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hahahahaha so much bullshit its unreal - enjoy:
Here's an interesting interview from a few yrs back with Paul Borresen R.I.P.
Testosterone | No. 51 | May 7, 1999
The following interview is just that, an interview. We included it because we find it interesting that anyone would use such horrendously large amounts of drugs (okay, so we're sort of like the people who pull over to watch the aftermath of a car accident). In no way do we advocate such dosages, and if you were to ask each of us here at Testosterone individually, we'd probably disagree with a lot of what Paul Borresen says about steroids. Nevertheless, what he has to say makes for damn interesting reading. TC and I got together last week and were throwing around some ideas for keeping Testosterone on the cutting edge of bodybuilding information. We spoke of upcoming articles, new training techniques, and discussed research on state-of-the-art supplements, as well as continual studies on existing products. It was easy to examine the strong points that exist within the magazine. But after patting ourselves on the back for a while, it was time to take a cold, hard look at what could be made better.At one point, TC posed three questions. One, "Who would you be most interested in interviewing?" Two, "If there was one person you would like to see contributing to Testosterone, who would it be?" And three, "Who is the most over-the-edge, balls-to-the-wall individual you know of that you think our readers would like to hear from?" Without hesitation, I replied, "I can answer all three of those questions with the same name-Paul Borresen."To call renegade pharmacologist Paul Borresen an authority on drug usage is an enormous understatement. When it comes to firsthand experience, Paul may very well be the authority! I can't think of too many people who have pushed the pharmacological envelope as far as Paul. Yet, what makes this remarkable man so different than many of the pro bodybuilders who merely stay on whatever gear they can get for as long as they can get it, Paul is one of the most knowledgeable people around in the science of anabolic steroids.University trained, Paul received his bachelor's degree in biochemistry. He graduated with first-class honors. He then went on to get his master's degree in pharmacology, specializing in the study of receptor sites and their function. He's had his work published in medical journals throughout the world, written several books, and had over 200 articles appear in magazines on the various aspects of steroid use and their application to bodybuilding. When some of the top professionals need advice on how to arrange their stacks and cycles for a major show, they call Paul. That list of top professionals-according to Paul-even includes a fellow by the name of Dorian Yates.Some people have practical knowledge. Some people have the schooling. Paul Borresen has both, not to mention a 285-pound physique that doesn't stray far from around 8% body fat! How many of today's "gurus" do you know that can make the same claim?If you're opposed to the radical usage of performance-enhancement drugs, then move on-get the heck out of here. This article isn't for you. For those of you with a more daring nature who'd like to learn from this particular master, you may proceed-with caution.Class is now in session.
NM: First, Paul, how are you feeling? I heard that you suffered an accident recently.
PB: Yes, I took a nasty fall and was laid up for four-and-a-half months. It required major surgery. For a long time, I was in a full body brace. While in the hospital, I went down to 170 pounds! I recovered quickly but, of course, I was receiving glutamine, Deca, and growth hormone! It was no problem getting it into the hospital. Since then, I've entered some area contests and won, but my goal is to come back from having a broken back and win the Nationals.
NM: Any innovative substances that you've been experimenting with?
PB: Whenever there's anything new, I'll try it! You know of the new oils used to inflate a muscle, like Synthol? Well, I've put together a combination of oils in my lab that contains nandrolone, benzyl alcohol, and silica gel. It provides a permanent growth due to the fact that the silica coats the muscle fibers. But it also gives you 300 milligrams of gear per milliliter. It's really amazing, but it can be overdone, as in the case of Ernie Taylor. Have you seen his triceps?
NM: Of course. They're so freaky, they look "fake."
PB: They don't look right. That's an example of an overdone local effect. As far as anything else new, I've been experimenting with prostaglandins since '95. When I won the Northwest Championship, I had six milliliters of Cavajet, which is something that's used to get an erection. But I didn't need it there, so I put it in my arms and shoulders! I've been working with people using Prostaglandins before going to bed at night, and we've seen phenomenal results. They can also be used to provide "local" enlargement. I use it to smooth out my symmetry.
NM: Were there any side effects?
PB: I don't feel that the claims of bad side effects are all that genuine. If you look at the risks and side effects of pharmacology as a whole, prostaglandins fall pretty low down on the list.
NM: What's the typical drug regime of some of the people you coach?
PB: I'm coaching people who use two thousand milligrams of gear each day. They're very big. If you're going to take that level of anabolics, I believe in very short courses-thirty days, at the most, before your body realizes what happened. I'm a firm believer that receptor sites up-regulate. When you do about 5000 milligrams a week, they respond unbelievably. People are going up a pound a day for 18 days straight.
NM: So by using super-physiologic dosages and keeping cycles short, you won't need to increase the dosages with each successive cycle?
PB: You should need less! It's like training. A newcomer does 16 sets and makes gains. The more advanced someone is, the less amount of sets they need to do. I only do about four or five sets. I'm helping Ian Harrison prepare for the Arnold, and he needs even fewer sets per workout.
NM: How long of a wait do you recommend before starting another course?
PB: At least 15 days, which comes to 21 days after your last shot. But if you wait too much longer than three weeks, you're going backwards in your progress. You'll spend time "making up" for what you've lost, even if you use anti-catabolics.
NM: Tell me a little about your company. How did it get started?
PB: A few years back, my wife and I started a company called Chemical Nutrition. Unfortunately, we took on a partner of dubious integrity. It got so bad that he threatened to put me in a body bag! I ended that relationship and started Biohazard. We've been growing very quickly in the UK, and I'm glad to say that my ex-partner's business is declining badly. I don't follow a business "strategy." I focus on culture. I want to make the best products. I won't bull**** anyone or let anyone work for me who isn't honest. I have an MBA degree, and my business philosophy is not to build an empire; rather, we want to build many castles. I want to make money, but I have to look at myself in the mirror every day. I have to respect what I see.
NM: What is the most unique Biohazard product?
PB: We have something called Ravenger 5, which is a special grade of protein powder. It has the exact amino acid make-up, in proprietary order, of human muscle-the only product of its kind. It took a lot of work getting the proper ratios required. We finally came up with a combination of whey, egg albumin, soy isolate, and wheat gluten. The glutamine is not a free form because protein works best in a natural peptide chain. I'm not a big fan of aminos in free form.
NM: You've been outspoken in the past about professional bodybuilders. You made some statements recently concerning Paul Dillett...
