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Now that we have brought up buying pictures, let’s talk about this whole stigma attached to Lou about charging little kids $20 to take their picture with them.
“Lou, if a little kid comes up to you at a convention or a show and wants to take his picture with you, why do
you charge them $20?” “That’s a bad rap that came from Valentino. He obviously doesn’t understand what’s going on.” “Well, here’s your chance, Lou. Let’s straighten this thing out once and for all.”
“John, you’ve known me for many, many years. You used to come and work with Shelley when we would do
appearances and sell pictures— you know what goes on. We’re there to sell pictures. That’s how we make a living. That’s what I do for a living. I’m not representing any company. Lou Ferrigno works for Lou Ferrigno. Selling pictures and memorabilia is what I do. It’s a business. I can’t have people coming up to me at a convention or a show where I’m selling photos and take a picture with them. You know what happens, it happened all the time with Shelley until you put your foot down.”
“Yeah, I know— they take their picture with you and then they don’t buy one.”
“That’s right! They don’t. If they buy one of my pictures, then they can take a picture with me. But I’m there to sell
pictures. If I take a picture with everyone for free, no one will buy a picture. Since I’m in the business of selling pictures, that’s not very good.”
“Yeah,” I said, “but I think it was the stigma of the little kid coming up to you and you denying him the picture that created the bad image that Gregg talked about.”
“I know John, but you have to draw the line. The little kid came up because his parents sent him up. You think he came to the show by himself?” You guys just see me at two bodybuilding shows a year. I go to 20 conventions a year all over the world and sell photos with other celebrities and I have to tell you, everybody slams me for charging $20 for a photo. But I have news for you— I’m very reasonable. Some celebrities charge $150 for a photo and they won’t take a picture with you after you buy it! A lot of guys charge $50-$60 at a convention for a photo. Adam West [the original Batman from the TV show] charges $50 for a black and white, and $60 for color. Mark Hamill [Luke Skywalker] charges $185. Val Kilmer [Batman] charges $85-$100. Do you think those guys give photos away? If I gave a free picture or took a picture for free with every kid that ever came up to me, I’d never make a living!”
“What about outside the convention?” I asked. “What if a kid came up to you while you weren’t sitting at the
table signing and selling photos? What if you were in a hotel lobby and a little kid asked to take his picture with you, would you do it without charging $20?”
“Of course!” Louie boomed. “I’ve taken tons of pictures for free. I’ve visited kids in hospitals and schools and
given away autographed photos. I’ve had my picture taken a million times for free. It’s just when I’m working and trying to sell photos that I have to draw the line.”
“What about when people accuse you of being rude to them?” I asked.
“You should know all about this too from being with Shelley. My hearing is a problem and people don’t understand.
I use the best hearing aids and I can read lips, but you know what it’s like. It’s hard to hear in a big space with lots of noise. People think I can hear and they lean in to talk into my ear, when what I need them to do is step back so I can see their mouth moving. It’s natural to lean in, not step back. This happens constantly. I can’t hear and people think I’m being rude.”
I remember that being a great source of frustration for Shelley,” I said. “You’re right, the natural tendency is to lean in so people talk into your ear— but that was useless! She used to get so frustrated after 20 people would do that to her that she would just shove them in the chest and yell ‘Get back! I have to see your lips or I can’t hear you!’”
Okay, so my verdict on this whole $20 business is that photo sales are an occupation and if Lou is selling photos you need to respect that. If you made toys and sold them for $20 apiece, would you give one away to every little kid who asked you for one? If you did, you wouldn’t be in the toy business very long! The hearing thing is something most people just don’t understand. Lou breaks the mold of the traditional deaf guy. He’s managed his hearing loss very, very well, and to most people, he doesn’t look like he is challenged at all. I lived this frustration with someone for six years. I know how irritating it can be. If you ever get lucky enough to meet Lou Ferrigno in person, make sure
you speak clearly and look at him when you talk. I guarantee you will have a very positive experience. Lou is a very cool guy.
All right, now we’ve got that cleared up!
Just came across Lou's interview so I thought I'd post the $20 question since Lou gets a lot of flak here for his photo sales. I remember reading someone's post where he mentioned that Lou glares at people who photograph him on the street. Any truth to that?
