
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: Shawdow on March 10, 2009, 09:36:01 PM
Bodybuilder is just a guy full of drugs, that's it. for pain, you take this. for strength you take that. and there you go.
 If he's stop taking all that crap, he's gone. nothing zero.
 Hard working athlete. ::)
 All drugs.

  8)

lol
how would you explain contests then?
if they all take steroids, then why can there only be one winner?
you think it's as simple as taking drugs?
do you have any idea how many people in local gyms take the same things that guys competing for Mr. Olympia take
yet will never make it?
how about those who never turn pro even though they use a pharmacy load of drugs?
Kai Greene won natural shows and had a physique you could never achieve even with drugs.
how does that feel?
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: Lion666 on March 10, 2009, 09:36:26 PM
after watching that tell me how mir is gonna combat that animal.....
you know who will win the fight ( 9 outta 10 times ) before the fight just by the way they train.... the fight is just a formality....
look at the lead up to the lesnar hearing fight...... brock was busting a$$ in the gym and hearing was lollygaggin' on the lat pulldown machine & doing some crunches....
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: gordiano on March 10, 2009, 09:36:32 PM
Because most of us, believe it or not, enjoy working out and building muscles. And through this forum (a great community BTW) we've found out that bodybuilding is on the verge of being a circus joke and it's quite humorous and entertaining. Therefore we stick around, having fun. Laughing, crying in laughter sometimes.

Well said. To top it off, this entire forum transcends bbing, look around people. We discuss just about everything here.....we got a fucking pet board for christ' sake.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: Shawdow on March 10, 2009, 09:38:33 PM
Well said. To top it off, this entire forum transcends bbing, look around people. We discuss just about everything here.....we got a fucking pet board for christ' sake.

that doesn't change the fact that you have 15000 posts, shawn ray putting on makeup in your avatar, and nasser's penis in your profile statement.
you are so not gay :D
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: gordiano on March 10, 2009, 09:38:36 PM
after watching that tell me how mir is gonna combat that animal.....
you know who will win the fight ( 9 outta 10 times ) before the fight just by the way they train.... the fight is just a formality....
look at the lead up to the lesnar hearing fight...... brock was busting a$$ in the gym and hearing was lollygaggin' on the lat pulldown machine & doing some crunches....

Yep.....remember that interview Ron did with Mir? I swear, it almost sounded like Mir was trying to talk himself into believing he could win....

Brock is a fucking beast. Inexperience cost him the last time. If he ever puts it together...look out.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: gordiano on March 10, 2009, 09:40:15 PM
tell us more about how gay bodybuilding is
with your 15000 posts on a bodybuilding forum
shawn ray in your avatar putting on makeup
and under it saying "team cute penis"

please, go on, tell us how gay it is lol

You are obviously too stupid to realize the fucking ironies you just mentioned. Do I have to explain them to you?
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: gordiano on March 10, 2009, 09:41:29 PM
You could very well have the intellect to match Einsten, but you're sure as hell not using it.

STING!
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: Captain Equipoise on March 10, 2009, 09:41:38 PM
Yep.....remember that interview Ron did with Mir? I swear, it almost sounded like Mir was trying to talk himself into believing he could win....

Brock is a fucking beast. Inexperience cost him the last time. If he ever puts it together...look out.

Mir's gotten way tooo cocky, it's unsubstantiated, he has no basis for his new found cockiness, in their first fight Lesnar mauled him for 1:30  before the ref stopped the fight because of a supposed ilegal blow to the back of Mir's head, even Mir said in a post fight interview that he was just surviving through that fight.

