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The player that was going to say goodbye to his mom before
she died, and was not allowed by a cocky, racist, God Complex cop
resigns. Officer Powell resigned to keep his coworkers from getting harrassed.
He said, and this cop looked like a rookie punk.
They don't build cops like they used too.
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;D
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I have seen the video.
Its seriously nuts, I would go absolutely insane
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Are you going to ask the LVPD to all resign for taking you down , Paul Bunyan? ;D
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Are you going to ask the LVPD to all resign for taking you down , Paul Bunyan? ;D
;D
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If the NFL would have just cooperated and stopped arguing with the cop it would have gone a lot quicker and he would have been able to spend the last few moments with his loved one.
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He shouldn't have ran the light.
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He shouldn't have ran the light.
i think we all would have run the light.
your wife is hysterical in the passenger seat and her mom is dying at that very moment.
no cars are coming, you stop and look both ways and you're 20 seconds from the hospital.
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Are you going to ask the LVPD to all resign for taking you down , Paul Bunyan? ;D
They should train them better, and yes, a cop spitting in my face is assault. He will be fired.
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If the NFL would have just cooperated and stopped arguing with the cop it would have gone a lot quicker and he would have been able to spend the last few moments with his loved one.
Sure. Right. Beat cops are well known for their tact and people skills.
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i think we all would have run the light.
your wife is hysterical in the passenger seat and her mom is dying at that very moment.
no cars are coming, you stop and look both ways and you're 20 seconds from the hospital.
+100% agree.
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Rubbing the light is an invitation for the cop to be an asshole.
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The cop was well within his right to stop this guy when he violated the law. However, most reasonable people would have let this guy go and then follow him to the hospital. Thats the right thing to do. I think it was bad decision by the officer....but what if the guy was lying? I mean, its turns out he wasn't...but how many people come up with BS excuses when cops pull them over? It happens to cops every day.
Even if we think the cop overstepped his bounds, No way in hell should this young cop be forced to resign, thats completely unfair. I think we have the benefit of hindsight here. If the mother-in-law didn't die, this wouldn't be a story.
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The cop was well within his right to stop this guy when he violated the law. However, most reasonable people would have let this guy go and then follow him to the hospital. Thats the right thing to do. I think it was bad decision by the officer....but what if the guy was lying? I mean, its turns out he wasn't...but how many people come up with BS excuses when cops pull them over? It happens to cops every day.
Even if we think the cop overstepped his bounds, No way in hell should this young cop be forced to resign, thats completely unfair. I think we have the benefit of hindsight here. If the mother-in-law didn't die, this wouldn't be a story.
The NFL guy wasn't lying.The Mother did die.
The pig was gun weilding freak. He did everyone a favor by quiting, before he killed somebody for not wearing their seat belt.
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The cop was well within his right to stop this guy when he violated the law. However, most reasonable people would have let this guy go and then follow him to the hospital. Thats the right thing to do. I think it was bad decision by the officer....but what if the guy was lying
Cops need to be reasonable. There are always circumstances. All the cop needed to do was go to the hospital with him, especially when he can see the situation. You DO NOT get these type of excuses all o the time, in fact, very rare.
Unfortunately, this cop blew it, and picked the wrong person to screw with. And the cop forgot it was being taped.
The cop resigned, he apoligized and the stress of the job got to him.
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A guy rushing to the hospital doesn't sound like an emergency at all. ::) I hope more piece of sh*t cops are fired in the future.
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Why would anybody want to be a cop?
I have always wondered how life would be without cops?
good, bad, I don't know...
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He shouldn't have ran the light.
someone in my family is in trouble i'm running over anyone in my way to get there.
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I have seen the video.
Its seriously nuts, I would go absolutely insane
Link to video?
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Ok Tommy...but we have the benefit of hindsight here. The cop did not know if the story was true or as dire as they made it seem...and even if the cop believed him, he would then choose to allow the law to be broken because of a greater emotional issue, which is fine. I already said that the cop should have let the NFL player go, and we all know cops can sometimes be assh-les but I don't think the cop should have been pushed out of the force for this incident alone. If this was one of many examples of this cop pushing his weight around, then glad he's gone. Thats not what was reported.
Also, what in particular made this incident racist? Did the cop use racial terms? (I may have missed that part if so)
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we pay there salary.. they are to protect and serve they seem to forget there place
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Ok Tommy...but we have the benefit of hindsight here. The cop did not know if the story was true and even if he believed him, its an act of allowing the law to be broken because of a greater emotional issue. I already said that the cop should have let the NFL player go, and we all know cops can sometimes be assh-les but I don't think the cop should have been pushed out of the force for this incident alone. If this was one of many examples of this cop pushing his weight around, then glad he's gone. Thats not what was reported.
i read this was the second time he has been on administrated leave.. for lack of judgment before
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someone in my family is in trouble i'm running over anyone in my way to get there.
