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Surprise surprise.
Limbaugh's ratings spike amid Dem attacks
Posted: 02:41 PM ET
(CNN) – A conservative media watchdog group says recent Democratic attacks on Rush Limbaugh may have given a big boost to the talk radio host's ratings.
According to the Media Research Center, stations that carry Limbaugh's day time talk show experienced a "dramatic surge" of listeners in February — the month when congressional Democrats and even President Obama publicly took swipes at the conservative talker.
"President Obama declared war on Rush Limbaugh and his ratings went through the roof," said Media Research Center's Brent Bozell. "If that's not a magnificent backfire, I'm not sure what is."
Democrats have been eager to paint the divisive Limbaugh as the de facto Republican leader, especially after the radio host's controversial statement that he hoped the president's economic policies would fail.
Obama himself warned congressional Democrats in late January that they need to "can't just listen to Rush Limbaugh and get things done."
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
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have republican congressional approval ratings gone up as well?
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have republican congressional approval ratings gone up as well?
Yes they have.In fact early this week in the generic "who would you vote for republicans or democrats" the republicans took a lead for the first time in years.I believe the dems creeped back up to even or slightly ahead,but this attack has backfired incredibly badly.People see right through it.
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Surprise surprise.
Limbaugh's ratings spike amid Dem attacks
Posted: 02:41 PM ET
(CNN) – A conservative media watchdog group says recent Democratic attacks on Rush Limbaugh may have given a big boost to the talk radio host's ratings.
According to the Media Research Center, stations that carry Limbaugh's day time talk show experienced a "dramatic surge" of listeners in February — the month when congressional Democrats and even President Obama publicly took swipes at the conservative talker.
"President Obama declared war on Rush Limbaugh and his ratings went through the roof," said Media Research Center's Brent Bozell. "If that's not a magnificent backfire, I'm not sure what is."
Democrats have been eager to paint the divisive Limbaugh as the de facto Republican leader, especially after the radio host's controversial statement that he hoped the president's economic policies would fail.
Obama himself warned congressional Democrats in late January that they need to "can't just listen to Rush Limbaugh and get things done."
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
Attack? Our president just warned the people that turning to a disc jockey for political direction may not be in their best interest.
Rush wants Obama to come on his DJ talk show to debate.
Great. An uneducated DJ v. a harvard trained constitutional lawyer. Why Rush would win for sure.
Now if they had a hotdog eating contest, I'd think Rush would stand a fair chance of emerging the victor.
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Attack? Our president just warned the people that turning to a disc jockey for political direction may not be in their best interest.
Rush wants Obama to come on his DJ talk show to debate.
Great. An uneducated DJ v. a harvard trained constitutional lawyer. Why Rush would win for sure.
Now if they had a hotdog eating contest, I'd think Rush would stand a fair chance of emerging the victor.
Given the Obama/Democrat Party strategy to paint Rush as the leader of the Republican Party, Obama should go debate him.
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Attack? Our president just warned the people that turning to a disc jockey for political direction may not be in their best interest.
Rush wants Obama to come on his DJ talk show to debate.
Great. An uneducated DJ v. a harvard trained constitutional lawyer. Why Rush would win for sure.
Now if they had a hotdog eating contest, I'd think Rush would stand a fair chance of emerging the victor.
For an uneducated DJ, he gets plenty of attention. President even refers to him by name.
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Given the Obama/Democrat Party strategy to paint Rush as the leader of the Republican Party, Obama should go debate him.
Which leader of the Dem party did Bush debate in March of 2001?
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Which leader of the Dem party did Bush debate in March of 2001?
No idea. What does that have to do with Obama and Rush?
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No idea. What does that have to do with Obama and Rush?
You said the pres of the US should debate someone.
The president doesn't debate anyone in march of his first term, whether the opposing party has a leader or not.
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Given the Obama/Democrat Party strategy to paint Rush as the leader of the Republican Party, Obama should go debate him.
Pointing out that the DJ stepped into the leadership void of the rightwing in this country is no anointment by Obama.
Rush appeals to the 20%. The 20% who think Bush was a great president, that Iraq attacked us on 9/11, etc. During a panic, like we have with the current economy, people look for direction. That 20% can grow to 21% or more b/c people need leaders.
Rush provides easy answers to complex questions. His rhetoric is convincing to people who do not want the messy complexities of life to interfere with rigidly defined understanding/beliefs of how things are or ought to be. Some not normally swayed by his deceptive rhetoric might listen b/c panic/anxiety can create a crisis of confidence in understanding and direction.