Now all of a sudden he thinks he's the no.1 heavyweight in the world...monster delusions, just because he won over a beat up and battered Noguiera.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: Shawdow on March 10, 2009, 09:42:35 PM
You are obviously too stupid to realize the fucking ironies you just mentioned. Do I have to explain them to you?

explain to me how you hate bodybuilding and have 15000 posts on the website about professional bodybuilding.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: gordiano on March 10, 2009, 09:46:36 PM
Mir's gotten way tooo cocky, it's unsubstantiated, he has no basis for his new found cockiness, in their first fight Lesnar mauled him for 1:30  before the ref stopped the fight because of a supposed ilegal blow to the back of Mir's head, even Mir said in a post fight interview that he was just surviving through that fight.

Now all of a sudden he thinks he's the no.1 heavyweight in the world...monster delusions, just because he won over a beat up and battered Noguiera.


I'm surprised he admitted to that. He was catching a beating, no doubt.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on March 10, 2009, 09:47:17 PM
lol
how would you explain contests then?
if they all take steroids, then why can there only be one winner?
you think it's as simple as taking drugs?
do you have any idea how many people in local gyms take the same things that guys competing for Mr. Olympia take
yet will never make it?
how about those who never turn pro even though they use a pharmacy load of drugs?
Kai Greene won natural shows and had a physique you could never achieve even with drugs.
how does that feel?


 Well. better body? hmmmmmmm that is relative.
 He is bigger than me. but..
 I can make him tap in less than 3 minutes. how about that?
 And you really believe that a gym rat take more than a pro.
 
  8)
 
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: Lion666 on March 10, 2009, 09:48:54 PM
and as far as bb'rs not being athletes..... well some guys lazily drag their way through the gym yes,,,, and base everything on drugs, sure but these guys usually aren't champs, again there is an exception to every rule but the majority of the time..... look at ronnie, he was a football player.....
allota guys got into bb because of sports and the training and probally found that they like the training more than the sport..... like chick said he was an athlete before he was a bb'r......
some bb'rs   do oly lifts and power lifts to enhance their strength & improve cns to get better results.... ie, bigger muscles....
means to an end......
politics aside.....  others could play that, me i'm not an ifbb pro so.... my opinion in that arena counts for 0 but gotta go with bob chick....
my own feelings are that some bodybuilders are athletes..... even the ones who take drugs..... anyone every see mark kerr the smashing machine......  he took juice and nubain and he was a mma champ, college wres champ etc......   and wrestlers too..... there can't be anyone that denies these guys are athletes even though the outcome is planned but the move require strength, agility, cordination etc what ev...

an athlete can be someone that can perform a physical tast that a "normal " untrained person cannot or would have extreme diffuculty doing....

hey chick..... some people know some don't...... maybe it's the ones that "know" keep you on this board....  which is something everyone oughtta appriciate and respect..... whether they like your ifbb politics or not..... not like it matters to them because they are not pros so..... but everyone is entitled to an opinion which is nice when they are heard.....  and the evidence can be see, you do listen and respond, even to the "boneheads"....  again everyone can respect you for that....   you are our "inside guy"... it's cool.... most pros run from this site.... you stay....
credit where credit is due
 8)  
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: gordiano on March 10, 2009, 09:49:41 PM
Well. better body? hmmmmmmm that is relative.
 He is bigger than me. but..
 I can make him tap in less than 3 minutes. how about that?
 And you really believe that a gym rat take more than a pro.
 
  8)
 

Don't bother trying...this guy is an idiot. His questions have been answered repeatedly, and he's still not happy. 
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: Lion666 on March 10, 2009, 09:51:37 PM
yeah tony atlas wasn't an athlete  ::)
c'mon
bb'r to wrestler..... a non athlete couldn't dream of doing either or.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on March 10, 2009, 09:56:10 PM
and as far as bb'rs not being athletes..... well some guys lazily drag their way through the gym yes,,,, and base everything on drugs, sure but these guys usually aren't champs, again there is an exception to every rule but the majority of the time..... look at ronnie, he was a football player.....
allota guys got into bb because of sports and the training and probally found that they like the training more than the sport..... like chick said he was an athlete before he was a bb'r......
some bb'rs   do oly lifts and power lifts to enhance their strength & improve cns to get better results.... ie, bigger muscles....
means to an end......
politics aside.....  others could play that, me i'm not an ifbb pro so.... my opinion in that arena counts for 0 but gotta go with bob chick....
my own feelings are that some bodybuilders are athletes..... even the ones who take drugs..... anyone every see mark kerr the smashing machine......  he took juice and nubain and he was a mma champ, college wres champ etc......   and wrestlers too..... there can't be anyone that denies these guys are athletes even though the outcome is planned but the move require strength, agility, cordination etc what ev...

