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when she denied it, she was lying guys.
WASHINGTON (AFP) - The CIA first sought in May 2002 to use harsh interrogation techniques including waterboarding on terror suspects, and was given key early approval by then-national security adviser Condoleezza Rice, a US Senate intelligence document said.
The agency got the green light to use the near-drowning technique on July 26, 2002, when attorney general John Ashcroft concluded "that the use of waterboarding was lawful," the Senate Intelligence Committee said in a detailed timeline of the "war on terrorism" interrogations released Wednesday.
Nine days earlier, the panel said, citing Central Intelligence Agency records, Rice had met with then-director George Tenet and "advised that the CIA could proceed with its proposed interrogation of Abu Zubaydah," the agency's first high-value Al-Qaeda detainee, pending Justice Department approval.
Rice's nod is believed to be the earliest known approval by a senior official in the administration of George W. Bush of the intelligence technique which current Attorney General Eric Holder has decried as "torture."
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when she denied it, she was lying guys.
WASHINGTON (AFP) - The CIA first sought in May 2002 to use harsh interrogation techniques including waterboarding on terror suspects, and was given key early approval by then-national security adviser Condoleezza Rice, a US Senate intelligence document said.
The agency got the green light to use the near-drowning technique on July 26, 2002, when attorney general John Ashcroft concluded "that the use of waterboarding was lawful," the Senate Intelligence Committee said in a detailed timeline of the "war on terrorism" interrogations released Wednesday.
Nine days earlier, the panel said, citing Central Intelligence Agency records, Rice had met with then-director George Tenet and "advised that the CIA could proceed with its proposed interrogation of Abu Zubaydah," the agency's first high-value Al-Qaeda detainee, pending Justice Department approval.
Rice's nod is believed to be the earliest known approval by a senior official in the administration of George W. Bush of the intelligence technique which current Attorney General Eric Holder has decried as "torture."
eric holder is a fuckin idiot and he will prove it during the next 4 years
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Good, at least one person DC cares more about the lives of millions than the discomfort of having water poured over your head.
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Good, at least one person DC cares more about the lives of millions than the discomfort of having water poured over your head.
No, that isn't the topic here.
The next time someone calls the Bush admin a bunch of liars, and someone denies it, we can now point to the exact quotes where Condi denied torture.
She lied, brah.
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No, that isn't the topic here.
The next time someone calls the Bush admin a bunch of liars, and someone denies it, we can now point to the exact quotes where Condi denied torture.
She lied, brah.
You people are a disgrace. I seriously would want to throw you off a NYC skyscaper if you think that not waterboarding a terorrist is worth the lives of thousands of our citizens.
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You people are a disgrace. I seriously would want to throw you off a NYC skyscaper if you think that not waterboarding a terorrist is worth the lives of thousands of our citizens.
Settle down, angry man. I've already said that I support torture if we know it'll save lives. I would have punched KSM myself about 1500 times.
however, condi is a liar. You can say it without being angry, dutch boy.
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No, that isn't the topic here.
The next time someone calls the Bush admin a bunch of liars, and someone denies it, we can now point to the exact quotes where Condi denied torture.
She lied, brah.
LOL and what of obama and his lies, no threads for those? hahaha more 240 point at them and run away so they dont have to face the truth, notice how barry said he would investigate and prosecute those who did wrongs during his campaign and now he is saying he is against it? Barrys dumb ass was probably informed about some shit that lifted that ignorant idealogy that hazes most liberals eyes and now he understands. Notice how he kept the wire taps and even expanded in some areas? LOL ::) yes bush is a BAD MAN
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LOL and what of obama and his lies, no threads for those? hahaha more 240 point at them and run away so they dont have to face the truth, notice how barry said he would investigate and prosecute those who did wrongs during his campaign and now he is saying he is against it? Barrys dumb ass was probably informed about some shit that lifted that ignorant idealogy that hazes most liberals eyes and now he understands. Notice how he kept the wire taps and even expanded in some areas? LOL ::) yes bush is a BAD MAN
So just to be clear.
You kill a guy, and your only defense to the jury is "Hey, Ted Bundy killed way more guys than me. let me go free?"
Just say it Tony. COndi lied repeatedly. She's a liar. Say it, brah. DOn't be scared.
Is it really that hard for you and 333386 to admit condi lied? He goes into empty threats and you attack barry. You two don't have the cajones to just say "Yes, Condi did lie"?
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Settle down, angry man. I've already said that I support torture if we know it'll save lives. I would have punched KSM myself about 1500 times.
however, condi is a liar. You can say it without being angry, dutch boy.
and george jefferson didnt chop down the cherry tree...he told his slave to do it. lol
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So just to be clear.
You kill a guy, and your only defense to the jury is "Hey, Ted Bundy killed way more guys than me. let me go free?"
Just say it Tony. COndi lied repeatedly. She's a liar. Say it, brah. DOn't be scared.
