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Title: If swine flu becomes big, like the common flu, how will your bbing change.
Post by: chainsaw on April 29, 2009, 09:02:50 AM
I will not goto the gym as much, do like falcon at home.
I have a treadmill, concentrate on cardio.
I will juice (jack lalane) everday oranges and carrots ect
Supplement with proven immune enhancing herbs.  I will load up on vitamins and
fish oils "i eat enough fish anyway"
Use sanitizer after every machine I touch.
what else.  Any Idea's

I will purposely jog with sweat suit to bring body temp up.
flu can't live in a body thats not 98.6.

Drink water constantly, only triple filtered infront of me from the
water store up the street.  Only water that is oxygenated!
Title: Re: If swine flu becomes big, like the common flu, how will your bbing change.
Post by: 240 is Back on April 29, 2009, 09:03:42 AM
Swine is catabolic?
Title: Re: If swine flu becomes big, like the common flu, how will your bbing change.
Post by: polychronopolous on April 29, 2009, 09:05:55 AM
I just wont pick up anything lighter than the 120 lb dumbbells from here on out, nobody touches those anyways.
Title: Re: If swine flu becomes big, like the common flu, how will your bbing change.
Post by: Sam on April 29, 2009, 09:07:26 AM
I hope to be lifting out of a wooden box
Title: Re: If swine flu becomes big, like the common flu, how will your bbing change.
Post by: lovemonkey on April 29, 2009, 09:09:31 AM
Geez christ people really are scared of this flu thing?
Title: Re: If swine flu becomes big, like the common flu, how will your bbing change.
Post by: Sam on April 29, 2009, 09:24:44 AM
Geez christ people really are scared of this flu thing?

As usual a lot of media hype. Most cases outside Mexico are mild but the press love a bad news story. Remember Bird Flu? Me neither.
Title: Re: If swine flu becomes big, like the common flu, how will your bbing change.
Post by: Tapeworm on April 29, 2009, 09:32:24 AM
THE SWINE PLAGUE COMMETH!
Title: Re: If swine flu becomes big, like the common flu, how will your bbing change.
Post by: chainsaw on April 29, 2009, 10:01:04 AM
Geez christ people really are scared of this flu thing?

Its a big possibility.  Shit, I know older people that got tb and are still messed up from it.
Title: Re: If swine flu becomes big, like the common flu, how will your bbing change.
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on April 29, 2009, 10:02:20 AM
As usual a lot of media hype. Most cases outside Mexico are mild but the press love a bad news story. Remember Bird Flu? Me neither.


I think this is the overall concern when you get any new strain of flu that has killed younger people http://www.fluwikie.com/index.php?n=Science.PrimerCytokineStorm (http://www.fluwikie.com/index.php?n=Science.PrimerCytokineStorm)
Title: Re: If swine flu becomes big, like the common flu, how will your bbing change.
Post by: timfogarty on April 29, 2009, 10:32:25 AM
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If swine flu becomes big, like the common flu,

the swine flu is a common flu.   this is just a new mutation.  there are various strains of flu going around the world all the time.  flu viruses are always mutating.   if not, a single flu vaccine would protect you from all flus for life.   instead, vaccine manufacturers have to look at all the variations of flu viruses that are active and predict which ones will spread this season.   they put those into that year's vaccine.

birds, pigs, and humans are all affected by the flu.   some strains spread easily between all three.  some strains humans can catch only from direct exposure from a bird or pig and cannot be spread human to human. (flu outbreaks often follow migratory routes of birds)

viruses mutate all the time.  a strain that causes a mild illness for years can have a slight mutation that may make it deadly.  a strain that is not easily transmitted from human to human may have a slight mutation that makes it spread quickly.  when a mutation does both, makes it easily spread, and makes it deadly, you can have pandemics.

we're not quite sure whats going on here.   this variation seems to be easily spread, but its not quite clear why it has been so deadly in Mexico, but not elsewhere.

