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MOMBASA, Kenya (AP) - An American ship captain was freed unharmed Sunday and three of the pirates who held him for days in a lifeboat off the Somali coast were killed in a operation by U.S. Navy Seals that was approved by President Barack Obama, officials said.
Capt. Richard Phillips' crew, who said they had escaped after he offered himself as a hostage, erupted in cheers aboard their ship docked in Mombasa, Kenya. Some waved an American flag and fired a flare in celebration.
The U.S. Navy's 5th Fleet said Phillips was resting comfortably on a U.S. warship after receiving a medical exam.
U.S. officials said Obama ordered the Defense Department to use military resources to rescue Phillips. Obama said the captain had courage that was "a model for all Americans." The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not yet authorized to disclose the president's decision-making process.
Obama said he was pleased that Phillips was rescued, adding that the United States needs help from other countries to deal with the threat of piracy and to hold pirates accountable.
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Coach will blame Obama for not acting earlier or for not firing cruise missiles at Somalia
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Likely the last thing the pirates saw...
(http://militaryvids.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/navy-seal-4.jpg)
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maybe Jack Sparrow will think twice about messing with american ships next time :)
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take THAT terrorists
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take THAT terrorists
(http://shadowpress.org/Giuliani%20Hand%20on%20Head.jpg)
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(http://shadowpress.org/Giuliani%20Hand%20on%20Head.jpg)
oh jesus not him again lol
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Coach will blame Obama for not acting earlier or for not firing cruise missiles at Somalia
LOL. You know it. :D
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Coach will blame Obama for not acting earlier or for not firing cruise missiles at Somalia
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Way to go @Brandon!!!!!!!!!!!! Hope you have a nice party in your island tonight to celebrate.
P.S: Make sure you invite Onlyme
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Job well done!
What about the rest of them pirates? Just finish it...
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Snipers 25-30 meters takin out the thugs!!!!!!
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Way to go @Brandon!!!!!!!!!!!! Hope you have a nice party in your island tonight to celebrate.
P.S: Make sure you invite Onlyme
Kiwiol, I heard a rumor that @Brandon is possibly behind batman
I also got word that the superhero simply known as Fat Fury is really "onlyme" :o
(http://www.tslendinga.com/other/FAT.jpg)
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Coach will blame Obama for not acting earlier or for not firing cruise missiles at Somalia
Bullshit, Coach will undoubtedly highlight that during this economic depression Obama should have not signed off on such a costly military expedition ultimately wasting American tax dollars by way of ammunition, fuel for travel and manpower.
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Obama is fucken gangsta
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dont fcuk w obama
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Great news, glad everyone got out ok and a few shitheads got killed.
I wish our government had the balls to use the SAS/SBS against these girls
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Obama was tight-lipped. He wouldn't comment to the media. The bad guys wanted $2 mil and a guarantee of their freedom. Obama didn't negotiate with terrorists. He told his Seals to waste them, and they did.
For his first major incident, he handled it well and it was a success. I don't think people can say he'll negotiate with and appease terrorists anymore - as he just smoked their asses.
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Obama was tight-lipped. He wouldn't comment to the media. The bad guys wanted $2 mil and a guarantee of their freedom. Obama didn't negotiate with terrorists. He told his Seals to waste them, and they did.
For his first major incident, he handled it well and it was a success. I don't think people can say he'll negotiate with and appease terrorists anymore - as he just smoked their asses.
negotiating with them really only reinforces their actions
next time they will think twice about hijacking a ship
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Likely the last thing the pirates saw...
(http://militaryvids.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/navy-seal-4.jpg)
The pirates saw nothing. The seals swam 30 yards from that raft and shot them in the head. I think it was at night or close to it.
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negotiating with them really only reinforces their actions
next time they will think twice about hijacking a ship
Not really , they'll think twice of hijacking a ship and holding an American hostage
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Not really , they'll think twice of hijacking a ship and holding an American hostage
that's what i meant ;D
american ship
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Excellent post!
Although I prefer this version. ;D
http://www.cannibalthemusical.net/ta/america.htm
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emberassment that it took over 5 days to take out 4 bullshit, thug, "hijackers"....I say this is an absolute emberassment for the US
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that's what i meant ;D
american ship
If your gov'mnt is the only one with the balls to use military force against the pirates then fair enough really.
*EDIT* Well the French have done the samea couple of times recently(including landing SF troops on Somalian soil) so good for the Us and France.
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emberassment that it took over 5 days to take out 4 bullshit, thug, "hijackers"....I say this is an absolute emberassment for the US
use spell check homer
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emberassment that it took over 5 days to take out 4 bullshit, thug, "hijackers"....I say this is an absolute emberassment for the US
::)
there are many reasons why it took that long......
plans need to be made, patterns evolve, sleep deprivation sets in......then you hit
hostage rescue isnt always flash bangs and head shots. leave that to charlie sheen and hollywood
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emberassment that it took over 5 days to take out 4 bullshit, thug, "hijackers"....I say this is an absolute emberassment for the US
The hijackers are all dead hostage alive lol no embarrassment at all , cased closed.
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The hijackers are all dead hostage alive lol no embarrassment at all , cased closed.
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5 days.....50 days. it doesnt matter
the end result does. success
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Navy SEALs are bad ass. I bet that gunfight was over in 3 seconds.