QO, Always a wise ass
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QO, Always a wise ass
that's truth right there, not sarcasm.
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The cop was well within his right to stop this guy when he violated the law. However, most reasonable people would have let this guy go and then follow him to the hospital. Thats the right thing to do. I think it was bad decision by the officer....but what if the guy was lying? I mean, its turns out he wasn't...but how many people come up with BS excuses when cops pull them over? It happens to cops every day.
Even if we think the cop overstepped his bounds, No way in hell should this young cop be forced to resign, thats completely unfair. I think we have the benefit of hindsight here. If the mother-in-law didn't die, this wouldn't be a story.
Lets see here, a nurse, the hospital security, and a doctor came out and STILL the cop would not let him go. With evidence like this, THE COP IS NOT FIT TO BE A COP!
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Cops need to be reasonable. There are always circumstances. All the cop needed to do was go to the hospital with him, especially when he can see the situation. You DO NOT get these type of excuses all o the time, in fact, very rare.
Unfortunately, this cop blew it, and picked the wrong person to screw with. And the cop forgot it was being taped.
The cop resigned, he apoligized and the stress of the job got to him.
Ron, the cop pulled him over IN THE HOSPITal Parking lot, a nurse came out, security said it was true TO THE COP, as well as I believe a DR as well.
The cop was a punk cock sucker, you can see it in his face on the picture released.
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I just watched that video above. The cop is a wise ass and the NFL player also handled the situation poorly. The NFL player is understandably upset that he was stopped for running the light but continues to argue and run his mouth the whole time while the cop is talking to him. The cop is much more calm but I didn't like him saying "shut your mouth" either. That would piss me off too.
Overall, its an unfortunate situation. When you are pulled over, you shouldn't argue like this guy did, which escalated the situation. It would have been better if the NFL player said "officer, my Mother-in-law is dying, please allow me go and you can follow me if you'd like to verify". I think the officer should be reprimanded, perhaps suspended, but not forced to leave.
And nowhere did I see anything that implies racism...thats the least debateable part of this. Why was that brought up? Because a white cop pulled over a black citizen? Bad call there.
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I didn't see that, but if hospital personel verified the situation, the cop should have let him go immediately IMO.
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the cop was an a-hole, no question about it!
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Why is he accused of being "racist?" I've watched the vid and didn't notice anything. If you people think he is racist, hahaha, oh brother......hahaha
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After hearing all the facts, thats the only question that remains.
What in the hell made this racist?
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racist no....lack of good judgement yes
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The guy was a prick...... plain and simple...... the cop was white and the football player was black...... you have to ask yourself if this cop has a superiority complex and thinks he is king shit....... he might be racist too. Many cops are racist, not all but many are.
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After hearing all the facts, thats the only question that remains?
What in the hell made this racist?
Because a white cop pulled over a black guy and acted like an idiot, I guess.
I had a cop tell me one time that he was arresting a black guy and their was a token "ghetto crowd" that was hanging around, one of them yelled "Why you always arresting a brotha?" His response "Cause you are the ones commiting the crimes!" ;D
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"racist no....lack of good judgement yes"
Agreed.
The video has racist in the title, I saw it labeled racist somewhere else on the net and heard racism mentioned on one of the news stations. That term is way over used. It needs to be used only when appropriate so it can be dealt with harshly. Throwing that term around like we have done in recent years devalues it.
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Because a white cop pulled over a black guy and acted like an idiot, I guess.
I had a cop tell me one time that he was arresting a black guy and their was a token "ghetto crowd" that was hanging around, one of them yelled "Why you always arresting a brotha?" His response "Cause you are the ones commiting the crimes!" ;D
He isnt a racist...He pulled over Zach Thomas' wife for making an illegal U turn...the same guy..Put her in jail for it, she didnt even have a suspended license. He had a "God complex."
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racist no....lack of good judgement yes
I am certain that if a black cop had pulled this football player over, a black cop would have given him permission to go see the dying mother in law. I am white and I will stand by this statement. Racism is alive and well, with many police officers in many cities.
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But you cannot call racism on this case based on the evidence here.
Mal, who is Zach Thomas? How the hell can he put someone in jail for a simple traffic violation?
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He isnt a racist...He pulled over Zach Thomas' wife for making an illegal U turn...the same guy..Put her in jail for it, she didnt even have a suspended license. He had a "God complex."
But mal, maybe he heard that Zach's sister was married to Jason Taylor soooooo....... ;D
I don't think the guy is a racist. And he sure doesn't have the disposition to be a good cop.
