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homosexuality<evolution ;)
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homosexuality<evolution ;)
what the hell does that mean? Homosexuality is less than evolution? Is that like they won't breed so they won't contribute to evolution? I don't even get that... You winked so it must be something clever that went over my head...
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what the hell does that mean? Homosexuality is less than evolution? Is that like they won't breed so they won't contribute to evolution? I don't even get that... You winked so it must be something clever that went over my head...
more meant towards deicide since we have had this homosexual debate numerous times here and on the religion board. Evolution is greater then homosexuality and since homosexuality is pointless and futile in terms of evolution we should expect that sooner or later in terms of evolutionary timelines that is that it would disappear
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more meant towards deicide since we have had this homosexual debate numerous times here and on the religion board. Evolution is greater then homosexuality and since homosexuality is pointless and futile in terms of evolution we should expect that sooner or later in terms of evolutionary timelines that is that it would disappear
...and yet it is present in hundreds of species...for whatever reason, it is there; deal with it.
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...and yet it is present in hundreds of species...for whatever reason, it is there; deal with it.
And its still pointless and futile behavior that ppl scream and yell about to get recognition and justification deal with it. You should know as well as I do as a fellow believer in evolution how long the evolutionary process takes. Our own species is but a blink of an eye evolutionarily speaking so give it time young padawon, give it time.
I really dont have anything against homosexuality, what i harbor ill will towards is the general attitude that the gay community seems to put forward. I agree that they should have the same rights as everyone else but it shouldnt be called marriage, if that means making marriage a strictly private institution and giving everybody civil unions then so be it.
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what the hell does that mean? Homosexuality is less than evolution? Is that like they won't breed so they won't contribute to evolution? I don't even get that... You winked so it must be something clever that went over my head...
Homosexuality is an abnormailty and an aberation to nature.
We have sexual organs for reproduction. Whether it be dogs, cats, elephants, tigers, bears, lions, etc, male and females are equipped to reproduce and carry on with the species.
Homos cant and dont do that.
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Homosexuality is an abnormailty and an aberation to nature.
We have sexual organs for reproduction. Whether it be dogs, cats, elephants, tigers, bears, lions, etc, male and females are equipped to reproduce and carry on with the species.
Homos cant and dont do that.
All those species exhibit specimens with homosexual tendencies. Moreover, one can hardly argue that fellation or cunnilingus have any thing to do with propagation of the species (practised by heterosexual people).
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All those species exhibit specimens with homosexual tendencies. Moreover, one can hardly argue that fellation or cunnilingus have any thing to do with propagation of the species (practised by heterosexual people).
It is only a small percentage, not the norm.
Homosexuality is an aberation.
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All those species exhibit specimens with homosexual tendencies. Moreover, one can hardly argue that fellation or cunnilingus have any thing to do with propagation of the species (practised by heterosexual people).
you pick one arbitrary detail of the heterosexual act to nullify the entire act ::), and actually if it is meant to arouse the person before sex in heterosexuals then it could be argued that it does have a place in the propagation of the species.
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And its still pointless and futile behavior that ppl scream and yell about to get recognition and justification deal with it. You should know as well as I do as a fellow believer in evolution how long the evolutionary process takes. Our own species is but a blink of an eye evolutionarily speaking so give it time young padawon, give it time.
I really dont have anything against homosexuality, what i harbor ill will towards is the general attitude that the gay community seems to put forward. I agree that they should have the same rights as everyone else but it shouldnt be called marriage, if that means making marriage a strictly private institution and giving everybody civil unions then so be it.
It absolutely should be private; why do you think so many people, both gay and straight, get married? Tax breaks, tax reductions, tax benefits; as long as the state is involved and giving out freebees to married people, gay people will continue to clamour for 'marriage'. If you took those away no one would give a shit.
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you pick one arbitrary detail of the heterosexual act to nullify the entire act ::), and actually if it is meant to arouse the person before sex in heterosexuals then it could be argued that it does have a place in the propagation of the species.
Hey, if sex were only there for reproduction then the entire birth control industry would not exist; sure, it gets the job done but most people fuck for pleasure, not to reproduce, unless of course you are a Quaker.
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Hey, if sex were only there for reproduction then the entire birth control industry would not exist; sure, it gets the job done but most people fuck for pleasure, not to reproduce, unless of course you are a Quaker.
That is fine, but not of all historical times. In ammny eras, people did not have the time on their hands to enjoy sex just for pleasure.
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Hey, if sex were only there for reproduction then the entire birth control industry would not exist; sure, it gets the job done but most people fuck for pleasure, not to reproduce, unless of course you are a Quaker.
so your saying homosexuality is natures birth control? LOL whatever your point is it doesnt in anyway justify homosexuality. The main point of fucking is to reproduce wouldnt you agree?
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so your saying homosexuality is natures birth control? LOL whatever your point is it doesnt in anyway justify homosexuality. The main point of fucking is to reproduce wouldnt you agree?
I just think we should call homosexuality what it is, an aberation. Its not normal and natures intended purpose.
However, we should not discriinate against them or favor them. I say leave them alone, but at the same time, dont expect me to accept that this is in some way normal or the same as people being straight because its not.
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I just think we should call homosexuality what it is, an aberation. Its not normal and natures intended purpose.
However, we should not discriinate against them or favor them. I say leave them alone, but at the same time, dont expect me to accept that this is in some way normal or the same as people being straight because its not.
