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Re: Is the Swine Flu another distraction?
« Reply #25 on: April 30, 2009, 02:05:48 AM »
Really?!  :o

I've always considered silver to be a good anti-bacterial. I've consumed colloidial silver for years (colloidial gold too when I can get it, but it's sooo hard to get). I use silver cutlery, goblets etc., but I didn't know silver had an effect on viruses. I'll have to check into that.

btw: It took me a while to realize this Horowitz guy was actually serious. He looks mildly ...um... affected fwoabw

I found  a little bit of info on the Colloidal Silver issue...you can google it and find pages of articles and references to its effectiveness, Here is one page that gives some good history on colloidal silver and its uses since the early thirties notice that silver works on all manner of bacteria, viruses andpathogens whereas most antibiotics and viral drugs work on just a few...

http://www.all-natural.com/silver-1.html
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Re: Is the Swine Flu another distraction?
« Reply #26 on: April 30, 2009, 03:02:30 AM »
A excellent video to watch of Leonard horowitz about the BIOTERRORISM of america. He covers a lot in this video, so watch it all and be ready to take notes.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8674401787208020885&hl=en
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Re: Is the Swine Flu another distraction?
« Reply #27 on: April 30, 2009, 03:10:58 AM »
I've asked Horowitz to provide some of the documents he notes as proof especially the accusation against this robertson talking about priming populations with viral releases.  I gotta check some of this out to see if it's legit.  hopefully he replies.

This guy will run rings around anyone questioning his credentials or legitimacy...He has been speaking on the bioterrorism, genetic engineering of diseases topic for years now and has many degrees from universities like Harvard, Yale and Princeton. He has nothing to gain by providing false info, but he has a lot to lose as I am sure he is not looked kindly upon by the military or government who would ratehr see him "SILENCED" on speaking about these matters. Watch the video i posted which exposes just some of the information he has been speaking on for years. Ther eis another video that I have that I have that I can't seem to find online that is much better than the one I posted. I am going to keep looking and will post it if I find it.
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Re: Is the Swine Flu another distraction?
« Reply #28 on: April 30, 2009, 03:25:12 AM »
This is not the video i was looking for, but it does contain a lot f the information that was contained in the other video I was looking for...













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Re: Is the Swine Flu another distraction?
« Reply #29 on: April 30, 2009, 09:47:01 AM »
This guy will run rings around anyone questioning his credentials or legitimacy...He has been speaking on the bioterrorism, genetic engineering of diseases topic for years now and has many degrees from universities like Harvard, Yale and Princeton. He has nothing to gain by providing false info, but he has a lot to lose as I am sure he is not looked kindly upon by the military or government who would ratehr see him "SILENCED" on speaking about these matters. Watch the video i posted which exposes just some of the information he has been speaking on for years. Ther eis another video that I have that I have that I can't seem to find online that is much better than the one I posted. I am going to keep looking and will post it if I find it.
I didn't question his credentials or legitimacy, I just wanted to review the material he mentioned.  That's Ozmo that'll do that, if he even cares, as soon as he finds out that he's a dentist, he'll be all over it.  I was actually pretty polite and explained why it would be beneficial to post the material in question for everyone to see.  You keep misinterpreting things people say.

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Re: Is the Swine Flu another distraction?
« Reply #30 on: April 30, 2009, 02:06:06 PM »
I didn't question his credentials or legitimacy, I just wanted to review the material he mentioned.  That's Ozmo that'll do that, if he even cares, as soon as he finds out that he's a dentist, he'll be all over it.  I was actually pretty polite and explained why it would be beneficial to post the material in question for everyone to see.  You keep misinterpreting things people say.

I am not mis-interpreting anything...and I did not see your comment as being disrespectful..

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I've asked Horowitz to provide some of the documents he notes as proof especially the accusation against this robertson talking about priming populations with viral releases.  I gotta check some of this out to see if it's legit.  hopefully he replies.

