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I know somebody here probably wanted to post this, so I'll get it started :D
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yes
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I knew you were itching to push the New Topic button on this ;D
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lol been kinda busy.
I would have made this thread :D
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Wasn't SARS suppose to kill us all? ::)
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Wasn't SARS suppose to kill us all? ::)
The Chinese thought so :D
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It is.
100,000+ people die some years due to hospital errors. 20 cases of swine flu are really no big deal in comparison to drunk driving, most cancers, overeating, diabetes, child abuse, hangnails, etc...
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It is.
100,000+ people die some years due to hospital errors. 20 cases of swine flu are really no big deal in comparison to drunk driving, most cancers, overeating, diabetes, child abuse, hangnails, etc...
it's to early to tell and there is not good data on the numbers infected verses deaths. As of this morning they are now reporting 100 deaths in Mexico. The number of infected is unknown. It could turn into a bigger killer than the regular influenza we see each year or not. The only thing that's pretty for sure at this point is that it will hit the 20 to 45 age range harder where they've previously warned older, sick and the very young on strains.
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Reading the other thread, some people seemed to be pretty freaked out over this.
I think its too early to make sweeping conclusions.
I agree with Hugo.
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Reading the other thread, some people seemed to be pretty freaked out over this.
I think its too early to make sweeping conclusions.
I agree with Hugo.
I already have all my supplies that Lurker laughed at me about months ago for getting.
I am prepared for almost anything short of a nuclear bomb hitting NYC.
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The Chinese thought so :D
CDC as well. :D
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It's the pigs way of "testing" Obama. It was the same "test" that Joe Biden suggested Obama would be met with.
Obama failed. The pigs won. And the tea parties were a success.
Welcome to Fantasy-Land.
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It's the pigs way of "testing" Obama. It was the same "test" that Joe Biden suggested Obama would be met with.
Obama failed. The pigs won. And the tea parties were a success.
Welcome to Fantasy-Land.
lol
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It's the pigs way of "testing" Obama. It was the same "test" that Joe Biden suggested Obama would be met with.
Obama failed. The pigs won. And the tea parties were a success.
Welcome to Fantasy-Land.
lulz
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It's the pigs way of "testing" Obama. It was the same "test" that Joe Biden suggested Obama would be met with.
Obama failed. The pigs won. And the tea parties were a success.
Welcome to Fantasy-Land.
Hahahaaaa! ;D
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A distraction from what?
That said, it's grossly overblown IMO. About 36,000 people die from the flu every year. We've had 1 apparently confirmed death so far.
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Not sure how valid the ad is at the end. Silver has anti-bacterial properties, not an antiviral. :-\
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holy shit
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Not sure how valid the ad is at the end. Silver has anti-bacterial properties, not an antiviral. :-\
Silver is actually a very good anti-viral. It was once heavily used to treat people who suffered severe burns. While the patient may have survived the burns, what often killed them was the infections from bacteria and viruses as the burned skin could no longer protect the person from such. The silver treatment was low cost and extremely effective...then came anti-biotics and silver treatments were essentially tossed out the window for the sake of drugs which unlike silver had/have horrendous side effects. You may hear on some talk shows and naturalpath discussions the use of colloidal silver for infections. What Horowitz product sounds like is just a new or better delivery form of the same product...I will have to investigate it.
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I mentioned this before and maybe it is worth mentioning again...
The doctor speaking is Leonard Horowitz who wrote a book called EMERGING VIRUSES: AIDS AND EBOLA where he tells at length how government, military and scientist have created just about every single virus over the past forty years as BIOWEAPONS. Everythig from AIDS, HEPATITIS, EBOLA, WEST NILE, HERPES, new versions of SYPHYLLIS, GONNARHEA, BIRD FLU, AVIAN FLU, CHICKEN FLU, etc etc..now SWINE FLU. He also speaks at length about the horrendous effects of VACCINES which have been responsible for a wealth of medical problems from BELLS PALSEY TO AUTISM.
