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Title: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: DeltsaForce on March 17, 2009, 09:47:41 PM
I have a reasonably handsome face and I've noticed that women smile at me a lot. In late night settings -- bars and shit -- I will often get quite suggestive looks that feel like "talk to me". However, what I am less sure of is the kind of little brief 'flash' smiles I might get on a train, in Starbucks, the gym etc.. very often a woman will do this when she's with a guy ... so obviously approaching is NOT on.

What I really want to know is that if/when you make eye contact with a guy maybe a few times and flash a little smile or something..say in a coffee shop..this is not an invitation to approach and make conversation. would it be too forward in a stiffer, daytime environment to actually make conversation.?

For example, at the gym an older lady (hot) caught me looking at her, held my glance, looked away...then looked back again and gave me a very slight smile. As she was leaving the gym I was on some equipment and she kind of smiled at me but didn't look directly into my eyes.

So what is the point where it's like I'm being too forward and a creepy guy and where it's an obvious come-on like when you're in a bar at 10pm on Friday night it's just blatant to approach ?
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: drkaje on March 18, 2009, 05:02:25 AM
Just confidently introduce yourself.

There really aren't any secrets. :)
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: Quickerblade on March 18, 2009, 05:19:35 AM
there is no trick or science to it, just go for it
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: DeltsaForce on March 18, 2009, 09:09:39 AM
Ladies ? Would be interested to hear your thoughts on this .
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: Original Sin on March 18, 2009, 10:17:14 AM
 :)

Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: Original Sin on March 18, 2009, 10:19:07 AM
Ladies ? Would be interested to hear your thoughts on this .

Sorry, Can't give advice.
I am no lady.

Seriously if you don't approach and find out you will never know what she is thinking...

You fail on every opportunity not taken...
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: Butterbean on March 18, 2009, 10:25:02 AM
Regarding the women that are not w/another man...just introduce yourself like drkaje said.  You could also ask her a question or compliment her on something.  If she seems creeped out, back off.   



Hi OS!
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: DeltsaForce on March 18, 2009, 11:16:15 AM
Regarding the women that are not w/another man...just introduce yourself like drkaje said.  You could also ask her a question or compliment her on something.  If she seems creeped out, back off.   



Hi OS!

Stella, thanks for the answer. I'm not  really worried  about what to say...my social skills are pretty good and the charm dispenser is always full.

I'm more interested in those  kinds of  occasions where it's in a more austere and functional setting. Like in a sandwich bar, or on a bus. Women, it seems to me, have a different array of smiles. Sometimes they are simply polite and friendly. At a bar or party I  think most women are pretty  good at letting you know if they want to talk. There seems to be a halfway point though, I kind of signal that says "Hey, I like you but don't  dream of invading my space" or "hey, if I wasn't with this doofus you'd have a chance". Like they want to flirt and feel "he was hot for me" but would be freaked out if you tried to make serious conversation.

That make any sense?
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: drkaje on March 18, 2009, 11:27:45 AM
There's an old saying: "God hates a coward".
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: Original Sin on March 18, 2009, 11:32:05 AM
Stella, thanks for the answer. I'm not  really worried  about what to say...my social skills are pretty good and the charm dispenser is always full.

I'm more interested in those  kinds of  occasions where it's in a more austere and functional setting. Like in a sandwich bar, or on a bus. Women, it seems to me, have a different array of smiles. Sometimes they are simply polite and friendly. At a bar or party I  think most women are pretty  good at letting you know if they want to talk. There seems to be a halfway point though, I kind of signal that says "Hey, I like you but don't  dream of invading my space" or "hey, if I wasn't with this doofus you'd have a chance". Like they want to flirt and feel "he was hot for me" but would be freaked out if you tried to make serious conversation.

That make any sense?

You're over analyzing this...
Stella's smile won't mean the same thing mine does. Nor does the same smile mean the same thing all the time for any of us.  There is no secret code to be deciphered.

The only way to know is to approach and say "hi".

Women are still individuals within the human race with our own thoughts and feelings.

Although we are the sweet smelling, wonderful, intelligent, better half of the human race,
but we will still talk to you.  Somebody has to sweep the stables.  ;D ;D


Hey Stella!  8)
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: DeltsaForce on March 18, 2009, 11:37:47 AM
You're over analyzing this...


I want to; I have an interest in human Psychology. If I wanted "just hit it" "nail the tail" etc type response I would post this on the G&O.

You say your smile is different to Stella's and means something different. This is exactly what I'm curious about. Say I am ordering a coffee and an egg mayo sandwich in a deli , you're ordering something too,  you look back at me twice and smile the second time. If I run after in the street and say "hi" you wouldn't find that too forward?
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: Original Sin on March 18, 2009, 11:45:16 AM
I want to; I have an interest in human Psychology. If I wanted "just hit it" "nail the tail" etc type response I would post this on the G&O.