I dislike terms like abberation; it sounds very religious. Like I said, we don't know why homosexuality exists but it does and it does so in hundreds of species. Our closest relatives, bonobo chimpanzees constantly engage in homosexual acts for all manner of reasons, reconcilation, etc.
Sexual intercourse plays a major role in bonobo society observed in captivity, being used as what some scientists perceive as a greeting, a means of conflict resolution, and post-conflict reconciliation. With the exception of a pair of Cohan gorillas observed doing so,[20] Bonobos are the only non-human animal to have been observed engaging in all of the following sexual activities: face-to-face genital sex, tongue kissing, and oral sex.[21] In scientific literature, the female-female behavior of touching genitals together is often is referred to as GG rubbing or genital-genital rubbing. This behavior, however, has not been established as any more sexual in nature than a friendly greeting.[6]
The sexual activity happens within the immediate family as well as outside it.[22] Bonobos never form permanent relationships with individual partners. They also do not seem to discriminate in their sexual behavior by gender or age, with the possible exception of abstaining from sexual intercourse between mothers and their adult sons; some observers believe these pairings are taboo. When Bonobos come upon a new food source or feeding ground, the increased excitement will usually lead to communal sexual activity, presumably decreasing tension and allowing for peaceful feeding.[23]
Bonobo males frequently engage in various forms of male-male genital behavior, which is perceived by some scientists as being sexual (frot).[24][25] In one form, two males hang from a tree limb face-to-face while "penis fencing".[26][27] Frot also may occur when two males rub their penises together while in face-to-face position. A special form of frot called "rump rubbing" occurs to express reconciliation between two males after a conflict, when they stand back-to-back and rub their scrotal sacs together. These practices, however, have only been observed in captivity. There is little knowledge of the Bonobos' sexual behavior in their natural habitat.
Bonobo females also engage in female-female genital behavior, (tribadism), possibly to bond socially with each other, thus forming a female nucleus of Bonobo society. The bonding among females allows them to dominate Bonobo society - although male Bonobos are individually stronger, they cannot stand alone against a united group of females.[27] Adolescent females often leave their native community to join another community. Sexual bonding with other females establishes the new females as members of the group. This migration mixes the Bonobo gene pools, providing genetic diversity.
Bonobo reproductive rates are not any higher than that of the Common Chimpanzee. Female Bonobos carry and nurse their young for five years and can give birth every five to six years. Compared to Common Chimpanzees, Bonobo females resume the genital swelling cycle much sooner after giving birth, allowing them to rejoin the sexual activities of their society. Also, Bonobo females who are sterile or too young to reproduce still engage in sexual activity.
Craig Stanford, an American primatologist, has challenged the claim that Bonobos are more sexually active than Common Chimpanzees. Stanford compared existing data on Common Chimpanzees and Bonobos in the natural habitat and found that female Common Chimpanzees copulated at least as often as female Bonobos, while he recorded that male chimpanzees copulated more than male Bonobos.[28] His comparison excluded same-sex sexual contacts, however, which are very common in Bonobos. De Waal's book on Bonobos includes interviews with field workers and relies on the studies by Takayoshi Kano, the only scientist to have worked for two decades with wild Bonobos.[29] New studies in Africa by Gottfried Hohmann, suggest occasional violence, but the fact remains that there are thus far no documented cases of lethal aggression among Bonobos, in sharp contrast to the evidence for Common Chimpanzees.[30]
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I just think we should call homosexuality what it is, an aberation. Its not normal and natures intended purpose.
However, we should not discriinate against them or favor them. I say leave them alone, but at the same time, dont expect me to accept that this is in some way normal or the same as people being straight because its not.
I feel the same way pretty much but in all honesty they wont stop until it is viewed as normal. I dont tell ppl that are gay to not be gay its their choice to live that lifestyle and its not any of my business but when you shoved it in your face then it becomes everybodies business and im not going to sit here and act like yea thats just fine.
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ab⋅er⋅ra⋅tion /ˌæbəˈreɪʃən/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [ab-uh-rey-shuhn] Show IPA
–noun 1. the act of departing from the right, normal, or usual course.
2. the act of deviating from the ordinary, usual, or normal type.
3. deviation from truth or moral rectitude.
4. mental irregularity or disorder, esp. of a minor or temporary nature; lapse from a sound mental state.
5. Astronomy. apparent displacement of a heavenly body, owing to the motion of the earth in its orbit.
6. Optics. any disturbance of the rays of a pencil of light such that they can no longer be brought to a sharp focus or form a clear image.
7. Photography. a defect in a camera lens or lens system, due to flaws in design, material, or construction, that can distort the image.
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Origin:
1585–95; < L aberrātiōn- (s. of aberrātiō), equiv. to aberrāt(us), ptp. of aberrāre (see aberrant ) + -iōn- -ion
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what was your point in posting that deicide, there are many primates that "hump" each other as means of showing recognition, reconciliation etc...whats your point?
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so your saying homosexuality is natures birth control?
I beleive this.
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what was your point in posting that deicide, there are many primates that "hump" each other as means of showing recognition, reconciliation etc...whats your point?
The point is that homosexuality is found EVERYWHERE in nature; we may not know why but it is there. It therefore falls within the domain of normalcy. You have your opinion but it is not based on any solid evidence. Anyway...they're all only after tax breaks.