an athlete can be someone that can perform a physical tast that a "normal " untrained person cannot or would have extreme diffuculty doing....

hey chick..... some people know some don't...... maybe it's the ones that "know" keep you on this board....  which is something everyone oughtta appriciate and respect..... whether they like your ifbb politics or not..... not like it matters to them because they are not pros so..... but everyone is entitled to an opinion which is nice when they are heard.....  and the evidence can be see, you do listen and respond, even to the "boneheads"....  again everyone can respect you for that....   you are our "inside guy"... it's cool.... most pros run from this site.... you stay....
credit where credit is due
 8)  

 When a mention BB and drugs i didn't meant disrespect anybody.
 But. you mention Mark Kerr. OK. one. bodybuilders all of then.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: Lion666 on March 10, 2009, 09:57:01 PM
no one can deny that atlas was an athlete and guess what he was a bodybuilder 1st,,, then a wrestler.... gee " normal" every guys that hang in the bars every weekend can do that.... either or...... thats why during football season every " normal guy" has a beer in his hand watching guys on tv...... because they're athletes too.... 

some bodybuilders are athletes.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: gordiano on March 10, 2009, 09:58:50 PM
no one can deny that atlas was an athlete and guess what he was a bodybuilder 1st,,, then a wrestler.... gee " normal" every guys that hang in the bars every weekend can do that.... either or...... thats why during football season every " normal guy" has a beer in his hand watching guys on tv...... because they're athletes too.... 

some bodybuilders are athletes.

Of course Atlas was an athlete. Who said he wasn't?
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: Lion666 on March 10, 2009, 09:59:28 PM
When a mention BB and drugs i didn't meant disrespect anybody.
 But. you mention Mark Kerr. OK. one. bodybuilders all of then.

graciejj,,,, i'm just sayin' some bbr's are athletes certainly not all, I'm not completely delusional only on the weekends & holidays...
kerr and make tony atlas number 2.... gimme another month and I'll have 3 gracie  ;)
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: drmarkp on March 10, 2009, 10:04:54 PM
And your pride of always having to win a debate is making you dumber than a box of rocks. It's irrelevant how much bodybuilders work out or struggle in order to compete, bodybuilding is still about beauty pageants and bodybuilders are not athletes.

My goodness.

Definition of men who come on Get Big to put down bodybuilding = Self loathing, latent homosexual
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: BB on March 10, 2009, 10:25:54 PM
Are models athletes? they train and diet down in order to achieve a look much like a bb does.

In terms of the athleticism of the strength sports, the order should go:

1) Strongman/Highland Games

2) Olympic Lifting

3) Powerlifting

 
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: lovemonkey on March 10, 2009, 10:40:14 PM
Definition of men who come on Get Big to put down bodybuilding = Self loathing, latent homosexual