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Oh, by the way...like the arm patch on these SEALs?
(http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/US_Navy_SEALs/aac.jpg)
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What do mean Obama didn't want to negociate he just told them to waste them?? Isn't Maersk a private company? Just like GM Obama didn't have the right to negociate shit (meaning the firing of that GM CEO).
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What do mean Obama didn't want to negociate he just told them to waste them?? Isn't Maersk a private company? Just like GM Obama didn't have the right to negociate shit (meaning the firing of that GM CEO).
just like you chicken hawks who've never served know all the answers. haha oh brother
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Funny how you think just because someone was in the service they know more.
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Funny how you think just because someone was in the service they know more.
That's ok. You sit on the sidelines with Bush Jr. and Cheney and the rest of the deferrers. :)
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Funny how you think just because someone was in the service they know more.
It's called experience
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What do mean Obama didn't want to negociate he just told them to waste them?? Isn't Maersk a private company? Just like GM Obama didn't have the right to negociate shit (meaning the firing of that GM CEO).
you wanted him to just not do anything? ::)
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What do mean Obama didn't want to negociate he just told them to waste them?? Isn't Maersk a private company? Just like GM Obama didn't have the right to negociate shit (meaning the firing of that GM CEO).
I think when you send the military out... you have the right to negotiate.
It's your people who are about to kick ass.
That's ridiculous... As far as GM is concerned... The guy writing the checks gets to say who stays and who goes IMO.
THAT is capitalism.
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I think when you send the military out... you have the right to negotiate.
It's your people who are about to kick ass.
That's ridiculous... As far as GM is concerned... The guy writing the checks gets to say who stays and who goes IMO.
THAT is capitalism.
exactly, the guy lost billions upon billions of dollars
"bailing out" a company is just ridiculous in my opinion, it's a business world, the strong survive and the weak die off, it's how it should be
with "bailing out" weak companies you are doing nothing to improve the product, it should be a competitive industry, american companies sucked
too bad, let the other companies take over, business101 right there
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Funny how you think just because someone was in the service they know more.
what so funny about it? you, rush limbaugh, michele maulkin, ann coulter, laura ingraham, matt drudge, lucianne goldberg and glenn beck have all the answers ::)
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It's not capitolism if the government is writing the checks then firing the CEO of a private company. It might be your opinion but this guy has no problem creating his own distorted constitution.
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what so funny about it? you, rush limbaugh, michele maulkin, ann coulter, laura ingraham, matt druge, lucianne goldgerg and glenn beck have makeup all the answers ::)
fixed.
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NAVY SEALS ALWAYS KICK ASS!!
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what so funny about it? you, rush limbaugh, michele maulkin, ann coulter, laura ingraham, matt druge, lucianne goldgerg and glenn beck have all the answers ::)
Damn, that's a list of people who annoy the hell outta me
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It's not capitolism if the government is writing the checks then firing the CEO of a private company. It might be your opinion but this guy has no problem creating his own distorted constitution.
that fool put the saturn into production knowing full well it's a turkey. you bet his ass he should have been fired. as a matter of fact his fat ass should be back charged for leading that company into ruin.
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It's not capitolism if the government is writing the checks then firing the CEO of a private company. It might be your opinion but this guy has no problem creating his own distorted constitution.
You're right... but when he DID write the check, he got to make the call. You think that's a problem?
You're a really weird guy Coach... You don't like the bailout, but it happened, so when it happened, you are ok with having no say in what happened, even though you paid out the money.
That's warped.
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fucking Coach.....dicking up yet another thread.....
cant be happy that an American hostage was saved today.....just wants to open his suck hole and complain about something.
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fucking Coach.....dicking up yet another thread.....
cant be happy that an American hostage was saved today.....just wants to open his suck hole and complain about something.
he is anti democrat anything
i think he said it himself--> he wants to see obama fail,
even if that means americans dying
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Stupid, stupid, stupid.
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he is anti democrat anything
i think he said it himself--> he wants to see obama fail,
even if that means americans dying
you are 100% right. bingo. exacto mundo. he's pissed because America didn't fail.
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Just because he deserved to get fired still doesn't give Obama the right to make that call.
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Stupid, stupid, stupid.
Coach, Coach, Coach?
are there things tre? :)
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It's not capitolism if the government is writing the checks then firing the CEO of a private company. It might be your opinion but this guy has no problem creating his own distorted constitution.
You are truly an unintelligent and uninformed man. :-\
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lets get one thing straight here...
Obama had NOTHING to do with this... this was the fine US military, an institution Obama is trying to cut and downsize!
good job for our American military!
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what so funny about it? you, rush limbaugh, michele maulkin, ann coulter, laura ingraham, matt drudge, lucianne goldberg and glenn beck have all the answers ::)
Just playing devil's advocate. Why would service in the military automatically grant someone expertise in geopolitical dynamics/events? Also, would you agree/disagree that expertise in geopolitical events can be achieved without service in the military but rather through education?
Of course, there is no substitute for actual experience. But isn't the experience you're talking about squad level combat tactics and not broad global policy?
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Coach, Coach, Coach?
are there things tre? :)
The life of the American captain was never in danger.
There was no need for any loss of life on that vessel.
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you are 100% right. bingo. exacto mundo. he's pissed because America didn't fail.