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Interesting
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This Incredible Jerk is a trip. I totally understand his view of charging for his autograph or charging for an 8x10 photo. But for someone who simply comes up and wants a picture with him only to get denied is pretty shitty.
Not that I would want a pic of this Incredible Jerk. Even our fearless, Ron, doesn't care for this clown.
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Yeah I read that in the magazine, he says the word photo around 603times, he comes across as a little boy needing some growing up
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I have a few Star Trek etc freaks at my work and they have told me those guys can charge $40-$50 for a signiture on a photo.
Lou may be a dick but he's right, if you don't draw the line it will get pushed further and further back
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That's how he makes his living though. That's his job to sell his image back when he made the Hulk. That's not a real job to sell your image is it?
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That's how he makes his living though. That's his job to sell his image back when he made the Hulk. That's not a real job to sell your image is it?
Washed up "star" who cant say goodbye to fame. Selling pictures for a living oh brother
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Washed up "star" who cant say goodbye to fame. Selling pictures for a living oh brother
Lets not get started on what he did there
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You dont see stallone selling rambo or rocky pics
Fuck,you dont see any film stars doin it
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This about sums it all up better than anything :D
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You dont see stallone selling rambo or rocky pics
Fuck,you dont see any film stars doin it
I like when you put a comma inbetween fuck and you. grammer lawlz :D I'm messing with you, but it's still funny
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You dont see stallone selling rambo or rocky pics
Fuck,you dont see any film stars doin it
well, thats because Stallone while not in his best years, still is a millionaire, and Lou is a has-been celebrity...
but i have to agree, this interview (if its true) puts a whole new perspective for me about this 20$ a pic thing... I have to say that now i agree with him, and dont see exactly a big problem with it
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well, thats because Stallone while not in his best years, still is a millionaire, and Lou is a has-been celebrity...
but i have to agree, this interview (if its true) puts a whole new perspective for me about this 20$ a pic thing... I have to say that now i agree with him, and dont see exactly a big problem with it
Whole interview is in MD--latest issue. Has Lou on cover
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Haha did anyone notice in that clip the guy in the background says "of course he's Mr. Olympia Sydney". LMAO! I bet that sat real well with Lou. He never won an Olympia right? LOL.
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Verdicts:
1) On the $20 question, I find in favor of Lou.
2) On the rudeness issue, the case is dismissed without prejudice. The plaintiffs may gather new evidence and re-file their case.
...
Further:
GetBig's heralded $20 jokes are still deemed acceptable and in good taste and should must continue, regardless of the decision.
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Lou's still a douche
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I agree, lou has to buy his station or table at these shows.
Its not like he gets them for free.
If I could sell my pic for $20, Id take it. He wouldn't do it
if people didn't buy it.
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I'm sure he does a lot more busniess at comic book conventions than the Arnold or the Olympia.
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hahahhahahah........I snapped this pic while I was cruising pass by him Last month at the ASC. somethings never changes
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I have a few Star Trek etc freaks at my work and they have told me those guys can charge $40-$50 for a signiture on a photo.
Lou may be a dick but he's right, if you don't draw the line it will get pushed further and further back
I was at the Chiller convention this past weekend, and what Lou said to John had some merit. Peter Criss, the original drummer for KISS, was there and he's been known to charge fifty bucks for an autograph, and he also insists that no-one gets any kind of a freebie. Twenty dollars is pretty much the standard price for a signed photo from any of the guests.
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You dont see stallone selling rambo or rocky pics
Fuck,you dont see any film stars doin it
Ummmm.....what do you call Val Kilmer and Mark Hamill? They charge for their photos, according to that article.
Washed up "star" who cant say goodbye to fame. Selling pictures for a living oh brother
If he's selling pictures for a profit, apparently he's not "washed up" after all.
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Ummmm.....what do you call Val Kilmer and Mark Hamill? They charge for their photos, according to that article.
Hmm why?? I can't imagine either of those two living on the breadline...
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Romano should have asked him the real Questions.
John: so big lou, how do you feel about how you and Arnolds "life after bodybuilding" took such drastic turns? I mean he was your arch nemesis in Pumping iron...And look 30 years later, he still owns you. He has made millions in movies, married to American Royalty and governer to the 7th largest economy in the world. While you on the other are pedelling photos to 10 year olds for a 20 spot...How does that make you feel big lou?
