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Title: need to cut but how much?
Post by: enerlevel on April 19, 2009, 05:05:42 AM
i have been exercising since about 4 years (on and off....) but been 2 years since i have been regular. my weight right now is about 80kgs. thats about 170lbs. i am 5.9".now i am thinking to cut down to get in shape.... about how much would i need to cut down to start getting abs?. i dont need any contest shape (nor can i be there :P- horrible shape i know :P) ... i just need to get my mid section clear with cutting.... thanks.
any opinion on how much weight to lose? cardio sections? abs exercise? (never done abs exercise ever b4)

Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: Deicide on April 19, 2009, 05:07:10 AM
i have been exercising since about 4 years (on and off....) but been 2 years since i have been regular. my weight right now is about 80kgs. thats about 170lbs. i am 5.9".now i am thinking to cut down to get in shape.... about how much would i need to cut down to start getting abs?. i dont need any contest shape (nor can i be there :P- horrible shape i know :P) ... i just need to get my mid section clear with cutting.... thanks.
any opinion on how much weight to lose? cardio sections? abs exercise? (never done abs exercise ever b4)



You should have posted this on the positive board... :-\

Good luck...
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: wild willie on April 19, 2009, 05:08:01 AM
looking pretty tight bro.....not much to lose. I am guessing 10-15 pounds and you are right there. Are you going to do a show or just trying to look good for the summer months?
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: enerlevel on April 19, 2009, 05:09:20 AM
just a decent body .. no contest....
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: Saxon on April 19, 2009, 05:12:18 AM
nice room :)
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on April 19, 2009, 05:12:47 AM
if you lost 7-8 kilos of fats you would achieve the look you want and better..

run (treadmill or outside) 2-3 times a week, each of 30 minutes minimum..

train your abs once or twice a week..

good luck you already look good  8)..
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: io856 on April 19, 2009, 05:14:00 AM
epic shithole surroundings

You shouldn't be worrying about "cutting"
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: Method101 on April 19, 2009, 05:17:49 AM
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: gh15 on April 19, 2009, 05:18:20 AM
i have been exercising since about 4 years (on and off....) but been 2 years since i have been regular. my weight right now is about 80kgs. thats about 170lbs. i am 5.9".now i am thinking to cut down to get in shape.... about how much would i need to cut down to start getting abs?. i dont need any contest shape (nor can i be there :P- horrible shape i know :P) ... i just need to get my mid section clear with cutting.... thanks.
any opinion on how much weight to lose? cardio sections? abs exercise? (never done abs exercise ever b4)



consider yourself the luckiest fella on getbig since i got 10s of questions like this a day into mail and i dont even look at them but! im on this thread and will answer

you are at 13-15% body fat %  your abs are already have an outline but you want the girls to see 6 pack ,,usually it  start hapening at 8-10% depending on how much water you hold ,,

inorder to be at 10% youll have to lose 15-20 lb

inorder to get down to a take a second look at the beach kind of physiqe which start at under 8% at your size (its only 80 kg) you will have to lose 40 pounds

if you desire to step on stage you will have to lose 50 lb and compete at ~60kg

add hormones,,you lack size ,,at your level we add size via hormones and only then cut down

ignore all other posts on this thread youre a liucky fella that i seen this

gh15 approved

Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on April 19, 2009, 05:18:56 AM
i have been exercising since about 4 years (on and off....) but been 2 years since i have been regular. my weight right now is about 80kgs. thats about 170lbs. i am 5.9".now i am thinking to cut down to get in shape.... about how much would i need to cut down to start getting abs?. i dont need any contest shape (nor can i be there :P- horrible shape i know :P) ... i just need to get my mid section clear with cutting.... thanks.
any opinion on how much weight to lose? cardio sections? abs exercise? (never done abs exercise ever b4)



i believe you are asian right? ;D
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: enerlevel on April 19, 2009, 05:23:35 AM
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consider yourself the luckiest fella on getbig since i got 10s of questions like this a day into mail and i dont even look at them but! im on this thread and will answer

