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I guess its ok for blacks to rip young girls on the radio,but when it comes to whites like Don Imus then its a national story and outrage.Where are you fat ass Al?
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Newsflash.....Nobody likes the religious nut and nobody wants to be associated with him. :)
He fits nicely in with the religious right more so than any group.
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when Obama was elected president, Al lost much of the steam in his bitching machine
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Newsflash.....Nobody likes the religious nut and nobody wants to be associated with him. :)
He fits nicely in with the religious right more so than any group.
Newsflash,how about any of the other idiot blacks that demaded Imus be fired.Any of them doing the same for Fox?Any national debate?Any MSNBC news stories screaming Fox is a racist?No,of cource not.Only Whites are offensive and held to a standard.Blacks can say anything they want and get away with it.
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I guess its ok for blacks to rip young girls on the radio,but when it comes to whites like Don Imus then its a national story and outrage.Where are you fat ass Al?
that was on the radio? :-\ Are blacks exempt from FCC fines or what?
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Newsflash,how about any of the other idiot blacks that demaded Imus be fired.Any of them doing the same for Fox?Any national debate?Any MSNBC news stories screaming Fox is a racist?No,of cource not.Only Whites are offensive and held to a standard.Blacks can say anything they want and get away with it.
Its probably more to the fact that people actually listened to Imus whereas nobody listens to Sharpton.
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that was on the radio? :-\ Are blacks exempt from FCC fines or what?
I don`t think Sirius Satellite Radio is censored by the FCC.
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I don`t think Sirius Satellite Radio is censored by the FCC.
apparently not lol.
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Newsflash.....Nobody likes the religious nut and nobody wants to be associated with him. :)
He fits nicely in with the religious right more so than any group.
Exactly... Sharpton is a fuckin Moron...
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No one cares about Sharpton? O Rly? Is this the same Sharpton who shared a national stage during the Democrat primary debates?
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No one cares about Sharpton? O Rly? Is this the same Sharpton who shared a national stage during the Democrat primary debates?
sorry, he's about as popular as Nancy Pelosi.
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No one cares about Sharpton? O Rly? Is this the same Sharpton who shared a national stage during the Democrat primary debates?
The only people who care about Sharpton or Jackson are the black people who are very old and actually remember being oppressed... No one under the age of 70 thinks twice about either one of them and everyone knows that including either one of them in your entourage or giving them a voice in your policies is political suicide.
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sorry, he's about as popular as Nancy Pelosi.
You mean third in line to be president Pelosi?
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The only people who care about Sharpton or Jackson are the black people who are very old and actually remember being oppressed... No one under the age of 70 thinks twice about either one of them and everyone knows that including either one of them in your entourage or giving them a voice in your policies is political suicide.
Then why was he included in the national Democrat primary debates?
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Then why was he included in the national Democrat primary debates?
He was running for office and is a card carrying democrat, it is his legal right to be included.
You think they should deny him is rights?
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He was running for office and is a card carrying democrat, it is his legal right to be included.
You think they should deny him is rights?
Really? What specific "legal right" are you talking about that requires he be included in national debates?
Who said he should be denied rights? I was responding to the contention that no one cares about Sharpton. Pretty funny that he was all over the national stage if no one cared about him.
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You mean third in line to be president Pelosi?
yea, now you see my point. Look how unpopular that bitch is across the coutry, yet there she is, not going anywhere...
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Really? What specific "legal right" are you talking about that requires he be included in national debates?
Who said he should be denied rights? I was responding to the contention that no one cares about Sharpton. Pretty funny that he was all over the national stage if no one cared about him.
What year was he in the debate Beach?
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What year was he in the debate Beach?
2004:
(http://www.lisarein.com/sharpton-6-22-03-fcc.jpg)
Not sure if he was on the stage in 07 or 08.
What "legal right" are you talking about that requires he be included in national debates?
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2004:
(http://www.lisarein.com/sharpton-6-22-03-fcc.jpg)
Not sure if he was on the stage in 07 or 08.
What "legal right" are you talking about that requires he be included in national debates?
If you are a card carrying democrat and you get enough sponsorship from constituents... you're allowed to debate.
