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Re: Before and After Photos
« Reply #225 on: March 28, 2009, 11:53:42 AM »
Its amazing how some of these guys can sit on there computer behind their keyboards and decide .. because that guys looks good he cant be natural.... no evidence no proof
if the guy looked like shit then yeah it would be cool he's nautural.... emotional bitch jealousy
just pure envy and jealousy.
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Haha you're a fool.  So is caffeine and aspirin in "shitload" amounts natural?  What is a natural in your opinion mesomorph?  You're saying it's possible to drop 45lbs in 6 months naturally without losing hardly any muscle?   ::) Don't you eat oreos and live off jamaican food without doing hardly any cardio as well?  You guys are truly supermen!  LMAO! 

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Re: Before and After Photos
« Reply #226 on: March 28, 2009, 12:07:27 PM »
natural is drug free....

why make reference to Jamaican food.... is that supposed to be amusing....I'm Jamaican and i eat Jamaican food and?
... face it your not into lifting.. your a gimmick... all you post about is what an individual cant do... or who is on drugs on isn't on drugs... where is your picture.. what have you ..contributed..who have you inspired....
total loser... I'm surprised you haven't  brought out your other gimmick pal sweetmuscles yet
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Re: Before and After Photos
« Reply #227 on: March 28, 2009, 01:23:31 PM »
MM lol youre so cute, still acting like a tough guy with no photo to warrent any kind of credibility...i look pretty good therefore i must be on sauce, thats your only argument lol

saying i juice because i use some caffiene and aspirin to reduce inflamation and help keep me going thru my workouts due to an extreme low carb diet is absolute lunacy, any business man who drinks coffee with his breakfast is doing the same thing lol trying to "wake" up lol you ever take some Tylenol YOURE A JUICER lol dude your arguments are the only thing weaker than your lifts

the difference bt the two of us is that you are always going to look like  a steaming pile of dog shit cuz u dont have the fuckin nut sack to go to the gym and train, look how much time youve already wasted trying to make yourself feel better by knockin me and my brother lol epic waste of time

let me know when your butthole is sufficently healed so i can rape you again :-*

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Re: Before and After Photos
« Reply #228 on: March 28, 2009, 01:41:19 PM »
when did using caffeine and aspirin make you not natural?  Seriously, are there studies that show these two products actually constitute as muscle builders?

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Re: Before and After Photos
« Reply #229 on: March 28, 2009, 01:55:30 PM »


let me know when your butthole is sufficently healed so i can rape you again :-*


This sounds hot. Please bring a video camera.

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Re: Before and After Photos
« Reply #230 on: March 28, 2009, 01:57:24 PM »
natural is drug free....


caffeine and aspirin are drugs..... ::)

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Re: Before and After Photos
« Reply #231 on: March 28, 2009, 02:02:46 PM »
So is Advil. Case: Tom Prince  ::)

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Re: Before and After Photos
« Reply #232 on: March 28, 2009, 02:03:56 PM »
So is Advil. Case: Tom Prince  ::)
haha yes CJ, it was clearly the ibuprofen that did the damage to him... Advil is a helluva drug!

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Re: Before and After Photos
« Reply #233 on: March 28, 2009, 03:35:43 PM »
Here's the bottomline, VERY few people train naturally nowadays who have any admirable level of development.  WHY?  Because it takes a shitload of hardwork, dedication and TIME to achieve that level of development naturally.  Aint no way in hell some 22 year old is going to achieve all that when it takes most guys, even with good genetics 10+ years to achieve.  Look at HOW MANY steroid interent bodybuilding forums there are these days.  There are a SHITLOAD of guys using steroids.  Some are true bodybuilders and some are weekend warriors so to speak.  Those of us who call bullshit on guys like this have seen the same song and dance on the internet and in the gyms.  A young kid jumps on a cycle and then downplays everything and BOOM he's got gawkers galore and his ego jumps through the roof.  I mean most bodybuilders are narcissists as it is.  

You're a fool.

225-230, 9-10% bf @ 6'2" is NOT huge.

Do you even work out?

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Re: Before and After Photos
« Reply #234 on: March 28, 2009, 04:40:50 PM »
You're a fool.

225-230, 9-10% bf @ 6'2" is NOT huge.

Do you even work out?

oh brother... suddenly arnold is small :-\
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Re: Before and After Photos
« Reply #235 on: March 28, 2009, 05:11:56 PM »
oh brother... suddenly arnold is small :-\

Haha I love these clowns.
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Re: Before and After Photos
« Reply #236 on: March 28, 2009, 05:17:09 PM »
oh brother... suddenly arnold is small :-\

Never suggested it was small.  But 225 at 6'2" (or 180 at 5'9" which proportionately is similar) is not difficult to achieve, going to the gym, 3-5 days per week, and consuming good nutrition.  Both brothers look good, I'm just disturbed by the amount of people that genuinely believe that it's impossible to look the way they do WITHOUT steroids.

So, so sad.  Seriously.

I'm curious how many of the naysayers are actually serious lifters.

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Re: Before and After Photos
« Reply #237 on: March 28, 2009, 05:20:09 PM »
Its amazing how some of these guys can sit on there computer behind their keyboards and decide .. because that guys looks good he cant be natural.... no evidence no proof
if the guy looked like shit then yeah it would be cool he's nautural.... emotional bitch jealousy
just pure envy and jealousy.
sad

Meso..this guy dropped 40lbs and gained muscle at the same time..not even Clark Kent can do that naturally

Here is before and after photo of my brother.