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Zach Thomas, the NFL linebacker.
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Ok Tommy...but we have the benefit of hindsight here. The cop did not know if the story was true or as dire as they made it seem...and even if the cop believed him, he would then choose to allow the law to be broken because of a greater emotional issue, which is fine. I already said that the cop should have let the NFL player go, and we all know cops can sometimes be assh-les but I don't think the cop should have been pushed out of the force for this incident alone. If this was one of many examples of this cop pushing his weight around, then glad he's gone. Thats not what was reported.
Also, what in particular made this incident racist? Did the cop use racial terms? (I may have missed that part if so)
Hi SF. We just disagree, that's all. IMO the cop had all the info he needed right in front of him, to come to the correct conclusion...
*Vehicle stopped in the hospital parking lot.
*Old lady and wife in the vehicle.
*NFL guy is clearly emotional.
*Old lady and wife are clearly emotional.
*NFL guy presented zero threat to anyone.
...and the cop still threatens the guy with deadly force? The cop is unstable and a menace to society.
TWB
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I have a lot of buddies that are police officers in Cleveland. its a tough job in the city, particularly where many of them work. Most of these guys aren't racist but because of past experience, if they see someone looking ghetto, they are extra suspicious and take the necessary precautions to protect themself.
Last month, my buddy told me he pulled this guy over for speeding. As he got to the car he drew his pistol cause something didn't look right (was ghetto dressed black dude, I don't know more details). Turns out the guy had reached for a pistol under the seat and was raising it just as my buddy decided to draw his gun as he got to the window. This is a simple traffic stop.
So the guy has a pistol pointing through the lower end of the door and my buddy then pointed his pistol at this guy's head. My buddy is a bit crazy and must of convinced the guy that he was going to shoot him and the guy dropped the gun. He then cuffed him and took him away. This is some of the shit these guys have to deal with and why they sometimes over-react in certain situations... to protect themselves based on past situations with idiots. It doesn't justify treating people wrong but is street smart in certain situations. (That story does not apply to this case, just providing a reason for certain instances of reasonable profiling).
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Tommy, I don't disagree anymore. If the hospital staff was there and provided justification, thats enough for me.
I was more or less presenting another side to consider before that info. Everyone jumped on this guy so quickly because of the outcome (which is hindsight).
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He shouldn't have ran the light.
He didn't. went though slowly with his hazards on. Perfectly reasonable considering the circumstances. This cop was 100% wrong.
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Ok Tommy...but we have the benefit of hindsight here. The cop did not know if the story was true or as dire as they made it seem...and even if the cop believed him, he would then choose to allow the law to be broken because of a greater emotional issue, which is fine. I already said that the cop should have let the NFL player go, and we all know cops can sometimes be assh-les but I don't think the cop should have been pushed out of the force for this incident alone. If this was one of many examples of this cop pushing his weight around, then glad he's gone. Thats not what was reported.
Also, what in particular made this incident racist? Did the cop use racial terms? (I may have missed that part if so)
The nurses came out and told the cop the mother was dying....watch the video....cop is 100% wrong. He spoke down to Moet from the second he pulled him over.
In regards to your claims about Moets above, he was far more calm and respectful than he could have been. He did 100% nothing wrong and your not looking at this event from an unbiased perspective. My brother is a cop and I find the actions of the officer in question disgusting. The video says it all....the cop is a fucking asshole from the first second.
I never buy in to the race acrd thing with cops....it's bullshit most of the time....but here? It's warrented to at least talk about.
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Blah blah blah says all the people with ZERO LE experience. Look at it from the Cops perspective. A pimped out SUV runs a red light. When he pulls over the driver tells you to F@$K off, the passengers jump out, disregard your order to stay in the vehicle and run inside a hospital. I would be thinking at that point "stolen vehicle". He did everything by the book up to the point that hospital staff confirmed that the mother was indeed dying. Of course the race card was pulled here... ::) As usual.. Lord forbid any accountability... In the end BOTH parties were to blame to some degree. The chief of Police had NO backbone of support for his officer... Sad for both people. One out a job the other out a mother in law...
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Blah blah blah says all the people with ZERO LE experience. Look at it from the Cops perspective. A pimped out SUV runs a red light. When he pulls over the driver tells you to F@$K off, the passengers jump out, disregard your order to stay in the vehicle and run inside a hospital. I would be thinking at that point "stolen vehicle". He did everything by the book up to the point that hospital staff confirmed that the mother was indeed dying. Of course the race card was pulled here... ::) As usual.. Lord forbid any accountability... In the end BOTH parties were to blame to some degree. The chief of Police had NO backbone of support for his officer... Sad for both people. One out a job the other out a mother in law...
