Getbig.com: American Bodybuilding, Fitness and Figure
Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: GymTime on March 26, 2009, 09:42:41 AM
-
.
-
. . .and you are?
-
These are some older photos of when I did my first show. I am about 5'9.
I tried to line them up as accurately as I could.
In the before photos I weighed about 215 lbs
In the after photos I weighed about 175-180 lbs
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t224/SimplyHuge/BeforeandAfterPhotos.jpg)
Just thought I would share. Most people have probably seen these before just not combined as shown here.
The before pics are from your bulking phase during that year?
looking good, especially lower back.
-
you definately live up to your screen name 'simplyhuge' ::)
-
looking very good my man
-
These are some older photos of when I did my first show. I am about 5'9.
I tried to line them up as accurately as I could.
In the before photos I weighed about 215 lbs
In the after photos I weighed about 175-180 lbs
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t224/SimplyHuge/BeforeandAfterPhotos.jpg)
Just thought I would share. Most people have probably seen these before just not combined as shown here.
Like I said, change you handle shorty.
-
good job on the dieting
-
tell us about the dieting and cardio you did. Did you use ECA?
-
I must say I am very very impressed,you cut up very well while retaining all your muscle,very well done
-
Great transformation. Thanks for sharing.
-
Did you eat any vegetables like broccoli?
Or salads, or cut all the carbs out.
-
These are some older photos of when I did my first show. I am about 5'9.
I tried to line them up as accurately as I could.
In the before photos I weighed about 215 lbs
In the after photos I weighed about 175-180 lbs
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t224/SimplyHuge/BeforeandAfterPhotos.jpg)
Just thought I would share. Most people have probably seen these before just not combined as shown here.
you are arrogant beyond belief, however credit where its due, that is an impressive transformation and it does look like you lost virtually no muscle at all during your diet.
well done.
-
great transformation man !
-
Very nice, I applaud you on successfully cutting down and achieving an impressive transformation. The thing about you is that with clothes, you look like any other slim young man capable of wearing suits and other trendy outfits (Good thing) and when the clothes come off you have enough muscle and conditioning to be impressive.
You're "1" approved...
-
thx. except for the arrogant part.
i think perhaps you dont like me b/c i dont enjoy listening to the so-called "pseudo experts" on this board.
Haha most of the "experts" here who can't shut their pieholes when it comes to dishing out advice on everything training and diet related are also the same ones who refuse to post a pic to show that they walk the walk too.
Great job on your transformation, BTW - always good to see someone do it naturally.
-
Haha most of the "experts" here who can't shut their pieholes when it comes to dishing out advice on everything training and diet related are also the same ones who refuse to post a pic to show that they walk the walk too.
Great job on your transformation, BTW - always good to see someone do it naturally.
he's def not "natural" in the after pics ...nor in the before ;)
-
Very impressing and big change on the conditioning and possibly a little improvement on muscle size, or the impression of it.
What was your reasoning on (1) why the change in carbs, fats and calories taken in over time, and (2) how did you come up with the proportions-for example why lower both the fat and the calories at the same time vs. just one or the other? Was this based on prior experience? Also what was the time between the pics?
1. low carb - high fat - high calories
2. low carb - low fat - moderate calories
3. low carb - low fat - low calories
-
he's def not "natural" in the after pics ...nor in the before ;)
Wrong. 180 lb at around 9% body fat @ 5'9" is very achievable naturally, although it will take a fair bit of effort and some time. Besides, the guy says he did it naturally and there is no way you know that to be otherwise, unless you were with him 24/7, monitoring what he took and didn't take.
He's natural, Sev - get over it ;)
-
Dude, please share your diet and time line.
-
Looking good Simplyhuge - great transformation. 8)
-
Great stuff
Props
-
you need to start training that neck of yours.
-
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/DSCN0011.jpg)
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/DSCN0280-2.jpg)
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/DSCN0017.jpg)
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/DSCN0262.jpg)
-
Pretty amazing transformation. You have a naturally fast metabolism?
-
;D ;D
-
;D ;D
Brutal 14" neck.
-
;D ;D
good shit Go 4 it...what is the time line for that
-
Brutal 14" neck.
Lol..
good shit Go 4 it...what is the time line for that
I think around 4-5 months, the before pics after a two month break from lifting..
-
;D ;D
Awesome transformation but dude those legs haha.
-
Awesome transformation but dude those legs haha.
Don't laugh - Polio is no joke
-
Awesome transformation but dude those legs haha.
I agree..Don't laugh - Polio is no joke
My legs can grow...your hair can't...
-
Don't laugh - Polio is no joke
Those legs resemble someone coming out of a 6 month stay in Auschwitz WITH polio.
Why doesn't he go and build a nest in the trees already, dude's a bird.
-
My legs can grow...your hair can't...
LOL kiwiol has a bald spot?
-
Lets see your legs quadzilla..
-
I agree..
My legs can grow...your hair can't...
Oh Jeez, calm down sport, LOL - I was just being funny. I think you've got a great build and know you're one of the good guys on here who doesn't talk shit.
LOL kiwiol has a bald spot?
That's the least of my problems :-X
-
Lets see your legs quadzilla..
lol man I'm not claiming to have monster legs either, although bigger than yours yes. Otherwise you have a awesome physique, it's a shame you haven't brought up your legs a bit more.
I hope to fuel your leg workouts with fury. How tall are you if I may ask?
-
Oh Jeez, calm down sport, LOL - I was just being funny. I think you've got a great build and know you're one of the good guys on here who doesn't talk shit.
That's the least of my problems :-X
It's all good man, I was just responding sarcasticly in good fun, props to you as well for posting pics and backing up your talk.lol man I'm not claiming to have monster legs either, although bigger than yours yes. Otherwise you have a awesome physique, it's a shame you haven't brought up your legs a bit more.
I hope to fuel your leg workouts with fury. How tall are you if I may ask?
I agree, but I never trained legs as you can see.. been training them now consistanly for 5-6 months now, I never trained with aspirations to be a bodybuilder, I actually want to do trianthalons, and I usually run 3-4 times a week long distances anywhere from 6-8 miles each session..
-
lifetime natural.
as far as a timeline goes i took about 7 months to really diet down. I could have done it much fast, but at the very beginning i didnt even cut out all my carbs. i just cut out junk food and sugary foods for the first 2 months. after that i started doing the phase 1, 2, and 3, that i outlined earlier in this thread.
at the end of the diet, during phase 3, i was taking in around 1500-1800 calories per day.
mostly chicken, a lot of tuna fish, low carb protein powder, a lot of eggs, and some beef.
moderate vegetables as mentioned before like green beans, peas, broccoli, salads, etc.
water and diet soda were my main drinks. more water than soda though.
for sweets, i recommend no-carb jello. the black rasberry flavor. i would make a lot of it and eat it when i felt i needed something sweet.
i think consistency is key. i ate almost the same thing for every meal for almost every day. you dont think about it, you just do it. the more you think about it the less you will want to stay with it.
Your diet is essentially the same as mine year round. I just NEVER drink sodas though, in any form. Just don't like them. Coffee, water, milk, and tea are what I stick to. In terms of protein intake, same thing minus tuna if I can avoid it. It reads to be simple, and it is, it just takes the mind set to stick with it, especially when everyone you know doesn't give a damn about how they eat or look.
And in terms of "gurus" I hear you loud and clear. Honestly, they are great if you yourself aren't that educated on the whole fitness thing, but once you have your own knowledge base then it comes down to experimentation and figuring out what works for you best as a individual.
-
You`ve got a good upper body structure SH,very similar in shape to Mike Antorino.
http://musclememory.com/show.php?a=Antorino,+Michael
-
thx
sticking to it is key.
ding ding ding I tell people this all the time but it goes over their head for whatever reason. They want magical results in less than two weeks, and anything after that goes the bye bye when their ADD kicks in.
-
:)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=222371.0;attach=260322)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=222371.0;attach=272673)
-
Anorexia Nervosa is a serious disease.
-
Anorexia Nervosa is a serious disease.
It is, but I believe they've found a cure for it in the venom of the brown recluse spider.
-
It is, but I believe they've found a cure for it in the venom of the brown recluse spider.
I heard it makes you meet famous people all the time as well.
Wanna say hi to Sly? Get the fuck out there and get bit by a brown recluse!!
-
thx. except for the arrogant part.
i think perhaps you dont like me b/c i dont enjoy listening to the so-called "pseudo experts" on this board.
its not that, although why don't you listen to someone else on occassion ? do you think you know everything about bodybuilding? or just more than everyone else on getbig? ::)
the reason i think you are arrogant is in that other thread a while back you were insulting everyone who uses steroids, and claimed no one worked out as hard as you, or dieted as hard and users were taking the easy way out etc
-
its not that, although why don't you listen to someone else on occassion ? do you think you know everything about bodybuilding? or just more than everyone else on getbig? ::)
the reason i think you are arrogant is in that other thread a while back you were insulting everyone who uses steroids, and claimed no one worked out as hard as you, or dieted as hard and users were taking the easy way out etc
How's the cycle going?
-
I'd post my before pictures but as I am still fat i have no after pictures.
-
I'd post my before pictures but as I am still fat i have no after pictures.
You'll have some "after" pictures when I'm done with your sweet tight bum, boy.
-
You'll have some "after" pictures when I'm done with your sweet tight bum, boy.
I don't know what that means, but i don't like it
-
It is, but I believe they've found a cure for it in the venom of the brown recluse spider.
LOl! did you know that the guy who was healed after 20 years of wheelchair from that spider bite, thats in my town. i knew that guy, well everybody knew him...cuz he was a tweeker and would ride his wheelchair around the "ghetto" of our town everyday.
-
Before
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/dekethecreep/2001933364379884654_rs-3.jpg)
After,ripped to shredsss
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/dekethecreep/deeeeeek.jpg)
-
Before
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/dekethecreep/2001933364379884654_rs-3.jpg)
Hahaha...A totally mental looking bastard
-
LOl! did you know that the guy who was healed after 20 years of wheelchair from that spider bite, thats in my town. i knew that guy, well everybody knew him...cuz he was a tweeker and would ride his wheelchair around the "ghetto" of our town everyday.
That's interesting man. Have you seen him recently? What's his condition like?
-
lifetime natural.
as far as a timeline goes i took about 7 months to really diet down. I could have done it much fast, but at the very beginning i didnt even cut out all my carbs. i just cut out junk food and sugary foods for the first 2 months. after that i started doing the phase 1, 2, and 3, that i outlined earlier in this thread.
at the end of the diet, during phase 3, i was taking in around 1500-1800 calories per day.
mostly chicken, a lot of tuna fish, low carb protein powder, a lot of eggs, and some beef.
moderate vegetables as mentioned before like green beans, peas, broccoli, salads, etc.
water and diet soda were my main drinks. more water than soda though.
for sweets, i recommend no-carb jello. the black rasberry flavor. i would make a lot of it and eat it when i felt i needed something sweet.
i think consistency is key. i ate almost the same thing for every meal for almost every day. you dont think about it, you just do it. the more you think about it the less you will want to stay with it.
:o I'm starving on 2300 cals a day. How long did phase 3 last?
-
How's the cycle going?
::) wheres your before or after pics ::)
-
::) wheres your before or after pics ::)
Are your fingers like overcooked sausages by nature or from high bf% ?
-
Here is before and after photo of my brother.
6'2
around 275 lbs in the before pics
around 225 - 230 lbs in the after pics
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t224/SimplyHuge/BeforeandAfterPhotos-S.jpg)
Haha you are a fucking retard dude. Sorry to say you and your brother were never natural. You're saying your brother lost 45lbs of bodyweight fat, while basically pretty much maintaining all his muscle naturally? HAHAHAHAA LMAO! You must think everybody on here is a fucking newbie. Obviously everyone in this thread is a newbie except for spermatease cause I've been around this game a long fucking time and that aint happening naturally. It's insulting for you to think we are all that fucking stupid. BUt this is getbig afterall and judging by the responses in this thread there are a lot of morons on here who have no clue as to what's achievable naturally vs. using drugs. You and your "brother" may not have used anabolic steroids per se but there aint no way you are dropping 45 lbs of fat/weight without losing hardly any size on your arms or overall naturally. LMAO! The posts are hilarious. Why don't you go try to post your pics on a website where people actually BODYBUILD! Not everyone would be sucking your dick with responses because they actually know what's achievable naturally.
So to summarize SimplyHuge I want to get this straight.......you are saying your brother lost 45-50lbs of fat/weight in naturally without losing muscle? Because in both of your pics none of you guys hardly lost any size in your arms. Arm size is usually the first to go, especially naturally. Especially for guys your age.
-
By the way your brother looks like the poster boy for a heavy bulking cycle in the before pics. Bloated, red face, etc.
-
I don't know about the first guy, but I think the second guy is on something besides creatine and protein shakes...
-
I don't know about the first guy, but I think the second guy is on something besides creatine and protein shakes...
You think? It's pretty obvious. I mean just think about the numbers for a second. And look at the pics. The kid didn't lose hardly ANY size but managed to drop almost 50lbs of bodyweight? I mean shit have any of you in this thread even ever dieted for any length of time to realize how hard it is to keep muscle AND lose fat at the same time.
-
You think? It's pretty obvious. I mean just think about the numbers for a second. And look at the pics. The kid didn't lose hardly ANY size but managed to drop almost 50lbs of bodyweight? I mean shit have any of you in this thread even ever dieted for any length of time to realize how har it is to keep muscle AND lose fat at the same time.
Not to mention how young he is, I suppose that's his first attempt at dieting and no one gets it that perfect first time around.
-
You think? It's pretty obvious. I mean just think about the numbers for a second. And look at the pics. The kid didn't lose hardly ANY size but managed to drop almost 50lbs of bodyweight? I mean shit have any of you in this thread even ever dieted for any length of time to realize how hard it is to keep muscle AND lose fat at the same time.
MM, maybe this kid was on bee pollen and an occasional snort of gym chalk? He is obviously doing something that nobody else on the entire planet knows about.... ;D
-
Not to mention how young he is, I suppose that's his first attempt at dieting and no one gets it that perfect first time around.
These jokers love getbig. I mean who wouldn't. Look at everyone jumping all over this kid's jock strap. WOW! You're amazing! You've happened to achieve what takes even steroid using bodybuilders to achieve with protein powders and creatine! ::)
-
Are your fingers like overcooked sausages by nature or from high bf% ?
::) i'll take that as a no on the pics gimmick ::)
as for my fingers - ask your mom.
-
::) i'll take that as a no on the pics gimmick ::)
as for my fingers - ask your mom.
Oh snap!....panda just implied that he finger-banged monkey's mom for all you slow getbiggers out there......
-
I love how these guys use the term "lifetime" natural like they are 40 years old with 20 years of training behind them! Oh and he "could have done it much faster" but instead took 7 months to do it. It's makes it seem more believable that way.
-
Oh snap!....panda just implied that he finger-banged monkey's mom for all you slow getbiggers out there......
haha FatPand ALWAYS clamors to these morons when they say they are natural. It's like he WANTS to believe so badly, like he's finally found the truth that is going to unleash his wild physique. he's usually the first one to swallow the bullshit hook, line and sinker, without thinking about anything they say. I'm sure he's done a shit ton of dieting in his bodybuilding career to realize how easily those transformations are naturally. ::)
-
Oh snap!....panda just implied that he finger-banged monkey's mom for all you slow getbiggers out there......
I know! I'm absolutely demolished! :'(
::)
-
haha FatPand ALWAYS clamors to these morons when they say they are natural. It's like he WANTS to believe so badly, like he's finally found the truth that is going to unleash his wild physique. he's usually the first one to swallow the bullshit hook, line and sinker, without thinking about anything they say. I'm sure he's done a shit ton of dieting in his bodybuilding career to realize how easily those transformations are naturally. ::)
MMMmmm, yeah, I don't think the panda has done much dieting in his days......haha
-
MMMmmm, yeah, I don't think the panda has done much dieting in his days......haha
I can't believe what you're saying :o
-
my brother had 19" arms in his before pics
he had 17" arms in the after pics
i had 17 1/2" arms in my before pics
16 1/2 " arms in my after pics
all measurements were cold
no drugs, no "extra" help.
the world is full of people who cant achieve it for themselves (i.e. you) so they believe no one else can either.
Holy fuck you are young and dumb and must think everyone else around is as well. THERE IS NO FUCKING WAY YOUR BROTHER HAD A 19" arm in the before pic! HAHAHA! Get a new measuring tape or go back to math class!
-
Holy fuck you are young and dumb and must think everyone else around is as well. THERE IS NO FUCKING WAY YOUR BROTHER HAD A 19" arm in the before pic! HAHAHA! Get a new measuring tape or go back to math class!
MM, maybe he meant length? :-\
-
And yes, 19" arms when he was 275. Right now he is at 255 and has over 18" arms. If you need a video of proof I'm sure that can be arranged.
Uhm you do realize 275 lbs is roughly 125kg? Either your brother was a fat fuckin slob or he juiced.
-
And yes, 19" arms when he was 275. Right now he is at 255 and has over 18" arms. If you need a video of proof I'm sure that can be arranged.
So you're saying your brother at 275 lbs had a bigger arm than Bill Pearl at 222 lbs? LMAO! Sure buddy! You're "brother" doesn't look ANYTHING like Bill Pearl or a host of other "pros" that had a real 18-19" arm at a much lower bodyweight. You and your brother are either clueless or lying. Or both. LOL.
-
i posted what he looked like at 275. its the before pics. fat and big.
no drugs. choose to believe what you want. i will ask him to post a current vid of taping his arm for proof.
275lbs and you can see the outlines of his abs?? Are you fuccking kidding me?? He better be a tall fuckah!
-
haha FatPand ALWAYS clamors to these morons when they say they are natural. It's like he WANTS to believe so badly, like he's finally found the truth that is going to unleash his wild physique. he's usually the first one to swallow the bullshit hook, line and sinker, without thinking about anything they say. I'm sure he's done a shit ton of dieting in his bodybuilding career to realize how easily those transformations are naturally. ::)
??? have you ever read any of my posts ?
i am one of the most sceptical when guys here claim natural, just ask: leafy bug/love monkey, kiwiol, dov, true adonis, meso78, chris faildo, drugsfree4life, etc etc etc
oh and i never said once that i believed simply huge ::)
try to keep up.
-
Uhm you do realize 275 lbs is roughly 125kg? Either your brother was a fat fuckin slob or he juiced.
These "kids" have no fucking clue what type of measurements and bodyweight they are spitting out. Like I said Bill Pearl's largest arm, his left arm measured ~ 18 5/8 of an inch at 222lbs. And we all know how fucking big Pearl's arms looked. Google any of the top guys arm measurments. Hell even go back to the 1950's and look at the arm measurements. They were all right around 18" and 19" was considered huge. And these guys had all been training for decades. Sergio's arm measured at 20 something inches. Arnold's a little over 19" when he wasn't bloated as fuck from all the drugs.
-
leafy bug/love monkey
ROFLMAO
-
he's 6'2
275 and you have a hard time believing a 19" arm? you must be very very small.
i have over 17" arms right now at a bodyweight of 210 lbs.
Haha oh brother...........dude DO YOU HAVE ANY CLUE HOW BIG 6'2 275 ACTUALLY IS??????? He rivals most pro football players let alone pro bodybuilders. ::) Keep going.....you're just embarrassing yourself bro. You look like a young fool spitting out these claims.
-
These "kids" have no fucking clue what type of measurements and bodyweight they are spitting out. Like I said Bill Pearl's largest arm, his left arm measured ~ 18 5/8 of an inch at 222lbs. And we all know how fucking big Pearl's arms looked. Google any of the top guys arm measurments. Hell even go back to the 1950's and look at the arm measurements. They were all right around 18" and 19" was considered huge. And these guys had all been training for decades. Sergio's arm measured at 20 something inches. Arnold's a little over 19" when he wasn't bloated as fuck from all the drugs.
I blame that damn Hulk Hogan. Running around spouting off about "24 inch pythons..." Most people are delusional.
-
Haha oh brother...........dude DO YOU HAVE ANY CLUE HOW BIG 6'2 275 ACTUALLY IS??????? He rivals most pro football players let alone pro bodybuilders. ::) Keep going.....you're just embarrassing yourself bro. You look like a young fool spitting out these claims.
Not to mention that his wheels must be of pro caliber in order to claim that weight.
-
lol you guys are giving me...(simply huges's brother) way to much credit...you can beileve i took juice if you want too but beileve me when i say this, i have never felt the need to take roids to better my personal appearence because i already look good enough for my own liking...sometimes thru out the year...like right now i choose to bulk and increase my strength and do strongman and olympic lifting. I just lift as a hobby, im not gonna ruin my health for a plastic trophy or to impress some college kids in the weight room
i was 19 275 lbs at 6 feet 2 inches tall
im currently 22 and 250 lbs
ive been lifting weights with my brother since i was around 11 and he was 13...so approx 12 years of training
i was lucky enough to have learned a lot of things early about nutrition and proper training...combined with decent genetics and a lot of motivation from being the youngest of 3.
-
ive been lifting weights with my brother since i was around 11 and he was 13...so approx 12 years of training
come on....everybody knows it will stunt your growth at that age..... 8)
-
lol you guys are giving me...(simply huges's brother) way to much credit...you can beileve i took juice if you want too but beileve me when i say this, i have never felt the need to take roids to better my personal appearence because i already look good enough for my own liking...sometimes thru out the year...like right now i choose to bulk and increase my strength and do strongman and olympic lifting. I just lift as a hobby, im not gonna ruin my health for a plastic trophy or to impress some college kids in the weight room
i was 19 275 lbs at 6 feet 2 inches tall
im currently 22 and 250 lbs
ive been lifting weights with my brother since i was around 11 and he was 13...so approx 12 years of training
i was lucky enough to have learned a lot of things early about nutrition and proper training...combined with decent genetics and a lot of motivation from being the youngest of 3.
Dude there is no WAY IN HELL you were 275lbs at 19 at 6'2. LMAO! Do you realize how fucking big that is? That rivals Arnold and most pro bodybuilders. At 19? Haha keep it coming dude! I don't care what your history is, how good your genetics are, or how big you were or what your arm measurements are. There is no way in hell you go from 275lbs to 225-230 lbs NATURALLY without losing hardly any size. Like I said your "bulking" pics are the poster boy for heavy steroid cycle........bloated, red face etc. Why don't you post other pictures? All you do is keep posting the same old pictures. You obviously should have more pictures than two right? LOL.