6'2

around 275 lbs in the before pics
around 225 - 230 lbs in the after pics




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Re: Before and After Photos
« Reply #238 on: March 28, 2009, 05:21:27 PM »
Never suggested it was small.  But 225 at 6'2" (or 180 at 5'9" which proportionately is similar) is not difficult to achieve, going to the gym, 3-5 days per week, and consuming good nutrition.  Both brothers look good, I'm just disturbed by the amount of people that genuinely believe that it's impossible to look the way they do WITHOUT steroids.

So, so sad.  Seriously.

I'm curious how many of the naysayers are actually serious lifters.


hahahahha shut the fuck up you clown!

Arnold was 6'2, 225, why don't you ask him if he worked out?
now go back to sipping on your cup of semen and enjoying it with dried up dung crackers you fagggot!




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Re: Before and After Photos
« Reply #239 on: March 28, 2009, 05:28:14 PM »
Never suggested it was small.  But 225 at 6'2" (or 180 at 5'9" which proportionately is similar) is not difficult to achieve, going to the gym, 3-5 days per week, and consuming good nutrition.  Both brothers look good, I'm just disturbed by the amount of people that genuinely believe that it's impossible to look the way they do WITHOUT steroids.

So, so sad.  Seriously.

I'm curious how many of the naysayers are actually serious lifters.

that's arnolds numbers and it certainly isn't easily achieved even with drugs, if we are talking about being really lean at that weight.
and arnold 6'1 230-240 would be more like 200-210 on a 5'9 frame.

now if the wall really is 230 is another thing, from the front he is far from looking like arnold, the back however is DAMN good and that's what makes me doubt him being natural.
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Re: Before and After Photos
« Reply #240 on: March 28, 2009, 05:47:06 PM »

hahahahha shut the fuck up you clown!

Arnold was 6'2, 225, why don't you ask him if he worked out?
now go back to sipping on your cup of semen and enjoying it with dried up dung crackers you fagggot!





You're WAY too preocupied with numbers.  I could post a picture of a number of heavyweight boxers for example, of a similar height to Arnold, and of a similar weight, and they will LOOK nowhere near as big. 

Bodybuilding is about how you LOOK, not how much you weigh.

A 6'2" big boned guy, with a wide waist, is not HUGE at 225.  It's ridiculous to post a pic of Arnold at the same height and weight to prove a point. 

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Re: Before and After Photos
« Reply #241 on: March 28, 2009, 05:47:54 PM »
caffeine and aspirin are drugs..... ::)

If caffeine makes me anabolic then I should be dwarfing prime-time Ronnie.

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Re: Before and After Photos
« Reply #242 on: March 28, 2009, 05:48:32 PM »
You're WAY too preocupied with numbers.  I could post a picture of a number of heavyweight boxers for example, of a similar height to Arnold, and of a similar weight, and they will LOOK nowhere near as big. 

Bodybuilding is about how you LOOK, not how much you weigh.

A 6'2" big boned guy, with a wide waist, is not HUGE at 225.  It's ridiculous to post a pic of Arnold at the same height and weight to prove a point. 


how about this..... how about you go wrap your lips around a black cock and start sucking on it? :D

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Re: Before and After Photos
« Reply #243 on: March 28, 2009, 05:50:05 PM »
Exactly.

Muhammad Ali at 6'3 and 220lbs looked small IMO. Not big at all.

He claimed the same weight as Arnold...NOT the same measurements.

Whole world of difference.

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Re: Before and After Photos
« Reply #244 on: March 28, 2009, 05:53:34 PM »
Exactly.

Muhammad Ali at 6'3 and 220lbs looked small IMO. Not big at all.

He claimed the same weight as Arnold...NOT the same measurements.

Whole world of difference.

kind of sad that the two 'brothers' had to create gimmicks to defend their natural status lol

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Re: Before and After Photos
« Reply #245 on: March 28, 2009, 05:56:11 PM »
If caffeine makes me anabolic then I should be dwarfing prime-time Ronnie.


as much coffee as I drink, Chris Cormeir would look like Usain Bolt compared to me
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Re: Before and After Photos
« Reply #246 on: March 28, 2009, 06:18:25 PM »
Exactly.

Muhammad Ali at 6'3 and 220lbs looked small IMO. Not big at all.

He claimed the same weight as Arnold...NOT the same measurements.

Whole world of difference.

are you saying 'the wall' is looking small ?
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Re: Before and After Photos
« Reply #247 on: March 28, 2009, 06:43:41 PM »
I am saying weight is just a number.

225 @ 6'2 can look huge. Or 225 @ 6'2 can look average

you're right, i changed my mind. i believe he is natural
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Re: Before and After Photos
« Reply #248 on: March 28, 2009, 06:54:12 PM »
You're a fool.

225-230, 9-10% bf @ 6'2" is NOT huge.

Do you even work out?

Have you ever used steroids?  Probably not you stupid fuck.  Ive trained naturally and have used steroids.  So shut the fuck up.

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Re: Before and After Photos
« Reply #249 on: March 28, 2009, 07:08:59 PM »
Have you ever used steroids?  Probably not you stupid fuck.  Ive trained naturally and have used steroids.  So shut the fuck up.

What is you point of contention?

Whether you've used steroids or not is completely irrelevant.  It doesn't make your view that Wall and SH have juiced any more valid.

Hope this helps.