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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Sherief Shalaby on April 23, 2009, 04:03:18 AM
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yes at its best nasser's was better!!.. ;D
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Nasser was awesome his first year. After that he went to shit. How can someone go to shit as fast as he did?
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This is what? '94 or '95 nasser, right? Lighter, better definition. Lost it when he added mass.
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This is what? '94 or '95 nasser, right? Lighter, better definition. Lost it when he added mass.
yes from his back but from the front he still looked great and defined at his heavy version..
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nasser's back never came close to Levrone or Yates
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yes from his back but from the front he still looked great and defined at his heavy version..
Yep, but from the front he didn't look as impressive in 94-95 as he did in 96-97-98 at a heavier weight (and Levrone's upper front was one of the best, remember). Nasser never really came up with the whole package. Eiother he had good definition with a good back at a lower weight but guys like Levrone or Yates were just bigger overall or he would show up bigger but with less definition than them.
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nasser's back never came close to Levrone or Yates
you can't say (levrone or yates) when you talk about back!!.. each of them was in a totally different league in this area!..
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Levrone's back was actually very good but, true, nowhere close to Yates. The only person who can compete with Yates in that department is Ronnie and everybody knows it. I wouldn't even compare Haney's back to post-92 Dorian's.
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Nasser is beating Levrone there.....
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Levrone's back was actually very good but, true, nowhere close to Yates. The only person who can compete with Yates in that department is Ronnie and everybody knows it. I wouldn't even compare Haney's back to post-92 Dorian's.
levrone's back was good but not as good as the rest of him.. same as his calves and his upper legs (except at few shows where he presented great quads)..
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and yes lee haney's back was big but not as detailed as dorian's or ronnie's..
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levrone's back was good but not as good as the rest of him.. same as his calves and his upper legs (except at few shows where he presented great quads)..
He had great quads early in his career then sustained a bad injury if I recall correctly. Never really showed up as complete after that. His O' best showings IMO were unfortunately vs a top-form Dorian in both '92 and '95.
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levrone is not bald.
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levrone is not bald.
he is... but by choice
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levrone is not bald.
nasser is not 180 pounds now.. ;)
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who cares. That's like arguing over Douglas and Lincoln's slave policies.
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I don't get how Nasser was criticized for not having a good back when that picture shows it to be one of the best I've seen.
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I don't get how Nasser was criticized for not having a good back when that picture shows it to be one of the best I've seen.
that's because the criticism wasn't based on a few select pictures
"If Nasser ever gets a back, we better all just go home" - Mike Quinn
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I don't get how Nasser was criticized for not having a good back when that picture shows it to be one of the best I've seen.
Levrone vs. Nasser. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!
(http://i40.tinypic.com/5wxag2.jpg)
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haha his site is so horrible.
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Don't care
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who cares. That's like arguing over Douglas and Lincoln's slave policies.
i believe lincoln's was better right?.. what do you think??.. :P
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I don't get how Nasser was criticized for not having a good back when that picture shows it to be one of the best I've seen.
nasser back was very good.. its only problem was not being so defined or so hard when he increased his weight and started to compete at over 270 pounds from 1995.. no one could criticize nasser's back size, width, or, thickness.. it only lacked the definition of the other top pros.. paul dillet had a much worse back than nasser's but it’s not mentioned a lot as a famous “weak back”.. i believe nasser's back is always criticized because it was his only weak point!!.. and like mike quin said if his back was as the rest of him he would be the best ever hands down..
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that's not Branch Warren!!
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no one could criticize nasser's back size, width, or, thickness..
Please see above. Yes, one could.
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another thread comparing nasser to Mr. Levrone
nasser fans are still feeling the LevrOWNINGS to this day 8)
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Levrone was a better bodybuilder, period
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another thread comparing nasser to Mr. Levrone
nasser fans are still feeling the LevrOWNINGS to this day 8)
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Earl how are there still new vids and pictures of Dorian coming out and not of Levrone?
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Earl how are there still new vids and pictures of Dorian coming out and not of Levrone?