as far as this strain becoming something you'll have to deal with every year, it don't work like that.   if you catch this variation and survive, you'll be immune to it for the rest of your life.  but now days that's not your only option.   this variation will certainly be in the next flu vaccine.   get the flu vaccine and you'll be immune to this variation for the rest of your life.
Title: Re: If swine flu becomes big, like the common flu, how will your bbing change.
Post by: FREAKgeek on April 29, 2009, 10:32:59 AM
We need an epidemic to quell the growth rate.
Title: Re: If swine flu becomes big, like the common flu, how will your bbing change.
Post by: ironneck on April 29, 2009, 10:34:07 AM
if you are not a weak fucker then you won't die anyway
Title: Re: If swine flu becomes big, like the common flu, how will your bbing change.
Post by: timfogarty on April 29, 2009, 10:43:39 AM
Remember Bird Flu? Me neither.

Bird flu (H5N1) is a particularly deadly strain of flu that could have turned into a pandemic, if not for the hard work of government health ministries and scientists.    If we're not careful, it still could.

Its like Y2K.   All this hype prior to New Years day 2000, then nothing.  That doesn't mean that it wasn't a real problem.  It means that we computer programmers worked out butts off fixing the problem before that very real deadline.
Title: Re: If swine flu becomes big, like the common flu, how will your bbing change.
Post by: FREAKgeek on April 29, 2009, 10:44:38 AM
Just do a few shots of hard liquor, it'll kill the germs. Shrug it off and get your ass back in the power rack already god dammit.
Title: Re: If swine flu becomes big, like the common flu, how will your bbing change.
Post by: Team Diver on April 29, 2009, 10:51:45 AM
All you need is glutamine!!!  :D
Title: Re: If swine flu becomes big, like the common flu, how will your bbing change.
Post by: chainsaw on April 29, 2009, 10:59:09 AM
There is a 6-9 day incubation period that this flu has.
Plus bird flu was transmitted from bird to human.
This is freakin airborne already.  So, if 500 people have this int
the U.S, than there are about 5x or more that are getting incubated.
Title: Re: If swine flu becomes big, like the common flu, how will your bbing change.
Post by: dr.chimps on April 29, 2009, 11:13:34 AM
I will not goto the gym as much, do like falcon at home.
I have a treadmill, concentrate on cardio.
I will juice (jack lalane) everday oranges and carrots ect
Supplement with proven immune enhancing herbs.  I will load up on vitamins and
fish oils "i eat enough fish anyway"
Use sanitizer after every machine I touch.
what else.  Any Idea's

I will purposely jog with sweat suit to bring body temp up.
flu can't live in a body thats not 98.6.

Drink water constantly, only triple filtered infront of me from the
water store up the street.  Only water that is oxygenated!
Uh, Mendeleyev? You know water is H2O, right?  ;)
Title: Re: If swine flu becomes big, like the common flu, how will your bbing change.
Post by: timfogarty on April 29, 2009, 11:20:04 AM
Just do a few shots of hard liquor, it'll kill the germs. Shrug it off and get your ass back in the power rack already god dammit.

its a given that cold and flu viruses will be on bars and weights.   don't touch hands to your eyes, nose or mouth.  wash your hands often, including before going to the bathroom.
Title: Re: If swine flu becomes big, like the common flu, how will your bbing change.
Post by: G o a t b o y on April 29, 2009, 11:25:52 AM
Geez christ people really are scared of this flu thing?


Unlike regular flu, this flu kills the young and healthy, not the elderly and sick.  It does this because of the body's inflamation response to this particular strain.  In other words, having a strong immune system works against you with this one.  In that, this is very much like the "Spanish Flu" of 1918-19, in which 50 million died worldwide. 

If you're not scared, you either don't have a full understanding of the situation, or you're just plain stupid.
Title: Re: If swine flu becomes big, like the common flu, how will your bbing change.
Post by: The Master on April 29, 2009, 11:33:34 AM

Unlike regular flu, this flu kills the young and healthy, not the elderly and sick.  It does this because of the body's inflamation response to this particular strain.  In other words, having a strong immune system works against you with this one.  In that, this is very much like the "Spanish Flu" of 1918-19, in which 50 million died worldwide. 

If you're not scared, you either don't have a full understanding of the situation, or you're just plain stupid.


The Norwegian health department estimated that if 1,2 million Norwegians got infected, about 13000 would die. This is a mortailty rate of about 1,08%. At this point in time, they still stand by this estimate.

