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I read that gyno is a hard lump. What is a puffy nipple? My nipples look puffy but there is no lump. What can I take to reduce this? Kind of like water is being held there. This is not a problem from gear. I've had puffy nipple from when I hit puberty. I always have to tweak my nipples to look hard.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
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dude I have the same thing and its a pain in my ass. Im gonna ram one of my needles through my nipples, I hear that will keep them hard.
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Puffy nipples are allmost allways gyno, even if it's a soft tissue and not hard it's more than likely gyno. Many people have it from puberty. If you look around the beach you'll see that many guys who don't even train or take gear have it and don't even realise it. The only way to get rid of it is surgery, if you just want to "reduce" it than you can take arimidex.
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I read that gyno is a hard lump. What is a puffy nipple? My nipples look puffy but there is no lump. What can I take to reduce this? Kind of like water is being held there. This is not a problem from gear. I've had puffy nipple from when I hit puberty. I always have to tweak my nipples to look hard.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
gyno isnt just lumps gyno is the term for males getting female breast symtoms such as puffy nips fat storage or glandular tissue " hard lumps" i have both from puberty and if you use gear they will be receptive to getting worse you can take an esrtogen blocker like nolva to see if it will help and some anti estrogens to try to shrink the fat cells but the only way to get rid of it is under the knife i plan on getting it done in the near future
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gyno isnt just lumps gyno is the term for males getting female breast symtoms such as puffy nips fat storage or glandular tissue " hard lumps" i have both from puberty and if you use gear they will be receptive to getting worse you can take an esrtogen blocker like nolva to see if it will help and some anti estrogens to try to shrink the fat cells but the only way to get rid of it is under the knife i plan on getting it done in the near future
That sucks but I have to get it done. I heard that Letro might help, or was that for acne. Hmmm I can't keep this shit in order.
A friend of mine had his insurance pay for his gyno removal. He claimed that he was depressed from it and attempted suicide from the depression. Not sure if it was true but he did have it removed.
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That sucks but I have to get it done. I heard that Letro might help, or was that for acne. Hmmm I can't keep this shit in order.
A friend of mine had his insurance pay for his gyno removal. He claimed that he was depressed from it and attempted suicide from the depression. Not sure if it was true but he did have it removed.
Insurance should cover it due to the breast cancer act that was passed in the late 90's. They key though is to say it's causing you pain and it's extremely uncomfortable.
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Ive had it my whole life, really sux. Wont be goin under the knife anytime soon though.
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Insurance should cover it due to the breast cancer act that was passed in the late 90's. They key though is to say it's causing you pain and it's extremely uncomfortable.
thats interesting have to check into that
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That sucks but I have to get it done. I heard that Letro might help, or was that for acne. Hmmm I can't keep this shit in order.
A friend of mine had his insurance pay for his gyno removal. He claimed that he was depressed from it and attempted suicide from the depression. Not sure if it was true but he did have it removed.
no letro can help dry it out but it wont do magic and if you take enough letro when ou stop u have a chance of estro rebound
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will the clomid just help keep it off? Or does it also work to take away any
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I read that gyno is a hard lump. What is a puffy nipple? My nipples look puffy but there is no lump. What can I take to reduce this? Kind of like water is being held there. This is not a problem from gear. I've had puffy nipple from when I hit puberty. I always have to tweak my nipples to look hard.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Bro, watch this video. Puffy nipple is actually the gyno pushing out which causes the puffiness.
Fast forward to 3:35 to see the excision of the gland
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this guy would have a fuckin hayday on my chest! he sounds like he enjoys de tizzew. i am going to ask my boss tomorrow if our insurance covers it.......nope found website. ill see what i can find out. is it illegal for us to share what companies do accept this procedure under their policy?
toe2toe
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I read that gyno is a hard lump. What is a puffy nipple? My nipples look puffy but there is no lump. What can I take to reduce this? Kind of like water is being held there. This is not a problem from gear. I've had puffy nipple from when I hit puberty. I always have to tweak my nipples to look hard.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
you got the pubescent gyno, same as me.
