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After watching this nonsense cooked up by the GOP and Fixed Noise today I think we have seen the falling of the GOP... I dont think a party has ever become more desperate.... they put us in this mess we are in and now are throwing stones at Obama for having to clean up their mess... Politics are disgusting now... Not 1 "Tea Bagger" i saw interviewed on ANY network made ANY SENSE and when asked about their signs they didnt even know what their sign meant when questioned about it...
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After watching this nonsense cooked up by the GOP and Fixed Noise today I think we have seen the falling of the GOP... I dont think a party has ever become more desperate.... they put us in this mess we are in and now are throwing stones at Obama for having to clean up their mess... Politics are disgusting now... Not 1 "Tea Bagger" i saw interviewed on ANY network made ANY SENSE and when asked about their signs they didnt even know what their sign meant when questioned about it...
Do you have political amnesia or something? The GOP is no more desperate than the Dems were JUST FOUR YEARS ago. If history has taught us anything is that the balance of power can switch on a dime. Keep foolishly thinking that the GOP is done for good and the Dems have Washington on lock. If the liberals don't get their act together, they could suffer the same fate in '10 that the GOP did in '06 (just two years after they had the majority in the House and Senate, coupled with Bush's re-election).
The reason that those people are upset is that, for all his yapping about "change", Obama isn't cleaning up the mess. He's spent more money in 8 weeks than Bush did in 8 years. As I've said before, Obama didn't start the fire; but he's the one dumping gas on it now. The man who preached "we can't afford more of the same" is ironically giving people just that.
One protestor in the crowd had a sign that summed it up well, YOU CAN'T BLAME BUSH, ANYMORE!!!. And he's right. People are sick and tired of Obama's making excuses for his screw-ups.
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Do you have political amnesia or something? The GOP is no more desperate than the Dems were JUST FOUR YEARS ago. If history has taught us anything is that the balance of power can switch on a dime. Keep foolishly thinking that the GOP is done for good and the Dems have Washington on lock. If the liberals don't get their act together, they could suffer the same fate in '10 that the GOP did in '06 (just two years after they had the majority in the House and Senate, coupled with Bush's re-election).
The reason that those people are upset is that, for all his yapping about "change", Obama isn't cleaning up the mess. He's spent more money in 8 weeks than Bush did in 8 years. As I've said before, Obama didn't start the fire; but he's the one dumping gas on it now. The man who preached "we can't afford more of the same" is ironically giving people just that.
One protestor in the crowd had a sign that summed it up well, YOU CAN'T BLAME BUSH, ANYMORE!!!. And he's right. People are sick and tired of Obama's making excuses for his screw-ups.
Oh Puleaze!!!
It took 8 years to get yourselves into that mess, ...do you really think Obama can get you out in less than 4 mos?
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Oh Puleaze!!!
It took 8 years to get yourselves into that mess, ...do you really think Obama can get you out in less than 4 mos?
"Oh Pulease!!!" is right.
Obama's policies not only will NOT get us out of the mess, it is making the mess EVEN GREATER. That's why I said, "Obama didn't start the fire; but he's the one dumping gas on it NOW".
And, again, he blames Bush for his foul-ups. Bush didn't give AIG bailout money, along with permission to spend some of it on BONUSES for their execs, only to go in a feigned tirade (because the suits actually did with Team Obama said they could do).
Nor did Bush sign an 1,100-page, $800 billion bill, with more swine than a chain of Texas BBQ joints, without reading the thing.
Of course, the point you completely missed is that Busted's proclamation (as are others like it) that the GOP is basically finished and the Dems' Washington rule is permanent is utterly preposterous. Again, where the Republicans are now, the Dems were back in '05.
Their party didn't come to an end; and neither will the GOP.
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Obama and Bush both suck:
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Obama and Bush both suck:
A number of people at these protests said much the same thing. Glenn Beck got a healthy pop for his comments (paraphrased), "A lot of the Democrats just don't get it. That's because the Democrats SUCK (pause for applause).......but not anymore than the Republicans SUCK!!! (pause for applause)!"