You say your smile is different to Stella's and means something different. This is exactly what I'm curious about. Say I am ordering a coffee and an egg mayo sandwich , you look back at me twice and smile the second time. If I run after in the street and say "hi" you wouldn't find that too forward?

Nope, I wouldn't find that too forward at all.
Shows confidence to me.

Now depending on you, me and a million other influences at that time, so I can't amplify on the situation regarding your success at that time.
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: drkaje on March 18, 2009, 11:46:47 AM
I want to; I have an interest in human Psychology. If I wanted "just hit it" "nail the tail" etc type response I would post this on the G&O.

You say your smile is different to Stella's and means something different. This is exactly what I'm curious about. Say I am ordering a coffee and an egg mayo sandwich , you look back at me twice and smile the second time. If I run after in the street and say "hi" you wouldn't find that too forward?

But how will you know if it needs hitting without asking?

Chat them up, DF. A closed mouth doesn't get fed.

How are hotties like OS gonna clean stables without being given the opportunity?!

Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: michael arvilla on March 18, 2009, 11:47:08 AM
:)



                     WOW  ...................That Bush is overgrown!!!!!!
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: Original Sin on March 18, 2009, 11:52:39 AM
But how will you know if it needs hitting without asking?

Chat them up, DF. A closed mouth doesn't get fed.

How are hotties like OS gonna clean stables without being given the opportunity?!



LOL Nice...

Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: DeltsaForce on March 18, 2009, 11:53:23 AM
Nope, I wouldn't find that too forward at all.
Shows confidence to me.

Now depending on you, me and a million other influences at that time, so I can't amplify on the situation regarding your success at that time.

Seriously, great answer. This is exactly the sort of thing that interests me. I would hazard that more women than most would be slightly uncomfortable in that situation. As I think it gives women (men too, actually) very little space to feel desired and attractive without being hit on.

 
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on March 18, 2009, 11:54:51 AM
I want to; I have an interest in human Psychology. If I wanted "just hit it" "nail the tail" etc type response I would post this on the G&O.

You say your smile is different to Stella's and means something different. This is exactly what I'm curious about. Say I am ordering a coffee and an egg mayo sandwich in a deli , you're ordering something too,  you look back at me twice and smile the second time. If I run after in the street and say "hi" you wouldn't find that too forward?

God gave you a handsome face cause obviously you have ZERO game or confidence.  Maybe workout harder in the gym so your muscles will be bigger so you'll have more confidence :)  lol. 

You're putting the pussy on a pedestal. 
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on March 18, 2009, 11:58:46 AM
Oh and for other guys that are as clueless as DeltsaForce............. .WOMEN DON'T WANT YOU TO BE SUBTLE!  Why the fuck do you think they spend $200 on their hair, $50 dollars on their nails, all that time in the salon, putting on their make up, just so some guy will come up and tap her on her shoulder and whisper in her ear "can I take you out sometime"???????????  They want you to be unlike every other guy that has ever asked them out.  That's what confidence is all about.  Any guy that can walk up to a group of women in a bar and start flirting with one he finds attractive has a huge set of balls no amount of muscles can ever duplicate.  Knowing full well he will get 100% cock block from her friends and keep on going. 
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: Original Sin on March 18, 2009, 11:59:57 AM
Stella, thanks for the answer. I'm not  really worried  about what to say...my social skills are pretty good and the charm dispenser is always full.

I'm more interested in those  kinds of  occasions where it's in a more austere and functional setting. Like in a sandwich bar, or on a bus. Women, it seems to me, have a different array of smiles. Sometimes they are simply polite and friendly. At a bar or party I  think most women are pretty  good at letting you know if they want to talk. There seems to be a halfway point though, I kind of signal that says "Hey, I like you but don't  dream of invading my space" or "hey, if I wasn't with this doofus you'd have a chance". Like they want to flirt and feel "he was hot for me" but would be freaked out if you tried to make serious conversation.

That make any sense?

Bear in mind there a more then just a few women who like the drama and try and make men jealous to justify themselves.

DrKaje is so very correct in this thread (minus the stables) with his advice.

With the information in this thread if I had to choose one of you I would choose him.
He is showing enough confidence to pique my interest.  

"Analysts" appear wimpy and unappealing.  Good looking women get hit on all the time and we have to filter the "wimps" out.  I can only comment on myself, but if you are not confident enough to take a chance I am not interested in you.

No offense meant here, I am just trying to explain things... I apologize if this comes across a little harsh.
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on March 18, 2009, 12:05:46 PM
Bear in mind there a more then just a few women who like the drama and try and make men jealous to justify themselves.

DrKaje is so very correct in this thread (minus the stables) with his advice.

With the information in this thread if I had to choose one of you I would choose him.
He is showing enough confidence to pique my interest.  

