Author Topic: Depression while off the juice? (Read 4672 times)

tbombz · « **Reply #50 on:** March 30, 2009, 10:08:53 PM »

Quote from: MindSpin on March 30, 2009, 04:01:34 PM

True bodybuilders fully dedicate and commit themselves to the discipline of physical culture. You eat, sleep, breath and shit bodybuilding. It's on your mind 24/7. Money, girls, none of that shit matters. Massive accumulation of heaps of muscle is all that matters even if it means selling your asshole to Schmoes in exchange of a 4-week supply of gh.

money matters to the extent that gear and food matter

CoolDuck · « **Reply #51 on:** March 30, 2009, 11:54:25 PM »

Quote from: dodger on March 30, 2009, 06:35:55 PM

does anyone no here if your adrenals get shut down,does that make your testosterone levels drop to,and someone said that internal trembling can be a sign of weak adrenals and testosterone

No, don't think so, but the stress that made your adrenals shut down may have had a wide range of hormonal effects that lower your test level (high cortisol over a long time etc.).

CD

gh15 · « **Reply #52 on:** March 31, 2009, 12:05:13 AM »

Quote from: Magnus on March 30, 2009, 09:58:35 AM

I have a good friend of mine, naturally big and strong (not a pu**y like me ).

He was always the alpha male, lots of girls, always happy...you get the picture.

Started training seriously and gained lots of mass while using the juice, and he was really incredible.

He had to quit for health problems and since then fell into deep depression, already tryed two times suicide.

Now in treatement by a specialist doctor.

Is it a common situation to feel down if not on the juice?

tobegin with ,,your friend is not naturally anything,,thiose fellas are the worst abusers of hormones,,their muscles are not developed enough because they count only on hormones to do the work and dont train seroiusly like you say ,,those fellas ar all the same they do it for girls and only for girls and then get sick and either die from abuse of other drugs and alohol or just quit into the nothingness they were supposed to be and back into reality,,if your friend was naturally big he would not be depressed because his minimums would be there to begin with ,,

also most serious lifters and bodybuilders are on gh and gh doesnt let you be depressed,,thats why its so costly and thats why you can be only on gh and still maintain 230lb at 5'10 such as MANY RETIRED PROFESSIONALS

gh15 approved

Palpatine Q · « **Reply #53 on:** March 31, 2009, 12:08:54 AM »

Quote from: gh15 on March 31, 2009, 12:05:13 AM

tobegin with ,,your friend is not naturally anything,,thiose fellas are the worst abusers of hormones,,their muscles are not developed enough because they count only on hormones to do the work and dont train seroiusly like you say ,,those fellas ar all the same they do it for girls and only for girls and then get sick and either die from abuse of other drugs and alohol or just quit into the nothingness they were supposed to be and back into reality,,if your friend was naturally big he would not be depressed because his minimums would be there to begin with ,,

also most serious lifters and bodybuilders are on gh and gh doesnt let you be depressed,,thats why its so costly and thats why you can be only on gh and still maintain 230lb at 5'10 such as MANY RETIRED PROFESSIONALS

gh15 approved

I agree GH those lifters that don't really love hitting the weights come and go. iv'e seen hundreds of em blow up and come down....and then they are gone

kyomu · « **Reply #54 on:** March 31, 2009, 02:12:50 AM »

Quote from: Van_Bilderass on March 30, 2009, 03:01:42 PM

Didn't you have some mental issues? I think I remember you saying you tried to kill yourself? How did you overcome the faggyness?

PS. Do you replace the L's with R's on purpose as a joke?

Yes. Dont compare with just low testosteron and not being popular and trying to kill himself.
My life time long partner of 15 years mentaly got illed and stupid people around her got her even worse and we were forced to live separated.
My company was built by me and wife with blood and guts. Then when we became wealthy and she has gone.
Since you have never achieved something in your life, you will never ever understand our feeling.

Playboy · « **Reply #55 on:** March 31, 2009, 06:35:28 AM »

Quote from: Magnus on March 30, 2009, 09:58:35 AM

I have a good friend of mine, naturally big and strong (not a pu**y like me ).

He was always the alpha male, lots of girls, always happy...you get the picture.

Started training seriously and gained lots of mass while using the juice, and he was really incredible.

He had to quit for health problems and since then fell into deep depression, already tryed two times suicide.

Now in treatement by a specialist doctor.

Is it a common situation to feel down if not on the juice?

Everyone is different. I always said that if one can't expect the reprecussions that come with being off the gas then one shouldn't go on it in the first place. The more you take, the worse the metabolic lag and the more bullshit you will have to put up with.

The Wizard of Truth · « **Reply #56 on:** March 31, 2009, 06:55:58 AM »

Quote from: kyomu on March 31, 2009, 02:12:50 AM

Yes. Dont compare with just low testosteron and not being popular and trying to kill himself.
My life time long partner of 15 years mentaly got illed and stupid people around her got her even worse and we were forced to live separated.
My company was built by me and wife with blood and guts. Then when we became wealthy and she has gone.
Since you have never achieved something in your life, you will never ever understand our feeling.

Man I symphatise with you over that,rough times no doubt

The Wizard of Truth · « **Reply #57 on:** March 31, 2009, 07:14:02 AM »

Gh15...do pro's ever come off the juice during their career?

