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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Sherief Shalaby on March 25, 2009, 11:03:07 PM
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Doz getting owned into oblivion.....
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Haney's legs are definitely underrated
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Haney's legs are definitely underrated
yes i always say this.. may be because of his huge wide torso they looked smaller than their reality!!..
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also lee's calves were good which is something rare among black guys..
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this was probably the best contest for his legs, some of his early O wins he looked like he was walking on sticks!
but i think dorian holds his own in this one. i also think haney was a way better poser than dorian.
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Haney wins...
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Haney wins...
no doubt!
but i don't think it was a complete wash out.
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no doubt!
but i don't think it was a complete wash out.
of course it was not..
dorian was the most comparable with lee haney among all his runner ups..
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They're comparable but Haney Haney the edge in detail and muscle maturity, to be expected of someone nearing the end of the line vs. someone just rising to prominence.
At their best no contest Yates over Haney; they were already close there with Yates far from his best.
Haney's legs looking better there than what was seen prior to that.
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i think 92' yates would probably have edged out 91' haney, polotics aside.
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i think 92' yates would probably have edged out 91' haney, polotics aside.
yates 93 for sure but yates 92 was nearly the same as yates 91..
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Dorian's colour is better-its white...he wins hands down
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Haney wins.
Dorians pec is thin.
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haney kills him..
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Why doesn't Haney get more talk here on GB?
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Why doesn't Haney get more talk here on GB?
lack of gh gut, too aesthetic, didn't train to tear tendons, etc
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Why doesn't Haney get more talk here on GB?
Don't know.....
I think he is overrated though. Good for a few O titles.....but not 8 of them.
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Why doesn't Haney get more talk here on GB?
getbig seems to have 2 camps: before yates and after yates. BY & AY
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yates 93 for sure but yates 92 was nearly the same as yates 91..
Not that much different but still improved and probably would have won. Haney doesn't destroy Dorian here. they're pretty close. Both are complete but haney's chest is much fuller and shoulders a bit fuller also. More muscle maturity of course for Haney. But it's close still.
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getbig seems to have 2 camps: before yates and after yates. BY & AY
Well, BBing is divided in twoeras: before and after Yates.Non one not even Arnold had such an impact on the Bbing criterias. You might not like those criterias (personnaly I'm against it) but there's no doubt Yates changed the rules like no one before.
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Why doesn't Haney get more talk here on GB?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_(classification_of_human_ beings) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_(classification_of_human_beings))
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Don't know.....
I think he is overrated though. Good for a few O titles.....but not 8 of them.
So which ones of the 8 did he not deserve?
This should be interesting :D
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The most controversial of Hany's Sandows is the '90 against Labrada. '89 also could or should have gone to Labrada but it wasn't as clear. I've never seen the picture of '87 but I've heard a lot of people sayin' that Gaspari should have won. So that's five clear wins. Same could be said for Arnold, Yates, Coleman or Zane BTW.
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The most controversial of Hany's Sandows is the '90 against Labrada. '89 also could or should have gone to Labrada but it wasn't as clear. I've never seen the picture of '87 but I've heard a lot of people sayin' that Gaspari should have won. So that's five clear wins. Same could be said for Arnold, Yates, Coleman or Zane BTW.
i have all the 8 contests he won on my computer and he was always the clear winner.. yes in 1990 (the drug tested show) he was not full as his normal.. I shall watch it again to see if labrada really deserved to win ;D
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The most controversial of Hany's Sandows is the '90 against Labrada. '89 also could or should have gone to Labrada but it wasn't as clear. I've never seen the picture of '87 but I've heard a lot of people sayin' that Gaspari should have won. So that's five clear wins. Same could be said for Arnold, Yates, Coleman or Zane BTW.
While his most controversial was 90 (they drug tested that year), Haney still deserved to win- same in 89.
87 in Gotenberg Haney won by a country mile. Gaspari was the best he ever looked at that show and posed to a song sung by his brother called destiny, however Haney clearly won.
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Haney's pleasing physique > Yates' ugly physique
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Haney's routine from 1987.
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Gaspari 1987 - His best ever condition.
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Outside of the ham and glute area , Haney wins on all fronts..hahahahaha
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Labrada 1987 - Just look at that posing - a master at work.
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Gaspari 1987 - His best ever condition.
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You had me at 1:23....