The "see if it is legit" rings of distrust for what Horowitz is saying and information he is presenting...which is why I responded to let you know this Dr. researches EVERYTHING even investigations and work presented to him by others researchers... and would run rings around anyone questioning his credentials or legitimacy (that is not aimed at you...which is where I think the problem starts), so he would have nothing to gain by providing false/incorrect information or making claims for or against other researchers unless it was true. In short he makes sure what he has said (be it his research or the research  of others) is backed up by facts.

If you look at his other videos (youtube and yahoo have a number of them) you will see he has been speaking on these issues for some years now (his hair has gone from black to greying and you can see some aging to his face) and what i like is the fact that he has the documents from the government, military, research centers, bio labs etc etc which shows that this is not just his opinion, but is based on FACT.

I said this before and I will recant it...Read his book EMERGING VIRUSES...it is thick and it presents everything and all sources and proof to what he is saying. Given all that is happening I can't see why people doubt the fact that the military of america, those so called research centers, military bases, the universities and hospitals are all complicit in the creation of much of the illnesses in america. I have always questioned how is it a pharmaceutical company can make a vaccine to a flu that does not even exist yet and in under a year make the vaccine, run human trial, get FDA approval and dispense it to millions of people...HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE??? Vaccines take years to create, BILLION in cost and the approval process can take decades in some cases. When Horowitz says Robertson said the public has been primed for viral infections I don't question it...WHY??? becasue those same flu shots are not flu shots (for the reasons just mentioned) so what EXACTLY has these agencies like Red Cross, Hospitals and clinics been injecting people with all of these years? The Baxter company which manufactures vaccines was recently implicated for sending out vaccines tainted with the H5N1 viruse and various other "human" flu viruses...read the article here http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20090227/Bird_Flu_090227   This is no accident....this is DELIBERATE...the public is being primed...but for what? I am not sure, but it could be as Horowitz says, to weaken the publics immuns system so that when a man made or natural virus does emerge everyones immune system will be too weak to defend the  person. Type in (baxter, contaminated vaccines) into google and see the results; or type in(contaminated vaccines) to see the results of many comapnies that have innoculated people with tainted vacccines. 

AMERICAN PHARMACEUTICALS ARE USING THE WORLD AS GUINEA PIGS....
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Re: Is the Swine Flu another distraction?
« Reply #31 on: April 30, 2009, 10:52:50 PM »
I am not mis-interpreting anything...and I did not see your comment as being disrespectful..

You said

 
The "see if it is legit" rings of distrust for what Horowitz is saying and information he is presenting...which is why I responded to let you know this Dr. researches EVERYTHING even investigations and work presented to him by others researchers... and would run rings around anyone questioning his credentials or legitimacy (that is not aimed at you...which is where I think the problem starts), so he would have nothing to gain by providing false/incorrect information or making claims for or against other researchers unless it was true. In short he makes sure what he has said (be it his research or the research  of others) is backed up by facts.

If you look at his other videos (youtube and yahoo have a number of them) you will see he has been speaking on these issues for some years now (his hair has gone from black to greying and you can see some aging to his face) and what i like is the fact that he has the documents from the government, military, research centers, bio labs etc etc which shows that this is not just his opinion, but is based on FACT.

I said this before and I will recant it...Read his book EMERGING VIRUSES...it is thick and it presents everything and all sources and proof to what he is saying. Given all that is happening I can't see why people doubt the fact that the military of america, those so called research centers, military bases, the universities and hospitals are all complicit in the creation of much of the illnesses in america. I have always questioned how is it a pharmaceutical company can make a vaccine to a flu that does not even exist yet and in under a year make the vaccine, run human trial, get FDA approval and dispense it to millions of people...HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE??? Vaccines take years to create, BILLION in cost and the approval process can take decades in some cases. When Horowitz says Robertson said the public has been primed for viral infections I don't question it...WHY??? becasue those same flu shots are not flu shots (for the reasons just mentioned) so what EXACTLY has these agencies like Red Cross, Hospitals and clinics been injecting people with all of these years? The Baxter company which manufactures vaccines was recently implicated for sending out vaccines tainted with the H5N1 viruse and various other "human" flu viruses...read the article here http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20090227/Bird_Flu_090227   This is no accident....this is DELIBERATE...the public is being primed...but for what? I am not sure, but it could be as Horowitz says, to weaken the publics immuns system so that when a man made or natural virus does emerge everyones immune system will be too weak to defend the  person. Type in (baxter, contaminated vaccines) into google and see the results; or type in(contaminated vaccines) to see the results of many comapnies that have innoculated people with tainted vacccines. 

