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Title: Obama lifting Cuba Ban.
Post by: chainsaw on April 03, 2009, 07:54:12 PM
Now the drug dealers can take our money out of the U.S and grow fidels ecomony.
dumbass.-- President Barack Obama plans to lift longstanding U.S. restrictions on Cuba, a senior administration official said, allowing Cuban-Americans to visit families there as often as they like and to send them unlimited funds.

The gesture, which could herald more openness with the Castro regime, will fulfill a campaign promise and follows more modest action in Congress this year to loosen travel rules.

The president has authority to loosen the restrictions on travel and remittances to Cuba on his own. The new rules will affect an estimated 1.5 million Americans who have family members in Cuba. Other Americans are allowed to travel to Cuba but only if they qualify through certain cultural, educational and other programs
Title: Re: Obama lifting Cuba Ban.
Post by: The Coach on April 03, 2009, 08:32:18 PM
Now the drug dealers can take our money out of the U.S and grow fidels ecomony.
dumbass.-- President Barack Obama plans to lift longstanding U.S. restrictions on Cuba, a senior administration official said, allowing Cuban-Americans to visit families there as often as they like and to send them unlimited funds.

The gesture, which could herald more openness with the Castro regime, will fulfill a campaign promise and follows more modest action in Congress this year to loosen travel rules.

The president has authority to loosen the restrictions on travel and remittances to Cuba on his own. The new rules will affect an estimated 1.5 million Americans who have family members in Cuba. Other Americans are allowed to travel to Cuba but only if they qualify through certain cultural, educational and other programs


It's just a front, Obama's really doing a great job ::)
Title: Re: Obama lifting Cuba Ban.
Post by: Dballn247 on April 03, 2009, 08:56:17 PM
Well I guess I can finally get a decent cigar around here.
Title: Re: Obama lifting Cuba Ban.
Post by: benchthis on April 03, 2009, 09:04:44 PM
hell yeah i always wanted to visti Havana  8)
Title: Re: Obama lifting Cuba Ban.
Post by: Jizzacked on April 03, 2009, 09:37:15 PM
Well I guess I can finally get a decent cigar around here.

not likely, the good manufacturers there have plenty of demand from the rest of the world... you would think this would be good but actually the quality would likely tank to keep up with the overwhelming demand.  US companies also hold the rights to using many of the famous cuban brand names.. I wonder how they would sort that issue out.
Title: Re: Obama lifting Cuba Ban.
Post by: chainsaw on April 04, 2009, 12:33:00 AM
hell yeah i always wanted to visti Havana  8)

You can visit Havana NOW.  Its money transactions, like cubans gettin jobs here, and sending the paycheck home.
Just like the mexicans.  If you don't spend the money in our economy, than ours goes down.  Thats why every single illegal isnt'
sent back to mexico.  Because some of them spen their money here.
Title: Re: Obama lifting Cuba Ban.
Post by: benchthis on April 04, 2009, 12:34:33 AM
ooo so wise....

well whatever the case is...

viva la RAZA
Title: Re: Obama lifting Cuba Ban.
Post by: bigdumbbell on April 04, 2009, 03:51:49 AM
You can visit Havana NOW.  Its money transactions, like cubans gettin jobs here, and sending the paycheck home.
Just like the mexicans.  If you don't spend the money in our economy, than ours goes down.  Thats why every single illegal isnt'
sent back to mexico.  Because some of them spen their money here.
yes they pay rent to slumlords and keep the economy going
Title: Re: Obama lifting Cuba Ban.
Post by: Mars on April 04, 2009, 04:06:25 AM
(http://karakutu.com/galeri/thumbs/lrg-717-fidel_castro__38_jpg)
Title: Re: Obama lifting Cuba Ban.
Post by: dr.chimps on April 04, 2009, 07:31:56 AM
It's just a front, Obama's really doing a great job ::)
LOL. Why spout an opinion like that when you couldn't find Cuba on a globe.  ???
Title: Re: Obama lifting Cuba Ban.
Post by: ironneck on April 04, 2009, 07:35:23 AM
lol maybe this is a dumb question but couldn't an american guy visit cuba till now?how fucked up is that
Title: Re: Obama lifting Cuba Ban.
Post by: Brutal_1 on April 04, 2009, 07:35:36 AM
hell yeah i always wanted to visti Havana  8)