PB: I have nothing personal against him. He doesn't train all that hard. He's very lazy. I don't like it when bodybuilders rely on massive amounts of gear and don't train correctly or look after their health. Everyone I work with uses high androgens, and we take certain precautions. I have them all on glycerin. It reduces water and blood pressure. It's an indigestible carb, which causes water to be drawn from the surrounding tissues like the skin. It also increases vascularity.
NM: What is your current stack?
PB: For the first ten days, I take 1000 mg of Sustanon a day. Days 11 to 20, I take 800 mg of Deca, 400 mg of Primobolan, and 600 mg of test propionate a day. Days 21 to 30, I do 400 mg of propionate, 200 mg of Winstrol, and four of my Triple X capsules, which are a homemade combination of Dinatropinol, T3, and oral insulin. I also take a 30-IU shot of insulin every time I eat a meal.
NM: Gee, is that all?
PB: That's what it takes. I want to make the most massive gains possible. I've gained 94 pounds in the last five months. Oh, I almost forgot-I also use growth hormone four days at a time, which is the way a child produces it, in four-day spurts. It doesn't work as well if you stay on it all the time. Consistent use suppresses your natural GH secretion, plus you build up a tolerance to its effects. I use 12 IUs of GH each day I use it.
NM: No cycling down the dosages of the steroid stack?
PB: No, I just stop. I don't feel that there's much benefit from cycling down. By distancing the shots and the half-life of the drugs, a "cycle down" occurs naturally. I want to clean out as soon as possible. When people stick in low levels of gear in order to "bridge," they're not clearing anything.
NM: Any anti-estrogens?
PB: Aminoglutathiamide is terrific when used the last ten days before a show. It makes you freaky hard. It's a pretty risky drug, however. The ACTH [Adrenal Corticol Tropic Hormone] kickback can create a bigger problem than what you started with. It's a gamble. I use Tamoxifen, 40 mg a day before bed, if I start to get too puffy.
NM: I noticed that you don't use any orals.
PB: For what I use, it wouldn't be healthy. I would hate to take 2,000 mg of 2-mg Anavar tablets!
NM: Definitely not practical. No veterinarian steroids?
PB: No. One thing I've learned from my studies in pharmacology is that mammalian physiology may be similar, but there are species differences. A veterinarian drug is developed through veterinarian research by companies that design it for animals. There aren't any studies of their effectiveness in humans. You need much higher doses than the proper human equivalent. A dog's testosterone would work in a human, just not as effectively. Since I can't control what's compatible and what isn't, I won't use them.
NM: Is there really any way of detecting counterfeits?
PB: It's so easy to fake the ampoules and boxes. Whenever you see an expos of what is fake and how a "real" steroid should look, the counterfeiters just copy the "real" one. There are a few tricks. For example, Primo shouldn't fall out when you turn the box upside down.
NM: Unless the dealer has pulled the vial out a few times.
PB: That's a good point. In that case, it could be real, but you'd think it was fake. There's just no way of knowing. Some guys over here copied the pink pentagon Thai D-bol and put 5 mg of clenbuterol in them.
NM: Five milligrams?! My God, did anyone die?
PB: There were nine reported deaths. I took one, and went into the hospital.
NM: What's your present association with Dorian Yates?
PB: I take a phone call from Dorian every couple of weeks about technical matters. He'll usually have me come down to his house and ask me about various drugs. I showed him how to use growth hormone and IGF. I helped him with his DNP usage for his last Olympia show. I can honestly say that DNP can produce a condition that's unbelievable, but you've got to get it right! I find it horrendous. My temperature went up to 103 degrees. I was sick, and it felt like I was on fire.
NM: So in the future, will you just stick to using clen?
PB: No, I'd still use the DNP. I'll just suffer. It can make you lose five pounds of fat in a week. My waist is 31 inches. That's also one benefit of being in the hospital. I had to have two ribs removed, which made my waist slimmer. Cher had a similar surgical procedure done on her to produce a longer torso look. I love it!
NM: What is the best steroid, in your opinion?
PB: If I had to recommend just one, I'd have to say that Deca has the best risk to benefit ratio. But my absolute favorite drug is Primobolan.
NM: I love Primo, too. People think it's weak because it doesn't produce water weight. Deca, on the other hand, bloats me as much as straight testosterone.
PB: You're telling me! Deca is very bloating. Not all tests cause as much water retention. But some people seem to go for that bloat, don't they? They equate it with more size.
NM: What drugs don't you like?
PB: I don't like testosterone cypionate. It's a very raw drug. It also makes you depressed. Anadrol is a **** drug. The fact that it's a 50-mg tablet tells you how weak it is.
NM: I've often made that same point, but it's amazing how many people don't "get" it. The low-dosed drugs, like Winstrol, build the most muscle.
PB: Winstrol is a very potent tissue-building drug in the truest sense! As far as effectiveness in building muscle, 50 mg of Winny tabs will blow 50 mg of Anadrol right out of the water!
NM: Thank you! It's nice to know I'm not alone in that evaluation.
PB: It's so obvious. Anadrol is designed to correct anemia. It builds red blood cells. It does not build muscle. It may help at the end of a course to "fill up" on blood, which may help you to hold on to the gained weight. It's a poor man's EPO [erythropoietin]. If I wanted to make a lot of money, I'd design a drug and call it Super-bol 5,000,000! Everyone will think it's really strong! People have so much of this stuff wrong. They think that Primo's weak, when it's actually very strong. They say that Anadrol is powerful, when it's actually very weak. Cypionate is more popular than enanthate, but the enanthate is terrific and cyp is crap. They draw conclusions without really understanding basic pharmacology. People should be using the finer, sophisticated drugs like Primo and Winstrol, not cypionates and the veterinarian products. It's so absurd!
NM: Does it make sense not to stack too many different steroids?
PB: All steroids compete with each other. That's why I say to take Sus for ten days, then Deca for ten days, and so on. Proviron is thought to be an anti-estrogen, but it's really an anti-androgen. Clomid is an underrated anti-estrogen.
NM: How does Clomid differ from Cyclofenil?
PB: Cyclofenil is a weak estrogen. Even if it competes for estrogen sites, some might get through. Clomid removes the estrogen, so it's much more effective.
NM: Who's the most outrageous steroid abuser you've ever known?
PB: I'd love to say, but I can't.
NM: You don't have to name names.