A LOT of gimmicks around here lately.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: FullROM on March 10, 2009, 11:07:00 PM
how much did he make from wwe wrestling?
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: luvvsuNOT on March 10, 2009, 11:43:04 PM
I'm not a huge fan of BB as a sport but they are indeed athletes as defined in the dictionary. Maybe posing on stage does not seem "athletic" in the sense we tend to think of them anymore than we think of a golfer or a bowler as athletes but I consider the BB lifestyle, due to it's all consuming nature, to be one of the hardest sports out there. Everything you do in your life pertains to your training in a way that is incomprehensible to normal people but just part of the game to the competitor that he doesn't even give it a second thought. Eating becomes bulking/cutting/nutrition, sleeping becomes recovery, even consistent drug use is no easy tasks. The tought of injecting one's self even once a week let a lone everyday is beyond what any average person is willing to endure. And not to mention the consistent, brutal training that must be endured for years on end before you can even think about competing. And about the pain.... The sacrifices that have to be made is far beyond the realm of the average Joe.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: lovemonkey on March 10, 2009, 11:50:02 PM
I'm not a huge fan of BB as a sport but they are indeed athletes as defined in the dictionary. Maybe posing on stage does not seem "athletic" in the sense we tend to think of them anymore than we think of a golfer or a bowler as athletes but I consider the BB lifestyle, due to it's all consuming nature, to be one of the hardest sports out there. Everything you do in your life pertains to your training in a way that is incomprehensible to normal people but just part of the game to the competitor that he doesn't even give it a second thought. Eating becomes bulking/cutting/nutrition, sleeping becomes recovery, even consistent drug use is no easy tasks. The tought of injecting one's self even once a week let a lone everyday is beyond what any average person is willing to endure. And not to mention the consistent, brutal training that must be endured for years on end before you can even think about competing. And about the pain.... The sacrifices that have to be made is far beyond the realm of the average Joe.

The training is irrelevant. I bet beauty pageants queens go through a lot of shit as well, but it's still a beauty pageant. Read this please if you can be bothered:

Quote
Why won't you listen to what our dear friend Wikipedia has to say:

"A beauty contest, or beauty pageant, is a competition based mainly, though not always entirely, on the physical beauty of its contestants, and often incorporating personality, talent demonstration, and question responses as judged criteria. Almost invariably, competitions for men and women are separate events, and those for men are not referred to as beauty contests. Beauty contests for women are more common, and winners are called beauty queens. Beauty contests for men, like Mr. Universe, are more likely to be "body building" contests—quite unlike the traditional "beauty contest" in which women are judged upon many attributes both physical and otherwise. However, in the 1990s, male "beauty contests" began to shift focus. Instead of only considering muscle mass, the competitions began to judge the natural physical attributes of the contestants as well as their physiques. These include Mr. World and Manhunt International."

May not be the best possible source, but it gives a VERY good idea what the general definition is.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on March 10, 2009, 11:52:47 PM
And about the pain.... The sacrifices that have to be made is far beyond the realm of the average Joe.

And nothing compared to a real athlete who trains up to 6 times A DAY! They also watch what they eat every minute, just like a bodybuilder does.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: gracie bjj on March 11, 2009, 12:41:16 AM
athlete=a person that is involved in a sport which requires strength,agility,stamina.bodybuilding requires a ton of drugs with good genetics and performing repetition exercises that benefit thier musculer appearence on stage,they are not judged on how much weight they lift.so (strength) is ruled out.(agility),im sure some have agility but most bodybuilders ive seen dont look very agile,(stamina),im not even gonna comment on that one,lol.im just keepin it real,i like bodybuilding as much as the next guy but i dont know how on earth bodybuilding got labeled as a sport.theres a reason why bodybuilding aint in the olympics,cause its not a sport is a fashion show except the guys are showing thier bodies instead of clothes
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: lovemonkey on March 11, 2009, 01:01:26 AM
athlete=a person that is involved in a sport which requires strength,agility,stamina.bodybuilding requires a ton of drugs with good genetics and performing repetition exercises that benefit thier musculer appearence on stage,they are not judged on how much weight they lift.so (strength) is ruled out.(agility),im sure some have agility but most bodybuilders ive seen dont look very agile,(stamina),im not even gonna comment on that one,lol.im just keepin it real,i like bodybuilding as much as the next guy but i dont know how on earth bodybuilding got labeled as a sport.theres a reason why bodybuilding aint in the olympics,cause its not a sport is a fashion show except the guys are showing thier bodies instead of clothes

I salute your contribution, sir.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: gib on March 11, 2009, 01:28:40 AM
Is BBing a sport? Its an interesting question.