These viruses and vaccines are all FRANKENSTEIN creations which at some point will actually WORK and kill millions. His book is very interesting and revealing..It is thick, but more than worth reading.
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Silver is actually a very good anti-viral. It was once heavily used to treat people who suffered severe burns. While the patient may have survived the burns, what often killed them was the infections from bacteria and viruses as the burned skin could no longer protect the person from such. The silver treatment was low cost and extremely effective...then came anti-biotics and silver treatments were essentially tossed out the window for the sake of drugs which unlike silver had/have horrendous side effects. You may hear on some talk shows and naturalpath discussions the use of colloidal silver for infections. What Horowitz product sounds like is just a new or better delivery form of the same product...I will have to investigate it.
Really?! :o
I've always considered silver to be a good anti-bacterial. I've consumed colloidial silver for years (colloidial gold too when I can get it, but it's sooo hard to get). I use silver cutlery, goblets etc., but I didn't know silver had an effect on viruses. I'll have to check into that.
btw: It took me a while to realize this Horowitz guy was actually serious. He looks mildly ...um... affected fwoabw
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I've asked Horowitz to provide some of the documents he notes as proof especially the accusation against this robertson talking about priming populations with viral releases. I gotta check some of this out to see if it's legit. hopefully he replies.
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I know somebody here probably wanted to post this, so I'll get it started :D
I'd say so. More people died of the traditional flu this week than swine flu.
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Really?! :o
I've always considered silver to be a good anti-bacterial. I've consumed colloidial silver for years (colloidial gold too when I can get it, but it's sooo hard to get). I use silver cutlery, goblets etc., but I didn't know silver had an effect on viruses. I'll have to check into that.
btw: It took me a while to realize this Horowitz guy was actually serious. He looks mildly ...um... affected fwoabw
hahahaha..Yeah I will have to admit there is a umm..'unseriousness' in his demeanor which comes across more like a comedian...listening to him makes you think that at any moment he is going to either burst out laughing or he is about to tell some jokes...
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Really?! :o
I've always considered silver to be a good anti-bacterial. I've consumed colloidial silver for years (colloidial gold too when I can get it, but it's sooo hard to get). I use silver cutlery, goblets etc., but I didn't know silver had an effect on viruses. I'll have to check into that.
btw: It took me a while to realize this Horowitz guy was actually serious. He looks mildly ...um... affected fwoabw
I found a little bit of info on the Colloidal Silver issue...you can google it and find pages of articles and references to its effectiveness, Here is one page that gives some good history on colloidal silver and its uses since the early thirties notice that silver works on all manner of bacteria, viruses andpathogens whereas most antibiotics and viral drugs work on just a few...
http://www.all-natural.com/silver-1.html
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A excellent video to watch of Leonard horowitz about the BIOTERRORISM of america. He covers a lot in this video, so watch it all and be ready to take notes.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8674401787208020885&hl=en
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I've asked Horowitz to provide some of the documents he notes as proof especially the accusation against this robertson talking about priming populations with viral releases. I gotta check some of this out to see if it's legit. hopefully he replies.
This guy will run rings around anyone questioning his credentials or legitimacy...He has been speaking on the bioterrorism, genetic engineering of diseases topic for years now and has many degrees from universities like Harvard, Yale and Princeton. He has nothing to gain by providing false info, but he has a lot to lose as I am sure he is not looked kindly upon by the military or government who would ratehr see him "SILENCED" on speaking about these matters. Watch the video i posted which exposes just some of the information he has been speaking on for years. Ther eis another video that I have that I have that I can't seem to find online that is much better than the one I posted. I am going to keep looking and will post it if I find it.
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This is not the video i was looking for, but it does contain a lot f the information that was contained in the other video I was looking for...