you are at 13-15% body fat %  your abs are already have an outline but you want the girls to see 6 pack ,,usually it  start hapening at 8-10% depending on how much water you hold ,,

inorder to be at 10% youll have to lose 15-20 lb

inorder to get down to a take a second look at the beach kind of physiqe which start at under 8% at your size (its only 80 kg) you will have to lose 40 pounds

if you desire to step on stage you will have to lose 50 lb and compete at ~60kg

add hormones,,you lack size ,,at your level we add size via hormones and only then cut down

ignore all other posts on this thread youre a liucky fella that i seen this

gh15 approved



thanks for your time. i think i hold alot of water since there isnt alot of visible veins on me......... ok so i need to cut down about 15lbs? tht will bring me down to about 70kg.... humm . i dont really need to compete . just abs to show without loosing alot of my size.....
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: gh15 on April 19, 2009, 05:28:13 AM


thanks for your time. i think i hold alot of water since there isnt alot of visible veins on me......... ok so i need to cut down about 15lbs? tht will bring me down to about 70kg.... humm . i dont really need to compete . just abs to show without loosing alot of my size.....

for abdominals to show like you want you can get down to 10% and get yoru sodium intake under control ,,it should put you at the look you want it wont be cut to the bone abs with tunnels but it will be good enough for local hoes and guys to think youre ripped,,most people start calling lifters ripped when they touch 10% can even be 12-13% if the lifter is at 100kg or more,,so either get bigger and then your body fat right now will be enough to call you ripped in the public eye or...lose some weight

you need to lose about 10 kg for what you want
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: ironneck on April 19, 2009, 05:31:16 AM
for fucks sake clean up your room you filthy bastard
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: enerlevel on April 19, 2009, 05:31:25 AM
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for abdominals to show like you want you can get down to 10% and get yoru sodium intake under control ,,it should put you at the look you want it wont be cut to the bone abs with tunnels but it will be good enough for local hoes and guys to think youre ripped,,most people start calling lifters ripped when they touch 10% can even be 12-13% if the lifter is at 100kg or more,,

you need to lose about 10 kg for what you want


ok so do u recommend 3 times a week 30 mins of light jogging.... with 3 times a week abs exercise... plus dieting ?  i need to get inshape in about 1-2 months...... (that is if its possible considering my shape LOL :P and most of all , if its healthy)
also taking creatine will help me look sharper?
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on April 19, 2009, 05:32:57 AM
consider yourself the luckiest fella on getbig since i got 10s of questions like this a day into mail and i dont even look at them but! im on this thread and will answer

you are at 13-15% body fat %  your abs are already have an outline but you want the girls to see 6 pack ,,usually it  start hapening at 8-10% depending on how much water you hold ,,

inorder to be at 10% youll have to lose 15-20 lb

inorder to get down to a take a second look at the beach kind of physiqe which start at under 8% at your size (its only 80 kg) you will have to lose 40 pounds

if you desire to step on stage you will have to lose 50 lb and compete at ~60kg

add hormones,,you lack size ,,at your level we add size via hormones and only then cut down

ignore all other posts on this thread youre a liucky fella that i seen this

gh15 approved



why should he ignore the other posts, i asked him to lose 7-8 kg so i was not so far  ;D
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: ironneck on April 19, 2009, 05:34:58 AM

ok so do u recommend 3 times a week 30 mins of light jogging.... with 3 times a week abs exercise... plus dieting ?  i need to get inshape in about 1-2 months...... (that is if its possible considering my shape LOL :P and most of all , if its healthy)
also taking creatine will help me look sharper?



very possible
1-2kg per week should be possible
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: gh15 on April 19, 2009, 05:35:40 AM

ok so do u recommend 3 times a week 30 mins of light jogging.... with 3 times a week abs exercise... plus dieting ?  i need to get inshape in about 1-2 months...... (that is if its possible considering my shape LOL :P and most of all , if its healthy)
also taking creatine will help me look sharper?

