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where is belongs
BUSH!
lemme explain something in simple math to yall (i need the need to, cause of the "no mor err child left behind" initiative, which means plenty of morons actually got to graduate, and millions of yrs of nature rule (darwanism) got ignored.
when you have (lets say) $100 in the bank, you cant take out $35 (war), and NOT EXPECT TO BE POORER AS A RESULT.
wrong as it sounds.....call it poetic justice.....the mor...err bipeds (cant really quantify em as humans) that did elect him 2cie are the ones losing their jobs homes and hopefully healthcare. Soon they'll croak off of one disease or the other. Hey wait..darwanism again. ;D
the end :)
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where is belongs
BUSH!
lemme explain something in simple math to yall (i need the need to cause of the "no mor err child left behind" initiative, which means plenty of morons actually got to graduate, and millions of yrs of nature rule (darwanism) got ignored.
when you have (lets say) $100 in the bank, you cant take out $35 (war), and NOT EXPECT TO BE POORER AS A RESULT.
wrong as it sounds.....call it poetic justice.....the mor...err bipeds (cant really quantify em as humans) that did elect him 2cie are the ones losing their jobs homes and hopefully healthcare. Soon they'll croak off of one disease or the other. Hey wait..darwanism again. ;D
the end :)
Sorry, that dog dont bark. The Dems have controlled congress for three years now and have made things much worse.
Both share a ton of blame.
However, Obama is just a continuation of Bush with what he is doing.
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Sorry, that dog dont bark.
so the DEMs ignored Osama bin Ladin and went to war with saddam and spend billions , created more Osamas and <ahem> found weapons of mass destruction!
Which BTW SADDAM WOULDA USED IF HE HAD HAD EM (makes sence no? ....huge army about to invade....might have been a good time to use em...??)
plez..dont breed
thankyou
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so the DEMs ignored Osama bin Ladin and went to war with saddam and spend billions , created more Osamas and <ahem> found weapons of mass destruction!
Which BTW SADDAM WOULDA USED IF HE HAD HAD EM (makes sence no? ....huge army about to invade....might have been a good time to use em...??)
plez..dont breed
thankyou
They all voted for the war.
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I love how conservative keep quiet about Bush spending billions of American dollars in Iraq on rebuilding another country while our own country was run into the ditch.
Now Obama wants to spend a fraction of that cost within the US and they are whining all over the place.
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I love how conservative keep quiet about Bush spending billions of American dollars in Iraq on rebuilding another country while our own country was run into the ditch.
Now Obama wants to spend a fraction of that cost within the US and they are whining all over the place.
Its not a fraction, its many times more.
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Its not a fraction, its many times more.
kinda makes more sence spending on our own country dontcha think?
or does the concept elude you?
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They all voted for the war.
sure they did....just like i shat myself right now....
didn't feel like it.....but did it just outta fun....
i know..i know...the analogy eludes you...
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kinda makes more sence spending on our own country dontcha think?
or does the concept elude you?
Bingo! I mean, it's not like a single American gained anything from the BILLIONS that was spent on Iraq? Did you get a timeshare? I didn't. And wouldn't want one either. So what has Americans got to show for the money spent over there? Nothing.
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Its not a fraction, its many times more.
Post numbers.
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They all voted for the war.
No, what they voted on was a utter LIE and DECEPTION that was presented to them by Cheney and Bush.
Funny how you blindly follow along and defend little Bush just as blindly as he march through 8 years of complete failure to this nation. Good job!
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Moron. It goes way deeper than 1 person. Bush is to blame for Iraq and that is/was costly, but the recession has more to do with a meltdown of the financial system which dates back to the early to mid 90s. I also believe its a change in culture, both greed and entitlements. Obama is doing more than his share of increasing our national debt, far more than Bush if you read the #s.
There are incentives for short selling in the market, which creates a volitile system. Bush didn't have anything to do with this. This needs to be addressed. Steve Forbes talks inteligently on this subject.
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kinda makes more sence spending on our own country dontcha think?
or does the concept elude you?
it does not matter if you are spending money you dont have. Even the CBO is saying Obama is lying and grossly inflating his estimates for what the economy will do.