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great video, man the results are awesome. Here is a link with a bit more info, not a cheap route though.
http://www.ask.com/bar?q=how+much+does+gynecomastia+surgery+cost&page=1&qsrc=178&ab=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gynecomastia.org%2Fcontent%2Fgeneral%2Fdelgadofaq.shtml
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Bro, watch this video. Puffy nipple is actually the gyno pushing out which causes the puffiness.
Fast forward to 3:35 to see the excision of the gland
man ive watched this before and this time it made me feel ikky cause i have more tissue then that kid and i plan to have it done but FUCK man it looks bad
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great video, man the results are awesome. Here is a link with a bit more info, not a cheap route though.
http://www.ask.com/bar?q=how+much+does+gynecomastia+surgery+cost&page=1&qsrc=178&ab=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gynecomastia.org%2Fcontent%2Fgeneral%2Fdelgadofaq.shtml
Ouch $7000 for this surgery. Plus airfare, hotel etc.... This is not cheap. I'm going to talk to my doctor about it and start complaining about tissue pain and see what he says.
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yea that is not cheap at all, that guys pecs wernt that bad either and they pulled out alot of tissue. Now I think my chest looks like pure d ass wonderful.
Is this really the only option though or is it just the most effective. I know they have injections that can burn away fat, they have to have something to burn away tissue
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You do not have to pay 6-7 grand..... Mine was about 3000.00 The results were great.. I live in Kansas City and had it done locally..
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Fatty deposit in or around your nipples is NOT the same thing as GYNO. Gyno is actually growth of breast tissue and may or may not result in a hard lump or "man boobs". Dieting can be very effective at getting rid of that "puffy" fatty look to the nipple or pec area. I blew up on my first cycle and gained a lot of muscle along with fat. I have the stretch marks to prove it. LOL. My nipples were always puffy and had dimples in the arm pit area that was subcutaneous fat pockets. Dieting always gets rid of it.
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Fatty deposit in or around your nipples is NOT the same thing as GYNO. Gyno is actually growth of breast tissue and may or may not result in a hard lump or "man boobs". Dieting can be very effective at getting rid of that "puffy" fatty look to the nipple or pec area. I blew up on my first cycle and gained a lot of muscle along with fat. I have the stretch marks to prove it. LOL. My nipples were always puffy and had dimples in the arm pit area that was subcutaneous fat pockets. Dieting always gets rid of it.
I've dieted down to where I had veins popping out of my abs (this was a long time ago probably can't get that lean anymore) and still had softness around the nipples. Like I mentioned, always needed to tweak them. I've looked at surgery options but always shied away. Even now I cannot justify even $3000 for this. I have a mortgage that I need to pay more than this.
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I've dieted down to where I had veins popping out of my abs (this was a long time ago probably can't get that lean anymore) and still had softness around the nipples. Like I mentioned, always needed to tweak them. I've looked at surgery options but always shied away. Even now I cannot justify even $3000 for this. I have a mortgage that I need to pay more than this.
Yea bro…. You have to pay the mortgage.. Gotta take care of biz!!
However, I would suggest to anyone who has gyno to get it fixed as soon as you can. It is a shame to have a good physique and not be able to take off your shirt. It is some of the best money I ever spent!!
Freak
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WEBITE DIDN'T TELL MUCH. NOT SURPRISING. I HAVE HAD THE PROBLEM SINCE I WAS A KID SO IT IS NOT JUST JUICE BUT WASN'T HELPED OUT AFTER THAT FOR SURE. I WONDER IF JUICE HAS THE ABILITY TO MAKE GROWTHS THERE IF IT HAS THE ABILITY TO DO IT OTHER PLACES?
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I read that gyno is a hard lump. What is a puffy nipple? My nipples look puffy but there is no lump. What can I take to reduce this? Kind of like water is being held there. This is not a problem from gear. I've had puffy nipple from when I hit puberty. I always have to tweak my nipples to look hard.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
It's estrogenic fat........not gyno.
Gyno is glandular and hard.
If you want to lose that you'll need to diet down and lower your bodyfat.
DIV
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It's estrogenic fat........not gyno.
Gyno is glandular and hard.
If you want to lose that you'll need to diet down and lower your bodyfat.