PB: Okay, the craziest thing that I've ever seen was done by a British pro. He takes a 100-ml bottle and sticks whatever he can get into it, no matter what. Deca, cyp, Equipoise, anything! He'll then take a five-ml shot of that every three hours.
NM: Wow!
PB: He'll also put in ten mg of propionate every day into specific body parts. He doesn't consider that a part of his stack because it's "locating." He does a total of at least 60 shots a day.
NM: That's mind-boggling. How does he look?
PB: Pretty ****ing awesome!
NM: No doubt! Paul, are there any last comments that you'd like to make?
PB: I just want to be able to provide accurate information and sell products that I know are effective. My motto is, "Ignorance kills-let's kill ignorance." I honestly believe that if we give the people the right information, we'll build this sport. There are a lot of assholes with too much power in our sport!
NM: I agree. We're doing what we can on this end. I hope that you'll be able to be a regular contributor to Testosterone. Your expertise is invaluable, and I'm sure that our readers will enjoy what you have to say.
PB: I'd love to write for you guys, and providing honest information to people who care is the right reason for doing so.
NM: Paul, I know that there's still so much we could talk about. Let's do this again sometime.
PB: That'd be great. Whew! Did anybody out there get hurt? I'm sure that I don't have to offer a disclaimer to the drug dosages that Paul has advocated. This is obviously for the most advanced bodybuilder with extensive experience in chemical assistance. Nevertheless, Paul's comprehension of the subject is unquestionably vast, and I'm sure that he's left more than a few people with their heads spinning.
Class dismissed.
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the late Paul Borresen
I have read a few articles, dude wasn't fucking around with low dosages :o
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wheres the bullshit??
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The fact that many bodybuilders believed his BS says a lot about what kind of people the community is made of.
Especially this part
University trained, Paul received his bachelor's degree in biochemistry. He graduated with first-class honors. He then went on to get his master's degree in pharmacology, specializing in the study of receptor sites and their function. He's had his work published in medical journals throughout the world
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"only 1000mg of sust for 10 day is shit, i'll recommend 1000mg of sust/day for 16 week."
classic quote from the S board. :D
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Ever see a pic of him? Looked like crap. You dont need drugs in those amounts.
He used to advertise in MM and was holding a gun to a teddy bear i think.
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Any pics of him?
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he looked like a bloated wreck
like every other juicemonkey
you see in every gym
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does cypionate really cause depression?
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Any pics of him?
There was one tiny pic posted once where he looked very good. But in later years he apparently looked horrible, most likely due to the Nubain, Crack and Heroin he was on according to some sources like Trevor Smith.
Maybe someone can find the Trevor Smith article where he wrote about bringing him over for some seminars.
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(http://teambiohazard-usa.com/zen/images/IMG_1240.JPG)
is that him?
omg what a joke.
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Borreson and Trevor Smith used to be business partners, they had a falling out and went their seperate ways. both dead now.
i'm pretty sure i remember him saying he pissed off Dorian one time, and some dudes came and broke his back. i'll see if i can find the article.
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that isn't too impressive for the dosages he was claiming, maybe he wasn't a great responder. Maybe he should have upped the dosage.
jt
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that isn't too impressive for the dosages he was claiming, maybe he wasn't a great responder. Maybe he should have upped the dosage.
jt
Most of these fellas are more engaged and enjoy the theory of AAS and bodybuilding over actually physically bodybuilding.
Just like some people are obsessed with 'collecting' anabolics like stamps but never actually amount to anything.
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Most of these fellas are more engaged and enjoy the theory of AAS and bodybuilding over actually physically bodybuilding.
Just like some people are obsessed with 'collecting' anabolics like stamps but never actually amount to anything.
exactly!
couldn't have been said better than this..
like a "trend" or something.
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this guy's a tool.
i love the part where he bags people for not knowing basic pharmacology yet his argument that anadrol "must be weak" is because it comes in 50mg tabs. ::)
what a moron.
its no wonder people dont "get it"...its because theres nothing to get.
a certain milligram dosage of a drug is related only to how it works physiologically. one dosage cant be compared directly to another!...lol...
i stopped reading right there when i realised this guy has been schooled by the underground.
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this guy's a tool.
i love the part where he bags people for not knowing basic pharmacology yet his argument that anadrol "must be weak" is because it comes in 50mg tabs. ::)
what a moron.
its no wonder people dont "get it"...its because theres nothing to get.
a certain milligram dosage of a drug is related only to how it works physiologically. one dosage cant be compared directly to another!...lol...
are you implying that =
dbol is stronger than winstrol because 50 mg of dbol produces gains while 50mg of winstrol doesnt
is flawed arguiment?
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There is a reason why Paul Borresen is dead and its because he had a drug problem. His Biohazard products were garbage.
At least Trevor's Nuclear Nutrition was high grade
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There is a reason why Paul Borresen is dead and its because he had a drug problem. His Biohazard products were garbage.
At least Trevor's Nuclear Nutrition was high grade
Vince..your show is just around the corner , you must have cellophane like skin by now , hows it all comming togeather?
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At least Trevor's Nuclear Nutrition was high grade
VERY high grade...some of my all time favorites! He was a nice guy too
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Vince..your show is just around the corner , you must have cellophane like skin by now , hows it all comming togeather?
I'm looking 1000% better than 2006. My abs are not only showing but also my intercostals as well and I don't even have to flex them. I could realistically do the Metrolina on May 9th if I wanted to and make an impressive showing but I'm going to continue with my original plan doing the NGA Night of Champions on June 6th so I'll be better prepared and make a better showing.
Big shot goes out to ALR as they have really helped me out and also to Chris Aceto who is now giving me a hand as well in preparing for this event. I have to say that I'm very grateful to these folks and I'm going to do the very best I can in winning this event
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VERY high grade...some of my all time favorites! He was a nice guy too
His MRP was the best. 100 grams and it went down like Gatorade..... ;D Far ahead of its time
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His MRP was the best. 100 grams and it went down like Gatorade..... ;D Far ahead of its time
nigro xcda
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His MRP was the best. 100 grams and it went down like Gatorade..... ;D Far ahead of its time
that shit has nothing on your bee pollen
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I'm looking 1000% better than 2006. My abs are not only showing but also my intercostals as well and I don't even have to flex them. I could realistically do the Metrolina on May 9th if I wanted to and make an impressive showing but I'm going to continue with my original plan doing the NGA Night of Champions on June 6th so I'll be better prepared and make a better showing.