It seems like other sources estimates a mortality rate of about 1 - 2% as well.
Title: Re: If swine flu becomes big, like the common flu, how will your bbing change.
Post by: FREAKgeek on April 29, 2009, 11:44:01 AM

If you're not scared, you either don't have a full understanding of the situation, or you're just plain stupid.


All joking aside, I'll consider practical precautionary measures, like hand washing and not touching shit that I have to. But, no, I'm not going to be scared about it or even think twice about it. I think developing some psychological degree of anxiety over this just makes it worse.
Title: Re: If swine flu becomes big, like the common flu, how will your bbing change.
Post by: chainsaw on April 29, 2009, 12:10:34 PM
Uh, Mendeleyev? You know water is H2O, right?  ;)

Hahahahahahahahhaha.  Yes I do my friend, did YOU know that
you can get water with an extra oxygen molecule added to it that
will kill any germs within it when used with ultra violet light?
The Health Benefits of Oxygenated Water
By Chai David Published 11/9/2007 Health Benefits Of Water Rating:  Unrated
Chai David

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 The Health Benefits of Oxygenated Water


Oxygenated water is water that is infused with oxygen. People who consume oxygenated water will get more oxygen into their bloodstream. This has a variety of health benefits for a variety of people. Not only is drinking oxygenated water a good idea for active people, it’s actually a good idea for everyone.

First of all, to understand just how great oxygenated water is, we must consider that the two greatest needs of the body are oxygen and then water. Without either of these two elements, the body will die. Of course without oxygen we will die in a matter of seconds, while being deprived of water will lead to a death that will take a few increasingly painful days to occur.

Thankfully most of us will never have to go through a complete lack of oxygen or water. However, many of out bodies are slightly deprived of both, and that’s where the greatest benefits of oxygenated water can be found.

Oxygenated Water =  Desired Respiration (Aerobic Respiration)

Oxygen is needed in the body in order for energy to be released from the food molecules. This is called aerobic respiration (the release of energy with oxygen present). This is the best way to produce energy in the body.

When there isn’t enough oxygen present, what happens is called anaerobic respiration. This anaerobic respiration results in only a partial breakdown of food molecules in order to continue producing energy. As a result lactic acid is produced as well. The lactic acid causes us to feel tired once it reaches certain sections of our muscles and blood. Then once we are done moving, the body needs even more oxygen to break down the lactic acid. This is why we breathe heavily (pant) after exercising.

So this takes us directly to the first health benefit of oxygenated water. Getting more oxygen in the body will actually give us more energy and allow us to be more active for a longer period of time without feeling fatigued. More oxygen in the blood means that aerobic respiration will take place, which means more energy in the body.

Oxygenated Water = Less Chance of Cancer

The second health benefit to drinking oxygenated water deals with our overall health.

Dr. Otto Warburg, a two-time Nobel Prize winner for research, found results that suggest oxygen deprived cells are more likely to become cancerous. These are healthy cells that become cancerous because of a lack of oxygen. Therefore, having cells with enough oxygen is important to preventing cancer. Since oxygenated water provides more oxygen to the cells, then oxygenated water helps keep cells free from cancer.

Oxygenated Water = Preventing Viruses and Bacterial Infections

A third benefit to oxygenated water involves preventing other sicknesses beside a major illness like cancer.

Oxygen in the body helps promote the replication of good bacteria in the body. These good bacteria help to keep our body safe from bad bacteria that will harm us and make us sick. In fact, pathogens (micro-organisms that cause disease) are almost never found in oxygen rich environments.

As a result, people with a lot of oxygen in their bloodstream, are much healthier and much less apt to get a virus or a bacterial infection. On the flip side, people without a lot of oxygen in their bodies will be more lackadaisical and more apt to sickness.

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Title: Re: If swine flu becomes big, like the common flu, how will your bbing change.
Post by: timfogarty on April 29, 2009, 12:13:54 PM
Hahahahahahahahhaha.  Yes I do my friend, did YOU know that
you can get water with an extra oxygen molecule added to it that
will kill any germs within it when used with ultra violet light?

yes, H2O2 is called hydrogen peroxide.   drink too much of it and you'll die.

what you really mean is oxygen infused water, which would be about 99.99% H2O molecules, with 0.01% of O2 molecules dissolved in between.