Oh brother....
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He didn't. went though slowly with his hazards on. Perfectly reasonable considering the circumstances. This cop was 100% wrong.
Slowing down and putting on your hazards doesn't give someone the legal right to run a red light.
Reminds me of the joke....cop pulls someone over for slowing down and going thru a stop sign (redlight). Person says there is no difference. Cop starts beating them with a baton and says "do you want me to stop or slow down?"
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Slowing down and putting on your hazards doesn't give someone the legal right to run a red light.
Reminds me of the joke....cop pulls someone over for slowing down and going thru a stop sign (redlight). Person says there is no difference. Cop starts beating them with a baton and says "do you want me to stop or slow down?"
I didn't say it did.....but it's being described like Moets sped through a redlight. Sorry, if my mother in law was on her death bed, and my wife was hysterical beside me, I might do the same thing. The video don't lie, it's 100% clear this cop was in the wrong. It is what it is. What the cop should have done was let Moets go inside to see his mother in law and ticketed him at a later date. It was all on video.
The cop was trying to be a prick.....it's not rocket science. I can see why Moets was pulled over, but anything after that is fucked up.
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I didn't say it did.....but it's being described like Moets sped through a redlight. Sorry, if my mother in law was on her death bed, and my wife was hysterical beside me, I might do the same thing. The video don't lie, it's 100% clear this cop was in the wrong. It is what it is. What the cop should have done was let Moets go inside to see his mother and law and ticketed him at a later date. It was all on video.
I agree. I would probably do the same thing....but there was nothing out of line about the cop pulling him over...it was after he found out why Moats ran the light, that he should have let him go and just written the ticket, like you said.
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Blah blah blah says all the people with ZERO LE experience. Look at it from the Cops perspective. A pimped out SUV runs a red light. When he pulls over the driver tells you to F@$K off, the passengers jump out, disregard your order to stay in the vehicle and run inside a hospital. I would be thinking at that point "stolen vehicle". He did everything by the book up to the point that hospital staff confirmed that the mother was indeed dying. Of course the race card was pulled here... ::) As usual.. Lord forbid any accountability... In the end BOTH parties were to blame to some degree. The chief of Police had NO backbone of support for his officer... Sad for both people. One out a job the other out a mother in law...
I agree.
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I agree.
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fucking homo cop can now bus tables. LOSER!!!!
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The Cop, Robert Powell
(http://www.blogcdn.com/nfl.fanhouse.com/media/2009/04/robert-powell-dallas-pd-150.jpg)
Myspace
(http://www.blogcdn.com/nfl.fanhouse.com/media/2009/03/police-tattoo-arm.jpg)
http://www.myspace.com/powellrob2002
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Public Servant < Sovereign Citizen People forget that this country was founded on liberty... >:(
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The player that was going to say goodbye to his mom before
she died, and was not allowed by a cocky, racist, God Complex cop
resigns. Officer Powell resigned to keep his coworkers from getting harrassed.
He said, and this cop looked like a rookie punk.
They don't build cops like they used too.
It wasnt his mother, it was his mother in-law. Its a win win for the player, dead mother in law and no awkward last goodbye pretending to be broken up.
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The Cop, Robert Powell
(http://www.blogcdn.com/nfl.fanhouse.com/media/2009/04/robert-powell-dallas-pd-150.jpg)
Myspace
(http://www.blogcdn.com/nfl.fanhouse.com/media/2009/03/police-tattoo-arm.jpg)
http://www.myspace.com/powellrob2002
Looks like the image for a Hitler Youth rally poster.
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american cops are fucking idiots who show no compassion, i watch those prison and cop shows and they will taser women for nothing... strong not caring
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I didn't see that, but if hospital personel verified the situation, the cop should have let him go immediately IMO.
WHat you dont see is the cop pulled his gun on the playerrs wife and other people in the car. He is uncompassionate and racist cop who is high on his power trip!
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I was more on Moats side until I watched the video. Could the officer have waited to write the ticket? Yes. He wasn't acting terrible or breaking any rules as a LE officer so he should have stayed on the force. There were no grounds to fire him beside pressure from the community. I've seen and heard worse. If Moats wasn't an NFL player this would not be a huge issue.
You have discretion as an officer and he could have used it there and let him go but when you are dealing with an agitated man like that, HIS demeanor is going to dictate YOURS. It's over anyway. Good luck to this guy trying to get another LE job after this.
He pulled his weapon for officer safety. The scene is not controlled and their are multiple potential suspects who may or may not be armed. Look at the random traffic stop in Oakland that left five officers dead, two of whom were making a traffic stop.