Big shot goes out to ALR as they have really helped me out and also to Chris Aceto who is now giving me a hand as well in preparing for this event. I have to say that I'm very grateful to these folks and I'm going to do the very best I can in winning this event
Good stuff..Must feel great having someone like chris in your corner.
Good luck ;)
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I'm looking 1000% better than 2006. My abs are not only showing but also my intercostals as well and I don't even have to flex them. I could realistically do the Metrolina on May 9th if I wanted to and make an impressive showing but I'm going to continue with my original plan doing the NGA Night of Champions on June 6th so I'll be better prepared and make a better showing.
Big shot goes out to ALR as they have really helped me out and also to Chris Aceto who is now giving me a hand as well in preparing for this event. I have to say that I'm very grateful to these folks and I'm going to do the very best I can in winning this event
Looking forward to seeing what you present onstage Vince. I mean that in the best way possible. :D
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does cypionate really cause depression?
Why would it more than any other Test, it is just the ester that alters the release speed into the blood. ???
Or was that sarcasm ??
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are you implying that =
dbol is stronger than winstrol because 50 mg of dbol produces gains while 50mg of winstrol doesnt
is flawed arguiment?
= lack of understanding of the pharmacokinetics of various esters of Testosterone.
Winstrol is 'DHT' based 'Dyhrdra-Test' & is only really used to harden up a physique that is sub 9% BF.
Pharmacokinetics (in Greek: “pharmacon” meaning drug and “kinetikos” meaning putting in motion, the study of time dependency; sometimes abbreviated as “PK”) is a branch of pharmacology dedicated to the determination of the fate of substances administered externally to a living organism. In practice, this discipline is applied mainly to drug substances, though in principle it concerns itself with all manner of compounds ingested or otherwise delivered externally to an organism, such as nutrients, metabolites, hormones, toxins, etc.
Pharmacokinetics is often studied in conjunction with pharmacodynamics. Pharmacodynamics explores what a drug does to the body, whereas pharmacokinetics explores what the body does to the drug. Pharmacokinetics includes the study of the mechanisms of absorption & distribution of an administered drug, the rate at which a drug action begins and the duration of the effect, the chemical changes of the substance in the body (e.g. by enzymes) and the effects and routes of excretion of the metabolites of the drug.
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Borreson and Trevor Smith used to be business partners, they had a falling out and went their seperate ways. both dead now.
i'm pretty sure i remember him saying he pissed off Dorian one time, and some dudes came and broke his back. i'll see if i can find the article.
I think you will find that it was 'Kerry Kayes' that got fucked off & sent a crew round.
He was sposed to get more than a broken back, the way I heard it, but he wasn't moving so he was presumed dead.
Looks a bit sus to the 'Pig's' if he falls out another window a week later though.
maybe the 'OD' wasn't, we will never know.
He made some spectacular enemies in his time, very nasty lads some of em. ::)
No wonder he is fucking dead, fucking retard ;D
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hahahahaha so much bullshit its unreal - enjoy:
Here's an interesting interview from a few yrs back with Paul Borresen R.I.P.
Testosterone | No. 51 | May 7, 1999
The following interview is just that, an interview. We included it because we find it interesting that anyone would use such horrendously large amounts of drugs (okay, so we're sort of like the people who pull over to watch the aftermath of a car accident). In no way do we advocate such dosages, and if you were to ask each of us here at Testosterone individually, we'd probably disagree with a lot of what Paul Borresen says about steroids. Nevertheless, what he has to say makes for damn interesting reading. TC and I got together last week and were throwing around some ideas for keeping Testosterone on the cutting edge of bodybuilding information. We spoke of upcoming articles, new training techniques, and discussed research on state-of-the-art supplements, as well as continual studies on existing products. It was easy to examine the strong points that exist within the magazine. But after patting ourselves on the back for a while, it was time to take a cold, hard look at what could be made better.At one point, TC posed three questions. One, "Who would you be most interested in interviewing?" Two, "If there was one person you would like to see contributing to Testosterone, who would it be?" And three, "Who is the most over-the-edge, balls-to-the-wall individual you know of that you think our readers would like to hear from?" Without hesitation, I replied, "I can answer all three of those questions with the same name-Paul Borresen."To call renegade pharmacologist Paul Borresen an authority on drug usage is an enormous understatement. When it comes to firsthand experience, Paul may very well be the authority! I can't think of too many people who have pushed the pharmacological envelope as far as Paul. Yet, what makes this remarkable man so different than many of the pro bodybuilders who merely stay on whatever gear they can get for as long as they can get it, Paul is one of the most knowledgeable people around in the science of anabolic steroids.University trained, Paul received his bachelor's degree in biochemistry. He graduated with first-class honors. He then went on to get his master's degree in pharmacology, specializing in the study of receptor sites and their function. He's had his work published in medical journals throughout the world, written several books, and had over 200 articles appear in magazines on the various aspects of steroid use and their application to bodybuilding. When some of the top professionals need advice on how to arrange their stacks and cycles for a major show, they call Paul. That list of top professionals-according to Paul-even includes a fellow by the name of Dorian Yates.Some people have practical knowledge. Some people have the schooling. Paul Borresen has both, not to mention a 285-pound physique that doesn't stray far from around 8% body fat! How many of today's "gurus" do you know that can make the same claim?If you're opposed to the radical usage of performance-enhancement drugs, then move on-get the heck out of here. This article isn't for you. For those of you with a more daring nature who'd like to learn from this particular master, you may proceed-with caution.Class is now in session.
'FP' when did you first read that interview with Paul ??
Just wonder how long you have had your eye on the british BB'ing scene.
I mean that is over a decade ago now, how old are you ??
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'FP' when did you first read that interview with Paul ??
Just wonder how long you have had your eye on the british BB'ing scene.
I mean that is over a decade ago now, how old are you ??
i found it on google some time ago and saved it. I was recently looking through my pc for an article and came across it, and thought it was funny.
i'm 31.
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i found it on google some time ago and saved it. I was recently looking through my pc for an article and came across it, and thought it was funny.
i'm 31.
Ever seen the original ??
As that is not it. ;)
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I'd go farther. I'd suggest that FP went frantically searching for that article, after VL mentioned it a week or so since, having known nothing about it beforehand.
FP, did you ever get around to telling me where that wedding reception was held?