DIV
I have gyno too but explain to me how that kid in the video hardly had fat in his puffy nipples? It was mainly gland. Did the gland push out his nipples to make it look puffy?
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I have gyno too but explain to me how that kid in the video hardly had fat in his puffy nipples? It was mainly gland. Did the gland push out his nipples to make it look puffy?
yes the tissue pushed nipple he didnt have much fat in there probably cause he was preety lean and burned the fat when i got slim i wll lose the fat but still have inlarged area due to the tissue
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At least yours isnt bad as this dude's!
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At least yours isnt bad as this dude's!
I'm not that bad, but a little less than the guy in the first vid. Wonder how many pros have done this surgery
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if you go to the doc's website you will see derek anthony's tattoos and a bunch of guys that are big dudes
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The puffiness is actually the fluid and soft tissue build up that occurs with the onset of gyno. This is the time that AIs are going to be most effective, because once you get the hard fiberous lump, you are 99% stuck with that and only surgery as an option to get rid of it.
You can try to have insurance to pay. Everyone that I know that has had gyno from puberty had their covered by insurance. But this isn't to say that you run down to the doc and just claim it was puberty related. They actually had doctor visits back in their early teens to document the development.
If you are patient, what you can do to increase the chance of insurance paying is go to the doctor now and tell him the reason for your visit is you have these lumps that came on in the past couple of months. That they worry you. Nothing else. He will give you the standard spiel, etc.. Go back in about 4 months and tell him that they are starting to hurt and feel similiar to a bruise. Again, nod your head at the speech. Wait a while longer go back again and tell him the pain is intense and hurting and you can sleep on your stomach or do things like hold your kids up against your chest or wear your selt belt. After this he will put it through to the insurance company as something other than cosmetic surgery.
Or if you live in body beautiful city - south florida, CA, NYC, etc.. - you can probably just go straight to a doc that will already know what to do to make insurance companies pay right off the bat and pretty much tell you what to put down on the visitation form to justify it.
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how bad is the scar aferwards?
and does your skin retract in around the nipple like I see in some post op pics?
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how bad is the scar aferwards?
and does your skin retract in around the nipple like I see in some post op pics?
There shouldn't be a scar. Look where the incision is made. It's not like areolas are pretty to begin with. Also, the skin shouldn't retract and the nipple shouldn't cave in if you've got a half decent doctor. If I had surgery and had a fucked up chest, I'd go back and just have it redone.
I've seen people walk into the office in Canada and walk out after their gyno surgery just fine. It's not a complicated procedure. A juicer on bb.com's forums is in med school and actually just performed gyno surgery ON someone (said it was a cake walk).
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Or if you live in body beautiful city - south florida, CA, NYC, etc.. - you can probably just go straight to a doc that will already know what to do to make insurance companies pay right off the bat and pretty much tell you what to put down on the visitation form to justify it.
This is exactly what I did successfully....
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Most people have at the most a quarter size or smaller lump behind the nipped in true gyno (fiberous) cases. The worst case of gyno I have ever seen the guy had gyno to such a degree that when he raised his arm overhead you could actually see the hard lump running out laterally and slightly upwards towards his armpit, but on his side. Yes. The gyno actually overlapped his chest muscles and the area where your upper rib cage is. It had to be the size of a drink coaster that you set on a coffee table or something.
This was about 4 years ago and even with a lump that big, the scars are not noticeable. They ended up making 3 small incisions. One on the lateral side of the nipple, one on the medial side and then a tiny one about 3 inches below his arm pit in order to clean up the junk on the side. The only time these scars are visible are when he uses MT2 and the skin tans faster than the tiny scar area around the nipple. Which this only lasts about 2 weeks before it catches and in reality you would not notice it unless you looked really really close. And I don't think most of us have a habit of sticking our faces within inches of another man's nipple.
Also, if getting the surgery, ask around and start some threads about what other people have gone through in regards to post op recovery processes. (or just do a random search on different boards.) Some people get a compression vest, some don't. Some are limited to lifting the arms more than 45 degrees outward for a few weeks after surgery, some aren't. Just read all the info you can from other people's experiences and then you will have a broader idea about what to discuss with your own doc/surgeon.