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The point is that homosexuality is found EVERYWHERE in nature; we may not know why but it is there. It therefore falls within the domain of normalcy. You have your opinion but it is not based on any solid evidence. Anyway...they're all only after tax breaks.
No, it is a small fraction of the overall population in each of these and simply cannot sustain itself.
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No, it is a small fraction of the overall population in each of these and simply cannot sustain itself.
Only a small portion of humanity has green eyes as well; it exists. The point is that it is normal, independent of any judgement.
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The point is that homosexuality is found EVERYWHERE in nature; we may not know why but it is there. It therefore falls within the domain of normalcy. You have your opinion but it is not based on any solid evidence. Anyway...they're all only after tax breaks.
LOL what you have shown is that acts between same sex animals take on a "sexual apperance" that in no way justifies homosexuality as normal. There arent to my knowledge any homosexual couples in the animal kingdom meaning no males have sex with males "humping" is simply dry humping as far as i know and is not meant to be sexual it is only percieved that why by us as humans who must classify everything. Even if im mistaken that doesnt make homosexuality normal the NORM is by far heterosexuals.
No, it is a small fraction of the overall population in each of these and simply cannot sustain itself.
^this^
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LOL what you have shown is that acts between same sex animals take on a "sexual apperance" that in no way justifies homosexuality as normal. There arent to my knowledge any homosexual couples in the animal kingdom meaning no males have sex with males "humping" is simply dry humping as far as i know and is not meant to be sexual it is only percieved that why by us as humans who must classify everything. Even if im mistaken that doesnt make homosexuality normal the NORM is by far heterosexuals. ^this^
The norm is brown eyes as well, blue/green eyes are thus an abberation...
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Who cares if its normal or not?
Are we bound to all acts normal?
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Only a small portion of humanity has green eyes as well; it exists. The point is that it is normal, independent of any judgement.
Ok, I accept your concession of defeat. Thats like saying because tigers have different stripes they are all different. Yes, but only in one small respect.
The fact of the matter is that a species of gays lasts one generation and cannot sustain itself but for artificial measures.
I think someone said elsewhere you are a virgin or something like that so you will have to take what i am telling you for the truth.
There is a good reason a male dick fits perfectly into a female pussy. BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE IT IS MEANT TO GO!
There is an equally good reason why a mans dick does not fit well into another mans asshole - BECEAUSE IT IS NOT MEANT TO BE THERE! AN ASSHOLE IS TO TAKE A SHIT, NOT TO STICK YOUR DICK IN THERE.
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The norm is brown eyes as well, blue/green eyes are thus an abberation...
eye color is a strictly genetic trait homosexuality is not as weve gone over before...
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Who cares if its normal or not?
Are we bound to all acts normal?
very good point, but should we strive to justify and recognize pointless behavior?
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The fact of the matter is that a species of gays lasts one generation and cannot sustain itself but for artificial measures.
Homosexuality is a trait or behavior, depending upon your beliefs, with in a species.
It's been around since recorded history.
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Homosexuality is a trait or behavior, depending upon your beliefs, with in a species.
It's been around since recorded history.
Thats fine, but so has a lot of other fringe behaviors.
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Ok, I accept your concession of defeat. Thats like saying because tigers have different stripes they are all different. Yes, but only in one small respect.
The fact of the matter is that a species of gays lasts one generation and cannot sustain itself but for artificial measures.
I think someone said elsewhere you are a virgin or something like that so you will have to take what i am telling you for the truth.
There is a good reason a male dick fits perfectly into a female pussy. BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE IT IS MEANT TO GO!
There is an equally good reason why a mans dick does not fit well into another mans asshole - BECEAUSE IT IS NOT MEANT TO BE THERE! AN ASSHOLE IS TO TAKE A SHIT, NOT TO STICK YOUR DICK IN THERE.
There is no need to become hostile. What about hetero couples who engage in anal sex?
And there was no concession of defeat. You call it an abberation, I am curious, how do you define abberation?
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very good point, but should we strive to justify and recognize pointless behavior?
Pointless behavior such as:
Music?
Watching TV?
Drawing?
Roller Coaster rids?
Basically anything that's produces pleasure but doesn't end in the attainment or accomplishment in something other than that?
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Pointless behavior such as:
Music?
Watching TV?
Drawing?
Roller Coaster rids?
Basically anything that's produces pleasure but doesn't end in the attainment or accomplishment in something other than that?
The main purpose biologicially for sex is to reproduce, pleasure is a side benefit.
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Thats fine, but so has a lot of other fringe behaviors.
And many of them come a go. Homosexuality hasn't. So has pedophilia. >:( Maybe we are just wired wrong as a species.
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Pointless behavior such as:
Music?
Watching TV?
Drawing?
Roller Coaster rids?
Basically anything that's produces pleasure but doesn't end in the attainment or accomplishment in something other than that?
;D These are definitely biased people. I am truly neutral about homosexuality; it has no bearing on my life and doesn't interest me for good or bad. It is simply irrelevant.
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The main purpose biologicially for sex is to reproduce, pleasure is a side benefit.
And how many people have sex for the primary purpose of reproducing?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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And many of them come a go. Homosexuality hasn't. So has pedophilia. >:( Maybe we are just wired wrong as a species.
No its like anything else.
Even BMW probably rolls out a few lemons off the line.
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No its like anything else.
Even BMW probably rolls out a few lemons off the line.
Yeah but BMW has a warranty. ;D
Is salvation our warranty?