By the way, how come you're listed elsewhere as being 24?
DAMY
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Lots of the other comments on this thread are achingly familiar; that is they've been read elsewhere over the past few years and regurgitated here by pseudo-smart geeks keen to look knowledgeable.
DAMY
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Ever seen the original ??
As that is not it. ;)
no, i havn't why has it been edited or changed in some way?
I'd go farther. I'd suggest that FP went frantically searching for that article, after VL mentioned it a week or so since, having known nothing about it beforehand.
FP, did you ever get around to telling me where that wedding reception was held?
By the way, how come you're listed elsewhere as being 24?
DAMY
hahahaha i suggest i am occupying spece in your head ::)
i can assure you i did not see any post by shirtlifter, regardless i had this article on my hard drive for quite a while.
i think i first came across it on mick harts site if i recall correctly - i have saved many many such articles on my hard drive.
where exactly am i listed as being 24 ?
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I think you will find that it was 'Kerry Kayes' that got fucked off & sent a crew round.
He was sposed to get more than a broken back, the way I heard it, but he wasn't moving so he was presumed dead.
I read that he tried to commit suicide and jumped out a window...your version makes more sense.
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Yeah, I heard the window story too, way back when.
Panda, there's a FatPanda listed on BB.com's forum. I dare say it ain't you, then.
By the way, that Borresen interview, if you scoffed at it for being bullshit, how come you had it stored on your hard drive? When were you planning to reference the bullshit therein?
And why won't you tell me where that wedding do was? It's annoying me now.
As for your occupying space in my head, no. There isn't sufficient space for you in my front room, let alone my head.
DAMY
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Yeah, I heard the window story too, way back when.
Panda, there's a FatPanda listed on BB.com's forum. I dare say it ain't you, then.
By the way, that Borresen interview, if you scoffed at it for being bullshit, how come you had it stored on your hard drive? When were you planning to reference the bullshit therein?
And why won't you tell me where that wedding do was? It's annoying me now.
As for your occupying space in my head, no. There isn't sufficient space for you in my front room, let alone my head.
DAMY
hahahahaha i clearly own your mind in every way possible.
i have owned the first 2 horsemen of the appocalypse namely - shirtlifter and pillow biter - that only leaves you.
although if you are now trolling other bodybuilding sites searching for my e-handle and any posts you can use against me its obvious i have already won.
Also if you are so bright, why did it take you so long to figure out why i havn't given you the name of the venue in Glasgow. Here's a hint:
It's annoying me now
hahahahahahaha you have lasted longer than the other two i give you that, but really you are out of your depth here. :-*
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I read that he tried to commit suicide and jumped out a window...your version makes more sense.
You from the UK ?? know the characters involved in this saga ??
Kerry-K was in 97/99 a fairly big player on the Manchester scene, he outed Paul not long after they fell out (of the window, LOLOLOLz)
Manchester's underground & the BB'ing scene were one & the same, door men/debt collectors/drug dealing, etc......
You need big lads around in these games ;)
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There are a few threads in the steroid section going back to 2006 on this guy.
Interesting person
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hahahahaha i clearly own your mind in every way possible.
Also if you are so bright, why did it take you so long to figure out why i havn't given you the name of the venue in Glasgow. Here's a hint:
hahahahahahaha you have lasted longer than the other two i give you that, but really you are out of your depth here. :-*
Has any-one seen the 'CGI' flick that is 'the Kung-Fu Panda' ?? you know the delusional character 'FP' - & the plot development of said film/character.
Just wondering, as there are an amazing number of boxes that this clown ticks for the real 'FP'
I am now wondering if he is a piss take, as he just responds to every-one in the same manner as the film version (FP) would ??? ??? ??? ??? ::)
How odd !!
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There are a few threads in the steroid section going back to 2006 on this guy.
Interesting person
Who - Paul - Kerry - surely not the fat Mulatto !! FFS.
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Panda, note that PT is still around, and that VL was canned by Da-Jew-Ron-Ron. For the crime of... er... um...
Why are you so preoccupied by the notion of 'owning' people? What gap does it fill? Were you wedgied each day at school, to within an inch of your life? Are there microscopic scraps of cotton from your Y-fronts (beige with brown trim) still lodged in your asspipe today, 20 years after the fact?
Or conversely, did you enjoy the aforementioned wedgies, going so far as to deliberately annoy the schoolyard bullies on a daily basis, thereby ensuring a good old shitter-flossing?
As for your fascination with owning, why not try out a synonymous phrase or two? Like maybe 'getting the better/best of', 'yanking the chain of' or perchance 'backing ____ into a corner' ?
Repetitiousness becomes wearying, and discourages further interest/reading.
And where was the wedding party? I think I know who you are, Dewd.
Apocalypse has just the one P.
DAMY :)
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another wannabe/charlatan.
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Paul Borresen's talent lay in being an accomplished conman, a latter-day snake oil salesman, if you will.
End of.
DAMY
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Panda, note that PT is still around, and that VL was canned by Da-Jew-Ron-Ron. For the crime of... er... um...
Why are you so preoccupied by the notion of 'owning' people? What gap does it fill? Were you wedgied each day at school, to within an inch of your life? Are there microscopic scraps of cotton from your Y-fronts (beige with brown trim) still lodged in your asspipe today, 20 years after the fact?
Or conversely, did you enjoy the aforementioned wedgies, going so far as to deliberately annoy the schoolyard bullies on a daily basis, thereby ensuring a good old shitter-flossing?
As for your fascination with owning, why not try out a synonymous phrase or two? Like maybe 'getting the better/best of', 'yanking the chain of' or perchance 'backing ____ into a corner' ?
Repetitiousness becomes wearying, and discourages further interest/reading.
And where was the wedding party? I think I know who you are, Dewd.
Apocalypse has just the one P.
DAMY :)
'DAMY' is getting warmed up - I will go get me 'Brown rice' on for this one ;D
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Paul Borresen's talent lay in being an accomplished conman, a latter-day snake oil salesman, if you will.
End of.
DAMY
Funny you say 'Snake oil' as he was defo on of the first people I ever heard of selling FAKE GEAR IN THE 'UK'.
No one got an infection - but no one grew either.
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Gonna take a break now, to watch Britain's Got Talent.
I heard FP's gonna feature this week, as The Human Bouncy Castle.
Get ready, kids!!!
DAMY
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Panda, note that PT is still around, and that VL was canned by Da-Jew-Ron-Ron. For the crime of... er... um...