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I love how conservative keep quiet about Bush spending billions of American dollars in Iraq on rebuilding another country while our own country was run into the ditch.
Now Obama wants to spend a fraction of that cost within the US and they are whining all over the place.
Hilarious.. We dont see an ROI on the WMD war at all. Atleast this is emercency spending to get us on the right track like FDR did. This spending is investment (from what i can see but i might be wrong) Bush was throwing money down a big dry toilet called IRAQ and got some of our men and women killed in the process. Also to the point that "they all voted for war"....it was based off intelligence that was false. So they voted it under false pretences
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Hilarious.. We dont see an ROI on the WMD war at all. Atleast this is emercency spending to get us on the right track like FDR did. This spending is investment (from what i can see but i might be wrong) Bush was throwing money down a big dry toilet called IRAQ and got some of our men and women killed in the process. Also to the point that "they all voted for war"....it was based off intelligence that was false. So they voted it under false pretences
So the dumbest ever president Bush was able to fool the brilliant Kerry & Hillary?
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So the dumbest ever president Bush was able to fool the brilliant Kerry & Hillary?
They got intelligence from the presidents people. Now did they think he was gonna lie and get 2k soliders killed. im guessing no. They followed the intelligence that was given by their president.
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I am going to post this link everywhere so that you americans can see what Obama is about and figure out what not only Bush was about, but what all presidents were about. They are all tools for the corporate world and the influential. NONE OF THEM HAVE BEEN ANYTHING BUT DISASTROUS FOR AMERICA AND ITS PEOPLE
PLEASE WATCH
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7886780711843120756
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Mal, I agree about Iraq...at least from the info the general public gets. Perhaps it will lead to a better Iraq but we should never have gone in there and Bush wasted a lot of our taxpayor monies.
However, if you think all the spending the Obama administration is doing is well focused to battle the recession, you are mistaken. He is creating big gov and big programs that cause reliance on gov. This administration will spend more of our money in 20 months than Bush did the whole last 4 years, including war expendatures. Obama is printing and spending money like crazy. Much of it is for democratic projects that have little to directly do with the current recession. We will be paying for his spending over the next decade....and our taxes will have to go up. Some of the $ is well intended but gov is so wasteful and not all the money will be well spent. Look at AIG...look at blank checks being given to the states.
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Many historical experts believe it was WWII, not FDRs new deal spending that got the US out of the great depression.
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Bush didn't have anything to do with this.
translation.....i'm an idiot loving, trunk driving, confederate flag flying , fox watching, weeping while masterbating to sarah palin, trying REALLLLLLLLLLY hard to prove my whiteness ...guy ;)
http://costofwar.com/
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it does not matter if you are spending money you dont have.
1) Obama = spending money we dont have FOR OUR OWN COUNTRY
2) Bush did it cause he thought Saddams cock ws bigger....ie NO WMDs found or existed
Translation....Obama is trying to fix the pile of shit left behind by bush
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1) Obama = spending money we dont have FOR OUR OWN COUNTRY
2) Bush did it cause he thought Saddams cock ws bigger....ie NO WMDs found or existed
Translation....Obama is trying to fix the pile of shit left behind by bush
QFT
But yet... the onionheads will act as though this simple fact doesn't exist.
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1) Obama = spending money we dont have FOR OUR OWN COUNTRY
2) Bush did it cause he thought Saddams cock ws bigger....ie NO WMDs found or existed
Translation....Obama is trying to fix the pile of shit left behind by bush
Grow up. Even Krugman is saying Obama sucks.
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Grow up. Even Krugman is saying Obama sucks.
think i hurts its feeluns......and i didn't even use the word inbred...owell...ya try to be nice... :-\
NOW SLOOOOOLY re read the thread title...
its NOT "bush is better than Obama or vice versa"
i wouldn't insult a pile of dog shit by comparising it to bush ;)
the topic pertains to why we aren't seen more blame flung at bush
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The blame Bush crowd starting blaming bush in Jan of 01'. Its Obama's ship now..and its sinking.