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A number of people at these protests said much the same thing. Glenn Beck got a healthy pop for his comments (paraphrased), "A lot of the Democrats just don't get it. That's because the Democrats SUCK (pause for applause).......but not anymore than the Republicans SUCK!!! (pause for applause)!"
::) Sounds like a wonderful solution. Hate everyone.
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Obama and Bush both suck:
I didn't see the pic when I initially responded to your post. I hope that the second one is Obama (as Uncle Sam) merely STEALING money from planet Earth.
::) Sounds like a wonderful solution. Hate everyone.
If you bother watching the actual protests themselves, instead of the chopped-up, edited, and woefully inaccurate clips from the ratings-deprived Obama-worshippers at MSNBC, you would have heard at least one of the solutions that some folks at the protests had.
Of course, the point of all this is (notwithstanding that a good number of people there were voicing their displeasure at the actions of BOTH parties, as of late), this screwball idea (touted by you, Busted, Team MSNBC, and other like-minded folks) that the GOP is done for good is utterly ridiculous.
Again, go back to 2005. What did the Democratic party resemble? How were they acting after losing more seats in the House and Senate? How "blue" were they when Bush got re-elected?
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If you bother watching the actual protests themselves, instead of the chopped-up, edited, and woefully inaccurate clips from the ratings-deprived Obama-worshippers at MSNBC, you would have heard at least one of the solutions that some folks at the protests had.
Of course, the point of all this is (notwithstanding that a good number of people there were voicing their displeasure at the actions of BOTH parties, as of late), this screwball idea (touted by you, Busted, Team MSNBC, and other like-minded folks) that the GOP is done for good is utterly ridiculous.
Again, go back to 2005. What did the Democratic party resemble? How were they acting after losing more seats in the House and Senate? How "blue" were they when Bush got re-elected?
Name one of the solutions please.
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Well, when EVERYONE is a part of the problem then what is the answer?
A viable third party...as what was ignored in countless other threads. BOTH Republicans and Democrats are a part of the problem. TA, your love affair with Democrats is just as bad as some poster's love affair with the GOP. Party lines don't help anything.
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::) Sounds like a wonderful solution. Hate everyone.
Obama is just as much as a militaristic war president as Bush. Yet people who criticised Bush for those very things on the left are now complacent with Obama.
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Well, when EVERYONE is a part of the problem then what is the answer?
A viable third party...as what was ignored in countless other threads. BOTH Republicans and Democrats are a part of the problem. TA, your love affair with Democrats is just as bad as some poster's love affair with the GOP. Party lines don't help anything.
I wouldn`t mind seeing a viable Socialist party like our Nation once had.
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If you bother watching the actual protests themselves, instead of the chopped-up, edited, and woefully inaccurate clips from the ratings-deprived Obama-worshippers at MSNBC, you would have heard at least one of the solutions that some folks at the protests had.
Of course, the point of all this is (notwithstanding that a good number of people there were voicing their displeasure at the actions of BOTH parties, as of late), this screwball idea (touted by you, Busted, Team MSNBC, and other like-minded folks) that the GOP is done for good is utterly ridiculous.
True Adonis is is so caught up in semantics and statistics that the true meaning of some things goes right over his lumpy head.
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True Adonis is is so caught up in semantics and statistics that the true meaning of some things goes right over his lumpy head.
And whilst claiming to be a socialist, most of whom oppose war and spending for war, he supports a warmonger president who wastes money abroad and cannot even comment on it.
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And whilst claiming to be a socialist, most of whom oppose war and spending for war, he supports a warmonger president who wastes money abroad and cannot even comment on it.
True Anus has contradicted himself many times and yet his superior intellect can't seem to notice how/when.
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And whilst claiming to be a socialist, most of whom oppose war and spending for war, he supports a warmonger president who wastes money abroad and cannot even comment on it.
I do and have commented on it. I don`t agree with some of Obama`s policies, but that does not mean I have to automatically disagree with all of his policies. This does not have to be an all or nothing type of thing.
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"Oh Pulease!!!" is right.
Obama's policies not only will NOT get us out of the mess, it is making the mess EVEN GREATER. That's why I said, "Obama didn't start the fire; but he's the one dumping gas on it NOW".