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Yeah but BMW has a warranty. ;D
Is salvation our warranty?
Ha ha. I have a 3 Series and they cover everything!
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Homosexuality is a trait or behavior, depending upon your beliefs, with in a species.
It's been around since recorded history.
absolutely not, it is a genetic predisposition but it presents itself in a behaviour so the individual chooses to indulge that behavior.
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absolutely not, it is a genetic predisposition but it presents itself in a behaviour so the individual chooses to indulge that behavior.
So I should have said: "and or"?
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Pointless behavior such as:
Music?
Watching TV?
Drawing?
Roller Coaster rids?
Basically anything that's produces pleasure but doesn't end in the attainment or accomplishment in something other than that?
Again nobody is ranting and raving about justification of your examples like they are homosexuality.
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Again nobody is ranting and raving about justification of your examples like they are homosexuality.
I stand by my earlier post about an asshole being made to take a shit and not a mans dick up there.
Anyone who does not understand that cant be reasoned with.
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absolutely not, it is a genetic predisposition but it presents itself in a behaviour so the individual chooses to indulge that behavior.
OK...we have argued enough about THIS but more interestingly, what about the girl? Do you think she is doing ok or has been warped by her dike mothers?
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A 12 year old shouldn't even know what homosexuality is.
This is what the gay agenda does. Focuses on kids to 'accept' it.
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OK...we have argued enough about THIS but more interestingly, what about the girl? Do you think she is doing ok or has been warped by her dike mothers?
I think she seems to be doing fantastic its hard to tell from a simple interview but just based on that fantastic, very articulate and thoughtful about her words especially for such a young age.
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Again nobody is ranting and raving about justification of your examples like they are homosexuality.
Well, roller coaster riding wasn't punishable by death in the bible.
Also, you are the one who brought up "pointless behavior"
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A 12 year old shouldn't even know what homosexuality is.
This is what the gay agenda does. Focuses on kids to 'accept' it.
Well, you know what they say...
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The main purpose biologicially for sex is to reproduce, pleasure is a side benefit.
lol
C'mon now, you're starting to sound like a Vulcan or robot.
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Well, you know what they say...
No, what do 'they' say.
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No, what do 'they' say.
They say that for all their other faults, the Mexicans got their food right! ;D
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Well, roller coaster riding wasn't punishable by death in the bible.
Also, you are the one who brought up "pointless behavior"
my reference to pointless behavior was in the context of evolution...
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A 12 year old shouldn't even know what homosexuality is.
This is what the gay agenda does. Focuses on kids to 'accept' it.
In the 1970's i knew what "gay" was.
12 years olds know about sex and homosexuality. Now a days probably by age 9.
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my reference to pointless behavior was in the context of evolution...
And we don't live our lives solely in the context of evolution. Everything we do can be traced back to either pursuing pleasure or avoiding pain.
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In the 1970's i knew what "gay" was.
12 years olds know about sex and homosexuality. Now a days probably by age 9.
And that signifies a collapse of character in our society.
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In the 1970's i knew what "gay" was.
12 years olds know about sex and homosexuality. Now a days probably by age 9.
12 year olds are fucking each other these days.
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And we don't live our lives solely in the context of evolution. Everything we do can be traced back to either pursuing pleasure or avoiding pain.
No we dont nor do we live our live to pursue pointless behavior, the main goal as most would agree here is to reproduce and provide offspring that survive homosexuals are showing this to be true by yelling for them to be able to adopt...
thats a broad statement and like saying there is no truely altruistic act...an angle for that can be argued for everything
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And how many people have sex for the primary purpose of reproducing?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
What’s so funny about that? The process feels good for a reason: TO ENCOURAGE REPRODUCTION OF OFFSPRING, hence the words, “Be fruitful and multiply!”
If having sex felt like getting a root canal, there’d only be about 100 people in this country.
I stand by my earlier post about an asshole being made to take a shit and not a mans dick up there.
Anyone who does not understand that cant be reasoned with.
I think Scripture refers to tha as, "going after strange flesh".
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What’s so funny about that? The process feels good for a reason: TO ENCOURAGE REPRODUCTION OF OFFSPRING, hence the words, “Be fruitful and multiply!”
If having sex felt like getting a root canal, there’d only be about 100 people in this country.
I think Scripture refers to tha as, "going after strange flesh".
So is that 12 year old warped and twisted by 'sin'?
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lol
C'mon now, you're starting to sound like a Vulcan or robot.
Biologically speakling, am I wrong?
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What’s so funny about that? The process feels good for a reason: TO ENCOURAGE REPRODUCTION OF OFFSPRING, hence the words, “Be fruitful and multiply!”
If having sex felt like getting a root canal, there’d only be about 100 people in this country.
I agree.
What he said was funny.
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No we dont nor do we live our live to pursue pointless behavior, the main goal as most would agree here is to reproduce and provide offspring that survive homosexuals are showing this to be true by yelling for them to be able to adopt...
thats a broad statement and like saying there is no truely altruistic act...an angle for that can be argued for everything
Ahh yes we do. People constantly pursue behavior that gives them pleasure whether its pointless or not and to avoid pain. Our whole society is based on it. Being generous has it's pleasure to.
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We've discussed this on the board before, but there is abnormal behavior in the animal kingdom, including homosexual behavior, infanticide, etc. Really does nothing to establish that the same behavior is normal in humans.