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The Health Benefits of Oxygenated Water

complete pseudo-science

(if oxygenated water does all these great things for you, does that mean that carbonated water (you know like coca-cola) will kill you?)
Title: Re: If swine flu becomes big, like the common flu, how will your bbing change.
Post by: dr.chimps on April 29, 2009, 12:15:25 PM
Hahahahahahahahhaha.  Yes I do my friend, did YOU know that
you can get water with an extra oxygen molecule added to it that
will kill any germs within it when used with ultra violet light?
LOL. My first Google hit was a Chemistry response debunking your 'product.' Enjoy.  ;D

Unless you have gills, it's just an expensive burp!

Oxygenated water (also known as "superoxygenated" water) is offered at hundreds of Web sites. I highly recommend it if you happen to be a fish, but if you have lungs that breathe air, then forget about it! All  water that has been exposed to the air is "oxygenated" to a small extent— about 8 milligrams of O2 per liter of water at room temperature— and this can be increased by pressurizing the water with oxygen gas; each additional atmosphere of oxygen pressure pumps an additional 40 mg into each liter. But what happens when you open the bottle? That's right, the extra oxygen goes right back out— but not immediately, so by drinking oxygenated water, you can still take a bit more oxygen into your stomach. But can any oxygen molecules that don't get burped back out actually find their way into your bloodstream through absorption in the stomach or intestine? I very much doubt it; the lungs are exquisitely adapted to this function, while your digestive system is specialized for absorbing other nutrients. Suppose, instead, that you simply breathe in an extra liter of air (much easier to do than drinking a liter of water!) It's an easy chemistry students' calculation to show that you will be inhaling about 146 mg of oxygen in this way. Not all of it will enter your bloodstream, but you can always take an extra breath; it's free!

These products seem to be pitched especially at the sports community, always on the lookout for that thin advantage that can make all the difference. There is no credible evidence that it does, as the following articles mention:

    * Superoxygenated water is latest sports scam
    * Oxygenated water: Fad and fiction in one expensive burp
    * Oxygen is good—even when it's not there;
Title: Re: If swine flu becomes big, like the common flu, how will your bbing change.
Post by: chainsaw on April 29, 2009, 12:17:12 PM
yes, H2O2 is called hydrogen peroxide.   drink too much of it and you'll die.

complete pseudo-science

Hydrogen peroxide my ass.
Title: Re: If swine flu becomes big, like the common flu, how will your bbing change.
Post by: lovemonkey on April 29, 2009, 12:18:48 PM

Unlike regular flu, this flu kills the young and healthy, not the elderly and sick.  It does this because of the body's inflamation response to this particular strain.  In other words, having a strong immune system works against you with this one.  In that, this is very much like the "Spanish Flu" of 1918-19, in which 50 million died worldwide. 

If you're not scared, you either don't have a full understanding of the situation, or you're just plain stupid.

Yes I'm not denying that it could potentially be dangerous but so can a lot of other things as well. I think it's stupid to rile yourself up over this until there's really something to worry about. So far the casualties are minuscule and I'm probably 100x more likely to be killed by lightning.
Title: Re: If swine flu becomes big, like the common flu, how will your bbing change.
Post by: timfogarty on April 29, 2009, 12:22:24 PM
Hydrogen peroxide my ass.

H2O is water.  add another atom of O and you get H2O2, hydrogen peroxide.
Title: Re: If swine flu becomes big, like the common flu, how will your bbing change.
Post by: chainsaw on April 29, 2009, 12:25:23 PM
LOL. My first Google hit was a Chemistry response debunking your 'product.' Enjoy.  ;D

Unless you have gills, it's just an expensive burp!