AMERICAN PHARMACEUTICALS ARE USING THE WORLD AS GUINEA PIGS....
No ::)  I do that with everything and everyone especially where accusations are made, you're not going to get far debating shit with anybody unless you look into things yourself and that doesn't mean I'm questioning their integrity or distrust what they said or their background or anything else.  Sometimes you even end up finding angles not originally revealed by checking someone's story.  Absolutely nothing wrong with doublechecking people without it being an accusation.  You can then go into an agrument where someone says, yea but he's just in it to sell something or some shit like that and you can say, guess what, I checked out all of the material and it's LEGIT and then provide your check on the material.  And even that won't be good enough for the Skeptic's Skeptic like Ozmo.

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Re: Is the Swine Flu another distraction?
« Reply #32 on: May 01, 2009, 07:09:16 AM »
No ::)  I do that with everything and everyone especially where accusations are made, you're not going to get far debating shit with anybody unless you look into things yourself and that doesn't mean I'm questioning their integrity or distrust what they said or their background or anything else.  Sometimes you even end up finding angles not originally revealed by checking someone's story.  Absolutely nothing wrong with doublechecking people without it being an accusation.  You can then go into an agrument where someone says, yea but he's just in it to sell something or some shit like that and you can say, guess what, I checked out all of the material and it's LEGIT and then provide your check on the material.  And even that won't be good enough for the Skeptic's Skeptic like Ozmo.



Or you could let emotion dictate common sense by looking at things as you want them to be instead of as they are.

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Re: Is the Swine Flu another distraction?
« Reply #33 on: May 01, 2009, 11:29:13 AM »
What are we being distracted from? 

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Re: Is the Swine Flu another distraction?
« Reply #34 on: May 01, 2009, 12:32:27 PM »


Or you could let emotion dictate common sense by looking at things as you want them to be instead of as they are.
I know you do that but if I noted all the things you do in this area the post may have gotten epic long :)

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Re: Is the Swine Flu another distraction?
« Reply #35 on: May 01, 2009, 12:33:53 PM »
What are we being distracted from? 
what's important.  for that you might get quite a few different answers depending on who you're talking with.

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Re: Is the Swine Flu another distraction?
« Reply #36 on: May 01, 2009, 02:03:27 PM »
what's important.  for that you might get quite a few different answers depending on who you're talking with.

Specifically?  Who is trying to distract us from what, and for what purpose?  I keep hearing that question being asked on the board, but I don't know precisely what folks are talking about. 

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Re: Is the Swine Flu another distraction?
« Reply #37 on: May 01, 2009, 02:15:22 PM »
Specifically?  Who is trying to distract us from what, and for what purpose?  I keep hearing that question being asked on the board, but I don't know precisely what folks are talking about. 
why not ask the person who's asking the question :)

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Re: Is the Swine Flu another distraction?
« Reply #38 on: May 01, 2009, 02:17:26 PM »
why not ask the person who's asking the question :)

I'm asking anyone who wants to answer. 

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Re: Is the Swine Flu another distraction?
« Reply #39 on: May 01, 2009, 02:27:54 PM »
I'm asking anyone who wants to answer. 
are you looking for a list of conspirators? 

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Re: Is the Swine Flu another distraction?
« Reply #40 on: May 01, 2009, 02:38:17 PM »
are you looking for a list of conspirators? 

I have no idea.  Is there a conspiracy?  I just asked for specifics:

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Specifically?  Who is trying to distract us from what, and for what purpose?  I keep hearing that question being asked on the board, but I don't know precisely what folks are talking about. 