-
lol luckily i didnt start lifting correctly until i was around 16
honostly what my brother has said is true but that pic he posted of me is a little misleading becuz my back and shoulders are pretty wide and my arms are up so it makes my waist look much smaller than it was...im pretty sure it was around 44 at the time lol and im sad to say its around 40 currently,
but as far as steroids go i have no gyno, no back acne, no crazy vascularity and the best low BF i ever achieved was 9%
my secret has always been my compulsive nature...when i want to get big...i get big...when i wanna look good i look as good as i can...years of wrestling and controlling my weight taught me disciplene that few ever really learn
Dude there is no WAY IN HELL you were 275lbs at 19 at 6'2. LMAO! Do you realize how fucking big that is? That rivals Arnold and most pro bodybuilders. At 19? Haha keep it coming dude! I don't care what your history is, how good your genetics are, or how big you were or what your arm measurements are. There is no way in hell you go from 275lbs to 225-230 lbs NATURALLY without losing hardly any size. Like I said your "bulking" pics are the poster boy for heavy steroid cycle........bloated, red face etc. Why don't you post other pictures? All you do is keep posting the same old pictures. You obviously should have more pictures than two right? LOL.
ive got tons of photos...what u wanna see my first MMA fight...strongman, highland games, boxing, lol bodybuilding...ive done it all because i love to compete...
-
Dude there is no WAY IN HELL you were 275lbs at 19 at 6'2. LMAO! Do you realize how fucking big that is? That rivals Arnold and most pro bodybuilders. At 19? Haha keep it coming dude! I don't care what your history is, how good your genetics are, or how big you were or what your arm measurements are. There is no way in hell you go from 275lbs to 225-230 lbs NATURALLY without losing hardly any size. Like I said your "bulking" pics are the poster boy for heavy steroid cycle........bloated, red face etc. Why don't you post other pictures? All you do is keep posting the same old pictures. You obviously should have more pictures than two right? LOL.
Being 275lbs natural without being morbidly obese is a bold enough claim on its own... but at 19?? LMAO!
I'm actually a few cm taller than this guy and although I may not have the best genetics I fuckin guarantee you that 275lbs (with decent muscle tone) at 19 years of age is not possible in any way, shape or form.
-
lol luckily i didnt start lifting correctly until i was around 16
honostly what my brother has said is true but that pic he posted of me is a little misleading becuz my back and shoulders are pretty wide and my arms are up so it makes my waist look much smaller than it was...im pretty sure it was around 44 at the time lol and im sad to say its around 40 currently,
but as far as steroids go i have no gyno, no back acne, no crazy vascularity and the best low BF i ever achieved was 9%
my secret has always been my compulsive nature...when i want to get big...i get big...when i wanna look good i look as good as i can...years of wrestling and controlling my weight taught me disciplene that few ever really learn
ive got tons of photos...what u wanna see my first MMA fight...strongman, highland games, boxing, lol bodybuilding...ive done it all because i love to compete...
Haha so when you magically started lifting "correctly" at 16 you managed to blow up to 275lbs at 19 at 6'2? Ok genius so what did you weight at 16 and what was your height? LMAO! Dude do you realize the numbers you are throwing out are HUGE? The progress you are talking rivals just about every bodybuilder in Arnold's era? LOL.
-
lol luckily i didnt start lifting correctly until i was around 16
honostly what my brother has said is true but that pic he posted of me is a little misleading becuz my back and shoulders are pretty wide and my arms are up so it makes my waist look much smaller than it was...im pretty sure it was around 44 at the time lol and im sad to say its around 40 currently,
but as far as steroids go i have no gyno, no back acne, no crazy vascularity and the best low BF i ever achieved was 9%
my secret has always been my compulsive nature...when i want to get big...i get big...when i wanna look good i look as good as i can...years of wrestling and controlling my weight taught me disciplene that few ever really learn
ive got tons of photos...what u wanna see my first MMA fight...strongman, highland games, boxing, lol bodybuilding...ive done it all because i love to compete...
Yeah post them up.
-
Being 275lbs natural without being morbidly obese is a bold enough claim on its own... but at 19?? LMAO!
I'm actually a few cm taller than this guy and although I may not have the best genetics I fuckin guarantee you that 275lbs (with decent muscle tone) at 19 years of age is not possible in any way, shape or form.
This guy is basically saying that at 19 his physique rivaled that of Arnold Schwarzenegger's. LOL. That's a pretty balsy statement. Let alone all the NFL guys he rivaled at 19. Plus he managed to do it all in 3 YEARS!
-
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t224/SimplyHuge/Image0201.jpg)
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t224/SimplyHuge/TakingaBreak.jpg)
So is this you or your brother?
-
no claims of being like arnold were made. there is a difference between fat 19" arms and ripped 19" arms. no claims have been made htat havent been backed up with pics. you on the other hand are just spouting your mouth like some sort of expert when in reality you are probably another internet bitch who dreams of being big.
very strong posting MM ::)
LMAO! You've havent' backed up shit. I want to see a pic of your brother at 16 and then 3 years later at 19 at 275lbs at 6'2. It's really not that fucking hard to do. POST A PIC OF HIM AT 16 and then one at 19. Let's see it!
-
like i said you are giving me too much credit ::) lol one of my best genetic abilities is that i hold fat well because im pretty wide guy and i store mine as that hard marble looking fat that doesnt look so flabby lol my bf was thru the roof at 275 lbs but im bored so ill continue to endulge you...and PS no matter how many times you say its not possible lol ive got the pics to prove it ;D
im not trying to make you look foolish here, but to be honost you are doing it too yourself...saying something cant be done is a pretty bold statement especially something so simple as gaining weight...people blow up to 1000 lbs by eating mcdonalds every day, is it so hard to beileve i put on less than a 20th of that
-
Why are you fucking that guy in the last photo?
-
like i said you are giving me too much credit ::) lol one of my best genetic abilities is that i hold fat well because im pretty wide guy and i store mine as that hard marble looking fat that doesnt look so flabby lol my bf was thru the roof at 275 lbs but im bored so ill continue to endulge you...and PS no matter how many times you say its not possible lol ive got the pics to prove it ;D
im not trying to make you look foolish here, but to be honost you are doing it too yourself...saying something cant be done is a pretty bold statement especially something so simple as gaining weight...people blow up to 1000 lbs by eating mcdonalds every day, is it so hard to beileve i put on less than a 20th of that
LMAO! Ok SO HOW BIG ARE YOU IN THOSE TWO PICS? The one of you in the skirt and the one wrestling around with the other man? Cause you look like a tiny tit in both pics. Hardly the beast you claim to be. You look a buck 80 in the skirt.
-
lol ive done all kinds of sports gained and lost weight like crazy...i was 217 in my first cage fight...was 220 in the highland games...
its not like im some 5'5 bodybuilder with ripped 19 inch arms
ive got very blocky features...poor aesthetics...but ive got decent size gaining ability....
-
LMAO! Ok SO HOW BIG ARE YOU IN THOSE TWO PICS? The one of you in the skirt and the one wrestling around with the other man? Cause you look like a tiny tit in both pics. Hardly the beast you claim to be. You look a buck 80 in the skirt.
Hhaha is this guy serious? Does he realize that at 250-275lbs he should be close to the size of a pro? In that William Wallace picture you wouldn't know that he's over 210 lbs.
-
please dont be a fool and think this all happened one after another...these pics cover around 3 years of my life...i didnt roll outta bed and loss a bunch of weight then gain it back the next
-
It quite simple really. The guy weighs himself on a broken scale.
-
I thought WJH was in T/O :-\
-
LOL you guys are right...im fine weighing whatever it is you believe me to weigh.....hope you enjoyed the pics :P
Adonis... your wit is unmatched lol
-
lol ive done all kinds of sports gained and lost weight like crazy...i was 217 in my first cage fight...was 220 in the highland games...
its not like im some 5'5 bodybuilder with ripped 19 inch armsive got very blocky features...poor aesthetics...but ive got decent size gaining ability....
DUDE YOU'RE FUCKING CLAIMING 19" arms at 275lbs at 19 years old. You're spouting out fucking numbers without giving any time of time frame. Ok so you were 275lbs at 19. So what age were you at your first cage fight at 217? How old were you at the highland games at 220?
So you can fluctuate your muscle mass upwars of 65lbs in 3 years naturally? WOW! That's pretty fucking amazing even if it is a lot of fat. LOL You're so full of shit. If you weren't full of shit you'd be able to say emphatically I was 275lbs at 19. I was 21 at my first cage fight. I was 22 at the highland games. Which if you did we'd all know you'd be lying cause then the numbers would look even more like bullshit.
-
both brothers use hormones to bulk and to cut ...and both used fatburners for cutting ...
-
LOL you guys are right...im fine weighing whatever it is you believe me to weigh.....hope you enjoyed the pics :P
Adonis... your wit is unmatched lol
Where is the pic at 16 and where is the pic at 19 weighing 275lbs? I want to see the transformation of 3 years?????????????????????? You've lost the argument so now you want to take your toys and go home crying. You just got owned kid. Maybe next time you and your brother might think twice before spewing your bullshit to who you think is a clueless audience. Go into any hardcore gym with real bodybuilders and weightlifters, not some church picnic with a barbell in the middle of a pavillion, and you'd be called out on your bullshit claims. 275lbs at 19 at 6'2. LMAO! ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
-
both brothers use hormones to bulk and to cut ...and both used fatburners for cutting ...
Maybe not in bulking but in cutting for sure yes.
-
Arnold Schwarzenegger at 225-30 lbs at 6`2 with an 18-19 inch arm. :-\
I guess "The Wall" is much larger and even natural. :-\
(http://www.arthurshall.com/images/custom_images/arnold_schwarzenegger_training.jpg)
(http://whatthehellis.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/arnold-schwarzenegger-bodybuilding-pic.jpg)
(http://www.bodybuildingdungeon.com/photopost/data/502/m94.jpg)
-
lol dude i was suuuuppperrr fat like i said i just hold it well...beileve what u want man...im done arguing about it...
i mean i can sit here all day and tell you one thing and your gonna keep on believing what you want, and thats fine with me, dont worry about it, its getbig people claim stuff on here every day that is about as likely as me lighting my farts and skyrocketting to the moon :P
at the end of the day ive competed in more events and competitions than most people ever will in terms of varibility...and to tell you the truth im not very good at any of um ;D but i enjoy competing not arguing about how much i weighed 4 years ago with strangers over the internet
im getting a phone call from nasser you gonna have to excuse me for a few minutes ;)
-
Arnold Schwarzenegger at 225-30 lbs at 6`2 with an 18-19 inch arm. :-\
I guess "The Wall" is much larger and even natural. :-\
wow are you sure?
-
Arnold Schwarzenegger at 225-30 lbs at 6`2 with an 18-19 inch arm. :-\
I guess "The Wall" is much larger and even natural. :-\
(http://www.arthurshall.com/images/custom_images/arnold_schwarzenegger_training.jpg)
(http://whatthehellis.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/arnold-schwarzenegger-bodybuilding-pic.jpg)
(http://www.bodybuildingdungeon.com/photopost/data/502/m94.jpg)
You don't even have to compare him to Arnold. Just compare him to the average NFL player who is 6' 250 lbs. He's got 25lbs and 2 inches on some of the biggest dudes in Pro football. ::) Honestly, I feel bad for the kid. He's delusional. And at such a young age. Chick can you give him a job as an IFBB spokesperson? Maybe an "athlete" rep? He can bullshit with the best of em!
-
Arnold Schwarzenegger at 225-30 lbs at 6`2 with an 18-19 inch arm. :-\
I guess "The Wall" is much larger and even natural. :-\
And this man was juiced outta his mind.
-
wow are you sure?
Arnold's heaviest competition weight was no more than 235lbs. And we can all agree he was fucking HUGE!
-
wow are you sure?
Positive. Hang around long enough and you will run into people who actually knew and trained with Arnold. This was Arnold`s weight while lean.
-
Arnold's heaviest competition weight was no more than 235lbs. And we can all agree he was fucking HUGE!
The wall disagrees at 275lbs ::)
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t224/SimplyHuge/BeforeandAfterPhotos-S.jpg)
-
Maybe not in bulking but in cutting for sure yes.
sev you are correct i took a shitload of caffiene and aspirin to help me cut alot of that weight off along with an extremely low carb diet
PS your bench vid of repping 405 was really impressive, your form looked great
-
lol dude i was suuuuppperrr fat like i said i just hold it well...beileve what u want man...im done arguing about it...
i mean i can sit here all day and tell you one thing and your gonna keep on believing what you want, and thats fine with me, dont worry about it, its getbig people claim stuff on here every day that is about as likely as me lighting my farts and skyrocketting to the moon :P
at the end of the day ive competed in more events and competitions than most people ever will in terms of varibility...and to tell you the truth im not very good at any of um ;D but i enjoy competing not arguing about how much i weighed 4 years ago with strangers over the internet
im getting a phone call from nasser you gonna have to excuse me for a few minutes ;)
Umm no you weren't "super" fat. You were super bloated. There is a huge difference.
-
we need to get this guy and "konkrete" together, the Ebony and Ivory of the genetic lottery winners. ::)
-
sev you are correct i took a shitload of caffiene and aspirin to help me cut alot of that weight off along with an extremely low carb diet
PS your bench vid of repping 405 was really impressive, your form looked great
Haha you moron......I thought you said you were completely natural? Now you admit to using "shitloads" of caffeine and aspiring? Haha dude WE HEAR THIS SHIT ALL THE TIME! First it's I use NOTHING except creatine and protein powders. Then it's......well ok I used some prohormones. I mean do you realize how much of a fool you look like dude? Pathetic!
-
I believe you dude.
Arnolds arms were much bigger than 19". Maybe 19" relaxed at his side.
6'2 is tall.
He IS carrying a lot of fat.
There are plenty of 6'2 280lbs fat people why cant a guy add muscle and add fat also.
I know myself i easily added over 30bs in my first 3 years of training with NO fat.
According to "The Wall" in his lean pics, he outweighs Arnold`s lean pics.
-
That's interesting man. Have you seen him recently? What's his condition like?
havent seen him, last i heard, was that he got arrested on a outstanding warrant that was put out before allt his publicity about him came....and the police found him because of the publicity. ;D
-
lol alright fellas you win....you owned me i never made it past 180 lbs soaking wet, i dunno what i was trying to do pulling the wool over your eyes with all that "proof"
lol i can go out on the street and find a ton of guys that weigh more than arnold...hell a bunch of guys on here weigh more than arnold...some weigh alot more, doesnt mean they LOOK bigger which is what BB is about
anyways i can see this thread upset some fellow posters.....my sincerest apologies ill go back to weighing whatever it is you say...promise ::)
as for all natural... lol i take caf, creatine, protein, multi vitamen, tons of fish oils,.....non of those products are banned by any organization including WADA...if drinking a bunch of dr pepper makes you a juicer than i am juiced to the gills :P
-
Just to put this in perspective, Magnus Samuelsson, a famous swedish strongman competitor measures in at about 200cm and weighs in at roughly 320lbs.
(http://www.realdutchpower.nl/nieuwsoverzicht2004/magnus_01.jpg)
-
LMAO! Ok SO HOW BIG ARE YOU IN THOSE TWO PICS? The one of you in the skirt and the one wrestling around with the other man? Cause you look like a tiny tit in both pics. Hardly the beast you claim to be. You look a buck 80 in the skirt.
[/quote
its not a skirt homo, its a kilt. >:(
i dare you to walk up to any scotsman competing in highland games anywhere in the world and call it a skirt. ::)
-
Bone structure and shape etc can make a large difference.
bodybuilding does not go by the scale. It goes by appearance.
235lbs can look like 260lbs in Arnold's case. Or 235lbs can look like 225lbs in The Wall's case.
Weight is just a number. He is not claiming the measurements of Arnold. Simply the weight.
I dont see why so many people get upset over this.
Muhammad Ali was 6'3 and 220lbs (or thereabouts) and looked lean but small (in BBuilding terms)
230lbs can vary ALOT
-
no matter how many pics are posted, and no matter how good a person looks, those who cant achieve it themselves will ALWAYS claim drugs.
everyone can believe what they want. no reason for me or my brother to lie. we are not spokesman for plazmosis or placebotech, so why lie? there are no signs of drug use whatsoever like crazy veins, acne, gyno, etc.
for those who want to believe what i had posted, i assure you the facts remain as true as the first time i posted them.
Your brother just admitted he used "shitloads" of caffeine and aspirin? after claiming he was "a liftetime natural" LOL. I guess he forgot to mention no one uses JUST caffeine and aspirin. Usually it's a combination of CAffeine, aspirin, AND EPHEDRINE! Ephedrine is a very powerful drug. Why the fuck would you only use caffeine and aspirin without ephedrine? LMAO!
-
Bone structure and shape etc can make a large difference.
bodybuilding does not go by the scale. It goes by appearance.
235lbs can look like 260lbs in Arnold's case. Or 235lbs can look like 225lbs in The Wall's case.
Weight is just a number. He is not claiming the measurements of Arnold. Simply the weight.
I dont see why so many people get upset over this.
Muhammad Ali was 6'3 and 220lbs (or thereabouts) and looked lean but small (in BBuilding terms)
230lbs can vary ALOT
i agree, good post.
-
Bone structure and shape etc can make a large difference.
bodybuilding does not go by the scale. It goes by appearance.
235lbs can look like 260lbs in Arnold's case. Or 235lbs can look like 225lbs in The Wall's case.
Weight is just a number. He is not claiming the measurements of Arnold. Simply the weight.
I dont see why so many people get upset over this.
Muhammad Ali was 6'3 and 220lbs (or thereabouts) and looked lean but small (in BBuilding terms)
230lbs can vary ALOT
Ali looked lean and small? ::)
-
Weight is just a number.
You should go on Oprah :D
-
Ali looked lean and small? ::)
are you joking ?
-
Ali is lean here but should a getbigger post this image and say they are 6'3 220lbs they would be made the butt of jokes and jibes.
Lean but small (In BBuilding terms I previously said you oaf)
(http://cherrycanoe.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/muhammad_ali_versus_sonny_liston.jpg)
(http://huntergatherernyc.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/muhammad_ali_01.jpg)
(http://www.preisvergleich.org/pimages/MUHAMMAD-ALI_88__F-300.305_20.jpg)
-
looking good man
-
I am sure there are some Getbiggers 6'2 or taller and over 230lbs relatively lean.
If you guys post the pictures of them you will surely see a huge degree of variation in size and shape all whilst being the same weight.
I am off to bed now. Goodnight
-
I am sure there are some Getbiggers 6'2 or taller and over 230lbs relatively lean.
If you guys post the pictures of them you will surely see a huge degree of variation in size and shape all whilst being the same weight.
I am off to bed now. Goodnight
Yeah that might be the case but not 19 years of age, ROFL.
Btw, hi mr. 7 posts gimmick.
-
I would NEVER consider Ali lean and small in his prime, the guy was 6'3!!!!!. No he wasn't big bodybuilding wise but what the fuck kind of argument is that? Ali was a big guy i.e. tall and muscular. If you saw him in his prime I hardly doubt you'd call him lean and small.
-
Yeah that might be the case but not 19 years of age, ROFL.
Btw, hi mr. 7 posts gimmick.
Yeah his only supporter in this entire thread has 7 posts? LMAO! Only on getbig. ::)
-
brutal 13 inch arms on "the Louisville Lip". ;D
-
Btw, hi mr. 7 posts gimmick.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha the irony here is hilarious.
-
brutal 13 inch arms on "the Louisville Lip". ;D
Funny thing is his 13 inch arms look twice as big as your tube socks of crisco! :)
-
there are no signs of drug use whatsoever like crazy veins, acne, gyno, etc.
How about stretch marks on your shoulders and arms
-
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha the irony here is hilarious.
You know, a thread was just posted about the "meltdown denials".
An excessive use of "hahahahahahaha" is a clear sign of meltdown.
And please, I've offered you easy money on countless occasions if you've bothered to check with Ron on my gimmick status. You won't do it, even for 500$. You have no case.
How's the cycle going?
-
These kids got their ass handed to them. Just like Andy Haman! It doesn't matter if you're a pro or a schmoe.........getbigger s be owning bitches left and right! LOL.
-
How about stretch marks on your shoulders and arms
No offense but have you ever lifted? Those things show up early on if you're seriously training, nothing to do with roids.
-
No offense but have you ever lifted? Those things show up early on if you're seriously training, nothing to do with roids.
I can attest to this, I have some savage stretch marks around my armpit area. Just recently a small one is rearing its ugly face on my left front delt.
-
Does anyone find it hilarious that at first these clowns were claiming truly natural status...........i.e. protein powders, creatine, etc. Then as the thread went along the "brother" finally admitted he used IN HIS WORDS.......a "shitload" of aspirin and caffeine? I mean did you guys miss that part? How many times have "natural" bodybuilders come on here and then after owning their asses they fessed up and said well......ok I used prohormones....ONCE! LMAO!
-
afterall Mesomoprh claimed he maintains his physique off of "oreos" and jamaican food! LMAO! ::)
-
No offense but have you ever lifted? Those things show up early on if you're seriously training, nothing to do with roids.
it happen more often in drug users than natural bodybuilders
-
You know, a thread was just posted about the "meltdown denials".
An excessive use of "hahahahahahaha" is a clear sign of meltdown.
And please, I've offered you easy money on countless occasions if you've bothered to check with Ron on my gimmick status. You won't do it, even for 500$. You have no case.
How's the cycle going?
::) post 1 pic with a sign and prove me wrong.
proxt servers are common ::)
oh and
ROFLMAO
is also a clear sign of meltdown leafy.
-
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t224/SimplyHuge/BeforeandAfterPhotos.jpg)
You live up to your nickname!
All around huge dude!
-
it happen more often in drug users than natural bodybuilders
Can you show me your source? This is a given in the early stages of training as a natural too.
-
Can you show me your source? This is a given in the early stages of training as a natural too.
Its down to the person and their skin elasticity,not steroids
-
simplyhuge i can believe is natural
his brother however...oh brother, arnold-esque back at 19...
-
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t224/SimplyHuge/BeforeandAfterPhotos.jpg)
That guy could definitely be natural. He's got a good build but he's not THAT big.
Naturally attainable.
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t224/SimplyHuge/BeforeandAfterPhotos-S.jpg)
There is no fucking way that guy is 275 in the first or 235 in the second.
245 and 220 is more like it @ 6'2".
-
Big dudes.......no doubt about it.
-
Big dudes.......no doubt about it.
keep it PG kids might be reading this.
-
keep it PG kids might be reading this.
Large people.......i'm quite sure of it.
-
they are brothers = very similar genetics, yet one of them is significantly bigger than the other hmmmmmmmm :-\
-
Can you show me your source? This is a given in the early stages of training as a natural too.
My sources are personal experience,friends and people that I know from the gym.
-
Simply Huge - Thanks for the pics and diet info. Very cool transformation,.
The Wall - great shots and accomplishments
-
These are some older photos of when I did my first show. I am about 5'9.
I tried to line them up as accurately as I could.
In the before photos I weighed about 215 lbs
In the after photos I weighed about 175-180 lbs
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t224/SimplyHuge/BeforeandAfterPhotos.jpg)
Just thought I would share. Most people have probably seen these before just not combined as shown here.
Well done. Doom approves.
-
My sources are personal experience,friends and people that I know from the gym.
Stretch marks happen to fat people a lot easier than thinner people, and he's pretty chubby in his before pics. Could have them because of that.
-
Props.
-
Great job on the transformation bro!!
You guys look great...........big props.
-
My sources are personal experience,friends and people that I know from the gym.
x2, naturals.
