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Re: Navy Seals to the Rescue!
« Reply #100 on: April 12, 2009, 05:14:15 PM »
interesting 240....are you saying that is a good thing?

I don't know enough about the situation in either afghanistan or iraq to know. 

Let's face it, we're not there for "keeping their people safe" -- it's about setting up bases to protect an eventual oil pipeline.  And that's a very good thing for the USA to control.   So, whatever it takes...

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Re: Navy Seals to the Rescue!
« Reply #101 on: April 12, 2009, 05:17:10 PM »

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Re: Navy Seals to the Rescue!
« Reply #102 on: April 12, 2009, 05:19:13 PM »
You've got boats from several countries fishing in Somali territorial waters and paying zero consideration to the people of that nation.

The pirates merely want cash and it could certainly be argued that Somalia deserves that money.

With these killings, however, I do now fear for the lives of commercial crews.

You really have no idea what the hell you're talking about. Shocking.  ::)

Most of these ships aren't fishing vessels. They're transport ships carrying goods through international waters. These pirates are going 350-400+ miles off shore to hijack these ships. They aren't in Somali waters and they certainly aren't fishing. They're usually carrying millions of dollars worth of goods.


Awesome, awesome job by the SEALs.

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Re: Navy Seals to the Rescue!
« Reply #103 on: April 12, 2009, 05:37:56 PM »
I don't know enough about the situation in either afghanistan or iraq to know. 

Let's face it, we're not there for "keeping their people safe" -- it's about setting up bases to protect an eventual oil pipeline.  And that's a very good thing for the USA to control.   So, whatever it takes...


The reason I ask, is that many people who read about the budget increase have trashed Bush for too much spending in both Iraq and Afghanistan, yet now it's "justifiable."

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Re: Navy Seals to the Rescue!
« Reply #104 on: April 12, 2009, 05:48:46 PM »
This shit never would have happend under bush's term.
He hates somalis.  Somalis thought obama is one of them.
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Re: Navy Seals to the Rescue!
« Reply #105 on: April 12, 2009, 05:50:34 PM »
You've got boats from several countries fishing in Somali territorial waters and paying zero consideration to the people of that nation.

The pirates merely want cash and it could certainly be argued that Somalia deserves that money.

With these killings, however, I do now fear for the lives of commercial crews.

You are a fucking idiot. Hijacking commercial ships with ak-47s cannot be justified by your Afrocentrist bullshit.

And since when do pirate act on behalf of Somalia?  ::) What those savages should be doing is ensuring the proper passage of commercial ships with some sort of naval task force. They probably don't do shit to stop the piracy.

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Re: Navy Seals to the Rescue!
« Reply #106 on: April 12, 2009, 05:50:46 PM »
we are lucky Georgie didn't send the seals to a Marriage Ceremony to kill a couple of innocent men, women and children ........again


Oh yeah, when did that happen.  And if it did, we didn't get fucked with again.
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Re: Navy Seals to the Rescue!
« Reply #107 on: April 12, 2009, 05:55:55 PM »
You really have no idea what the hell you're talking about. Shocking.  ::)

Most of these ships aren't fishing vessels. They're transport ships carrying goods through international waters. These pirates are going 350-400+ miles off shore to hijack these ships. They aren't in Somali waters and they certainly aren't fishing. They're usually carrying millions of dollars worth of goods.


Awesome, awesome job by the SEALs.

Well said. Again, these are PIRATES that are hijacking merchant vessels that fly under countless flags from nations all over the world. These vessels are not fishing and they certainly aren't sailing anywhere near the shore. In fact, I would venture to say these merchant vessels stay as far away from shore as they can and they are still attacked and hijacked. Until more action, like that of today, is taken, the pirates will keep thinking this will be easy money.

I'm not sure if these ships are even sailing in Somali waters as they most likely pass through international waters. You have to be an idiot to think these pirates are hijacking merchant vessels to strike a blow for Somali fisherman or whatnot.