"Analysts" appear wimpy and unappealing.  Good looking women get hit on all the time and we have to filter the "wimps" out.  I can only comment on myself, but if you are not confident enough to take a chance I am not interested in you.

No offense meant here, I am just trying to explain things... I apologize if this comes across a little harsh.

You're exactly right.......good looking women get "hit on" all the time.  But very rarely do they get approached by men they are actually interested in.  The hotter the chick the more guy craved she is in my opinion.  She's so used to all the losers hitting on her that it takes a really impressive, confident guy to wow her.  But that's why also the hotter the chick the more high maintenance she is for the most part.  You've got to constantly be hitting your PR with her throughout the relationship or she'll get bored and realize there are bigger and better out there.  See women love to complicate things and make themselves out to be these intriguing, sophisticated, complex people...........in reality they are very simple and easy to please once as a man you learn how to unlock them with the right key. 
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: Original Sin on March 18, 2009, 12:08:06 PM
Oh and for other guys that are as clueless as DeltsaForce............. .WOMEN DON'T WANT YOU TO BE SUBTLE!  Why the fuck do you think they spend $200 on their hair, $50 dollars on their nails, all that time in the salon, putting on their make up, just so some guy will come up and tap her on her shoulder and whisper in her ear "can I take you out sometime"???????????  They want you to be unlike every other guy that has ever asked them out.  That's what confidence is all about.  Any guy that can walk up to a group of women in a bar and start flirting with one he finds attractive has a huge set of balls no amount of muscles can ever duplicate.  Knowing full well he will get 100% cock block from her friends and keep on going. 

We have winner here!

100% successful - not a chance!

If you look at playing the "Game of Pursuit" as the fun part and "hooking up" as a by product you will have more success then you will know what to do with.  
                     WOW  ...................That Bush is overgrown!!!!!!

Buy the missus a better razor  ;)

Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: DeltsaForce on March 18, 2009, 12:09:04 PM
Bear in mind there a more then just a few women who like the drama and try and make men jealous to justify themselves.

DrKaje is so very correct in this thread (minus the stables) with his advice.

With the information in this thread if I had to choose one of you I would choose him.
He is showing enough confidence to pique my interest. 

"Analysts" appear wimpy and unappealing.  Good looking women get hit on all the time and we have to filter the "wimps" out.  I can only comment on myself, but if you are not confident enough to take a chance I am not interested in you.

No offense meant here, I am just trying to explain things... I apologize if this comes across a little harsh.



Not at all. I'd much rather read the unfettered thoughts of a woman than anything posted from a cyber-geek.

I think I have not been clear on few things --- and let us not forget the amount of bravado that is used on internet -- a lot of the male contributions here are typical of any forum full of guys living out a fantasy version of themselves. I am not  doing so

I am well-educated, reasonably solvent and have very good looks. I have never been short of women who are interested in me and make that clear (you'll have to take a leap of faith here and trust me that this is the truth and not internet gusto :D )

I have no problem understanding a women in a certain environment that young singles meet... making it clear she wants to be approached - bars, parties, clubs etc...

I also notice that throughout my day I will have maybe five or six lesser interactions - smiles, prolonged eye contact etc - with women in situations where interaction is at best difficult and at times impossible. My only  real interest here is what the women of this board make of these situations and what they feel they are trying to communicate to a male in these said situations if they also have them. I  am honestly  only interested in a woman's perspective.
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: Original Sin on March 18, 2009, 12:16:17 PM
Ahhh,

I misunderstood, but I am blonde for a reason.

Most often or not what you are describing in the coffee shop or the like is a polite smile.

But...
You never know.

I got stopped once in the middle of a street and asked for my number. 
That was waaay too forward, but I did have a coffee with him to try and "figure him out".
He sucked! lol
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: drkaje on March 18, 2009, 12:18:02 PM
LOL Nice...



That's me. :)
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: DeltsaForce on March 18, 2009, 12:23:21 PM
Ahhh,

I misunderstood, but I am blonde for a reason.

Most often or not what you are describing in the coffee shop or the like is a polite smile.

But...
You never know.

I got stopped once in the middle of a street and asked for my number. 
That was waaay too forward, but I did have a coffee with him to try and "figure him out".
He sucked! lol

 Yes, I think most often it is a polite smile. Sometimes it's kinda a little more. The vibe is a bit more..."oh, you like me...well you're quite cute so I don't mind it" but still not an open invitation to saunter over and start talking over cappuccinos.

Hey, the guy who accosted you on the street got the coffee opportunity...His forwardness got his foot in door, tough for him that he couldn't get it open :)
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: Original Sin on March 18, 2009, 12:28:51 PM
Yes, I think most often it is a polite smile. Sometimes it's kinda a little more. The vibe is a bit more..."oh, you like me...well you're quite cute so I don't mind it" but still not an open invitation to saunter over and start talking over cappuccinos.