And, again, he blames Bush for his foul-ups. Bush didn't give AIG bailout money, along with permission to spend some of it on BONUSES for their execs, only to go in a feigned tirade (because the suits actually did with Team Obama said they could do).
Nor did Bush sign an 1,100-page, $800 billion bill, with more swine than a chain of Texas BBQ joints, without reading the thing.
Of course, the point you completely missed is that Busted's proclamation (as are others like it) that the GOP is basically finished and the Dems' Washington rule is permanent is utterly preposterous. Again, where the Republicans are now, the Dems were back in '05.
Their party didn't come to an end; and neither will the GOP.
The 20-40 generation do not agree with the Bible Thumping conservative ways... This fake grass routes "Tea Party" is already being exposed and tied to Newt Gingirch... Mark my words with in 3 months the GOP will wish they never did the Tea Baggin... All the investigators and Bloggers are already starting to dig up the fraud...
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If you bother watching the actual protests themselves, instead of the chopped-up, edited, and woefully inaccurate clips from the ratings-deprived Obama-worshippers at MSNBC, you would have heard at least one of the solutions that some folks at the protests had.
Of course, the point of all this is (notwithstanding that a good number of people there were voicing their displeasure at the actions of BOTH parties, as of late), this screwball idea (touted by you, Busted, Team MSNBC, and other like-minded folks) that the GOP is done for good is utterly ridiculous.
Again, go back to 2005. What did the Democratic party resemble? How were they acting after losing more seats in the House and Senate? How "blue" were they when Bush got re-elected?
I watched these morons on FOX NEWS and on YOUTUBE... Bottom line, the GOP is pissed a BLACK MAN is the PRESIDENT and are slinging everthing they can except calling him a N_ _ _ _ R... 90% of the people in these crows are paying less taxes TODAY than they have in their LIFE..
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If Ron Paul wasnt a religious nut, Id vote for him...
Personally, I like Jessie Ventura... Say what you want about him, that man calls it how it is, knows policy, has the credentials and when he was running Minnesota he BALANCED THEIR BUDGET
Well, when EVERYONE is a part of the problem then what is the answer?
A viable third party...as what was ignored in countless other threads. BOTH Republicans and Democrats are a part of the problem. TA, your love affair with Democrats is just as bad as some poster's love affair with the GOP. Party lines don't help anything.
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Name one of the solutions please.
Cut taxes on buisiness,stop bailing out failed companies,stop pushing cap and trade,stop pushing card check,stop taking my tax money and spending it on abortions in other countries,stop dictating what CEOs can make,stop letting idiots like Barney Frank control anything to do with money,stop putting tax cheats in to run the economy,stop putting out idiotic papers on right wing extremists...etc etc etc
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Ok why dont you come back with a Intelligent response. You name a couple things that can be argued then you say "Stop sending money on abortions in other countries" "Stop putting out idiotic papers on right wing extremists" Bush put out 2 papers on left wing extremists, were you upset at that?
Cut taxes on buisiness,stop bailing out failed companies,stop pushing cap and trade,stop pushing card check,stop taking my tax money and spending it on abortions in other countries,stop dictating what CEOs can make,stop letting idiots like Barney Frank control anything to do with money,stop putting tax cheats in to run the economy,stop putting out idiotic papers on right wing extremists...etc etc etc
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The 20-40 generation do not agree with the Bible Thumping conservative ways... This fake grass routes "Tea Party" is already being exposed and tied to Newt Gingirch... Mark my words with in 3 months the GOP will wish they never did the Tea Baggin... All the investigators and Bloggers are already starting to dig up the fraud...
This has nothing to do with “Bible-thumping”, notwithstanding that fact that some, whom you would lump in that category, voted for Obama (and one of the alleged "Bible-thumping" issues passed in the biggest "blue" states in the country and also passed in a red-turned-blue state on the opposite coast).
As for the "investigators and bloggers", we've already seen that many are far-left blogs, whose vitrol was well-ancitipated long before the tea-parties even started.
Once again, you missed the point. Your foolish declaration that the GOP is gone for good is the EXACT mirror image of silly comments made by supporters of the GOP after the 2004 election.