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Really? What specific "legal right" are you talking about that requires he be included in national debates?
Who said he should be denied rights? I was responding to the contention that no one cares about Sharpton. Pretty funny that he was all over the national stage if no one cared about him.
FYI the television networks decide who they are going to put on television and set the standards and requirements if they are to be shut out or not. They usually put a wildcard in on both parties. Alan Keyes has been the Republican wildcard a few times along with Frederick Thompson. :)
It is sad though how television networks have so much pull...
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If you are a card carrying democrat and you get enough sponsorship from constituents... you're allowed to debate.
What law are you talking about?
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FYI the television networks decide who they are going to put on television and set the standards and requirements if they are to be shut out or not. They usually put a wildcard in on both parties. Alan Keyes has been the Republican wildcard a few times along with Frederick Thompson. :)
It is sad though how television networks have so much pull...
True. You better explain that to tu. :)
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Beach, you just shit on your own argument with your argument. First, anybody can run, it doesn't mean they're popular. If he's so popular like you say, why did he only get 27?
Here's the primary delegate breakdown for 04
2162 John Kerry
534 John Edwards
170 Howard Dean
57 Wesley Clark
27 Al Sharpton
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What law are you talking about?
Legal was a poor choice of words Beach... It's simply his right as a member of the party because of the party by-laws.
Is that ok for you? Or do you want to continue to mention how I made a mistake?
See, I can admit them, you'd just be running away right now.
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Beach, you just shit on your own argument with your argument. First, anybody can run, it doesn't mean they're popular. If he's so popular like you say, why did he only get 27?
Here's the primary delegate breakdown for 04
2162 John Kerry
534 John Edwards
170 Howard Dean
57 Wesley Clark
27 Al Sharpton
What? The networks decide who debates. They make that decision in large part on who they think the people want to see. Apparently a lot of people wanted to see that pimp Al Sharpton, which is why they included him. That hardly makes him someone no one cares about.
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True. You better explain that to tu. :)
I think he did... What did you explain?
Nothing... You just kept on saying nothing.
That's why I appreciate Adonis, because he actually does SAY something...
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Legal was a poor choice of words Beach... It's simply his right as a member of the party because of the party by-laws.
Is that ok for you? Or do you want to continue to mention how I made a mistake?
See, I can admit them, you'd just be running away right now.
I didn't say you made a mistake. You mentioned a law and I asking what law you were talking about. If you just made that up, then that's fine. Good that you admitted it.
What "by-laws" are you talking about?
And I wouldn't be running away from anything, because I don't just make stuff up as I go along, as you appear to be doing. But I could be wrong.
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What? The networks decide who debates. They make that decision in large part on who they think the people want to see. Apparently a lot of people wanted to see that pimp Al Sharpton, which is why they included him. That hardly makes him someone no one cares about.
So you're telling me that even though the networks hooked him up and he had a voice right along with the rest of the candidates he still only got 27 delegates? This makes your case of him being popular, how? lol...
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I didn't say you made a mistake. You mentioned a law and I asking what law you were talking about. If you just made that up, then that's fine. Good that you admitted it.
What "by-laws" are you talking about?
And I wouldn't be running away from anything, because I don't just make stuff up as I go along, as you appear to be doing. But I could be wrong.
You're wrong a lot... I read an article and misinterpreted it... That's all.
See... a mistake.
You type a lot, but you continue to say very little and you don't really educate... you just like to act like you know more than others... Sad really.
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So you're telling me that even though the networks hooked him up and he had a voice right along with the rest of the candidates he still only got 27 delegates? This makes your case of him being popular, how? lol...
As I said in my first post in this thread, I'm telling you that anyone saying "no one cares" about Sharpton is simply wrong.
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You're wrong a lot... I read an article and misinterpreted it... That's all.
See... a mistake.
You type a lot, but you continue to say very little and you don't really educate... you just like to act like you know more than others... Sad really.
lol. This is really comical. :)
What article did you read? Link? I'll read it.
And what by-laws are you talking about now?
Dude, as I've probably said on this board (or if not I'll say it now), I know a lot about a few things, and nothing about a lot of things. I'm just an average Joe and an information junkie.
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lol. This is really comical. :)
What article did you read? Link? I'll read it.