MindSpin · « **Reply #58 on:** March 31, 2009, 09:00:03 AM »

Quote from: tbombz on March 30, 2009, 10:08:53 PM

money matters to the extent that gear and food matter

money, to a true bodybuilder has a different meaning than it does to the rest of us. When a true bodybuilder see a $1,000, they automatically think...hmmm that's a good sustanon cycle with enough left over for a weeks worth of ground turkey and costco whey protein.

Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #59 on:** March 31, 2009, 11:56:57 AM »

Quote from: kyomu on March 31, 2009, 02:12:50 AM

Yes. Dont compare with just low testosteron and not being popular and trying to kill himself.
My life time long partner of 15 years mentaly got illed and stupid people around her got her even worse and we were forced to live separated.
My company was built by me and wife with blood and guts. Then when we became wealthy and she has gone.
Since you have never achieved something in your life, you will never ever understand our feeling.

I wasn't putting you down. Seriously. The thing is that depression and being suicidal is a complex issue. We don't know the background of the guy mentioned in the original post. I doubt he tried to kill himself just because of low testosterone. Did he have psychological issues before starting steroids, did a relationship fall apart at the time he was extra vulnerable, did he have money problems and etc.

I'm sure many here would have called you a pussy for trying to kill yourself over a chick (that might be how they viewed your situation).

Wiggs · « **Reply #60 on:** March 31, 2009, 01:27:42 PM »

Quote from: drkaje on March 30, 2009, 09:35:54 PM

They are addictive.

In what way?

drkaje · « **Reply #61 on:** March 31, 2009, 01:50:47 PM »

Quote from: Wiggs on March 31, 2009, 01:27:42 PM

In what way?

Dudes will dance naked for other men and suck a dick to keep taking that shit.

What more evidence do you need?

MindSpin · « **Reply #62 on:** March 31, 2009, 01:54:56 PM »

Quote from: Wiggs on March 31, 2009, 01:27:42 PM

In what way?

psychologically addictive, not physically addictive.

ManBearPig... · « **Reply #63 on:** March 31, 2009, 01:57:15 PM »

Quote from: MindSpin on March 31, 2009, 01:54:56 PM

psychologically addictive, not physically addictive.

your physique's pretty addictive to me, big fella.

MindSpin · « **Reply #64 on:** March 31, 2009, 01:58:52 PM »

Quote from: Power Rod on March 31, 2009, 01:57:15 PM

your physique's pretty addictive to me, big fella.

too bad you're not Dina.

ManBearPig... · « **Reply #65 on:** March 31, 2009, 02:04:05 PM »

Quote from: MindSpin on March 31, 2009, 01:58:52 PM

too bad you're not Dina.

dude, you'd have sex with me if i was Dina?

that's so gay, you want to have sex with a dude!

MindSpin · « **Reply #66 on:** March 31, 2009, 02:15:14 PM »

Quote from: Power Rod on March 31, 2009, 02:04:05 PM

dude, you'd have sex with me if i was Dina?

that's so gay, you want to have sex with a dude!

lol.

drkaje · « **Reply #67 on:** March 31, 2009, 02:22:52 PM »

Quote from: Power Rod on March 31, 2009, 02:04:05 PM

dude, you'd have sex with me if i was Dina?

that's so gay, you want to have sex with a dude!

Maybe gayness is a side.

Sort of like gyno of the mind.

MindSpin · « **Reply #68 on:** March 31, 2009, 03:51:27 PM »

Quote from: drkaje on March 31, 2009, 02:22:52 PM

Maybe gayness is a side.

Sort of like gyno of the mind.

most bbrs are ghey. They just don't know it until they find themselves in a cheap hotel room getting tea-bagged by a schmoe.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #69 on:** March 31, 2009, 03:53:18 PM »

Quote from: MindSpin on March 31, 2009, 03:51:27 PM

most bbrs are ghey. They just don't know it until they find themselves in a cheap hotel room getting tea-bagged by a schmoe.

lmao

drkaje · « **Reply #70 on:** March 31, 2009, 04:20:12 PM »

Quote from: MindSpin on March 31, 2009, 03:51:27 PM

most bbrs are ghey. They just don't know it until they find themselves in a cheap hotel room getting tea-bagged by a schmoe.

At least we know what experience finally made you quit.

MindSpin · « **Reply #71 on:** March 31, 2009, 04:48:46 PM »

Quote from: drkaje on March 31, 2009, 04:20:12 PM

At least we know what experience finally made you quit.

I was never a true bodybuilder...just a wannabe.

Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #72 on:** March 31, 2009, 04:49:17 PM »

Quote from: MindSpin on March 31, 2009, 01:54:56 PM

psychologically addictive, not physically addictive.

Psyche = part of the physical

MindSpin · « **Reply #73 on:** March 31, 2009, 04:50:49 PM »

Quote from: Van_Bilderass on March 31, 2009, 04:49:17 PM

Psyche = part of the physical

nope.

Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #74 on:** March 31, 2009, 04:58:54 PM »

Quote from: MindSpin on March 31, 2009, 04:50:49 PM

nope.

Is there a mind apart from the body?

It all depends on the definition of addictive. Steroids can be mildly physically addictive. For example sleep may be affected when coming off.

If steroids affect neurotransmitters, which they do, then they affect the mind and brain in a physical sense.

Of course addictive substances usually refer to things that can kill you upon cessation or at least cause severe physical withdrawal symptoms.