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Re: Is the Swine Flu another distraction?
« Reply #41 on: May 01, 2009, 04:41:00 PM »
I have no idea.  Is there a conspiracy?  I just asked for specifics:


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Re: Is the Swine Flu another distraction?
« Reply #42 on: May 01, 2009, 05:58:58 PM »


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Re: Is the Swine Flu another distraction?
« Reply #43 on: May 01, 2009, 08:03:54 PM »
I know you do that but if I noted all the things you do in this area the post may have gotten epic long :)

Not as long as your wild notions of fancy my friend  ;)

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Re: Is the Swine Flu another distraction?
« Reply #44 on: May 01, 2009, 08:06:25 PM »
Specifically?  Who is trying to distract us from what, and for what purpose?  I keep hearing that question being asked on the board, but I don't know precisely what folks are talking about. 

Answer:   They are.

Who?   

Answer:  Them.

Why?

Answer:  So you don't notice what they are doing.

What are they  doing?

Answer:  I don't know, I'm too distracted by this swine flu thing to figure it out.

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Re: Is the Swine Flu another distraction?
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Re: Is the Swine Flu another distraction?
« Reply #46 on: May 01, 2009, 08:33:19 PM »
Not as long as your wild notions of fancy my friend  ;)
oh please ::)  As if I'm one who believes in just any conspiracy.  At least I go to some lengths in researching things before I make an absolute determination.  We have some people here that believe everything sinister so don't try to make me sound like one of those guys.  At least I actually make contacts and do research to try and find out.  Some skeptics just read 1/3 of a book and call it good ;)

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Re: Is the Swine Flu another distraction?
« Reply #47 on: May 01, 2009, 09:20:48 PM »
oh please ::)  As if I'm one who believes in just any conspiracy.  At least I go to some lengths in researching things before I make an absolute determination.  We have some people here that believe everything sinister so don't try to make me sound like one of those guys.  At least I actually make contacts and do research to try and find out.  Some skeptics just read 1/3 of a book and call it good ;)

Nah man, you are right.  That's unfair.  You are not one of those who believe anything and jump to conclusions as if it was exercise.  That's why I  ;)  But i will tell you this, a Skeptic's skeptic wouldn't believe in God, UFO's, Bush crimes, karma, etc...  I'm skeptical when it comes to certain things, but I am far from being a skeptic.

That being, said, the 1/3 i have read is great and straight forward.  You should break down and get it yourself.  I think there's a condensed version available.  In the future, if it happens that someone brings up more arguments about JFK I'm sure I'll read  the areas relevant to it and likely search out other sources.  Until then....... I'll book surf.

BTW  I heard about a new article in Rolling stone about massive scandals, pay offs, etc.. with the Bush administration and the bureau of land management.  Or something like that.  You know anything about it?

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Re: Is the Swine Flu another distraction?
« Reply #48 on: May 01, 2009, 09:36:18 PM »
Nah man, you are right.  That's unfair.  You are not one of those who believe anything and jump to conclusions as if it was exercise.  That's why I  ;)  But i will tell you this, a Skeptic's skeptic wouldn't believe in God, UFO's, Bush crimes, karma, etc...  I'm skeptical when it comes to certain things, but I am far from being a skeptic.

That being, said, the 1/3 i have read is great and straight forward.  You should break down and get it yourself.  I think there's a condensed version available.  In the future, if it happens that someone brings up more arguments about JFK I'm sure I'll read  the areas relevant to it and likely search out other sources.  Until then....... I'll book surf.

BTW  I heard about a new article in Rolling stone about massive scandals, pay offs, etc.. with the Bush administration and the bureau of land management.  Or something like that.  You know anything about it?
ok, i'll admit skeptic's skeptic wasn't fair ;D

I haven't seen anything on the BLM story.  I let my subscription go a few years back.

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Re: Is the Swine Flu another distraction?
« Reply #49 on: May 02, 2009, 01:15:56 AM »
Answer:   They are.

Who?   

Answer:  Them.

Why?

Answer:  So you don't notice what they are doing.

What are they  doing?

Answer:  I don't know, I'm too distracted by this swine flu thing to figure it out.

lol.  That about sums it up.