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We've discussed this on the board before, but there is abnormal behavior in the animal kingdom, including homosexual behavior, infanticide, etc. Really does nothing to establish that the same behavior is normal in humans.
I don't see how anyone could say homosexuality is normal. (not that there's anything wrong with that.)
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Ahh yes we do. People constantly pursue behavior that gives them pleasure whether its pointless or not and to avoid pain. Our whole society is based on it. Being generous has it's pleasure to.
Purseuing a pointless behavior for a period of time i.e. a t.v. show or rollercoaster is different then living for a pointless behavior, again wouldnt you agree that the main point is to reproduce offspring that survive?
Also just like your theory of avoiding pain i could say everything has a purpose if your heterosexual and argue that point on every action.
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I don't see how anyone could say homosexuality is normal. (not that there's anything wrong with that.)
I agree, but that's what the GLBT community/advocates say.
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If the biological purpose of sex is to procreate, then anyone participating in oral sex, anal sex, sex without a condom, sex with the pull out method, sex while on birth control, etc.. are deviants. Not just homosexuals. Also included would be impotent men, sterile women, and anyone else along those lines where genetics or disease (or accidents, etc.) have rendered them unable to procreate.
If you watch porn, you are a deviant as well as it is not a product of biological sex.
If homosexuality is nature's birth control.... well that says a hell of a lot about the Republican party. Kind of bad when even Mother Nature thinks you are an idiot.
Some people obviously just do not think their talking points through before bleating them out.
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Purseuing a pointless behavior for a period of time i.e. a t.v. show or rollercoaster is different then living for a pointless behavior, again wouldnt you agree that the main point is to reproduce offspring that survive?
Also just like your theory of avoiding pain i could say everything has a purpose if your heterosexual and argue that point on every action.
Lots of people live for pointless endeavors.
Not everyone has children. So are their lives pointless?
Everything does have a purpose: To gain pleasure or avoid pain.
I don't agree that my main point in life is to reproduce.
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Lots of people live for pointless endeavors.
Not everyone has children. So are their lives pointless?
Everything does have a purpose: To gain pleasure or avoid pain.
I don't agree that my main point in life is to reproduce.
the main point of "life" is to reproduce its an undeniable fact...it may not be your main goal in life but as for "life" in general yes it is to keep the species going.
Again just like your theory of pain and pleasure i can refute any action you give to say against the main point of life being to reproduce...
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If the biological purpose of sex is to procreate, then anyone participating in oral sex, anal sex, sex without a condom, sex with the pull out method, sex while on birth control, etc.. are deviants. Not just homosexuals. Also included would be impotent men, sterile women, and anyone else along those lines where genetics or disease (or accidents, etc.) have rendered them unable to procreate.
If you watch porn, you are a deviant as well as it is not a product of biological sex.
If homosexuality is nature's birth control.... well that says a hell of a lot about the Republican party. Kind of bad when even Mother Nature thinks you are an idiot.
Some people obviously just do not think their talking points through before bleating them out.
True, but we won't hold it against you. ;D
Reproduction is the PRIMARY purpose; and to encourage that primary purpose, it appears that Someone came up with the neat notion to make the process FEEL FANTASTIC. It appears that you confuse "primary" and "sole" when it comes to this issue.
Plus, you can't make babies, engaging in any of those other activities.
Why do you think condoms and "the pill" are called contraceptives? They're designed to STOP what normally happens, if you keep knocking boots.........PREGNANCY!!!
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the main point of "life" is to reproduce its an undeniable fact...it may not be your main goal in life but as for "life" in general yes it is to keep the species going.
Again just like your theory of pain and pleasure i can refute any action you give to say against the main point of life being to reproduce...
How is that the main point of life? Who runs around saying "we must reproduce"? We like to have sex it brings us pleasure. We like to have children, it brings us pleasure.
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How is that the main point of life? Who runs around saying "we must reproduce"? We like to have sex it brings us pleasure. We like to have children, it brings us pleasure.
Now we do, however, when people were in caves, on farms, on plantations, etc, they had sex to reproduce.
Hungry, cold, tired, people were not having sex alot for fun.
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How is that the main point of life? Who runs around saying "we must reproduce"? We like to have sex it brings us pleasure. We like to have children, it brings us pleasure.
It is the main point of life and not just human life but all life...everybody does they may not be yelling it out loud but they are in their actions...We like to have children b/c it serves to fullfill our need to reproduce
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I always wondered why heterosexual people care so much about what homosexual people do.
I mean... I'm not going to be gay either way, so I certainly don't care if two people decide they want to be gay with each other.
It just doesn't matter to me.
I am however an advocate for everyone being able to marry who they want to. Everyone has the right to be as miserable as I was.
There are a lot of economic pluses as well... like marriage licenses, wedding ceremonies, and divorce proceedings.
All of that helps the economy... I just don't understand why straight people want gay people to not get married... They should be all for it.
Hell... Show a few gay people how much a pain in the ass it is, and none of them will ever do it anyway.
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It is the main point of life and not just human life but all life...everybody does they may not be yelling it out loud but they are in their actions...We like to have children b/c it serves to fullfill our need to reproduce
everybody does they may not be yelling it out loud but they are in their actions...We like to have children b/c it serves to fullfill our need to reproduce ................
..........which gives us pleasure.