All you had to do was go to Miami  ;)
Title: Re: Obama lifting Cuba Ban.
Post by: Cleanest Natural on April 04, 2009, 07:41:21 AM
hundreds of millions spent lifetimes as US citizens since this country was founded ....

and all 40 something presidents are related

what are the fucking odds ??

chaisaw, coach and all the rest .. I HONESTLY REFUSE TO BELIEVE YOU ARE THAT IGNORANT AND RETARDED NOT TO REALIZE THERE IS NO RIGHT AND LEFT .... THEY ARE ALL THE SAME BREED .

ILLUMINATI  run this planet, and Obama like Bush, like Sarcozy are just mind controlled clones and indiv, who fullfill a public role .

Title: Re: Obama lifting Cuba Ban.
Post by: ironneck on April 04, 2009, 09:53:43 AM
hundreds of millions spent lifetimes as US citizens since this country was founded ....

and all 40 something presidents are related

what are the fucking odds ??

chaisaw, coach and all the rest .. I HONESTLY REFUSE TO BELIEVE YOU ARE THAT IGNORANT AND RETARDED NOT TO REALIZE THERE IS NO RIGHT AND LEFT .... THEY ARE ALL THE SAME BREED .

ILLUMINATI  run this planet, and Obama like Bush, like Sarcozy are just mind controlled clones and indiv, who fullfill a public role .




dan brown is not actually albert einstein
Title: Re: Obama lifting Cuba Ban.
Post by: chaos on April 04, 2009, 10:01:21 AM
hundreds of millions spent lifetimes as US citizens since this country was founded ....

and all 40 something presidents are related

what are the fucking odds ??

chaisaw, coach and all the rest .. I HONESTLY REFUSE TO BELIEVE YOU ARE THAT IGNORANT AND RETARDED NOT TO REALIZE THERE IS NO RIGHT AND LEFT .... THEY ARE ALL THE SAME BREED .

ILLUMINATI  run this planet, and Obama like Bush, like Sarcozy are just mind controlled clones and indiv, who fullfill a public role .


You've taken one too many tokes off of the Falcons pole.
Title: Re: Obama lifting Cuba Ban.
Post by: Stark on April 04, 2009, 10:05:47 AM
You guys are idiots ::)

He is after all these years the very first man that actually does something different, if you look at the worlds 20 years past things haven't really been great right? So why not do the exact opposite and actually try to change things for a change - all the other presidents had one goal in mind to keep things as they are right now, Obama is doing a good job changing that devils wheel.

And why the FUCK would you sanction Cuba in the first place? What reason is there to sanction them? You think the ruskies are going to do the same fucking mistake again? its much better to be friends with your close neighboors than enemies.

For a change you have finally a president that thinks before he talks and isn't a total embarrassment for the country and you dumbasses are still complaining.
The world is already looking much more favourable to the states and trust me fellas you gonna need need to have friends in the future.

Oh and for the idiots here who gonna counter by saying Cuba is a dictatorship and is oppressing people I have two word for you guys...

Saudi Arabia
Title: Re: Obama lifting Cuba Ban.
Post by: Mars on April 04, 2009, 10:10:27 AM
they dont care about people being oppressed by regimes and they never cared about it, only when it suits their agenda.
Title: Re: Obama lifting Cuba Ban.
Post by: spinnis on April 04, 2009, 10:11:33 AM
You guys are idiots ::)


Obama seems like a damn retard.
He was having a debate in front of an audience and he got the question about legalizing and Taxing marijuana and if that would help the economy... (the question was the most popular one from voting online)

He LAUGHED it off and made a stupid joke about people who are on the internet, and said No that wouldn't help.

