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I have a good friend of mine, naturally big and strong (not a pu**y like me :-[).
He was always the alpha male, lots of girls, always happy...you get the picture.
Started training seriously and gained lots of mass while using the juice, and he was really incredible.
He had to quit for health problems and since then fell into deep depression, already tryed two times suicide.
Now in treatement by a specialist doctor.
Is it a common situation to feel down if not on the juice?
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Yep, Life sucks without the juice.
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uh it's one of the most known sides of steroids. prolly why many never take time off.
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I have a good friend of mine, naturally big and strong (not a pu**y like me :-[).
He was always the alpha male, lots of girls, always happy...you get the picture.
Started training seriously and gained lots of mass while using the juice, and he was really incredible.
He had to quit for helth problems and since then fell into depression, already tryed two times suicide.
Now in treatement by a specialist doctor.
Is it a common situation to feel down if not on the juice?
ego solely based on looks....
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Not to be a dick, but he sounds weak minded. Prolly had low self esteem prior to juice. While cycling it made him feel adequate, then off juice he reverted to a confidence level prior to where he began.
That's why it's good to have hobbies and other things you're good at outside of weightlifting.
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ego solely based on looks....
that's what bb is all about...right? :)
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Not to be a dick, but he sounds weak minded. Prolly had low self esteem prior to juice. While cycling it made him feel adequate, then off juice he reverted to a confidence level prior to where he began.
That's why it's good to have hobbies and other things you're good at outside of weightlifting.
you're not sounding like a dick, you're telling like it is I think.
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you're not sounding like a dick, you're telling like it is I think.
Yeah but some people get butthurt when you give an assessment about their friends. Seriously being good at other things keeps you going. Take pride in what you do. A lot of people fall into the trap of dedicating 100% of themselves to lifting and pay the price when it doesn't pan out the way they thought it would.
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Depressed because he stopped using, ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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attempting to kill yourself twice cause you lost your bloat...... ::)
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It's not being "off the juice" that is causing your friend's depression, but rather the low testosterone levels that he is now suffering from since stopping. Exogenous testosterone will shut off your body's natural production. Once you stop receiving the outside source, your levels plummet and your body's own production has not kicked back in. He needs either an experienced physician in restoring natural testosterone levels, an appropriate HRT dosage, or the ability to wait it out and hope that his levels return to pre-usage (or at least normal) levels on their own. I would recommend option one.
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that's what bb is all about...right? :)
if you r going THAT route..it'd explain why so many people with busted up faces choose bbing :-\ ..its a security blanket...
i'm a fat tub of lard right now...but perfectly happy with it :)
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Not to be a dick, but he sounds weak minded. Prolly had low self esteem prior to juice. While cycling it made him feel adequate, then off juice he reverted to a confidence level prior to where he began.
That's why it's good to have hobbies and other things you're good at outside of weightlifting.
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yep... i had zero issue quiting it, make sure your pct is correct and long enough and monitored with blood work. Find something else to do with your life, fishing, racing cars, playing with my kids, i actually found out what life was when i stopped kidding myself about pro bb'ing.
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Depression is for the WEAK! Grow some balls Biatch!
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tried to off himself twice???
get busy livin' or get busy dyin'.....dont pussy foot around.
get him some prozac and give him a swift kick in the ass......
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Not to be a dick, but he sounds weak minded. Prolly had low self esteem prior to juice. While cycling it made him feel adequate, then off juice he reverted to a confidence level prior to where he began.
That's why it's good to have hobbies and other things you're good at outside of weightlifting.
Yeah, I was gonna say more or less the same... it's true going on and off cycle does fuck with your head and can lead to some mild depression, but nothing that would lead the guy to suicide...
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Yeah, I was gonna say more or less the same... it's true going on and off cycle does fuck with your head and can lead to some mild depression, but nothing that would lead the guy to suicide...
The guy was fucked in the head b4 imo.