-
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t224/SimplyHuge/BeforeandAfterPhotos.jpg)
I think you're a tool.. and you look great in your after shots :)
-
x2, naturals.
friend,,this is just you rpost i chose to quote but this whole redicoulous thread need to be erased or put under astrec so it can be learnt,,
i wil lay here excatly what the 2 fellas used
the litlte fella the 5'9 180lb and his brother the bigger fella somewhere between 2003-2007 bought fina pellets and were members of a board called getfina.com ,,thats where they learned how to home cook fina which is a very easy process done by most naturals,,
it is pennies and kits were sold all over the internet,,still do by fellons like will grant etc etc ,,took him as example since he is on the main land usa,,,
now,,the fina pellets who were purchaseed perfectkly leagal are the strongest hormone exist ,,they will hardly bloat you when cutting yet maintain and even increase your lean uscle tissue while dieting,,the 5'9 fella used it mainly during cutting,,with eca/clen and while bulking he mainly used pro hormones but due to the catastrophic diet yu ocant tell due to accesive amount of fat held on the body but still rest assured pro hormones were there while bulking for short fella and ofcourse the tren ace and eca/clen during cutting,,the short fella has the face of a tren ace user that just afraid to chizeled down since he knows he doesnt have enough muscle mass to be chizeled and still look decent in bodybuilding terms,,
now the big fella,,
the big fella is a more complicated stoiry ,,both live in wv usa? wv usa the whole region of virgina and wv is a known ug operation and fina heaven,,,the bigger fella used dianabol and testosterone as a base,,he is hormonized not heavy hormonized but hormonized,,he cut also on tren ace made of fina and eca/clen
as i said before every inch = 7 pounds
both fellas are and should be considered absolit liars WITH GOOD BUILT!
gh15 approved
-
friend,,this is just you rpost i chose to quote but this whole redicoulous thread need to be erased or put under astrec so it can be learnt,,
i wil lay here excatly what the 2 fellas used
the litlte fella the 5'9 180lb and his brother the bigger fella somewhere between 2003-2007 bought fina pellets and were members of a board called getfina.com ,,thats where they learned how to home cook fina which is a very easy process done by most naturals,,
it is pennies and kits were sold all over the internet,,still do by fellons like will grant etc etc ,,took him as example since he is on the main land usa,,,
now,,the fina pellets who were purchaseed perfectkly leagal are the strongest hormone exist ,,they will hardly bloat you when cutting yet maintain and even increase your lean uscle tissue while dieting,,the 5'9 fella used it mainly during cutting,,with eca/clen and while bulking he mainly used pro hormones but due to the catastrophic diet yu ocant tell due to accesive amount of fat held on the body but still rest assured pro hormones were there while bulking for short fella and ofcourse the tren ace and eca/clen during cutting,,the short fella has the face of a tren ace user that just afraid to chizeled down since he knows he doesnt have enough muscle mass to be chizeled and still look decent in bodybuilding terms,,
now the big fella,,
the big fella is a more complicated stoiry ,,both live in wv usa? wv usa the whole region of virgina and wv is a known ug operation and fina heaven,,,the bigger fella used dianabol and testosterone as a base,,he is hormonized not heavy hormonized but hormonized,,he cut also on tren ace made of fina and eca/clen
as i said before every inch = 7 pounds
both fellas are and should be considered absolit liars WITH GOOD BUILT!
gh15 approved
so.. what about those steroids? I could use some.
-
so.. what about those steroids? I could use some.
you dotn need gh15 help,,from what i saw here you pretty much shoudl be the new mod on steroid board insted of that corrupted one,,i like yo knowledge because its not based on books its hands on ,,dont think i dont pay attention when i on here
-
you dotn need gh15 help,,from what i saw here you pretty much shoudl be the new mod on steroid board insted of that corrupted one,,i like yo knowledge because its not based on books its hands on ,,dont think i dont pay attention when i on here
yes.. everything I ever post about is from my own life experience. but I would still appreciate a hook up :)
-
LARGE PEOPLE, SKINNY NECKS. YOU NEED TO LEARN THE JEFF KING TRAINING PRINCIPLES.
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/jeffking5.jpg)
-
Stretch marks happen to fat people a lot easier than thinner people, and he's pretty chubby in his before pics. Could have them because of that.
Fat people usually get stretch marks where they gain fat at most, i.e. midsection, legs. I have never seen amyone get stretch marks from gaining fat on their delts/chest tie-in. I have some small stretch marks on my sides from being overweight in my early teens and I also got small stretch marks naturally the first year i trained under my arm pits (very small though, not too noticable). First time i cycled, these stretch marks grew and turned brighter red, like in simplyhuge's pics as my skin was actively stretching. It also happened to my brother after his first cycle. You guys aren't fooling anyone ::)....
-
Pregnant women get stretch marks.
::)
Are you saying that at one point in your life your shoulders were this big ,Simplyhuge?
-
Did my shoulders have stretch marks like that? .
Yes
-
I just dont get it, whats the problem with strechmarks? I have them too in my shoulders.
-
you are clearly delusional or blind, and have no clue what stretch marks have to do with.
What's your routine like?
-
ITT:
a bunch of insecure #### who can't deal with people who have better genetics/training/motivation than them.. im happy to deal with it, these brothers are large and fucking ripped when they want to be, not to mention strong
is it so bad to want to aspire to such at thing without being called a 'guy' or some shit? fucking get a hold of yourselves bitches.
EDIT: 4000th post nigg3rs... a fair bit of catching up i need to do it seems. :-\
-
Fat people usually get stretch marks where they gain fat at most, i.e. midsection, legs. I have never seen amyone get stretch marks from gaining fat on their delts/chest tie-in. I have some small stretch marks on my sides from being overweight in my early teens and I also got small stretch marks naturally the first year i trained under my arm pits (very small though, not too noticable). First time i cycled, these stretch marks grew and turned brighter red, like in simplyhuge's pics as my skin was actively stretching. It also happened to my brother after his first cycle. You guys aren't fooling anyone ::)....
You get stretchmarks when the underlying muscle grows at a rate faster than the skin above it can expand, to accommodate the growth. Most people who lift weights with enough intensity and grow at a decent rate develop them, regardless of whether they juice or not. You can't use stretchmarks as an indicator to judge a person's natural status.
-
You get stretchmarks when the underlying muscle grows at a rate faster than the skin above it can expand, to accommodate the growth. Most people who lift weights with enough intensity and grow at a decent rate develop them, regardless of whether they juice or not. You can't use stretchmarks as an indicator to judge a person's natural status.
exactly!
-
You get stretchmarks when the underlying muscle grows at a rate faster than the skin above it can expand, to accommodate the growth. Most people who lift weights with enough intensity and grow at a decent rate develop them, regardless of whether they juice or not. You can't use stretchmarks as an indicator to judge a person's natural status.
True as always. Just to add though, from what I understand certain hormone levels and a vitamin/mineral I can't remember the name of can make you more or less prone to getting stretch marks. So it's just not the size alone.
-
True as always. Just to add though, from what I understand certain hormone levels and a vitamin/mineral I can't remember the name of can make you more or less prone to getting stretch marks. So it's just not the size alone.
collagen ;)
-
collagen ;)
See it's possible to be friends! Or at least pretend to ::)
-
from what I understand certain hormone levels and a vitamin/mineral I can't remember the name of can make you more or less prone to getting stretch marks. So it's just not the size alone.
I just get the feeling you've never lifted; that stuff about vitamins and minerals helping the marks is BS other than helping them move product.
Hope this helps.
-
friend,,this is just you rpost i chose to quote but this whole redicoulous thread need to be erased or put under astrec so it can be learnt,,
i wil lay here excatly what the 2 fellas used
the litlte fella the 5'9 180lb and his brother the bigger fella somewhere between 2003-2007 bought fina pellets and were members of a board called getfina.com ,,thats where they learned how to home cook fina which is a very easy process done by most naturals,,
it is pennies and kits were sold all over the internet,,still do by fellons like will grant etc etc ,,took him as example since he is on the main land usa,,,
now,,the fina pellets who were purchaseed perfectkly leagal are the strongest hormone exist ,,they will hardly bloat you when cutting yet maintain and even increase your lean uscle tissue while dieting,,the 5'9 fella used it mainly during cutting,,with eca/clen and while bulking he mainly used pro hormones but due to the catastrophic diet yu ocant tell due to accesive amount of fat held on the body but still rest assured pro hormones were there while bulking for short fella and ofcourse the tren ace and eca/clen during cutting,,the short fella has the face of a tren ace user that just afraid to chizeled down since he knows he doesnt have enough muscle mass to be chizeled and still look decent in bodybuilding terms,,
now the big fella,,
the big fella is a more complicated stoiry ,,both live in wv usa? wv usa the whole region of virgina and wv is a known ug operation and fina heaven,,,the bigger fella used dianabol and testosterone as a base,,he is hormonized not heavy hormonized but hormonized,,he cut also on tren ace made of fina and eca/clen
as i said before every inch = 7 pounds
both fellas are and should be considered absolit liars WITH GOOD BUILT!
gh15 approved
THANK YOU .....
I SPOTTED THEM BOTH, CLEAR AS DAYLIGHT
I CALLED IT
AS I SAID .... BESIDES EXPERIENCE, I LEARNED FROM THE BEST ;)
-
You get stretchmarks when the underlying muscle grows at a rate faster than the skin above it can expand, to accommodate the growth. Most people who lift weights with enough intensity and grow at a decent rate develop them, regardless of whether they juice or not. You can't use stretchmarks as an indicator to judge a person's natural status.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying ,that guy uses steroids because he has stretch marks ,all I'm saying is that stretch marks are more common in juicers than natural bodybuilders.
-
I just get the feeling you've never lifted; that stuff about vitamins and minerals helping the marks is BS other than helping them move product.
Hope this helps.
Yes I do lift and have been doing so for 4 years. I've gained close to 40 lbs, mostly muscles so I know what stretch marks are like alright?
On that vitamin thing, you could very well be correct as my memory betrays me sometimes. But I was implying that the "vitamin" could help prevent getting stretch marks, not getting rid of the existing ones.
-
you can get stretch marks pretty much everywhere.
I get mine predominately around my shoulder/chest tie-in because thats the area that gets hits the most when i bench press. I get them quite a bit around my inner thighs as well when im squatting pretty consistently. ive had them running down my arms before as well.
my brother had them on his forearms once, which is rare, but he was gaining weight very fast at the time b/c of how much he was eating.
it doesnt have to be muscle gain that causes the stretch marks, its any sort of size gain (fat, muscle, swelling) that can cause the stretch marks to appear. I personally dont like getting htem b/c they look bad and eventually turn white like scars.
gaining weight slowly will help prevent them.
Do you agree that stretch marks are more common in juicers than natural bodybuilders ?
-
Do you agree that stretch marks are more common in juicers than natural bodybuilders ?
Not necessarily, but one thing I've noticed though is that juicers tend to get at more odd places like at the side delt or forearms. Areas which naturals struggle to develop.
-
friend,,this is just you rpost i chose to quote but this whole redicoulous thread need to be erased or put under astrec so it can be learnt,,
i wil lay here excatly what the 2 fellas used
the litlte fella the 5'9 180lb and his brother the bigger fella somewhere between 2003-2007 bought fina pellets and were members of a board called getfina.com ,,thats where they learned how to home cook fina which is a very easy process done by most naturals,,
it is pennies and kits were sold all over the internet,,still do by fellons like will grant etc etc ,,took him as example since he is on the main land usa,,,
now,,the fina pellets who were purchaseed perfectkly leagal are the strongest hormone exist ,,they will hardly bloat you when cutting yet maintain and even increase your lean uscle tissue while dieting,,the 5'9 fella used it mainly during cutting,,with eca/clen and while bulking he mainly used pro hormones but due to the catastrophic diet yu ocant tell due to accesive amount of fat held on the body but still rest assured pro hormones were there while bulking for short fella and ofcourse the tren ace and eca/clen during cutting,,the short fella has the face of a tren ace user that just afraid to chizeled down since he knows he doesnt have enough muscle mass to be chizeled and still look decent in bodybuilding terms,,
now the big fella,,
the big fella is a more complicated stoiry ,,both live in wv usa? wv usa the whole region of virgina and wv is a known ug operation and fina heaven,,,the bigger fella used dianabol and testosterone as a base,,he is hormonized not heavy hormonized but hormonized,,he cut also on tren ace made of fina and eca/clen
as i said before every inch = 7 pounds
both fellas are and should be considered absolit liars WITH GOOD BUILT!
gh15 approved
MASSIVE ownage
-
. . .and you are?
Some skinny teen age geek
-
JUICED OR NATTY,JUST ABOUT ANYONE WHO TRAINS HARD GETS STRETCH MARKS...........GEEZUS!! :)
Usually occurs early on in your traini ng "career".
-
JUICED OR NATTY,JUST ABOUT ANYONE WHO TRAINS HARD GETS STRETCH MARKS...........GEEZUS!! :)
Usually occurs early on in your traini ng "career".
::)
-
::)
Getting stretchmarks = quite common among natural trainers.
-
::)
It's killing our pasty white tennis player that simplyhuge in just a few months drug-free already trumps most of if not all of seve's recycled attention-whore drug addicted shots. ;D
-
::)
X 2
-
Getting stretchmarks = quite common among natural trainers.
I gotz them too.
-
I gotz them too.
Same here (growing Debusseys arms from 8 - 9 inches blew that fucking skin, dammit) >:(
-
Same here (growing Debusseys arms from 8 - 9 inches blew that fucking skin, dammit) >:(
PED
-
PED
PED?
-
PED?
performance enhancing drugs
-
performance enhancing drugs
yes, what's your cycle debussey?
-
yes, what's your cycle debussey?
cycle? ;) year round baby, year round
-
yes, what's your cycle debussey?
Injured now, so no training or drugs >:(
Usually: 750 mg testo cyp, 500 mg deca and some D-bol for kickoffs + lots of sperm in the syringes. Debusseys arms grew from 8 - 9 inches that way.
-
Injured now, so no training or drugs >:(
Usually: 750 mg testo cyp, 500 mg deca and some D-bol for kickoffs + lots of sperm in the syringes. Debusseys arms grew from 8 - 9 inches that way.
you would be a cool guy to drink a few beers with
-
you would be a cool guy to drink a few beers with
The people in the mental asylum said: No more alcohol for you. >:(
-
The people in the mental asylum said: No more alcohol for you. >:(
what about funny cigs ;D
-
what about funny cigs ;D
Perhaps. But hallusinogens = Debussey approved :D
-
Haha you are a fucking retard dude. Sorry to say you and your brother were never natural. You're saying your brother lost 45lbs of bodyweight fat, while basically pretty much maintaining all his muscle naturally? HAHAHAHAA LMAO! You must think everybody on here is a fucking newbie. Obviously everyone in this thread is a newbie except for spermatease cause I've been around this game a long fucking time and that aint happening naturally. It's insulting for you to think we are all that fucking stupid. BUt this is getbig afterall and judging by the responses in this thread there are a lot of morons on here who have no clue as to what's achievable naturally vs. using drugs. You and your "brother" may not have used anabolic steroids per se but there aint no way you are dropping 45 lbs of fat/weight without losing hardly any size on your arms or overall naturally. LMAO! The posts are hilarious. Why don't you go try to post your pics on a website where people actually BODYBUILD! Not everyone would be sucking your dick with responses because they actually know what's achievable naturally.
So to summarize SimplyHuge I want to get this straight.......you are saying your brother lost 45-50lbs of fat/weight in naturally without losing muscle? Because in both of your pics none of you guys hardly lost any size in your arms. Arm size is usually the first to go, especially naturally. Especially for guys your age.
MM your post is right on the money as usual. I have seen guys drugged up beyond belief go out of their way to declare that they are lifetime naturals. I guess its an easy way to put an end to all steroid questions from people that you come in contact with.
-
MM your post is right on the money as usual. I have seen guys drugged up beyond belief go out of their way to declare that they are lifetime naturals. I guess its an easy way to put an end to all steroid questions from people that you come in contact with.
Yeah and that post was BEFORE his brother finally admitted he used "shitloads" of aspirin and caffeine. It's the same old song with these naturals. They're all a bunch of liars.
-
These are some older photos of when I did my first show. I am about 5'9.
I tried to line them up as accurately as I could.
In the before photos I weighed about 215 lbs
In the after photos I weighed about 175-180 lbs
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t224/SimplyHuge/BeforeandAfterPhotos.jpg)
Just thought I would share. Most people have probably seen these before just not combined as shown here.
Awesome mate , you look great
-
Ok then. Thanks.
-
ive been around this board a while, but ive never even heard of some of the stuff you mentioned. ZERO drugs were used.
Get OVER it. You just refuse to believe that anyone could be working harder and smarter than you, and getting results b/c of it. How arrogant to think that you are the standard, and that if anyone is better, then they take drugs. There are other naturals that are much better than myself or my brother. Jrod is a great example. How do I know he's natural? I dont, but I think its very conceivable. He trains super hard, his diet is impecable. He is smart about his training, etc. He works 100x harder than most bb's and gets results b/c of it. he hasnt made any crazy gains each year, maybe 5-10 lbs a year, and sometimes no weight difference at his shows.
nice rant.. but I've never accused you of using steroids.
-
i cant believe this thread is still going...who gives a shit...if you wanna believe it fine...if you think we are full of shit lol well thats fine too, but honostly trying to judge if someone is natural or not, or how much they weigh over the internet is retarded...we have no signs of juice have been training for 10+ years, and most importantly of all we have told you that no steroids were used...that being said u would have to be a fool to think you can "tell" from pure speculation the status of someones training
the hard work of many is degraded by the ignorant remarks of a few "squellers" who just dont wanna believe that you can get big or lean naturally...emphasis on OR in that last sentence because doing both is pretty tough
this board is full of mystery experts lol little boys with no faces who fire insults and false truths at the top of their tiny tit voices just to get someone to listen...the truth is, no one cares
if jay cutler got on here and said he was natural, sure i wouldnt beileve him but im not gonna spend 100 posts trying to convince him lol
-
275lbs is big for a natty......some doubt about it.
-
it was meant for gh15. i grabbed the wrong quote. my bad james001
no problem.. people tend to get grabby when I'm around :)
-
Definately achievable naturally. I have seen way more impressive physiques, natural. Some of the people on here see a bit of muscle and/or a person who is not fat thinking "its not natural". Makes you wonder what kind of shape the average GetBigger is....
-
Definately achievable naturally. I have seen way more impressive physiques, natural. Some of the people on here see a bit of muscle and/or a person who is not fat thinking "its not natural". Makes you wonder what kind of shape the average GetBigger is....
Really, at 19 years old? Post em if you've got em.
-
i cant believe this thread is still going...who gives a shit...if you wanna believe it fine...if you think we are full of shit lol well thats fine too, but honostly trying to judge if someone is natural or not, or how much they weigh over the internet is retarded...we have no signs of juice have been training for 10+ years, and most importantly of all we have told you that no steroids were used...that being said u would have to be a fool to think you can "tell" from pure speculation the status of someones training
the hard work of many is degraded by the ignorant remarks of a few "squellers" who just dont wanna believe that you can get big or lean naturally...emphasis on OR in that last sentence because doing both is pretty tough
this board is full of mystery experts lol little boys with no faces who fire insults and false truths at the top of their tiny tit voices just to get someone to listen...the truth is, no one cares
if jay cutler got on here and said he was natural, sure i wouldnt beileve him but im not gonna spend 100 posts trying to convince him lol
Dude you're full of shit. First off you admitted to using IN YOUR WORDS "shitloads" of aspirin and caffeine. That's NOT natural in my opinion. And who the fuck uses aspirin and caffeine? Usually it's aspirin, caffeine, AND EPHEDRINE i.e. ECA stack. Secondly, you said you didn't start training CORRECTLY until age 16. So you have not been training for 10+ years. THIRDLY AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, YES YOU DO HAVE SIGNS OF JUICE......you look like a bloated sausage with a red face in your "bulking" pics. Anyone who's ever done a cycle KNOWS what being bloated from steroids looks like. Bottomline is you DO NOT go from 275lbs to 222-230lbs NATURALLY without losing much muscle like you did in your pictures, even in 7 months.
-
Definately achievable naturally. I have seen way more impressive physiques, natural. Some of the people on here see a bit of muscle and/or a person who is not fat thinking "its not natural". Makes you wonder what kind of shape the average GetBigger is....
So you're saying it's "Definitely achievable naturally" to drop 45lbs without losing hardly any muscle? HAHA You're a fucking idiot. And if you think there are so many 6'2 275lb 19 year olds walking around again you're a fucking retard!
-
musclemcmannus still desparately trying to believe its still not possible
exactly my point. i thought the pics looked good, but there are much much better that ive seen around. amazing how little they think is achievable.
275 lbs is just a weight, its not a ripped weight. i know guys who weighed 275 LBS in HIGHSCHOOL. its not all muscle, its a lot of fat, but no one claimed my brother was ripped at 275, it was just how heavy he was in the before pics. even in the after pics he is not "ripped", he is just at a low body fat.
musclemcmmannus tries to compare to arnold?! no claims were made, and there is a large difference between 235 lbs in a lean condition and 235 lbs in super ripped condition. also where the muscle is placed makes large difference as well. for instance if one guy weighs 210 and another 211, but that extra pound is in his arms, i imagine you would see quite adifference in the two physiques.
Are you a fucking dumbshit? Why don't you argue the points? The point that your brother ADMITTED to using IN HIS WORDS shitloads of caffeine/aspirin. Also I don't care what your brother weighed. It's IMPOSSIBLE to go from a bloated 275lbs to a natural 222-230lbs without losing any muscle. Here's the typical argument of a person claiming he's natural when he's not..
Statement #1: My before and after pics......lifetime natural.
Skeptic: You don't look natural.
Statement: Yes I am.....I did it using this, training this way, this long blah blah blah.
Skeptic: You don't look natural.
Statement: Yes I am. blah blah blah blah.
Skeptic:: You don't look natural.
Statement: Ok well I did use these (usually some sort of prohormone, ECA etc.)
Skeptic: You're not natural.
Statement: WHAT? FUCK YOU! You're just jealous!!!! Let's see your pic! I'm not THAT big! and every other excuse they can think of to completely downplay their physique.
It's the same old shit in EVERY thread where guys who obviously aren't natural claim they are. EVERY thread ends up the same way.
-
Watch before long this thread will go another 10 pages arguing about what's natural and what isn't. I though you two were done with this argument anyways???????? LMAO! If you two KNOW you are natural just tell everyone else to fuck off and leave the thread. Why do you constantly have to prove to us, who are just a bunch of know nothing skinny twink wannabe internet bodybuilders how big and natural you are? I don't get it! ::)
-
Are you a fucking dumbshit? Why don't you argue the points? The point that your brother ADMITTED to using IN HIS WORDS shitloads of caffeine/aspirin. Also I don't care what your brother weighed. It's IMPOSSIBLE to go from a bloated 275lbs to a natural 222-230lbs without losing any muscle. Here's the typical argument of a person claiming he's natural when he's not..
Statement #1: My before and after pics......lifetime natural.