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I was more on Moats side until I watched the video. Could the officer have waited to write the ticket? Yes. He wasn't acting terrible or breaking any rules as a LE officer so he should have stayed on the force. There were no grounds to fire him beside pressure from the community. I've seen and heard worse. If Moats wasn't an NFL player this would not be a huge issue.
You have discretion as an officer and he could have used it there and let him go but when you are dealing with an agitated man like that, HIS demeanor is going to dictate YOURS. It's over anyway. Good luck to this guy trying to get another LE job after this.
He pulled his weapon for officer safety. The scene is not controlled and their are multiple potential suspects who may or may not be armed. Look at the random traffic stop in Oakland that left five officers dead, two of whom were making a traffic stop.
the guy went through a red light with his hazards on at like 15 mph....pulled up to a hospital....and his wife and her 70 year old father got out of the car. No excuse....none.
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You guys dont understand, the cop drew his weapon at the family when he got out of the car!
Even a PLano officer tld that cop that the guys mother in law was dying!
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@ cap. downtown oakland is like an er parking lot in dallas?
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I must say it's quite refreshing to see a thread not littered with racism when speaking about a potential black/white issue.
There is hope yet... :D
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fuck that cop.
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Quitting is for pussies.
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Just a lapse of judgement. The NFL player also didn't make it easier.
Nothing racist about that.
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Looks like the image for a Hitler Youth rally poster.
hahahaha that guy is a qeef.
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All I'm sayin is that if it were me, I would have been polite and the officer likely would have quickly given me a ticket and then cut me loose, or he would have just let me go.
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All I'm sayin is that if it were me, I would have been polite and the officer likely would have quickly given me a ticket and then cut me loose, or he would have just let me go.
must suck being black and driving a Cadillac.
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I must say it's quite refreshing to see a thread not littered with racism when speaking about a potential black/white issue.
There is hope yet... :D
That's because most here hate douchebag cops who abuse their authority more than they hate kneegrows. Don't worry, though... I can assure you the racism will return in upcoming threads! :D
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All I'm sayin is that if it were me, I would have been polite and the officer likely would have quickly given me a ticket and then cut me loose, or he would have just let me go.
Tough to be "polite" when you have a relative dying and you're already amped up from rushing to get there. ::)
If it were just a normal day, sure, you'd be charming and polite, and get out quickly... maybe even get off with a warning. For Moats, it was far from a normal day, and any one of us could have found ourselves in the same situation. That's why this story is resonating with so many people.
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I respectfully disagree Goatboy. I maybe would have wanted to act out like he did, but I would know that that would just take longer. I would have to hold back if I wanted to see my loved one again. I think because of his ethnic culture and the fact he is an NFL player he felt entitled.
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calfzilla must have brown eyes
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calfzilla must have brown eyes
Not so much the color of my eyes that is improtant, it's the color of my skin!
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I respectfully disagree Goatboy. I maybe would have wanted to act out like he did, but I would know that that would just take longer. I would have to hold back if I wanted to see my loved one again. I think because of his ethnic culture and the fact he is an NFL player he felt entitled.
When you have a really extreme circumstance, like a close loved one dying, everyone feels entitled. If I were in that situation, in the heat of the moment I wouldn't give two shits about the clock-puncher beat cop and his stupid red light either, and I'm normally as white-bread law-abiding as they come.
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haha, pull up your got damn pant's homo!
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white cop couldn't believe the black guy was hung like a horse. lol you can actually see the cops self esteem drop to nothing in that vid. plus now all his friends are going to rip on him. poor guy.
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I'm surprised that a married man actually cared that much about his mother-in-law. ;D
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But you cannot call racism on this case based on the evidence here.
Mal, who is Zach Thomas? How the hell can he put someone in jail for a simple traffic violation?
Zach Thomas was playing Middle Linebacker for Dallas cowboys last year. His wife was pulled over for a U turn and spent a few hours in JAIL because if it...Old Officer Powell
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Lol at those grasping at straws trying to defend this idiot cop. Just admit it, the guy fucked up bad.....it doesent mean that all cops are bad or even racist, it means that this one asshole did what most bad apples do: he acted like an asshole, talked down to a man because he happened to be black and driving a nice car and he did one of the stupidest things I have ever seen by refusing to let this guy see his dying mother-in-law after another cop and hospital staff came out to plead with him. I have never had a gun drawn on me for running a redlight! Thats not protocol, lol.
Moat running the redlight did warrent him being pulled over, but considering this retard cop pulled out his gun and initiated conversation with Moat in an aggressive manner makes this whole thing his fault. Moat creeped though the redlight with his hazards on and had his story cooroberated by hospital staff and another officer....cops are meant to protect and serve and they are supposed to help people in distress. This is how it should have went. I dont buy in to the "all cops are bad crap".....but this shit was fucked up.