Hey, the guy who accosted you on the street got the coffee opportunity...His forwardness got his foot in door, tough for him that he couldn't get it open :)

You're sort of contradicting your point here a little.

His forwardness did give him an opportunity... So why wouldn't you take the "vibe" as an invitation?
A smile might be all you will get.
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on March 18, 2009, 12:30:31 PM
We have winner here!

100% successful - not a chance!

If you look at playing the "Game of Pursuit" as the fun part and "hooking up" as a by product you will have more success then you will know what to do with.  
Buy the missus a better razor  ;)



Yes and by the time you get done playing the "game of pursuit" as you so well put it............the excitement of hooking up almost fades as fast as it came.  Most guys go straight for the hooking up and bypass the whole game altogether.

Delta us so called "cybergeeks" aren't the one on a bodybuilding website seeking out help in order to understand the psyche of 21st century single women.   ::)  I'm 29 and my days of playing the game are over.  I'm getting married in June.  I will say some of the most exciting and fun women I've ever dated were late 20's to early 30's (when I was in my early 20's).  I even dated a few 38 year olds.  Young guys have no idea what they are missing out on when they go for all these frivolous young bimbos. 

Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: DeltsaForce on March 18, 2009, 12:34:57 PM
You're sort of contradicting your point here a little.

His forwardness did give him an opportunity... So why wouldn't you take the "vibe" as an invitation?
A smile might be all you will get.

Maybe, good point, but I thought you kinda contradicted yourself when you said it would be fine for the sandwich bar guy to run after you in the street and introduce himself but "can I get your  number guy" was way too forward .. although, you still give him the "coffee shot".

I think the biggest problem is that people assume I'm asking for tips on picking up girls -- that I don't need -- when I'm more interested in hearing about the private thoughts and social signals of women.
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on March 18, 2009, 12:36:33 PM
Yes, I think most often it is a polite smile. Sometimes it's kinda a little more. The vibe is a bit more..."oh, you like me...well you're quite cute so I don't mind it" but still not an open invitation to saunter over and start talking over cappuccinos.

Hey, the guy who accosted you on the street got the coffee opportunity...His forwardness got his foot in door, tough for him that he couldn't get it open :)

You're really over analyzing everything.  The entire point is women aren't going to give you an open invitation to ask them out.  All a smile means is ok...let's see what you got big guy.  That's where flirting, teasing in a charming way, flattery, come into play and most of all conversation and interest.  If you have to think so hard about talking to women you've already lost the battle.  Good looks or not.  
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on March 18, 2009, 12:40:46 PM
Maybe, good point, but I thought you kinda contradicted yourself when you said it would be fine for the sandwich bar guy to run after you in the street and introduce himself but "can I get your  number guy" was way too forward .. although, you still give him the "coffee shot".

I think the biggest problem is that people assume I'm asking for tips on picking up girls -- that I don't need -- when I'm more interested in hearing about the private thoughts and social signals of women.

You're making out the private thoughts and social signals of women to be much more complex than they are.  Women's signals can change in an instant.....like everything else in their life........clothes, shoes, hair, etc.  LOL.  Women nowadays are extremely picky. 
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: Original Sin on March 18, 2009, 12:44:45 PM
We're not picky...
It is just the quality control in the gene pool has dropped severely
 ;D ;D

(just kidding, no hate mail)


Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on March 18, 2009, 12:54:06 PM
We're not picky...
It is just the quality control in the gene pool has dropped severely
 ;D ;D

(just kidding, no hate mail)




I've met my fair share of crazy/loser women in person and doing the online dating thing.  But as far as online dating goes there are WAY more decent women to choose from than men in my opinion.  I actually feel sorry for some of the women on those sites because some are really great catches and are looking for a genuine relationship. 
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: Butterbean on March 18, 2009, 02:43:50 PM
If I run after in the street and say "hi" you wouldn't find that too forward?

I had a guy do that to me long ago when I was single and I gave him my number.  I never went out w/him but I remember his name to this day.


Deltsa, I think that OS said it already but these diff. smiles from diff. women can mean so many diff. things.  Maybe the gal in front of you in line for coffee that gave you a couple of coy smiles thinks you're cute and wants you to talk to her. ......or maybe she accidentally let one fly and was embarrassed that you may have heard/smelled it.

So many different possibilities! 

Maybe give us all the details on your next smile encounter and we can analyze it more thoroughly....like was her chin tilted down and was she batting her eyelashes at you etc.
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: DeltsaForce on March 18, 2009, 02:54:54 PM
I had a guy do that to me long ago when I was single and I gave him my number.  I never went out w/him but I remember his name to this day.