Is it really that hard for you and 333386 to admit condi lied? He goes into empty threats and you attack barry. You two don't have the cajones to just say "Yes, Condi did lie"?
Not is she did not believe water boarding terrorists was torture.
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Not is she did not believe water boarding terrorists was torture.
I see.
So are you saying you honestly believe that Condi did not consider waterboarding a guy 180 times to be torture?
Dude, it's okay to say she lied. Blame it on national security or something. Coach has said he HOPES our leaders lie to us, so he's cool with it. You still want to believe Bush admin never lied, huh?
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If you would have repercussions about waterboarding your dog, cat, son, grandparents, mother, father or daughter then it is torture.
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Its more u don't have a right to know....some things ur better off not knowing....in this instance I could care less.
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Its more u don't have a right to know....some things ur better off not knowing....in this instance I could care less.
Quick question. If I took your mother and waterboarded her, would you consider it torture?
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So just to be clear.
You kill a guy, and your only defense to the jury is "Hey, Ted Bundy killed way more guys than me. let me go free?"
Just say it Tony. COndi lied repeatedly. She's a liar. Say it, brah. DOn't be scared.
Is it really that hard for you and 333386 to admit condi lied? He goes into empty threats and you attack barry. You two don't have the cajones to just say "Yes, Condi did lie"?
thats your justification dip shit and every other liberal on this board you yell "bush did this bush did that" the difference is i agree with what bush and now what obama is doing as far as "torture" ::) and you condemn one and praise another for the same act dip shit.
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If you would have repercussions about waterboarding your dog, cat, son, grandparents, mother, father or daughter then it is torture.
thats the most ignorant liberal arguement ive heard on here and thats saying something when you beat out 240 bro. Are dogs, cats, sons, grandparents, mothers, fathers or daughters trying to kill innocent civilians? NO YOU SAY OHHHHH WELL ITS NOT THE SAME BRAINCHILD.
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I see.
So are you saying you honestly believe that Condi did not consider waterboarding a guy 180 times to be torture?
Dude, it's okay to say she lied. Blame it on national security or something. Coach has said he HOPES our leaders lie to us, so he's cool with it. You still want to believe Bush admin never lied, huh?
If the believed that waterboarding did not constitute torture under the Geneva convention for these TERRORISTS, than know.
Like I say, I was at ground zero three days after it happened. Its only 9 miles from me.
Anyone who would let thousands of people die in the name of some bizarre deraged "principle" of not pouring water of someones' head should be the first to get blown up in our next attack that we failed to prevent because we were to timid against these killers.
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Its more u don't have a right to know....some things ur better off not knowing....in this instance I could care less.
i agree.
however, 333386 can't seem to accept that.
he feels condi was naive and that she honestly didn't believe we were torturing.
33 and tony just can't say it. It hurts them. 33 instantly delivered some rant about tossing me off a building. meltdown.
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Quick question. If I took your mother and waterboarded her, would you consider it torture?
If you took my mother for any reason, you'd better damn well hope waterbording will be all I will do.
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If you would have repercussions about waterboarding your dog, cat, son, grandparents, mother, father or daughter then it is torture.
If by waterboarding by dog it could save thousands of lives, then I will be the one to do it.
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If the believed that waterboarding did not constitute torture under the Geneva convention for these TERRORISTS, than know.
Like I say, I was at ground zero three days after it happened. Its only 9 miles from me.
Anyone who would let thousands of people die in the name of some bizarre deraged "principle" of not pouring water of someones' head should be the first to get blown up in our next attack that we failed to prevent because we were to timid against these killers.
dutch boy - take a breath-
I've already said this isn't about torture, no matter how hard you want to make it about it.
Condi lied to America. That's all. She might have had her reasons, that's cool. But this is another historical example of the bush admin knowing about somehting and lying all along.
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thats the most ignorant liberal arguement ive heard on here and thats saying something when you beat out 240 bro. Are dogs, cats, sons, grandparents, mothers, fathers or daughters trying to kill innocent civilians? NO YOU SAY OHHHHH WELL ITS NOT THE SAME BRAINCHILD.
So you don`t have a firm moral definition of torture.
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So just to be clear.
You kill a guy, and your only defense to the jury is "Hey, Ted Bundy killed way more guys than me. let me go free?"
Just say it Tony. COndi lied repeatedly. She's a liar. Say it, brah. DOn't be scared.
Is it really that hard for you and 333386 to admit condi lied? He goes into empty threats and you attack barry. You two don't have the cajones to just say "Yes, Condi did lie"?
The democratic congress lied about it as well.
They knew because they are on the intelligence committee.
Its cool to be against waterboarding. It helps you get elected, but everyone was for it when things were bad in 2002.
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/23/top-legislators-knew-of-interrogations/
Between 2002 and 2006, the top Republicans and Democrats on the House and Senate intelligence committees "each got complete, benchmark briefings on the program," said one of the intelligence sources who is familiar with the briefings.