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This guy will run rings around anyone questioning his credentials or legitimacy...He has been speaking on the bioterrorism, genetic engineering of diseases topic for years now and has many degrees from universities like Harvard, Yale and Princeton. He has nothing to gain by providing false info, but he has a lot to lose as I am sure he is not looked kindly upon by the military or government who would ratehr see him "SILENCED" on speaking about these matters. Watch the video i posted which exposes just some of the information he has been speaking on for years. Ther eis another video that I have that I have that I can't seem to find online that is much better than the one I posted. I am going to keep looking and will post it if I find it.
I didn't question his credentials or legitimacy, I just wanted to review the material he mentioned. That's Ozmo that'll do that, if he even cares, as soon as he finds out that he's a dentist, he'll be all over it. I was actually pretty polite and explained why it would be beneficial to post the material in question for everyone to see. You keep misinterpreting things people say.
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I didn't question his credentials or legitimacy, I just wanted to review the material he mentioned. That's Ozmo that'll do that, if he even cares, as soon as he finds out that he's a dentist, he'll be all over it. I was actually pretty polite and explained why it would be beneficial to post the material in question for everyone to see. You keep misinterpreting things people say.
I am not mis-interpreting anything...and I did not see your comment as being disrespectful..
You said
I've asked Horowitz to provide some of the documents he notes as proof especially the accusation against this robertson talking about priming populations with viral releases. I gotta check some of this out to see if it's legit. hopefully he replies.
The "see if it is legit" rings of distrust for what Horowitz is saying and information he is presenting...which is why I responded to let you know this Dr. researches EVERYTHING even investigations and work presented to him by others researchers... and would run rings around anyone questioning his credentials or legitimacy (that is not aimed at you...which is where I think the problem starts), so he would have nothing to gain by providing false/incorrect information or making claims for or against other researchers unless it was true. In short he makes sure what he has said (be it his research or the research of others) is backed up by facts.
If you look at his other videos (youtube and yahoo have a number of them) you will see he has been speaking on these issues for some years now (his hair has gone from black to greying and you can see some aging to his face) and what i like is the fact that he has the documents from the government, military, research centers, bio labs etc etc which shows that this is not just his opinion, but is based on FACT.
I said this before and I will recant it...Read his book EMERGING VIRUSES...it is thick and it presents everything and all sources and proof to what he is saying. Given all that is happening I can't see why people doubt the fact that the military of america, those so called research centers, military bases, the universities and hospitals are all complicit in the creation of much of the illnesses in america. I have always questioned how is it a pharmaceutical company can make a vaccine to a flu that does not even exist yet and in under a year make the vaccine, run human trial, get FDA approval and dispense it to millions of people...HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE??? Vaccines take years to create, BILLION in cost and the approval process can take decades in some cases. When Horowitz says Robertson said the public has been primed for viral infections I don't question it...WHY??? becasue those same flu shots are not flu shots (for the reasons just mentioned) so what EXACTLY has these agencies like Red Cross, Hospitals and clinics been injecting people with all of these years? The Baxter company which manufactures vaccines was recently implicated for sending out vaccines tainted with the H5N1 viruse and various other "human" flu viruses...read the article here http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20090227/Bird_Flu_090227 This is no accident....this is DELIBERATE...the public is being primed...but for what? I am not sure, but it could be as Horowitz says, to weaken the publics immuns system so that when a man made or natural virus does emerge everyones immune system will be too weak to defend the person. Type in (baxter, contaminated vaccines) into google and see the results; or type in(contaminated vaccines) to see the results of many comapnies that have innoculated people with tainted vacccines.
AMERICAN PHARMACEUTICALS ARE USING THE WORLD AS GUINEA PIGS....
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I am not mis-interpreting anything...and I did not see your comment as being disrespectful..
You said
The "see if it is legit" rings of distrust for what Horowitz is saying and information he is presenting...which is why I responded to let you know this Dr. researches EVERYTHING even investigations and work presented to him by others researchers... and would run rings around anyone questioning his credentials or legitimacy (that is not aimed at you...which is where I think the problem starts), so he would have nothing to gain by providing false/incorrect information or making claims for or against other researchers unless it was true. In short he makes sure what he has said (be it his research or the research of others) is backed up by facts.