Deltsa, I think that OS said it already but these diff. smiles from diff. women can mean so many diff. things.  Maybe the gal in front of you in line for coffee that gave you a couple of coy smiles thinks you're cute and wants you to talk to her. ......or maybe she accidentally let one fly and was embarrassed that you may have heard/smelled it.

So many different possibilities! 

Maybe give us all the details on your next smile encounter and we can analyze it more thoroughly....like was her chin tilted down and was she batting her eyelashes at you etc.

I think I'm very good at reading signals. What I didn't want to do is appear arrogant (or just a cyber liar) but in truth most people would say I'm handsome. Hence I am aware that people in general do look at me quite a lot. I can tell when it's clearly not cool to approach and when it's very much the right time. I wasn't really asking about picking up girls --  I'll leave that to the guy who uses online dating sites to amass his portfolio of knowledge ;)

I am just interested because I have often thought that many times women want to be admired , want to know they are desired and enjoy the attentions of a good looking guy without anything more. In fact, anything more would be unwanted. I know this is true of me: there are times when I'm very grateful to be getting admiring glances from females but I don't want them to start talking to me and getting on my nerves.

Surely this is the same for you girls. Let's not be coy. You know if men are checking you out and often will smile back...would you do so if every time this little exchange happened he immediately leapt over to you?
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: DeltsaForce on March 18, 2009, 03:04:39 PM
btw... i loved this :

Maybe the gal in front of you in line for coffee that gave you a couple of coy smiles thinks you're cute and wants you to talk to her. ......or maybe she accidentally let one fly and was embarrassed that you may have heard/smelled it.


excellent and very, very true. nothing makes a woman blush like an unwelcome fart ;D
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: michael arvilla on March 18, 2009, 08:40:27 PM
Jesus Christ!!!!................you guys are over-analyzing this!

  you see a girl you really like and she smiles at you..................hav e sum balls!/take a chance and go up to her and start a freaking conversation

you will know if the first 10 seconds if she is interested or not


lol............Women aren't Rocket Science
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: DeltsaForce on March 18, 2009, 09:19:48 PM
 That's not even what I'm asking. I am not asking men if I should approach girls. I am  asking women about the kind of psychological motivations that affect and govern their behavior.


It's not "over analyzing", it's thinking.

It's not a "how to get girls" thread. Which, trust me, I don't need any help with -- and if I did it would not be on web forums that I sought it.
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: Playboy on March 19, 2009, 05:02:36 AM
Just confidently introduce yourself.

There really aren't any secrets. :)
Exactly. You have nothing to loose and everything to gain. Losts of good looking women in the world.
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: Butterbean on March 19, 2009, 06:18:44 AM


I am just interested because I have often thought that many times women want to be admired , want to know they are desired and enjoy the attentions of a good looking guy without anything more. In fact, anything more would be unwanted. I know this is true of me: there are times when I'm very grateful to be getting admiring glances from females but I don't want them to start talking to me and getting on my nerves.

I think you're right.  Even if a woman is "taken," if she feels her partner doesn't appreciate or find her attractive, she may get that need somewhat filled when other males shoot her admiring glances.

Personally, any smiles I give to men have zero flirtation in them (I am happily married)...they are just friendly smiles like I would give to an 80 year old man or a female.



Surely this is the same for you girls. Let's not be coy. You know if men are checking you out and often will smile back...would you do so if every time this little exchange happened he immediately leapt over to you?
 
Def. not!





excellent and very, very true. nothing makes a woman blush like an unwelcome fart ;D

"Unwelcome" being the operative word ;D

Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: Migs on March 19, 2009, 10:16:03 AM
women make me  >:(
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: Lord Humungous on March 19, 2009, 04:39:01 PM
I have a reasonably handsome face and I've noticed that women smile at me a lot. In late night settings -- bars and shit -- I will often get quite suggestive looks that feel like "talk to me". However, what I am less sure of is the kind of little brief 'flash' smiles I might get on a train, in Starbucks, the gym etc.. very often a woman will do this when she's with a guy ... so obviously approaching is NOT on.

What I really want to know is that if/when you make eye contact with a guy maybe a few times and flash a little smile or something..say in a coffee shop..this is not an invitation to approach and make conversation. would it be too forward in a stiffer, daytime environment to actually make conversation.?

For example, at the gym an older lady (hot) caught me looking at her, held my glance, looked away...then looked back again and gave me a very slight smile. As she was leaving the gym I was on some equipment and she kind of smiled at me but didn't look directly into my eyes.

So what is the point where it's like I'm being too forward and a creepy guy and where it's an obvious come-on like when you're in a bar at 10pm on Friday night it's just blatant to approach ?

Dont worry about what these women think!!!
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: DeltsaForce on March 19, 2009, 05:19:28 PM
I think you're right.  Even if a woman is "taken," if she feels her partner doesn't appreciate or find her attractive, she may get that need somewhat filled when other males shoot her admiring glances.