Skeptic: You don't look natural.
Statement: Yes I am.....I did it using this, training this way, this long blah blah blah.
Skeptic: You don't look natural.
Statement: Yes I am. blah blah blah blah.
Skeptic:: You don't look natural.
Statement: Ok well I did use these (usually some sort of prohormone, ECA etc.)
Skeptic: You're not natural.
Statement: WHAT? FUCK YOU! You're just jealous!!!! Let's see your pic! I'm not THAT big! and every other excuse they can think of to completely downplay their physique.
It's the same old shit in EVERY thread where guys who obviously aren't natural claim they are. EVERY thread ends up the same way.
MM, you also have to add the dumbshits who always chime in backing them up because "dang it, if I train hard enough, I can achieve that without juice!"
-
MM, you also have to add the dumbshits who always chime in backing them up because "dang it, if I train hard enough, I can achieve that without juice!"
Hahaha, kyomu just claimed that he can possibly be bigger than Phil Heath all natural, it's just a matter of determination. ::)
-
MM, you also have to add the dumbshits who always chime in backing them up because "dang it, if I train hard enough, I can achieve that without juice!"
Yeah.......you just have to believe! LOL.
-
Hahaha, kyomu just claimed that he can possibly be bigger than Phil Heat all natural, it's just a matter of determination. ::)
Oh brother. It's such a vicious cycle too, because the gasers who claim to be natural just feed them. Then it turns to, "Well, just because you don't look that good, doesn't mean I can't....I train harder, I diet more strictly, etc...." or the pros who weigh in with the "you would be surprised at how little they use...the avg meathead uses more...." as they develop heart conditions, kidney failure/ibuprofen od, lock up on stage.....etc...
-
Here's the bottomline, VERY few people train naturally nowadays who have any admirable level of development. WHY? Because it takes a shitload of hardwork, dedication and TIME to achieve that level of development naturally. Aint no way in hell some 22 year old is going to achieve all that when it takes most guys, even with good genetics 10+ years to achieve. Look at HOW MANY steroid interent bodybuilding forums there are these days. There are a SHITLOAD of guys using steroids. Some are true bodybuilders and some are weekend warriors so to speak. Those of us who call bullshit on guys like this have seen the same song and dance on the internet and in the gyms. A young kid jumps on a cycle and then downplays everything and BOOM he's got gawkers galore and his ego jumps through the roof. I mean most bodybuilders are narcissists as it is.
-
Getbig = never boring.
-
nothing will convice you musclemcmannus, or your small friends who support your cause.
keep on trying to hopelessly prove it. nothing changes truth.
So why don't you speak to my point? Your brother confessed he used "shitloads" of caffeine and aspirin? And you STILL claim he is natural? If he used that what makes us think he wouldn't use anything else like prohormones or steroids? You've had your ass handed to you in this thread.
-
Its amazing how some of these guys can sit on there computer behind their keyboards and decide .. because that guys looks good he cant be natural.... no evidence no proof
if the guy looked like shit then yeah it would be cool he's nautural.... emotional bitch jealousy
just pure envy and jealousy.
sad
-
Its amazing how some of these guys can sit on there computer behind their keyboards and decide .. because that guys looks good he cant be natural.... no evidence no proof
if the guy looked like shit then yeah it would be cool he's nautural.... emotional bitch jealousy
just pure envy and jealousy.
sad
Haha you're a fool. So is caffeine and aspirin in "shitload" amounts natural? What is a natural in your opinion mesomorph? You're saying it's possible to drop 45lbs in 6 months naturally without losing hardly any muscle? ::) Don't you eat oreos and live off jamaican food without doing hardly any cardio as well? You guys are truly supermen! LMAO!
-
natural is drug free....
why make reference to Jamaican food.... is that supposed to be amusing....I'm Jamaican and i eat Jamaican food and?
... face it your not into lifting.. your a gimmick... all you post about is what an individual cant do... or who is on drugs on isn't on drugs... where is your picture.. what have you ..contributed..who have you inspired....
total loser... I'm surprised you haven't brought out your other gimmick pal sweetmuscles yet
-
MM lol youre so cute, still acting like a tough guy with no photo to warrent any kind of credibility...i look pretty good therefore i must be on sauce, thats your only argument lol
saying i juice because i use some caffiene and aspirin to reduce inflamation and help keep me going thru my workouts due to an extreme low carb diet is absolute lunacy, any business man who drinks coffee with his breakfast is doing the same thing lol trying to "wake" up lol you ever take some Tylenol YOURE A JUICER lol dude your arguments are the only thing weaker than your lifts
the difference bt the two of us is that you are always going to look like a steaming pile of dog shit cuz u dont have the fuckin nut sack to go to the gym and train, look how much time youve already wasted trying to make yourself feel better by knockin me and my brother lol epic waste of time
let me know when your butthole is sufficently healed so i can rape you again :-*
-
when did using caffeine and aspirin make you not natural? Seriously, are there studies that show these two products actually constitute as muscle builders?
-
let me know when your butthole is sufficently healed so i can rape you again :-*
This sounds hot. Please bring a video camera.
-
natural is drug free....
caffeine and aspirin are drugs..... ::)
-
So is Advil. Case: Tom Prince ::)
-
So is Advil. Case: Tom Prince ::)
haha yes CJ, it was clearly the ibuprofen that did the damage to him... Advil is a helluva drug!
-
Here's the bottomline, VERY few people train naturally nowadays who have any admirable level of development. WHY? Because it takes a shitload of hardwork, dedication and TIME to achieve that level of development naturally. Aint no way in hell some 22 year old is going to achieve all that when it takes most guys, even with good genetics 10+ years to achieve. Look at HOW MANY steroid interent bodybuilding forums there are these days. There are a SHITLOAD of guys using steroids. Some are true bodybuilders and some are weekend warriors so to speak. Those of us who call bullshit on guys like this have seen the same song and dance on the internet and in the gyms. A young kid jumps on a cycle and then downplays everything and BOOM he's got gawkers galore and his ego jumps through the roof. I mean most bodybuilders are narcissists as it is.
You're a fool.
225-230, 9-10% bf @ 6'2" is NOT huge.
Do you even work out?
-
You're a fool.
225-230, 9-10% bf @ 6'2" is NOT huge.
Do you even work out?
oh brother... suddenly arnold is small :-\
-
oh brother... suddenly arnold is small :-\
Haha I love these clowns.
-
oh brother... suddenly arnold is small :-\
Never suggested it was small. But 225 at 6'2" (or 180 at 5'9" which proportionately is similar) is not difficult to achieve, going to the gym, 3-5 days per week, and consuming good nutrition. Both brothers look good, I'm just disturbed by the amount of people that genuinely believe that it's impossible to look the way they do WITHOUT steroids.
So, so sad. Seriously.
I'm curious how many of the naysayers are actually serious lifters.
-
Its amazing how some of these guys can sit on there computer behind their keyboards and decide .. because that guys looks good he cant be natural.... no evidence no proof
if the guy looked like shit then yeah it would be cool he's nautural.... emotional bitch jealousy
just pure envy and jealousy.
sad
Meso..this guy dropped 40lbs and gained muscle at the same time..not even Clark Kent can do that naturally
Here is before and after photo of my brother.
6'2
around 275 lbs in the before pics
around 225 - 230 lbs in the after pics
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t224/SimplyHuge/BeforeandAfterPhotos-S.jpg)
-
Never suggested it was small. But 225 at 6'2" (or 180 at 5'9" which proportionately is similar) is not difficult to achieve, going to the gym, 3-5 days per week, and consuming good nutrition. Both brothers look good, I'm just disturbed by the amount of people that genuinely believe that it's impossible to look the way they do WITHOUT steroids.
So, so sad. Seriously.
I'm curious how many of the naysayers are actually serious lifters.
hahahahha shut the fuck up you clown!
Arnold was 6'2, 225, why don't you ask him if he worked out?
now go back to sipping on your cup of semen and enjoying it with dried up dung crackers you fagggot!
(http://yoursuperbody.com/images/arnold-schwarzenegger-bodybuilding-pic.jpg)
-
Never suggested it was small. But 225 at 6'2" (or 180 at 5'9" which proportionately is similar) is not difficult to achieve, going to the gym, 3-5 days per week, and consuming good nutrition. Both brothers look good, I'm just disturbed by the amount of people that genuinely believe that it's impossible to look the way they do WITHOUT steroids.
So, so sad. Seriously.
I'm curious how many of the naysayers are actually serious lifters.
that's arnolds numbers and it certainly isn't easily achieved even with drugs, if we are talking about being really lean at that weight.
and arnold 6'1 230-240 would be more like 200-210 on a 5'9 frame.
now if the wall really is 230 is another thing, from the front he is far from looking like arnold, the back however is DAMN good and that's what makes me doubt him being natural.
-
hahahahha shut the fuck up you clown!
Arnold was 6'2, 225, why don't you ask him if he worked out?
now go back to sipping on your cup of semen and enjoying it with dried up dung crackers you fagggot!
(http://yoursuperbody.com/images/arnold-schwarzenegger-bodybuilding-pic.jpg)
You're WAY too preocupied with numbers. I could post a picture of a number of heavyweight boxers for example, of a similar height to Arnold, and of a similar weight, and they will LOOK nowhere near as big.
Bodybuilding is about how you LOOK, not how much you weigh.
A 6'2" big boned guy, with a wide waist, is not HUGE at 225. It's ridiculous to post a pic of Arnold at the same height and weight to prove a point.
-
caffeine and aspirin are drugs..... ::)
If caffeine makes me anabolic then I should be dwarfing prime-time Ronnie.
-
You're WAY too preocupied with numbers. I could post a picture of a number of heavyweight boxers for example, of a similar height to Arnold, and of a similar weight, and they will LOOK nowhere near as big.
Bodybuilding is about how you LOOK, not how much you weigh.
A 6'2" big boned guy, with a wide waist, is not HUGE at 225. It's ridiculous to post a pic of Arnold at the same height and weight to prove a point.
how about this..... how about you go wrap your lips around a black cock and start sucking on it? :D
-
Exactly.
Muhammad Ali at 6'3 and 220lbs looked small IMO. Not big at all.
He claimed the same weight as Arnold...NOT the same measurements.
Whole world of difference.
-
Exactly.
Muhammad Ali at 6'3 and 220lbs looked small IMO. Not big at all.
He claimed the same weight as Arnold...NOT the same measurements.
Whole world of difference.
kind of sad that the two 'brothers' had to create gimmicks to defend their natural status lol
-
If caffeine makes me anabolic then I should be dwarfing prime-time Ronnie.
as much coffee as I drink, Chris Cormeir would look like Usain Bolt compared to me
-
Exactly.
Muhammad Ali at 6'3 and 220lbs looked small IMO. Not big at all.
He claimed the same weight as Arnold...NOT the same measurements.
Whole world of difference.
are you saying 'the wall' is looking small ?
-
I am saying weight is just a number.
225 @ 6'2 can look huge. Or 225 @ 6'2 can look average
you're right, i changed my mind. i believe he is natural
-
You're a fool.
225-230, 9-10% bf @ 6'2" is NOT huge.
Do you even work out?
Have you ever used steroids? Probably not you stupid fuck. Ive trained naturally and have used steroids. So shut the fuck up.
-
Have you ever used steroids? Probably not you stupid fuck. Ive trained naturally and have used steroids. So shut the fuck up.
What is you point of contention?
Whether you've used steroids or not is completely irrelevant. It doesn't make your view that Wall and SH have juiced any more valid.
Hope this helps.
-
What is you point of contention?
Whether you've used steroids or not is completely irrelevant. It doesn't make your view that Wall and SH have juiced any more valid.
Hope this helps.
Answer the question dipshit? Have you ever used steroids?
-
Answer the question dipshit? Have you ever used steroids?
Let's stick to the point...
You're saying The Wall cannot look like he does without juicing.
I'm saying that he can.
Whether I've juiced or not bears no relevance to anything whatsoever.
(To answer your question - no I haven't taken steroids)
I'm guessing you looked like shit, took steroids and looked a slightly bigger version of shit?
In your world, anyone who achieves a better physique than your own is automatically on steroids?
LOSER!! ::)
-
friends,,i took the time to read this thread and the posts on it since i last posted here,,first and formost,,musclemcmanus there is no need for you to humilate those fellas,,every one on this board is a bodybuilders and knows what it takes to get there,,so gh15 understands you shout this for the new generation of young kids who comes on getbig but still those kids read gh15 like bible so they already know and understand that hormones is the name of the game,,,the rest of getbig 90+ % of them are on aas and hormones so they too know what it takes,,even the 2 btoehrs know it but you put them in a 22 catch ,,leave them alone,,they have good built and are serious about bodybuilding ,,its a very narcsistic thing bodybuilding and the lies fly in bodybuilding like buns out of bakery,,every one who reads this thread already knows theyh both use so enough of that
now ,,gh15 will write a post in few min about the whole subject and this will be a very important thread so you all should look for it when it comes up ,,,it will guide you through the understanding of what it takes for what look,,its going to be titled the 3 stages of a bodybuilder and the forth stage for pro
-
Exactly.
Muhammad Ali at 6'3 and 220lbs looked small IMO. Not big at all.
He claimed the same weight as Arnold...NOT the same measurements.
That's not a terribly convincing analogy. Ali was 2 inches taller at 6'3", and 212 or so when in shape, not 220 and even slimmer than 212 before the 70s. 2 inches taller and almost 30 lb. less, plus he wasn't pumped-big difference. Take a look at Schwarzie in the low 200s, no pump and the difference isn't pronounced. Foreman was the same height and around 225-230, and had some size.
-
gh15 will write a post in few min about the whole subject and this will be a very important thread so you all should look for it when it comes up ,,,it will guide you through the understanding of what it takes for what look,,its going to be titled the 3 stages of a bodybuilder and the forth stage for pro
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Looking forward to it
-
(http://www.aboutkhai.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/khai-before-and-after-2.jpg)
(http://www.aboutkhai.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/khai-before-and-after-1.jpg)
(http://www.playbackstl.com/images/stories/films/film_bigger.jpg)
lol^^^
(http://www.fitover40.com/img/jon_benson_before_after.jpg)
(http://bodybuildingarticles.com/files/u1/the-gabriel-method-pic.jpg)
-
lol Gh15 ill bet you get quite a kick outta having people listen to your bullshit....all the info you gather i have posted on the Strongman/powerlifting board freely
if i were using roids i would say so...period, i look good enough that i dont need to hear it from a bunch of strangers over the internet, im 22 years old and in college, poundin hot pussy and gettin my degree are pretty much all that concern me, bodybuilding is pretty far down on my list, iver never taken any roids because i dont need too lol i already look good enough to get what i want
MM admits to using roids and still hasnt posted a pic....ive posted this pic b4 but its one of my favorites so enjoy ;D
-
PS i watched a great vid most of you have probably seen called bigger stronger faster or something like that...amazing what they can do with b4 and after pics lol most are taken the same day!!! :o
whole thing is on youtube give it a look really interesting about what supplement companys really do as well
-
lol Gh15 ill bet you get quite a kick outta having people listen to your bullshit....all the info you gather i have posted on the Strongman/powerlifting board freely
if i were using roids i would say so...period, i look good enough that i dont need to hear it from a bunch of strangers over the internet, im 22 years old and in college, poundin hot pussy and gettin my degree are pretty much all that concern me, bodybuilding is pretty far down on my list, iver never taken any roids because i dont need too lol i already look good enough to get what i want
MM admits to using roids and still hasnt posted a pic....ive posted this pic b4 but its one of my favorites so enjoy ;D
]
friend,,im not here to fighting with you ,,im here for the truth ,,the truth is not nice,,,you are as natural as ,uvh as the so called hot girls you are fuckin in college while sitting home on a saturday night sunday morning,,,this is not the point
what gh15 writes can not be posted or gathered from anywhere,,,if you had any clue like the PROFESSIONALS WHO SHUT UP WHENEVER GH15 WRITE A WORD,,,,if you had any clue youd understand that gh15 write this way because thats its living,, its all nice and good you like bodybuilding ,,all nice and good i see youngsters trying,,but you got to understand that in most cases here you are talkin to top amatuers ,,professionals ,,dealers,,,all of them know whats up and been at it for years upon years
i hope you understand that guys like you and your brother on a daily basis ,,every single day!! gather money and buy units of gh for very cheap price from china delivered to the door in boxes smaller than cigrarettes packs,,,1000s of units for a simple 1-2k and GOOD GH!,,,gh by itself can make a person look like the most genetically gifted swimmer with out even seeing the inside of a gym for a second! now thats the cold truth!
good luck though!
-
if u were a true PROFESSIONAL you would not cast your lot in amongsts these morons trying to prove or disprove someones natural or juiced status over the internet...
-
“Simply Huge” & “The Wall”
Both of your are 100% Natural Bodybuilders and it is really very obvious for the expert Natural bodybuilders who achieved like your results naturally, I would like to congratulate both of you for your nice builds and keep up the hard work. :)
One advice for you: you don’t have to argue with people who don’t believe that you are Natural Bodybuilders, it is really worthless. Instead of wasting your time replying to such people go and cook your grilled chicken breast and do some more push ups. :P
Best of luck for both of you. ;)
-
looking good wall...
..dont listen to these jealous guys...
-
“Simply Huge” & “The Wall”
Both of your are 100% Natural Bodybuilders and it is really very obvious for the expert Natural bodybuilders who achieved like your results naturally, I would like to congratulate both of you for your nice builds and keep up the hard work. :)
One advice for you: you don’t have to argue with people who don’t believe that you are Natural Bodybuilders, it is really worthless. Instead of wasting your time replying to such people go and cook your grilled chicken breast and do some more push ups. :P
Best of luck for both of you. ;)
oh brother....
-
“Simply Huge” & “The Wall”
Both of your are 100% Natural Bodybuilders and it is really very obvious for the expert Natural bodybuilders who achieved like your results naturally, I would like to congratulate both of you for your nice builds and keep up the hard work. :)
One advice for you: you don’t have to argue with people who don’t believe that you are Natural Bodybuilders, it is really worthless. Instead of wasting your time replying to such people go and cook your grilled chicken breast and do some more push ups. :P
Best of luck for both of you. ;)
Hey stupid fuck.......first off these two jokers claimed they were all natural.......i.e. protein powders, creatine, and other things. Then the one brother admitted to "shitloads" of caffeine and aspirin. LOL. Who the hell uses CA and not Ephedrine with it? You're in college "the wall". You need to go back to elementary school cause you're DUMB!
-
If caffeine makes me anabolic then I should be dwarfing prime-time Ronnie.
Is everyone such a fucking dumbass around? Why don't take your uneducated ass and REREAD the fucking thread. Goddamn some of you are morons. No one said caffeine is anabolic dipshit. But point is these guys were first denying they used anything except creatine and powders. Then the brother comes out and admits, after he got his ass reamed, he used shitloads of caffeine and aspirin. The other point is who the hell uses CA and not ephedrine? That's just stupid. So chances are he used ephedrine is pretty high. And ephedrine as VERY powerful fat burner, up there with clen and t3, that is if you've ever actually used it.
I love how all these morons who've never used steroids or any type of fat burning drugs know what's achievable with them and what's not. Talking about something you've never used personally makes you look like a dumbass. Sorry but dropping 30-45lbs in a few months while maintaining all your muscle is impossible for a natural. I don't care what anyone says.
-
Is everyone such a fucking dumbass around? Why don't take your uneducated ass and REREAD the fucking thread. Goddamn some of you are morons. No one said caffeine is anabolic dipshit. But point is these guys were first denying they used anything except creatine and powders. Then the brother comes out and admits, after he got his ass reamed, he used shitloads of caffeine and aspirin. The other point is who the hell uses CA and not ephedrine? That's just stupid. So chances are he used ephedrine is pretty high. And ephedrine as VERY powerful fat burner, up there with clen and t3, that is if you've ever actually used it.
I love how all these morons who've never used steroids or any type of fat burning drugs know what's achievable with them and what's not. Talking about something you've never used personally makes you look like a dumbass. Sorry but dropping 30-45lbs in a few months while maintaining all your muscle is impossible for a natural. I don't care what anyone says.
Hey, i'm all ears
-
Oh and caffeine is considered a "drug". Natural to me is food, powders, creatine, amino acid pills, etc. Nothing that stimulates the sympathetic nervous system to any degree which is what caffeine and ephedrine and other fat burners do.
Here's the funny thing about "naturals". They post a thread like this and EMPHASIZE how natural they are. Then they finally admit they've used something as miniscule as caffeine. Why not just admit it from the beginning? That's what I don't get. What's the big deal. In your mind it's natural and it's only caffeine. Hell it probably doesn't even make that much of a difference so with that being said why do you even use it? Why all the downplaying and mystery about what you use? It's the typical MO of a natural. Downplay everything, emphasize the natural part, and people will be all over your jock strap. Ego boost.
-
Oh and caffeine is considered a "drug". Natural to me is food, powders, creatine, amino acid pills, etc. Nothing that stimulates the sympathetic nervous system to any degree which is what caffeine and ephedrine and other fat burners do.
Here's the funny thing about "naturals". They post a thread like this and EMPHASIZE how natural they are. Then they finally admit they've used something as miniscule as caffeine. Why not just admit it from the beginning? That's what I don't get. What's the big deal. In your mind it's natural and it's only caffeine. Hell it probably doesn't even make that much of a difference so with that being said why do you even use it? Why all the downplaying and mystery about what you use? It's the typical MO of a natural. Downplay everything, emphasize the natural part, and people will be all over your jock strap. Ego boost.
Because its how you define natural. Most people dont consider using caffine as breaking their natural status, including most sports dope controls. Its a bit like saying your not natural if you eat any processed foods.
-
post a pic or shut the fuck up
-
I mean it's funny natural bodybuilders must be the most honest, most ethical, most moral people in the world because for some reason lying and natural bodybuilding is mutually exclusive to everyone. For some reason out of all the liars, cheats, charlatans not only in the world but especially in the world of bodybuilding natural bodybuilders are immune to lying?? LOL. ::) People lie, people lie all the time, especially bodybuilders. Naturals are no different and in most cases have more of a reason to lie.
-
Whats the point of arguing in this thread? Its not that if they admit anything they will turn back to their old state...they look awesome now so who cares if they used or not. Good job.