EVEN THOUGH its proven that taxing marijuana would bring in about 4 billion dollars each year, and at lest 3 billion dollar More would be saved from stopping the hunt on the drug.. (thats what the goverment spend each year on trying to tack down growers etc etc)

so at least 7 billions dollar would be earned. And he laughed it off?  ??? ???
Title: Re: Obama lifting Cuba Ban.
Post by: The Ugly on April 04, 2009, 10:13:18 AM
Well I guess I can finally get a decent cigar around here.

Man, I hope so.
Title: Re: Obama lifting Cuba Ban.
Post by: nodeal on April 04, 2009, 10:25:35 AM
hundreds of millions spent lifetimes as US citizens since this country was founded ....

and all 40 something presidents are related

what are the fucking odds ??

chaisaw, coach and all the rest .. I HONESTLY REFUSE TO BELIEVE YOU ARE THAT IGNORANT AND RETARDED NOT TO REALIZE THERE IS NO RIGHT AND LEFT .... THEY ARE ALL THE SAME BREED .

ILLUMINATI  run this planet, and Obama like Bush, like Sarcozy are just mind controlled clones and indiv, who fullfill a public role .



true to a certain extent. they definitely are mind controlled drones who fulfill a public role...and in reality right vs left doesn't matter as much as we think because I really do think there are bigger people out there we are not aware of calling the REAL shots. Obama is the biggest puppet thus far.
Title: Re: Obama lifting Cuba Ban.
Post by: 240 is Back on April 04, 2009, 11:05:37 AM
coach,

the DOW is now over 8000.

You blamed Obama when the DOW was at 7000.  Do you now credit him for the return to 8000?
Title: Re: Obama lifting Cuba Ban.
Post by: Camel Jockey on April 04, 2009, 11:12:32 AM
I wanna try a Montecristo no. 2 and a Cohiba robusto  ;D

Altadis uses many of the famous brand names here in the US. I hear they also have a 50% in Habanos SA, so we'll see how it might work out.

And Coach's idol Rush serenades himself with Hoyo de Monterrey cubans.. Coach, why aren't you calling him out on it?
Title: Re: Obama lifting Cuba Ban.
Post by: 240 is Back on April 04, 2009, 11:28:08 AM
Coach, why aren't you calling him out on it?

The same reason why coach probably believes rush should be free, but a million other drug abusers in America belong in prison.
Title: Re: Obama lifting Cuba Ban.
Post by: Mars on April 04, 2009, 11:31:16 AM
coach is a madman.
Title: Re: Obama lifting Cuba Ban.
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on April 04, 2009, 11:56:27 AM
haha the right wingers dont mind wasting thousands of american lives and hundreds of billions of dollars in pointless middleeastern wars, but if Obama lifts the cuban ban ITS THE WORST THING IN THE WORLD!!!!
Title: Re: Obama lifting Cuba Ban.
Post by: amoney86 on April 04, 2009, 12:01:03 PM
every republican I know is a piece of shit.
Title: Re: Obama lifting Cuba Ban.
Post by: 240 is Back on April 04, 2009, 12:05:42 PM
south Florida's economy is SUNK at the moment.  Tourism is terrible for the 2nd year in a row, and construction died 18 months ago.  We have 12% unemployment in Lee county, not even counting the 5% of part-timers or ppl who have just plain given up. 

So with a real unemployment rate of 17%... any commerce we can get with Cuba is good.  Plus it'll let us get some eyes in there.  If Russia and Venezuela are putting ships and eventually troops in Cuba, we certainly need eyes and men in the area, right?

Trade will normalize relationships and prevent a crisis in our backyward.  And it'll put some $ into our economy.  Lots of cuban cigars are good $$$.  Vice goes up in tough times, and cigars will sell.  This will cause a wage of vice - health care - to increase as well. 

or, we could just bitch about what Castro did 50 years ago to piss us off.  Sure, that makes sense.
Title: Re: Obama lifting Cuba Ban.
Post by: chaos on April 04, 2009, 12:23:46 PM
south Florida's economy is SUNK at the moment.  Tourism is terrible for the 2nd year in a row, and construction died 18 months ago.  We have 12% unemployment in Lee county, not even counting the 5% of part-timers or ppl who have just plain given up. 