:D
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It is the main point of life and not just human life but all life...everybody does they may not be yelling it out loud but they are in their actions...We like to have children b/c it serves to fullfill our need to reproduce
I think we have children because women want them... I'm not really a fan of having kids and I really didn't want them before my wife talked me into them... I damn sure don't want anymore.
I do love having sex though... Thank God for vasectomies
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I think we have children because women want them... I'm not really a fan of having kids and I really didn't want them before my wife talked me into them... I damn sure don't want anymore.
I do love having sex though... Thank God for vasectomies
Because without kids and new people, we die off.
Without kids, you have no SS.
Without Kids, you hjave no military and future workforce.
Without kids, you have no one to help you in your old age.
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I always wondered why heterosexual people care so much about what homosexual people do.
I mean... I'm not going to be gay either way, so I certainly don't care if two people decide they want to be gay with each other.
It just doesn't matter to me.
Well said.
The same people condemning homos are usually the same one getting aroused with girl on girl action and wtching dicks in straight porn movies.
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Well said.
The same people condemning homos are usually the same one getting aroused with girl on girl action and wtching dicks in straight porn movies.
Sounds like you speak from experience. ;D
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I always wondered why heterosexual people care so much about what homosexual people do.
I mean... I'm not going to be gay either way, so I certainly don't care if two people decide they want to be gay with each other.
It just doesn't matter to me.
I am however an advocate for everyone being able to marry who they want to. Everyone has the right to be as miserable as I was.
There are a lot of economic pluses as well... like marriage licenses, wedding ceremonies, and divorce proceedings.
All of that helps the economy... I just don't understand why straight people want gay people to not get married... They should be all for it.
Hell... Show a few gay people how much a pain in the ass it is, and none of them will ever do it anyway.
QFT
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Well said.
The same people condemning homos are usually the same one getting aroused with girl on girl action and wtching dicks in straight porn movies.
And, the same people, condemning those who call homosexuality morally wrong or sick or disgusting, are usually the same ones who insult people (especially on the forums here) by calling them gay.
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And, the same people, condemning those who call homosexuality morally wrong or sick or disgusting, are usually the same ones who insult people (especially on the forums here) by calling them gay.
Agree. It's such an intellectually weak copout response.
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everybody does they may not be yelling it out loud but they are in their actions...We like to have children b/c it serves to fullfill our need to reproduce ................
..........which gives us pleasure.
:D
which also serves the main goal in life...see like I said I can justify all behaviour by saying it serves to help reproduce just like you can justify all behaviour as being avoiding pain or seeking pleasure and like there being no altruistic acts. There is one thing you cant deny though homosexuality is a pointless and futile evolutionary trait and more then likely will sooner or later be cleansed from our population.
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Out of the mouths of babes. :)
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which also serves the main goal in life...see like I said I can justify all behaviour by saying it serves to help reproduce just like you can justify all behaviour as being avoiding pain or seeking pleasure and like there being no altruistic acts. There is one thing you cant deny though homosexuality is a pointless and futile evolutionary trait and more then likely will sooner or later be cleansed from our population.
Recorded history says otherwise.
If homosexuality is a pointless evolutionary trait so are many others things that give us pleasure. In other words, so what?
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Hey, if sex were only there for reproduction then the entire birth control industry would not exist; sure, it gets the job done but most people fuck for pleasure, not to reproduce, unless of course you are a Quaker.
Ya right. I'll betcha more than a few Quakers are trying to 'reproduce' at the most unlikely times. ;)
Then they're probably a whole bunch of Quaker wives on the pill, but trying like heck to make a baby. ;D
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Recorded history says otherwise.
If homosexuality is a pointless evolutionary trait so are many others things that give us pleasure. In other words, so what?
The ability to derive pleasure from sex is in itself an inherited evolutionary trait guaranteeing survival of the species.
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Recorded history says otherwise.
If homosexuality is a pointless evolutionary trait so are many others things that give us pleasure. In other words, so what?
LOL recorded history goes back how many yrs, 32 thousand yrs and thats if you count cave paintings if you count actually language what a few thousand yrs. Evolution takes hundreds of thousands of years if not more in a stable enviroment.
Homosexuality is not just a trait it is also a choice you refuse to recognize that, if it were merely a trait it would be different but its not its a behavior. Again I can defend any behavior other then homosexuality as a behavior that contributes to our continued species, just like you can defend just about any behavior as being seeking pleasure or avoiding pain.
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LOL recorded history goes back how many yrs, 32 thousand yrs and thats if you count cave paintings if you count actually language what a few thousand yrs. Evolution takes hundreds of thousands of years if not more in a stable enviroment.
Homosexuality is not just a trait it is also a choice you refuse to recognize that, if it were merely a trait it would be different but its not its a behavior. Again I can defend any behavior other then homosexuality as a behavior that contributes to our continued species, just like you can defend just about any behavior as being seeking pleasure or avoiding pain.
You can defend any behavior other than homosexuality as a behavior that contributes to continued species?
Ok: Picking your nose.
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LOL recorded history goes back how many yrs, 32 thousand yrs and thats if you count cave paintings if you count actually language what a few thousand yrs. Evolution takes hundreds of thousands of years if not more in a stable enviroment.
Homosexuality is not just a trait it is also a choice you refuse to recognize that, if it were merely a trait it would be different but its not its a behavior. Again I can defend any behavior other then homosexuality as a behavior that contributes to our continued species, just like you can defend just about any behavior as being seeking pleasure or avoiding pain.