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It's not being "off the juice" that is causing your friend's depression, but rather the low testosterone levels that he is now suffering from since stopping. Exogenous testosterone will shut off your body's natural production. Once you stop receiving the outside source, your levels plummet and your body's own production has not kicked back in. He needs either an experienced physician in restoring natural testosterone levels, an appropriate HRT dosage, or the ability to wait it out and hope that his levels return to pre-usage (or at least normal) levels on their own. I would recommend option one.
Agreed, that's why anyone with a brain jumps right on HCG, clomid , nolva and tribulus post cycle ;)
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The guy was fucked in the head b4 imo.
The guy was fucked in the head b4 imo.
Exactly,I have manic depression so id be the way I am whether id ever used gear or not
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if he stopped doing the juice, we should really consider his dedication.
PCT and breaks are for quitters, everyone knows that
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off the juice? youre not supposed to stop, ever
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if he stopped doing the juice, we should really consider his dedication.
PCT and breaks are for quitters, everyone knows that
HEY!! watch your mouth convict!
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if he stopped doing the juice, we should really consider his dedication.
PCT and breaks are for quitters, everyone knows that
yes :D all drugs, all the time, gh15 approved
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might not be just the drugs... might be underlying factors as well...
was he the alpha male cause he wanted to be.. was he compensating???
I had a good friend of mine... he was prom king, dated the hotest girls in high school and college, D1 baseball player, class president, top 10 graduating high school, he wanted to be a doctor and had the brains to do so.. anyways he was a closet homosexual.. he dad disowned him and he committed suicide... :-[
not saying your friend is gay but maybe hes not really happy
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ego solely based on looks....
No, Totally wrong.. Testosterone plays a major role in a having a feeling of well being.
Thats mainly one way you know you have low estostorne levels..Depression, sleeping too much ect.
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I have a good friend of mine, naturally big and strong (not a pu**y like me :-[).
He was always the alpha male, lots of girls, always happy...you get the picture.
Started training seriously and gained lots of mass while using the juice, and he was really incredible.
He had to quit for health problems and since then fell into deep depression, already tryed two times suicide.
Now in treatement by a specialist doctor.
Is it a common situation to feel down if not on the juice?
You tell you're buddy to go to a dr and get a bottle of testoserone, but only due what is perscribed, which is about 200mg
a week. Juicing all those years shut his system down, and it might not come back, and if it does, may not be for a while.
It had helped me tremendously.
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You tell you're buddy to go to a dr and get a bottle of testoserone, but only due what is perscribed, which is about 200mg
a week. Juicing all those years shut his system down, and it might not come back, and if it does, may not be for a while.
It had helped me tremendously.
lol if that is HRT, quite a bit over what you produce naturally
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ego solely based on looks....
Spot on.
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Wow. Low testosteron brah brah brah.....Low carb brah brah barh..........
Just a weak spirit like fags.
Its a repost but Watch this kid again.
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Either he gets over it now by riding out the shit or he gets on the gear for life.
I found it hard the first year clean, a bit all over the shop but never ever would i try and commit suicide, i would say he needs more in his life than just juicing and bodybuilding.
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Wow. Low testosteron brah brah brah.....Low carb brah brah barh..........
Just a weak spirit like fags.
Didn't you have some mental issues? I think I remember you saying you tried to kill yourself? How did you overcome the faggyness?
PS. Do you replace the L's with R's on purpose as a joke?
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qft
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I have a good friend of mine, naturally big and strong (not a pu**y like me :-[).
He was always the alpha male, lots of girls, always happy...you get the picture.
Started training seriously and gained lots of mass while using the juice, and he was really incredible.
He had to quit for health problems and since then fell into deep depression, already tryed two times suicide.
Now in treatement by a specialist doctor.
Is it a common situation to feel down if not on the juice?
It can be. If your whole identity is defined by something that gets taken away, you're bound to have negative repercussions. Guys whose entire life is built on the attention they get from being "huge" are in for a serious let down once it al goes away...and it will go away.
For me, when I was the most juiced and in my best shape, I remember thinking how it was all temporary. I knew that sooner or later I would be off the sauce and back to being "normal". Once it happened, I had already prepared mentally.
It's getting socked in the stomach. If you get caught of guard, you get the wind knocked out of you and you go down. If you see it coming and braise yourself and take it.