And this has nothing to do with a black man being president. Or did you forget that the GOP appointed the first black Supreme Court Justice, the first black Secretary of State, the second black (and first black female) Secretary of State? Not to mention, its current chairman is a black man.
So, spare me your crackpot quips about racist GOP folks. The protestors there aren't concerned about black; they're concerned about green, namely the green of our country, being foolishly and wastefully spent.
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Do you have political amnesia or something? The GOP is no more desperate than the Dems were JUST FOUR YEARS ago. If history has taught us anything is that the balance of power can switch on a dime.
;D
Traumatized Kerry supporters in Florida seek therapy
Tue Nov-09-04
MIAMI (AFP) - Shocked supporters of defeated US presidential candidate John Kerry are seeking help from psychologists, who refer to their condition as "post-election selection trauma," it was reported. The Boca Raton News said Palm Beach, Florida trauma specialist Douglas Schooler alone has already treated 15 clients and friends with intense hypnotherapy since the Democratic candidate conceded on November 3.
"I had one friend tell me he's never been so depressed and angry in his life," Schooler said. "I observed patients threatening to leave the country or staring listlessly into space. They were emotionally paralyzed, shocked and devastated," he told the daily. "We're calling it 'post-election selection trauma' and we're working to develop a counseling program for it," said Rob Gordon, the Boca Raton-based executive director of the American Health Association.
"It's like post-traumatic stress syndrome, but it's a short-term shock rather than a childhood trauma," he told the daily.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2650296
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Personally, I miss the GOP from the late 60s and 70s... Only since Reagan has the Republican party turned into a bunch of spend happy chicken hawks who don't care who does what in the party as long as they say they're against gay marriage and abortion.
The Christian right really fucked over the Republicans.
Sad how the mighty have fallen really.
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If Ron Paul wasnt a religious nut, Id vote for him...
Personally, I like Jessie Ventura... Say what you want about him, that man calls it how it is, knows policy, has the credentials and when he was running Minnesota he BALANCED THEIR BUDGET
I agree with you. I really enjoyed reading Ventura's books. They were great to read to see how he views things and to see the crap that he has to put up with from BOTH parties. I really like both Ron Paul and Jesse Ventura though. I would vote for either one as they both tell it how it is etc. They both have things that I don't agree with, but no candidate is perfect.
We could really have two leaders to two different parties if Ron Paul would run for the Libertarian candidate, and Ventura could run with the independent ticket. That gives us two parties right there.
I wouldn't even care if we had a viable socialist party. Bernie Sanders is a very smart man, and besides, it is simply one more choice for the American people.
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Ok why dont you come back with a Intelligent response. You name a couple things that can be argued then you say "Stop sending money on abortions in other countries" "Stop putting out idiotic papers on right wing extremists" Bush put out 2 papers on left wing extremists, were you upset at that?
I dont remember Bush saying that people who are one issue voters like abortion advocates are potential terrorists,like these jerk offs did about pro lifers.
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I dont remember Bush saying that people who are one issue voters like abortion advocates are potential terrorists,like these jerk offs did about pro lifers.
Abortion advocates never bombed any clinics... Maybe that's why???
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If Ron Paul wasnt a religious nut, Id vote for him...
Personally, I like Jessie Ventura... Say what you want about him, that man calls it how it is, knows policy, has the credentials and when he was running Minnesota he BALANCED THEIR BUDGET
RP is religious but keeps it to himself. That is enough for me.
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Abortion advocates never bombed any clinics... Maybe that's why???
Have animal rights people created mayhem all over?Any surveliance on them?
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Have animal rights people created mayhem all over?Any surveliance on them?
Abortion advocates only promote killing unborn children all over the world and ask taxpayers to fund not only its promotion, but its actual act all over the world.
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Cut taxes on buisiness,stop bailing out failed companies,stop pushing cap and trade,stop pushing card check,stop taking my tax money and spending it on abortions in other countries,stop dictating what CEOs can make,stop letting idiots like Barney Frank control anything to do with money,stop putting tax cheats in to run the economy,stop putting out idiotic papers on right wing extremists...etc etc etc
I hade to lose 40 I.Q. points just to read this post. This is a time warp of the last 8yrs of bushdom.......good gawd are we tired of hearing this strategy????? It destroyed america.