 Great point. I think guys will do the same thing with their girl too. It can be done simply to make a partner jealous, fulfil the need to feel attractive, and also to show your loved one that you're getting checked out and a bit of "catch" ;D

Of course for a woman it's a time she can be a bit flirtatious and know that she won't get hit on if her guy is with her.
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: Parker on March 19, 2009, 05:35:12 PM
You're really over analyzing everything.  The entire point is women aren't going to give you an open invitation to ask them out.  All a smile means is ok...let's see what you got big guy.  That's where flirting, teasing in a charming way, flattery, come into play and most of all conversation and interest.  If you have to think so hard about talking to women you've already lost the battle.  Good looks or not.  

Exactly, there was this co-worker, that she and and I were heavily flirting, but i never said anything to her (too complicated), but now we don't speak, no longer friends. She was my Moby Dick.

When you have a chance to say something, do it, because you may never have another shot.
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: littlechris on March 22, 2009, 09:34:13 PM
i think delta may be overanalyzing, the subtle glances and smiles of women.  lots of women politely smile, and show eye contact but that doesnt mean they are interested or are waiting for you to pick up on them.  they are simply being polite, no mystery to it.
   now if you are speaking of women that you see on a regular basis say at the gym, at the office complex, etc, then yes, i think a conversation can be made, and one can introduce themselves, and slowly meet and potentialy date the woman.  but if its a one time situation where you see a girl (stranger) in public, that is different.  i find if a woman does not know me, and i try to get to know her, that she will rightly keep her guard up and my chances will be low of getting to meet her.
  Remember, women are very leary of strangers who approach them in public, and i dont blame them.  Now if you are going to approach a stranger, then a line that works well is "You look so familiar, do you go to xyz university, ".  shell say no, probably, but it is an ice breaker, and if the conversation goes somewhere, then cool.
  Another thing, if you do approach women on the street, then it is always good to act like you are somewhat nervous or that u feel a little awkward doing it.  women do not like players and if you are a player, you will not have a chance.  Nervousness, shyness and being a little flustered when you approach a woman, shows that you are genuine and that you are not a player.  i dont agree with one having to be super confident in order to get women.  guys that are super confident are the players/jerks 99% of the time.
   The more you approach women, the better you get, and YES it does take big balls to do it, but the results are worth it.  Besides whats the worse that happens, shell outright reject you, but youll survive.

-LC

p.s. without saying,  ALWAYS, look and see if shes wearing a ring before you approach her.
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: drkaje on March 23, 2009, 05:25:58 AM
p.s. without saying,  ALWAYS, look and see if shes wearing a ring before you approach her.

Not true. They put out sooner, and go home when you're done.
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: QuakerOats on March 23, 2009, 12:52:00 PM
Jesus Christ!!!!................you guys are over-analyzing this!

  you see a girl you really like and she smiles at you..................hav e sum balls!/take a chance and go up to her and start a freaking conversation

you will know if the first 10 seconds if she is interested or not


lol............Women aren't Rocket Science
bingo.
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: Original Sin on March 23, 2009, 05:05:06 PM
bingo.

No "Bingo"  Mikey can never be right.

Laura rule number; 47, sub section b, appendix 22.

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: Migs on March 23, 2009, 06:39:52 PM
sometimes it's the most blatent signals that get lost in translation
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: DeltsaForce on March 24, 2009, 05:47:14 PM
So far only maybe three people seem to ever read the actual original post. It was not asking about how to approach girls. It was asking women about their feeling on being approached in certain unorthodox situations. Obviously we meet each other mostly through friends, work, or in certain accepted environments like parties and bars. Not really interested in that side of it.

I don't know about other guy here but I do find myself getting suggestive and admiring glances on a daily basis from both sexes. I would not have the time to talk to all these ladies. I am just interest if these ladies do it just to flirtatious or if they actually want to be picked up on a bus?

Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: Butterbean on March 25, 2009, 06:26:13 AM
I am just interest if these ladies do it just to flirtatious or if they actually want to be picked up on a bus?


Both are possible.  But it's also possible that certain smiles can be misinterpreted. 
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: drkaje on March 25, 2009, 07:35:17 AM
Both are possible.  But it's also possible that certain smiles can be misinterpreted. 

Babies smile when they pass gas.

Some adults do too!!
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: Original Sin on March 25, 2009, 07:41:27 AM
So far only maybe three people seem to ever read the actual original post. It was not asking about how to approach girls. It was asking women about their feeling on being approached in certain unorthodox situations. Obviously we meet each other mostly through friends, work, or in certain accepted environments like parties and bars. Not really interested in that side of it.

I don't know about other guy here but I do find myself getting suggestive and admiring glances on a daily basis from both sexes. I would not have the time to talk to all these ladies. I am just interest if these ladies do it just to flirtatious or if they actually want to be picked up on a bus?