Why are you so preoccupied by the notion of 'owning' people? What gap does it fill? Were you wedgied each day at school, to within an inch of your life? Are there microscopic scraps of cotton from your Y-fronts (beige with brown trim) still lodged in your asspipe today, 20 years after the fact?
Or conversely, did you enjoy the aforementioned wedgies, going so far as to deliberately annoy the schoolyard bullies on a daily basis, thereby ensuring a good old shitter-flossing?
As for your fascination with owning, why not try out a synonymous phrase or two? Like maybe 'getting the better/best of', 'yanking the chain of' or perchance 'backing ____ into a corner' ?
Repetitiousness becomes wearying, and discourages further interest/reading.
And where was the wedding party? I think I know who you are, Dewd.
Apocalypse has just the one P.
DAMY :)
hahaha MELTDOWN
you try far far too hard with these rambling posts.
also why are your insults the same as pillow biter and shirtlifter i.e. fatty, gay blah blah
pathetic attempts at an owning, perhaps that worked on the icke forum but not on getbig grandpa.
as for knowing who i am, you should - i have given pillow my address and you have my picture. What more do you want ? my social security number ::)
i think you are in fact a rampaging homo of the highest caliber.
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hahaha MELTDOWN
you try far far too hard with these rambling posts.
pathetic attempts at an owning, perhaps that worked on the icke forum but not on getbig grandpa.
These post were mono-chromatic 10 days ago.
They have now entered a new class of being - EPICLY-MONO-CHROMATIC- in theme
How many words does your vocabulary contain, FFS.
What was your user name over on 'Micks board' ??
Still post over there ??
'DAMY' has - NEVER - posted on Icke's board, WTF planet are you on dude ??
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These post were mono-chromatic 10 days ago.
They have now entered a new class of being - EPICLY-MONO-CHROMATIC- in theme
How many words does your vocabulary contain, FFS.
What was your user name over on 'Micks board' ??
Still post over there ??
'DAMY' has - NEVER - posted on Icke's board, WTF planet are you on dude ??
::)
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Is that an offer ??
I bet you tit's are big enough, that if it were dark, it could almost be convincing ;D
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Is that an offer ??
I bet you tit's are big enough, that if it were dark, it could almost be convincing ;D
don't get excited pillOWNED - you are beneath me in all aspects.
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don't get excited pillOWNED - you are beneath me in all aspects.
That is an ugly thought ::) not one I will linger on.
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You from UK pillowtalk?
You seem to know your stuff about the BB scene there
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= lack of understanding of the pharmacokinetics of various esters of Testosterone.
Winstrol is 'DHT' based 'Dyhrdra-Test' & is only really used to harden up a physique that is sub 9% BF.
Pharmacokinetics (in Greek: “pharmacon” meaning drug and “kinetikos” meaning putting in motion, the study of time dependency; sometimes abbreviated as “PK”) is a branch of pharmacology dedicated to the determination of the fate of substances administered externally to a living organism. In practice, this discipline is applied mainly to drug substances, though in principle it concerns itself with all manner of compounds ingested or otherwise delivered externally to an organism, such as nutrients, metabolites, hormones, toxins, etc.
Pharmacokinetics is often studied in conjunction with pharmacodynamics. Pharmacodynamics explores what a drug does to the body, whereas pharmacokinetics explores what the body does to the drug. Pharmacokinetics includes the study of the mechanisms of absorption & distribution of an administered drug, the rate at which a drug action begins and the duration of the effect, the chemical changes of the substance in the body (e.g. by enzymes) and the effects and routes of excretion of the metabolites of the drug.
i have no idea what you wanted to say with this post.
it certainly doesnt answer the question i posed to you.
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You from the UK ?? know the characters involved in this saga ??
Kerry-K was in 97/99 a fairly big player on the Manchester scene, he outed Paul not long after they fell out (of the window, LOLOLOLz)
Manchester's underground & the BB'ing scene were one & the same, door men/debt collectors/drug dealing, etc......
You need big lads around in these games ;)
Some say he jumped, others say he fell, others say he was helped, and still others say he was helped out the window by Kerry Kayes etc: p
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Kerry Kayes isn't and wasn't big enough to throw a big guy out of a window. Not alone, at any rate.
Do the likes of him do their own dirty work anyway?
Only when under stress or when sense is overtaken by ego.
DAMY
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i have no idea what you wanted to say with this post.
it certainly doesnt answer the question i posed to you.
I guess that failure to understand the science involved in 'Pharmacokinetics' would leave you feeling this way.
Oh &, you didn't ask me any questions ??? ???
What is with this fucking Bob Marly avatar ?? how many others of you are there ??
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Kerry Kayes isn'tand wasn't big enough to throw a big guy out of a window. Not alone, at any rate.
Do the likes of him do their own dirty work anyway?
Only when under stress or when sense is overtaken by ego.
DAMY
He might have had 'John Hodgson' help him, but then, John would not have been able to reach the window, so that can't be it either ??? ???
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You from UK pillowtalk?
You seem to know your stuff about the BB scene there
Indeed, some of the time I reside in London.
Although, I doubt for much longer shall I be reachable in the 'EU' ;D
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i found it on google some time ago and saved it. I was recently looking through my pc for an article and came across it, and thought it was funny.
i'm 31.
Oi -Teddy bear.
What do you do for a living ??
& what hospital were you born in. ???
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I guess that failure to understand the science involved in 'Pharmacokinetics' would leave you feeling this way.
Oh &, you didn't ask me any questions ??? ???
What is with this fucking Bob Marly avatar ?? how many others of you are there ??
im not an expert, but i understand pharmacokinetics pretty well.
disco_stu said that you cannot compare to steroids mg for mg to assess whch one is stronger than the other.this guy's a tool.
i love the part where he bags people for not knowing basic pharmacology yet his argument that anadrol "must be weak" is because it comes in 50mg tabs. ::)
what a moron.
its no wonder people dont "get it"...its because theres nothing to get.
a certain milligram dosage of a drug is related only to how it works physiologically. one dosage cant be compared directly to another!...lol...
i stopped reading right there when i realised this guy has been schooled by the underground.
so i posed the question =
are you implying that =
dbol is stronger than winstrol because 50 mg of dbol produces gains while 50mg of winstrol doesnt
is flawed arguiment?
you provided no answer as to how you felt on that issue.