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Yeah but some people get butthurt when you give an assessment about their friends. Seriously being good at other things keeps you going. Take pride in what you do. A lot of people fall into the trap of dedicating 100% of themselves to lifting and pay the price when it doesn't pan out the way they thought it would.
True bodybuilders fully dedicate and commit themselves to the discipline of physical culture. You eat, sleep, breath and shit bodybuilding. It's on your mind 24/7. Money, girls, none of that shit matters. Massive accumulation of heaps of muscle is all that matters even if it means selling your asshole to Schmoes in exchange of a 4-week supply of gh.
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True bodybuilders fully dedicate and commit themselves to the discipline of physical culture. You eat, sleep, breath and shit bodybuilding. It's on your mind 24/7. Money, girls, none of that shit matters. Massive accumulation of heaps of muscle is all that matters even if it means selling your asshole to Schmoes in exchange of a 4-week supply of gh.
what should be done to remedy such a situation?
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what should be done to remedy such a situation?
nothing can be done. It's an egregious decease with a 95% fatality rate.
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nothing can be done. It's an egregious decease with a 95% fatality rate.
terrible news
what happens to the 5% ? :D
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some go on to become movie stars and even governors. Others survive, but end up making a meager living selling pics for $20 at local bbing shows...
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True bodybuilders fully dedicate and commit themselves to the discipline of physical culture. You eat, sleep, breath and shit bodybuilding. It's on your mind 24/7. Money, girls, none of that shit matters. Massive accumulation of heaps of muscle is all that matters even if it means selling your asshole to Schmoes in exchange of a 4-week supply of gh.
yeah it's sad.
sometime I'd like to think some girl didn't say she had bigger arms than me when I was 14 years old and got me super complexed ;D
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yeah it's sad.
sometime I'd like to think some girl didn't say she had bigger arms than me when I was 14 years old and got me super complexed ;D
Bet you could show that bitch now, huh? ;D
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does anyone no here if your adrenals get shut down,does that make your testosterone levels drop to,and someone said that internal trembling can be a sign of weak adrenals and testosterone
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if he stopped doing the juice, we should really consider his dedication.
PCT and breaks are for quitters, everyone knows that
on the money
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Bet you could show that bitch now, huh? ;D
funny thing is I saw her the other day and she said: yuck.. you are way too big now
stupid whore
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People will eventually stop pretending steroids aren't addictive.
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someone said that internal trembling can be a sign of weak adrenals and testosterone
that just means you are a 'fraidy cat.
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People will eventually stop pretending steroids aren't addictive.
they are
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they are
No they're not. The results are addictive.
Yes, coming off sucks, being off sucks and training naturally sucks.
Oh well.
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No they're not. The results are addictive.
Yes, coming off sucks, being off sucks and training naturally sucks.
Oh well.
They are addictive.
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No they're not. The results are addictive.
Yes, coming off sucks, being off sucks and training naturally sucks.
Oh well.
I decided I won't go off for a while ;D
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True bodybuilders fully dedicate and commit themselves to the discipline of physical culture. You eat, sleep, breath and shit bodybuilding. It's on your mind 24/7. Money, girls, none of that shit matters. Massive accumulation of heaps of muscle is all that matters even if it means selling your asshole to Schmoes in exchange of a 4-week supply of gh.
money matters to the extent that gear and food matter
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does anyone no here if your adrenals get shut down,does that make your testosterone levels drop to,and someone said that internal trembling can be a sign of weak adrenals and testosterone
No, don't think so, but the stress that made your adrenals shut down may have had a wide range of hormonal effects that lower your test level (high cortisol over a long time etc.).
CD
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I have a good friend of mine, naturally big and strong (not a pu**y like me :-[).
He was always the alpha male, lots of girls, always happy...you get the picture.
Started training seriously and gained lots of mass while using the juice, and he was really incredible.
He had to quit for health problems and since then fell into deep depression, already tryed two times suicide.
Now in treatement by a specialist doctor.