-
post a pic or shut the fuck up
EPIC FAILURE
-
i did fail ,i didnt say who it was directed to. that was for Musclemcmannus
-
lol i dont use eph because it is banned by WADA and considered a controlled substance lol i wasnt using caf and aspirin to burn fat i was using it for enegry during the workout and muscle soreness lol anyone who has dieted naturally can tell you that a low carb diet with some low intensity cardio will melt the fat right off you
as for shitloads lol i wasnt takin a bottle a day there hoss, its a relative term...
i got nothing against steroids...or people who use um, its a personal choice, i jus dont know enough about um to consider taking something so powerful with Potential long term adverse effects
like i said i jus do the BB for fun cuz it gives me a reason not to go out and drink beer and eat pizza every weekend...MM you have been squeeling over this thread for days, give it up man you took roids and still look like shit, im sorry i really am i wish i could help you but you strike me as someone who lacks the disciplene to put in the time required to make gains
BTW i gotta get a blood test done in a few days for my internship...i would be happy to post the results lol i dunno if that would prove anything or not im not sure what you look for other than elevated test levels and high LDL/ low HDL
lol and i know "brutul books in the backround"
PS MM i never claimed anything lol read my posts, i didnt even start this thread lol and if using caffiene makes u a drug user than im pretty sure all of america is guilty...ever drink a red bull, coffee, so on and so forth, you do it for energy the same reason i do lol where do u draw the line....i draw mine By WADA standerds cuz im hoping to compete in Olympic Weightlifting soon ( a new challenge and may i say a very humbling one) If WADA says its ok than who am i to argue....and more notably lol Who the fuck are you to argue, they are professionals, you just post on getbig ::)
-
Because its how you define natural. Most people dont consider using caffine as breaking their natural status, including most sports dope controls. Its a bit like saying your not natural if you eat any processed foods.
That's fine and that's a whole nother argument. Point is the guy didn't "admit" he used anything till half way through the thread after a few of us were doubting his natural status. Why is that? And to my other question who the hell uses caffeine and aspirin and not ephedrine? Anyways you don't go from a big bloated red faced steroidesque bulking phase to losing 30-45lbs while maintaining most of your size and definition naturally. Especially if most of that 275lbs was indeed fat. But you probably see boatloads of 6'2 275lb 19 year olds in your gym huh? That's NFL size buddy. And the only thing I see when he says he was actually 275lbs is that he's full of shit as well about that weight because 275lbs is still 275lbs and at 6'2 it's still fucking huge.
-
lol i dont use eph because it is banned by WADA and considered a controlled substance lol i wasnt using caf and aspirin to burn fat i was using it for enegry during the workout and muscle soreness lol anyone who has dieted naturally can tell you that a low carb diet with some low intensity cardio will melt the fat right off you
as for shitloads lol i wasnt takin a bottle a day there hoss, its a relative term...
i got nothing against steroids...or people who use um, its a personal choice, i jus dont know enough about um to consider taking something so powerful with Potential long term adverse effects
like i said i jus do the BB for fun cuz it gives me a reason not to go out and drink beer and eat pizza every weekend...MM you have been squeeling over this thread for days, give it up man you took roids and still look like shit, im sorry i really am i wish i could help you but you strike me as someone who lacks the disciplene to put in the time required to make gains
BTW i gotta get a blood test done in a few days for my internship...i would be happy to post the results lol i dunno if that would prove anything or not im not sure what you look for other than elevated test levels and high LDL/ low HDL
lol and i know "brutul books in the backround"
PS MM i never claimed anything lol read my posts, i didnt even start this thread lol and if using caffiene makes u a drug user than im pretty sure all of america is guilty...ever drink a red bull, coffee, so on and so forth, you do it for energy the same reason i do lol where do u draw the line....i draw mine By WADA standerds cuz im hoping to compete in Olympic Weightlifting soon ( a new challenge and may i say a very humbling one) If WADA says its ok than who am i to argue....and more notably lol Who the fuck are you to argue, they are professionals, you just post on getbig ::)
Dude there is no consistency in anything you post. First you said you were working out for 10+ years and were a lifetime natural. That means at 22 you would have been lifting consistently since you were 12? Which is a stupid statement in and of itself because how many 12 year olds do you know workout "consistently" at 12 years old? Were you Richard Sandrak? LMAO! Then you say oh well I didn't really workout correctly till I was 16. So my question to you is how big were you at 16? You claim you were 19 and 275 lbs which according to you isn't THAT big because most of it was fat? ??? LMAO! Again I want to see a pic of you at 16. You looked like a 150lb twink in your MMA photos and your skirt highland game photo. Your arms looked about 14 inches in the skirt photo. Your weight sure does fluctuate a lot for someone who is supposedly natural. And WADA is a fucking joke dude! If you knew anything about real bodybuilding you'd understand that. Tons of guys in WADA are not truly natural. You think if guys in PROFESSIONAL Olympics are doping guys in WADA aren't going to? Haha you got A LOT to learn about life.
-
Whats the point of arguing in this thread? Its not that if they admit anything they will turn back to their old state...they look awesome now so who cares if they used or not. Good job.
This thread is getting really old and it's getting pointless to argue. Hell the whole thread was pointless. But you gotta wonder when these threads always go 12+ pages. If these guys knew they were natural they wouldn't spend countless hours posting arguments defending their position. If it were me I'd say fuck it I know what i am I don't have to prove anything. The onus always seems to be on them to prove themselves. Hahah. These guys will probably argue another 12 pages. The Wall said he was done arguing pages ago. He's still here! LMAO! ::)
-
And the wall what are blood tests going to prove if you used steroids at 19 years old considering you are now 22? Where's that pic of you at 16, 17, 18 and 19? I mean if I was growing like that and got up to 275lbs at 19 I sure as hell would have been proud and kept a good photo record of it. Cause as much as you think 275 at 6'2 isnt' a big deal most people would disagree. I mean that would make you the biggest kid in most American high schools. But it's not that big eh?
-
This thread is getting really old and it's getting pointless to argue. Hell the whole thread was pointless. But you gotta wonder when these threads always go 12+ pages. If these guys knew they were natural they wouldn't spend countless hours posting arguments defending their position. If it were me I'd say fuck it I know what i am I don't have to prove anything. The onus always seems to be on them to prove themselves. Hahah. These guys will probably argue another 12 pages. The Wall said he was done arguing pages ago. He's still here! LMAO! ::)
u suk ballz ::)
-
u suk ballz ::)
And you're probably an immature, titey whitey wearing 19 year old who's a lifetime lifter as well? LMAO!
-
Whats the point of arguing in this thread? Its not that if they admit anything they will turn back to their old state...they look awesome now so who cares if they used or not. Good job.
Endlessly debating the hard work involved in doing this naturally greatly mitigates intense feelings of inadequacy amongst those without the balls to bring it in the gym and/or shitty genetics. Seve is the textbook example. :D
-
Endlessly debating the hard work involved in doing this naturally greatly mitigates intense feelings of inadequacy amongst those without the balls to bring it in the gym and/or shitty genetics. Seve is the textbook example. :D
You go get em, bowflex-man.
-
And you're probably an immature, titey whitey wearing 19 year old who's a lifetime lifter as well? LMAO!
epic failure at life cumbak.
-
lol yep started at 11 years old and my brother was 13...was a long time ago but ive got pics of that too but they arent digital lol i would have to take a picture of a picture not sure how that would work out (no scanner)
the reason my weight fluxs so much is bc i constantly have to lose and gain weight for all the various sports i do...lol its so funny that you are makin fun of my arm size when you havent posted any pics or given a shred of credibility. Yes i know that most Olympic athletes are on juice lol but who said i was going to the olympics lol i jus like the sport of weightlifting its fun to watch and compete in
and your right i wasnt lifting correctly at 11 years old lol but i was lifting and i did read Arnolds Encyc/bible lol i wasnt doing everything right but i had some basic understanding of nutrition and what exercises to do...and when your that young, its enough to give u a solid foundation
you are starting to Meltdown pretty hard core there MM you better go have a wine spritzer and kool off
im still here because its sunday i got nothing to do lol and because getbig is a way of life lol you live by the keyboard...you die by the key board, the internet warriors code!!!!
-
lol yep started at 11 years old and my brother was 13...was a long time ago but ive got pics of that too but they arent digital lol i would have to take a picture of a picture not sure how that would work out (no scanner)
the reason my weight fluxs so much is bc i constantly have to lose and gain weight for all the various sports i do...lol its so funny that you are makin fun of my arm size when you havent posted any pics or given a shred of credibility. Yes i know that most Olympic athletes are on juice lol but who said i was going to the olympics lol i jus like the sport of weightlifting its fun to watch and compete in
and your right i wasnt lifting correctly at 11 years old lol but i was lifting and i did read Arnolds Encyc/bible lol i wasnt doing everything right but i had some basic understanding of nutrition and what exercises to do...and when your that young, its enough to give u a solid foundation
you are starting to Meltdown pretty hard core there MM you better go have a wine spritzer and kool off
im still here because its sunday i got nothing to do lol and because getbig is a way of life lol you live by the keyboard...you die by the key board, the internet warriors code!!!!
Does saying "lol" make you feel good?
-
:-* you wanna be my secretary
-
lol yep started at 11 years old and my brother was 13...was a long time ago but ive got pics of that too but they arent digital lol i would have to take a picture of a picture not sure how that would work out (no scanner)
the reason my weight fluxs so much is bc i constantly have to lose and gain weight for all the various sports i do...lol its so funny that you are makin fun of my arm size when you havent posted any pics or given a shred of credibility. Yes i know that most Olympic athletes are on juice lol but who said i was going to the olympics lol i jus like the sport of weightlifting its fun to watch and compete in
and your right i wasnt lifting correctly at 11 years old lol but i was lifting and i did read Arnolds Encyc/bible lol i wasnt doing everything right but i had some basic understanding of nutrition and what exercises to do...and when your that young, its enough to give u a solid foundation
you are starting to Meltdown pretty hard core there MM you better go have a wine spritzer and kool off
im still here because its sunday i got nothing to do lol and because getbig is a way of life lol you live by the keyboard...you die by the key board, the internet warriors code!!!!
So you are admitting that your arms are 14 inches in that pic? So that means that your arms fluctuate by 3-4 inches naturally? IS that what you're saying?
If I'm wrong why don't you quit posting in this thread and chaulk me up to being a jackass internet wannabe who's just some fat or skinny twink sitting behind a computer. Why if there isn't any truth to anything I say are you still continuing to argue with me? Everyone knows I'm the dumbass in this thread right? LOL.
-
holy jesus lol i didnt "admit" anything dude anyones arms can look small in a pic lol my arms are just fine there big guy....believe it or not most sports dont require a sleevless shirt and front double bicep shot lol u are failing miserably
the reason i keep posting in this thread is cuz your growin on me....your kinda like my new internet bitch lol
this is too much fun for me to just walk away cuz i have the proof unlike alot of people and u just CANT STAND IT lol your melting right in front of me how could anyone walk away from that
-
holy jesus lol i didnt "admit" anything dude anyones arms can look small in a pic lol my arms are just fine there big guy....believe it or not most sports dont require a sleevless shirt and front double bicep shot lol u are failing miserably
the reason i keep posting in this thread is cuz your growin on me....your kinda like my new internet bitch lol
this is too much fun for me to just walk away cuz i have the proof unlike alot of people and u just CANT STAND IT lol your melting right in front of me how could anyone walk away from that
You still don't get it do you? I want you to post a pic at 16 years old. That was only 6 years ago. So I'm sure you still have some digital pics of when you were 16 right? I mean afterall digital cameras were around then right? That was only 2003.
I want you to post a pic of when you were 16 throughout your transition up to 19 at 275lbs. But you fail to do this? What are you hiding?
-
holy jesus lol i didnt "admit" anything dude anyones arms can look small in a pic lol my arms are just fine there big guy....believe it or not most sports dont require a sleevless shirt and front double bicep shot lol u are failing miserably
the reason i keep posting in this thread is cuz your growin on me....your kinda like my new internet bitch lol
this is too much fun for me to just walk away cuz i have the proof unlike alot of people and u just CANT STAND IT lol your melting right in front of me how could anyone walk away from that
don't worry i believe you
let's hear more about your diet and training, how low were your carbs when you dieted down? i did chest today 110s for 12, you? post some lifts man
-
I'm actually starting to feel sorry for you to be honest. I mean your entire identity revolves around your muscles and physique. And here you are melting that your entire would is coming crashing down because I question your natural status. Dude there is more to life than lifting and muscles. At 22 you're way too young to have such a one tracked mind. Enjoy life and get out more. I highly doubt you're pouding as much pussy as you claim since you are a natural bodybuilder attending college full time? Afterall natural bodybuilding requires a huge amount of dedication and discipline. How many chicks wouldn't be weirded out by a guy that pulls out a few chicken breasts from his pocket during a movie date :)
-
lol cuz at 16 i was doing wrestling....you know sports, you ever play sports there chubbs? i didnt start even think about doing shows until i was almost 20
and no i dont have any digital photos of me at 16 lol i think ive been more than generous in the photo department ;D but im sure if i look for um i can find some photos and take a picture of them for you big guy....we are all waiting to see the wizard of truth that you must be lol ive posted a 100 pics and yet you post zero and whine for MORE MORE MORE lol i see no reason why i should post more whack off material for you when you havent produced any pics of your own
PS i didnt get a digi camera until i was 19 years old lol im not an internet millionaire like everyone else on here :-[ i was what you call "middle class"
-
I'm actually starting to feel sorry for you to be honest. I mean your entire identity revolves around your muscles and physique. And here you are melting that your entire would is coming crashing down because I question your natural status. Dude there is more to life than lifting and muscles. At 22 you're way too young to have such a one tracked mind. Enjoy life and get out more. I highly doubt you're pouding as much pussy as you claim since you are a natural bodybuilder attending college full time? Afterall natural bodybuilding requires a huge amount of dedication and discipline. How many chicks wouldn't be weirded out by a guy that pulls out a few chicken breasts from his pocket during a movie date :)
lol lets see ive competed in MMA, Boxing, Bodybuilding, Strongman, Im a Full Time Student, Have a Job, Olympic Weightlifting(no comps yet jus training for it atm) and have provided pics and proof of all of these things....one track mind lol keep trying
and questioning the amount of pussy you can pull in college with a physique like mine is just absurd
-
lol cuz at 16 i was doing wrestling....you know sports, you ever play sports there chubbs? i didnt start even think about doing shows until i was almost 20
and no i dont have any digital photos of me at 16 lol i think ive been more than generous in the photo department ;D but im sure if i look for um i can find some photos and take a picture of them for you big guy....we are all waiting to see the wizard of truth that you must be lol ive posted a 100 pics and yet you post zero and whine for MORE MORE MORE lol i see no reason why i should post more whack off material for you when you havent produced any pics of your own
PS i didnt get a digi camera until i was 19 years old lol im not an internet millionaire like everyone else on here :-[ i was what you call "middle class"
Yeah I was a D1 athlete in college buddy. Dude you don't even have to post a pic at 16. Just post a pic of 18 and then your transition to 19 years old at 275lbs. You have not been generous in the pics department. You keep posting random pics that show no transition from when you were a tiny tit to 275lbs of brickshithouse muscle. Sorry but that one bloated pic you posted is the definition of steroid use.
What kind of diet did you follow in order to get up to 275lbs? Funny every time I'm on cycle everyone always says how red my face is. Same for all my enhanced buddies. It's a tell tale sign of roids. Along with the bloated sausage look. Here's the thing dude.......you've got a stellar physique at 22. Hell if you would have posted those pics alone and only those pics. I would have believed you were natural possibly. But when you posted your big bloated pics and claimed you were 275lbs at 19 and then claimed you lost 30-45lbs naturally without losing hardly any size.......and then several pages later admitting you used caffeine and asiprin. Which if you really understood drugs you'd understand that no one takes "aspirin" for muscle soreness. That's not the purpose behind aspirin in a ECA stack.
Aspirin inhibits prostaglandin production outside of the cells, which, in conjunction with caffeine, greatly prolongs the thermogenic effects and increased metabolism by sustaining elevated cAMP levels
So again you're just really dumb or a complete and utter bullshitter. Granted that you're in college I find it hard to believe that former.
-
lol lets see ive competed in MMA, Boxing, Bodybuilding, Strongman, Im a Full Time Student, Have a Job, Olympic Weightlifting(no comps yet jus training for it atm) and have provided pics and proof of all of these things....one track mind lol keep trying
and questioning the amount of pussy you can pull in college with a physique like mine is just absurd
::) LMAO! Oh brother you have a lot to learn about chicks dude. You strike me as the type of dipshit that goes to college frat parties and gets girls drunk in order to fuck them. Are you in a fraternity as well? Haha just give up dude your ego driven ass is getting handed to you on a silver platter.......Mr. I use aspirin for muscle soreness.
-
::) LMAO! Oh brother you have a lot to learn about chicks dude. You strike me as the type of dipshit that goes to college frat parties and gets girls drunk in order to fuck them. Are you in a fraternity as well? Haha just give up dude your ego driven ass is getting handed to you on a silver platter.......Mr. I use aspirin for muscle soreness.
have you ever posted a pic
or backed anything you claim up
you talk alot of shit for an anonymous little bitch
no offence :-*
-
lol if im not in a frat they cost alot of money to be in one and i spend all my money on alcohol to get bitches drunk and take them home to fuck....looks like i got alot ot learn about women lol Teach me your ways MM
show us all the hot pussy youve been pulling with that massive bod of yours
your officially cut off you tiny tit you!! lol post a pic up and ill post a pic of me injecting myself with some Dr pepper/steroids lol
-
have you ever posted a pic
or backed anything you claim up
you talk alot of shit for an anonymous little bitch
no offence :-*
My pic has absolutely nothing to do with anything I've said in this thread, stop beating a dead horse. You just make yourself look like a fool. Stick to the facts dumbass..
-
My pic has absolutely nothing to do with anything I've said in this thread, stop beating a dead horse. You just make yourself look like a fool. Stick to the facts dumbass..
take your own advice princess
for it is you that is the fool
-
My pic has absolutely nothing to do with anything I've said in this thread, stop beating a dead horse. You just make yourself look like a fool. Stick to the facts dumbass..
lol epic avoiding posting a pic that would reveal a 150 lb twink that sits at home worshiping muscle mags and whacking off during lifetime specials
face it man, you got owned hard in this thread, it doesnt mean you have to like it, it just means you gotta create another gimmick and come back strong in the next thread :P
-
lol if im not in a frat they cost alot of money to be in one and i spend all my money on alcohol to get bitches drunk and take them home to fuck....looks like i got alot ot learn about women lol Teach me your ways MM
show us all the hot pussy youve been pulling with that massive bod of yours
your officially cut off you tiny tit you!! lol post a pic up and ill post a pic of me injecting myself with some Dr pepper/steroids lol
Haha! All that time fucking and drinking.....what about sticking to your diet and training? Being a natural takes a huge amount of discipline and consistency. A weekend of debauchery will kill your gains dude! And what about studying? Hahah no wonder college is such a joke nowadays.....the new high school equivalent. Dumbasses like you have dumbed down the entire premise of "higher" learning. Haha thanks for proving the exact stereotype I predicted you were.
-
lol epic avoiding posting a pic that would reveal a 150 lb twink that sits at home worshiping muscle mags and whacking off during lifetime specials
face it man, you got owned hard in this thread, it doesnt mean you have to like it, it just means you gotta create another gimmick and come back strong in the next thread :P
So why is it these arguments are always reduced to one of two things........
Posting pics and gimmick accounts? What do either have to do with any of the arguments/points in this thread?
-
take your own advice princess
for it is you that is the fool
Sure thing Shakespeare. ::)
-
So why is it these arguments are always reduced to one of two things........
Posting pics and gimmick accounts? What do either have to do with any of the arguments/points in this thread?
just admit you are 110lbs soaking wet
and we can move on
people shouldn't act the part unless they are the part
-
Haha! All that time fucking and drinking.....what about sticking to your diet and training? Being a natural takes a huge amount of discipline and consistency. A weekend of debauchery will kill your gains dude! And what about studying? Hahah no wonder college is such a joke nowadays.....the new high school equivalent. Dumbasses like you have dumbed down the entire premise of "higher" learning. Haha thanks for proving the exact stereotype I predicted you were.
This feud = getting good.
-
just admit you are 110lbs soaking wet
and we can move on
people shouldn't act the part unless they are the part
You are right I'm a 150lb twink. Happy now? STFU and let's debate the facts:
The wall facts:
I used shitloads of caffeine and aspirin
I used aspirin for muscle soreness (haha this one is hilarious)
I was 275lbs at 19
At 22 years I've been training for 10 years. That means I was a hardcore trainer at 12 years old.
I dropped 30-45lbs in a matter of months while maintaining most of my size.
I'm a natural but frequently partake in frequent binge drinking and mindless fucking of drunk girls
Not only am I lifetime natural trainer with 18 inch arms and 17 inch arms in contest shape I manage to compete in a host of other sports and athletic endeavors including the very taxing MMA. Burning all those calories!!!!!!!! Yet even most professional bodybuilders on boatloads of drugs pretty much live a hermit lifestyle because that' what it takes to be a world level bodybuilder. Yet some 22 year old who's only been training correctly since he was 16 can manage to be a jack of all trades INCLUDING a very dedicated, NATURAL, disciplined, and dedicated college fucking machine , pussy pounding, class acing, paper writing, bing drinking college stud! LMAO!
-
LOL ;D
-
i never said that I drank.....in fact i drink diet coke at the bar and buy girls cheap liquor (epic lack of knowledge of how to take home a drunk girl, revealing of course that you are a virgin)
i posted pics of all those activities, and the span between them is covering like 4 years of my life....ive done more in 4 years than you will come close to doing in a lifetime
You are right I'm a 150lb twink. Happy now? STFU and let's debate the facts:
The wall facts:
I used shitloads of caffeine and aspirin
I used aspirin for muscle soreness (haha this one is hilarious)
I was 275lbs at 19
At 22 years I've been training for 10 years. That means I was a hardcore trainer at 12 years old.
I dropped 30-45lbs in a matter of months while maintaining most of my size.
I'm a natural but frequently partake in frequent binge drinking and mindless fucking of drunk girls
Not only am I lifetime natural trainer with 18 inch arms and 17 inch arms in contest shape I manage to compete in a host of other sports and athletic endeavors including the very taxing MMA. Burning all those calories!!!!!!!! Yet even most professional bodybuilders on boatloads of drugs pretty much live a hermit lifestyle because that' what it takes to be a world level bodybuilder. Yet some 22 year old who's only been training correctly since he was 16 can manage to be a jack of all trades INCLUDING a very dedicated, NATURAL, disciplined, and dedicated college fucking machine , pussy pounding, class acing, paper writing, bing drinking college stud! LMAO!
lol most of that shit wasnt even claimed but epic jealousy on your part and final stages of a meltdown before you finally abandon the thread for a while and jerk off assuring yourself that those internet women would want you if they woudl just give a guy a chance :'(
-
;) lol that last post cut deep, i can tell i hurt your feelings, need a tissue hunny?
-
the wall, do you bulk nowadays or just stay lean? when you bulked in your pic how many calories you were consuming?
-
i never said that I drank.....in fact i drink diet coke at the bar and buy girls cheap liquor (epic lack of knowledge of how to take home a drunk girl, revealing of course that you are a virgin)
i posted pics of all those activities, and the span between them is covering like 4 years of my life....ive done more in 4 years than you will come close to doing in a lifetime
lol most of that shit wasnt even claimed but epic jealousy on your part and final stages of a meltdown before you finally abandon the thread for a while and jerk off assuring yourself that those internet women would want you if they woudl just give a guy a chance :'(
Haha oh brother. Silly me asking women out who were sober, taking them to dinner, and THEN having sex with them. All that money I could have saved. Hell why bother buying them liquor? You're a real idiot. You could have just slipped some GHB or other drugs in their drink. EPIC LACK OF KNOWLEDGE ON HOW TO REALLY FUCK A COLLEGE CHICK! You're a moron the more you speak. Oh and by the way I attended University of Colorado at Boulder and I GUARANTEE you I went to bigger and better parties than you could ever dream of. That was a while ago and I have more important things to worry about in life.......like owning punks like you over the internet :) LMAO!