Lou: Turns green
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guess what
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Hmm why?? I can't imagine either of those two living on the breadline...
Who said they were living on the breadline? People are just trying to maximize profit. Michael Vick ran a dogfighting ring, and he certainly wasn't strapped for cash, at the time.
Kilmer doesn't need to sell his Batman pics at SuperHero/Comic book conventions. But, he does, because there's money to be made.
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very sad guy, i dont know wheter hes broke or is loaded, in the latter case it would be pathetic if he still wants to earn a few bucks with selling hulk stuff at expos.
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Who said they were living on the breadline? People are just trying to maximize profit. Michael Vick ran a dogfighting ring, and he certainly wasn't strapped for cash, at the time.
Kilmer doesn't need to sell his Batman pics at SuperHero/Comic book conventions. But, he does, because there's money to be made.
does Kilmer really show up to those? He doesn't seem like that type of guy.
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I'm gonna take a wild guess and say that Val Kilmer must have pissed off the Jewish Hierarchy not unlike Micky Rourke...Kilmer has a lot of talent as an actor and just seemed to disappear...Now kilmer is showing up at D-list events looking to score some autograph money...I guess he just didn't know his role :-\
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he sued his own family for using their last name 'ferigno' for a business.
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he sued his own family for using their last name 'ferigno' for a business.
Someone said his brother wore a green tie to a wedding that both he and Lou were attending and Louie came up from behind him with a pair of sissors and cut this brothers tie right in front of everyone...
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Val Kilmer charges 100 bucks for a photo?? I kinda doubt that.
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Lou Ferrigno has a point, and I do agree with him.... except for a few instances.
He says the parents sent the kids to get the autographs. I don't beleive that. These kids are with their parents and they see Lou as the Hulk, and they want a picture with him. I am not talking about a teenager, or an adult but a little kid, who is excited to see him. I can't even imagine Brock Lesner, Frank Mir, and many others doing that.
There is a point of money to be made, but also a point of courtesy. Crushing a 6 or 7 year old by demanding money from them just because they met someone on tv is wrong. Take the damn picture with a little kid, it is not going to hurt selling pictures to others. They are not getting an autograph here either.
Yes, I have been to a myriad of conventions and all, but these guys are there at tables specifically to sell autographs with there pictures. That is know well in advance, and they are there for select hours, specifically for that purposes. And I have seen people wait in lines, and get a picture with them, and not get an autographed picture either. I have also met a number of them around various conventions who gladly let people take their picture too.
Yes, it is a business, I agree with that. But in every business, you need to have the correct image and advertising too.
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I'm gonna take a wild guess and say that Val Kilmer must have pissed off the Jewish Hierarchy not unlike Micky Rourke...Kilmer has a lot of talent as an actor and just seemed to disappear...Now kilmer is showing up at D-list events looking to score some autograph money...I guess he just didn't know his role :-\
kilmer has a lot of acting talent hahah...you must not have seen "the saint" or many of his other acting roles...with the exception of his roles in tombstone and his part in heat he has been a mediocre actor at best and has relied on his looks to carry him.
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Ron, if i ever meet you can i get a signed 8x10?
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A quality hunk of man charging a couple of bucks for a quality product. The man charges a reasonable price. I find no fault with this man.
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Lou Ferrigno has a point, and I do agree with him.... except for a few instances.
He says the parents sent the kids to get the autographs. I don't beleive that. These kids are with their parents and they see Lou as the Hulk, and they want a picture with him. I am not talking about a teenager, or an adult but a little kid, who is excited to see him. I can't even imagine Brock Lesner, Frank Mir, and many others doing that.
There is a point of money to be made, but also a point of courtesy. Crushing a 6 or 7 year old by demanding money from them just because they met someone on tv is wrong. Take the damn picture with a little kid, it is not going to hurt selling pictures to others. They are not getting an autograph here either.
Yes, I have been to a myriad of conventions and all, but these guys are there at tables specifically to sell autographs with there pictures. That is know well in advance, and they are there for select hours, specifically for that purposes. And I have seen people wait in lines, and get a picture with them, and not get an autographed picture either. I have also met a number of them around various conventions who gladly let people take their picture too.