Is it a common situation to feel down if not on the juice?
tobegin with ,,your friend is not naturally anything,,thiose fellas are the worst abusers of hormones,,their muscles are not developed enough because they count only on hormones to do the work and dont train seroiusly like you say ,,those fellas ar all the same they do it for girls and only for girls and then get sick and either die from abuse of other drugs and alohol or just quit into the nothingness they were supposed to be and back into reality,,if your friend was naturally big he would not be depressed because his minimums would be there to begin with ,,
also most serious lifters and bodybuilders are on gh and gh doesnt let you be depressed,,thats why its so costly and thats why you can be only on gh and still maintain 230lb at 5'10 such as MANY RETIRED PROFESSIONALS
gh15 approved
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tobegin with ,,your friend is not naturally anything,,thiose fellas are the worst abusers of hormones,,their muscles are not developed enough because they count only on hormones to do the work and dont train seroiusly like you say ,,those fellas ar all the same they do it for girls and only for girls and then get sick and either die from abuse of other drugs and alohol or just quit into the nothingness they were supposed to be and back into reality,,if your friend was naturally big he would not be depressed because his minimums would be there to begin with ,,
also most serious lifters and bodybuilders are on gh and gh doesnt let you be depressed,,thats why its so costly and thats why you can be only on gh and still maintain 230lb at 5'10 such as MANY RETIRED PROFESSIONALS
gh15 approved
I agree GH those lifters that don't really love hitting the weights come and go. iv'e seen hundreds of em blow up and come down....and then they are gone
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Didn't you have some mental issues? I think I remember you saying you tried to kill yourself? How did you overcome the faggyness?
PS. Do you replace the L's with R's on purpose as a joke?
Yes. Dont compare with just low testosteron and not being popular and trying to kill himself.
My life time long partner of 15 years mentaly got illed and stupid people around her got her even worse and we were forced to live separated.
My company was built by me and wife with blood and guts. Then when we became wealthy and she has gone.
Since you have never achieved something in your life, you will never ever understand our feeling.
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I have a good friend of mine, naturally big and strong (not a pu**y like me :-[).
He was always the alpha male, lots of girls, always happy...you get the picture.
Started training seriously and gained lots of mass while using the juice, and he was really incredible.
He had to quit for health problems and since then fell into deep depression, already tryed two times suicide.
Now in treatement by a specialist doctor.
Is it a common situation to feel down if not on the juice?
Everyone is different. I always said that if one can't expect the reprecussions that come with being off the gas then one shouldn't go on it in the first place. The more you take, the worse the metabolic lag and the more bullshit you will have to put up with.
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Yes. Dont compare with just low testosteron and not being popular and trying to kill himself.
My life time long partner of 15 years mentaly got illed and stupid people around her got her even worse and we were forced to live separated.
My company was built by me and wife with blood and guts. Then when we became wealthy and she has gone.
Since you have never achieved something in your life, you will never ever understand our feeling.
Man I symphatise with you over that,rough times no doubt
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Gh15...do pro's ever come off the juice during their career?
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money matters to the extent that gear and food matter
money, to a true bodybuilder has a different meaning than it does to the rest of us. When a true bodybuilder see a $1,000, they automatically think...hmmm that's a good sustanon cycle with enough left over for a weeks worth of ground turkey and costco whey protein.
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Yes. Dont compare with just low testosteron and not being popular and trying to kill himself.
My life time long partner of 15 years mentaly got illed and stupid people around her got her even worse and we were forced to live separated.
My company was built by me and wife with blood and guts. Then when we became wealthy and she has gone.
Since you have never achieved something in your life, you will never ever understand our feeling.
I wasn't putting you down. Seriously. The thing is that depression and being suicidal is a complex issue. We don't know the background of the guy mentioned in the original post. I doubt he tried to kill himself just because of low testosterone. Did he have psychological issues before starting steroids, did a relationship fall apart at the time he was extra vulnerable, did he have money problems and etc.
I'm sure many here would have called you a pussy for trying to kill yourself over a chick (that might be how they viewed your situation).
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They are addictive.
In what way?
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In what way?
Dudes will dance naked for other men and suck a dick to keep taking that shit.
