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Serious question for women - signal sending
« on: March 17, 2009, 09:47:41 PM »
I have a reasonably handsome face and I've noticed that women smile at me a lot. In late night settings -- bars and shit -- I will often get quite suggestive looks that feel like "talk to me". However, what I am less sure of is the kind of little brief 'flash' smiles I might get on a train, in Starbucks, the gym etc.. very often a woman will do this when she's with a guy ... so obviously approaching is NOT on.

What I really want to know is that if/when you make eye contact with a guy maybe a few times and flash a little smile or something..say in a coffee shop..this is not an invitation to approach and make conversation. would it be too forward in a stiffer, daytime environment to actually make conversation.?

For example, at the gym an older lady (hot) caught me looking at her, held my glance, looked away...then looked back again and gave me a very slight smile. As she was leaving the gym I was on some equipment and she kind of smiled at me but didn't look directly into my eyes.

So what is the point where it's like I'm being too forward and a creepy guy and where it's an obvious come-on like when you're in a bar at 10pm on Friday night it's just blatant to approach ?

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Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2009, 05:02:25 AM »
Just confidently introduce yourself.

There really aren't any secrets. :)

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Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2009, 05:19:35 AM »
there is no trick or science to it, just go for it

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Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2009, 09:09:39 AM »
Ladies ? Would be interested to hear your thoughts on this .

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Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2009, 10:17:14 AM »
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« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2009, 10:19:07 AM »
Ladies ? Would be interested to hear your thoughts on this .

Sorry, Can't give advice.
I am no lady.

Seriously if you don't approach and find out you will never know what she is thinking...

You fail on every opportunity not taken...
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Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2009, 10:25:02 AM »
Regarding the women that are not w/another man...just introduce yourself like drkaje said.  You could also ask her a question or compliment her on something.  If she seems creeped out, back off.   



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Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2009, 11:16:15 AM »
Regarding the women that are not w/another man...just introduce yourself like drkaje said.  You could also ask her a question or compliment her on something.  If she seems creeped out, back off.   



Hi OS!

Stella, thanks for the answer. I'm not  really worried  about what to say...my social skills are pretty good and the charm dispenser is always full.

I'm more interested in those  kinds of  occasions where it's in a more austere and functional setting. Like in a sandwich bar, or on a bus. Women, it seems to me, have a different array of smiles. Sometimes they are simply polite and friendly. At a bar or party I  think most women are pretty  good at letting you know if they want to talk. There seems to be a halfway point though, I kind of signal that says "Hey, I like you but don't  dream of invading my space" or "hey, if I wasn't with this doofus you'd have a chance". Like they want to flirt and feel "he was hot for me" but would be freaked out if you tried to make serious conversation.

That make any sense?

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Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2009, 11:27:45 AM »
There's an old saying: "God hates a coward".

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Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2009, 11:32:05 AM »
Stella, thanks for the answer. I'm not  really worried  about what to say...my social skills are pretty good and the charm dispenser is always full.

I'm more interested in those  kinds of  occasions where it's in a more austere and functional setting. Like in a sandwich bar, or on a bus. Women, it seems to me, have a different array of smiles. Sometimes they are simply polite and friendly. At a bar or party I  think most women are pretty  good at letting you know if they want to talk. There seems to be a halfway point though, I kind of signal that says "Hey, I like you but don't  dream of invading my space" or "hey, if I wasn't with this doofus you'd have a chance". Like they want to flirt and feel "he was hot for me" but would be freaked out if you tried to make serious conversation.

That make any sense?

You're over analyzing this...
Stella's smile won't mean the same thing mine does. Nor does the same smile mean the same thing all the time for any of us.  There is no secret code to be deciphered.

The only way to know is to approach and say "hi".

Women are still individuals within the human race with our own thoughts and feelings.

Although we are the sweet smelling, wonderful, intelligent, better half of the human race,
but we will still talk to you.  Somebody has to sweep the stables.  ;D ;D


Hey Stella!  8)
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Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2009, 11:37:47 AM »
You're over analyzing this...


I want to; I have an interest in human Psychology. If I wanted "just hit it" "nail the tail" etc type response I would post this on the G&O.

You say your smile is different to Stella's and means something different. This is exactly what I'm curious about. Say I am ordering a coffee and an egg mayo sandwich in a deli , you're ordering something too,  you look back at me twice and smile the second time. If I run after in the street and say "hi" you wouldn't find that too forward?