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Indeed, some of the time I reside in London.
Although, I doubt for much longer shall I be reachable in the 'EU' ;D
Dunno wot d fuck dat means man haha
Maybe your goin on the run,I planned doin same thing recently but things straightened demselves out
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FatPandemic!
How long have you been working out, all in?
DAMY
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im not an expert, but i understand pharmacokinetics pretty well.
disco_stu said that you cannot compare to steroids mg for mg to assess whch one is stronger than the other.
so i posed the question =
you provided no answer as to how you felt on that issue.
Winstrol is Dy-hydra-testosterone based.
Methandrostenolone, or Dbol are not,Chemical Structure: 17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-1,4-androstadien-3-one, thus you will get better gains with Dbol Mg for mg - not that I would use either 'TBH' unless sub 8% (Winny) for 4 weeks max.
Hence the 'Pharmacokinetics' explanation.
You see when you talk these things through, they become a little clearer don't they ??
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Dunno wot d fuck dat means man haha
Maybe your goin on the run,I planned doin same thing recently but things straightened demselves out
My running from the law days are long gone bro ;)
I got my house spun last year (Oct) & they walked away empty handed, LOLOLOLOLz.
More to do with income based discussions, rather than a custodial evasion.
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Winstrol is Dy-hydra-testosterone based.
Methandrostenolone, or Dbol are not,Chemical Structure: 17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-1,4-androstadien-3-one, thus you will get better gains with Dbol Mg for mg - not that I would use either 'TBH' unless sub 8% (Winny) for 4 weeks max.
Hence the 'Pharmacokinetics' explanation.
You see when you talk these things through, they become a little clearer don't they ??
you still didnt answer my question. dbol isnt better because its test baseed and winny is dht based. its better because....ITS BETTER! it signals through the AR DIFFERENT THINGS THAN WINNY AND WHATEVER THOSE THINGS ARE, THEY RESULT IN BETTER GAINS. NOT TO MENTION THE AROMATIZATION WHICH ALSO MAKES IT SUPERIOR.
didnt mean for that to be in caps.
the base of a steroid really doesnt mean anything at all except to let chemists know its molecular structure. certain test based steroids could possess much more "dht" like effects than certain dht based steroids.
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So you do 200mg of D-bol ED.
I will do 200mg (4x50mg amps) ED.
Who is going to gain more 'LBM' ??
I thought you understood 'pharmacokinetics' ??
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So you do 200mg of D-bol ED.
I will do 200mg (4x50mg amps) ED.
Who is going to gain more 'LBM' ??
I thought you understood 'pharmacokinetics' ??
are you asking which will provide more gains....200mg oral dbol vs 200mg injectable dbol?
what does that have to do with anythign discussed earlier?
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are you implying that =
dbol is stronger than winstrol because 50 mg of dbol produces gains while 50mg of winstrol doesnt
is flawed arguiment?
FFS, did you - or did you not, ask the difference between two compounds ??
You are getting tire-some dude.
Put it to bed, FFS
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FFS, did you - or did you not, ask the difference between two compounds ??
i never asked you the difference between two compounds.
i asked you whether or not you thought this argument =
dbol is stronger than winstrol because 50nmg of dbol produces more gains than 50mg of winstrol.
was valid?
Disco stu said you cant compare strength by comparing mg for mg effectiveness.
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There is a reason why Paul Borresen is dead and its because he had a drug problem. His Biohazard products were garbage.
At least Trevor's Nuclear Nutrition was high grade
The protein products in the Biohazrd range were top quality, they were manufactured by Cambridge Foods Ltd.
How was Paul Borresen able to afford such companies to manufacture his products using the finest ingredients?
easy, he never paid them, preferring instead to fleece them for about £80,000 worth of stock.
As always Vince, you reveal yourself as quite the cock hungry, ignorant negro.
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Looking forward to seeing what you present onstage Vince. I mean that in the best way possible. :D
What I won't be presenting is a repeat of 2004 or 2006. I'm beyond that and now I'm going for the win.
5 years of shit is coming to an end....err at least some of it since trolls will always be around
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I think you will find that it was 'Kerry Kayes' that got fucked off & sent a crew round.
He was sposed to get more than a broken back, the way I heard it, but he wasn't moving so he was presumed dead.
Looks a bit sus to the 'Pig's' if he falls out another window a week later though.
maybe the 'OD' wasn't, we will never know.
He made some spectacular enemies in his time, very nasty lads some of em. ::)
No wonder he is fucking dead, fucking retard ;D
yeah, i thought it was when Kerry and Dorian were partners. i read alot of Borresen articles a decade ago. actually an inspiring writer, AKA self promoting BSer. sticky hands ( an addiction metaphor i think) and several other articles were well written. i had printed most of them, but not sure where they now are.
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are you implying that =
dbol is stronger than winstrol because 50 mg of dbol produces gains while 50mg of winstrol doesnt
is flawed arguiment?
absolutely its a flawed argument. its poo in fact. The reason dbol works better at building muscle is because its dbol...
there is no correlation between drug strengths and effectiveness.
just because a certain drug needs 2mg and another needs 500mg doesnt mean one is "stronger" than the other.
what it means is that, in order to get the therapeutic effect, that dosage is required.
drugs work in different ways, and act on different mechanisms in the body.
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What I won't be presenting is a repeat of 2004 or 2006. I'm beyond that and now I'm going for the win.
5 years of shit is coming to an end....err at least some of it since trolls will always be around
TBH Vince, you have improved, I'll give you that credit.
Bigger arms for sure, still need to dial in that condition that you always mess up.
But yeah, not bad improvements.
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TBH Vince, you have improved, I'll give you that credit.
Bigger arms for sure, still need to dial in that condition that you always mess up.
But yeah, not bad improvements.
I was lying out in the sun at the lake so I was pretty well dehydrated when I took those shots but they turned out pretty good. My arms are actually down a half inch but they look bigger because I brought up my deltoids and lats to where the improve the overall pose
I'm definitely not ready for the stage now but I will be in June when I've put on the finishing touches. I'm just 5 weeks and 200 miles away from doing it again....
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The protein products in the Biohazrd range were top quality, they were manufactured by Cambridge Foods Ltd.
How was Paul Borresen able to afford such companies to manufacture his products using the finest ingredients?
easy, he never paid them, preferring instead to fleece them for about £80,000 worth of stock.