Sir please step out of the vehicle:
Moats: My mother-in-law is dying I have to go!!!!!
Sir: please calm down, I pulled you over for running that redlight...can the hospital confirm your story?
Moats: Tells wife to go in and get hospital staff to verify (wife is crying going nuts - walking away)...cop tells father (who is calm) to do this.
Staff comes out
Moats: Please let me go, I need to get up there!!!!
Sir: Calm down, as soon as hospital staff comes out and verifies your story I will let you go see your mother
Staff confirms story
Sir: leave me with your keys, your id and your wallet. I will write you a ticket and I will leave that ticket and your wallet with the front desk.
Officer calls for backup
Thats how it should have went, period.
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I was more on Moats side until I watched the video. Could the officer have waited to write the ticket? Yes. He wasn't acting terrible or breaking any rules as a LE officer so he should have stayed on the force. There were no grounds to fire him beside pressure from the community. I've seen and heard worse. If Moats wasn't an NFL player this would not be a huge issue.
You have discretion as an officer and he could have used it there and let him go but when you are dealing with an agitated man like that, HIS demeanor is going to dictate YOURS. It's over anyway. Good luck to this guy trying to get another LE job after this.
He pulled his weapon for officer safety. The scene is not controlled and their are multiple potential suspects who may or may not be armed. Look at the random traffic stop in Oakland that left five officers dead, two of whom were making a traffic stop.
Bullshit. Officer powell is nothnin but a loser kid. Should never have been a cop. He couold have been a hero, but intead, deciced to be a reacist.
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will one of you guys who keeps talking about racist, please explain why?
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I think the cop continued to over react and push his weight around because Moats was resisting and interrupting, you can't say it was racial based on the video. Looks like Moats also got out of the car, which violates traffic stop protocol. If the cop is on a power trip, which seems very possible here, the situation escalated because the people were not following his orders. Instead of looking at the whole situation, the cop probably felt they were being verbally combative and pushed his authority. This is pretty clear from the video. Clearly, the cop did not handle this situation well. However, Moats could have handled himself a little better after he was pulled over. Many cops don't like when people argue with them.
Gotta say, what kind of tool would tatoo his badge on his arm? That does tell you a lot about the cop IMO.
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I think the cop continued to over react and push his weight around because Moats was resisting and interrupting, you can't say it was racial based on the video. Looks like Moats also got out of the car, which violates traffic stop protocol. If the cop is on a power trip, which seems very possible here, the situation escalated because the people were not following his orders. Instead of looking at the whole situation, the cop probably felt they were being verbally combative and pushed his authority. This is pretty clear from the video. Clearly, the cop did not handle this situation well. However, Moats could have handled himself a little better after he was pulled over. Many cops don't like when people argue with them.
Gotta say, what kind of tool would tatoo his badge on his arm? That does tell you a lot about the cop IMO.
He isnt racist..just crazy, Check it out
According to The Morning News, Maritza Thomas was pulled over on July 27, 2008, by Officer Robert Powell for an illegal U-turn. She was issued five tickets, four of which were later dismissed. She was handcuffed, placed in the back of a police cruiser, spent about three hours in the Dallas County Jail and threatened with the possibility of spending the night behind bars.
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He isnt racist..just crazy, Check it out
According to The Morning News, Maritza Thomas was pulled over on July 27, 2008, by Officer Robert Powell for an illegal U-turn. She was issued five tickets, four of which were later dismissed. She was handcuffed, placed in the back of a police cruiser, spent about three hours in the Dallas County Jail and threatened with the possibility of spending the night behind bars.
Thanks mal. these guys keep yelling "racist!" and I don't see anything in the vid that makes me think that. Idiot? Yes Thoughtless? Yes Racist? No
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Thanks mal. these guys keep yelling "racist!" and I don't see anything in the vid that makes me think that. Idiot? Yes Thoughtless? Yes Racist? No
Im like trying to post that, but no one is hearing me. Dude is just crazy. 4 tickets for a U turn and then jail time... thats just dumb. And it was a woman...he needed to be fired
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Im like trying to post that, but no one is hearing me. Dude is just crazy. 4 tickets for a U turn and then jail time... thats just dumb. And it was a woman...he needed to be fired
I think a lot of these fellas have no idea what a REAL cracker is! hahaha
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I think a lot of these fellas have no idea what a REAL cracker is! hahaha
Right. I live in Atlanta. And its cool here. But outside of atlanta...Lord have mercy. Some of these white dudes are blatant with their racism. I was in Douglas county (west of atlanta) and i was pulled over. I had a bottle of Hennesy (yes im a kneegrow) and it wasnt open. Well i was pulled over (1990 Mustang with crome wheels) and he said this car looked fimiliar and it might have been used in a Robbery a month ago. I informed him that its impossible because i was in California a month ago and i still had Cali plates. Well he asked me why i was in Atlanta and i told him i was in school. Well was like "what im supposed to let you go because you to go college" and my friend was like "man we werent even doing anything " just then the cop yelled "BOY DONT TALK BACK, YOU KNOW WHERE YOU AT YOU AINT IN LIBERAL CALIFORNIA" Then he wrote a ticket for open container and i was like "its not open, look and i showed him the bottle with the seal on it, he took the bottle opened it and poured some out, and then said, "looks open to me". Well thats where it ended. I didnt want to complain because i didnt want to make more trouble for myself. To me that was the definition of a racist cop.