So with a real unemployment rate of 17%... any commerce we can get with Cuba is good.  Plus it'll let us get some eyes in there.  If Russia and Venezuela are putting ships and eventually troops in Cuba, we certainly need eyes and men in the area, right?

Trade will normalize relationships and prevent a crisis in our backyward.  And it'll put some $ into our economy.  Lots of cuban cigars are good $$$.  Vice goes up in tough times, and cigars will sell.  This will cause a wage of vice - health care - to increase as well. 

or, we could just bitch about what Castro did 50 years ago to piss us off.  Sure, that makes sense.
Meltdown.
Title: Re: Obama lifting Cuba Ban.
Post by: nodeal on April 04, 2009, 12:45:55 PM
haha the right wingers dont mind wasting thousands of american lives and hundreds of billions of dollars in pointless middleeastern wars, but if Obama lifts the cuban ban ITS THE WORST THING IN THE WORLD!!!!

a decent point. war in the middle east is hurting our economy, this won't help though.
Title: Re: Obama lifting Cuba Ban.
Post by: Deicide on April 04, 2009, 12:52:18 PM
I say we just nuke dem Cubans! >:(
Title: Re: Obama lifting Cuba Ban.
Post by: Stark on April 04, 2009, 01:21:58 PM

Obama seems like a damn retard.
He was having a debate in front of an audience and he got the question about legalizing and Taxing marijuana and if that would help the economy... (the question was the most popular one from voting online)

He LAUGHED it off and made a stupid joke about people who are on the internet, and said No that wouldn't help.

EVEN THOUGH its proven that taxing marijuana would bring in about 4 billion dollars each year, and at lest 3 billion dollar More would be saved from stopping the hunt on the drug.. (thats what the goverment spend each year on trying to tack down growers etc etc)

so at least 7 billions dollar would be earned. And he laughed it off?  ??? ???

swede come on the guy is not a retard
Title: Re: Obama lifting Cuba Ban.
Post by: Deicide on April 04, 2009, 01:36:00 PM
swede come on the guy is not a retard

Wir werfen Bomben ab, bis zum Geht Nicht Mehr....Zerstoerung!!!!!!!!! Arghhhhhhhhhhhhh
Title: Re: Obama lifting Cuba Ban.
Post by: JasonH on April 04, 2009, 01:37:59 PM
Has anyone here been to Cuba?

I'm thinking of going early next year and was wondering what it was like.
Title: Re: Obama lifting Cuba Ban.
Post by: Deicide on April 04, 2009, 01:45:15 PM
Has anyone here been to Cuba?

I'm thinking of going early next year and was wondering what it was like.

All fucking commies!
Title: Re: Obama lifting Cuba Ban.
Post by: The Coach on April 04, 2009, 01:45:29 PM
Hey 240, I never said it wouldn't work, I said it was a temporary fix that we will ALL have to pay for for the rest of our lives our childrens lives and grandchildrens lives. It was a bad move, $10 trillion is a bad move. Ask him if he runs his own finances like that. Do you run your business like that? I sure as hell don't, I hate debt especially ones that will never be paid back.
Title: Re: Obama lifting Cuba Ban.
Post by: Deicide on April 04, 2009, 01:54:12 PM
Hey 240, I never said it wouldn't work, I said it was a temporary fix that we will ALL have to pay for for the rest of our lives our childrens lives and grandchildrens lives. It was a bad move, $10 trillion is a bad move. Ask him if he runs his own finances like that. Do you run your business like that? I sure as hell don't, I hate debt especially ones that will never be paid back.