"If Congress wanted to kill this program, all it had to do was withhold funding," said the source, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to talk about the closed-door briefings.
Those who were briefed included current House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Sen. John D. Rockefeller IV of West Virginia and Rep. Jane Harman of California, all Democrats, and Sen. Pat Roberts of Kansas, Sen. Richard C. Shelby of Alabama and Rep. Peter Hoekstra of Michigan, all Republicans.
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Why is this even an issue? If the military gets ahold of some terrorist fuck... why do they even ever see the light of day again?
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If you took my mother for any reason, you'd better damn well hope waterbording will be all I will do.
So then you admit that waterboarding IS torture.
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okay.
So we know rice, pelosi, and a score of others lied.
33 and tony,
Pelosi lied. You have no prob saying that. BUt when condi does it... it's because she believes it's not really torture, right 333386? ;)
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Why is this even an issue? If the military gets ahold of some terrorist fuck... why do they even ever see the light of day again?
I agree 100%.
Torture them, and then make em walk the plank. I'm in agreement with the neocuunts here on that one.
It's just funny they call barry and pelosi liars... but when Condi does it, 333386 says she was just confused or it was a definition thing.
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So then you admit that waterboarding IS torture.
Call it what you want, whats torture to one person is a cake walk to another. No, I personally don't think it's torture enough. Is sleep deprivation torture? Is putting bugs in a cell with one person torture?
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The democratic congress lied about it as well.
They knew because they are on the intelligence committee.
Its cool to be against waterboarding. It helps you get elected, but everyone was for it when things were bad in 2002.
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/23/top-legislators-knew-of-interrogations/
Between 2002 and 2006, the top Republicans and Democrats on the House and Senate intelligence committees "each got complete, benchmark briefings on the program," said one of the intelligence sources who is familiar with the briefings.
"If Congress wanted to kill this program, all it had to do was withhold funding," said the source, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to talk about the closed-door briefings.
Those who were briefed included current House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Sen. John D. Rockefeller IV of West Virginia and Rep. Jane Harman of California, all Democrats, and Sen. Pat Roberts of Kansas, Sen. Richard C. Shelby of Alabama and Rep. Peter Hoekstra of Michigan, all Republicans.
THIS IS MY POINT 240, you condemn one person but not another, you condemn one administration but not another LIB IDIOCY.
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I agree 100%.
Torture them, and then make em walk the plank. I'm in agreement with the neocuunts here on that one.
It's just funny they call barry and pelosi liars... but when Condi does it, 333386 says she was just confused or it was a definition thing.
No, what I am saying is that if they believed that it was not torture as defined under the Geneva Convention than they can say that it was not since terrorists were previouslt covered under the Geneva convention since they dont act under the flag of a nation.
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THIS IS MY POINT 240, you condemn one person but not another, you condemn one administration but not another LIB IDIOCY.
i will happily call pelosi a liar. I didn't konw that was even in question lol...
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No, what I am saying is that if they believed that it was not torture as defined under the Geneva Convention than they can say that it was not since terrorists were previouslt covered under the Geneva convention since they dont act under the flag of a nation.
do you think pelosi is also protected because of this vague definition "mix-up"?
or she was a torturous lib and poor condi just a confused scholar?
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So you don`t have a firm moral definition of torture.
LOL and whats your definition of torture? you ever read the geneva convention as it pertains to torture? just about anything could be considered torture ::) but to me thats neither here nor there i agree with torturing these jack asses, they are lucky im not president they think they have it bad by having water poured on their heads LOL id go medevil on their asses.
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Quick question. If I took your mother and waterboarded her, would you consider it torture?
If you took my mother for any reason, you'd better damn well hope waterbording will be all I will do.
So then you admit that waterboarding IS torture.
What you propose is kidnapping and assault.
It has nothing to do with torture
However I do like how you associated KSM with his mother.
Nice work. ::)
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i will happily call pelosi a liar. I didn't konw that was even in question lol...
how many threads have you started about her? thats the point
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how many lies has obama told? how many threads you started about those? thats the point
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No, that isn't the topic here.
The next time someone calls the Bush admin a bunch of liars, and someone denies it, we can now point to the exact quotes where Condi denied torture.
She lied, brah.
Water boarding isnt torture!!Cutting the heads off your captured enemies is torture.
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and george jefferson didnt chop down the cherry tree...he told his slave to do it. lol
:-[ That's just plain embarassing. :-X
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Water boarding isnt torture!!Cutting the heads off your captured enemies is torture.
Only if they're alive when you do it, ...otherwise it's desecration of a corpse, ...like the dead contractor in AbuGhraib
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Only if they're alive when you do it, ...otherwise it's desecration of a corpse, ...like the dead contractor in AbuGhraib
Rice has more balls in one of her boots than ZERO does in his entire body.