And what by-laws are you talking about now?
Dude, as I've probably said on this board (or if not I'll say it now), I know a lot about a few things, and nothing about a lot of things. I'm just an average Joe and an information junkie.
I was reading a wiki article which discussed the number of total delegates to get the party nomination and read it wrong... That's all.
My misinterpretation is comical?
Beach, come on dude... 1/2 the crap you post is so right wing it's comical as hell, but we don't sit and laugh at you.
I guess we can now.
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As I said in my first post in this thread, I'm telling you that anyone saying "no one cares" about Sharpton is simply wrong.
well relatively, that's true, nobody cares about Al Sharpton. Of course some people do. He probably has as many die hard followers in America that Hugo Chavez has but I'm comfortable with saying that here in America, nobody cares about Hugo Chavez and that would be true for the most part. You can't say that about anybody and have it be 100% true. It's a general comment and in general, it's true. By far the biggest opinion I hear of Al and Jesse is that they make their living on keeping hate alive. That's not a very popular comment on these guys and I hear it all the time.
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I was reading a wiki article which discussed the number of total delegates to get the party nomination and read it wrong... That's all.
My misinterpretation is comical?
Beach, come on dude... 1/2 the crap you post is so right wing it's comical as hell, but we don't sit and laugh at you.
I guess we can now.
What by-laws were you referring to?
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What by-laws were you referring to?
Like I said... a mistake.
Why didn't you explain it to me and educate me?
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well relatively, that's true, nobody cares about Al Sharpton. Of course some people do. He probably has as many die hard followers in America that Hugo Chavez has but I'm comfortable with saying that here in America, nobody cares about Hugo Chavez and that would be true for the most part. You can't say that about anybody and have it be 100% true. It's a general comment and in general, it's true. By far the biggest opinion I hear of Al and Jesse is that they make their living on keeping hate alive. That's not a very popular comment on these guys and I hear it all the time.
I agree with most of this, but Sharpton is all over the place: CNN, C-SPAN, etc.
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I agree with most of this, but Sharpton is all over the place: CNN, C-SPAN, etc.
He likes to hear himself talk and has history due to the civil rights movement... That's all there is to it.
Besides, if you don't have him on, he'll just call you a racist and you (as a network) don't need the hassle.
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Like I said... a mistake.
Why didn't you explain it to me and educate me?
Actually, you admitted saying he had a "legal right" was a mistake. Then you said this:
Legal was a poor choice of words Beach... It's simply his right as a member of the party because of the party by-laws.
Is that ok for you? Or do you want to continue to mention how I made a mistake?
See, I can admit them, you'd just be running away right now.
So are you saying that you also invented the "by-laws" part too? I'm actually interested in reading them, assuming you didn't just make it up.
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Actually, you admitted saying he had a "legal right" was a mistake. Then you said this:
So are you saying that you also invented the "by-laws" part too? I'm actually interested in reading them, assuming you didn't just make it up.
They are on the parties web site.
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I agree with most of this, but Sharpton is all over the place: CNN, C-SPAN, etc.
He's an activist. That's what they try to do, publicize their opinion. Just because the media gives the guy a regular voice does not translate to high popularity. Jesse and Al are believed to be sort of the best representing voices for the black community. I keep hearing blacks who say that's bullshit but that's where they've inserted themselves and they are the media goto for opinions on the black community. I'm not sure that means these guys are popular. With Al's primary results, it means more blacks voted for a white guy than him...
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Actually, you admitted saying he had a "legal right" was a mistake. Then you said this:
So are you saying that you also invented the "by-laws" part too? I'm actually interested in reading them, assuming you didn't just make it up.
Everyone has a legal right to run for President if they meet the age requirement and are natural born.
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Al Sharpton is about as obsolete as the name "Al" and his "conk".
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They are on the parties web site.
Where? Here is the website: http://www.democrats.org/ Where did you find the "by-laws" that guarantee any presidential candidate participation in a Democrat primary debate?
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Everyone has a legal right to run for President if they meet the age requirement and are natural born.
O.K. True, but that wasn't what tu said. He's trying to say all Democrat candidates for president have some sort of right to participate in debates. Not sure if that's just his opinion or he's relying on some rule, law, etc. That's what I've been asking him to clarify.