For sure, many athletes bodybuild or weight-train as part of their training.

To me, most pure sports, can be objectively measured. Eg weightlifting, track and field, etc.

But you also have "sports" that are measured with subjective components. Eg, Diving, Gymnastics, Synchronised swimming, etc. To me, bodybuilding is more in that category of sport. There is no doubt BBing has rules, requires extreme physical training etc, so I would consider it a sport, although the extreme subjective component and the lack of measurable results do concern me.

I personally have problems accepting people who play golf to be athletes. A golf player would argue the point, but to me, guys that walk around hitting balls into little holes are not my idea of an athlete.

Do I consider Chick an athelte or sportsman. Yes.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: Lion666 on March 11, 2009, 01:51:44 AM
athlete=a person that is involved in a sport which requires strength,agility,stamina.bodybuilding requires a ton of drugs with good genetics and performing repetition exercises that benefit thier musculer appearence on stage,they are not judged on how much weight they lift.so (strength) is ruled out.(agility),im sure some have agility but most bodybuilders ive seen dont look very agile,(stamina),im not even gonna comment on that one,lol.im just keepin it real,i like bodybuilding as much as the next guy but i dont know how on earth bodybuilding got labeled as a sport.theres a reason why bodybuilding aint in the olympics,cause its not a sport is a fashion show except the guys are showing thier bodies instead of clothes

"strength,agility,stamina"
bb'n, training & all it entails, includ. posing...... it's a sport.....  and no one can bring up drug use because football / baseball etc....

anyone ever get on stage and hit & hold poses before knows thats it's hard to do..... bb'n is also entertainment and theatricaly based.... kinda like wrestling......   
to anyone who has ever competed knows bb'n is def a sport..... again get on stage and go through a routine where you have to hit & hold poses and then question the athletics of the sport.....
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: CoolDuck on March 11, 2009, 02:03:01 AM
Most bodybuilders are happy doing the same 9 or 12 sets per bodypart per week year after year, while athletes try to increase the volume and intensity of their workouts (their ability to do more work). There are no pro athlete who doesn't train multiple times per day, while most bodybuilders train max 1 time per day. These are the crucial differences in the training of the bodybuilders and athletes.

If bodybuilding is so easy, how come most people who train with weights look like shit? I'm fascinated with this obsession some getbiggers have with drugs. They reason that if a guy is lean and muscular, he must be using drugs. What one can read between the lines is that those who believe that to be true are the ones who are unable to train hard and diet systematically.

Thus, being unable to achieve any of their own physique goals, they figure that anybody who look better than them is a drug user. This is being unrespectful towards those who work hard and systematically over a long period of time. Many bodybuilders are true and impressive athletes. How many of us would be able to perform the leg-workouts of Tom Platz (high-rep, nausea inducing training). While it is true that the bodybuilding competitions are not directly based on athletic performance, the physique required to win is certainly based on being an athlete (and in pro competitions, just like in other pro sports- drugs).

CD
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: lovemonkey on March 11, 2009, 02:04:41 AM
"strength,agility,stamina"
bb'n, training & all it entails, includ. posing...... it's a sport.....  and no one can bring up drug use because football / baseball etc....

anyone ever get on stage and hit & hold poses before knows thats it's hard to do..... bb'n is also entertainment and theatricaly based.... kinda like wrestling......   
to anyone who has ever competed knows bb'n is def a sport..... again get on stage and go through a routine where you have to hit & hold poses and then question the athletics of the sport.....

Compare this to a simple beauty pageant and your theory falls flat. It's the same thing.
Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there
Post by: the anabolic mon on March 11, 2009, 05:11:20 AM
thats called being happy with Yourself.

Guess why are having the better life, all those flashy black rappers/bodybuilder or Brock.


....Brock.

