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Depression while off the juice?
« on: March 30, 2009, 09:58:35 AM »
I have a good friend of mine, naturally big and strong (not a pu**y like me  :-[).

He was always the alpha male, lots of girls, always happy...you get the picture.

Started training seriously and gained lots of mass while using the juice, and he was really incredible.

He had to quit for health problems and since then fell into deep depression, already tryed two times suicide.

Now in treatement by a specialist doctor.

Is it a common situation to feel down if not on the juice?
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Re: Depression while off the juice?
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2009, 10:06:31 AM »
Yep, Life sucks without the juice.
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Re: Depression while off the juice?
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2009, 10:08:42 AM »
uh it's one of the most known sides of steroids. prolly why many never take time off.
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Re: Depression while off the juice?
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2009, 10:09:20 AM »
Quote from: Magnus on March 30, 2009, 09:58:35 AM
I have a good friend of mine, naturally big and strong (not a pu**y like me  :-[).

He was always the alpha male, lots of girls, always happy...you get the picture.

Started training seriously and gained lots of mass while using the juice, and he was really incredible.

He had to quit for helth problems and since then fell into depression, already tryed two times suicide.

Now in treatement by a specialist doctor.

Is it a common situation to feel down if not on the juice?



ego solely based on looks....
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Re: Depression while off the juice?
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2009, 10:10:00 AM »
Not to be a dick, but he sounds weak minded.  Prolly had low self esteem prior to juice.  While cycling it made him feel adequate, then off juice he reverted to a confidence level prior to where he began. 

That's why it's good to have hobbies and other things you're good at outside of weightlifting.
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Re: Depression while off the juice?
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2009, 10:10:28 AM »
Quote from: ProteinFarts! on March 30, 2009, 10:09:20 AM


ego solely based on looks....

that's what bb is all about...right?  :)
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Re: Depression while off the juice?
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2009, 10:11:23 AM »
Quote from: Dballn247 on March 30, 2009, 10:10:00 AM
Not to be a dick, but he sounds weak minded.  Prolly had low self esteem prior to juice.  While cycling it made him feel adequate, then off juice he reverted to a confidence level prior to where he began. 

That's why it's good to have hobbies and other things you're good at outside of weightlifting.

you're not sounding like a dick, you're telling like it is I think.
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Re: Depression while off the juice?
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2009, 10:13:44 AM »
Quote from: Magnus on March 30, 2009, 10:11:23 AM
you're not sounding like a dick, you're telling like it is I think.

Yeah but some people get butthurt when you give an assessment about their friends.  Seriously being good at other things keeps you going.  Take pride in what you do.  A lot of people fall into the trap of dedicating 100% of themselves to lifting and pay the price when it doesn't pan out the way they thought it would.
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Re: Depression while off the juice?
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2009, 10:22:30 AM »
Depressed because he stopped using,  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Re: Depression while off the juice?
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2009, 10:23:55 AM »
attempting to kill yourself twice cause you lost your bloat...... ::)
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Re: Depression while off the juice?
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2009, 10:59:42 AM »
It's not being "off the juice" that is causing your friend's depression, but rather the low testosterone levels that he is now suffering from since stopping. Exogenous testosterone will shut off your body's natural production. Once you stop receiving the outside source, your levels plummet and your body's own production has not kicked back in. He needs either an experienced physician in restoring natural testosterone levels, an appropriate HRT dosage, or the ability to wait it out and hope that his levels return to pre-usage (or at least normal) levels on their own. I would recommend option one.
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Re: Depression while off the juice?
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2009, 11:02:40 AM »
Quote from: Magnus on March 30, 2009, 10:10:28 AM
that's what bb is all about...right?  :)

if you r going THAT route..it'd explain why so many people with busted up faces choose bbing  :-\ ..its a security blanket...

i'm a fat tub of lard right now...but perfectly happy with it  :)
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Re: Depression while off the juice?
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2009, 11:56:44 AM »
Quote from: Dballn247 on March 30, 2009, 10:10:00 AM
Not to be a dick, but he sounds weak minded.  Prolly had low self esteem prior to juice.  While cycling it made him feel adequate, then off juice he reverted to a confidence level prior to where he began. 