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"cooperate or take u 2 jail"... what a piece of shit pig!! peices of shit like that "fried donut" give police officers a bad rep all over
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Right. I live in Atlanta. And its cool here. But outside of atlanta...Lord have mercy. Some of these white dudes are blatant with their racism. I was in Douglas county (west of atlanta) and i was pulled over. I had a bottle of Hennesy (yes im a kneegrow) and it wasnt open. Well i was pulled over (1990 Mustang with crome wheels) and he said this car looked fimiliar and it might have been used in a Robbery a month ago. I informed him that its impossible because i was in California a month ago and i still had Cali plates. Well he asked me why i was in Atlanta and i told him i was in school. Well was like "what im supposed to let you go because you to go college" and my friend was like "man we werent even doing anything " just then the cop yelled "BOY DONT TALK BACK, YOU KNOW WHERE YOU AT YOU AINT IN LIBERAL CALIFORNIA" Then he wrote a ticket for open container and i was like "its not open, look and i showed him the bottle with the seal on it, he took the bottle opened it and poured some out, and then said, "looks open to me". Well thats where it ended. I didnt want to complain because i didnt want to make more trouble for myself. To me that was the definition of a racist cop.
as soon as the "boy" comment comes out, you can pretty much assume it's a race thing. When they talk to us white boys its "son" and then you know you are headed for trouble unless there is a lot of "yes, sir" and "no,sir" going on. Hate that it happened to you and your friend, but sounds like you handled it really well. Sadly, it's decent guys like you who get f'd with, when the real problems seldom do.
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The cop was well within his right to stop this guy when he violated the law. However, most reasonable people would have let this guy go and then follow him to the hospital. Thats the right thing to do. I think it was bad decision by the officer....but what if the guy was lying? I mean, its turns out he wasn't...but how many people come up with BS excuses when cops pull them over? It happens to cops every day.
Even if we think the cop overstepped his bounds, No way in hell should this young cop be forced to resign, thats completely unfair. I think we have the benefit of hindsight here. If the mother-in-law didn't die, this wouldn't be a story.
What about when a nurse came out of the hospital and explained the situation?
What about when a security guard came out and told the cop they were telling the truth?
What about when another cop came to the scene and sided with the couple?
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What about when a nurse came out of the hospital and explained the situation?
What about when a security guard came out and told the cop they were telling the truth?
What about when another cop came to the scene and sided with the couple?
Damn right. He will NEVER EVER be able to have his peace with his mom.
Thats why the police chief reccommended I'm sure that he resign. Cause they were
gonna fire his ass, and at least he will get some severence pay.
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Damn right. He will NEVER EVER be able to have his peace with his mom.
Thats why the police chief reccommended I'm sure that he resign. Cause they were
gonna fire his ass, and at least he will get some severence pay.
Mother-in-law.....
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Mother-in-law.....
I hear Negros are closer to wifes family than whites.
I'am with my mother in law, she's Hungarian.
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I respectfully disagree Goatboy. I maybe would have wanted to act out like he did, but I would know that that would just take longer. I would have to hold back if I wanted to see my loved one again. I think because of his ethnic culture and the fact he is an NFL player he felt entitled.
Jesus, you're fucking stupid. ::)
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What about when a nurse came out of the hospital and explained the situation?
What about when a security guard came out and told the cop they were telling the truth?
What about when another cop came to the scene and sided with the couple?
Have you read any of my other posts? Obviously not. I agreed, several times now, that the cop was wrong. Moats could have made the situation easier but the cop should have handled the situation better, particularly when someone from the hospital verified the situation. That was not in the original video and most of us commented on the original video (which is probably the first part of the situation).
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Mal, that story sucks. I suppose guys like us who live in big cities aren't used to that stuff. I guess backwoods racists are still around.