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Al Sharpton is about as obsolete as the name "Al" and his "conk".
You talking about this guy?
Al Sharpton calls for Arizona sheriff to step down
Tue Apr 7, 2009 3:25pm EDT
NEW YORK (Reuters) - U.S. civil rights activist Al Sharpton weighed into a fight over an Arizona sheriff's immigration sweeps on Tuesday, accusing him of racially profiling Hispanics and urging him to step down.
Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio has dispatched deputies into Hispanic communities in the Phoenix area, where they stop people and arrest anyone who cannot prove he or she is a legal U.S. resident.
Under a deal allowing them to enforce federal immigration laws, the deputies have arrested more than 1,500 people who they determined were in Arizona illegally, triggering street protests and condemnation from Latino activists who accuse him of racial profiling.
"I am first calling for the resignation and or removal of Sheriff Arpaio ... harassment based on color is nothing short of racial profiling, which many of us ... helped to fight to make against the law," Sharpton told reporters.
U.S. Department of Justice officials recently launched an inquiry into Arpaio's activities. The U.S. House Judiciary Committee also held hearings last week about the federal program that allows for such enforcement tactics.
"Arpaio needs to be confronted, he needs to be removed. ... We also need to suspend the law that he is using. We must stand with our brown brothers and sisters," Sharpton said.
Sharpton said he would travel to Arizona to make his case.
Arpaio, who has held the job since 1992, called charges he carries out racial profiling of Hispanics ridiculous.
"I'm never going to resign," he said. "The guy is living in a fantasy land if he thinks he is going to pressure me into anything. He doesn't even know where Arizona is."
http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSTRE5365XO20090407
It's really a shame that the Democrat party legitimized this pimp.
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O.K. True, but that wasn't what tu said. He's trying to say all Democrat candidates for president have some sort of right to participate in debates. Not sure if that's just his opinion or he's relying on some rule, law, etc. That's what I've been asking him to clarify.
The by-laws state they have to be a card carrying democrat to run for nomination for the party... That is my point.
As Adonis educated me... Apparently the media determines who can be in the debates, and for that I thank him.
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The by-laws state they have to be a card carrying democrat to run for nomination for the party... That is my point.
As Adonis educated me... Apparently the media determines who can be in the debates, and for that I thank him.
I see. So there are no by-laws that guarantee a candidate a spot in presidential debates. You made that up too. Got it.
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I see. So there are no by-laws that guarantee a candidate a spot in presidential debates. You made that up too. Got it.
Oh Beach... Are upset that Politics is all about made up stuff?
You know... Wars for freedom and what not?
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Oh Beach... Are upset that Politics is all about made up stuff?
You know... Wars for freedom and what not?
Nah. I just realized that you invented facts twice in this thread. But at least you manned up and admitted it.
And just so you know, I don't ask set-up questions. If I'm asking your for a source/information, it's because I don't know the answer.
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Nah. I just realized that you invented facts twice in this thread. But at least you manned up and admitted it.
And just so you know, I don't ask set-up questions. If I'm asking your for a source/information, it's because I don't know the answer.
Oh, I don't really care... The thread is about Al Sharpton and the fact that is pertinent is that he really is a never was when it comes to politics.
People make shit up on this board non-stop... Mostly because of opinion which is what politics is all about.
Everyone likes to believe they are right... It's the way of the beast.
It very well may be a rule that's just not easy to find... I actually spent a lot of time trying to find how the Democratic party actually does determine who is on the ballots on the individual primaries and found nothing... Same with the Republicans... Since I couldn't find it... I said fuck it.
I'm impressed and a bit disturbed you looked at all of the by-laws... I looked at them individually and found them to be very vague in general, which is a bit shocking and unnerving too.
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BB, was holmes commenting based on an assumption he had or just making shit up. There is a difference and he doesn't strike me as one to intentionally lie here. I'm not sure the way you phrase it is quite fair. We all probably say things under the assumption it's true and get corrected one time or another. That is not in the same ballpark as knowing it's false and bullshitting.
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Oh, I don't really care... The thread is about Al Sharpton and the fact that is pertinent is that he really is a never was when it comes to politics.