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Do you have political amnesia or something? The GOP is no more desperate than the Dems were JUST FOUR YEARS ago. If history has taught us anything is that the balance of power can switch on a dime. Keep foolishly thinking that the GOP is done for good and the Dems have Washington on lock. If the liberals don't get their act together, they could suffer the same fate in '10 that the GOP did in '06 (just two years after they had the majority in the House and Senate, coupled with Bush's re-election).
The reason that those people are upset is that, for all his yapping about "change", Obama isn't cleaning up the mess. He's spent more money in 8 weeks than Bush did in 8 years. As I've said before, Obama didn't start the fire; but he's the one dumping gas on it now. The man who preached "we can't afford more of the same" is ironically giving people just that.
One protestor in the crowd had a sign that summed it up well, YOU CAN'T BLAME BUSH, ANYMORE!!!. And he's right. People are sick and tired of Obama's making excuses for his screw-ups.
I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss what McWay is saying. How long are we all going to be jerked around by this cycle before we figure out the scam?
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I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss what McWay is saying. How long are we all going to be jerked around by this cycle before we figure out the scam?
Soon as you lead us to victory, Che. ::)
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Have animal rights people created mayhem all over?Any surveliance on them?
Probably... I am not in the FBI or CIA, so I wouldn't know... but I wouldn't doubt it at all.
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"Oh Pulease!!!" is right.
Obama's policies not only will NOT get us out of the mess, it is making the mess EVEN GREATER. That's why I said, "Obama didn't start the fire; but he's the one dumping gas on it NOW".
And, again, he blames Bush for his foul-ups. Bush didn't give AIG bailout money, along with permission to spend some of it on BONUSES for their execs, only to go in a feigned tirade (because the suits actually did with Team Obama said they could do).
Nor did Bush sign an 1,100-page, $800 billion bill, with more swine than a chain of Texas BBQ joints, without reading the thing.
Of course, the point you completely missed is that Busted's proclamation (as are others like it) that the GOP is basically finished and the Dems' Washington rule is permanent is utterly preposterous. Again, where the Republicans are now, the Dems were back in '05.
Their party didn't come to an end; and neither will the GOP.
no..Bush just spent and borrowed until our asses are in hock to the chinese......and I am a Bush fan......
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Soon as you lead us to victory, Che. ::)
go away troll... I would never suggest a Che Guevara or Hugo Chavez is right for America. Come back when you have a clue about who I am and why I post what I do. Until then you're just a troll and no, I'm not about to get into meltdown with you so take it to the alphabet boards.
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go away troll... I would never suggest a Che Guevara or Hugo Chavez is right for America. Come back when you have a clue about who I am and why I post what I do. Until then you're just a troll and no, I'm not about to get into meltdown with you so take it to the alphabet boards.
Meltdown.
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I watched them talk about this on FIXED NOISE TODAY... talking about the GOP Possibly dividing into 2 parties... Conservative and?
This has nothing to do with “Bible-thumping”, notwithstanding that fact that some, whom you would lump in that category, voted for Obama (and one of the alleged "Bible-thumping" issues passed in the biggest "blue" states in the country and also passed in a red-turned-blue state on the opposite coast).
As for the "investigators and bloggers", we've already seen that many are far-left blogs, whose vitrol was well-ancitipated long before the tea-parties even started.
Once again, you missed the point. Your foolish declaration that the GOP is gone for good is the EXACT mirror image of silly comments made by supporters of the GOP after the 2004 election.
And this has nothing to do with a black man being president. Or did you forget that the GOP appointed the first black Supreme Court Justice, the first black Secretary of State, the second black (and first black female) Secretary of State? Not to mention, its current chairman is a black man.
So, spare me your crackpot quips about racist GOP folks. The protestors there aren't concerned about black; they're concerned about green, namely the green of our country, being foolishly and wastefully spent.