Damn straight.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: Red Hook on March 11, 2009, 05:26:21 AM
you are guys are arguing over semantics, let me help you out

participating in bodybuilding or being a bodybuilder does not automatically qualify you as an athlete

ofcourse there are athletes that participate and are bodybuilders, chances are most of them have a football or other sport background. So whether they particpated in bodybuilder did not and does not add to their athletic title.


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Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: Earl1972 on March 11, 2009, 11:20:21 AM
Oh brother, do I have to rehash this a million times? There is no athletic skill involved in bodybuilding.


posing is a skill

use the dictionary's definition of the word 'sport'

not your definition

E
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: Earl1972 on March 11, 2009, 11:21:38 AM
If you want top play the old "definition" or "dictionary" card, then, Comp. bbing is a pageant, Earl.

actually that would make it a sport

E
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: lovemonkey on March 11, 2009, 11:22:47 AM
posing is a skill

use the dictionary's definition of the word 'sport'

not your definition

E

They pose in beauty pageants too, does that make them athletes?
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: Earl1972 on March 11, 2009, 11:26:48 AM
They pose in beauty pageants too, does that make them athletes?

i've been over this a million times, look up the thread "bodybuilding is not a sport" started by goatboy

but to answer this question standing up straight and smiling is not exertion like posing in a bodybuilding contest ::)

E
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: spinnis on March 11, 2009, 11:28:59 AM
Swede pulling of another thread that Exploded.


And chick proving he doesn't know up from down once again.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: lovemonkey on March 11, 2009, 11:30:31 AM
i've been over this a million times, look up the thread "bodybuilding is not a sport" started by goatboy

but to answer this question standing up straight and smiling is not exertion like posing in a bodybuilding contest ::)

E

You would have made it easier for yourself if you said that beauty pageant competitors are athletes as well. Now instead you have made it an issue of personal preference/definition.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: Earl1972 on March 11, 2009, 11:32:25 AM
You would have made it easier for yourself if you said that beauty pageant competitors are athletes as well. Now instead you have made it an issue of personal preference/definition.

show me the physical exertion in a beauy pageant

E
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: lovemonkey on March 11, 2009, 11:37:16 AM
show me the physical exertion in a beauy pageant

E

I'm sure there is some but it's irrelevant.

I draw the line at the fact that bodybuilding is about judging the appearance/presentation of the competitors and nothing else. I don't care how hard the competitors work in order to give a good showing, it is still a beauty pageant.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: Earl1972 on March 11, 2009, 11:39:25 AM
I'm sure there is some but it's irrelevant.

I draw the line at the fact that bodybuilding is about judging the appearance/presentation of the competitors and nothing else. I don't care how hard the competitors work in order to give a good showing, it is still a beauty pageant.

uh no it is not irrelevant, physical exertion is needed in a competiton for it to be considered a sport

and you use the words "i'm sure", which means you don't know :)

again use the dictionary definition, not your own definition

E
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: soylent green on March 11, 2009, 01:32:30 PM
When a mention BB and drugs i didn't meant disrespect anybody.
 But. you mention Mark Kerr. OK. one. bodybuilders all of then.

You actually think a large percentage of MMA fighters are not juicing or taking pain killers?
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: luvvsuNOT on March 11, 2009, 01:48:52 PM
athlete=a person that is involved in a sport which requires strength,agility,stamina.bodybuilding requires a ton of drugs with good genetics and performing repetition exercises that benefit thier musculer appearence on stage,they are not judged on how much weight they lift.so (strength) is ruled out.(agility),im sure some have agility but most bodybuilders ive seen dont look very agile,(stamina),im not even gonna comment on that one,lol.im just keepin it real,i like bodybuilding as much as the next guy but i dont know how on earth bodybuilding got labeled as a sport.theres a reason why bodybuilding aint in the olympics,cause its not a sport is a fashion show except the guys are showing thier bodies instead of clothes

And:

Why won't you listen to what our dear friend Wikipedia has to say:

"A beauty contest, or beauty pageant, is a competition based mainly, though not always entirely, on the physical beauty of its contestants, and often incorporating personality, talent demonstration, and question responses as judged criteria. Almost invariably, competitions for men and women are separate events, and those for men are not referred to as beauty contests. Beauty contests for women are more common, and winners are called beauty queens. Beauty contests for men, like Mr. Universe, are more likely to be "body building" contests—quite unlike the traditional "beauty contest" in which women are judged upon many attributes both physical and otherwise. However, in the 1990s, male "beauty contests" began to shift focus. Instead of only considering muscle mass, the competitions began to judge the natural physical attributes of the contestants as well as their physiques. These include Mr. World and Manhunt International."


OK, forget what I said before. Upon more reflection and arguments presented bodybuilding is a physique contest not an athletic event. I think I conflated the notion that since bodybuilders are strong and many are very athletic (Kai Green, grapefruit not withstanding) there is the tendency to think of them as athletes. Being athletic does not make you an athlete. Participation in a sport seems to be one of the requirements for being an athlete. Posing onstage does seem to have more in common with a beauty pagent than an athletic or sporting event.
Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on March 11, 2009, 03:26:42 PM
because 99.99% of black rappers flashes their money more then they sing.



I apologize, Swede. I forgot your from Sweden, NOT America. Sometimes ignorance IS bliss.
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: Shawdow on March 19, 2009, 10:44:39 PM
Well. better body? hmmmmmmm that is relative.
 He is bigger than me. but..
I can make him tap in less than 3 minutes. how about that?
 And you really believe that a gym rat take more than a pro.
 
  8)
 

by that you mean you can make him not ever want a grapefruit again in less than 3 minutes, because your rectum will do the job?
Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there
Post by: Spike on March 20, 2009, 06:08:18 AM
I've always been a athlete...that happened to become a BB....played sports all my life and excelled at every one of them. There are all types of athletes in the world...each has their particular challenges when training, practicing...

walk a mile in my shoes...

where did you play college sports at??

oh yea
Title: Re: Are bodybuilders athletes when you have MMA guys training like this?
Post by: DK II on March 20, 2009, 06:16:24 AM
http://www.fitnessanywhere.com/mma/index.php

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there
Post by: Chick on March 20, 2009, 06:17:17 AM
where did you play college sports at??

oh yea

Never played any sports in college....played HS football, baseball, track...was into BB after that, was an American Gladiator after that...bowl and Golf to this day
Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there
Post by: Devon97 on March 20, 2009, 06:27:39 AM
Never played any sports in college....played HS football, baseball, track...was into BB after that, was an American Gladiator after that...bowl and Golf to this day

Bob Chick,

Did you at least play intermurals in college?
Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there
Post by: io856 on March 20, 2009, 06:30:44 AM
I've always been a athlete...that happened to become a BB....played sports all my life and excelled at every one of them. There are all types of athletes in the world...each has their particular challenges when training, practicing...

walk a mile in my shoes...
For the most part successful bodybuilders don't have histories of athletic success. You are an anomaly along with Phil Heath and perhaps Levrone.

Does that detract from the pursuits of elite level bodybuilding?

In my opinion, not in the slightest. An elite javelin thrower wouldn't fair well on the rugby field.  Does that mean his/her achiements are redundant? Its a non-argument
Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there
Post by: Chick on March 20, 2009, 06:44:50 AM
Bob Chick,

Did you at least play intermurals in college?

I was actually contemplating bowling, and carried a 205 average throughout college.  I was in the midst of completing a Handicap via a "qualifying school" when I got the call for the Gladiators...
Title: Re: Amazing how bodybuilder has the Guts the call themself Athleletes when there
Post by: Devon97 on March 20, 2009, 07:43:13 AM
I was actually contemplating bowling, and carried a 205 average throughout college.  I was in the midst of completing a Handicap via a "qualifying school" when I got the call for the Gladiators...


Bob Chick,

What University did you attend before the Gladiators came a calling?