The only reason that there hasn't been any major and real action by other nations is because it is cheaper to simply take the risk and pay off the odd ship that gets captured. Of course this has led to an increase in piracy, so sending in some muscle is the right course to take.

Babbling about fishing, sadly, is not.

Also, is Somali actually a real "state"? It seems to be in a state of war and civil war continuously...

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Re: Navy Seals to the Rescue!
« Reply #108 on: April 12, 2009, 05:57:05 PM »
This shit never would have happend under bush's term.
He hates somalis.  Somalis thought obama is one of them.

The piracy shit was going on even when Bush was in office, fucking idiot.

The stupidity present here is amazing. Somali pirates who could give two shits about who or who isn't president deciding to hijacking because a black dude is president.

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Re: Navy Seals to the Rescue!
« Reply #109 on: April 12, 2009, 06:04:48 PM »
Well said. Again, these are PIRATES that are hijacking merchant vessels that fly under countless flags from nations all over the world. These vessels are not fishing and they certainly aren't sailing anywhere near the shore. In fact, I would venture to say these merchant vessels stay as far away from shore as they can and they are still attacked and hijacked. Until more action, like that of today, is taken, the pirates will keep thinking this will be easy money.

I'm not sure if these ships are even sailing in Somali waters as they most likely pass through international waters. You have to be an idiot to think these pirates are hijacking merchant vessels to strike a blow for Somali fisherman or whatnot.

The only reason that there hasn't been any major and real action by other nations is because it is cheaper to simply take the risk and pay off the odd ship that gets captured. Of course this has led to an increase in piracy, so sending in some muscle is the right course to take.

Also, is Somali actually a real "state"? It seems to be in a state of war and civil war continuously...
Good points. Piracy also happens in the South China Seas, also through major sea lanes. Private companies just write off the losses with their insurers and try to sit on any casualty reports. In any case, these ships, even the oilers, only carry 15-20 guys, and are non-combatants, obviously.   

Somalia has not had any real functioning government in a long time. One group tries to rule the North, one the South.

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Re: Navy Seals to the Rescue!
« Reply #110 on: April 12, 2009, 06:13:49 PM »
i'd be surprised if obama actually gave to go on this.  More like the navy/marines getting tired of having to stand down as arrogant americans and finally decided to take action into their own hands.  The big guy will alwas take the credit, especially if the out come is positive.

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Re: Navy Seals to the Rescue!
« Reply #111 on: April 12, 2009, 06:19:44 PM »
i'd be surprised if obama actually gave to go on this.  More like the navy/marines getting tired of having to stand down as arrogant americans and finally decided to take action into their own hands.  The big guy will alwas take the credit, especially if the out come is positive.

the very anti-obama drudge is reporting obama actually gave TWO orders to ice them if they got the chance.

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Re: Navy Seals to the Rescue!
« Reply #112 on: April 12, 2009, 06:27:02 PM »
I don't know enough about the situation in either afghanistan or iraq to know. 

Let's face it, we're not there for "keeping their people safe" -- it's about setting up bases to protect an eventual oil pipeline.   And that's a very good thing for the USA to control.   So, whatever it takes...

hahahahahahaha FINALLY somebody says it

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Re: Navy Seals to the Rescue!
« Reply #113 on: April 12, 2009, 06:28:34 PM »
Have we brought this upon ourselves?  

How can a country slip so easily into anarchy?  Time to think outside the square f#cktards!  

It is important to address these questions.  

These pirates are just a product of their environment....as we all are.  

In other words, we are all capable of the same atrocities given the same circumstances!

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Re: Navy Seals to the Rescue!
« Reply #114 on: April 12, 2009, 06:29:42 PM »
You really have no idea what the hell you're talking about. Shocking.  ::)

Most of these ships aren't fishing vessels. They're transport ships carrying goods through international waters. These pirates are going 350-400+ miles off shore to hijack these ships. They aren't in Somali waters and they certainly aren't fishing. They're usually carrying millions of dollars worth of goods.


Awesome, awesome job by the SEALs.

You are a fucking idiot. Hijacking commercial ships with ak-47s cannot be justified by your Afrocentrist bullshit.