It is quite sad that he takes Obama winning over the republicans so personally.
to wish somebody to fail, your president, your country, just because your party didn't win is not being an adult
Just because he deserved to get fired still doesn't give Obama the right to make that call.
then who has the right to make that call? ???
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lets get one thing straight here...
Obama had NOTHING to do with this... this was the fine US military, an institution Obama is trying to cut and downsize!
good job for our American military!
um he's called Commander in Chief for a reason.
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The life of the American captain was never in danger.
There was no need for any loss of life on that vessel.
He's being held at gunpoint against his will , that's as in danger as it gets
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The life of the American captain was never in danger.
There was no need for any loss of life on that vessel.
AK 47's at your back isnt dangerous? Being held for ransom is not an indirect threat on human life?
where the fuck are you at?
so play out the scenario for me then Tre.....tell the uninformed of how it was a fishing expedition gone wrong.....
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You are truly an unintelligent and uninformed man. :-\
horrible years for america, regression instead of progression during Bush's terms
the list of all the things he did wrong is huge
i can't imagine if McCain was president :o goodbye america :-X
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AK 47's at your back isnt dangerous? Being held for ransom is not an indirect threat on human life?
where the fuck are you at?
so play out the scenario for me then Tre.....tell the uninformed of how it was a fishing expedition gone wrong.....
I have a solution, the next time a republican is kidnapped on a cruise or something .... don't send the military :D
lets see how they like it ;D
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The life of the American captain was never in danger.
There was no need for any loss of life on that vessel.
cheap shot easy for you to say arm chair warriors
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I have a solution, the next time a republican is kidnapped on a cruise or something .... don't send the military :D
lets see how they like it ;D
Imagine if Tiger Woods was held hostage. Coach would wallpaper Getbig with threads 24/7.
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Obama called up George Bush and asked him what he would do.
Bush said send in the seals, and Obama said
"Shit yeah Georgie Boy we don't want no human casualties! ;D"
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Imagine if Tiger Woods was held hostage. Coach would wallpaper Getbig with threads 24/7.
;D
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Obama called up George Bush and asked him what he would do.
Bush said send in the seals, and Obama said
"Shit yeah Georgie Boy we don't want no human casualties! ;D"
we are lucky Georgie didn't send the seals to a Marriage Ceremony to kill a couple of innocent men, women and children ........again
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we are lucky Georgie didn't send the seals to a Marriage Ceremony to kill a couple of innocent men, women and children ........again
that was very fucked up what a douchebag . oh and "mr slamdunk" gets the Presidential Medal of Freedom...
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I have a solution, the next time a republican is kidnapped on a cruise or something .... don't send the military :D
lets see how they like it ;D
hope this was sarcastic... cause the hippy dems want to do away with the US military!!!
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The life of the American captain was never in danger.
There was no need for any loss of life on that vessel.
If the pirates were white people would you be as bothered?
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we are lucky Georgie didn't send the seals to a Marriage Ceremony to kill a couple of innocent men, women and children ........again
What's the story behind that? Got a link? Did Bush purposely target innocents or was it an accident?
Can we contrast that with Al Qaeda who purposely targets innocents as a matter of course? And also beheads innocent prisoners?
I'm curious to know if Bush targeted innocents on purpose or if it was an accident.
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hope this was sarcastic... cause the hippy dems want to do away with the US military!!!
::) ::)
yes....they want to do away with the military. gimme a fucking break worm.
repubs build, dems downsize....its been like that for years
the military aint going anywhere....and with the amount of money they are still offering for re-ups.....there are plenty of people to fill those boots.
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that was very fucked up what a douchebag . oh and "mr slamdunk" gets the Presidential Medal of Freedom...
it's pretty funny they don't realize what they are doing
killing the innocent children, wives, husbands, brothers, fathers, mothers, relatives of people "on accident" and wondering why people
hate them and why there are terrorist bombings, you took all the guy had away by "accidentally" dropping a bomb
on his kid's birthday party, he should be thankful and kiss your american ass ::)
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Yes, the murder of these pirates can be justified. However, it is important to read the subtext before passing judgment.
Look, when you are born into a state where anarchy runs wild, you tend to duplicate what you know!
In other words, these pirates are just victims of their upbringing!
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hope this was sarcastic... cause the hippy dems want to do away with the US military!!!
if we didn't invade countries and start a war with everybody and at the same time no body
we wouldn't need a huge army :D
terrorism is not a group of people, it's an action
you can't start a war on "terrorism" ::) like georgie did
that is why Obama has never used the term "war on terrorism" lol
how are you going to win a war against an unknown enemy?
you are basically sitting in the country of other people and taking hits
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You've got boats from several countries fishing in Somali territorial waters and paying zero consideration to the people of that nation.
The pirates merely want cash and it could certainly be argued that Somalia deserves that money.
With these killings, however, I do now fear for the lives of commercial crews.
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In other words, these pirates are just victims of their upbringing!
Thank Heavens! I thought no one would bring up moral relativism. Thanks, Hank! Now this thread can really go off the rails. ;D
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You've got boats from several countries fishing in Somali territorial waters and paying zero consideration to the people of that nation.
The pirates merely want cash and it could certainly be argued that Somalia deserves that money.
you cant be serious ::)
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What's the story behind that? Got a link? Did Bush purposely target innocents or was it an accident?