By reading this line I believe misinterpretation is the root of your problem.
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: drkaje on March 25, 2009, 08:00:59 AM
By reading this line I believe misinterpretation is the root of your problem.

A case of extreme self love?
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: Butterbean on March 25, 2009, 10:41:43 AM
Babies smile when they pass gas.

Some adults do too!!

Troo, troo ;D
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: DeltsaForce on March 25, 2009, 06:05:52 PM
A case of extreme self love?

Not at all my brother. I am very humble about my good looks and if look I never mentioned at first. It just explain maybe why I find myself admired maybe more than others.

Now people will think I'm either conceited or just internet liar so I wanted to avoid this scenario and hence was totally modest.

Fact is women give me lustful , playful and sexy smiles from the back of cabs and all kinds of shit. Was just interested to discover what they truly want. My feeling is that just want to admire a handsome and in shape man.

Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: Cap on March 25, 2009, 08:27:11 PM
I often wonder if nice, seemingly interested smiles I get are genuine.  It seems like women are conditioned to be nice smiling "creatures" and to deviate from that makes them "bitches".  As a result I hardly ever know when to distinguish between someone being nice and actually being interested.  This is why I like women who are a bit more forward (not slutty).  I met two like this at the gym today and we just had a friendly conversation, nothing to brag about but I certainly know I could talk with them again not worry that I got signals crossed.
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: drkaje on March 25, 2009, 08:30:15 PM
Not at all my brother. I am very humble about my good looks and if look I never mentioned at first. It just explain maybe why I find myself admired maybe more than others.

Now people will think I'm either conceited or just internet liar so I wanted to avoid this scenario and hence was totally modest.

Fact is women give me lustful , playful and sexy smiles from the back of cabs and all kinds of shit. Was just interested to discover what they truly want. My feeling is that just want to admire a handsome and in shape man.



Then hit them all for the Lord will know his own. :)
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: Original Sin on March 25, 2009, 08:37:50 PM
Not at all my brother. I am very humble about my good looks and if look I never mentioned at first. It just explain maybe why I find myself admired maybe more than others.

Now people will think I'm either conceited or just internet liar so I wanted to avoid this scenario and hence was totally modest.

Fact is women give me lustful , playful and sexy smiles from the back of cabs and all kinds of shit. Was just interested to discover what they truly want. My feeling is that just want to admire a handsome and in shape man.



WOW
just WOW!
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: DeltsaForce on March 25, 2009, 08:40:02 PM
WOW
just WOW!

Yes, this is the kind of response I elicit.
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: Migs on March 25, 2009, 08:46:01 PM
Yes, this is the kind of response I elicit.

i would think restraining order, but ok, it's your world.
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: Original Sin on March 25, 2009, 08:48:00 PM
Yes, this is the kind of response I elicit.

STella may "spank" me over this and I would deserve it. But then again STella is "Evil"

People pay me money and a lot of it to touch me and I don't even come close to this ego

I think therapy is in your future
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: DeltsaForce on March 25, 2009, 08:51:05 PM
i would think restraining order, but ok, it's your world.

 Like I said, I was incredibly modest precisely because I knew it end up like this. The fact is, I am not going to pretend I'm ugly or average looking to make people feel better and it is very relevant to the question I asked.

I don't have any kind of EGO -- OS -- none at all.. I don't even think I'm that good looking, just the most other people seem to. I've also never paid to touch a woman...never would.

But this isn't about me; it's about the ladies..
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: Migs on March 25, 2009, 08:51:32 PM
STella may "spank" me over this and I would deserve it. But then again STella is "Evil"

People pay me money and a lot of it to touch me and I don't even come close to this ego

I think therapy is in your future

I'd see this show.  What?  I can say this, i claim immunity
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: drkaje on March 25, 2009, 09:02:49 PM
STella may "spank" me over this and I would deserve it. But then again STella is "Evil"

People pay me money and a lot of it to touch me and I don't even come close to this ego

I think therapy is in your future

No pics?!
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: DeltsaForce on March 25, 2009, 09:06:23 PM
I often wonder if nice, seemingly interested smiles I get are genuine.  It seems like women are conditioned to be nice smiling "creatures" and to deviate from that makes them "bitches".  As a result I hardly ever know when to distinguish between someone being nice and actually being interested.  This is why I like women who are a bit more forward (not slutty).  I met two like this at the gym today and we just had a friendly conversation, nothing to brag about but I certainly know I could talk with them again not worry that I got signals crossed.

Btw, I thought this was a good post. Thoughtful and honest.
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: Original Sin on March 25, 2009, 09:13:24 PM
If you claim to study psychology or show an interest in it you would know by now that the "random" smiles you see on the bus or where ever are nothing more then nervousness and the basic trait of disarming a potentially harmful situation.  That is the core of a polite smile.  They are most likely not smiling at you at all but it is an automatic response to help difuse a situation where they don't have control.  Humans do it subconsciously.