Oxygenated water (also known as "superoxygenated" water) is offered at hundreds of Web sites. I highly recommend it if you happen to be a fish, but if you have lungs that breathe air, then forget about it! All  water that has been exposed to the air is "oxygenated" to a small extent— about 8 milligrams of O2 per liter of water at room temperature— and this can be increased by pressurizing the water with oxygen gas; each additional atmosphere of oxygen pressure pumps an additional 40 mg into each liter. But what happens when you open the bottle? That's right, the extra oxygen goes right back out— but not immediately, so by drinking oxygenated water, you can still take a bit more oxygen into your stomach. But can any oxygen molecules that don't get burped back out actually find their way into your bloodstream through absorption in the stomach or intestine? I very much doubt it; the lungs are exquisitely adapted to this function, while your digestive system is specialized for absorbing other nutrients. Suppose, instead, that you simply breathe in an extra liter of air (much easier to do than drinking a liter of water!) It's an easy chemistry students' calculation to show that you will be inhaling about 146 mg of oxygen in this way. Not all of it will enter your bloodstream, but you can always take an extra breath; it's free!

These products seem to be pitched especially at the sports community, always on the lookout for that thin advantage that can make all the difference. There is no credible evidence that it does, as the following articles mention:

    * Superoxygenated water is latest sports scam
    * Oxygenated water: Fad and fiction in one expensive burp
    * Oxygen is good—even when it's not there;

I was trying to make a point my friend that there is oxygenated water available, since you were being a smart ass and trying to
say that I was unaware that H20 has oxygen.  Simple as that.  So go eat a banana mr chimps and calm down already.  
Title: Re: If swine flu becomes big, like the common flu, how will your bbing change.
Post by: The Coach on April 29, 2009, 12:28:02 PM
The "swine" flu is no worse than a regular flu so get over it. As a matter of fact it's not even as bad as the regular type yearly flu.
Title: Re: If swine flu becomes big, like the common flu, how will your bbing change.
Post by: chainsaw on April 29, 2009, 12:28:36 PM
H2O is water.  add another atom of O and you get H2O2, hydrogen peroxide.

I didn't read you're other post fully.
If that is true I stand corrected.
I'm not a chemist.
Title: Re: If swine flu becomes big, like the common flu, how will your bbing change.
Post by: Necrosis on April 29, 2009, 12:31:43 PM
I didn't read you're other post fully.
If that is true I stand corrected.
I'm not a chemist.

apparently you have not graduated grade 7 chemistry either  :D
Title: Re: If swine flu becomes big, like the common flu, how will your bbing change.
Post by: kyomu on April 29, 2009, 12:32:45 PM
Nothing change.
Title: Re: If swine flu becomes big, like the common flu, how will your bbing change.
Post by: Mr. Magoo on April 29, 2009, 12:37:25 PM
Nothing change.

x2. This isn't the 1800s or early 1900s where Doctors have no clue what's going on. I'm still going back to the gym next week (after finals) and I'm gonna do the same thing I always have. The thing I expect is a huge advancement in medical research within the next couple of weeks.
Title: Re: If swine flu becomes big, like the common flu, how will your bbing change.
Post by: lovemonkey on April 29, 2009, 12:39:44 PM
I seriously can't believe people are so scared. There's plenty of other diseases out there that can actually affect you but you don't panic over them, do you?. Why go batshit over some dead mexicans?
Title: Re: If swine flu becomes big, like the common flu, how will your bbing change.
Post by: The Master on April 29, 2009, 12:40:50 PM
I seriously can't believe people are so scared. There's plenty of other diseases out there that can actually affect you but you don't panic over them. Why go batshit over some dead mexicans?


Same with terrorism. The chance of it affecting you = extremely small compared to the other dangers out there. (But the indirect effect terrorism can have on the economy and such = another thing).
Title: Re: If swine flu becomes big, like the common flu, how will your bbing change.
Post by: Mr. Magoo on April 29, 2009, 12:42:16 PM
I seriously can't believe people are so scared. There's plenty of other diseases out there that can actually affect you but you don't panic over them, do you?. Why go batshit over some dead mexicans?

yea. I'm a lot more scared of cancer than I am of this flu thing.
Title: Re: If swine flu becomes big, like the common flu, how will your bbing change.
Post by: lovemonkey on April 29, 2009, 12:43:15 PM

Same with terrorism. The chance of it affecting you = extremely small compared to the other dangers out there. (But the indirect effect terrorism can have on the economy and such = another thing).