Yes, it is a business, I agree with that. But in every business, you need to have the correct image and advertising too.
Spot on, nobody would deny ''LOOW FUWIGGNOO'' the right to sell photos but by knocking back young kids who just want a quick snap with him is just beyond the pale, and does massive damage to his reputation. LOOW needs to see the big picture (thats $20 please!) and wake up and smell the coffee! :D
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Romano should have asked him the real Questions.
John: so big lou, how do you feel about how you and Arnolds "life after bodybuilding" took such drastic turns? I mean he was your arch nemesis in Pumping iron...And look 30 years later, he still owns you. He has made millions in movies, married to American Royalty and governer to the 7th largest economy in the world. While you on the other are pedelling photos to 10 year olds for a 20 spot...How does that make you feel big lou?
Lou: Turns green
hahaha truth hurts like a mofo. ;D
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Lou Ferrigno has a point, and I do agree with him.... except for a few instances.
He says the parents sent the kids to get the autographs. I don't beleive that. These kids are with their parents and they see Lou as the Hulk, and they want a picture with him.
Would kids these days even know that Lou was the Hulk back in the day? Apart from occasional reruns the TV show would not be familiar to todays kids. Only adults would remember watching the hulk series. Todays kids would probably be more interested current stars that they've seen recently (with the exception of cult shows like star trek)
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Now that we have brought up buying pictures, let’s talk about this whole stigma attached to Lou about charging little kids $20 to take their picture with them.
“Lou, if a little kid comes up to you at a convention or a show and wants to take his picture with you, why do
you charge them $20?” “That’s a bad rap that came from Valentino. He obviously doesn’t understand what’s going on.” “Well, here’s your chance, Lou. Let’s straighten this thing out once and for all.
Now that we have brought up buying pictures, let’s talk about this whole stigma attached to Lou about charging little kids $20 to take their picture with them.
“Lou, if a little kid comes up to you at a convention or a show and wants to take his picture with you, why do
you charge them $20?” “That’s a bad rap that came from Valentino. He obviously doesn’t understand what’s going on.” “Well, here’s your chance, Lou. Let’s straighten this thing out once and for all.”
None of you whining little, shit bags, of puss, have ever been in the higher echelons of the BB'ing game, have you ?? (rhetorical)
You would know that the 'IFBB' (had you got in the van with the rest of them) gives not the slightest fuck about it's (coughing fit) athletes !!
If you ain't in the top 10 (male & female competitors) YOU ARE FUCKED & ON YOUR OWN !!
Let's look at the 'premier league Football morons', $200,000 a week (some of them).
F1 ?? uh-hu !!
Pro-Baseball ?? uh-hu !!
Pro-(what you call Football) ?? uh-hu !!
The list goes on.
The 'IFBB' is a fucking traveling circus, & any-one who throws them-selves at the machine is going to get hurt (a bit like HollyWeird).
As I have covered in another thread (I will not go into detail here) what a lot of female BB'ers have to do in Hotel/Motyel rooms, :o with short, fat, bald, guys in their 50's - just to be able to pay the food/drug bills for next years 'circus tour' - it is fucking sicko mate, propa fucking SICKO !!
'Eddie Abbew' is from down these ways, he uses my mate's supps shop, we asked him back in 05 "are you competing in the comps this year" - 'Eddie' - "NO - I can't afford the flights/accommodation/gyms fees while I am gone"
Yeah, what a great fucking sport this is (muffled laughter).
You put the same time/dedication into (European Football) & you will have a 'super model wife' various country houses in the Shire counties (ex aristocratic manors) a fleet of high performance 'German/Italian' sports cars - a guy to wash/polish them 3 times a week, etc etc..................... .
DRUGS & FOOD COST MONEY OVER 12 MONTHS (you could buy a house with this shit).
Then you are on here moaning about 'Lou' one of the oldest of the old-school crew trying to make a $ !! fuck you & your entire clan of in-bred fuck-wits.
Now go jump of the 'Golden gate bridge' only chain your self to a 60 KG lump of Granite !!
We don't want the harbour patrol, plucking you to safety should you survive the fall.
Now, be gone with you..................... .... ::)
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Take the damn picture with a little kid, it is not going to hurt selling pictures to others. They are not getting an autograph here either.