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This is exactly what I did successfully....
Many places will gurantee you that they can get most insurances to cover it. (As long as they are major companies like BCBS, etc..)
Here in South Florida there are even places that can justify having insurance to cover laser hair removal services. That is no joke.
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I have gyno too but explain to me how that kid in the video hardly had fat in his puffy nipples? It was mainly gland. Did the gland push out his nipples to make it look puffy?
I'm not a doctor.
I'd say his estrogen level is too high, that might explain it.
DIV
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did you have to undergo general anesthia for the procedure? (ie intubation, etc...) or did they do conscious sedation and local?
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did you have to undergo general anesthia for the procedure? (ie intubation, etc...) or did they do conscious sedation and local?
Shit. I'd want to be passed out cold. It looked like in the first vid that the kid was out.
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you think you want to be out cold, until you realize the risks are much higher with general. people can die from general anesthia.
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Many places will gurantee you that they can get most insurances to cover it. (As long as they are major companies like BCBS, etc..)
Here in South Florida there are even places that can justify having insurance to cover laser hair removal services. That is no joke.
I'm in SF as well...and so was my doc.
And, I was awake...it was nothing....at first just a bunch of shots via insulin needles to numb the exterior....and then more shots via larger guages deeper into the area. Didn't feel a thing.
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I'm in SF as well...and so was my doc.
And, I was awake...it was nothing....at first just a bunch of shots via insulin needles to numb the exterior....and then more shots via larger guages deeper into the area. Didn't feel a thing.
Did your insurance cover it?
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I'm in SF as well...and so was my doc.
And, I was awake...it was nothing....at first just a bunch of shots via insulin needles to numb the exterior....and then more shots via larger guages deeper into the area. Didn't feel a thing.
That's what they did with my buddy. He just walked into the office, they froze his bitch titties, cut 'em out, cinched it up and he was on his way. You would NEVER be able to tell that he had humongous bitch tits no matter how hard you tried. It was covered, but we live up in Canada so it's probably much different.
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Yes, it was covered. I told him that I had had them since my teens and they recently started getting worse....and that I was a little worried...he took them out and sent them to the lab for tests to see if there was a problem. It helped that I know him reasonably well beforehand and he happened to be a plastic surgeon.
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If possible, it really does help to have the procedure done while awake and not put to sleep. In terms of insurance coverage.
Don't ask me why, but nearly everyone I know that has had this done has said their docs told them the same thing. Of course, I am not sure what you could possibly do and think while you are laying there staring at the ceiling tile and thinking about someone cutting into you. Must be creepy.
I have heard this is a direct reason why the percentage of insurance coverage has increased over the years. Actually nearly everything about the procedure has improved over the years and the common sides that were prevelant in the past like inverted nipples or nipples asymetrical to one another, purple scars, etc.. are no longer a possibility.
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i am sure they sedate you with versed or something... be cool if you could listen to music while they operate.
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No, they didn't sedate me at all. But, I think I may have taken a Xanax or Vicodin before hand just for the calming effects.
At first, I watched while he injected me to numb the area. That was no big deal. We've all seen plenty of needles.
When he got ready to cut, he put this little ~ 12" high curtain at the top of my chest so I couldn't see. I could see over it and see his face as he looked downward and operated, but that's all.
The thing that was really weird/cool was to look at the tissue after it was cut out and in a container, waiting for shipment to the lab. It may sound gross, but I was so relieved that that shit was no longer inside my body. I was also amazed at how much is really in there. It's much more than you would think.
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No, they didn't sedate me at all. But, I think I may have taken a Xanax or Vicodin before hand just for the calming effects.
At first, I watched while he injected me to numb the area. That was no big deal. We've all seen plenty of needles.
When he got ready to cut, he put this little ~ 12" high curtain at the top of my chest so I couldn't see. I could see over it and see his face as he looked downward and operated, but that's all.
The thing that was really weird/cool was to look at the tissue after it was cut out and in a container, waiting for shipment to the lab. It may sound gross, but I was so relieved that that shit was no longer inside my body. I was also amazed at how much is really in there. It's much more than you would think.