That's why it's good to have hobbies and other things you're good at outside of weightlifting.
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yep... i had zero issue quiting it, make sure your pct is correct and long enough and monitored with blood work. Find something else to do with your life,  fishing, racing cars, playing with my kids,  i actually found out what life was when i stopped kidding myself about pro bb'ing.
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Re: Depression while off the juice?
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2009, 12:11:18 PM »
Depression is for the WEAK! Grow some balls Biatch!
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Re: Depression while off the juice?
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2009, 12:21:47 PM »
tried to off himself twice???

get busy livin' or get busy dyin'.....dont pussy foot around.




get him some prozac and give him a swift kick in the ass......
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Re: Depression while off the juice?
« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2009, 12:22:59 PM »
Quote from: Dballn247 on March 30, 2009, 10:10:00 AM
Not to be a dick, but he sounds weak minded.  Prolly had low self esteem prior to juice.  While cycling it made him feel adequate, then off juice he reverted to a confidence level prior to where he began. 

That's why it's good to have hobbies and other things you're good at outside of weightlifting.

Yeah, I was gonna say more or less the same... it's true going on and off cycle does fuck with your head and can lead to some mild depression, but nothing that would lead the guy to suicide...
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Re: Depression while off the juice?
« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2009, 12:26:47 PM »
Quote from: Captain Equipoise on March 30, 2009, 12:22:59 PM
Yeah, I was gonna say more or less the same... it's true going on and off cycle does fuck with your head and can lead to some mild depression, but nothing that would lead the guy to suicide...
The guy was fucked in the head b4 imo.
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Re: Depression while off the juice?
« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2009, 12:32:32 PM »
Quote from: On_Swole on March 30, 2009, 10:59:42 AM
It's not being "off the juice" that is causing your friend's depression, but rather the low testosterone levels that he is now suffering from since stopping. Exogenous testosterone will shut off your body's natural production. Once you stop receiving the outside source, your levels plummet and your body's own production has not kicked back in. He needs either an experienced physician in restoring natural testosterone levels, an appropriate HRT dosage, or the ability to wait it out and hope that his levels return to pre-usage (or at least normal) levels on their own. I would recommend option one.

Agreed, that's why anyone with a brain jumps right on HCG, clomid , nolva and tribulus post cycle ;)
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Re: Depression while off the juice?
« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2009, 12:40:04 PM »
Quote from: elite_lifter on March 30, 2009, 12:26:47 PM
The guy was fucked in the head b4 imo.
Quote from: elite_lifter on March 30, 2009, 12:26:47 PM
The guy was fucked in the head b4 imo.
Exactly,I have manic depression so id be the way I am whether id ever used gear or not

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Re: Depression while off the juice?
« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2009, 12:41:55 PM »
if he stopped doing the juice, we should really consider his dedication.

PCT and breaks are for quitters, everyone knows that
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Re: Depression while off the juice?
« Reply #20 on: March 30, 2009, 12:53:04 PM »
off the juice?   youre not supposed to stop, ever
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Re: Depression while off the juice?
« Reply #21 on: March 30, 2009, 01:41:42 PM »
Quote from: 240 is Back on March 30, 2009, 12:41:55 PM
if he stopped doing the juice, we should really consider his dedication.

PCT and breaks are for quitters, everyone knows that

HEY!! watch your mouth convict!
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Re: Depression while off the juice?
« Reply #22 on: March 30, 2009, 01:47:55 PM »
Quote from: 240 is Back on March 30, 2009, 12:41:55 PM
if he stopped doing the juice, we should really consider his dedication.

PCT and breaks are for quitters, everyone knows that

yes :D all drugs, all the time, gh15 approved
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Re: Depression while off the juice?
« Reply #23 on: March 30, 2009, 01:51:36 PM »
might not be just the drugs... might be  underlying factors as well...
was he the alpha male cause he wanted to be.. was he compensating???

I had a good friend of mine... he was prom king, dated the hotest girls in high school and college, D1 baseball player, class president, top 10 graduating high school, he wanted to be a doctor and had the brains to do so.. anyways he was a closet homosexual.. he dad disowned him and he committed suicide... :-[
not saying your friend is gay but maybe hes not really happy
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Re: Depression while off the juice?
« Reply #24 on: March 30, 2009, 01:56:18 PM »
Quote from: ProteinFarts! on March 30, 2009, 10:09:20 AM


ego solely based on looks....




No, Totally wrong..  Testosterone plays a major role in a having a feeling of well being.
Thats mainly one way you know you have low estostorne levels..Depression, sleeping too much ect.
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