-
Haha oh brother. Silly me asking women out who were sober, taking them to dinner, and THEN having sex with them. All that money I could have saved. Hell why bother buying them liquor? You're a real idiot. You could have just slipped some GHB or other drugs in their drink. EPIC LACK OF KNOWLEDGE ON HOW TO REALLY FUCK A COLLEGE CHICK! You're a moron the more you speak. Oh and by the way I attended University of Colorado at Boulder and I GUARANTEE you I went to bigger and better parties than you could ever dream of. That was a while ago and I have more important things to worry about in life.......like owning punks like you over the internet :) LMAO!
virgin meltdown ::)
-
the wall, do you bulk nowadays or just stay lean? when you bulked in your pic how many calories you were consuming?
right now im about 250...and not very lean lolol :-\ im gettin ready to cut so i can compete in the 105 KG class of olympic weighlifting and maybe do a BB show in july...im gonna bulk for about 5 more weeks trying to clean up my calories while i do it and hopefully shed some bodyfat but not super important that i do
my calories are usually bt 5k-7k depend on if i eat dirty or clean 3 days a weak of training 3 super light days with stretchign afterwards...
im gonna start a video training blog charting my progress
-
virgin meltdown ::)
So how old are you?
-
Haha oh brother. Silly me asking women out who were sober, taking them to dinner, and THEN having sex with them. All that money I could have saved. Hell why bother buying them liquor? You're a real idiot. You could have just slipped some GHB or other drugs in their drink. EPIC LACK OF KNOWLEDGE ON HOW TO REALLY FUCK A COLLEGE CHICK! You're a moron the more you speak. Oh and by the way I attended University of Colorado at Boulder and I GUARANTEE you I went to bigger and better parties than you could ever dream of. That was a while ago and I have more important things to worry about in life.......like owning punks like you over the internet :) LMAO!
Muscle McMannus you are just better than me at everyone...your bigger, more ripped, pull more pussy, have won more MMA fights, BB shows, Strongmans, and you have a degree that probably better than mine too...but i feel compelled to ask WHERES THE FUCKING PROOF ::)
PS bet you didnt think in a million years youd be outted on the interent as a virgin lol that one stings, sorry broski
-
Muscle McMannus you are just better than me at everyone...your bigger, more ripped, pull more pussy, have won more MMA fights, BB shows, Strongmans, and you have a degree that probably better than mine too...but i feel compelled to ask WHERES THE FUCKING PROOF ::)
PS bet you didnt think in a million years youd be outted on the interent as a virgin lol that one stings, sorry broski
get the fuck out of this forum.
Muscle McMannus shits all over you "broski", he is well liked here but nobody gives a fuck about you.
-
Muscle McMannus you are just better than me at everyone...your bigger, more ripped, pull more pussy, have won more MMA fights, BB shows, Strongmans, and you have a degree that probably better than mine too...but i feel compelled to ask WHERES THE FUCKING PROOF ::)
PS bet you didnt think in a million years youd be outted on the interent as a virgin lol that one stings, sorry broski
Haha I never claimed to be better than you. Quit projecting your own insecurities. Im simply calling you out on your bullshit claims. Nor did I EVER say you have a shitty physique. And I've never claimed I'm the biggest baddest dude on getbig. I can name several people that are much bigger than I am. And i don't box, nor do I do MMA (although Im belted in veearnisjitsu) nor do I compete in any type of bodybuilding shows or weightlifting events. In fact you sound like a pretty well rounded guy as far as your athletic abilities. However, that doesn't change the fact that I think you're full of shit regarding your claims. :) LMAO! So your defense in this entire argument is this:
I have several gimmicks I post under
I haven't posted my pics
and I'm a virgin???????????
LMAO trust me I'm not a virgin considering I'm getting married in a few months. Second, none of what you say has ANY bearing on me regarding your bs claims. And you've proven yourself to be the typical college idiot who has to get girls drunk to screw them. The more you talk the more of a fool you look like.
-
lol how can you call bullshit on claims that i have backed up with proof lol thats it starting tomorrow im done taking pictures its all on video from here on out!!
PS gratz on gettin married
you win man im sick of arguing about it, you can believe whatever you want too but its not gonna change the truth either way...trying to force YOUR opininon on others is ludacris and I myself am guilty of doing the same thing
i never used steroids, i dunno what else i can do to prove that than what i have done...the fact is that your only proof is that i was big and had a red face, and my only proof is my pics and my word, neither which mean anything over the internet
-
lol how can you call bullshit on claims that i have backed up with proof lol thats it starting tomorrow im done taking pictures its all on video from here on out!!
PS gratz on gettin married
you win man im sick of arguing about it, you can believe whatever you want too but its not gonna change the truth either way...trying to force YOUR opininon on others is ludacris and I myself am guilty of doing the same thing
i never used steroids, i dunno what else i can do to prove that than what i have done...the fact is that your only proof is that i was big and had a red face, and my only proof is my pics and my word, neither which mean anything over the internet
The entire premise of this whole argument never rested on the fact that whether or not you used anabolic androgenic steroids. It encompassed many things. 275lbs at 19 years old. Dropping upwards of 45lbs without losing any muscle. Admitting that you used ECA after saying you never used anything except protein powders and creatine. You're right this entire thread is silly now. Look you're a good guy, enjoy your dumb college days while you can. The real world sucks! LOL.
-
And it's ludicrous college boy ;) Ludacris is the rapper.
-
i have no way of proving that i weighed 275 in those pics bro, but honostly at 6'2 how much do u think i weighed, all those pics were by myself if i had someone else in there with me to give you some reference you would be able to see easily that i was telling the truth
ill look for one and post if for u if i can find it
And it's ludicrous college boy ;) Ludacris is the rapper.
i certainly never claimed to be a brain surgeon :P
-
i have no way of proving that i weighed 275 in those pics bro, but honostly at 6'2 how much do u think i weighed, all those pics were by myself if i had someone else in there with me to give you some reference you would be able to see easily that i was telling the truth
ill look for one and post if for u if i can find it
i certainly never claimed to be a brain surgeon :P
Spelling is brain surgery?
Anyways, don't bother. I don't really care anymore. Only you know the truth.
-
lame thread.
-
lame thread.
And how many times have you posted in it? ::) You're an artist, leave the critical thinking to the rest of us.
-
So if you take caffeine, you aint natural?
Is that what your suggesting?
PRICK
Haha I wonder when you'd pop up and say something stupid. No, I never said that. I finid it funny that someone claims he was only using protein powder and creatine in the beginning then posts later admits he was using, in his words (shitloads) of caffeine and aspirin. You've obviously never used an ECA stack. It's VERY effective at burning fat. So that leads me to my other skepticism, either he's really dumb or a bullshitter because NO ONE ever uses caffeine and aspirin alone. He claimed he was using apsirin for muscle soreness. LMAO! That's not why apsirin is part of an ECA stack. So it is my belief that he in fact has used ephedrine as well but is probably deny it as due to his involvement and future involvement in WADA and natural bodybuilding for for whatever reason. We tried to end this thread on a respectful note. So let's leave it at that. Take your toys and go home Per Se! You've got rocks for brains and have no viability in an argument that is above your intellect.
-
Wow Per Se you deleted that as fast as you posted it? Why? Seems like your the gimmick. Haha I quoted it before you could delete. Hi Wall's brother! :)
-
that wasnt me. i only have one account with getbig and have no need for gimmicks. i dont post here that often compared to most.
as far as claiming only protein powders and creatine. i was speaking for myself. i outlined what i took. i never took caffeine, besides drinking diet soda, and i never took aspirin. the wall, my brother, chimed in later in the thread and posted what he took. of course you skewed the truth to try to make it seem like it was to your advantage.
and like my brother said, if you could see him in relation to others when he was 275 lbs, then you would have no doubts about the weight.
I'll tell you about a friend who moved in with us aroudn that time. he was 6'4 and weighed 190 lbs. he had started lifting with us in the past year some, but hadnt made great gains. he then moved in with us for the college year and we had him start eating like we were to try to "bulk up" he went from 190 lbs to 240 lbs in 6 months. a lot of it was fat, but some muscle, just like when my brother and i were bulking. it isnt hard to gain weight when you eat a LOT. most people cant stomach eating that much food though. its almost like a workout in itself to constantly force feed to get enough calories in to gain weight. as your weight goes up though, your strength almost always follows. even if its fat gain it seems like you get stronger. i dont recommend that type of bulking anymore though, b/c it makes it much harder to lose the weight. i still bulk, but i dont eat the same foods, and dont do it quite as quickly as i used to in order to maintain a better overall look and not turn into a pudgy bastard.
I've seen both your pictures AND your brother's pictures. You both look bloated not fat. There is a huge difference. Now all of a sudden you have some mysterious friend that gained 50lbs in 6 months. You guys keep downplaying everything. 275lb is not that big......50lbs in 6 months is not that unheard of. No it's not that unheard of to gain 50lbs of fat in 6 months. But it's PRACTICALLY IMPOSSIBLE to turn around and drop that same amount of weight and WALLAH have the same if not more muscle than before. THAT'S THE BULLSHIT IN YOUR CLAIMS! Hell ANYONE can blow up to a fat 350lbs. I'm sure I could eat lard out of a can all day and become a sumo wrestler (not really but you get my point), however to make the dramatic changes in definition with major SWINGS in your physique in such short periods of time is practically unheard of and impossible naturally. Sorry nothing you say, no matter how many mysterious friends you have, will change my mind. I've been around bodybuilding long enough, have known enough people who are on drugs and natural to know the difference.
And what I find funny is NEITHER YOU NOR YOUR BROTHER have yet to post ANY details of your diet or training. I.e. let's see some sample diets of what you ate, let's see what type of workouts you were doing. I can tell you EXACTLY how I train and what I eat right now. If you are so dedicated to your nutrition and training which is required to make those type of gains you shoud be able to give us exact details of what you eat and the methods you use to get into that type of conditioning. Instead all you do is give us broad generalizations of I eat 5-7K a day, I train 3 times a week etc. etc.
-
yes! diet specs or it didn't happen
-
You're an artist, leave the critical thinking to the rest of us.
I will.. in fact I would prefer not to think much at all.. as you can tell by many of my posts :)
still... lame thread.
-
Wow Per Se you deleted that as fast as you posted it? Why? Seems like your the gimmick. Haha I quoted it before you could delete. Hi Wall's brother! :)
No gimmick...I deleted it as I'd called you a prick. I'm not into internet beef.
-
No gimmick...I deleted it as I'd called you a prick. I'm not into internet beef.
How old are you?
-
I've seen both your pictures AND your brother's pictures. You both look bloated not fat. There is a huge difference. Now all of a sudden you have some mysterious friend that gained 50lbs in 6 months. You guys keep downplaying everything. 275lb is not that big......50lbs in 6 months is not that unheard of. No it's not that unheard of to gain 50lbs of fat in 6 months. But it's PRACTICALLY IMPOSSIBLE to turn around and drop that same amount of weight and WALLAH have the same if not more muscle than before. THAT'S THE BULLSHIT IN YOUR CLAIMS! Hell ANYONE can blow up to a fat 350lbs. I'm sure I could eat lard out of a can all day and become a sumo wrestler (not really but you get my point), however to make the dramatic changes in definition with major SWINGS in your physique in such short periods of time is practically unheard of and impossible naturally. Sorry nothing you say, no matter how many mysterious friends you have, will change my mind. I've been around bodybuilding long enough, have known enough people who are on drugs and natural to know the difference.
And what I find funny is NEITHER YOU NOR YOUR BROTHER have yet to post ANY details of your diet or training. I.e. let's see some sample diets of what you ate, let's see what type of workouts you were doing. I can tell you EXACTLY how I train and what I eat right now. If you are so dedicated to your nutrition and training which is required to make those type of gains you shoud be able to give us exact details of what you eat and the methods you use to get into that type of conditioning. Instead all you do is give us broad generalizations of I eat 5-7K a day, I train 3 times a week etc. etc.
That's your problem, you're very weak minded, and set limits.
I don't do that, as I'm sure the two brothers, and a number of other serious lifters on here don't.
So arrogant to think that because YOU can't do it (because of your weak mind), then no one can!!!
-
Does saying "lol" make you feel good?
"monkey" reduced to weak comebacks after being humiliated with the reality that his workouts revolve around a gazelle.
-
lame thread.
Not as boring as your posts. Being on here while criticizing is hypocricy at it's best.
-
Not as boring as your posts.
I'll try to do better for you in the future.
-
Not as boring as your posts. Being on here while criticizing is hypocricy at it's best.
and stop changing your posts after I quote them.
-
and ive explained
you do seem to feel the need to explain yourself... its kind of alarming.
-
That's your problem, you're very weak minded, and set limits.
I don't do that, as I'm sure the two brothers, and a number of other serious lifters on here don't.
So arrogant to think that because YOU can't do it (because of your weak mind), then no one can!!!
VERY WRONG!
the brother the 6'2 brother is HTE ABSOLUT PRIME EXAMPLE OF WHY GH15 IS SO RICH AND LIVING IN A CASTLE IN GERMANY AND ALREADY OWN BUNCH OF YOUR SHITTY SUBURBS BACK IN USA FOR DIMES,,THAT FELLA IS THE PRIME EXAMPLE OF WHAT GOT ME TO HAVE SO MUCH MONEY THAT I DONT KNOW HOW TO WASTE IT ,,
the brother ,,,the way he talks about bringing pussy ,,the way his legs are the size of a female legs meaning hardly work them like the3 average college juicer,,the fact that his delts are so thick and the upper body practiucallu has the thickness that only aas can give and also the water retention that only aas can give,,,you can see it in the side tricep picture friends,,in addition to the fact no 6'2 is no 275 at no 19 years old unless its all in the BELLY and midsection,,all those facts imply on the use of aas in addition ofcourse to the use of fat burners ,,
gh15 is positive this fellas both of them get gear via usps ,,infact we can play a little game since gh15 know all the dealers in wv and virgina since they all my servants,,actually we cant play this little game because they order from wirless or under diff names liek any normal human being ,,thats the beauty of the internet eh fellas?:)
what i could do is cut supplyu to the whole district they live in but then we lose too much money for what? to prove 1 kid that stil thikn they are natural on getbig? ...in the big brother language ..."lol"
by the way lets just hope and pray that fool doesnt get or didnt get ghb powders from china because this is the type of guy that will use it on a girl
-
by the way lets just hope and pray that fool doesnt get or didnt get ghb powders from china because this is the type of guy that will use it on a girl
brutal...
-
lol i thought we were letting this thread go....im starting a video training blog so i can keep better track from now on
look for the installments later on in the week
GH 15 castle in germany lol suppliers and all this bullshit...grow up peter pan, count chocula this isnt halloween call whoever you want, if ive been using for 4 years and had no side effects...acne hair loss, gyno than i must just be the luckiest guy on earth
the reason my upper body so big is cuz i started training at 11yrs old and u wanna take a guess what i loved doin more than anything....squats?>? nope bench press and then curls, and then more bench press lol
this bitch claims to live in a CASTLE in Germany and no one says a word....i get decent results from training and everyone has a shit fit lol this board is too much sometimes
-
lol i thought we were letting this thread go....im starting a video training blog so i can keep better track from now on
look for the installments later on in the week
GH 15 castle in germany lol suppliers and all this bullshit...grow up peter pan, count chocula this isnt halloween call whoever you want, if ive been using for 4 years and had no side effects...acne hair loss, gyno than i must just be the luckiest guy on earth
the reason my upper body so big is cuz i started training at 11yrs old and u wanna take a guess what i loved doin more than anything....squats?>? nope bench press and then curls, and then more bench press lol
this bitch claims to live in a CASTLE in Germany and no one says a word....i get decent results from training and everyone has a shit fit lol this board is too much sometimes
Because the realists here know he is a full of shit gimmick..
Look at his main cheerleader , sevetase...There idiotic rants are word for word the same..
Spermtaster uses more drugs than most pros only to look like a natural trainer and as soon as someone looks better than him he screams DRUGS , the fact is he has shit genetics..
I wouldnt take anything either of those two or the more than one guy running the gh15 account to heart..
You look good mate.
-
What he said^^
U look great ignore the haters
-
Dude there is no WAY IN HELL you were 275lbs at 19 at 6'2. LMAO! Do you realize how fucking big that is? That rivals Arnold and most pro bodybuilders. At 19? Haha keep it coming dude! I don't care what your history is, how good your genetics are, or how big you were or what your arm measurements are. There is no way in hell you go from 275lbs to 225-230 lbs NATURALLY without losing hardly any size. Like I said your "bulking" pics are the poster boy for heavy steroid cycle........bloated, red face etc. Why don't you post other pictures? All you do is keep posting the same old pictures. You obviously should have more pictures than two right? LOL.
Agreed. spot on.
-
lol i thought we were letting this thread go....im starting a video training blog so i can keep better track from now on
look for the installments later on in the week
GH 15 castle in germany lol suppliers and all this bullshit...grow up peter pan, count chocula this isnt halloween call whoever you want, if ive been using for 4 years and had no side effects...acne hair loss, gyno than i must just be the luckiest guy on earth
the reason my upper body so big is cuz i started training at 11yrs old and u wanna take a guess what i loved doin more than anything....squats?>? nope bench press and then curls, and then more bench press lol
this bitch claims to live in a CASTLE in Germany and no one says a word....i get decent results from training and everyone has a shit fit lol this board is too much sometimes
friend,, do you kno who yoe taking to/ do yo have a cue what it is to get me to even pee twards any ones direction?
gh15 is the don corleone of the bodybuilding community and the mere fact i write to you means you stimulated me enough with your lies for me to put aside things and write ,,
now,,to begin with you are NOT BIG,,yore average size for a juicer,,yo size is due to yo height yore a fuckin antena
,,so yes you got some upper body size but oh it lacks in many aspects and if yo werre 5'10 with that weight then we woul have somthing to ta when it comes to yo future as bodybuiler,,so if yo think yo are big then yore insane,,yoe not big in bodybuilding terms ,,,big is 220-230 5'10 thatas big
now,,go to the mirror and take a look at your face,,,look closely and wear a shirt so yo can concentrate on yo face,,,now go look at my face ,,,jay face,,,marcus face,,milos face,,bobbys face,,dsorian face,,rich face,,then look back at your face ,,,yo are lookgin at a face described by most people as DOWN SYNDROM FACE,,we all have it ,,ots part of aas ,,ofcorse yoe very yong and a beggiiner,,but we al have it to a degree and yo are right therer with us,,you got that down syndrom face ,,the beggining stages of it ,,,its like pulabomizm but for the face and even when lean yo can see it because its due to blood pressure and usa of specific compund called FINA and testosterone and when it comes to ora lits called dianabol and anapolon,,yo can get this face to a lesser degree from pure anabolics with very low andogenic activity but yo belong right there with us trust gh15 on that,,
now...jason has hair...he has umm nice skin ....and he got multiple injects every day of mega doses yet still have hair,,,so yes he uses lots of gh and it helps skin and helps hair and al that and its one of the secrets to better growth of hair,,but if yo tke a look at him in the past he still didnt have side effects frmo aas,,,some guys have and some dont ,,some guys take action and use anti products and some dont need it ,,,some get bitch tits and some dont....yore the tyoe of guy by the way that will be on arimidex or letrozole becausse yo want to be known as natura l so you wont even take the chance thus will nevr be truly big but thats a diff story
in any case,,,natural never have big delts NEVER EVER and if they have big delts they are always wide but not thick! yo need to realy relax what yo are doing is ruin it for others by giving false hope
now lstly my castles or hoses or homes dont mater to you and shoulnt matter to yo the only thing i said it for is to make you uerstand that fellas like you made me so rich to a ppoint i can sit and eat sushi for my 6 daiuly meals util the day i die and still have money for my kids to not have to work
-
Because the realists here know he is a full of shit gimmick..
Look at his main cheerleader , sevetase...There idiotic rants are word for word the same..
Spermtaster uses more drugs than most pros only to look like a natural trainer and as soon as someone looks better than him he screams DRUGS , the fact is he has shit genetics..
I wouldnt take anything either of those two or the more than one guy running the gh15 account to heart..
You look good mate.
if you have any guts what so ever post a real picture of you or let gh15 know your real lname ,,,you are a drug dealer ,,one that i want down bad,,,i will give anything to get thie fella name and information abotu him fellas ,,and that means lots of hormones free of charge,,i do kno will grant is on us grounds and will grant be sure abotu one thing ,,when i get to know who you are yor 100 fat kilograms will not be able to do bodybuilding any more,,,and trust me you made the mistake and gave info about yourself that gh15 can get and will get,,the connections on the other boards will be made,,and then yo gonna get fucked with authorities,,this will be in the news papers and i will make sure every one knows it was you just because yore thr type of fella id shoot in the head from 1 meter with no remors
-
LOLOLOLOL this is too much man GH15 melting down over me...im honored go peddle your tic tacs somewhere else
this body was built with 100% bee pollen bitch
what you mean "real picture" ive posted literally dozens of pics
-
LOLOLOLOL this is too much man GH15 melting down over me...im honored go peddle your tic tacs somewhere else
this body was built with 100% bee pollen bitch
what you mean "real picture" ive posted literally dozens of pics
read better my broken english im sure yo can ,,,second post was for the dealer ,,his real picutre,,i want will grant the guy behind this name i want him down not only down but down and hurt,,that guy will go down promise yo ugrant
-
Looking Good!
Did you use PlazMosis?
-
im gettin confused on what is gettin argued here
some think i lied about using roids
some dont think i weighed 275
i cant keep all these accusations straight
im still trying to figure out why anyone even gives a shit...
-
I don't understand why this thread is 16 pages..
either way people's mind will not be changed..he said that he doesn't use, those that believe will him to continue to do so, and those that don't won't settle for anything less than a full confession
why the wall and his brother even bother's to respond is beyond me.
99% of juicers that can someone what pass for a natty will always claim a natural status
75% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
we might be better off if he posted pics of the college hot sluts that the claims to be knocking down. That to me is the more interesting discussion.
dude is 22, build like a tank, living the college life and knocking down hoes..who cares if he "dabbles" on the dark side or not?
-
we might be better off if he posted pics of the college hot sluts that the claims to be knocking down. That to me is the more interesting discussion.
I agree.. that would de-lame this thread.