Maybe because homosexual cravings for Dorian are stronger?
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another thread comparing nasser to Mr. Levrone
nasser fans are still feeling the LevrOWNINGS to this day 8)
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when both were competing close to their best nasser was always kicking levrone's ass.. the only area levrone could be compared with nasser in was his great shoulders and arms..
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Levrone was a better bodybuilder, period
i agree that levrone's career was more successful in general but when both were at their best Nasser was clearly better.. much better upper legs and calves, wider and thicker torso which made him more proportioned than levrone who needed a bigger torso to match his great arms and shoulders..
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no comment 8)
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when both were competing close to their best nasser was always kicking levrone's ass.. the only area levrone could be compared with nasser in was his great shoulders and arms..
that's debateable
a career is measured over an extended period of time, not just 3 years
for that reason Mr. Levrone is superior
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Earl how are there still new vids and pictures of Dorian coming out and not of Levrone?
i don't think there is that much of a difference
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that's debateable
a career is measured over an extended period of time, not just 3 years
for that reason Mr. Levrone is superior
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i believe that both of us are saying the same thing.. that kevin's career was better but when both were at their best nasser's body was better..
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i believe that both of us are saying the same thing.. that kevin's career was better but when both were at their best nasser's body was better..
Except for his back and the oily delts/biceps. Also, while Nasser was big, Kevin did have much better muscle shape and also never sported a gut like Nasser.
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Except for his back and the oily delts/biceps. Also, while Nasser was big, Kevin did have much better muscle shape and also never sported a gut like Nasser.
Despite what you feel his weaknesses were, Nasser did beat Levrone numerous times during his prime from 96 to 99 AC. True Kevin was placing in the top 6 for more years than Nasser, but at their respective bests Nasser consistently beat him in most shows.
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consistently
Consistent over a remarkably short time period? I think that is what they call a stretch.
Mr. Olympia
1992: Levrone 2nd
1993: Levrone 6th
1994: Levrone 3rd, Nasser 7th
1995: Levrone 2nd, Nasser 3rd
1996: Levrone 3rd, Nasser disqualified
1997: Nasser 2nd, Levrone 4th
1998: Nasser 3rd, Levrone 4th
1999: Levrone 4th, Nasser 6th
2000: Levrone 2nd, Nasser 5th
2001: Levrone 3rd, Nasser 9th
2002: Levrond 2nd, Nasser 15th
2003: Levrone 6th
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Despite what you feel his weaknesses were, Nasser did beat Levrone numerous times during his prime from 96 to 99 AC. True Kevin was placing in the top 6 for more years than Nasser, but at their respective bests Nasser consistently beat him in most shows.
translation:
Levrone = better bodybuilding genetics
Nasser = product of drug use that was bound to burn out
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Consistent over a remarkably short time period? I think that is what they call a stretch.
Mr. Olympia
1992: Levrone 2nd
1993: Levrone 6th
1994: Levrone 3rd, Nasser 7th
1995: Levrone 2nd, Nasser 3rd
1996: Levrone 3rd, Nasser disqualified
1997: Nasser 2nd, Levrone 4th
1998: Nasser 3rd, Levrone 4th
1999: Levrone 4th, Nasser 6th
2000: Levrone 2nd, Nasser 5th
2001: Levrone 3rd, Nasser 9th
2002: Levrond 2nd, Nasser 15th
2003: Levrone 6th
You're ignoring the Arnold Classic shows. From the 96 Olympia to the 99 Arnold Classic Nasser beat Levrone in each Olympia and AC. That's the period I'm referring to when they were both at their respective prime.
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From the 96 Olympia to the 99 Arnold Classic Nasser beat Levrone in each Olympia and AC.
Nasser beat Levrone in AC 97 and 99.
translation:
Levrone = better bodybuilding genetics
Nasser = product of drug use that was bound to burn out
Yes, seems about right.
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That's the period I'm referring to when they were both at their respective prime.