People make shit up on this board non-stop... Mostly because of opinion which is what politics is all about.
Everyone likes to believe they are right... It's the way of the beast.
It very well may be a rule that's just not easy to find... I actually spent a lot of time trying to find how the Democratic party actually does determine who is on the ballots on the individual primaries and found nothing... Same with the Republicans... Since I couldn't find it... I said fuck it.
I'm impressed and a bit disturbed you looked at all of the by-laws... I looked at them individually and found them to be very vague in general, which is a bit shocking and unnerving too.
People constantly make stuff on the board. And some take it way too seriously.
I didn't look at all the by-laws. In fact, I didn't see them at all.
But regarding Sharpton, he's not going away. Democrats, with the media's help, made him relevant. He's all over the place. Democrats need to stop including him serious political discussions and the media needs to stop putting a microphone in his face.
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BB, was holmes commenting based on an assumption he had or just making shit up. There is a difference and he doesn't strike me as one to intentionally lie here. I'm not sure the way you phrase it is quite fair. We all probably say things under the assumption it's true and get corrected one time or another. That is not in the same ballpark as knowing it's false and bullshitting.
Of course I made an assumption... but that's my mistake... I have been educated.
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this is from the democratic party website if anybody wanted to read them.
DNC Charter and Bylaws
http://s3.amazonaws.com/apache.3cdn.net/58e635582dc516dd52_5wsmvyn09.pdf
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BB, was holmes commenting based on an assumption he had or just making shit up. There is a difference and he doesn't strike me as one to intentionally lie here. I'm not sure the way you phrase it is quite fair. We all probably say things under the assumption it's true and get corrected one time or another. That is not in the same ballpark as knowing it's false and bullshitting.
It wasn't phrased as an assumption, but it's water over the bridge. :) I don't intend to bring it up again.
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Of course I made an assumption... but that's my mistake... I have been educated.
yea, BB was basically saying you made it up, like intentionally lied. I kinda thought that was a bit presumptuous and unfair.
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this is from the democratic party website if anybody wanted to read them.
DNC Charter and Bylaws
http://s3.amazonaws.com/apache.3cdn.net/58e635582dc516dd52_5wsmvyn09.pdf
Thanks. A little long, particularly for someone with internet ADD. :)
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It wasn't phrased as an assumption, but it's water over the bridge. :) I don't intend to bring it up again.
oh PULEASE ::) He could have easily been opperating under the assumption it was true. When you think something is true you post on it as such. We don't all go around typing, "I assume" before everything we type that we think is true. ::) Give me a fucking break, now you're bullshitting.
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Thanks. A little long, particularly for someone with internet ADD. :)
Yeah... I read through most of it... It's pretty vague.
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oh PULEASE ::) He could have easily been opperating under the assumption it was true. When you think something is true you post on it as such. We don't all go around typing, "I assume" before everything we type that we think is true. ::) Give me a fucking break, now you're bullshitting.
Whatever. You're a little late to the party. I have no problem with what I said. It's over.
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Whatever. You're a little late to the party. I have no problem with what I said. It's over.
yea, because all this went down days ago ::)
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I guess its ok for blacks to rip young girls on the radio,but when it comes to whites like Don Imus then its a national story and outrage.Where are you fat ass Al?
Where Fat Ass Al Sharpton is?
Isn't he and Newt Gingrich getting it on these days?
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FEDS HIT REV. AL WITH RECORD 285G ELEX FINE
The Rev. Al Sharpton and his National Action Network have been slapped with a record $285,000 fine for violating a slew of federal election rules during his 2004 bid for president, the Post has learned.
In a decision to be made public next month, the Federal Election Commission found that Sharpton's Democratic primary campaign accepted hundreds of thousands of dollars in contributions from private sources.
It also "kept poor records of its activities and expenditures" and commingled funds with Sharpton's civil-rights group. All are prohibited under the Federal Election Campaign Act.
Earlier this month, Sharpton and former campaign manager Andrew Rivera signed an agreement with the FEC to pay the fine -- among the highest in the regulatory body's 34-year history.