no creatine its garbage! no creatine what so ever thats why you cant see yoru abs better right now because of that creatine ,,only thing you get out of creatine is kidny failure,,

the cardio is ok ,,but get some testosterone ,,after 4 years traiining youre ready for testosterone,,its natural to body and youll be able to cut down on it and keep whole of your muscle thus avoid mental break downs along the way ,,
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: gh15 on April 19, 2009, 05:36:49 AM
why should he ignore the other posts, i asked him to lose 7-8 kg so i was not so far  ;D

i like to be cocky and arrogant on sundays ,,and any other day,,ok you can listen to sharif shalabi advicees too
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: enerlevel on April 19, 2009, 05:38:15 AM
what exactly does sodium do to ur body? i just read the post again and  it said get sodium intake under control... so what effect does this have on the body? :S
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on April 19, 2009, 05:38:56 AM
poor kid dont hear to gh15!!.. you dont need roids to achieve your goal..

hey gh15, the guy said he just wants to look ok with abs!!.. no need to take drugs at all!!..
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: gh15 on April 19, 2009, 05:39:58 AM
poor kid dont hear to gh15!!.. you dont need roids to achieve your goal..

hey gh15, the guy said he just wants to look ok with abs!!.. no need to take drugs at all!!..

yes he doesnt have to use roids,,i said in the post above listen to sharif shalabi ,,he gave ok advice
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: webcake on April 19, 2009, 05:41:45 AM
Brutal dirty clothes thrown all over the bed, dirty/diseased/grafitti covered walls, crooked clothes hanger with old shirt, ancient cheap pine wardrobe, lone old poster on wall covered by blue plastic bag, gay bracelet and Asian genetics.......
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: Marty Champions on April 19, 2009, 05:42:36 AM
(http://www.californiapaints.com/marketing/images/Web_ProPaint/ProPaint%20SemiGloss%20510.jpg)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=276226.0;attach=315557;image)

great falcon genetics
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: enerlevel on April 19, 2009, 05:44:26 AM
the only thing i take right now is  Optimum Nutrition Whey and took creatine for a while..... and thts all what i plan to take nothing more then that..... i know Roids is the way to go..... but i dont think i will be able to train so much harder... ok lets start from tomorrow ... i shall post some pics after a month :D thanks for all the advice and time :)
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: Method101 on April 19, 2009, 05:45:35 AM
20-30lbs. Superset leg raises and crunches.

Btw, are you chinease/japanese? seems like you are from the picture.
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on April 19, 2009, 05:46:24 AM
yes he doesnt have to use roids,,i said in the post above listen to sharif shalabi ,,he gave ok advice

thx man.. i really appreciate your great knowledge..
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: Marty Champions on April 19, 2009, 05:48:12 AM
this kid should bulk up

easier to have good mass and some cuts

than

all cuts n no mass
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: Method101 on April 19, 2009, 05:49:49 AM
this kid should bulk up

easier to have good mass and some cuts

than

all cuts n no mass
Maybe you should take your own advice
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on April 19, 2009, 05:50:46 AM
the only thing i take right now is  Optimum Nutrition Whey and took creatine for a while..... and thts all what i plan to take nothing more then that..... i know Roids is the way to go..... but i dont think i will be able to train so much harder... ok lets start from tomorrow ... i shall post some pics after a month :D thanks for all the advice and time :)

i am not as knowledgeable as gh15 but from my experience i tried creatine before and it helped me a lot to lift heavier and gave me a much better stamina.. but yes it made me somehow bloated!!.. it makes your muscles carry more water which is good but it also makes the whole body carry more water which is bad and will be totally against your goal..
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: enerlevel on April 19, 2009, 05:55:28 AM
should i be altering my exercises as well? should i be carrying light weights with more reps? or shall i do heavy with normal reps? more reps i mean like 15-20reps and by  normal 7-10....

right now i pick heavy (heavy for me atleast LOL)

dumbell press i can pick about 88lbs per side for 7-9 reps
and rod press is about  220 lbs for 7 reps...
and  back shoulder dumbless press is about  66 lbs per side for 10 reps....