Well if you believe in evolution:
While the homosexual bonding system in Bonobos represent the highest frequency of homosexuality known in any species, homosexuality has been reported for all great apes (a group which includes humans), as well as a number of other primate species.[36][37][38][39][40][41][42][43][44]
From wiki.
It's been around.
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You can defend any behavior other than homosexuality as a behavior that contributes to continued species?
Ok: Picking your nose.
pp in general prefer mates that take care of themselves and are healthy so that they will be able to take care and provide for their offspring. An unkept person gives the impression of a weakly irresponsible individual and one not well suited to produce offspring. So picking your nose could be looked at as keepig yourself groomed and more attractive to the opposite sex. SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Just like picking your nose could be described as seeking pleasure....heres one for you, how about ppl who get pleasure from pain?
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pp in general prefer mates that take care of themselves and are healthy so that they will be able to take care and provide for their offspring. An unkept person gives the impression of a weakly irresponsible individual and one not well suited to produce offspring. So picking your nose could be looked at as keepig yourself groomed and more attractive to the opposite sex. SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Just like picking your nose could be described as seeking pleasure....heres one for you, how about ppl who get pleasure from pain?
lolololololoololol
I feel pleased once i get that nugget out!
;D
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Well if you believe in evolution:
While the homosexual bonding system in Bonobos represent the highest frequency of homosexuality known in any species, homosexuality has been reported for all great apes (a group which includes humans), as well as a number of other primate species.[36][37][38][39][40][41][42][43][44]
From wiki.
It's been around.
No doubt ive known this since my monkeys, apes and humans class in college that in no way justifies homosexuality, also the majority of homosexual behavior in primates isnt intercourse, humping in bonobos, apes, baboons etc...is a way of recognition/reconciliation...they also practice infantcide and the patriarch or matriarch will often kill the babies of other children so that their linage will be the next ruling leader of their group should we also adopt those behaviors as well. No there is a huge difference betweeen us as humans and them as apes and that is cognitive ability we have it and should use it.
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No doubt ive known this since my monkeys, apes and humans class in college that in no way justifies homosexuality, also the majority of homosexual behavior in primates isnt intercourse, humping in bonobos, apes, baboons etc...is a way of recognition/reconciliation...they also practice infantcide and the patriarch or matriarch will often kill the babies of other children so that their linage will be the next ruling leader of their group should we also adopt those behaviors as well. No there is a huge difference betweeen us as humans and them as apes and that is cognitive ability we have it and should use it.
actually ive never heard of sexual intercourse between two same sex species...
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No doubt ive known this since my monkeys, apes and humans class in college that in no way justifies homosexuality, also the majority of homosexual behavior in primates isnt intercourse, humping in bonobos, apes, baboons etc...is a way of recognition/reconciliation...they also practice infantcide and the patriarch or matriarch will often kill the babies of other children so that their linage will be the next ruling leader of their group should we also adopt those behaviors as well. No there is a huge difference betweeen us as humans and them as apes and that is cognitive ability we have it and should use it.
I'm not trying to justify homosexuality. I'm only saying its been around since recorded history, it was likely around before that, and it will be around hundreds of thousands of years from now.
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I'm not trying to justify homosexuality. I'm only saying its been around since recorded history, it was likely around before that, and it will be around hundreds of thousands of years from now.
again recorded history is a blip in time compared to total history, evolution takes hundreds of thousands if not millions of years. If it is still around in a hundred thousand years it will probably still be just as pointless...
NOW onto the important shit explain ppl who get pleasure from pain using your theory that are actions are either seeking pleasure or avoiding pain?
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again recorded history is a blip in time compared to total history, evolution takes hundreds of thousands if not millions of years. If it is still around in a hundred thousand years it will probably still be just as pointless...
NOW onto the important shit explain ppl who get pleasure from pain using your theory that are actions are either seeking pleasure or avoiding pain?
Perception is reality. To them, this kind of pain is pleasurable.
However, John Mellencamp said it best: "Hurts so good!"
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Perception is reality. To them, this kind of pain is pleasurable.
However, John Mellencamp said it best: "Hurts so good!"
Ooooh, ...you just got my attention there. :P
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Ooooh, ...you just got my attention there. :P
LOL i thought that wasnt your cup of tea ??? but im pleased it is ;D
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LOL i thought that wasnt your cup of tea ??? but im pleased it is ;D
Not into sadomasochism in the least,
...but some things should hurt (just a wee little bit) to get the most pleasure out of them. :P ;) :-X
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Not into sadomasochism in the least,
...but some things should hurt (just a wee little bit) to get the most pleasure out of them. :P ;) :-X
Im still pleased LOL ;)
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Im still pleased LOL ;)
Care to elaborate in PM? :P
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Care to elaborate in PM? :P
i think you have a bad girl in you that wants go play...
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i think you have a bad girl in you that wants go play...
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I don't know what you're talking about.
I'm a good girl, ...as pure as the driven snow.
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I don't know what you're talking about.
I'm a good girl, ...as pure as the driven snow.
I don't believe you Condaleeza...
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I don't believe you Condaleeza...
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Shame I didn't get into this thread on the first page.
My personal view is that natural selection is almost the theory of everything. I wouldn't be surprised if the universal constants were one day deemed to result of some natural selective process at the dawn of our universe.
With that said, I believe, and evidence does support that homosexuality within biological organisms is a result of evolution via natural selection and is beneficial to species groups in their long term survival.