Obama just pointed out that Rush is a showman and not a serious man.
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You said the pres of the US should debate someone.
The president doesn't debate anyone in march of his first term, whether the opposing party has a leader or not.
The president can debate whoever the heck he wants, whenver the heck he wants. Pretty poor excuse.
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Pointing out that the DJ stepped into the leadership void of the rightwing in this country is no anointment by Obama.
Rush appeals to the 20%. The 20% who think Bush was a great president, that Iraq attacked us on 9/11, etc. During a panic, like we have with the current economy, people look for direction. That 20% can grow to 21% or more b/c people need leaders.
Rush provides easy answers to complex questions. His rhetoric is convincing to people who do not want the messy complexities of life to interfere with rigidly defined understanding/beliefs of how things are or ought to be. Some not normally swayed by his deceptive rhetoric might listen b/c panic/anxiety can create a crisis of confidence in understanding and direction.
Obama just pointed out that Rush is a showman and not a serious man.
It's actually a coordinated effort by those on the left to use Rush as some sort of boogeyman. The man's name should have never come out of Obama's mouth. Bad strategy IMO.
But since he and his minions opened the door, I think Rush was smart to challenge Obama to a debate. I don't think either one of them is very good at debating, but it would be very entertaining.
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For an uneducated DJ, he gets plenty of attention. President even refers to him by name.
From the beginning there have been scammers like Rush. Look up Father Coughlin. A Rush progenitor.
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have republican congressional approval ratings gone up as well?
That guy is such a fucking joke and an embarassment not just to Republicans but to all Americans. Fucking poser; under Bush big spending gets thumbs up, under Obama thumbs down...deceitful sack of shit he is....
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Obama just pointed out that Rush is a showman and not a serious man.
If Rush is just an insignificant showman, why did the President mention him by name? Why not just ignore him?
Let me guess...he had to say something because even though only 20% are dumb enough to believe Rush, they would stand in the way of St. Barry saving this nation. ::)
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The president can debate whoever the heck he wants, whenver the heck he wants. Pretty poor excuse.
Bush called out moveon.org but I don't recall him debating them either.
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From the beginning there have been scammers like Rush. Look up Father Coughlin. A Rush progenitor.
Since he is just a scammer, why did the President dignify his existence?
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Bush called out moveon.org but I don't recall him debating them either.
I don't recall Bush calling moveon.org the face of the Democrat party. But who cares? This is about Obama and his cronies and their rather silly attack on an entertainer.
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It's actually a coordinated effort by those on the left to use Rush as some sort of boogeyman. The man's name should have never come out of Obama's mouth. Bad strategy IMO.
But since he and his minions opened the door, I think Rush was smart to challenge Obama to a debate. I don't think either one of them is very good at debating, but it would be very entertaining.
Let's take Rush out of his studio and prop him up in front of a live mic at a debate judged by experts in forensic events. Rush would collapse like the house of cards that he is.
Obama had to address Rush. The chairman of the republican party bowed down before Rush. Who is running that party anyways? Based on the facts at hand, it seems to be Rush.
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Since he is just a scammer, why did the President dignify his existence?
B/c scamming works. If it didn't work, Rush might endeavor to some sort of legitimate scholarship.
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Let's take Rush out of his studio and prop him up in front of a live mic at a debate judged by experts in forensic events. Rush would collapse like the house of cards that he is.
Obama had to address Rush. The chairman of the republican party bowed down before Rush. Who is running that party anyways? Based on the facts at hand, it seems to be Rush.
Then why are you upset? Assuming you are Democrat, it would make sense for you to want the opposition to be in disarray. And if a party's de-facto leader is a fat, uneducated DJ who can't function outside his studio, you should be thrilled.
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Let's take Rush out of his studio and prop him up in front of a live mic at a debate judged by experts in forensic events. Rush would collapse like the house of cards that he is.
Obama had to address Rush. The chairman of the republican party bowed down before Rush. Who is running that party anyways? Based on the facts at hand, it seems to be Rush.
I've heard Rush debate. I've heard Obama debate. As I said, neither one of them is very good.
He didn't have to address Rush. I see you have the talking points down. You been talking to James Carville? :)
Steele made a dumb mistake by talking about Rush, but I do agree that the Republican party really has no true leader (or message) right now.