Can we contrast that with Al Qaeda who purposely targets innocents as a matter of course? And also beheads innocent prisoners?
I'm curious to know if Bush targeted innocents on purpose or if it was an accident.
it's not just one story, so many innocent people died because of these so called "accidents" that i have lost count
and i'm sorry i don't have a link, perhaps bigdumbbell does?
Terrosim:
1. the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, esp. for political purposes.
2. the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization.
3. a terroristic method of governing or of resisting a government.
look at the definition and tell me who the real terrorists are
people of america are being terrorised by their own government
people of afghanistan and iraq are being terrorised by america also
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cheap shot easy for you to say arm chair warriors
I've done interdictions at sea.
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You've got boats from several countries fishing in Somali territorial waters and paying zero consideration to the people of that nation.
The pirates merely want cash and it could certainly be argued that Somalia deserves that money.
With these killings, however, I do now fear for the lives of commercial crews.
you have to be kidding
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You've got boats from several countries fishing in Somali territorial waters and paying zero consideration to the people of that nation.
That certainly is an injustice. Where's the U.N.? Where is Obama? Why is Obama killing pirates and not asking for a dialog about this unlawful fishing?
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Thank Heavens! I thought no one would bring up moral relativism. Thanks, Hank! Now this thread can really go off the rails. ;D
x2 beautiful hank MF'er pirates and pittsburgh too hahah
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it's not just one story, so many innocent people died because of these so called "accidents" that i have lost count
and i'm sorry i don't have a link, perhaps bigdumbbell does?
Just out of curiosity...if you think the U.S. wanted to kill innocents...
...don't you think we would've killed a lot more?
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Just out of curiosity...if you think the U.S. wanted to kill innocents...
...don't you think we would've killed a lot more?
where did i say the U.S. WATED to kill innocents? ??? ???
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I've done interdictions at sea.
yah and so has everybody else on the internet ::)
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where did i say the U.S. WATED to kill innocents? ??? ???
all i'm saying is make sure to target the real scum terrorists and not kill innocent people, is that wrong?
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it's not just one story, so many innocent people died because of these so called "accidents"
where did i say the U.S. WATED to kill innocents? ??? ???
So, by putting "accidents" in quotes...you really mean that in the full proper use of the word and you were not being sarcastic.
If you were being sarcastic, then logically speaking you were implying that the acts were done on "purpose" (i.e....wanting to kill innocents).
Do I have to spell this out?
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You've got boats from several countries fishing in Somali territorial waters and paying zero consideration to the people of that nation.
The pirates merely want cash and it could certainly be argued that Somalia deserves that money.
With these killings, however, I do now fear for the lives of commercial crews.
maybe Somalis need to grab a rod and reel instead of a firearm then.......then your point can be argued.
out of the 90 ships pirated by somalis......4 were fishing vessels. they are not targeting fishing vessels trying to claim their water space. they are targeting cargo liners, oil tankers, and private vessels for a reason. its an easy way to make a buck!
now 3 somalis know how easy it is to take a dirt nap...
when Somalia starts to act like a nation instead of a territory of animals, the rest of the world will start to respect their territorial waters
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maybe Somalis need to grab a rod and reel instead of a firearm then.......then your point can be argued.
out of the 90 ships pirated by somalis......4 were fishing vessels. they are not targeting fishing vessels trying to claim their water space. they are targeting cargo liners, oil tankers, and private vessels for a reason. its an easy way to make a buck!
now 3 somalis know how easy it is to take a dirt nap...
when Somalia starts to act like a nation instead of a territory of animals, the rest of the world will start to respect their territorial waters
RIGHT ON AND THANKS plus it's a faster way for somali's to make money than driving a cab in DC
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maybe Somalis need to grab a rod and reel instead of a firearm then.......then your point can be argued.
out of the 90 ships pirated by somalis......4 were fishing vessels. they are not targeting fishing vessels trying to claim their water space. they are targeting cargo liners, oil tankers, and private vessels for a reason. its an easy way to make a buck!
now 3 somalis know how easy it is to take a dirt nap...
when Somalia starts to act like a nation instead of a territory of animals, the rest of the world will start to respect their territorial waters
Agreed
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btw...over 20% of the WORLDS oil goes through the gulf of aden.......
so next time you want to bitch about gas going up as you drive around town safe and secure here in the states, let it be known that 4 skinny somali fucks can have an impact on oil prices and shipping costs......
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What do mean Obama didn't want to negociate he just told them to waste them?? Isn't Maersk a private company? Just like GM Obama didn't have the right to negociate shit (meaning the firing of that GM CEO).
obama saved an american life by authorizing action.
imagine your uproar if he had said he didn't care about that.
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hope this was sarcastic... cause the hippy dems want to do away with the US military!!!
Obama's actually spending $80 billion MORE on the wars than Bush did.
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lets get one thing straight here...
Obama had NOTHING to do with this... this was the fine US military, an institution Obama is trying to cut and downsize!
good job for our American military!
1) Obama just increased the miltary budget by something like 82 billion, and vowed to INCREASE our forces in afghanistan. The argument that Obama is cutting spending on military spending is just plain wrong.
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Obama twice approved force...
WASHINGTON (AP) - President Barack Obama twice authorized the military to rescue a U.S. captain held by Somali pirates and whose life appeared to be at risk.