As always Vince, you reveal yourself as quite the cock hungry, ignorant negro.
Borresen's formulations were cheap and crude which is why it did poorly when he was running it. Its now ran by Gary Howell and he's restored the company beyond what Paul would have ever done.
Either way, Paul was on a death run because he had one hell of a substance abuse problem and he pretty did the same thing Jeff Summers from steroids.com did
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Borresen's formulations were cheap and crude which is why it did poorly when he was running it. Its now ran by Gary Howell and he's restored the company beyond what Paul would have ever done.
Either way, Paul was on a death run because he had one hell of a substance abuse problem and he pretty did the same thing Jeff Summers from steroids.com did
No Vince, they were manufactured by Cambridge Manufacturing, one of the largest such companies in the UK.
The formulations were designed by Borresen, Dougie Black and one of the consultants at Cambridge, that is fact.
They ripped off Cambridge prior to waltzing of into the sunset with nearly six figures worth of stock.
Paul was a slag with a drug addiction though, it killed him, that much is correct.
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sounds like pillowtalk knows a lot maybe he needs to get interrogated or water boarded about this subject or keep his mouth shut.
jt
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sounds like pillowtalk knows a lot maybe he needs to get interrogated or water boarded about this subject or keep his mouth shut.
jt
Talking about shut mouths; do you recall those PMs you sent me asking me to post racist material for you because you were too shitless to do it yourself didnt want to get timed out?
I did laugh when you were timed out the other week.
LOLz
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LOL!
OUCHEE!
DAMY
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Talking about shut mouths; do you recall those PMs you sent me asking me to post racist material for you because you were too shitless to do it yourself didnt want to get timed out?
I did laugh when you were timed out the other week.
LOLz
wbhahahahhahhwhhahwhhwah hwahhhahwhwhhabvawhhawhw haw that was long ago boy, keep your mouth shut or go in timeout again, seems you have a problem with that though since you needed to start a new gimmick, gscacco.
jt
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Oi -Teddy bear.
What do you do for a living ??
& what hospital were you born in. ???
i'm a hitman, i have the highest executive kill rate in china ::)
i wasn't born i have always been here.
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FatPandemic!
How long have you been working out, all in?
DAMY
hahahaha you 2 are quite the stalkers.
you have my address any time you 2 weirdo's want to meet just pop in.
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sounds like pillowtalk knows a lot maybe he needs to get interrogated or water boarded about this subject or keep his mouth shut.
jt
How about you come round & start the interrogation.
See how long it takes to make me give any-thing but 'name & number' ;D
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i wasn't born i have always been here.
I have connections in 'private security' (among others) & 'PI' guys, all ex-military.
Was it = Southern General Hospital ?? :'( :'(
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I have connections in 'private security' (among others) & 'PI' guys, all ex-military.
Was it = Southern General Hospital ?? :'( :'(
why don't you meet me at my house and i'll show you exactly which hospital i was born.
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i'm a hitman, i have the highest executive kill rate in china ::)
You could not run for a bus, so how could you tap out of the Kill zone (once compromised), you would not even get your first job done, & the $$ in the safe !! LOLOLOLz.
'BTW' China is the worst place in the world for this kind of work, capital punishment, oh, & they would sell your internal organs on the open market.
But as they are all engulfed in 3 inches of 'Hydrogenated fat' - they would just get binned along with the veterinary waste (Euthanized animals)
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why don't you meet me at my house and i'll show you exactly which hospital i was born.
You will never hear/see me.
I don;t ring the door bell, twat.
You live in a James Bond movie (in your head).
Watch the film 'Kung-fu panda' & see the similarities you share. ::)
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You could not run for a bus, so how could you tap out of the Kill zone (once compromised), you would not even get your first job done, & the $$ in the safe !! LOLOLOLz.
'BTW' China is the worst place in the world for this kind of work, capital punishment, oh, & they would sell your internal organs on the open market.
But as they are all engulfed in 3 inches of 'Hydrogenated fat' - they would just get binned along with the veterinary waste (Euthanized animals)
::) here's a pic of me last week when i was 'on the job'
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You will never hear/see me.
I don;t ring the door bell, twat.
You live in a James Bond movie (in your head).
Watch the film 'Kung-fu panda' & see the similarities you share. ::)
hahaha i know i wont see or hear you because you are a liar and a coward ::)
i really really hope you have hired a pi to track me down.
the look on your face when he gives you the same address i already gave you would be priceless.
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hahaha i know i wont see or hear you because you are a liar and a coward ::)
i really really hope you have hired a pi to track me down.
the look on your face when he gives you the same address i already gave you would be priceless.
Now back to 'Coventry' with you I just thought it would be fun to play with you, as a Cat does with a Bird it has disabled for a few posts.
I am done now, so, with as much haste as your Obese frame (30% BF, yeah right, & the rest) can muster - FUCK OFF - TARD. :-* :'( :'( :'( :'(
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Now back to 'Coventry' with you I just thought it would be fun to play with you, as a Cat does with a Bird it has disabled for a few posts.
I am done now, so, with as much haste as your Obese frame (30% BF, yeah right, & the rest) can muster - FUCK OFF - TARD. :-* :'( :'( :'( :'(
hahahahaha MELTDOWN
pillowned again ;D
(http://notexactlyrocketscience.files.wordpress.com/2006/08/nuclear_fireball.jpg)
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FFS Panda, you hypersensitive gonk.
You want me to talk BB? Okay, here we go.
Let's talk about our gear usage and dosages.
Are you 'clean' or have you allowed yerself the odd gear cycle?
If the latter, what have you done? Intramuscular or orals?
Serious question, I'd like an answer, not some more rib-poking, if you please.
DAMY
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Panda, have you allowed yerself the odd gear cycle?
DAMY
Organon: LARD250
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Organon: LARD250
haha
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haha
hahahahahahahahahahaha owned yourself again veteran_shirtlifter.
did you forget which gimmick you signed in as to laugh at your own pathetic joke hahahahahahaha
kill yourself, you will NEVER challenge me in any way.
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hahahahahahahahahahaha owned yourself again veteran_shirtlifter.
did you forget which gimmick you signed in as to laugh at your own pathetic joke hahahahahahaha
kill yourself, you will NEVER challenge me in any way.
I know, NEVER NEVER NEVER!!
Ah, youve got me... ;)
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I know, NEVER NEVER NEVER!!
Ah, youve got me AGAIN... ;)
fixed