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B/c scamming works. If it didn't work, Rush might endeavor to some sort of legitimate scholarship.
Again, you are only proving that you dislike Rush. Why, again, why, was it necessary for Obama to mention him by name? And then think there wouldn't be any sort of backlash?
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Then why are you upset? Assuming you are Democrat, it would make sense for you to want the opposition to be in disarray. And if a party's de-facto leader is a fat, uneducated DJ who can't function outside his studio, you should be thrilled.
I'm not upset. He doesn't influence my thinking.
And I don't think the dissemination of falsehoods and propaganda serve the country's interest. Rush is bad for america in that respect.
He pollutes the waters of genuine discourse with his bloviating. It's his right to do so. It's just that we all suffer for his obfuscation.
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Again, you are only proving that you dislike Rush. Why, again, why, was it necessary for Obama to mention him by name? And then think there wouldn't be any sort of backlash?
Rush is an irritant to our nation's discourse. Why pretend he and his 20 million people don't exist? Remember the last time the right wing had a democratic president to Tee off on 24/7?
The rightwing anti-government hero Tim McVeigh answered the call. Down goes the federal building, down goes the federal building, down goes Frazier.
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I'm not upset. He doesn't influence my thinking.
And I don't think the dissemination of falsehoods and propaganda serve the country's interest. Rush is bad for america in that respect.
He pollutes the waters of genuine discourse with his bloviating. It's his right to do so. It's just that we all suffer for his obfuscation.
You are correct; it is his right to broadcast his ideas. You have the equal right to ignore him.
How do "we all suffer" ? If only 20% believe him, that isn't enough to hold back the brilliant 80% who see through him.
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Rush is an irritant to our nation's discourse. Why pretend he and his 20 million people don't exist? Remember the last time the right wing had a democratic president to Tee off on 24/7?
The rightwing anti-government hero Tim McVeigh answered the call. Down goes the federal building, down goes the federal building, down goes Frazier.
I was wondering when you would blame Rush for the Oklahoma City Bombing.
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You are correct; it is his right to broadcast his ideas. You have the equal right to ignore him.
How do "we all suffer" ? If only 20% believe him, that isn't enough to hold back the brilliant 80% who see through him.
In a time of crisis - like our current Depression - some people lose their sense of direction and can fall for the easy answers to complex questions which Limbaugh provides. That's where Limbaugh excels.
Obama just quelled some of their fears by slapping down this commercial con man.
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In a time of crisis - like our current Depression - some people lose their sense of direction and can fall for the easy answers to complex questions which Limbaugh provides. That's where Limbaugh excels.
Obama just quelled some of their fears by slapping down this commercial con man.
If he "slapped him down" then why did his ratings spike?
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I was wondering when you would blame Rush for the Oklahoma City Bombing.
Hope I made it in under the wire.
It was no left-wing peacenik that brought down the federal building. No, that was rightwing political fomentation at it's height.
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If he "slapped him down" then why did his ratings spike?
Calling a spade 'a spade' is what Obama did. I could care less what the vicissitudes of Limbaugh's ratings are.
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Rush is an irritant to our nation's discourse. Why pretend he and his 20 million people don't exist? Remember the last time the right wing had a democratic president to Tee off on 24/7?
The rightwing anti-government hero Tim McVeigh answered the call. Down goes the federal building, down goes the federal building, down goes Frazier.
You're blaming Rush for McVeigh? lol . . .
But that is one of my favorite soundbites of all time (down goes Frazier).
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Hope I made it in under the wire.
It was no left-wing peacenik that brought down the federal building. No, that was rightwing political fomentation at it's height.
Mmm-hmmmmm...so Rush made Tim do it, because Tim didn't have a mind of his own. A product of a movement bigger than he was - a true victim.
I suppose that you would favor revoking Rush's First Amendment rights because you perceive him to be a threat to national security. This is especially true because most people aren't as brilliant as you are, and will therefore indiscriminately do whatever Rush orders them to do.
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Mmm-hmmmmm...so Rush made Tim do it, because Tim didn't have a mind of his own. A product of a movement bigger than he was - a true victim.
I suppose that you would favor revoking Rush's First Amendment rights because you perceive him to be a threat to national security. This is especially true because most people aren't as brilliant as you are, and will therefore indiscriminately do whatever Rush orders them to do.
Rush is an idiot...