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« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2009, 11:45:16 AM »
I want to; I have an interest in human Psychology. If I wanted "just hit it" "nail the tail" etc type response I would post this on the G&O.

You say your smile is different to Stella's and means something different. This is exactly what I'm curious about. Say I am ordering a coffee and an egg mayo sandwich , you look back at me twice and smile the second time. If I run after in the street and say "hi" you wouldn't find that too forward?

Nope, I wouldn't find that too forward at all.
Shows confidence to me.

Now depending on you, me and a million other influences at that time, so I can't amplify on the situation regarding your success at that time.
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Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2009, 11:46:47 AM »
I want to; I have an interest in human Psychology. If I wanted "just hit it" "nail the tail" etc type response I would post this on the G&O.

You say your smile is different to Stella's and means something different. This is exactly what I'm curious about. Say I am ordering a coffee and an egg mayo sandwich , you look back at me twice and smile the second time. If I run after in the street and say "hi" you wouldn't find that too forward?

But how will you know if it needs hitting without asking?

Chat them up, DF. A closed mouth doesn't get fed.

How are hotties like OS gonna clean stables without being given the opportunity?!


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Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2009, 11:47:08 AM »
:)



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Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2009, 11:52:39 AM »
But how will you know if it needs hitting without asking?

Chat them up, DF. A closed mouth doesn't get fed.

How are hotties like OS gonna clean stables without being given the opportunity?!



LOL Nice...

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Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2009, 11:53:23 AM »
Nope, I wouldn't find that too forward at all.
Shows confidence to me.

Now depending on you, me and a million other influences at that time, so I can't amplify on the situation regarding your success at that time.

Seriously, great answer. This is exactly the sort of thing that interests me. I would hazard that more women than most would be slightly uncomfortable in that situation. As I think it gives women (men too, actually) very little space to feel desired and attractive without being hit on.

 

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Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2009, 11:54:51 AM »
I want to; I have an interest in human Psychology. If I wanted "just hit it" "nail the tail" etc type response I would post this on the G&O.

You say your smile is different to Stella's and means something different. This is exactly what I'm curious about. Say I am ordering a coffee and an egg mayo sandwich in a deli , you're ordering something too,  you look back at me twice and smile the second time. If I run after in the street and say "hi" you wouldn't find that too forward?

God gave you a handsome face cause obviously you have ZERO game or confidence.  Maybe workout harder in the gym so your muscles will be bigger so you'll have more confidence :)  lol. 

You're putting the pussy on a pedestal. 

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Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2009, 11:58:46 AM »
Oh and for other guys that are as clueless as DeltsaForce............. .WOMEN DON'T WANT YOU TO BE SUBTLE!  Why the fuck do you think they spend $200 on their hair, $50 dollars on their nails, all that time in the salon, putting on their make up, just so some guy will come up and tap her on her shoulder and whisper in her ear "can I take you out sometime"???????????  They want you to be unlike every other guy that has ever asked them out.  That's what confidence is all about.  Any guy that can walk up to a group of women in a bar and start flirting with one he finds attractive has a huge set of balls no amount of muscles can ever duplicate.  Knowing full well he will get 100% cock block from her friends and keep on going. 

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Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2009, 11:59:57 AM »
Stella, thanks for the answer. I'm not  really worried  about what to say...my social skills are pretty good and the charm dispenser is always full.

I'm more interested in those  kinds of  occasions where it's in a more austere and functional setting. Like in a sandwich bar, or on a bus. Women, it seems to me, have a different array of smiles. Sometimes they are simply polite and friendly. At a bar or party I  think most women are pretty  good at letting you know if they want to talk. There seems to be a halfway point though, I kind of signal that says "Hey, I like you but don't  dream of invading my space" or "hey, if I wasn't with this doofus you'd have a chance". Like they want to flirt and feel "he was hot for me" but would be freaked out if you tried to make serious conversation.

That make any sense?

Bear in mind there a more then just a few women who like the drama and try and make men jealous to justify themselves.

DrKaje is so very correct in this thread (minus the stables) with his advice.

With the information in this thread if I had to choose one of you I would choose him.
He is showing enough confidence to pique my interest.  

"Analysts" appear wimpy and unappealing.  Good looking women get hit on all the time and we have to filter the "wimps" out.  I can only comment on myself, but if you are not confident enough to take a chance I am not interested in you.

No offense meant here, I am just trying to explain things... I apologize if this comes across a little harsh.
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Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2009, 12:05:46 PM »
Bear in mind there a more then just a few women who like the drama and try and make men jealous to justify themselves.