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RP is religious but keeps it to himself. That is enough for me.
No he doesnt, he talks about it openly
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yeah Abortion protesters dont care when our young Americans get sent to DIE and they go KILL OTHER people in other countries over LIES, but they care if a American citizen has an abortion that doesnt effect any one of them in any way..
As soon as i see right wing Abortion protesters protesting the war then il listen to them...
Abortion advocates only promote killing unborn children all over the world and ask taxpayers to fund not only its promotion, but its actual act all over the world.
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Traumatized Kerry supporters in Florida seek therapy
Tue Nov-09-04
MIAMI (AFP) - Shocked supporters of defeated US presidential candidate John Kerry are seeking help from psychologists, who refer to their condition as "post-election selection trauma," it was reported. The Boca Raton News said Palm Beach, Florida trauma specialist Douglas Schooler alone has already treated 15 clients and friends with intense hypnotherapy since the Democratic candidate conceded on November 3.
"I had one friend tell me he's never been so depressed and angry in his life," Schooler said. "I observed patients threatening to leave the country or staring listlessly into space. They were emotionally paralyzed, shocked and devastated," he told the daily. "We're calling it 'post-election selection trauma' and we're working to develop a counseling program for it," said Rob Gordon, the Boca Raton-based executive director of the American Health Association.
"It's like post-traumatic stress syndrome, but it's a short-term shock rather than a childhood trauma," he told the daily.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2650296
I completely forgot about that one, Loco: Liberals seeing shrinks after Kerry’s loss……that was priceless!!!
Add to that, the numerous blogs of liberals from northeastern “blue” states, who were wailing about seceding from the USA, after Nov 2004 (just as some folks in Texas are thinking today).
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Good Ol' Divide and Conquer.
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I watched them talk about this on FIXED NOISE TODAY... talking about the GOP Possibly dividing into 2 parties... Conservative and?
The point to this would be......
Again, it's hardly different than all the blubbering the Dems were doing in '05 after Bush's re-election. The far-left were yakking about separating and forming their own party, too. Thanks to Loco, I got a reminder of the new-found "ailments" that hit liberals after Kerry's loss.
As stated earlier, apparently, you have a case of political amnesia.
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The point to this would be......
Again, it's hardly different than all the blubbering the Dems were doing in '05 after Bush's re-election. The far-left were yakking about separating and forming their own party, too. Thanks to Loco, I got a reminder of the new-found "ailments" that hit liberals after Kerry's loss.
As stated earlier, apparently, you have a case of political amnesia.
I don't remember anyone starting a countrywide protest day because Bush got re-elected.
Perhaps my memory is just failing me though... I'm sure there were a few people who were completely bent, but in general, most people just sucked it up.
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These protests aren’t about Obama’s election. They were about what Obama has done, spending-wise, SINCE he’s been in office (and what Bush did, spending wise, beforehand).
Obama won fair and square; unlike the Democrats with Bush, the GOP has recognized that.
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These protests aren’t about Obama’s election. They were about what Obama has done, spending-wise, SINCE he’s been in office (and what Bush did, spending wise, beforehand).
Obama won fair and square; unlike the Democrats with Bush, the GOP has recognized that.
Fixed.
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"Fix" your own posts, Deicide. Leave mine alone.
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These protests aren’t about Obama’s election. They were about what Obama has done, spending-wise, SINCE he’s been in office (and what Bush did, spending wise, beforehand).
Obama won fair and square; unlike the Democrats with Bush, the GOP has recognized that.
Then why do all of the protesters have Obama signs? You know... Obama = Hitler... What you believe them to be about and what the protesters believe them to be about are two different things apparently.
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Then why do all of the protesters have Obama signs? You know... Obama = Hitler... What you believe them to be about and what the protesters believe them to be about are two different things apparently.
Obama happens to be the guy CURRENTLY in charge, CONTINUING the buck-wild spending that Bush started. As for the "Obama = Hitler" signs, Yes, there were such signs (though I've seen far worse signs about Pres. Bush).
There are also signs, like "Throw them all out" with a picture of a donkey on the left and an elephant on the right.