I'm going to tell my doctor about this. Shit I might just get some heat pads and put them on my chest to make them red as shit before I walk in and proclaim the pain is too much and I can't sleep blah blah and see what he says. I'll need a referal from him because I'm on HMO but if I can get this done I'd be happier as fuck. Of course the other issue is that I'm hairy as a fucking ape so one day I'll get laser hair removal.
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I'm going to tell my doctor about this. Shit I might just get some heat pads and put them on my chest to make them red as shit before I walk in and proclaim the pain is too much and I can't sleep blah blah and see what he says. I'll need a referal from him because I'm on HMO but if I can get this done I'd be happier as fuck. Of course the other issue is that I'm hairy as a fucking ape so one day I'll get laser hair removal.
No need, man. Go in there and tell him that you have some serious concerns regarding chest pain. Let him know that you have problems laying on your chest, even your side. Proclaim that your gf...... or bf?... ;).... touches your chest occasionally when having intercourse and that you'll howl in pain. Tell him that it's affecting your every day life and that you've read that estrogen can attack the tissues in your chest, bind to it and feed cancerous growth.
Whether it's benign or not, keep saying how much it hurts and they'll have to take it out. I get some growth in one breast from time to time but an AI and careful eye on my diet take care of it. But if it ever turns into full blown gyno and an AI doesn't reduce it's size, I will definitely go in and get surgery. Right now there's nothing, but if I pin a half gram of test over the course of a week I can see something in there... so yeah, if it gets to a point I'll go under the knife as well. It's cheaper than blasting a shitload of AIs and SERMs and spending hours in concern over developing gyno.
Good luck, man.
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The thing that was really weird/cool was to look at the tissue after it was cut out and in a container, waiting for shipment to the lab.
Ok, despite that sounding gross..... what did it look like?
I mean, was it a white fatty tissue with some blood on it? Or did it come out looking like a mutated shrimp?
( I didn't watch that video so I have no idea. Have youtube disabled here on this laptop.)
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I wish a solid thread devoted to gyno and gyno surgery existed.
People would list their gyno stats (how long they had it, the measurement/weight of the affected area, etc..)
List whether or not their insurance companies paid for it and the methods they used to get them too.
List of actual insurance companies that did and didn't cover it.
List the recuperation technique involved. (Did they get a compression vest? Tube drainage? Shoulder/chest harness, etc..)
List the "down time" that they went through in terms of missing work. Missing the gym.
Another good question that I have yet to see consistently answered is whether or not they (and their docs of course) feel it is necessary to bring down any extra levels of bodyfat prior to having the surgery. With a leaner physique it would be easier to see the contour of the muscle and work accordingly while on the inside. But I hear the downside to that is that with a leaner chest (and overall body) there is a higher risk of the scar being visible in the future should any weight gain (bulking up) occur.
Sadly such an informative thread doesn't exist anywhere.
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It looked like a mutated shrimp. The doctor did comment that it was easier to excise because I was lean
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I wish a solid thread devoted to gyno and gyno surgery existed.
People would list their gyno stats (how long they had it, the measurement/weight of the affected area, etc..)
List whether or not their insurance companies paid for it and the methods they used to get them too.
List of actual insurance companies that did and didn't cover it.
List the recuperation technique involved. (Did they get a compression vest? Tube drainage? Shoulder/chest harness, etc..)
List the "down time" that they went through in terms of missing work. Missing the gym.
Another good question that I have yet to see consistently answered is whether or not they (and their docs of course) feel it is necessary to bring down any extra levels of bodyfat prior to having the surgery. With a leaner physique it would be easier to see the contour of the muscle and work accordingly while on the inside. But I hear the downside to that is that with a leaner chest (and overall body) there is a higher risk of the scar being visible in the future should any weight gain (bulking up) occur.
Sadly such an informative thread doesn't exist anywhere.
Just start a thread.............
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I wish a solid thread devoted to gyno and gyno surgery existed.
People would list their gyno stats (how long they had it, the measurement/weight of the affected area, etc..)
List whether or not their insurance companies paid for it and the methods they used to get them too.