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The blame Bush crowd starting blaming bush in Jan of 01'. Its Obama's ship now..and its sinking.
How, unless you can tell the future..you dont know what affect Obama will have...he hasnt been in office 100 days...
Bush...well we see where he got us...so fucked up that racist america picked a black man with the middle name Huessien
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The blame Bush crowd starting blaming bush in Jan of 01'. Its Obama's ship now..and its sinking.
ummm Bush handed over a sunk ship.....
hope you are middle class
goodluck! ;D
but then again....i do need someone to mow my grass....its much more fun when a rebp does it :-*
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Well considering every nutbag has begun to come out from whatever rock we had them hiding under, and Obama has spent us into the basement...Bush looks like a genius. Its been a great 100 days. ::)
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Ur still blaming Bush when the Dems can't pay taxes, in bed with AIG, Fannie, Freddie....caused the housing crisis....Bush is gone, get over it.
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Well considering every nutbag has begun to come out from whatever rock we had them hiding under, and Obama has spent us into the basement...Bush looks like a genius. Its been a great 100 days. ::)
I didnt see an attack...you?
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Well considering every nutbag has begun to come out from whatever rock we had them hiding under, and Obama has spent us into the basement...Bush looks like a genius. Its been a great 100 days. ::)
100 days worth of $ spent on the USA....at least the man is trying and dosen't have daddy's cock formly implanted in said mouth
as far as hitting rox...aren't you a military man???
hey i hope we do hit rox....i'll be the first one laughing my ass off when middle class scum like you loses healthcare ;D
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Ur still blaming Bush when the Dems can't pay taxes, in bed with AIG, Fannie, Freddie....caused the housing crisis....Bush is gone, get over it.
So its the dems fault..its all the dems fault is what your saying...how much did that war cost
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I didnt see an attack...you?
Bush WAS the attack!
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Hahaha, Toxic is 32, lives at home with his parents, makes $75k/year, has a massive drinking and drug problem, talks about marrying a girl 3 weeks after meeting her, and gets dumped by said girl two weeks later. You're the epitome of middle class.
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Hahaha, Toxic is 32, lives at home with his parents, makes $75k/year, has a massive drinking and drug problem, talks about marrying a girl 3 weeks after meeting her, and gets dumped by said girl two weeks later. You're the epitome of middle class.
32...never done laundry...work 2 weeks / month....on vacation most of the time....
again..Bitchfury cant stay on topic....want me to post your mothers phone number again??? for which btw ron DID NOT ban me?
or did that silky voiced minx change it...
o..for the record...i quit the drinking...and the coke...heightened liver enzymes n all..but you were a bio major last we talked..so you should ve well versed! :)
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so the DEMs ignored Osama bin Ladin
Correct!! Clinton preferred to have his weewee sucked then capturing Bin Laden when the Sudanese were willing to turn him over to the U.S.
and went to war with saddam and spend billions , created more Osamas and <ahem> found weapons of mass destruction!
A war which has been won. You don't read any more articles by the New York Times reporting every single suicide bombing or attack by Al Qaeda. That is your proof that Iraq has moved forward. If it was as bad as it was before, the Times would be reporting it everyday.
Weapons of mass destruction? You mean the same weapons that Clinton himself said existed? The same weapons that every single agency, including the United Nations, claimed existed? Last I look, Democrats voted to go to war and they had the same information Bush had.
plez..dont breed
Hope you take your own advice.
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Well good job on finally breaking a habit that was on track to kill you. Regardless, you're still middle class, so I don't know why you're talking shit.
Oh, and a little hint. Don't go talking about Darwinism (learn to spell it first) when you can't even type coherently and you spent the last decade abusing all manners of drugs. One can only hope you're sterile because the world doesn't need another coke sniffing, pill popping retard who lives with mommy and daddy past the age of 30. ;)
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Correct!! Clinton preferred to have his weewee sucked then capturing Bin Laden when the Sudanese were willing to turn him over to the U.S.
proving Bush ws right by proving clinton wrongish.......hit that one right out of the ball park!
A war which has been won.
so to anywhere in Europe and wear a USA tee shirt....you'll see exactly how big we won!