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Calling a spade 'a spade' is what Obama did. I could care less what the vicissitudes of Limbaugh's ratings are.
It sounds like the vicissitudes of Rush's ratings keep you awake at night, since you seem awfully concerned about Rush's growing influence, which you think keep this country in its current state of economic woe.
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You're blaming Rush for McVeigh? lol . . .
But that is one of my favorite soundbites of all time (down goes Frazier).
I'm blaming the rightwing propaganda machine - Rush, Sean, Mike Weiner, etc, the right wing militia mentality and all the other groups or individuals who demonize the federal government when it is convenient for them to do so.
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It sounds like the vicissitudes of Rush's ratings keep you awake at night, since you seem awfully concerned about Rush's growing influence, which you think keep this country in its current state of economic woe.
Look man, I just posted a response in an internet chitchat room. You seem to see more into that than I do.
Whatever the case, I do admire your show. I thought you and Don Knotts were way ahead of your time.
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Look man, I just posted a response in an internet chitchat room. You seem to see more into that than I do.
Whatever the case, I do admire your show. I thought you and Don Knotts were way ahead of your time.
hahahaha
Thank you, sir. Great discussion. Take care.
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lol Are we going to blame gangster rap for the crime rate in this country or pornography for STDs, or better yet Barry Bonds for teenagers using roids? Hey, how about the sex and violence on television for school shootings and teenage pregnancy?
Blaming Rush for the Oklahoma City bombing is patently absurd. I suppose Rush was engaged in some subliminal broadcasting that transmitted messages to McVeigh and instructed him to carry out the attack. Allegedly he did the same thing to get Don Imus to call the Rutgers woman's basketball team Nappy Headed Ho's. :o Rush's esp is legendary!
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lol Are we going to blame gangster rap for the crime rate in this country or pornography for STDs, or better yet Barry Bonds for teenagers using roids? Hey, how about the sex and violence on television for school shootings and teenage pregnancy?
Blaming Rush for the Oklahoma City bombing is patently absurd. I suppose Rush was engaged in some subliminal broadcasting that transmitted messages to McVeigh and instructed him to carry out the attack. Allegedly he did the same thing to get Don Imus to call the Rutgers woman's basketball team Nappy Headed Ho's. :o Rush's esp is legendary!
The anti-government sentiment pushed by the rightwing-limbaugh included-during democratic administrations is very real. Remember, it was a right wing terrorist who took that anti-government bilge to heart when he blew up women and children simply b/c they occupied a building designated as a 'federal' building.
In a letter he wrote to Fox News correspondent Rita Cosby, McVeigh attempted to justify his attack on a federal building as no different from a U.S. military air or missile strike on a government building in an enemy nation such as Serbia or Iraq. This is the statement of a person who is so alienated from his own country that he no longer recognizes his victims as anything other than an enemy target.
http://www.historyguy.com/biofiles/mcveigh_timothy.html
Your exaggerated examples, though entertaining, aren't the same thing.
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lol Are we going to blame gangster rap for the crime rate in this country or pornography for STDs, or better yet Barry Bonds for teenagers using roids? Hey, how about the sex and violence on television for school shootings and teenage pregnancy?
Blaming Rush for the Oklahoma City bombing is patently absurd. I suppose Rush was engaged in some subliminal broadcasting that transmitted messages to McVeigh and instructed him to carry out the attack. Allegedly he did the same thing to get Don Imus to call the Rutgers woman's basketball team Nappy Headed Ho's. :o Rush's esp is legendary!
Funny. :) Pretty absurd to blame Rush et al. for McVeigh.
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I'm blaming the rightwing propaganda machine - Rush, Sean, Mike Weiner, etc, the right wing militia mentality and all the other groups or individuals who demonize the federal government when it is convenient for them to do so.
And who was responsible for left wing lunatics like lee harvey oswald, sirhan sirhan, weather underground, ELF bombings, unibomber????
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And who was responsible for left wing lunatics like lee harvey oswald, sirhan sirhan, weather underground, ELF bombings, unibomber????
the CIA, who did you think?
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the CIA, who did you think?
For a long time I believed in the conspiracy theories, but there seems to be more and more evidence pointing at the LGT being theory for what happened.
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Hugo, come back to us. Please. Planet earth is this way. :-X
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And who was responsible for left wing lunatics like lee harvey oswald, sirhan sirhan, weather underground, ELF bombings, unibomber????
Rush Limbaugh.