should i continue to pick these weights or shall i bring them down for my new goal :D
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: Marty Champions on April 19, 2009, 05:58:13 AM
easier to put on horrific amounts of mass
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/honigga/Picture1108.jpg)

then to focus on epic leans
look at the dates on the pics, so close together bodyfat and mass is higher in the first pic but plenty stronger
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/honigga/Picture1083.jpg)
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: Marty Champions on April 19, 2009, 05:59:30 AM
Maybe you should take your own advice

my zero mass is more than the mass of your family
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: Marty Champions on April 19, 2009, 06:00:21 AM
im eating a shitload of peanutbutter and milk

its the only combination for milk otherwise u get extreme gas from milk alone u have to combine it
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: enerlevel on April 19, 2009, 06:00:44 AM
both the  pics loook at same to me :S  but u are in good shape .....
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: Method101 on April 19, 2009, 06:01:29 AM
im eating a shitload of peanutbutter and milk

its the only combination for milk otherwise u get extreme gas from milk alone u have to combine it
Lactose in milk makes you hold water and get bloated aswell.
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: Marty Champions on April 19, 2009, 06:04:34 AM
both the  pics loook at same to me :S  but u are in good shape .....

in the first pic i am 247
second pic 240

i has to not forget to do full body , if i dont i lose my mass gaining momentum per bodypart, at that point of forgetting, is when i put on more bodyfat to muscle swolness
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: Marty Champions on April 19, 2009, 06:05:13 AM
Lactose in milk makes you hold water and get bloated aswell.

wrong crystalmeth falcon
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: enerlevel on April 19, 2009, 06:06:49 AM
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in the first pic i am 247
second pic 240

i has to not forget to do full body , if i dont i lose my mass gaining momentum per bodypart, at that point of forgetting, is when i put on more bodyfat to muscle swolness



HOLY!! u mean to say to lost 7lbs in just 3 days????
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: Marty Champions on April 19, 2009, 06:11:32 AM


HOLY!! u mean to say to lost 7lbs in just 3 days????

no i gained dummy look at the date, a true falcon looks at the fine print and has eagle/falcon eyesight for trillions of miles
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: Get Rowdy on April 19, 2009, 06:12:00 AM
should i be altering my exercises as well? should i be carrying light weights with more reps? or shall i do heavy with normal reps? more reps i mean like 15-20reps and by  normal 7-10....

right now i pick heavy (heavy for me atleast LOL)

dumbell press i can pick about 88lbs per side for 7-9 reps
and rod press is about  220 lbs for 7 reps...
and  back shoulder dumbless press is about  66 lbs per side for 10 reps....

should i continue to pick these weights or shall i bring them down for my new goal :D

LMAO
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: webcake on April 19, 2009, 06:13:21 AM
LMAO

You rikey?
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: Get Rowdy on April 19, 2009, 06:20:15 AM
You rikey?

Rowdy rikey 2 dorrar fry rice.
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: webcake on April 19, 2009, 06:21:23 AM
Rowdy rikey 2 dorrar fry rice.

Me rikey flied lice too.

Happy good time for all.....
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: enerlevel on April 19, 2009, 06:21:42 AM
LMAO


hahha i know its shit weight ... but that is the max i can do lol  and that was bench press lol oops sorry...
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: Marty Champions on April 19, 2009, 06:22:49 AM

hahha i know its shit weight ... but that is the max i can do lol
epic earnerlevel falconias!
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: Get Rowdy on April 19, 2009, 06:25:37 AM

hahha i know its shit weight ... but that is the max i can do lol  and that was bench press lol oops sorry...

haha yeah I was just laughing about calling it 'rod press' not about the weight
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: Marty Champions on April 19, 2009, 06:38:41 AM
haha guys thanks for ignorin me while im   :-[
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: webcake on April 19, 2009, 06:40:03 AM
haha guys thanks for ignorin me while im   :-[

I didn't mean to ignore you.....
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: Mars on April 19, 2009, 06:41:33 AM
(http://i39.tinypic.com/2hmodj4.jpg)
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: Stavios on April 19, 2009, 06:44:37 AM


thanks for your time. i think i hold alot of water since there isnt alot of visible veins on me......... ok so i need to cut down about 15lbs? tht will bring me down to about 70kg.... humm . i dont really need to compete . just abs to show without loosing alot of my size.....