Weapons of mass destruction?
yeah the one that served an escape goat for Osama...911 did not happen on clintons watch
and again....please dont breed...you'r sister will surely thankyou!
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Well good job on finally breaking a habit that was on track to kill you. Regardless, you're still middle class, so I don't know why you're talking shit.
Oh, and a little hint. Don't go talking about Darwinism (learn to spell it first) when you can't even type coherently and you spent the last decade abusing all manners of drugs. One can only hope you're sterile because the world doesn't need another coke sniffing, pill popping retard who lives with mommy and daddy past the age of 30. ;)
again..nothing to do with topic at hand...and yes i suck at typing....
that having 100s of folks call your house musta really stung! ;D
anyhow...i got a UFO video to watch...
when you gather enough IQ to actually read the subject at hand ..we'll talk...
plus..remember....this isn't the X....wanna get put in timeout again? ;D
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I find it absolutely hilarious that your brain is fried to the point that you can't even type coherently yet you're always telling everyone how much better you are than them. Yessiree, Darwinism at work folks. To think, living at home at 32 and destroying your body with drugs is "success" to you. How sad. :-\
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A Democratic member of the 9/11 commission says there was a larger issue: The Clinton administration treated bin Laden as a law enforcement problem.
Bob Kerry, a former senator and current 9/11 commission member, said, “The most important thing the Clinton administration could have done would have been for the president, either himself or by going to Congress, asking for a congressional declaration to declare war on al-Qaida, a military-political organization that had declared war on us.”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4540958/
"From the Horse's Mouth"
Ironically, the US Administration's undercover military-intelligence operations in Bosnia have been fully documented by the Republican Party. A lengthy Congressional report by the Republican Party Committee (RPC) published in 1997, largely confirms the International Media Corporation report quoted above. The RPC Congressional report accuses the Clinton administration of having "helped turn Bosnia into a militant Islamic base" leading to the recruitment through the so-called "Militant Islamic Network," of thousands of Mujahideen from the Muslim world:
Perhaps most threatening to the SFOR mission - and more importantly, to the safety of the American personnel serving in Bosnia - is the unwillingness of the Clinton Administration to come clean with the Congress and with the American people about its complicity in the delivery of weapons from Iran to the Muslim government in Sarajevo. That policy, personally approved by Bill Clinton in April 1994 at the urging of CIA Director-designate (and then-NSC chief) Anthony Lake and the U.S. ambassador to Croatia Peter Galbraith, has, according to the Los Angeles Times (citing classified intelligence community sources), "played a central role in the dramatic increase in Iranian influence in Bosnia.
(...)
Along with the weapons, Iranian Revolutionary Guards and VEVAK intelligence operatives entered Bosnia in large numbers, along with thousands of mujahedin ("holy warriors") from across the Muslim world. Also engaged in the effort were several other Muslim countries (including Brunei, Malaysia, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, and Turkey) and a number of radical Muslim organizations. For example, the role of one Sudan-based "humanitarian organization," called the Third World Relief Agency, has been well documented. The Clinton Administration's "hands-on" involvement with the Islamic network's arms pipeline included inspections of missiles from Iran by U.S. government officials... the Third World Relief Agency (TWRA), a Sudan-based, phoney humanitarian organization ... has been a major link in the arms pipeline to Bosnia. ... TWRA is believed to be connected with such fixtures of the Islamic terror network as Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman (the convicted mastermind behind the 1993 World Trade Center bombing) and Osama Bin Laden, a wealthy Saudi émigré believed to bankroll numerous militant groups. [Washington Post, 9/22/96] 6
Complicity of the Clinton Administration
In other words, the Republican Party Committee report confirms unequivocally the complicity of the Clinton Administration with several Islamic fundamentalist organisations including Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda.
The Republicans wanted at the time to undermine the Clinton Administration. However, at a time when the entire country had its eyes riveted on the Monica Lewinsky scandal, the Republicans no doubt chose not to trigger an untimely "Iran-Bosniagate" affair, which might have unduly diverted public attention away from the Lewinsky scandal. The Republicans wanted to impeach Bill Clinton "for having lied to the American People" regarding his affair with White House intern Monica Lewinsky. On the more substantive "foreign policy lies" regarding drug running and covert operations in the Balkans, Democrats and Republicans agreed in unison, no doubt pressured by the Pentagon and the CIA not to "spill the beans".