Officials say Obama gave the OK on Friday and Saturday to rescue Capt. Richard Phillips from a lifeboat off the Somali coast. Officials say both times the Pentagon believed Phillips' life was at risk.
The officials spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations.
Administration officials say Obama was told Sunday of the rescue while he was in the White House residence. Officials also say Obama has phoned Phillips and Phillips' family.
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obama saved an american life by authorizing action.
imagine your uproar if he had said he didn't care about that.
Coach is against what obama does even before he does it, there is really no satisfying him :-\
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Coach is against what obama does even before he does it, there is really no satisfying him :-\
sounds like a real size queen :-X
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Obama's actually spending $80 billion MORE on the wars than Bush did.
interesting 240....are you saying that is a good thing?
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interesting 240....are you saying that is a good thing?
I don't know enough about the situation in either afghanistan or iraq to know.
Let's face it, we're not there for "keeping their people safe" -- it's about setting up bases to protect an eventual oil pipeline. And that's a very good thing for the USA to control. So, whatever it takes...
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You've got boats from several countries fishing in Somali territorial waters and paying zero consideration to the people of that nation.
The pirates merely want cash and it could certainly be argued that Somalia deserves that money.
With these killings, however, I do now fear for the lives of commercial crews.
You really have no idea what the hell you're talking about. Shocking. ::)
Most of these ships aren't fishing vessels. They're transport ships carrying goods through international waters. These pirates are going 350-400+ miles off shore to hijack these ships. They aren't in Somali waters and they certainly aren't fishing. They're usually carrying millions of dollars worth of goods.
Awesome, awesome job by the SEALs.
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I don't know enough about the situation in either afghanistan or iraq to know.
Let's face it, we're not there for "keeping their people safe" -- it's about setting up bases to protect an eventual oil pipeline. And that's a very good thing for the USA to control. So, whatever it takes...
The reason I ask, is that many people who read about the budget increase have trashed Bush for too much spending in both Iraq and Afghanistan, yet now it's "justifiable."
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This shit never would have happend under bush's term.
He hates somalis. Somalis thought obama is one of them.
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You've got boats from several countries fishing in Somali territorial waters and paying zero consideration to the people of that nation.
The pirates merely want cash and it could certainly be argued that Somalia deserves that money.
With these killings, however, I do now fear for the lives of commercial crews.
You are a fucking idiot. Hijacking commercial ships with ak-47s cannot be justified by your Afrocentrist bullshit.
And since when do pirate act on behalf of Somalia? ::) What those savages should be doing is ensuring the proper passage of commercial ships with some sort of naval task force. They probably don't do shit to stop the piracy.
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we are lucky Georgie didn't send the seals to a Marriage Ceremony to kill a couple of innocent men, women and children ........again
Oh yeah, when did that happen. And if it did, we didn't get fucked with again.
Obama = LOser
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You really have no idea what the hell you're talking about. Shocking. ::)
Most of these ships aren't fishing vessels. They're transport ships carrying goods through international waters. These pirates are going 350-400+ miles off shore to hijack these ships. They aren't in Somali waters and they certainly aren't fishing. They're usually carrying millions of dollars worth of goods.
Awesome, awesome job by the SEALs.
Well said. Again, these are PIRATES that are hijacking merchant vessels that fly under countless flags from nations all over the world. These vessels are not fishing and they certainly aren't sailing anywhere near the shore. In fact, I would venture to say these merchant vessels stay as far away from shore as they can and they are still attacked and hijacked. Until more action, like that of today, is taken, the pirates will keep thinking this will be easy money.
I'm not sure if these ships are even sailing in Somali waters as they most likely pass through international waters. You have to be an idiot to think these pirates are hijacking merchant vessels to strike a blow for Somali fisherman or whatnot.
The only reason that there hasn't been any major and real action by other nations is because it is cheaper to simply take the risk and pay off the odd ship that gets captured. Of course this has led to an increase in piracy, so sending in some muscle is the right course to take.
Babbling about fishing, sadly, is not.
Also, is Somali actually a real "state"? It seems to be in a state of war and civil war continuously...
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This shit never would have happend under bush's term.
He hates somalis. Somalis thought obama is one of them.
The piracy shit was going on even when Bush was in office, fucking idiot.
The stupidity present here is amazing. Somali pirates who could give two shits about who or who isn't president deciding to hijacking because a black dude is president.
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Well said. Again, these are PIRATES that are hijacking merchant vessels that fly under countless flags from nations all over the world. These vessels are not fishing and they certainly aren't sailing anywhere near the shore. In fact, I would venture to say these merchant vessels stay as far away from shore as they can and they are still attacked and hijacked. Until more action, like that of today, is taken, the pirates will keep thinking this will be easy money.
I'm not sure if these ships are even sailing in Somali waters as they most likely pass through international waters. You have to be an idiot to think these pirates are hijacking merchant vessels to strike a blow for Somali fisherman or whatnot.
The only reason that there hasn't been any major and real action by other nations is because it is cheaper to simply take the risk and pay off the odd ship that gets captured. Of course this has led to an increase in piracy, so sending in some muscle is the right course to take.
Also, is Somali actually a real "state"? It seems to be in a state of war and civil war continuously...