Seriously though his arms look weird in some shots. Midget arms or something.
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Is this the only pic of Yates ever being beaten in a back pose?
Haney made him look like an amatuer
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As good as gaspari was, i don't see him beating Haney. Haney has a few "weaknesses" so to say, arms and quads (at least thatyear) relatively small. But Gaspari has flaws also. Labrada on the other hand brings something totally different from the others. His overall shape is fantastic though no individual part strikes you as being spectacular. Proportions are out of this world.
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As good as gaspari was, i don't see him beating Haney. Haney has a few "weaknesses" so to say, arms and quads (at least thatyear) relatively small. But Gaspari has flaws also. Labrada on the other hand brings something totally different from the others. His overall shape is fantastic though no individual part strikes you as being spectacular. Proportions are out of this world.
I agree with you that Labradas proportions are fantastic, its just when Haney stood next to him he was just to small (176lbs against 240lbs.) Haney just overwhelmed him.
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Haney is awesome. He's got to have one of the best characters of any Mr. O. I think he was/is a great spokesperson for the sport.
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I think he is overrated though. Good for a few O titles.....but not 8 of them.
That's part of why he doesn't get talked about as much, he was good but not great; his physique wasn't spectacular and had major balance issues. He lucked out in terms of his competition he faced then, in getting 8 titles. The Larry Holmes of BB.
Being a good spokesman for the "sport" was a big advantage, Weider had a history of favoring this against guys who might've been physically better, like Fox for example who clearly had better balance and more overall size, or Padilla or Robinson, who he looked up to. Against a prime condition Yates or Coleman obviously he loses those too.
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Haney wins that year. Dorians legs were more massive but Haney had better overall detail/maturity. Upper body goes to Haney.
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That's part of why he doesn't get talked about as much, he was good but not great; his physique wasn't spectacular and had major balance issues. He lucked out in terms of his competition he faced then, in getting 8 titles. The Larry Holmes of BB.
Being a good spokesman for the "sport" was a big advantage, Weider had a history of favoring this against guys who might've been physically better, like Fox for example who clearly had better balance and more overall size, or Padilla or Robinson, who he looked up to. Against a prime condition Yates or Coleman obviously he loses those too.
I agree that Haney did not face the level of competition that was around in the '90's. Except for Yates, no one came close to Haney's size and structure. Gaspari was great but he was too narrow when he stood next to Haney and Labrada was too small. Christian had the height but his legs were too weak. Strydom looked great from the front but Haney destroyed him from the back. The contest was usually over when the initial line-up came out and Haney was taller and wider than everyone in the contest with a tiny waist. When the '90's came along, you had much, much better competition with Flex Wheeler, Kevin Levrone, Yates, Shawn Ray, Paul Dillett and the rest.
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You had me at 1:23....
Seriously though his arms look weird in some shots. Midget arms or something.
Those are called "shitty" arms BSB
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Haney was bigger than most during his time and had more balance and less weaknesses than the few guys who could match or exceed his size at the time. He was somehow transitional between the classic physiques and the mass monsters next to come. The fact that he somehow falls in between has worked against him as far as his "legacy" is concerned. Unfortunately for him, it's Yates who brought things up to the next level drastically.
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IMO Lee Labrada was a little twink. Vastly overrated
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Who here watches TotaLEE fit?
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IMO Lee Labrada was a little twink. Vastly overrated
he was little but def not overrated
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lack of gh gut, too aesthetic, didn't train to tear tendons, etc
LMAO..right..
He looks good there..
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Diesellll!!!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/dekethecreep/IMG_1204_edited.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/dekethecreep/l_4f940cf806634fa985be5d18532f92b8.jpg)
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Doz getting owned into oblivion.....
you are tripping. i was there, Yates won the muscularity round, fact.
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Is this the only pic of Yates ever being beaten in a back pose?
no, Momo beat him in the night of champs. after that Yates back became a strong point.
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you are tripping. i was there, Yates won the muscularity round, fact.
i know he did but i don't know HOW!!!.. may be the fact he was the first big guy to challenge haney made the judges overrate him in the muscularity round!!.. but of course dorian looked great here and was the clear runner up.. it was like... haney... then dorian.................. .................. then the others ;D
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Yates didn't do too badly - placing second on his first olympia showing. However Haney had the overall package. It would have been interesting to see Haney compete in '92 vs yates.