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO110A.html
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I find it absolutely hilarious that your brain is fried to the point that you can't even type coherently yet you're always telling everyone how much better you are than them. Yessiree, Darwinism at work folks. To think, living at home at 32 and destroying your body with drugs is "success" to you. How sad. :-\
Typical democrat voter.
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“I worked hard to try and kill him,” former president Bill Clinton told Fox News Sunday. “I tried. I tried and failed.”
“Him” is Osama bin Laden. And in his interview with Fox News’ Chris Wallace, the former president based nearly his entire defense on one source: Against All Enemies: Inside America’s War on Terror, the book by former White House counterterrorism chief Richard Clarke. “All I’m asking is if anybody wants to say I didn’t do enough, you read Richard Clarke’s book,” Clinton said at one point in the interview. “All you have to do is read Richard Clarke’s book to look at what we did in a comprehensive systematic way to try to protect the country against terror,” he said at another. “All you have to do is read Richard Clarke’s findings and you know it’s not true,” he said at yet another point. In all, Clinton mentioned Clarke’s name 11 times during the Fox interview.
But Clarke’s book does not, in fact, support Clinton’s claim. Judging by Clarke’s sympathetic account — as well as by the sympathetic accounts of other former Clinton aides like Daniel Benjamin and Steven Simon — it’s not quite accurate to say that Clinton tried to kill bin Laden. Rather, he tried to convince — as opposed to, say, order — U.S. military and intelligence agencies to kill bin Laden. And when, on a number of occasions, those agencies refused to act, Clinton, the commander-in-chief, gave up.
But the bottom line is that Bill Clinton, the commander-in-chief, could not find the will to order the military into action against al Qaeda, and Bill Clinton, the head of the executive branch, could not find the will to order the CIA and FBI to act. No matter what the former president says on Fox, or anywhere else, that is his legacy in the war on terror.
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MDM4N2E1MzU5ZjQ0YTA3YmJiYzEyYjQ2ZDBiNWJlYjE=
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Think terrorism or the capture of bin Laden was a central focus to the supposedly obsessed former president? Hardly. In a one—hour, seventeen minute speech to the nation on January 19, 1999, this is all President Clinton had to say about such issues:
As we work for peace, we must also meet threats to our nation's security, including increased danger from outlaw nations and terrorism. CLINTON: We will defend our security wherever we are threatened —— as we did this summer when we struck at Osama bin Laden's network of terror.
The bombing of our embassies in Kenya and Tanzania reminds us again of the risks faced every day by those who represent America to the world. So let's give them the support they need, the safest possible workplaces, and the resources they must have so America can continue to lead.
We must work to keep terrorists from disrupting computer networks. We must work to prepare local communities for biological and chemical emergencies, to support research into vaccines and treatments.
Furthermore, twelve months later, even though he spoke for almost an hour and a half during his final State of the Union address on January 27, 2000, according to a LexisNexis search, the name Osama bin Laden was never mentioned. This appears almost impossible to believe given revelations that very morning about a connection between the individual apprehended trying to cross the Canadian border with explosives in December and bin Laden.
So much for obsession.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2006/09/bill_clinton_bin_laden_and_hys.html
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kinda makes more sence spending on our own country dontcha think?
or does the concept elude you?
The concept of me paying for dirty filthy scumbags who took out motgages and cant pay them eludes me.The idea of fools like Barney Fag and Chris Dodd forcing banks to give out loans to ignorant fools all in the name of diversity eludes me.The idea that we cant just let companies fail but have to give our money to prop them up eludes me.Paying the GMs to stay afloat to appease filthy uniions eludes me.Capping money of CEOs eludes me.Passing a cap and trade system that will raise my utility bill at least 700 a year eludes me.Paying for filthy illegals health care eludes me.Those are the things that elude me.