-
at first getbig was cool when i started reading it a few years ago. the people on here actually seemed to lift. but then the board has somehow turned into mostly critics of bbing instead of actual bb's.
everyone on getbig is "desparate" to nail someone on their pics, or notice "Brutal" books in the background....which is all fun and good at times, but basically, thats all it is anymore. there are no real bb's hardly left on the site. just people who are too scared to post pics b/c they know it will be owning time when they do. what fun is a bbing board where people wont post pics?
i think sevastes is not a great bb for being on roids, but he at least post pics, so does adonis, and some other brave souls. the rest of getbig is made up of the fat and skinny people who dont even bother lifting, but think they are experts on training, nutrition, drugs, etc. oh, and experts on telling others it is impossible they achieved anything naturally b/c they know that it cant be done.
how many of these experts post on here for thousands and thousands of posts and claim to KNOW all these things, but yet wont post a single pic. perhaps these doctors should take their own medicine and prove that what they say works by posting pics before telling others what can and cant be done. those of us who have posted pics have already DONE It, and given proof that it can be done.
let it go.
-
Oh brother 20lbs in two weeks? You think we are all dumbfucks don't you? Where is your friend going to get 20lbs of "water weight" loss in two weeks? You are retarded simplyHuge. 20lbs in two weeks? Even if it is water no one drops 20lbs of water in two weeks naturally unless they use lasix. It's impossible. ::) Most guys don't even lose that much water weight when they come off a hardcore test and dbol cycle. LMAO! That's what I'm saying your statistics don't back up your claims.
-
if you have any guts what so ever post a real picture of you or let gh15 know your real lname ,,,you are a drug dealer ,,one that i want down bad,,,i will give anything to get thie fella name and information abotu him fellas ,,and that means lots of hormones free of charge,,i do kno will grant is on us grounds and will grant be sure abotu one thing ,,when i get to know who you are yor 100 fat kilograms will not be able to do bodybuilding any more,,,and trust me you made the mistake and gave info about yourself that gh15 can get and will get,,the connections on the other boards will be made,,and then yo gonna get fucked with authorities,,this will be in the news papers and i will make sure every one knows it was you just because yore thr type of fella id shoot in the head from 1 meter with no remors
You first dick head lol..
God you are getting more pathetic with every post lol..
hahaha US grounds am I ;D Im a drug dealer am I , you just admitted being a drug dealer your self cokface..
VERY WRONG!
the brother the 6'2 brother is HTE ABSOLUT PRIME EXAMPLE OF WHY GH15 IS SO RICH AND LIVING IN A CASTLE IN GERMANY AND ALREADY OWN BUNCH OF YOUR SHITTY SUBURBS BACK IN USA FOR DIMES,,THAT FELLA IS THE PRIME EXAMPLE OF WHAT GOT ME TO HAVE SO MUCH MONEY THAT I DONT KNOW HOW TO WASTE IT ,,
gh15 is positive this fellas both of them get gear via usps ,,infact we can play a little game since gh15 know all the dealers in wv and virgina since they all my servants,,actually we cant play this little game because they order from wirless or under diff names liek any normal human being ,,thats the beauty of the internet eh fellas?:)
what i could do is cut supplyu to the whole district they live in but then we lose too much money for what? to prove 1 kid that stil thikn they are natural on getbig? ...in the big brother language ..."lol"
-
read better my broken english im sure yo can ,,,second post was for the dealer ,,his real picutre,,i want will grant the guy behind this name i want him down not only down but down and hurt,,that guy will go down promise yo ugrant
;D
You really are getting obbsesive like spermtaster , maybe FatPanda was right , you are idiotic like him..
Oh yeah
-
;D
You really are getting obbsesive like spermtaster , maybe FatPanda was right , you are idiotic like him..
Oh yeah
what do you mean 'MAYBE' ;D
-
I have no idea what's going on in this thread, but it seems popular, so I thought I should post. Post.
-
it wasnt all water weight jackass. i said part of it was water weight because of a ketogenic diet. when you first go on a ketogenic diet it causes some water weight loss, so i was wanting to make it clear it was not 20 lbs of fat in 2 weeks. it was mix of fat and water.
you know nothing. less than nothing. and your posts only accentuate that fact.
Haha reread my post dumbshit. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt that most of it WAS water. That's more believable than being a mix of fat and water. Even on a keto diet you don't lose 20lbs of water and fat in 2 weeks dipshit. It takes several days for your body to even get into ketosis after you reduce your body's glycogen stores. Give it up! You and your brother don't know shit about diet and training. I mean for fuck's sake he thought aspirin in an ECA stack was taken for muscle soreness. LMAO! No one fucking takes caffeine and aspirin WITHOUT ephedrine. That's retarded. It's the three altogether that creates the synergy.
-
PIC OR IT DIDNT HAPPEN
So you honestly are saying that it's possible to lose 20lbs of "fat and water mix" in 2 weeks i.e. 14 days on a ketogenic diet? Is that what you're saying? Naturally of course? LMAO! Wow! You've got balls!
-
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/DSCN0011.jpg)
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/DSCN0280-2.jpg)
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/DSCN0017.jpg)
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/DSCN0262.jpg)
I didn't know you were a Mexican. Are you legal? ???
-
It is, but I believe they've found a cure for it in the venom of the brown recluse spider.
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH AH
-
Oh brother 20lbs in two weeks? You think we are all dumbfucks don't you? Where is your friend going to get 20lbs of "water weight" loss in two weeks? You are retarded simplyHuge. 20lbs in two weeks? Even if it is water no one drops 20lbs of water in two weeks naturally unless they use lasix. It's impossible. ::) Most guys don't even lose that much water weight when they come off a hardcore test and dbol cycle. LMAO! That's what I'm saying your statistics don't back up your claims.
losing 20 pounds in 2 weeks is very doable tons of cardio+plus sweat box + limit your self to 3 small meals a day , almost any one can do that
-
losing 20 pounds in 2 weeks is very doable tons of cardio+plus sweat box + limit your self to 3 small meals a day , almost any one can do that
::) You're an idiot. It takes the body several days to get into ketosis in the first place. It's not very doable to lose 20lbs worth of fat (water+fat, whatever) in two weeks. Sorry you have no fucking clue what you're talking about. If it was so fucking easy then why do so many bodybuilders diet so fucking hard to lose weight? I mean what's the point of contest prepping for 8+ weeks if it's so fucking easy to drop 20lbs in two weeks? LOL. That means in 8 weeks a bodybuilder could lose 80lbs? So let me ask you something genius how easy is it to gain 20lbs of muscle. I'd love to hear your opinion on this. Say I want to gain 5 lbs of muscle? How long in your expert opinion would it take to gain that? Probably just a couple of weeks huh? You retards throw around poundages that aren't even very attainable for a steroid using bodybuilder, let alone a natural.
-
I agree with McMannus on a this:
1.) There is no fucking way that the second brother is 275 and 235 in those pics.....240 and 220 looks about right. That said, the dude looks great, so there is nothing to be ashamed about.
Both brothers looks good, they just need to remember to tone down the bullshit claims.
-
I didn't know you were a Mexican. Are you legal? ???
hahaha
I have no idea what's going on in this thread, but it seems popular, so I thought I should post.
Excellent
I agree with McMannus on a this:
1.) There is no fucking way that the second brother is 275 and 235 in those pics.....240 and 220 looks about right. That said, the dude looks great, so there is nothing to be ashamed about.
Both brothers looks good, they just need to remember to tone down the bullshit claims.
If "body" knew half as much as he thinks he does his posts would be more interesting than the pompous drivel he comes out with. The problem with this clown is that he's entirely smitten by his own sense of importance and judgements on others lol feel free to come on down off that soapbox one of these days pal you really have no clue-WTF do you know about BB when you're always posting on the sports board.
-
im not just saying it. ive seen it done. its more than possible b/c it has been done. as you get closer to you're lean body weight the weight loss slows, but when you are very overweight and start a very strict diet with exercise its very common to see these types of numbers within the first two weeks and even greater numbers for the first month. as the person gets closer and closer to their lean weight the progress slows and more drastic measures are needed like watching calories + low carbs, etc.
if you have ever done a strict keto diet you would know these things instead of just assuming that i'm wrong. ive been there and done it. so i have a little first hand knowledge on the subject. ive also helped a lot of friends get started on the diet. some succeeded b/c they stuck with it, while others, like the two brothers that lost 20 lbs did not succeed b/c they quit after their wives came to visit.
you dont believe anything....
first its "they use steroids"
then its "he wasnt 275"
then its "you cant pick up girls"
then its "you cant lose that much weight that fast"
no matter what is said you want to try to say its a lie. im giving real life examples that ive personally seen. ive been posting pics. all youve done is just state your own small opinion as loudly as you can to try to prove you are right with no pics, life experience, etc. you can only assume you cant lose weight fast b/c you've never done it. you can only assume you cant gain weight fast b/c youve never done. and you can only assume we took drugs b/c youve never looked 1/4 as good as we do in those pics. its all bullshit assumptions. maybe you could have some success if you quit watching other people do it and tried to step up to the plate yourself. maybe you could step back and take some advice and maybe you would see some results.
and you try to "rope" others into it by saying things like "we all know" and "we this..." etc. trying to insinuate that everyone else is of the same opinion as you. its ridiculous dude.
Ok so lets say I came to you and asked you for some advice. I'd like to drop 20lbs of water/fat in two weeks. Post what type of diet and exercise routine you'd put me on? I asked you and your brother to post your diets and your workout routines, hell let's see you post what you're doing now. What do you eat day in and day out? What does your training look like?
Here's what I ate today as part of my carb up refeed before tomorrow when I go back to high fat/low carbs/high protein
Sunday
6 whole eggs
2 cups of oatmeal with milk and butter
tomato
glass of oj
quart of raw milk
Lunch
1/2 lb of top sirloin cubed with sweet onion and olive oil
2 cups of rice
asparagus
quart of raw milk
Snack
1 cup of cottage cheese
1/2 cup of raisins
slice of raw cheese
quart of raw milk
Dinner
1 lb of top sirloin
2 cups of rice
steamed red bell peppers
quart of raw milk
Snack
4oz of raw cream
2 raw eggs
2 tsp of peanut butter
1 cup of oatmeal
Then tomorrow I'll drop back down to zero carbs. That's my diet for one day. I'd like to for you to post a snippet of your diet.
-
hahaha
Excellent
If "body" knew half as much as he thinks he does his posts would be more interesting. The problem with this clown is that he's entirely smitten by his own sense of importance and judgements on others lol come on down off that soapbox one of these days pal you really have no clue-WTF do you know about BB posting on the sports board?
Shut the fuck up Mr. Bowflex bodybuilder. You're probably a fat tubby slob who lives off pizza and lives with his mother. I have no sense of importance. I give props left and right to people on this board. And I contribute to just about EVERY major forum here......i.e. gossip, politics, steroid, nutrition, sex, etc. I'm a very well rounded individual :) LMAO!
-
This thread is great!
-
Shut the fuck up Mr. Bowflex bodybuilder. You're probably a fat tubby slob who lives off pizza and lives with his mother. I have no sense of importance. I give props left and right to people on this board. And I contribute to just about EVERY major forum here......i.e. gossip, politics, steroid, nutrition, sex, etc. I'm a very well rounded individual :) LMAO!
Calm down kid, so far you're losing since he's posted a pic and we have absolutely nothing showing your sorry fatass and skinny arms. :D
Hope this helps.
-
i wish we didnt make so much money on bunch of stupid americans in eastern usa because i swear to god id close that east cost just to show you friend how those 2 brothers shrink into their buck 50 and buck 90 or get up to 20-25% inorder to keep that size they achieved with OUR HELP
too much money ,,we got bunch of american losers buying daily ,,you wont fuckin belivee how much they buy l,,,they cant fuckin feed their own families have no job their economy looks like a nigirian asshole,thjeir president is a failure ,,,their money market as i promised went down to 6000 and they still think about their look,,,we still got fellas ordering 5-10k worth of orders on a weekly basis
also 'wil grant',,before you answer the following comment read it carefully and think,,,in 2002 i had a fella like you about 100 kilogram of fat and redness trying to tell me what i know and dont know,,he laughed like you ,,,he acted like you ,,he had the same arrogance you have but he actually was a bodybuilder not only dealer and wanna be bodybuilder,,,that fella continued to thnk he was invinsible ....he was very much big mouth like you and full of humor,,he laughed at fellas like that sevastes from romania in real life even though those fellas owned him like you love to say here with their words ,,he still thought he was the shit ,,big big mouth about 240 you know where you are stuck at and cant advance,,he also coudnt advance and seeked my help,,but again he was big mouth to everyone and did his drug dealing in a very not smart way ,,i had enough of him in 2006
in 2007 he died in his sleep.
the internet get you a good cover to spit shit will grant ,,but you dont want to mess with me i promise you that it is not gimmick nothing,,you dont want me to look into you,,you just dont
take the little bit of pride you have and stop right there any communications with gh15 ,,you wont because as i said in my story you are just like him,,i wont add more
-
Calm down kid, so far you're losing since he's posted a pic and we have absolutely nothing showing your sorry fatass and skinny arms. :D
Hope this helps.
Where's your pic tube socks?
-
i wish we didnt make so much money on bunch of stupid americans in eastern usa because i swear to god id close that east cost just to show you friend how those 2 brothers shrink into their buck 50 and buck 90 or get up to 20-25% inorder to keep that size they achieved with OUR HELP
too much money ,,we got bunch of american losers buying daily ,,you wont fuckin belivee how much they buy l,,,they cant fuckin feed their own families have no job their economy looks like a nigirian asshole,thjeir president is a failure ,,,their money market as i promised went down to 6000 and they still think about their look,,,we still got fellas ordering 5-10k worth of orders on a weekly basis
also 'wil grant',,before you answer the following comment read it carefully and think,,,in 2002 i had a fella like you about 100 kilogram of fat and redness trying to tell me what i know and dont know,,he laughed like you ,,,he acted like you ,,he had the same arrogance you have but he actually was a bodybuilder not only dealer and wanna be bodybuilder,,,that fella continued to thnk he was invinsible ....he was very much big mouth like you and full of humor,,he laughed at fellas like that sevastes from romania in real life even though those fellas owned him like you love to say here with their words ,,he still thought he was the shit ,,big big mouth about 240 you know where you are stuck at and cant advance,,he also coudnt advance and seeked my help,,but again he was big mouth to everyone and did his drug dealing in a very not smart way ,,i had enough of him in 2006
in 2007 he died in his sleep.
the internet get you a good cover to spit shit will grant ,,but you dont want to mess with me i promise you that it is not gimmick nothing,,you dont want me to look into you,,you just dont
take the little bit of pride you have and stop right there any communications with gh15 ,,you wont because as i said in my story you are just like him,,i wont add more
BAHAHAHAHA What a fukin loser .. ;D
-
::) You're an idiot. It takes the body several days to get into ketosis in the first place. It's not very doable to lose 20lbs worth of fat (water+fat, whatever) in two weeks. Sorry you have no fucking clue what you're talking about. If it was so fucking easy then why do so many bodybuilders diet so fucking hard to lose weight? I mean what's the point of contest prepping for 8+ weeks if it's so fucking easy to drop 20lbs in two weeks? LOL. That means in 8 weeks a bodybuilder could lose 80lbs? So let me ask you something genius how easy is it to gain 20lbs of muscle. I'd love to hear your opinion on this. Say I want to gain 5 lbs of muscle? How long in your expert opinion would it take to gain that? Probably just a couple of weeks huh? You retards throw around poundages that aren't even very attainable for a steroid using bodybuilder, let alone a natural.
woah, relax i have been able to cut 20 pounds in 2 weeks , athletes who have to make weight do it all the time , all with out ketosis and why are you calling me a retard , i don't agree with any thing the wall and the other guy are saying and i agree with you for the most part , I'm just saying its doable to cut 20 pounds in 2 weeks and i can put all the weight back on in a couple of days , amateur boxers and wrestlers do this all the time bro , go to any collage and you will be able to meet at least a dozen guys who have done this , no need for you to get all fired up
to answer your question , for a natural it would take years to ad 20 pounds of lean muscle with out drugs , but cutting water and fat can be done very quickly if you dehydrate your self :-*
-
I don't understand why this thread is 16 pages..
either way people's mind will not be changed..he said that he doesn't use, those that believe will him to continue to do so, and those that don't won't settle for anything less than a full confession
why the wall and his brother even bother's to respond is beyond me.
99% of juicers that can someone what pass for a natty will always claim a natural status
75% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
we might be better off if he posted pics of the college hot sluts that the claims to be knocking down. That to me is the more interesting discussion.
dude is 22, build like a tank, living the college life and knocking down hoes..who cares if he "dabbles" on the dark side or not?
hahaha
-
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t224/SimplyHuge/dietjournal-1.jpg)
here's an example of the diet journal ive used in the past. you only have to fill in the # of the food you ate, and then teh QTY, and it autofills the description, cals, carbs, fat, protein for that food at that given qty. you can add more items to the box at the top to choose from. it will work for up to 29 items. You can add days by following the micro function which is explained inthe top right.
i created this, along with workout journals that autocalc ur max for each exercise, highlight new PR's automatically, and a variety of other things.
so, yes, we do take the time to keep track of things. i dont keep very good track while bulking though. i just eat a lot and try to avoid junk foods. when dieting thoguh, it takes more precision, so i buckle down and start keeping track. and ive explained the diet portion early in this thread of the approach i took.
Great job tracking your diet, Mike. Stick around, looks like you can hang with the big guns here on Getbig.
-
these are not bullshit claims. i weighed about 215-220 in my photo. my brother is 6'2 and im 5'9. you really think he only weighed 20 more lbs than me in those photos? i will find pics when i travel back home of him with other people when he was at that weight, so you can see it in perspective. its not very unbelieveable at all when you consider his height
as fat as he was in those photos i still find it hard to believe so many people question the facts.
Why are you explaining yourselves to these knuckleheads?
"Gear!" is the best compliment a natural can get. I used to hear that shit all the time, always from dudes who started training and using on the same day. They figure anyone making gains does it that way. Fuck it, I'd just tell 'em what they wanted to hear.
-
Shut the fuck up Mr. Bowflex bodybuilder. You're probably a fat tubby slob who lives off pizza and lives with his mother. I have no sense of importance. I give props left and right to people on this board. And I contribute to just about EVERY major forum here......i.e. gossip, politics, steroid, nutrition, sex, etc. I'm a very well rounded individual :) LMAO!
Oh my God, you're still talking??
Give it up man. Seriously.
-
woah, relax i have been able to cut 20 pounds in 2 weeks , athletes who have to make weight do it all the time , all with out ketosis and why are you calling me a retard , i don't agree with any thing the wall and the other guy are saying and i agree with you for the most part , I'm just saying its doable to cut 20 pounds in 2 weeks and i can put all the weight back on in a couple of days , amateur boxers and wrestlers do this all the time bro , go to any collage and you will be able to meet at least a dozen guys who have done this , no need for you to get all fired up
to answer your question , for a natural it would take years to ad 20 pounds of lean muscle with out drugs , but cutting water and fat can be done very quickly if you dehydrate your self :-*
So now you're saying if one dehyrdates themselves they can cut water and fat? There is nothing about dehydration that would lead the human body to burn fat. You could argue someone can lose 20lbs of water weight in 2 weeks running around in a rubber suit and starving themselves sure. But we are talking about bodybuilding not some wrestler trying to make weight. I don't know any bodybuilder that diets for 2 weeks and loses 20lbs of anything. That's my point. You say cutting water and fat can be done very quickly if you dehydrate yourself. That's just not true. If you said water ok. But you say water AND FAT. Cutting fat is not easily done in two weeks, especially for a bodybuilder. I mean my god most bodybuilders cut for 12-16 weeks or more. If it was so easy as you guys say why would contest prep be so damn important?
SimplyHuge I was more interested in the diet you used in your before and after pics.
-
its on my desktop at my house. i can get when i travel home here shortly. you see, i have proof of all of my claims. and i kept records. the diet was explained in this thread several times already, but i can past different days or weeks to show you the exact foods I ate at the time.
and yes 20 lbs of fat and water is very possible in 2 weeks. you can holler as loud as you want, but plenty of people have done it. if you are very overweight, you usually lose weight very fast at the beginning. i dont know how many times i need to explain it. these guys were not bb's and were not trying to conserve muscle etc. they just wanted to lose weight, and they did, at least until they quit the diet.
now its YOUR TURN. back up some of YOUR POSTS. post a pic of before you took steroids, and hten post a pic after taking steroids. PROVE what you you've been saying.
Not a chance buddy! LMAO! Only an idiot would post his pics on getbig. A few months from now if someone doesn't agree with you your pics will be photoshopped into some gay homo orgy that will live on in the internet infamy! I have nothing to prove. I'm 6'5 250 lbs and growing. Bottomline your brother was NEVER 275lbs. :) See ya!
-
you're a liar. and a pathetic one at that. you complain about us "claiming" things, yet we back it up with pics and info, yet you make outrageous claims and have ZERO proof.
you're diet looks copied and pasted off the internet. what utter bullshit you've been spitting out this whole thread.
and you want us to listen to you after saying this is the food you had yesterday? ::)
what a joke. if anyone has been lying in this thread its YOU.
hahahhaa, i agree, no fuccking way he eats that.
-
hahahhaa, i agree, no fuccking way he eats that.
are u implying that our internet millionaire musclemcANUS isnt a D1 college athlete at 6'5 250 lbs spending close to 20 dollars a day on food QO
who are you to doubt his claims when he has given us his bestest best promise that hes really "big in real life"
;D
-
Haha you guys are fucking IDIOTS! I'd love for you to find ONE fucking bodybuilding diet on the internet that incorporates RAW MILK and so much dairy. QuakerOats you don't know fuck all about bodybuilding or dieting or nutrition if you think no one can eat that much food. I regularly eat one pound of RAW MEAT a day dipshit! I also eat upwards of a gallon of raw milk every few days. And Saturday and Sundays are my refeed days moron! Haha you guys have no clue what it takes to put on size naturally if you think you can't eat that much food in one day. That is just a snippet of my diet. Today so far I've eaten the following:
Breakfast:
8oz of raw cream (10.99 at Mothers Market)
Tomato
1/4 lb of raw top sirloin from Whole Foods (12.99 lb)
Lunch:
1 cup of steamed cabbage
quart of raw milk (6.99 a gallon at Mothers Market)
1/4 lb of raw top sirloin with onion, olive oil and seasoning
Snack
2 tblspoons of peanut butter
3 celery sticks
slice of raw cheese (Organic Farms brand or Organic Pastures brand both found at Mothers Market)
See Quaker what you and the other fucktards fail to realize is I live in California where raw milk is legal and you can buy it in the stores. Haha oh brother. You guys are funny! And Yes I spend a shitload of money on food. BUT I also don't use any supplements or protein powders which most guys spend a couple hundred bucks on a month.