Good points. Piracy also happens in the South China Seas, also through major sea lanes. Private companies just write off the losses with their insurers and try to sit on any casualty reports. In any case, these ships, even the oilers, only carry 15-20 guys, and are non-combatants, obviously.
Somalia has not had any real functioning government in a long time. One group tries to rule the North, one the South.
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i'd be surprised if obama actually gave to go on this. More like the navy/marines getting tired of having to stand down as arrogant americans and finally decided to take action into their own hands. The big guy will alwas take the credit, especially if the out come is positive.
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i'd be surprised if obama actually gave to go on this. More like the navy/marines getting tired of having to stand down as arrogant americans and finally decided to take action into their own hands. The big guy will alwas take the credit, especially if the out come is positive.
the very anti-obama drudge is reporting obama actually gave TWO orders to ice them if they got the chance.
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I don't know enough about the situation in either afghanistan or iraq to know.
Let's face it, we're not there for "keeping their people safe" -- it's about setting up bases to protect an eventual oil pipeline. And that's a very good thing for the USA to control. So, whatever it takes...
hahahahahahaha FINALLY somebody says it
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Have we brought this upon ourselves?
How can a country slip so easily into anarchy? Time to think outside the square f#cktards!
It is important to address these questions.
These pirates are just a product of their environment....as we all are.
In other words, we are all capable of the same atrocities given the same circumstances!
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You really have no idea what the hell you're talking about. Shocking. ::)
Most of these ships aren't fishing vessels. They're transport ships carrying goods through international waters. These pirates are going 350-400+ miles off shore to hijack these ships. They aren't in Somali waters and they certainly aren't fishing. They're usually carrying millions of dollars worth of goods.
Awesome, awesome job by the SEALs.
You are a fucking idiot. Hijacking commercial ships with ak-47s cannot be justified by your Afrocentrist bullshit.
And since when do pirate act on behalf of Somalia? ::) What those savages should be doing is ensuring the proper passage of commercial ships with some sort of naval task force. They probably don't do shit to stop the piracy.
LMAO!!! I found the "Somalia deserved the money" part intriguing
Great job seals!
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Fuck Somalia, should have hung those bastards dead bodies on the side of our ships and dropped them off at the first Somalia port they came to.
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when Somalia starts to act like a nation instead of a territory of animals, the rest of the world will start to respect their territorial waters
Agree
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Obama was tight-lipped. He wouldn't comment to the media. The bad guys wanted $2 mil and a guarantee of their freedom. Obama didn't negotiate with terrorists. He told his Seals to waste them, and they did.
For his first major incident, he handled it well and it was a success. I don't think people can say he'll negotiate with and appease terrorists anymore - as he just smoked their asses.
Too bad he has no clue to the economy... I wish he showed that much backbone toward the stupid Bitch Pelosi and Dumbass Reid. Then maybe I will think differently about him...
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Carpet-bombing Somolia with nukes would be a good start. It's not like there's anything or anyone there that actually makes a positive contribution to the human race.
Kill 'em all.... pirate problem solved.
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i'd be surprised if obama actually gave to go on this. More like the navy/marines getting tired of having to stand down as arrogant americans and finally decided to take action into their own hands. The big guy will alwas take the credit, especially if the out come is positive.
you have no idea how the chain of command works.
generals/ admirals dont sneeze unless word has been passed by the powers that be.
you dont spend 30 years in the military and make it to its highest echelons by NOT following orders
shit rolls downhill.....good shit....and bad shit
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http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/nation/view/20090413-198998/Hypocrisy-seen-on-high-seas (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/nation/view/20090413-198998/Hypocrisy-seen-on-high-seas)
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i'd be surprised if obama actually gave to go on this. More like the navy/marines getting tired of having to stand down as arrogant americans and finally decided to take action into their own hands. The big guy will alwas take the credit, especially if the out come is positive.
Now this is just ridiculous to say... Generals don't start sending Naval ships out just because they feel like it.
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Now this is just ridiculous to say... Generals don't start sending Naval ships out just because they feel like it.
Especially since "Generals" aren't even in the Navy.
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Especially since "Generals" aren't even in the Navy.
Generals, Admirals... eh... semantics... The Joint Chiefs don't just willie nillie deploying anyone.
PS... Technically, there are Generals in the Marines and the Marines are an offshoot of the Navy. So really?
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You really have no idea what the hell you're talking about. Shocking. ::)
Most of these ships aren't fishing vessels. They're transport ships carrying goods through international waters. These pirates are going 350-400+ miles off shore to hijack these ships. They aren't in Somali waters and they certainly aren't fishing. They're usually carrying millions of dollars worth of goods.
Awesome, awesome job by the SEALs.
Agreed, and not only that, the vessel was carrying food and supplies for starving African and Somalian people. The US Navy should put a couple Apache Choppers on that route and when there is trouble send those fuckers out. I have a lot of friends that went to Mass Maritime...shit's crazy.
Great Job by the seals, and Tre, you're wrong on this one.
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Agreed, and not only that, the vessel was carrying food and supplies for starving African and Somalian people. The US Navy should put a couple Apache Choppers on that route and when there is trouble send those fuckers out. I have a lot of friends that went to Mass Maritime...shit's crazy.
Great Job by the seals, and Tre, you're wrong on this one.