If I was in a line for some-thing & was paying $20 for the privileged.
Then some little fucker get's it for free bacause he is not yet in possession of a set of CAR KEYS ??
I WOULD KICK UP A FORCE 20 HURRICANE.
Same rule for all, or NADA !! ::)
OMG.
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None of you whining little, shit bags, of puss, have ever been in the higher echelons of the BB'ing game, have you ?? (rhetorical)
You would know that the 'IFBB' (had you got in the van with the rest of them) gives not the slightest fuck about it's (coughing fit) athletes !!
If you ain't in the top 10 (male & female competitors) YOU ARE FUCKED & ON YOUR OWN !!
Let's look at the 'premier league Football morons', $200,000 a week (some of them).
F1 ?? uh-hu !!
Pro-Baseball ?? uh-hu !!
Pro-(what you call Football) ?? uh-hu !!
The list goes on.
The 'IFBB' is a fucking traveling circus, & any-one who throws them-selves at the machine is going to get hurt (a bit like HollyWeird).
As I have covered in another thread (I will not go into detail here) what a lot of female BB'ers have to do in Hotel/Motyel rooms, :o with short, fat, bald, guys in their 50's - just to be able to pay the food/drug bills for next years 'circus tour' - it is fucking sicko mate, propa fucking SICKO !!
'Eddie Abew' is from down these ways, he uses my mate's supps shop, we asked him back in 05 "are you competing in the comps this year" - 'Eddie' - "NO - I can't afford the flights/accommodation/gyms fees while I am gone"
Yeah, what a great fucking sport this is (muffled laughter).
You put the same time/dedication into (European Football) & you will have a 'super model wife' various country houses in the Shire counties (ex aristocratic manors) a fleet of high performance 'German/Italian' sports cars - a guy to wash/polish them 3 times a week, etc etc..................... .
DRUGS & FOOD COST MONEY OVER 12 MONTHS (you could buy a house with this shit).
Then you are on here moaning about 'Lou' one of the oldest of the old-school crew trying to make a $ !! fuck you & your entire clan of in-bred fuck-wits.
Now go jump of the 'Golden gate bridge' only chain your self to a 60 KG lump of Granite !!
We don't want the harbour patrol, plucking you to safety should you survive the fall.
Now, be gone with you..................... .... ::)
you negelcted to mention that european/world 'soccer'
blows donkey dick
HTH
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everyone's fave,
arnold
did the same years ago
worse than the greene one
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you negelcted to mention that european/world 'soccer'
blows donkey dick
HTH
Always the last to be picked for the team eh champ? :D
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you negelcted to mention that european/world 'soccer'
blows donkey dick
HTH
HARDLY THE ISSUE AT HAND.
Epic 'OT' post from the latest in a line of Morons that make up the 'US' contingent of poster (with the odd exception, you know who you are) ;D
What a fuck-wit ::)
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None of you whining little, shit bags, of puss, have ever been in the higher echelons of the BB'ing game, have you ?? (rhetorical)
You would know that the 'IFBB' (had you got in the van with the rest of them) gives not the slightest fuck about it's (coughing fit) athletes !!
If you ain't in the top 10 (male & female competitors) YOU ARE FUCKED & ON YOUR OWN !!
Let's look at the 'premier league Football morons', $200,000 a week (some of them).
F1 ?? uh-hu !!
Pro-Baseball ?? uh-hu !!
Pro-(what you call Football) ?? uh-hu !!
The list goes on.
The 'IFBB' is a fucking traveling circus, & any-one who throws them-selves at the machine is going to get hurt (a bit like HollyWeird).
As I have covered in another thread (I will not go into detail here) what a lot of female BB'ers have to do in Hotel/Motyel rooms, :o with short, fat, bald, guys in their 50's - just to be able to pay the food/drug bills for next years 'circus tour' - it is fucking sicko mate, propa fucking SICKO !!
'Eddie Abbew' is from down these ways, he uses my mate's supps shop, we asked him back in 05 "are you competing in the comps this year" - 'Eddie' - "NO - I can't afford the flights/accommodation/gyms fees while I am gone"
Yeah, what a great fucking sport this is (muffled laughter). you are so gay with that
You put the same time/dedication into (European Football) & you will have a 'super model wife' various country houses in the Shire counties (ex aristocratic manors) a fleet of high performance 'German/Italian' sports cars - a guy to wash/polish them 3 times a week, etc etc..................... .