-
Haha you guys are fucking IDIOTS! I'd love for you to find ONE fucking bodybuilding diet on the internet that incorporates RAW MILK and so much dairy. QuakerOats you don't know fuck all about bodybuilding or dieting or nutrition if you think no one can eat that much food. I regularly eat one pound of RAW MEAT a day dipshit! I also eat upwards of a gallon of raw milk every few days. And Saturday and Sundays are my refeed days moron! Haha you guys have no clue what it takes to put on size naturally if you think you can't eat that much food in one day. That is just a snippet of my diet. Today so far I've eaten the following:
Breakfast:
8oz of raw cream (10.99 at Mothers Market)
Tomato
1/4 lb of raw top sirloin from Whole Foods (12.99 lb)
Lunch:
1 cup of steamed cabbage
quart of raw milk (6.99 a gallon at Mothers Market)
1/4 lb of raw top sirloin with onion, olive oil and seasoning
Snack
2 tblspoons of peanut butter
3 celery sticks
slice of raw cheese (Organic Farms brand or Organic Pastures brand both found at Mothers Market)
See Quaker what you and the other fucktards fail to realize is I live in California where raw milk is legal and you can buy it in the stores. Haha oh brother. You guys are funny! And Yes I spend a shitload of money on food. BUT I also don't use any supplements or protein powders which most guys spend a couple hundred bucks on a month.
You eat RAW meat?
-
You eat RAW meat?
Yes. I eat raw beef, raw eggs, and raw ahi tuna. Raw ahi tuna is amazing!!!!!!!!!! It melts in your mouth. But it's like $20/lb. Very expensive. All my meat is usually from Whole Foods. I.e. one of the few places you can find fresh grass fed beef and organic beef. There are tons of bodybuilders in the decades past that drank raw milk and ate raw meat. Armand Tanny, Jack LaLanne, etc. Armand Tanny tells of a story when he was on a trip somewhere and went to the store and bought a raw steak and sat down on a park bench and was eating bits and pieces of his raw stake next to an old lady. She looked at him like he was crazy. LOL. Funny story and it's in a new book called Muscle, Smoke and Mirrors. DougOfSteele (member on here) can verify it as he is reading the same book as well.
-
I guess I got this picture off the internet too? LMAO!
-
apparently you can't read. no one said its a LOT of food. It's not a lot of food. its just the types of foods listed that makes it very ubelievable. basically we know you are full of shit. keep trying though. throughout this thread you are losing credibility by each post.
if you such a knowledgable guru on bbing, post your pic.
::) Keep eating your cheese steaks kid! If you trained naturally you'd never make the gains you claim with your shitty diet.
-
apparently you can't read. no one said its a LOT of food. It's not a lot of food. its just the types of foods listed that makes it very ubelievable. basically we know you are full of shit. keep trying though. throughout this thread you are losing credibility by each post.
if you such a knowledgable guru on bbing, post your pic.
I never claimed to be a guru on BBing. Far from it. But I will say I do have a pretty good grasp on no nonsense no bullshit nutrition. And you aint gonna look like a lifetime natural bodybuilder eating cheesteaks. :)
-
Yes. I eat raw beef, raw eggs, and raw ahi tuna. Raw ahi tuna is amazing!!!!!!!!!! It melts in your mouth. But it's like $20/lb. Very expensive. All my meat is usually from Whole Foods. I.e. one of the few places you can find fresh grass fed beef and organic beef. There are tons of bodybuilders in the decades past that drank raw milk and ate raw meat. Armand Tanny, Jack LaLanne, etc. Armand Tanny tells of a story when he was on a trip somewhere and went to the store and bought a raw steak and sat down on a park bench and was eating bits and pieces of his raw stake next to an old lady. She looked at him like he was crazy. LOL. Funny story and it's in a new book called Muscle, Smoke and Mirrors. DougOfSteele (member on here) can verify it as he is reading the same book as well.
Impressive, you're a beast. Does it taste nasty?
-
Impressive, you're a beast. Does it taste nasty?
In all honesty bro it's delicious. My palate has adapted to the point where I actually don't like the taste of cooked meat. I chop up top sirloin add some seasoned salt, olive oil and chopped sweet onion and it's seriously really good and easy. I also use a recipe with raw honey and coleman's mustard. Heat up the honey in a double broiler and add in the mustard. Mix it in the with the chopped meat damn it's good. Also avacado and raw meat goes together really well. Especially ground beef but I don't like ground beef as much as steak. But for raw ahi tuna I melt some raw better drop in the chunks of raw tuna and then let the raw butter solidify around the tuna and then eat it. TASTY AS HELL! Melts in your mouth. Raw food does take some getting used to but once you get over the psycological barriers it becomes second nature. Raw eggs definitely take some getting used to.
-
Haha you guys are fucking IDIOTS! I'd love for you to find ONE fucking bodybuilding diet on the internet that incorporates RAW MILK and so much dairy. QuakerOats you don't know fuck all about bodybuilding or dieting or nutrition if you think no one can eat that much food. I regularly eat one pound of RAW MEAT a day dipshit! I also eat upwards of a gallon of raw milk every few days. And Saturday and Sundays are my refeed days moron! Haha you guys have no clue what it takes to put on size naturally if you think you can't eat that much food in one day. That is just a snippet of my diet. Today so far I've eaten the following:
Breakfast:
8oz of raw cream (10.99 at Mothers Market)
Tomato
1/4 lb of raw top sirloin from Whole Foods (12.99 lb)
Lunch:
1 cup of steamed cabbage
quart of raw milk (6.99 a gallon at Mothers Market)
1/4 lb of raw top sirloin with onion, olive oil and seasoning
Snack
2 tblspoons of peanut butter
3 celery sticks
slice of raw cheese (Organic Farms brand or Organic Pastures brand both found at Mothers Market)
See Quaker what you and the other fucktards fail to realize is I live in California where raw milk is legal and you can buy it in the stores. Haha oh brother. You guys are funny! And Yes I spend a shitload of money on food. BUT I also don't use any supplements or protein powders which most guys spend a couple hundred bucks on a month.
hahahaa, lying about raw food meltdown. ;D
-
Does anyone else see some retardedness in this post. There is a reason you don't eat ground beef raw. It has been exposed to air, and thus has bacteria. Steak can be eaten rare if it is cooked quickly on the outside to get the parts exposed to air.
Oh brother?????????? You are clueless. Don't even get me started on this post. I'VE EATEN RAW FOOD FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS INCLUDING RAW BEEF! Grass fed raw ground beef is perfectly fine and will not make you sick.
-
hahahaa, lying about raw food meltdown. ;D
Haha why would I lie about raw food? You're an idiot.
www.organicpastures.com
-
Does anyone else see some retardedness in this post. There is a reason you don't eat ground beef raw. It has been exposed to air, and thus has bacteria. Steak can be eaten rare if it is cooked quickly on the outside to get the parts exposed to air.
that plus it gets exposed to the meat grinder.
-
that plus it gets exposed to the meat grinder.
Haha. Keep going I'm enjoying this. Like I said you jokers can believe anything you want. I've actually EATEN raw meat including raw hamburger for the last two years. I have 2-3 raw eggs after every workout. Never been sick.
-
Haha. Keep going I'm enjoying this. Like I said you jokers can believe anything you want. I've actually EATEN raw meat including raw hamburger for the last two years. I have 2-3 raw eggs after every workout. Never been sick.
it's your life, do what you you want.
-
even if you could i don't know why you'd WANT to, have you ever smelled raw meat? it smells disgusting. :-X
-
it's your life, do what you you want.
Thanks I will :) And you should actually do the research before you make comments on a topic you have no clue about. Why don't you start with this website.......www.wewant 2live.com Pick up his book The Recipe for Living Without Disease. And like I said Armand Tanny was a great bodybuilder and so was Jack Lalanne. Both were big raw beef eaters when they were younger in their muscle beaach days. And Tanny is well into his 80's. Gironda was also big time raw foodist, espeically eggs.
-
even if you could i don't know why you'd WANT to, have you ever smelled raw meat? it smells disgusting. :-X
I'm being sincere when I answer these questions........but yes I agree. Two years ago I would have told you the same thing. You're fucking crazy. 4 years ago I never though I'd be drinking raw milk. And never looked into it. I suggest you pick up a the book Muscle, Smoke, and Mirrors and The Recipe For Living Without Disease before you dismiss it. I don't just eat a raw diet (not all my diet is raw don't get me wrong, and I enjoy normal foods all the time) for bodybuilding purposes but for health purposes as well.
And to answer your question SimplyHuge no I personally don't eat raw chicken but I know many people, several bodybuilders that do. I can tell you right now that there is a natural bodybuilder who is under the instruction of a raw foodist and he's making some of the best gains and has felt better than he ever has. I forget his name. But I'll find out.
Our society has been completely brainwashed when it comes to food. We been brainwashed into believe we have to sterilize our food to death, to the point where it's almost degenerative. Just look at how pasteurization destroys milk. Anyways, I could go on and on but in most people's minds they are made up and aren't even OPEN to researching the subject for themselves.
-
^^^^ Keep your pics to yourself, your physique is unimpressive.
-
^^^^ Keep your pics to yourself, your physique is unimpressive.
Why is it unimpressive? The kid is a young guy in college. Thats the perfect pussy pulling physique right there. Let me guess, he has to be 300 lbs of disgusting gh muscle to be impressive? Cut the dude some slack man....look at half the physiques that are posted on this board.
Just saying.
-
Why is it unimpressive? The kid is a young guy in college. Thats the perfect pussy pulling physique right there. Let me guess, he has to be 300 lbs of disgusting gh muscle to be impressive? Cut the dude some slack man....look at half the physiques that are posted on this board.
Just saying.
Just saying nothing special. Looks average at best for a beginner.
-
Just saying nothing special. Looks average at best for a beginner.
He looks pretty good to me for his stage in the game. I am infact only 200 lbs so I dont know shit about being huge.
-
get on steroids immediately.
-
In all honesty bro it's delicious. My palate has adapted to the point where I actually don't like the taste of cooked meat. I chop up top sirloin add some seasoned salt, olive oil and chopped sweet onion and it's seriously really good and easy. I also use a recipe with raw honey and coleman's mustard. Heat up the honey in a double broiler and add in the mustard. Mix it in the with the chopped meat damn it's good. Also avacado and raw meat goes together really well. Especially ground beef but I don't like ground beef as much as steak. But for raw ahi tuna I melt some raw better drop in the chunks of raw tuna and then let the raw butter solidify around the tuna and then eat it. TASTY AS HELL! Melts in your mouth. Raw food does take some getting used to but once you get over the psycological barriers it becomes second nature. Raw eggs definitely take some getting used to.
1) You're still a douche. You claim 6'5" and 250......nice try fatty. How long ago did you say you were down to 230? As far as photoshopping....simply do it from the neck down. No one has to see your face. Only caveat is that you have something PROVING its you. Of course you wont and will continue to make the claims you do....and I will continue to call bullshit.
2) I can agree with you on the ahi. I take spinach, feta cheese, cube up my ahi and spinkle some balsamic vinaigrette (newmans) as well as some diced tomatoes. LOVE IT. The expensive ahi does melt in your mouth. I like it better VERY chilled prior to eating.
-
^^^^ Keep your pics to yourself, your physique is unimpressive.
Ah, the traditional Getbig welcome.
;D
-
He looks pretty good to me for his stage in the game. I am infact only 200 lbs so I dont know shit about being huge.
no shit :D
-
get on steroids immediately.
he was already on them,,
this is what we call in bodybuilding a bordering physiqe,,
new definition so take pen and paper and copy friends,,
a bordering physiqe is the one who though can and pass for natural any day of the week,,yes even natural competitors lie to the lie detector in wada etc,,a bordering physiqe is the type of physiqe that choses one anabolic/androgenic and go with it ,,it is usually a light one that is only there for maintinaing muscle mass while reducing body fat % and the choices are many ,,
now this fella like many so called natural lifters is holding this bordering physiqe and already truely believe he is natural as in purswayed himself into believing that due to the mininal use of hormones,,the side effects are close to nothing but !! even bordering physiqe has its character distinctions,,
again take pen and paper this is important and was not written in the bible,,i charge 1000s of dollars for this information on a daily basis,,
the bordering physiqe will blow up from within depending on doses and over all respond to hormone while body fat is reduced ,,the natural blow up is never an all out blow up,,,take for example alex 23,,his blow up is enourmous due to a constnt use of androgens but this fella doesnt go this way he maintain a specific product he uses and stict to strict diet and ,,ths is primse example of bordering physiqe on a white young male,,
now the distinctions of bordering physiqe is the way the muscle blow up in this case and doses mini blow up,,pay attention closely and you will see that the muscles on the young fella blow up from within while water is retained between the skin and muscle and adema is at distict locations around the torso mainly arms,,shoulders and face,,it is due to anabolic androgenic use ,,the use of gh by itself can and will also produce this type of leaness with the spcific adema and skin tone,, in this fella case it is minimal use of hormones as in one type of either inject or oral gh15 points to oral due to the status the lifter want to keep,,
the type of work the fella does,,the hours outside and many gym skips,,the way the brothers talk about the female gender,,all in all this is prime example of an enhanced phsyiqe of fellas who like working out and started to take it seriously
this mini blow up with the low body fat% is and only can be achieved to that level with the use of hormone/s
his face and physiqe scream it its only susides due to the dose and duration of intake which he sure knows well how to manipulate like any good natural ,,,many of them compete in wada,,this fella is not good enough yet but he can do novice wada
the same fella completely natural at 5'9 would be 160lb with this body fat ,,so as you can tell the hormone intake gave him 15 extra good qualitative pounds ,,
the only recomandation for a competitor is to get big ,,same way he is ,,meaning get officially on hormones and dont hide it or still hide it and use more constantly and more than one product ,,with this size you cant do anything on stage
gh15 approved
do not pm me about this subject i answered this last time
-
the same fella completely natural at 5'9 would be 160lb with this body fat ,,so as you can tell the hormone intake gave him 15 extra good qualitative pounds ,,
yes.. you may be right. he probably runs a small dose of test along with an anabolic.
its not a bad look really and it suits his needs.
I am now thinking of running eq and deca... alternating the two every six months.. indefinitely. that along with a low dose of testosterone.
that will make me a happy man :)
-
I don't care if he uses crack, test, finigenx magnum, plazmosis or hydro extracted monkey shit. Dude is in college bettering himself while knocking down loose sluts and still finding time for the gym.
If he is in "on" then he is smart enough to use just enough to make training and getting the results that he wants easier. If he is not on then more power to him.
now, can we get him to post some pics of those loose college sluts that he is knocking down?
the only thing that I don't like about him is that seems to have a case "Sevastase disease".."look at me, look me at, and here is another pic"
-
now, can we get him to post some pics of those loose college sluts that he is knocking down?
the guy is a moron.. I dont give a shit how much schooling he gets - he's a tool.
so i agree.. he might as well post some girls. then he wont be totally worthless.
-
Haha. Keep going I'm enjoying this. Like I said you jokers can believe anything you want. I've actually EATEN raw meat including raw hamburger for the last two years. I have 2-3 raw eggs after every workout. Never been sick.
i have a couple of questions
does raw milk taste much different to the homogenized/pasturized shit and
can you prepare raw meat any other way other than room temp/cold, like how would you prepare it if so
-
you need to start training that neck of yours.
He's not on GH.
-
,,,take for example alex 23,,his blow up is enourmous due to a constnt use of androgens
:D Right on.
-
he was already on them,,
this is what we call in bodybuilding a bordering physiqe,,
new definition so take pen and paper and copy friends,,
a bordering physiqe is the one who though can and pass for natural any day of the week,,yes even natural competitors lie to the lie detector in wada etc,,a bordering physiqe is the type of physiqe that choses one anabolic/androgenic and go with it ,,it is usually a light one that is only there for maintinaing muscle mass while reducing body fat % and the choices are many ,,
now this fella like many so called natural lifters is holding this bordering physiqe and already truely believe he is natural as in purswayed himself into believing that due to the mininal use of hormones,,the side effects are close to nothing but !! even bordering physiqe has its character distinctions,,
again take pen and paper this is important and was not written in the bible,,i charge 1000s of dollars for this information on a daily basis,,
the bordering physiqe will blow up from within depending on doses and over all respond to hormone while body fat is reduced ,,the natural blow up is never an all out blow up,,,take for example alex 23,,his blow up is enourmous due to a constnt use of androgens but this fella doesnt go this way he maintain a specific product he uses and stict to strict diet and ,,ths is primse example of bordering physiqe on a white young male,,
now the distinctions of bordering physiqe is the way the muscle blow up in this case and doses mini blow up,,pay attention closely and you will see that the muscles on the young fella blow up from within while water is retained between the skin and muscle and adema is at distict locations around the torso mainly arms,,shoulders and face,,it is due to anabolic androgenic use ,,the use of gh by itself can and will also produce this type of leaness with the spcific adema and skin tone,, in this fella case it is minimal use of hormones as in one type of either inject or oral gh15 points to oral due to the status the lifter want to keep,,
the type of work the fella does,,the hours outside and many gym skips,,the way the brothers talk about the female gender,,all in all this is prime example of an enhanced phsyiqe of fellas who like working out and started to take it seriously
this mini blow up with the low body fat% is and only can be achieved to that level with the use of hormone/s
his face and physiqe scream it its only susides due to the dose and duration of intake which he sure knows well how to manipulate like any good natural ,,,many of them compete in wada,,this fella is not good enough yet but he can do novice wada
the same fella completely natural at 5'9 would be 160lb with this body fat ,,so as you can tell the hormone intake gave him 15 extra good qualitative pounds ,,
the only recomandation for a competitor is to get big ,,same way he is ,,meaning get officially on hormones and dont hide it or still hide it and use more constantly and more than one product ,,with this size you cant do anything on stage
gh15 approved
do not pm me about this subject i answered this last time
Weren't you the douche who said that as of 1/1/09 you would "reveal" ::) who you are and stop posting?? You're posts are humorous at best.
-
Weren't you the douche who said that as of 1/1/09 you would "reveal" ::) who you are and stop posting?? You're Your posts are humorous at best.
fixed.
-
fixed.
doing the board a service, ndai.
-
i have a couple of questions
does raw milk taste much different to the homogenized/pasturized shit and
can you prepare raw meat any other way other than room temp/cold, like how would you prepare it if so
It tastes much better in my opinion. A richer, more natural taste. Same thing with raw meat. Once your palate adapts to the taste you actually start to enjoy raw meat and when you eat cooked meat you just feel like meat isn't meant to be cooked and eating raw meat seems more natural. Anyways, it's hard to explain but I've been eating raw for several years now on and off. Raw milk I can drink by the gallons and I do this when cutting as well. As far as preparing meat any other temperature than cold or room temperature well that defeats the purpose of eating it raw. Enzymes in raw meat and some of beneficial bacteria are very heat senstive and are destroyed even if you just sear the meat a little. I don't like to eat my meat cold raw, I leave it out for a little and let it warm up to room temperature. There are lots of ways to prepare raw meat. Just try and see what works for you and what you like. A book called The Recipe for Living Without Disease is very useful in learning how to combine and eat raw foods. Also the quality of your meat will make a big difference. Good luck!
-
fixed.
Shit.....I knew it didnt look right. >:(
-
ive heard some about this "raw" food stuff before, but never really looked into it much. what keeps you from getting sick from the bacteria where the meat has been exposed to air?
for example with chicken, or with ground beef, or even just a steak that hasnt been cook at all.
Simply Huge you're making several assumptions:
First you're assuming that because something is "raw" it's automatically contaminated with bacteria, and bad bacteria at that.
Secondly, you are assuming that because food is exposed to air that means bacteria will contaminate food.
Both of these are false assumptions and you're dismissing the robustness of the human digestive tract and body in general. We've all been brainwashed to believe our food has to be cooked, sterilized, and processed to death in this society. And in most cases it does due to the mass production of food. However, eating fresh raw food is entirely different. Am I going to go to McDonald's and order my hamburger raw? Am I going to go to a typical Von's/Pavillions/Schnuck's/Dierbergs/Albertson's/Safe-Way/Walmart and eat their generic meat and eggs that come from factory farms where the animals are treated like shit, fed shitty diets, and just plain unhealthy? Hell no. But I will go to a Whole Foods and get my meat that comes from grass fed beef, eggs that are cage free, from free roaming healthy chickens. Same thing with milk. Or go to local organic farms/join a food coop etc. You cannot go to a farm that processes any old milk for pasteurization and expect to drink that milk raw. The cows are in terrible health and probably have mastitis and what not and the milk will be contaminated. However, if you go to a Grade A raw dairy farm who's cows are healthy and consist of a diet based on grass and pasture the milk is pure and healthy and void of pathogenic bacteria.
Food borne illness has very little to do with the food being raw or cooked. Most of the food borne outbreaks lately have been from things like peanut butter, spinach, etc. stuff you'd never even think. Usually because of the facilities that process shit is dirty and unkept. Raw food due to the enzymes, beneficial bacteria actually strengthen your immune system and your bodies ability to fight off pathogenic bacteria, viruses etc. Coconut oil is a natural antiviral. Honey was used to treat burns etc. in ancient greek and is actually used in medicine to treat burns/wounds to this day. Honey should always be consumed raw due to the heating destroying everything good in it. Anyways, there is a lot more to this subject and I suggest if you are really interested in it to read some of the following books:
We Want To Live www.wewant2live.com
The Recipe for Living Without Disease
The Story of Milk by Ron Schmidt
Nutrition and Physical Degeneration by Weston. A. Price.
Muscle, Smoke and Mirrors: The History of Nutrition in Bodybuilding by Randy Roach
www.raw-milk-facts.com for a general overview
Oh and one other thing Simply Huge, raw meat eventually turns "brown" and this has nothing to do with being contaminated with bad bacteria. This has to do with the meat actually "fermenting" and the lack of light. Eskimos in fact used to bury fish in the ground, dig it up weeks later and eat it. This was called "high" meat. LOL. I'm not about to do that but it goes to show you that we've been brainwashed to believe our gut and digestive system is this delicate little flower that at the slightest drop of a hat we'll get sick. MANY places like your average grocery store actually use dye to color the meat and give it that bright red color.
-
Just go to amazon and search for some of those books and read the reviews.
-
http://www.raw-milk-facts.com/raw_milk_safety.html
-
ive heard some of what you are saying before. i know that the mass production of food has caused a lot of problems (hormones, steroids, chemicals in the animals and plants). i watched some peta video showing what they did to cows, chickens, etc. I do most of my shopping at Wal-mart though, and wouldnt even know hwere to go to get the good stuff. Walmart normally has an organic section, which I've heard a lot of people say organic food is best. I believe Paul Newman had a lot of ideas on organic foods.
i got some sort of intestinal infection a few months ago that put me in the hospital. i ate some fish and scallops. lost 20 lbs in about a week. didnt eat for almost all of that week though besides sipping on gatorade and ritz crackers. was pretty bad. the thought of getting something like that again would make me think twice before eating something raw.
i may look into this though. interesting stuff.
Wal-Mart meat is fucking nasty and they are a perfect example of how f'd up agriculture is in this country as far as commerical farms go. I knew a butcher that worked at Sam's Club and you don't even want to hear the stories he told me. It's disgusting. If you can find grass fed beef that's the best.
-
MANY places like your average grocery store actually use dye to color the meat and give it that bright red color.
Known this for some time....its VERY easy to tell the difference between blood and the red dye. I remember every christmas our family would have the 'raw beef and onions'. Dad had to get the beef from a special shop. I can recall just loading up the tiny rye bread with the beef. LOVE THAT STUFF.