(http://www.army-technology.com/projects/apache/images/apache1111.jpg)
navy uses cobras (army has apaches)....but i get ur point ;D ;)
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Agreed, and not only that, the vessel was carrying food and supplies for starving African and Somalian people. The US Navy should put a couple Apache Choppers on that route and when there is trouble send those fuckers out. I have a lot of friends that went to Mass Maritime...shit's crazy.
That's exactly how they solved the issue of iranian speedboats going after oil tankers in the 80's... they put a couple of barges out in the middle of the shipping lanes to serve as bases for attack helicopters and went and checked out every vessle coming from the coast out into the shipping lanes.
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That's exactly how they solved the issue of iranian speedboats going after oil tankers in the 80's... they put a couple of barges out in the middle of the shipping lanes to serve as bases for attack helicopters and went and checked out every vessle coming from the coast out into the shipping lanes.
Yes, lets see how brazen these pirates are when an apache is hovering over them ready to launch missiles at their boat. Shit, the machine guns on that bastard would be more than enough to cut their vessel in half. I can just picture the Pirates shooting at the Apache with their ak47's, as the attack chopper cuts their boat in half with a few burst from the main cannon.
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You really have no idea what the hell you're talking about. Shocking. ::)
Most of these ships aren't fishing vessels. They're transport ships carrying goods through international waters. These pirates are going 350-400+ miles off shore to hijack these ships. They aren't in Somali waters and they certainly aren't fishing. They're usually carrying millions of dollars worth of goods.
Awesome, awesome job by the SEALs.
Absolutely reckless decision-making and action by our military.
Of course no one is going to hijack a fishing boat worth $300,000 when they can hijack a ship carrying $30 million worth of cargo. ::)
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Give this to em:
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Absolutely reckless decision-making and action by our military.
Of course no one is going to hijack a fishing boat worth $300,000 when they can hijack a ship carrying $30 million worth of cargo. ::)
What the fuck are you talking about? ???
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Absolutely reckless decision-making and action by our military.
Of course no one is going to hijack a fishing boat worth $300,000 when they can hijack a ship carrying $30 million worth of cargo. ::)
You understand that the hijacked vessel was carrying food and water for Somalian's and African's correct? The route that these vessels travel is over 1 milloin square miles (impossible for the military to cover on it's own)......these pirates are just that....scumbag, criminals that should be killed on the spot.
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you understand that the vessel was carrying food and water for Somalians and Africans correct. The route that these vessels travel is over 1 milloin square miles(impossible for the military to cover on it's own)......these pirates are just that....scumbag, criminals that should be killed on the spot.
incredible that a u s citizen would openly support thugs, gangsters
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Give this to em:
Like they used to say back when I was in the Corp. "When in doubt, Light em the fcuk up!"
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Coach gets whipped on yet another thread here.
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Coach gets whipped on yet another thread here.
HAHA
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incredible that a u s citizen would openly support thugs, gangsters
Maybe once he reads up on what actually happened his opinion will change.
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incredible that a u s citizen would openly support thugs, gangsters
Probably because he has no fucking clue as to what he's talking about.
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Absolutely reckless decision-making and action by our military.
Of course no one is going to hijack a fishing boat worth $300,000 when they can hijack a ship carrying $30 million worth of cargo. ::)
Tre, are you proposing that the US Navy escort every large vessel that travels along the route that this whole thing happened on? Thats over 1 million square miles of water. The international treaties are what will not allow the vessels to arm themselves and that is the reckless part of this whole mess. These pirates have a license to do this. Your stance on this issue perplexes me, as bfury said, you where incorrect with your initial review of this topic, so I don't really know where you are going with this?
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In this photo released by the U.S. Navy, Maersk-Alabama Capt. Richard Phillips, right, shakes hands with Lt. Cmdr. David Fowler, executive officer of USS Bainbridge after being rescued by U.S Naval Forces off the coast of Somalia on Sunday April 12, 2009.
(AP Photo/ U.S. Navy)
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This image provided by the U.S. Navy taken from video made with an unmanned aerial vehicle shows the USS Bainbridge approaching a 28-foot lifeboat, bottom right, from the U.S.-flagged container ship Maersk Alabama on Thursday, April 9, 2009 in the Indian Ocean. According to the Navy, the cargo ship's Capt. Richard Phillips was being held by Somali pirates aboard the lifeboat when this video was made.
(AP Photo/U.S. Navy)
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Probably because he has no fucking clue as to what he's talking about.
You're looking at a single, isolated incident that called for POLICE action not MILITARY action.
I'm making an effort to educate people. To accomplish that, I must expand their perspectives.
Criminals exist in every country and in every culture, but once you have a clue about the motivation of the Somali people to give safe harbor to pirates who live amongst them, come back and talk to me.
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You're looking at a single, isolated incident that called for POLICE action not MILITARY action.
I'm making an effort to educate people. To accomplish that, I must expand their perspectives.
Criminals exist in every country and in every culture, but once you have a clue about the motivation of the Somali people to give safe harbor to pirates who live amongst them, come back and talk to me.
And once you have a clue about the motivation of Americans to kill motherfuckers that try to steal their shit, come back and talk to us.
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This is my dad in vietnam with a guy they captured and beat up
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/dekethecreep/dadshooting.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/dekethecreep/dadinveitnam.jpg)
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You're looking at a single, isolated incident that called for POLICE action not MILITARY action.