Bush created a lot of debt too 'Coach' but you love ignoring that little bit...
Title: Re: Obama lifting Cuba Ban.
Post by: 240 is Back on April 04, 2009, 02:13:07 PM
Hey 240, I never said it wouldn't work, I said it was a temporary fix that we will ALL have to pay for for the rest of our lives our childrens lives and grandchildrens lives. It was a bad move, $10 trillion is a bad move. Ask him if he runs his own finances like that. Do you run your business like that? I sure as hell don't, I hate debt especially ones that will never be paid back.

wait, so you're okay with the Cuba thing... you're just mad that he printed the trillions to stimulate the US economy?
Title: Re: Obama lifting Cuba Ban.
Post by: The Coach on April 04, 2009, 02:14:06 PM
$580bil in 8 years is chump change compared to what this moron has done in 60 days.
Title: Re: Obama lifting Cuba Ban.
Post by: Deicide on April 04, 2009, 02:24:03 PM
$580bil in 8 years is chump change compared to what this moron has done in 60 days.

Is that all the debt GW made for us? And here I was thinking it was more....which it was... ::)
Title: Re: Obama lifting Cuba Ban.
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on April 04, 2009, 02:40:57 PM
$580bil in 8 years is chump change compared to what this moron has done in 60 days.
hes not doing it 'just because', hes doing it because his position is dictated by the gargantuan hole your buddy left the nation in.
Title: Re: Obama lifting Cuba Ban.
Post by: 240 is Back on April 04, 2009, 03:59:45 PM
$580bil in 8 years is chump change compared to what this moron has done in 60 days.

Joe,

How do you propose Obama could have done things differently?

He inherited 7% unemployment (meaning 12% real unemployment) with such a staggering trend that it was up to 8% in a single month.  Another 12 months of this policy and yes, we could have been over 15% nationwide (20% real) unemployment rate.

Obama's stimulus plan created 4 million new jobs.  Some are active now, others will be created in the next 18 months.

If you have a better plan, the nation would like to hear it.  If your plan is "tax breaks for the wealthy", well, Bush tried that.  The result was the hugely trending unemployment that Obama inherited.
Title: Re: Obama lifting Cuba Ban.
Post by: dr.chimps on April 04, 2009, 05:24:39 PM
$580bil in 8 years is chump change compared to what this moron has done in 60 days.
Iraq, alone, will cost over 3 trillion. I think you have lost the right to call anybody moron, Coach.  ;)
Title: Re: Obama lifting Cuba Ban.
Post by: Parker on April 04, 2009, 05:37:09 PM
south Florida's economy is SUNK at the moment.  Tourism is terrible for the 2nd year in a row, and construction died 18 months ago.  We have 12% unemployment in Lee county, not even counting the 5% of part-timers or ppl who have just plain given up. 

So with a real unemployment rate of 17%... any commerce we can get with Cuba is good.  Plus it'll let us get some eyes in there.  If Russia and Venezuela are putting ships and eventually troops in Cuba, we certainly need eyes and men in the area, right?

Trade will normalize relationships and prevent a crisis in our backyward.  And it'll put some $ into our economy.  Lots of cuban cigars are good $$$.  Vice goes up in tough times, and cigars will sell.  This will cause a wage of vice - health care - to increase as well. 

or, we could just bitch about what Castro did 50 years ago to piss us off.  Sure, that makes sense.

And Castro did that because Cuba was America's lil Playground. And I'm kinda glad he did that, in the beginning, he basically thumb his nose at the US, surviving Assignation attempts, and Using Cuba position in the Cold War. His actions although rendered Cuba to be still stuck in the 1950's.
Title: Re: Obama lifting Cuba Ban.
Post by: dr.chimps on April 04, 2009, 05:58:51 PM
And Castro did that because Cuba was America's lil Playground. And I'm kinda glad he did that, in the beginning, he basically thumb his nose at the US, surviving Assignation attempts, and Using Cuba position in the Cold War. His actions although rendered Cuba to be still stuck in the 1950's.
Actually, Castro was very much capitalism friendly when he first took over. He went quickly through about six political stances before he 'settled' on Communism, mostly in opposition to the US' antagonistic position. Second stupidest grudge match in the 20th century.     
Title: Re: Obama lifting Cuba Ban.
Post by: bigdumbbell on April 04, 2009, 06:05:06 PM
coach is a madman.
fuckin retard stooge is more like it