If you look at his other videos (youtube and yahoo have a number of them) you will see he has been speaking on these issues for some years now (his hair has gone from black to greying and you can see some aging to his face) and what i like is the fact that he has the documents from the government, military, research centers, bio labs etc etc which shows that this is not just his opinion, but is based on FACT.
I said this before and I will recant it...Read his book EMERGING VIRUSES...it is thick and it presents everything and all sources and proof to what he is saying. Given all that is happening I can't see why people doubt the fact that the military of america, those so called research centers, military bases, the universities and hospitals are all complicit in the creation of much of the illnesses in america. I have always questioned how is it a pharmaceutical company can make a vaccine to a flu that does not even exist yet and in under a year make the vaccine, run human trial, get FDA approval and dispense it to millions of people...HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE??? Vaccines take years to create, BILLION in cost and the approval process can take decades in some cases. When Horowitz says Robertson said the public has been primed for viral infections I don't question it...WHY??? becasue those same flu shots are not flu shots (for the reasons just mentioned) so what EXACTLY has these agencies like Red Cross, Hospitals and clinics been injecting people with all of these years? The Baxter company which manufactures vaccines was recently implicated for sending out vaccines tainted with the H5N1 viruse and various other "human" flu viruses...read the article here http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20090227/Bird_Flu_090227 This is no accident....this is DELIBERATE...the public is being primed...but for what? I am not sure, but it could be as Horowitz says, to weaken the publics immuns system so that when a man made or natural virus does emerge everyones immune system will be too weak to defend the person. Type in (baxter, contaminated vaccines) into google and see the results; or type in(contaminated vaccines) to see the results of many comapnies that have innoculated people with tainted vacccines.
AMERICAN PHARMACEUTICALS ARE USING THE WORLD AS GUINEA PIGS....
No ::) I do that with everything and everyone especially where accusations are made, you're not going to get far debating shit with anybody unless you look into things yourself and that doesn't mean I'm questioning their integrity or distrust what they said or their background or anything else. Sometimes you even end up finding angles not originally revealed by checking someone's story. Absolutely nothing wrong with doublechecking people without it being an accusation. You can then go into an agrument where someone says, yea but he's just in it to sell something or some shit like that and you can say, guess what, I checked out all of the material and it's LEGIT and then provide your check on the material. And even that won't be good enough for the Skeptic's Skeptic like Ozmo.
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No ::) I do that with everything and everyone especially where accusations are made, you're not going to get far debating shit with anybody unless you look into things yourself and that doesn't mean I'm questioning their integrity or distrust what they said or their background or anything else. Sometimes you even end up finding angles not originally revealed by checking someone's story. Absolutely nothing wrong with doublechecking people without it being an accusation. You can then go into an agrument where someone says, yea but he's just in it to sell something or some shit like that and you can say, guess what, I checked out all of the material and it's LEGIT and then provide your check on the material. And even that won't be good enough for the Skeptic's Skeptic like Ozmo.
Or you could let emotion dictate common sense by looking at things as you want them to be instead of as they are.
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What are we being distracted from?
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Or you could let emotion dictate common sense by looking at things as you want them to be instead of as they are.
I know you do that but if I noted all the things you do in this area the post may have gotten epic long :)
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What are we being distracted from?
what's important. for that you might get quite a few different answers depending on who you're talking with.
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what's important. for that you might get quite a few different answers depending on who you're talking with.
Specifically? Who is trying to distract us from what, and for what purpose? I keep hearing that question being asked on the board, but I don't know precisely what folks are talking about.
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Specifically? Who is trying to distract us from what, and for what purpose? I keep hearing that question being asked on the board, but I don't know precisely what folks are talking about.
why not ask the person who's asking the question :)
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why not ask the person who's asking the question :)
I'm asking anyone who wants to answer.