"Sharpton 2004 materially misstated its receipts and disbursements, as well as cash on hand in 2004," says the April 8 FEC report, which followed an investigation of the Sharpton campaign's expenses.
The review followed a 2004 complaint to the FEC from the National Legal and Policy Center, a Virginia-based watchdog group.
"We are pleased that the FEC has ruled on our complaint and found that Sharpton ran an off-the-books presidential campaign," said the center's chairman, Ken Boehm.
At one point, Sharpton racked up $509,188 in campaign expenses on his American Express card. His campaign committee paid $121,996, according to the FEC, but the bulk was paid by the National Action Network and two private corporations controlled by Sharpton. A further $65,000 was paid by unknown sources, the FEC investigation found.
Sharpton also received "excessive in-kind contributions" from La-Van Hawkins, a wealthy supporter and principal of the now-defunct Hawkins Food Group.
Hawkins hosted a posh 2003 fund-raising dinner for Sharpton at his home in Atlanta and flew him to the event on his company jet. The total cost of the flight and the fundraiser -- which featured Cristal champagne at $200 a bottle and fresh crab cakes and beef tenderloin for 60 guests -- was estimated at more than $12,000, but was not reported by the Sharpton campaign.
The FEC requires the disclosure of all in-kind contributions over $1,000.
In June 2005, Hawkins was convicted of perjury and wire-fraud charges stemming from a corruption scheme involving the payment of bribes to the Philadelphia city treasurer in exchange for city contracts.
The FEC also noted that political consultant Roger Stone loaned more than $200,000 to the National Action Network in the run-up to the political campaign in order to pay for Sharpton's campaign expenses. However, Stone denied the allegations, and the FEC took no action against him.
"Rev Sharpton is gratified that after full review of the record, the FEC significantly reduced the original fine and stated in the agreement that there was no evidence of intentional wrongdoing by National Action Network or the campaign," said Rachel Noerdlinger, a Sharpton spokeswoman.
According to an earlier audit, Sharpton was to pay a $500,000 penalty.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/04192009/news/regionalnews/feds_hit_rev__al_with_record_285g_elex_f_165134.htm
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Yeah,no one cares about Sharpton.EVERYTIME their is a racial story the media puts him on the air.HE WAS THE DRIVING force in the Imus case.By the way,he got more votes and Id bet more delegates in his run then Joe Biden got in his run this year.
The point is,when Imus said his thing about "NAPPY HEADED HOs" it was a story for months on MSNBS and the other lib networks.Where are they when Jaime Fox says MUCH worse?Where are the protests,the marches,the demands that he be fired?Nothing.As usual.Whites are held to one standard,blacks to another.
Libs ALWAYS do the same thing.When a lib shoots his stupid mouth off,the other libs jump in and minimize the guy.When Joe Biden makes one of his many assanine statements its always "thats just Joe".When Sharpton embarasses the party they say "hes just a nut".However,if RUSH says ANYTHING bad the libs say "he represents ALL republicans".If Palin says something idiotis its "you see how dumb republicans are"..Incredible group of double talkers.
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Yeah,no one cares about Sharpton.EVERYTIME their is a racial story the media puts him on the air.HE WAS THE DRIVING force in the Imus case.By the way,he got more votes and Id bet more delegates in his run then Joe Biden got in his run this year.
The point is,when Imus said his thing about "NAPPY HEADED HOs" it was a story for months on MSNBS and the other lib networks.Where are they when Jaime Fox says MUCH worse?Where are the protests,the marches,the demands that he be fired?Nothing.As usual.Whites are held to one standard,blacks to another.
Libs ALWAYS do the same thing.When a lib shoots his stupid mouth off,the other libs jump in and minimize the guy.When Joe Biden makes one of his many assanine statements its always "thats just Joe".When Sharpton embarasses the party they say "hes just a nut".However,if RUSH says ANYTHING bad the libs say "he represents ALL republicans".If Palin says something idiotis its "you see how dumb republicans are"..Incredible group of double talkers.
What else would you expect from a group that critisizes harsh interrogation of brutal terrorists, encourages illegal immigration and full benefits for them, wants reduced prison sentences for violent gang members and somehow blames their behavior on society, and want to support ghetto teens spawning mutiple future inmates with your tax dollars?