DRUGS & FOOD COST MONEY OVER 12 MONTHS (you could buy a house with this shit).
Then you are on here moaning about 'Lou' one of the oldest of the old-school crew trying to make a $ !! fuck you & your entire clan of in-bred fuck-wits.
Now go jump of the 'Golden gate bridge' only chain your self to a 60 KG lump of Granite !!
We don't want the harbour patrol, plucking you to safety should you survive the fall.
Now, be gone with you..................... .... ::)
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does Kilmer really show up to those? He doesn't seem like that type of guy.
He was at Chiller in '07. Dude needs to get his ass on the treadmill.
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I paid Lou $20 :-\
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I don't like being told the truth, why ?? becaur it's huhgly mon
Wadda madda, mawy ??
You no like to hear the truth about the 'IFBB' - you forget guys like 'VL' & me have been around for years.
There is one of your brothers, Eddy Abbew, look at his condition - he was not that far out when we chatted in 05, yet he could not be arsed to compete, cause the pro BB'ing game is for chumps (unless you are Coleman/cuttler).
I a m 38, I know all the shit that goes on at the traveling circus that is the 'IFBB'.
How many 'IFBB' athletes habe you had honest candid conversations with about what goes on there ??
You are still a puppy, whn eyou can come on a real hunt with us Wolves,you might see.
One day mawy, one day :-*
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a true civilized confident man doesnt charge shit even not if hes piss broke, he will be proud and thankfull someone offers his time to get on a picture with him.
louie is on the bottom of the dirt and i feel unclean having spent a few minutes talking about him.
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kilmer has a lot of acting talent hahah...you must not have seen "the saint" or many of his other acting roles...with the exception of his roles in tombstone and his part in heat he has been a mediocre actor at best and has relied on his looks to carry him.
The guy was fucking gold in "The Doors"...
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The guy was fucking gold in "The Doors"...
Agreed. Roger Ebert was right when he said that Kilmer's role was less a case of acting than it was a case of possession.
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isn't Lou eligible for Social Security yet? :)
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Wadda madda, mawy ??
You no like to hear the truth about the 'IFBB' - you forget guys like 'VL' & me have been around for years.
There is one of your brothers, Eddy Abbew, look at his condition - he was not that far out when we chatted in 05, yet he could not be arsed to compete, cause the pro BB'ing game is for chumps (unless you are Coleman/cuttler).
I a m 38, I know all the shit that goes on at the traveling circus that is the 'IFBB'.
How many 'IFBB' athletes habe you had honest candid conversations with about what goes on there ??
You are still a puppy, whn eyou can come on a real hunt with us Wolves,you might see.
One day mawy, one day :-*
I never posted that. You= extreme lame. How on earth do you modify a quote and then respond to it. Are you high..like seriously
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Lou Ferrigno has a point, and I do agree with him.... except for a few instances.
He says the parents sent the kids to get the autographs. I don't beleive that. These kids are with their parents and they see Lou as the Hulk, and they want a picture with him. I am not talking about a teenager, or an adult but a little kid, who is excited to see him. I can't even imagine Brock Lesner, Frank Mir, and many others doing that.
There is a point of money to be made, but also a point of courtesy. Crushing a 6 or 7 year old by demanding money from them just because they met someone on tv is wrong. Take the damn picture with a little kid, it is not going to hurt selling pictures to others. They are not getting an autograph here either.
Yes, I have been to a myriad of conventions and all, but these guys are there at tables specifically to sell autographs with there pictures. That is know well in advance, and they are there for select hours, specifically for that purposes. And I have seen people wait in lines, and get a picture with them, and not get an autographed picture either. I have also met a number of them around various conventions who gladly let people take their picture too.
Yes, it is a business, I agree with that. But in every business, you need to have the correct image and advertising too.
and in every business you are going to have to give a couple freebies away in the spirit of goodwill, Lou doesn't seem to grasp this concept
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Lou's main business/income is selling his pics, so his acting and personal training career make him less money, if so that is pretty sad.