What more evidence do you need?
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In what way?
psychologically addictive, not physically addictive.
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psychologically addictive, not physically addictive.
your physique's pretty addictive to me, big fella.
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your physique's pretty addictive to me, big fella.
too bad you're not Dina.
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too bad you're not Dina.
dude, you'd have sex with me if i was Dina?
that's so gay, you want to have sex with a dude!
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dude, you'd have sex with me if i was Dina?
that's so gay, you want to have sex with a dude!
lol.
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dude, you'd have sex with me if i was Dina?
that's so gay, you want to have sex with a dude!
Maybe gayness is a side.
Sort of like gyno of the mind.
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Maybe gayness is a side.
Sort of like gyno of the mind.
most bbrs are ghey. They just don't know it until they find themselves in a cheap hotel room getting tea-bagged by a schmoe.
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most bbrs are ghey. They just don't know it until they find themselves in a cheap hotel room getting tea-bagged by a schmoe.
lmao
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most bbrs are ghey. They just don't know it until they find themselves in a cheap hotel room getting tea-bagged by a schmoe.
At least we know what experience finally made you quit. :)
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At least we know what experience finally made you quit. :)
I was never a true bodybuilder...just a wannabe.
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psychologically addictive, not physically addictive.
Psyche = part of the physical ;) :D
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Psyche = part of the physical ;) :D
nope.
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nope.
Is there a mind apart from the body? :D
It all depends on the definition of addictive. Steroids can be mildly physically addictive. For example sleep may be affected when coming off.
If steroids affect neurotransmitters, which they do, then they affect the mind and brain in a physical sense.
Of course addictive substances usually refer to things that can kill you upon cessation or at least cause severe physical withdrawal symptoms.
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I was never a true bodybuilder...just a wannabe.
Wannabe gettin' those nuts off your forehead. :)
Last week I was talking to someone about reading Dr Seuss to children. Of course I ended up joking about your classic thread and looking like a complete idiot, LOL!
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most bbrs are ghey. They just don't know it until they find themselves in a cheap hotel room getting tea-bagged by a schmoe.
what does tea-bagged means?
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what does tea-bagged means?
you don't want to know...
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It's sad how people can't man up and do it on their own. I saw 3 fools tonight at the gym who obviously were on, now off...looking like mere shadows of their former, also shitty, selves.
Reality is a bitch sometimes..hahah
Just weak minded individuals. I know, everyone is going for an Olympia titles or "going pro", or a "future NFL star"....wise up punks. ;)
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Being off feels as bad as it feels good to be on. :'(
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Juice; because it is good for you:
(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z25/Todesfick/oj.jpg)
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Continue the adex for several weeks after (depending on the ester and hcg use imo), titrating down.
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I have a good friend of mine, naturally big and strong (not a pu**y like me :-[).
He was always the alpha male, lots of girls, always happy...you get the picture.
Started training seriously and gained lots of mass while using the juice, and he was really incredible.
He had to quit for health problems and since then fell into deep depression, already tryed two times suicide.
Now in treatement by a specialist doctor.
Is it a common situation to feel down if not on the juice?
What was he thinking? Stay on forever? If you never get on, you don't ruin your natural levels to begin with.
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What was he thinking? Stay on forever? If you never get on, you don't ruin your natural levels to begin with.
I don't go on because I'll look like shit like now ;D
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I wasn't putting you down. Seriously. The thing is that depression and being suicidal is a complex issue. We don't know the background of the guy mentioned in the original post. I doubt he tried to kill himself just because of low testosterone. Did he have psychological issues before starting steroids, did a relationship fall apart at the time he was extra vulnerable, did he have money problems and etc.
I'm sure many here would have called you a pussy for trying to kill yourself over a chick (that might be how they viewed your situation).
As you say, I hope there was another back ground beside. :-\
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As you say, I hope there was another back ground beside. :-\
Kyomu, you are awesome!
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Kyomu, you are awesome!
bullshit, Kyomu doesn't even like peanutbutter
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bullshit, Kyomu doesn't even like peanutbutter
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I tried to be random like Mars ;D