List of actual insurance companies that did and didn't cover it.
List the recuperation technique involved. (Did they get a compression vest? Tube drainage? Shoulder/chest harness, etc..)
List the "down time" that they went through in terms of missing work. Missing the gym.
Another good question that I have yet to see consistently answered is whether or not they (and their docs of course) feel it is necessary to bring down any extra levels of bodyfat prior to having the surgery. With a leaner physique it would be easier to see the contour of the muscle and work accordingly while on the inside. But I hear the downside to that is that with a leaner chest (and overall body) there is a higher risk of the scar being visible in the future should any weight gain (bulking up) occur.
Sadly such an informative thread doesn't exist anywhere.
No compression vest. Initially he just stiched it up and taped me up pretty good to apply pressure.
However, I forgot that I had taken some nuprin the night before....which is a major no no before any surgery because it prevents clotting. So, both sides started bleeding again internally and swole up during the night.
The next day, he had to cut it open and let it drain. At that point, he just went ahead and inserted drainage tubes for a few days. I had this little rubber bladder attached to my belt that the tubes drained into. I just wore a untucked Tommy Bahama type shirt and it wasn't noticable at all.
As far as down time, there really wasn't any. I took a couple days off from the gym until I the tubes were removed. Other than that, I could do whatever I wanted as long as it wasn't too painful....and in general the whole thing was not painful in the least (with Vicodin)
Any other questions?
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How long did you stay taped up? You have to remove it daily or just left it on for however long you had to?
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How long did you stay taped up? You have to remove it daily or just left it on for however long you had to?
Well, initially I was only supposed to stay taped for a couple days max - just to make sure the bleeding stopped and there was no clotting/hematoma under the skin. But, remember that I said I continued to bleed internally that night after the surgery, swole up and had to have each side drained the next morning. That's when the drains were inserted just to make sure it didn't happen again. Those I wore for about five days, i think.
As far as the drain is concerned, the doctor simply left out the last couple of stitches (the incision was around the top outside portion of the nipple) on each side of my chest and inserted very small rubber tubes (drains) about four inches into and down inside my chest. The two tubes attached to their own small clear rubber bladder that fastened to my belt. You squeeze each bladder to force out the air and then attach it to the tube, which creates a suction inside the tube and inside your chest so that the fluid (if any) will run downward into the bladder. When full, you empty and repeat.
If I had not taken the Nuprin, which caused the internal bleeding, I would have been untaped pretty quickly and at that point I should have only needed some smaller bandaids if anything.
BTW, when they stitched me up initially, they started from the inside and stitched there first. Then, they literally glued the incission tegether on the surface. The internal stiches just dissolve on their own. The glue evenutlaly fell off after a week or so. I can barely tell there was an incision at this point. The scaring is minimal.
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Well, initially I was only supposed to stay taped for a couple days max - just to make sure the bleeding stopped and there was no clotting/hematoma under the skin. But, remember that I said I continued to bleed internally that night after the surgery, swole up and had to have each side drained the next morning. That's when the drains were inserted just to make sure it didn't happen again. Those I wore for about five days, i think.
As far as the drain is concerned, the doctor simply left out the last couple of stitches (the incision was around the top outside portion of the nipple) on each side of my chest and inserted very small rubber tubes (drains) about four inches into and down inside my chest. The two tubes attached to their own small clear rubber bladder that fastened to my belt. You squeeze each bladder to force out the air and then attach it to the tube, which creates a suction inside the tube and inside your chest so that the fluid (if any) will run downward into the bladder. When full, you empty and repeat.
If I had not taken the Nuprin, which caused the internal bleeding, I would have been untaped pretty quickly and at that point I should have only needed some smaller bandaids if anything.
BTW, when they stitched me up initially, they started from the inside and stitched there first. Then, they literally glued the incission tegether on the surface. The internal stiches just dissolve on their own. The glue evenutlaly fell off after a week or so. I can barely tell there was an incision at this point. The scaring is minimal.
Was it a plastic surgeon or an actual doctor that did the operation?
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Was it a plastic surgeon or an actual doctor that did the operation?
A very good plastic surgeon.