LOL their respective prime?! ;D
Levrone got runner up in the Olympia in 95, and then again in 2000 (i think or 2002)... Levrone could come back even today and probably crack top three at the O. ;)
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You're ignoring the Arnold Classic shows. From the 96 Olympia to the 99 Arnold Classic Nasser beat Levrone in each Olympia and AC. That's the period I'm referring to when they were both at their respective prime.
The Olympia is the show that really counts fat boy. You =OWNED again.
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i believe that both of us are saying the same thing.. that kevin's career was better but when both were at their best nasser's body was better..
actually no i am not saying that
nasser was bigger but Mr. Levrone was better overall
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Consistent over a remarkably short time period? I think that is what they call a stretch.
Mr. Olympia
1992: Levrone 2nd
1993: Levrone 6th
1994: Levrone 3rd, Nasser 7th
1995: Levrone 2nd, Nasser 3rd
1996: Levrone 3rd, Nasser disqualified
1997: Nasser 2nd, Levrone 4th
1998: Nasser 3rd, Levrone 4th
1999: Levrone 4th, Nasser 6th
2000: Levrone 2nd, Nasser 5th
2001: Levrone 3rd, Nasser 9th
2002: Levrond 2nd, Nasser 15th
2003: Levrone 6th
levrone was 5th and not 6th in 1993.. go and study some history :P
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levrone was 5th and not 6th in 1993.. go and study some history :P
BOOOM!!! Movie star good looks!
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Peak Nasser bests everyone and everything ever seen on the stage. I truly believe that.
I think Kevin had probably better consistency - funny that people never mention his rampant synthol use - but he never matched Nasser at his best. Nasser has admitted that he did tail off a bit later in his career.. events like September 11th and his obvious demotivation and falling out of love with the sport after the constant crooked fixes and thefts of his olympias took their toll.
However, for a 4/5 year period Nasser genuinely built the most perfect physique in terms of mass, symmetry, proportion and conditioning. Kevin was not proportional, he look freaky at times with his big , synthol arms and delts but he was not as proportional as Nasser. This is important part of the judging. Nasser at his best was perfection because nothing dominated and nothing was under developed, just perfect.
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You're ignoring the Arnold Classic shows. From the 96 Olympia to the 99 Arnold Classic Nasser beat Levrone in each Olympia and AC. That's the period I'm referring to when they were both at their respective prime.
Levrone had already past his prime in '96 event though he got to runner-up placings at the 'O after. But his legs kept being weaker and weaker. His prime was between 92 and 95 (specialy those two editions). Levrone had his best had a complete physique which Nasser never developped unofrtunately. Nasser looked great from the back (and with good def) at a lighterweight then looked great from the front at a heavierweight (but lost his back) and he never had both at the same time. You would have to add Nasser's bodyparts from different years to get a picture of how he could look at his "best". And that's where lies the problem, Nasser never ever reached his true peak.
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Peak Nasser bests everyone and everything ever seen on the stage. I truly believe that.
Few others share this opinion. Most would probably go for Ronnie, Dorian, Flex, Shawn, Kevin, Arnold or so on.
I think Kevin had probably better consistency
You think?
constant crooked fixes and thefts of his olympias
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Nasser at his best was perfection because nothing dominated and nothing was under developed, just perfect.
In your guy eyes, sure, I can understand that.
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Peak Nasser bests everyone and everything ever seen on the stage. I truly believe that.
I think Kevin had probably better consistency - funny that people never mention his rampant synthol use - but he never matched Nasser at his best. Nasser has admitted that he did tail off a bit later in his career.. events like September 11th and his obvious demotivation and falling out of love with the sport after the constant crooked fixes and thefts of his olympias took their toll.
However, for a 4/5 year period Nasser genuinely built the most perfect physique in terms of mass, symmetry, proportion and conditioning. Kevin was not proportional, he look freaky at times with his big , synthol arms and delts but he was not as proportional as Nasser. This is important part of the judging. Nasser at his best was perfection because nothing dominated and nothing was under developed, just perfect.
god u are sad.
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god u are sad.
And a lame gimmick of the "blockhead"