And since when do pirate act on behalf of Somalia?  ::) What those savages should be doing is ensuring the proper passage of commercial ships with some sort of naval task force. They probably don't do shit to stop the piracy.

LMAO!!! I found the "Somalia deserved the money" part intriguing
Great job seals!

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Re: Navy Seals to the Rescue!
« Reply #115 on: April 12, 2009, 06:35:19 PM »
Fuck Somalia, should have hung those bastards dead bodies on the side of our ships and dropped them off at the first Somalia port they came to.
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Re: Navy Seals to the Rescue!
« Reply #116 on: April 12, 2009, 06:41:42 PM »
when Somalia starts to act like a nation instead of a territory of animals, the rest of the world will start to respect their territorial waters

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Re: Navy Seals to the Rescue!
« Reply #117 on: April 12, 2009, 06:44:53 PM »
Obama was tight-lipped.  He wouldn't comment to the media.  The bad guys wanted $2 mil and a guarantee of their freedom.  Obama didn't negotiate with terrorists.  He told his Seals to waste them, and they did.

For his first major incident, he handled it well and it was a success.  I don't think people can say he'll negotiate with and appease terrorists anymore - as he just smoked their asses.

Too bad he has no clue to the economy... I wish he showed that much backbone toward the stupid Bitch Pelosi and Dumbass Reid. Then maybe I will think differently about him...

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Re: Navy Seals to the Rescue!
« Reply #118 on: April 12, 2009, 06:49:52 PM »
Carpet-bombing Somolia with nukes would be a good start.  It's not like there's anything or anyone there that actually makes a positive contribution to the human race.


Kill 'em all....  pirate problem solved.
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Re: Navy Seals to the Rescue!
« Reply #119 on: April 12, 2009, 06:52:13 PM »
i'd be surprised if obama actually gave to go on this.  More like the navy/marines getting tired of having to stand down as arrogant americans and finally decided to take action into their own hands.  The big guy will alwas take the credit, especially if the out come is positive.

you have no idea how the chain of command works.

generals/ admirals dont sneeze unless word has been passed by the powers that be.


you dont spend 30 years in the military and make it to its highest echelons by NOT following orders




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Re: Navy Seals to the Rescue!
« Reply #121 on: April 12, 2009, 06:55:33 PM »
i'd be surprised if obama actually gave to go on this.  More like the navy/marines getting tired of having to stand down as arrogant americans and finally decided to take action into their own hands.  The big guy will alwas take the credit, especially if the out come is positive.

Now this is just ridiculous to say... Generals don't start sending Naval ships out just because they feel like it.

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Re: Navy Seals to the Rescue!
« Reply #122 on: April 12, 2009, 06:56:51 PM »
Now this is just ridiculous to say... Generals don't start sending Naval ships out just because they feel like it.


Especially since "Generals" aren't even in the Navy.
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Re: Navy Seals to the Rescue!
« Reply #123 on: April 12, 2009, 07:00:44 PM »

Especially since "Generals" aren't even in the Navy.

Generals, Admirals... eh... semantics... The Joint Chiefs don't just willie nillie deploying anyone.

PS... Technically, there are Generals in the Marines and the Marines are an offshoot of the Navy. So really?

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Re: Navy Seals to the Rescue!
« Reply #124 on: April 12, 2009, 07:14:21 PM »
You really have no idea what the hell you're talking about. Shocking.  ::)

Most of these ships aren't fishing vessels. They're transport ships carrying goods through international waters. These pirates are going 350-400+ miles off shore to hijack these ships. They aren't in Somali waters and they certainly aren't fishing. They're usually carrying millions of dollars worth of goods.


Awesome, awesome job by the SEALs.


Agreed, and not only that, the vessel was carrying food and supplies for starving African and Somalian people.  The US Navy should put a couple Apache Choppers on that route and when there is trouble send those fuckers out.  I have a lot of friends that went to Mass Maritime...shit's crazy. 

Great Job by the seals, and Tre, you're wrong on this one.