Most of the signs I saw read like "T.E.A.: Taxed Enough Already", "Born Free; Taxed to Death!!", "Please don't redistribute my video games" (from a cute little kid); "You Can't Blame Bush, Anymore!"; "Stop the Pork; So We Can Bring Home the Bacon"......
Those are some of the more memorable ones, along with one I almost forgot: "I'll keep my guns, religion, money, and freedom; you can keep your 'change'!"
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I liked the one
"I am not your ATM"
"Barack on 08 . . . Broke in 09'"
"Im 11 y/o and already $75,000 in debt"
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I liked the one
"I am not your ATM"
"Barack on 08 . . . Broke in 09'"
"Im 11 y/o and already $75,000 in debt"
That reminds me of another one, "DEBT you can believe in!!!"
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Where were you when bush was running up massive debts? I never heard one of you bitch...
Obama running up debt? Sure he is... atleast we are getting something from it, upgrading the electrical grid, updating technology thats been ignored since clinton left. In the long run, il guarantee you he balances the budget...
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Where were you when bush was running up massive debts? I never heard one of you bitch...
Obama running up debt? Sure he is... atleast we are getting something from it, upgrading the electrical grid, updating technology thats been ignored since clinton left. In the long run, il guarantee you he balances the budget...
agreed!!!!!
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agreed!!!!!
Thats funny because his budgets have massive debts as far as the eye can see.
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The point to this would be......
Again, it's hardly different than all the blubbering the Dems were doing in '05 after Bush's re-election. The far-left were yakking about separating and forming their own party, too. Thanks to Loco, I got a reminder of the new-found "ailments" that hit liberals after Kerry's loss.
As stated earlier, apparently, you have a case of political amnesia.
Not even close... The difference is... The GOP is not moving forward with times like the Democrats have... Obamas campaign hammered McCain with his own words and facts... The GOP tried to tie him in with bin Laden and a insane amount of desperation tactics that in 1960 would work, but in 2009 when people can research the FACTS, it was pointless... The gop has alienated Blacks, Latins, Arab Americans worse now than ever with their Racist Campaigns and smear tactics to get white people upset over obama in his campaign... By 2012 Hispanics and Blacks will a HUGE force for the Democrats and more and more people are leaving the GOP with their "Dinosaur politics Il predict now Obama will take over 60% of the vote in the next election...
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Not even close... The difference is... The GOP is not moving forward with times like the Democrats have... Obamas campaign hammered McCain with his own words and facts... The GOP tried to tie him in with bin Laden and a insane amount of desperation tactics that in 1960 would work, but in 2009 when people can research the FACTS, it was pointless... The gop has alienated Blacks, Latins, Arab Americans worse now than ever with their Racist Campaigns and smear tactics to get white people upset over obama in his campaign... By 2012 Hispanics and Blacks will a HUGE force for the Democrats and more and more people are leaving the GOP with their "Dinosaur politics Il predict now Obama will take over 60% of the vote in the next election...
How were the Dems "moving forward" after their loss in 2005?
You make absolutely no sense. "In 2009, when people can research FACTS....."? As if people couldn't do that in 2002, 2003, or 2004. ::)
The GOP has alienated Blacks? I'm sorry! Though marginal didn't Bush increased the percentage of Black voters who elected him from 9% to 11%? Didn't he also have a significant spike in Latino voters as well (to the tune of about 40%)?
When are you going to get it through your skull that Obama's skin color has nothing to do with the issues that some people have with him? He wanted people to judge him on his actions. Guess what, Busted!!! THEY ARE. Yet, you have fallen for the tired liberal flap that any criticism of Obama's policy are "racist", which is utter garbage.
Again, political fortunes can swing on a dime. All the mess you're saying about the demise of the GOP was said by some GOP supporters about the Democrats just four years ago. So, again, keep foolishly thinking that the Dems have a stranglehold on Washington. One election can rip the power right out of their hands.
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How were the Dems "moving forward" after their loss in 2005?
You make absolutely no sense. "In 2009, when people can research FACTS....."? As if people couldn't do that in 2002, 2003, or 2004. ::)
The GOP has alienated Blacks? I'm sorry! Though marginal didn't Bush increased the percentage of Black voters who elected him from 9% to 11%? Didn't he also have a significant spike in Latino voters as well (to the tune of about 40%)?