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Shame I didn't get into this thread on the first page.
My personal view is that natural selection is almost the theory of everything. I wouldn't be surprised if the universal constants were one day deemed to result of some natural selective process at the dawn of our universe.
With that said, I believe, and evidence does support that homosexuality within biological organisms is a result of evolution via natural selection and is beneficial to species groups in their long term survival.
It is well documented in many other species, whatever its reason it is there for A REASON. Nothing unnatural about it.
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A 12 year old shouldn't even know what homosexuality is.
This is what the gay agenda does. Focuses on kids to 'accept' it.
Agreed - what has this poor kid had to go through at school with 2 'moms' ? It'll only get worse over the next few years.
There's nothing more cruel than kids & having 2 gay parents is like being a 1-legged obese ginger headed kid.
School must be a nightmare. Fucking carpet munchers.
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It is well documented in many other species, whatever its reason it is there for A REASON. Nothing unnatural about it.
That's what I'm saying; natural selection was the process that created the existence of homosexuality so therefore its existence is very much natural.
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That's what I'm saying; natural selection was the process that created the existence of homosexuality so therefore its existence is very much natural.
I guess if you are talking about the fact that a small percentage of any species finds the same sex attractive in that sense.
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I guess if you are talking about the fact that a small percentage of any species finds the same sex attractive in that sense.
Yes, very rarely, maybe exclusive to humans do homosexual organisms of sexually reproducing means create offspring. In reference to sexual reproduction it's not normal to be homosexual, but in the big picture homosexuality within sexual organisms does in fact help promote that species' chance of procreating - by virtue of its very existence.
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Agreed - what has this poor kid had to go through at school with 2 'moms' ? It'll only get worse over the next few years.
There's nothing more cruel than kids & having 2 gay parents is like being a 1-legged obese ginger headed kid.
School must be a nightmare. Fucking carpet munchers.
If the kid doesn't have a problem with it, why should you?
Smart money says she doesn't give a whifflefart what your opinion/prediction of her life is.
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If the kid doesn't have a problem with it, why should you?
So then, hypothetically, if a 12 year old doesn't appear to have a problem with having a 40 year old boyfriend, nobody else should either, eh? Since 12 year olds' opinions are 100% valid and well founded...
It's sad the gay agenda uses children to push their agenda. Really sad.
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Yes, very rarely, maybe exclusive to humans do homosexual organisms of sexually reproducing means create offspring. In reference to sexual reproduction it's not normal to be homosexual, but in the big picture homosexuality within sexual organisms does in fact help promote that species' chance of procreating - by virtue of its very existence.
agreed, but again evolutionary processes take thousands and millions of yrs especially in a stable enviroment like we have now and weve only been able to observe etc...for what a few thousand...Doesnt mean that its not getting phased out.
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It's sad the gay agenda uses children to push their agenda. Really sad.
And the homophobes never use "kids" to push their agenda either against homos.
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And the homophobes never use "kids" to push their agenda either against homos.
see this is the problem with you and pushing your agenda, nobody can disagree with you with being labeled a homophobe or bigot. ::)
We arent on here calling you a queer or fag are we? No b/c we can still repsect you even though you dont show any to us.
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see this is the problem with you and pushing your agenda, nobody can disagree with you with being labeled a homophobe or bigot. ::)
We arent on here calling you a queer or fag are we? No b/c we can still repsect you even though you dont show any to us.
It's a similar concept to the one that if you say anything against a social minorities agenda... you are labeled a bigot. If you don't believe in Obamas' amnesty plan... you must be a racist bigot.
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It's a similar concept to the one that if you say anything against a social minorities agenda... you are labeled a bigot. If you don't believe in Obamas' amnesty plan... you must be a racist bigot.
exactly im tired of the left liberal spin jobs they put on everything its annoying
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So then, hypothetically, if a 12 year old doesn't appear to have a problem with having a 40 year old boyfriend, nobody else should either, eh? Since 12 year olds' opinions are 100% valid and well founded...
It's sad the gay agenda uses children to push their agenda. Really sad.
Apparently she does have a problem with it. On the video she is talking about how she's more likely to be accepted by her peers when her 'parents' get married. Whatever problems she thinks them being married will resolve - well, it wont.
Perhaps at your school it was all harmony & joy and not full of vicious little girls like most schools on planet earth.
You don't have to be very different to end up being the brunt of schoolroom jokes - 2 carpet munching moms is certainly going to do it.
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So then, hypothetically, if a 12 year old doesn't appear to have a problem with having a 40 year old boyfriend, nobody else should either, eh? Since 12 year olds' opinions are 100% valid and well founded...
It's sad the gay agenda uses children to push their agenda. Really sad.
Are you sure that is a good analogy there? ???
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and not full of vicious little girls like most schools on planet earth.
Now that is hilarious.
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Apparently she does have a problem with it. On the video she is talking about how she's more likely to be accepted by her peers when her 'parents' get married. Whatever problems she thinks them being married will resolve - well, it wont.
Perhaps at your school it was all harmony & joy and not full of vicious little girls like most schools on planet earth.
You don't have to be very different to end up being the brunt of schoolroom jokes - 2 carpet munching moms is certainly going to do it.
very good point
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What's with the "snarl"?
Condi's the first black female Secretary of State (appointed by a Republican, no less)......
OOPS!! I forgot. Black pioneers only count if they're liberals/Democrats.
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