What agency is responsible for policing international waters, tre?
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You're looking at a single, isolated incident that called for POLICE action not MILITARY action.
I'm making an effort to educate people. To accomplish that, I must expand their perspectives.
Criminals exist in every country and in every culture, but once you have a clue about the motivation of the Somali people to give safe harbor to pirates who live amongst them, come back and talk to me.
Fuck that. Law abiding Somalians were happy about these scumbag pirates getting killed. They did hijack a ship filled with thousands of tons of FOOD and WATER for them. You are not expanding perspectives, you are defending criminals.
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This is my dad in vietnam with a guy they captured and beat up
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/dekethecreep/dadshooting.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/dekethecreep/dadinveitnam.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/dekethecreep/dadskill.jpg)
Awesome, your dad is a good man.
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You're looking at a single, isolated incident that called for POLICE action not MILITARY action.
I'm making an effort to educate people. To accomplish that, I must expand their perspectives.
Criminals exist in every country and in every culture, but once you have a clue about the motivation of the Somali people to give safe harbor to pirates who live amongst them, come back and talk to me.
And again, you have no idea as to what you're talking about. These aren't fishing boats being hijacked. They are commercial ships usually carrying millions of dollars worth of cargo in INTERNATIONAL WATERS. These pirates go 300-450+ miles off the coast to hijack these ships. They aren't doing it 50 feet from shore. Fishing boats? Come on dude. They wouldn't be getting $3 million ransoms for fishing boats.
Maybe you should educate yourself on the topic before you start trying to expand perspectives.
Out of curiosity, which "police force" oversees international waters?
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Awesome, your dad is a good man.
thanks chaos,he's killed and tortured many dudes.
i appreciate it chaos
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This is my dad in vietnam with a guy they captured and beat up
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/dekethecreep/dadshooting.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/dekethecreep/dadinveitnam.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/dekethecreep/dadskill.jpg)
I'm calling bull shit DeketheCreep, I'm sure I've seen those photos before! ;D
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I'm calling bull shit DeketheCreep, I'm sure I've seen those photos before! ;D
haaahaha really dude,thats my dad.want me to get him and post some stories, jesus haaaahahaha
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haaahaha really dude,thats my dad.want me to get him and post some stories, jesus haaaahahaha
Just testing you lol
My uncle was in Nam 8)
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Just testing you lol
My uncle was in Nam 8)
Pics or it's bullshit. ::)
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Killing a man looks like fun...
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Just testing you lol
My uncle was in Nam 8)
YOU BASTARD YOU!
;D
Ill look to see if theres any more pics of him torturing and killing some dudes
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seals have to jog a lot.
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And again, you have no idea as to what you're talking about. These aren't fishing boats being hijacked. They are commercial ships usually carrying millions of dollars worth of cargo in INTERNATIONAL WATERS. These pirates go 300-450+ miles off the coast to hijack these ships. They aren't doing it 50 feet from shore. Fishing boats? Come on dude. They wouldn't be getting $3 million ransoms for fishing boats.
Maybe you should educate yourself on the topic before you start trying to expand perspectives.
Out of curiosity, which "police force" oversees international waters?
We have already explained it to him, he refuses to accept it.
And no police force polices international waters, there isn't such a thing. That is what the US Navy was built for post- WW II. It wasn't purely military as the size and ability to project power was partly established to protect international trade routes. These pirates answer to no established govt or state. Maybe a faction or rebel group or warlord, but that's it. You can't sanction them or have the UN issue a verbal warning or what-not.
It doesn't work that way in reality, maybe in Tre's fantasy land, but not here.
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seals have to jog a lot.
sounds like a lot of catabolism.
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sounds like a lot of catabolism.
Maybe so, but it mattered not to those now dead pirates, that's for sure.
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sounds like a lot of catabolism.
seals are trained to reverse that metabolic process.. with the power of their mind... obviously.
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This is my dad in vietnam with a guy they captured and beat up
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/dekethecreep/dadshooting.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/dekethecreep/dadinveitnam.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/dekethecreep/dadskill.jpg)
hahahahaha wtf?
it's so bizzar it's funny LOL ;D
wait... did they shoot him? ???
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Hahaha they beat him up a little,his guts are hangin out thats all
im sure he's alive and well today
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im sure he's alive and well today
;D
That made me LOL
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Wouldn't that be considered a war crime though? ??? ;D
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Coach reading the story as it broke on foxnews.com...
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Oh, by the way...like the arm patch on these SEALs?
(http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/US_Navy_SEALs/aac.jpg)
I think the one with the ginger mustache is more of a Navy MANATEE.
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Big props to the USA
Hopefully this event marks a new dawn of tough justice
I hope the UK hardens up and starts putting the SAS to good use.
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SAS is no joke.
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You're looking at a single, isolated incident that called for POLICE action not MILITARY action.
I'm making an effort to educate people. To accomplish that, I must expand their perspectives.
Criminals exist in every country and in every culture, but once you have a clue about the motivation of the Somali people to give safe harbor to pirates who live amongst them, come back and talk to me.
police action in international waters? the rule of law to a gangsta thug warlord is a bullet to the fuckin face
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President ordered the deaths of pirates? I guess I will never illegally download another song again.
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President ordered the deaths of pirates? I guess I will never illegally download another song again.
hahahahahhahaa
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