Yeah QFT. More people die every year of a simple cold than in the WTC attacks. It's all relative and never forget that folks.
Title: Re: If swine flu becomes big, like the common flu, how will your bbing change.
Post by: chainsaw on April 29, 2009, 02:02:50 PM
I seriously can't believe people are so scared. There's plenty of other diseases out there that can actually affect you but you don't panic over them, do you?. Why go batshit over some dead mexicans?

The World Health Organization Just classified this as a 5 on a scale of 6.  It says that a Pandemic in 2 countries that contribute to the
or are a part of the WHO will imminently be hit on a massive scale.
Title: Re: If swine flu becomes big, like the common flu, how will your bbing change.
Post by: lovemonkey on April 29, 2009, 02:38:38 PM
The World Health Organization Just classified this as a 5 on a scale of 6.  It says that a Pandemic in 2 countries that contribute to the
or are a part of the WHO will imminently be hit on a massive scale.

Sounds a bit unsettling for sure but I'm curios as to how they come to these type of conclusions so quickly?
Title: Re: If swine flu becomes big, like the common flu, how will your bbing change.
Post by: Sam on April 29, 2009, 04:53:28 PM
Bird flu (H5N1) is a particularly deadly strain of flu that could have turned into a pandemic, if not for the hard work of government health ministries and scientists.    If we're not careful, it still could.

Its like Y2K.   All this hype prior to New Years day 2000, then nothing.  That doesn't mean that it wasn't a real problem.  It means that we computer programmers worked out butts off fixing the problem before that very real deadline.

Thanks for saving the world  ::)
Title: Re: If swine flu becomes big, like the common flu, how will your bbing change.
Post by: Harry Spotter on April 30, 2009, 12:43:23 AM
Bird flu (H5N1) is a particularly deadly strain of flu that could have turned into a pandemic, if not for the hard work of government health ministries and scientists.    If we're not careful, it still could.

Not true. There is nothing presently that has been done nor can be done to prevent a H5N1 derived strain leading to a pandemic. All that could be done would be measures to minimize the rate and extent of spead, and basically give as many people as possible anti-virals. It just happens to be that at this point in time the H5N1 has not evolved in a direction that enables efficiently spread between humans. This could eventually occur by genetic drift (chance), which does happen somewhat quickly in viruses. More likely though is antigenic shift driven by RNA re-assortment with another Influenza  virus, and could occur in a host infected by both, whereby those parts of the viral genome that encode antigenic proteins are derived from a human strain, and other parts that play a role in virulence come from H5N1. History suggests that this will occur again, fortunately it seems to be a rare event.

The swine flu, A H1N1, is not particularly virulent in its current form, though co-infections in people with another Influenza A virus could potentially change that. Or might not.
Title: Re: If swine flu becomes big, like the common flu, how will your bbing change.
Post by: evandatp on April 30, 2009, 01:09:12 AM
THE SWINE PLAGUE COMMETH!
It'll never fill the Iceman's shoes.
Title: Re: If swine flu becomes big, like the common flu, how will your bbing change.
Post by: Tapeworm on April 30, 2009, 04:34:17 AM
It'll never fill the Iceman's shoes.

Iceman got fat.  :(

(http://dailyblabber.ivillage.com/entertainment/archives/Val-1.jpg)
Title: Re: If swine flu becomes big, like the common flu, how will your bbing change.
Post by: kyomu on April 30, 2009, 08:22:41 AM
x2. This isn't the 1800s or early 1900s where Doctors have no clue what's going on. I'm still going back to the gym next week (after finals) and I'm gonna do the same thing I always have. The thing I expect is a huge advancement in medical research within the next couple of weeks.
even if there is no possibility to survive and we are going to be terminated, i will die with doing what i like to do.
So whats the difference?
Title: Re: If swine flu becomes big, like the common flu, how will your bbing change.
Post by: chainsaw on April 30, 2009, 09:08:29 AM
even if there is no possibility to survive and we are going to be terminated, i will die with doing what i like to do.
So whats the difference?
Just take some antibacterial  in you're pocket.  Swine's already hit my state yesterday.