Putting a fool ass blue mouthed idiot like Obama,whos claim to fame is organising a rat hole into a shit hole eludes the hell out of me.
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And the public is mostly satisfied with the results, with 53% saying the war has been successful, up from 43% in July 2008. Sixteen percent say it is very likely there will be an all-out civil war in Iraq when U.S. troops leave, compared with 40% who thought that in June 2007.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123612000246123253.html
Little Time for Good News. The last six months have seen a massive reduction in insurgent attacks and U.S. casualties. But the three broadcast evening newscasts have shown little interest in the good news, with coverage dropping every month since September.
A 2005 survey of top journalists conducted by the Pew Research Center found the media were far more anti-war than the general public. The networks' performance over last five years makes that painfully obvious.
http://www.mediaresearch.org/realitycheck/2008/fax20080317.asp
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Even Obama admits the Iraq War is now a success:
Sept. 4 (Bloomberg) -- Barack Obama said the surge of American forces in Iraq has ``succeeded beyond our wildest dreams,'' though Iraqis still haven't done enough to take responsibility for their country.
``The surge has succeeded in ways that nobody anticipated,'' Obama, the Democratic presidential nominee, said in a recorded interview broadcast tonight on Fox News's ``The O'Reilly Factor'' program.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aSPSq3q1shRI&refer=home
President Obama himself congratulated American troops at Camp Lejeune on Feb. 27, saying they had achieved their central objectives: removing the Hussein regime and enabling the formation of a sovereign government in Baghdad.
"You got the job done," the president said twice
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03/19/iraq-war-years-later-success-victory/
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100 days worth of $ spent on the USA....at least the man is trying and dosen't have daddy's cock formly implanted in said mouth
as far as hitting rox...aren't you a military man???
hey i hope we do hit rox....i'll be the first one laughing my ass off when middle class scum like you loses healthcare ;D
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100 days worth of $ spent on the USA....at least the man is trying and dosen't have daddy's cock formly implanted in said mouth
as far as hitting rox...aren't you a military man???
hey i hope we do hit rox....i'll be the first one laughing my ass off when middle class scum like you loses healthcare ;D
Ah...I have healthcare for life and for someone who claims Oxford on his resume, u type like the 3rd worlder u claim ur not.
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On a good note, wall street liked the gov plan to buy the bad bank assets. Unfortunately, the taxpayor will be picking up the tab bailing out greedy lenders and many people who got loans they shouldn't have.
However, the wall street news today is good!
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Protein, nice job of taking an except of what I said without the full context. Bush had nothing to do with the short term sales mentality of wall street. That needs to be addressed, as Steve Forbes has repeatedly mentioned.
Protein, you sound like a spoonfed liberal windup doll.
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I have no idea where he stands.....He hates Bush....beyond that, who knows.
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On a good note, wall street liked the gov plan to buy the bad bank assets. Unfortunately, the taxpayor will be picking up the tab bailing out greedy lenders and many people who got loans they shouldn't have.
However, the wall street news today is good!
Many are saying this is a brief bear market rally
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I find it absolutely hilarious that your brain is fried to the point that you can't even type coherently yet you're always telling everyone how much better you are than them. Yessiree, Darwinism at work folks. To think, living at home at 32 and destroying your body with drugs is "success" to you. How sad. :-\
i simply adore how under your skin i am
before you refute that..as yourself....who attacks whom 99% of the time?
toodles
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Mal, I agree about Iraq...at least from the info the general public gets. Perhaps it will lead to a better Iraq but we should never have gone in there and Bush wasted a lot of our taxpayor monies.
However, if you think all the spending the Obama administration is doing is well focused to battle the recession, you are mistaken. He is creating big gov and big programs that cause reliance on gov. This administration will spend more of our money in 20 months than Bush did the whole last 4 years, including war expendatures. Obama is printing and spending money like crazy. Much of it is for democratic projects that have little to directly do with the current recession. We will be paying for his spending over the next decade....and our taxes will have to go up. Some of the $ is well intended but gov is so wasteful and not all the money will be well spent. Look at AIG...look at blank checks being given to the states.