No you don't, it's fat

you guys need to stop it with the holding water bullshit
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: Get Rowdy on April 19, 2009, 07:03:32 AM
haha guys thanks for ignorin me while im   :-[

How's the salsa dancing Waddy?
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on April 19, 2009, 09:18:27 AM
should i be altering my exercises as well? should i be carrying light weights with more reps? or shall i do heavy with normal reps? more reps i mean like 15-20reps and by  normal 7-10....

right now i pick heavy (heavy for me atleast LOL)

dumbell press i can pick about 88lbs per side for 7-9 reps
and rod press is about  220 lbs for 7 reps...
and  back shoulder dumbless press is about  66 lbs per side for 10 reps....

should i continue to pick these weights or shall i bring them down for my new goal :D

No need to do high reps,.. I believe it’s better to use weights that allow you to do 7-10 reps but the most important thing is to go to failure with each set.. don’t say I will do 3 sets, 8 reps each.. this is wrong, just do your 3 sets and use the weight that you can do “around” 8 reps with it.. in most of my sets I forget to count the reps, I just go to failure knowing that it’s something around 8 sets or so..
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: pellius on April 19, 2009, 12:53:56 PM
no creatine its garbage! no creatine what so ever thats why you cant see yoru abs better right now because of that creatine ,,only thing you get out of creatine is kidny failure,,

the cardio is ok ,,but get some testosterone ,,after 4 years traiining youre ready for testosterone,,its natural to body and youll be able to cut down on it and keep whole of your muscle thus avoid mental break downs along the way ,,


But isn't a creatine a natural substance that your body needs for high intensity muscle contraction? Without creatine then no atp/adp conversion, no?
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: pellius on April 19, 2009, 01:06:28 PM
yes he doesnt have to use roids,,i said in the post above listen to sharif shalabi ,,he gave ok advice

How come "sharif shalbi" gets "gh15 approved" status so easily? Is it because he's such a big fan of the beautiful man with glasses?

Racist!
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: pellius on April 19, 2009, 01:12:10 PM
no i gained dummy look at the date, a true falcon looks at the fine print and has eagle/falcon eyesight for trillions of miles

LOL! I think you meant "million." Everyone knows the falcon vision starts to diminish after a million miles.

Best white man genetics on the board.
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on April 19, 2009, 01:14:32 PM
How come "sharif shalbi" gets "gh15 approved" status so easily? Is it because he's such a big fan of the beautiful man with glasses?

Racist!

no.. but because i was the only one who tried to help the guy as much as i could instead of posting silly comments about his room as most of the others did!!..
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: ASJChaotic on April 19, 2009, 05:47:54 PM
How come "sharif shalbi" gets "gh15 approved" status so easily? Is it because he's such a big fan of the beautiful man with glasses?

Racist!

SS is a good friend, he is just trying to help  8)
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on April 19, 2009, 08:28:12 PM
SS is a good friend, he is just trying to help  8)

thx bro.!!.. i really dont know what is te problem of that kid :)
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: ASJChaotic on April 19, 2009, 08:31:37 PM
thx bro.!!.. i really dont know what is te problem of that kid :)

he is jealous of you being AXA approved, bud, that is his problem  :)
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: calfzilla on April 19, 2009, 09:59:11 PM
just 10-15 lbs ur almost there. 
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: TechnoViking on April 19, 2009, 10:23:19 PM
Cut down on the MSG...
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: enerlevel on April 20, 2009, 01:37:21 AM
MSG is what ? salt? i still dont understand the relation of salt with dieting .... does salt make u fat :S or wat... could anyone xplain this in detail ..... sorry for being so dumb.....
Title: Re: need to cut but how much?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on April 20, 2009, 03:52:08 PM
MSG is what ? salt? i still dont understand the relation of salt with dieting .... does salt make u fat :S or wat... could anyone xplain this in detail ..... sorry for being so dumb.....

salt makes your body carry more water and so makes you look softer..