When are you going to get it through your skull that Obama's skin color has nothing to do with the issues that some people have with him? He wanted people to judge him on his actions. Guess what, Busted!!! THEY ARE. Yet, you have fallen for the tired liberal flap that any criticism of Obama's policy are "racist", which is utter garbage.
Again, political fortunes can swing on a dime. All the mess you're saying about the demise of the GOP was said by some GOP supporters about the Democrats just four years ago. So, again, keep foolishly thinking that the Dems have a stranglehold on Washington. One election can rip the power right out of their hands.
If people were judging based on actions, then they would wait until the outcome of those actions had occurred... Yet they are not.
They want the economy to improve, but yet they are not willing to see if actually does.
That doesn't sounds like a good model.
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If people were judging based on actions, then they would wait until the outcome of those actions had occurred... Yet they are not.
They want the economy to improve, but yet they are not willing to see if actually does.
That doesn't sounds like a good model.
Point made. But, some of the moves being made don't point to an improving economy.
And, therein lies my point that Busted can't quite grasp. He's under the warped impression that the Democrats pretty much have Washington locked up, Obama's re-election is a mere formality, and the GOP is finished for good.
I've simply pointed out that such is not the case. And, I used a prime example what took place just a few years ago.
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Point made. But, some of the moves being made don't point to an improving economy.
And, therein lies my point that Busted can't quite grasp. He's under the warped impression that the Democrats pretty much have Washington locked up, Obama's re-election is a mere formality, and the GOP is finished for good.
I've simply pointed out that such is not the case. And, I used a prime example what took place just a few years ago.
I think the G.O.P. in it's current incarnation is done... The Evangelical right-wing Neo-Conservative can not run the party anymore like they have for the past 12 years or so... I think that if the G.O.P. wants to get back to their old ways, and be truly fiscally conservative and be about small government, then they can make a return to power... That's when I agreed with them.
When they started turning it into the "party of God" so to speak... That's when they lost me.
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I think the G.O.P. in it's current incarnation is done... The Evangelical right-wing Neo-Conservative can not run the party anymore like they have for the past 12 years or so... I think that if the G.O.P. wants to get back to their old ways, and be truly fiscally conservative and be about small government, then they can make a return to power... That's when I agreed with them.
When they started turning it into the "party of God" so to speak... That's when they lost me.
Actually, the GOP needs to do BOTH!!!
As I've stated beforehand, the GOP CANNOT win, without the evangelical base behind them. That, plus the return to fiscally conservative roots, will get the job done.
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Thats funny because his budgets have massive debts as far as the eye can see.
so did Bush's
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so did Bush's
If your best defense of Obama is that he is doing the same thing as GWB, fine, but you do realize how pathetic that is at this point only 100 days into this right????
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If your best defense of Obama is that he is doing the same thing as GWB, fine, but you do realize how pathetic that is at this point only 100 days into this right????
There is a difference... Bush ran up debts and what was to show for it??? Im still waiting...
Obamas plans are "INVESTMENTS" Do I need to paint a picture for you in 3rd grade terms comparing the 2?
Bush Plan = Renting a House and investing money in your neighbors house (money going overseas)
Obamas plans = Remodeling the house you own so its up to 2009 technological standards. Is it debt? YES, but what happens when we start selling the technology to other countries?
What do you do for a living Mr. 6400/week paycheck?
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There is a difference... Bush ran up debts and what was to show for it??? Im still waiting...
Obamas plans are "INVESTMENTS" Do I need to paint a picture for you in 3rd grade terms comparing the 2?
Bush Plan = Renting a House and investing money in your neighbors house (money going overseas)
Obamas plans = Remodeling the house you own so its up to 2009 technological standards. Is it debt? YES, but what happens when we start selling the technology to other countries?
What do you do for a living Mr. 6400/week paycheck?
Next week will be $16,000, buddy. I do debt collection, liens, judgments, bond claims. etc. I just got an order for 80 liens from one client for next week.