Your thinking that the smiles all mean interest is just not normal and honestly I find it a little scary.



I will comment no more on this as this is a positive board and I see no positive side to your analysis.
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: Original Sin on March 25, 2009, 09:18:22 PM
No pics?!

You would have to talk to the boss.
I wold be in "no position" to hold the camera
 ;D
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: DeltsaForce on March 25, 2009, 09:25:17 PM
If you claim to study psychology or show an interest in it you would know by now that the "random" smiles you see on the bus or where ever are nothing more then nervousness and the basic trait of disarming a potentially harmful situation.  That is the core of a polite smile.  They are most likely not smiling at you at all but it is an automatic response to help difuse a situation where they don't have control.  Humans do it subconsciously.

Your thinking that the smiles all mean interest is just not normal and honestly I find it a little scary.



I have never, ever said that. Your saying that now ( after seemingly being capable of meaningful discourse earlier) leads me to conclude that you either have not read or failed to understand virtually anything I , or others, have said.

Again, how would you know if every smile is simply a polite or nervous smile? In fact, you yourself said you had coffee with a perfect stranger who accosted you on the street and wanted to give it time to decide if you were attracted to him.

In fact, the whole point is that whilst many of these are clearly mundane, and everyday smiles  - some completely fake and probably sarcastic even- some, a small percentage , are often more - and these are ones being discussed and explored in a supposedly positive and adult environment. Indeed, if it were not so then people would not meet and have relationships. People are people-watchers and look, smile, frown for a multitude of reasons... if you have not given or been given admiring or suggestive glances in everyday life then I am truly sorry.
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: drkaje on March 25, 2009, 09:26:07 PM
You would have to talk to the boss.
I wold be in "no position" to hold the camera
 ;D

I didn't mean naked pics, LOL!

Jeez!!
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: DeltsaForce on March 25, 2009, 09:32:34 PM


People pay me money and a lot of it to touch me and I don't even come close to this ego



Out of interest, why would this give you a big ego? I would think  - from a psychological perspective - that this kind of behaviour could produce quite the opposite and feelings of lower self-esteem.

That's not meant nastily or anything; I'm just interested why a woman would feel egotistical about men touching them for money..
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: Cap on March 25, 2009, 10:32:34 PM
If you claim to study psychology or show an interest in it you would know by now that the "random" smiles you see on the bus or where ever are nothing more then nervousness and the basic trait of disarming a potentially harmful situation.  That is the core of a polite smile.  They are most likely not smiling at you at all but it is an automatic response to help difuse a situation where they don't have control.  Humans do it subconsciously.

Your thinking that the smiles all mean interest is just not normal and honestly I find it a little scary.



I will comment no more on this as this is a positive board and I see no positive side to your analysis.

Your point is valid.  I think for me it is hard to understand because I'm usually going about my business and only give a head nod, if anything, and rarely smile unless smiled to first.  I guess that is the problem for me.  I can't fake emotion so I guess I find hard to understand others doing the same, and it confuses me.  I like things simple in a world that is anything but; go figure.   ;D
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: 24KT on March 25, 2009, 10:59:38 PM
I often wonder if nice, seemingly interested smiles I get are genuine.  It seems like women are conditioned to be nice smiling "creatures" and to deviate from that makes them "bitches".  As a result I hardly ever know when to distinguish between someone being nice and actually being interested.  This is why I like women who are a bit more forward (not slutty).  I met two like this at the gym today and we just had a friendly conversation, nothing to brag about but I certainly know I could talk with them again not worry that I got signals crossed.

Very insightful!
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: 24KT on March 25, 2009, 11:00:31 PM
Not at all my brother. I am very humble about my good looks and if look I never mentioned at first. It just explain maybe why I find myself admired maybe more than others.

Now people will think I'm either conceited or just internet liar so I wanted to avoid this scenario and hence was totally modest.

Fact is women give me lustful , playful and sexy smiles from the back of cabs and all kinds of shit. Was just interested to discover what they truly want. My feeling is that just want to admire a handsome and in shape man.


Methinks we need a pic to determine if you are in any way grounded in reality.  :)  Go ahead, ...post it.
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: Migs on March 26, 2009, 12:31:28 PM
Methinks we need a pic to determine if you are in any way grounded in reality.  :)  Go ahead, ...post it.

you and your pics, tsk tsk
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: 24KT on March 26, 2009, 03:23:09 PM
you and your pics, tsk tsk

I can't help it, ...I'm a very visual person.  :)
Title: Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
Post by: Migs on March 26, 2009, 03:34:26 PM
I'm giving you the evil eye