DrKaje is so very correct in this thread (minus the stables) with his advice.

With the information in this thread if I had to choose one of you I would choose him.
He is showing enough confidence to pique my interest.  

"Analysts" appear wimpy and unappealing.  Good looking women get hit on all the time and we have to filter the "wimps" out.  I can only comment on myself, but if you are not confident enough to take a chance I am not interested in you.

No offense meant here, I am just trying to explain things... I apologize if this comes across a little harsh.

You're exactly right.......good looking women get "hit on" all the time.  But very rarely do they get approached by men they are actually interested in.  The hotter the chick the more guy craved she is in my opinion.  She's so used to all the losers hitting on her that it takes a really impressive, confident guy to wow her.  But that's why also the hotter the chick the more high maintenance she is for the most part.  You've got to constantly be hitting your PR with her throughout the relationship or she'll get bored and realize there are bigger and better out there.  See women love to complicate things and make themselves out to be these intriguing, sophisticated, complex people...........in reality they are very simple and easy to please once as a man you learn how to unlock them with the right key. 

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Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2009, 12:08:06 PM »
Oh and for other guys that are as clueless as DeltsaForce............. .WOMEN DON'T WANT YOU TO BE SUBTLE!  Why the fuck do you think they spend $200 on their hair, $50 dollars on their nails, all that time in the salon, putting on their make up, just so some guy will come up and tap her on her shoulder and whisper in her ear "can I take you out sometime"???????????  They want you to be unlike every other guy that has ever asked them out.  That's what confidence is all about.  Any guy that can walk up to a group of women in a bar and start flirting with one he finds attractive has a huge set of balls no amount of muscles can ever duplicate.  Knowing full well he will get 100% cock block from her friends and keep on going. 

We have winner here!

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If you look at playing the "Game of Pursuit" as the fun part and "hooking up" as a by product you will have more success then you will know what to do with.  
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Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2009, 12:09:04 PM »
Bear in mind there a more then just a few women who like the drama and try and make men jealous to justify themselves.

DrKaje is so very correct in this thread (minus the stables) with his advice.

With the information in this thread if I had to choose one of you I would choose him.
He is showing enough confidence to pique my interest. 

"Analysts" appear wimpy and unappealing.  Good looking women get hit on all the time and we have to filter the "wimps" out.  I can only comment on myself, but if you are not confident enough to take a chance I am not interested in you.

No offense meant here, I am just trying to explain things... I apologize if this comes across a little harsh.



Not at all. I'd much rather read the unfettered thoughts of a woman than anything posted from a cyber-geek.

I think I have not been clear on few things --- and let us not forget the amount of bravado that is used on internet -- a lot of the male contributions here are typical of any forum full of guys living out a fantasy version of themselves. I am not  doing so

I am well-educated, reasonably solvent and have very good looks. I have never been short of women who are interested in me and make that clear (you'll have to take a leap of faith here and trust me that this is the truth and not internet gusto :D )

I have no problem understanding a women in a certain environment that young singles meet... making it clear she wants to be approached - bars, parties, clubs etc...

I also notice that throughout my day I will have maybe five or six lesser interactions - smiles, prolonged eye contact etc - with women in situations where interaction is at best difficult and at times impossible. My only  real interest here is what the women of this board make of these situations and what they feel they are trying to communicate to a male in these said situations if they also have them. I  am honestly  only interested in a woman's perspective.

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Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2009, 12:16:17 PM »
Ahhh,

I misunderstood, but I am blonde for a reason.

Most often or not what you are describing in the coffee shop or the like is a polite smile.

But...
You never know.

I got stopped once in the middle of a street and asked for my number. 
That was waaay too forward, but I did have a coffee with him to try and "figure him out".
He sucked! lol
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Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2009, 12:18:02 PM »

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Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2009, 12:23:21 PM »
Ahhh,

I misunderstood, but I am blonde for a reason.

Most often or not what you are describing in the coffee shop or the like is a polite smile.

But...
You never know.

I got stopped once in the middle of a street and asked for my number. 
That was waaay too forward, but I did have a coffee with him to try and "figure him out".
He sucked! lol

 Yes, I think most often it is a polite smile. Sometimes it's kinda a little more. The vibe is a bit more..."oh, you like me...well you're quite cute so I don't mind it" but still not an open invitation to saunter over and start talking over cappuccinos.

Hey, the guy who accosted you on the street got the coffee opportunity...His forwardness got his foot in door, tough for him that he couldn't get it open :)