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I'm asking anyone who wants to answer.
are you looking for a list of conspirators?
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are you looking for a list of conspirators?
I have no idea. Is there a conspiracy? I just asked for specifics:
Specifically? Who is trying to distract us from what, and for what purpose? I keep hearing that question being asked on the board, but I don't know precisely what folks are talking about.
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I have no idea. Is there a conspiracy? I just asked for specifics:
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(http://imagechan.com/images/b8580722cfb3a6f85de5b6320f111c2b.jpg)
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I know you do that but if I noted all the things you do in this area the post may have gotten epic long :)
Not as long as your wild notions of fancy my friend ;)
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Specifically? Who is trying to distract us from what, and for what purpose? I keep hearing that question being asked on the board, but I don't know precisely what folks are talking about.
Answer: They are.
Who?
Answer: Them.
Why?
Answer: So you don't notice what they are doing.
What are they doing?
Answer: I don't know, I'm too distracted by this swine flu thing to figure it out.
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(http://imagechan.com/images/b8580722cfb3a6f85de5b6320f111c2b.jpg)
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LMAO!!
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Not as long as your wild notions of fancy my friend ;)
oh please ::) As if I'm one who believes in just any conspiracy. At least I go to some lengths in researching things before I make an absolute determination. We have some people here that believe everything sinister so don't try to make me sound like one of those guys. At least I actually make contacts and do research to try and find out. Some skeptics just read 1/3 of a book and call it good ;)
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oh please ::) As if I'm one who believes in just any conspiracy. At least I go to some lengths in researching things before I make an absolute determination. We have some people here that believe everything sinister so don't try to make me sound like one of those guys. At least I actually make contacts and do research to try and find out. Some skeptics just read 1/3 of a book and call it good ;)
Nah man, you are right. That's unfair. You are not one of those who believe anything and jump to conclusions as if it was exercise. That's why I ;) But i will tell you this, a Skeptic's skeptic wouldn't believe in God, UFO's, Bush crimes, karma, etc... I'm skeptical when it comes to certain things, but I am far from being a skeptic.
That being, said, the 1/3 i have read is great and straight forward. You should break down and get it yourself. I think there's a condensed version available. In the future, if it happens that someone brings up more arguments about JFK I'm sure I'll read the areas relevant to it and likely search out other sources. Until then....... I'll book surf.
BTW I heard about a new article in Rolling stone about massive scandals, pay offs, etc.. with the Bush administration and the bureau of land management. Or something like that. You know anything about it?
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Nah man, you are right. That's unfair. You are not one of those who believe anything and jump to conclusions as if it was exercise. That's why I ;) But i will tell you this, a Skeptic's skeptic wouldn't believe in God, UFO's, Bush crimes, karma, etc... I'm skeptical when it comes to certain things, but I am far from being a skeptic.
That being, said, the 1/3 i have read is great and straight forward. You should break down and get it yourself. I think there's a condensed version available. In the future, if it happens that someone brings up more arguments about JFK I'm sure I'll read the areas relevant to it and likely search out other sources. Until then....... I'll book surf.
BTW I heard about a new article in Rolling stone about massive scandals, pay offs, etc.. with the Bush administration and the bureau of land management. Or something like that. You know anything about it?
ok, i'll admit skeptic's skeptic wasn't fair ;D
I haven't seen anything on the BLM story. I let my subscription go a few years back.
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Answer: They are.
Who?
Answer: Them.
Why?
Answer: So you don't notice what they are doing.
What are they doing?
Answer: I don't know, I'm too distracted by this swine flu thing to figure it out.
lol. That about sums it up.
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lol. That about sums it up.
what, you didn't like my video :D
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what, you didn't like my video :D
I made it through about 90 seconds. :)
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I made it through about 90 seconds. :)
more than I expect actually :D