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Mal, that story sucks. I suppose guys like us who live in big cities aren't used to that stuff. I guess backwoods racists are still around.
Oh no its cool. I dont mind. i played it cool. If i got ugly then the situation would have been bad
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Its not cool...but you were smart in that situation, agreed.
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I think the cop continued to over react and push his weight around because Moats was resisting and interrupting, you can't say it was racial based on the video. Looks like Moats also got out of the car, which violates traffic stop protocol. If the cop is on a power trip, which seems very possible here, the situation escalated because the people were not following his orders. Instead of looking at the whole situation, the cop probably felt they were being verbally combative and pushed his authority. This is pretty clear from the video. Clearly, the cop did not handle this situation well. However, Moats could have handled himself a little better after he was pulled over. Many cops don't like when people argue with them.
Gotta say, what kind of tool would tatoo his badge on his arm? That does tell you a lot about the cop IMO.
It's part of a cops job to be understanding and know how to calm a man who is clearly in distress.....not create a pissing match, because he "doesent like to be talked to a certain way".
It's over and the cop got what was coming to him..
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We had a very high ranking state trooper officer living near here in a nicer neighborhood and commuting to work... One day a local cop pulled him over and offered assistance. Apparently he was driving in the wrong neighborhood so the cop thought he was lost and offered directions to the poor side of town. :) Someone had a very long, uncomfortable talking to because the trooper went all the way through his hain of command to make a point.
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What about when a nurse came out of the hospital and explained the situation?
What about when a security guard came out and told the cop they were telling the truth?
What about when another cop came to the scene and sided with the couple?
Have you read any of my other posts? Obviously not. I agreed, several times now, that the couple were wrong. Moats could have made the situation easier but the cop should have handled the situation better, particularly when someone from the hospital verified the situation. That was not in the original video and most of us commented on the original video (which is probably the first part of the situation).
The guy should have been allowed in to see his mother-in-law die. I realize there is the chance that a person is lying about the situation, but when numerous people in positions of authority regarding the situation plead with the cop that the couple is telling the truth, the cop should maybe consider that they're not lying.
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Have you read any of my other posts? Obviously not. I agreed, several times now, that the cop was wrong. Moats could have made the situation easier but the cop should have handled the situation better, particularly when someone from the hospital verified the situation. That was not in the original video and most of us commented on the original video (which is probably the first part of the situation).
Stop blaming Moats. ::)
Easy to be calm and cool when a relative is dying. ::) Just admit the cop was out of line and his resignation was in order.
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Can anyone get this powells email or faceboo,
I'd like to see whtat thiws punk has tto say.
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Can anyone get this powells email or faceboo,
I'd like to see whtat thiws punk has tto say.
are you drunk?
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Last psst for me.
You pull someone ovf in the hospital.
they say someone is dying.
What normal men would do. find out who is dying,
and try to help. Not smartmouth the victim "Ill put you in prison". LOL
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I agree.
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fucking homo cop can now bus tables. LOSER!!!!
Epic miss quote...
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Lol at those grasping at straws trying to defend this idiot cop. Just admit it, the guy fucked up bad.....it doesent mean that all cops are bad or even racist, it means that this one asshole did what most bad apples do: he acted like an asshole, talked down to a man because he happened to be black and driving a nice car and he did one of the stupidest things I have ever seen by refusing to let this guy see his dying mother-in-law after another cop and hospital staff came out to plead with him. I have never had a gun drawn on me for running a redlight! Thats not protocol, lol.
Moat running the redlight did warrent him being pulled over, but considering this retard cop pulled out his gun and initiated conversation with Moat in an aggressive manner makes this whole thing his fault. Moat creeped though the redlight with his hazards on and had his story cooroberated by hospital staff and another officer....cops are meant to protect and serve and they are supposed to help people in distress. This is how it should have went. I dont buy in to the "all cops are bad crap".....but this shit was fucked up.
Sir please step out of the vehicle:
Moats: My mother-in-law is dying I have to go!!!!!
Sir: please calm down, I pulled you over for running that redlight...can the hospital confirm your story?
Moats: Tells wife to go in and get hospital staff to verify (wife is crying going nuts - walking away)...cop tells father (who is calm) to do this.
Staff comes out
Moats: Please let me go, I need to get up there!!!!
Sir: Calm down, as soon as hospital staff comes out and verifies your story I will let you go see your mother
Staff confirms story
Sir: leave me with your keys, your id and your wallet. I will write you a ticket and I will leave that ticket and your wallet with the front desk.
Officer calls for backup
Thats how it should have went, period.
Oh brother...
Hey they are down one officer now. Why dont you apply there Hero!?