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Title: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: roc on April 29, 2009, 11:00:52 PM
 pro hormones WORK . i have more endurance, lift more weight, have better pumps  and look fuller than when off.  IM taking this stuff called (SPWAN). I recommend it to anyone other than teen agers and very young adults,. you hormones are already going like gangbusters
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: ASJChaotic on April 29, 2009, 11:25:23 PM
if you want to use "supplements"
just go straight to steroids, no need to mess around
by taking these pro hormones you have already lost your natural status
I have never even been tempted to try them and never will
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: 240 is Back on April 29, 2009, 11:27:59 PM
PH do work very well for ppl.  You'll get water logged and acne, and your gas will smell awful.  And you will need pct still.  not a bad option tho, for ppl who don't want to risk sending $ overseas to break the law, etc.

personally, if/when my test levels crash, I'm just going to the doc and ask for a testosterone prescription.
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: G o a t b o y on April 29, 2009, 11:29:02 PM
pro hormones WORK . i have more endurance, lift more weight, have better pumps  and look fuller than when off.  IM taking this stuff called (SPWAN). I recommend it to anyone other than teen agers and very young adults,. you hormones are already going like gangbusters



Really?   I'm taking this stuff called "testosterone".  It WORKS about 100x better than that snake oil you're taking. 


Hope this helps.  ::)
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: ASJChaotic on April 29, 2009, 11:30:34 PM


Really?   I'm taking this stuff called "testosterone".  It WORKS about 100x better than that snake oil you're taking. 


Hope this helps.  ::)

LOL

Then there are guys who spend 1000 dollars on MuscleTech products  ;D ;D ;D








Let's not forget Plazmosis beats everything  :o
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: G o a t b o y on April 29, 2009, 11:31:10 PM
PH do work very well for ppl.  You'll get water logged and acne, and your gas will smell awful.  And you will need pct still.  not a bad option tho, for ppl who don't want to risk sending $ overseas to break the law, etc.




Let's see...  even if they do "work", you're talking about a tiny fraction of the effectiveness and usually 4x the sides...  a crappy deal no matter how you look at it.
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: ASJChaotic on April 29, 2009, 11:32:06 PM


Let's see...  even if they do "work", you're talking about a tiny fraction of the effectiveness and usually 4x the sides...  a crappy deal no matter how you look at it.


Are you on teh sauce bud?  :o
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: G o a t b o y on April 29, 2009, 11:32:17 PM

Let's not forget Plazmosis beats everything  :o



How could I forget about PlazmosisTM?


PlazmosisTM cured my grandmother's arthritis!
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: ASJChaotic on April 29, 2009, 11:33:49 PM


How could I forget about PlazmosisTM?


PlazmosisTM cured my grandmother's arthritis!

Plazmosis stopped hurricane Katrina before it did any more damage
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: 240 is Back on April 29, 2009, 11:40:42 PM
Let's see...  even if they do "work", you're talking about a tiny fraction of the effectiveness and usually 4x the sides...  a crappy deal no matter how you look at it.

agreed.  but if a kid is going to either buy PH on BBing.com and have a little acne and bloating and gain 8 pounds of muscle...

or risk having his door kicked down by ordering online, as he's not old enough to see a doc, the PH is an option.

I would never use them.  But for kids needing a small boost who don't mind turning into a beet-red pig for 8 pounds of muscle, hey go for it.
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: Mars on April 29, 2009, 11:51:09 PM
do it good or not
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: gh15 on April 29, 2009, 11:52:50 PM
do you understand that the fda doesnt check pro hormone right? that means some of the company used and still use to get powder from china and put it in pill thus you take steroid label as pro hormone,,,that can make millions to the company because  kids see results ,,it doesnt have to be done with all the line,,they do it on specific products occasionally ,,

m1t is a prime example of a pro hormones that is stronger than most drugs available to bodybuilder and can put on you 30 pounds like dianabol same exact thing

gh15 approved
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: Spike on April 30, 2009, 03:34:37 AM
do you understand that the fda doesnt check pro hormone right? that means some of the company used and still use to get powder from china and put it in pill thus you take steroid label as pro hormone,,,that can make millions to the company because  kids see results ,,it doesnt have to be done with all the line,,they do it on specific products occasionally ,,

m1t is a prime example of a pro hormones that is stronger than most drugs available to bodybuilder and can put on you 30 pounds like dianabol same exact thing

gh15 approved

m1t? damn...so if you take m1t and gh then you'll be knockin local competitors dicks in, in no time at all
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on April 30, 2009, 03:35:35 AM
I dont know a great deal about prohormones
Do they actually work? Whats the deal
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on April 30, 2009, 03:45:43 AM
gh15 is right.  All these supplement companies making prohormones are getting their powders from China.  Most of these powders are industrial grade and not pharmaceutical grade.  But since you are taking pills and not injecting i.e. it's going through your digestive system and passing through the liver it's not a huge deal but still there are probably shit load of heavy metals and other toxins that will put stress on your body. 
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: DK II on April 30, 2009, 04:19:15 AM
Calling M1T "prohormone" is a joke.

It's a steroid, has been invented in the 60s and considered too dangerous for medical use.
Same goes for Havoc, Superdrol, 1-Testosterone and a few others.

Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: LatsMcGee on April 30, 2009, 04:23:08 AM
Superdrol really makes you feel sick.  I could only do a week on that stuff and had to give the rest away.  I felt great on on One Test. 
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: Luolamies on April 30, 2009, 04:24:16 AM
First of all there are no "pro hormones" they are all DESIGNER ORAL STEROIDS.
Some of them work really well since they are a combination of many AAS and because of that are very toxic to the liver. You can take them for 6 weeks max and you have do a good post cycle therapy (which allmost no childish teen does) so they get shutdown and gyno.
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: Royalty on April 30, 2009, 04:50:29 AM
pro hormones WORK . i have more endurance, lift more weight, have better pumps  and look fuller than when off.  IM taking this stuff called (SPWAN). I recommend it to anyone other than teen agers and very young adults,. you hormones are already going like gangbusters


you are probably not taking a pro-hormone (a substance that stimulates you body to increase it secretion of a particular natural). You are most likely taking an actual steroid.

Its not an illegal steroid (yet). The producers took an illegal steroid substance and rotated a molecule or romoved a molecule. This new chemical struture and new steroid name is not banned (yet).

Expect to have side effects.
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: DK II on April 30, 2009, 05:00:56 AM

you are probably not taking a pro-hormone (a substance that stimulates you body to increase it secretion of a particular natural). You are most likely taking an actual steroid.

Its not an illegal steroid (yet). The producers took an illegal steroid substance and rotated a molecule or romoved a molecule. This new chemical struture and new steroid name is not banned (yet).

Expect to have side effects.

good post.

i love these people....
"I'm stacking M1T with glutamine and nitrotech!"

 ::) ::)
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: Deicide on April 30, 2009, 05:02:49 AM
good post.

i love these people....
"I'm stacking M1T with glutamine and nitrotech!"

 ::) ::)

I am currently off my cycle of glutamine, BCCAs and arginine, need to let the body heal you know.....
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: DK II on April 30, 2009, 05:30:05 AM
I am currently off my cycle of glutamine, BCCAs and arginine, need to let the body heal you know.....

DUDE°!°!!!!

I seriously hope you have a pct of creatine, L-Carnitine and Superdrol ready!
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: Deicide on April 30, 2009, 05:32:24 AM
DUDE°!°!!!!

I seriously hope you have a pct of creatine, L-Carnitine and Superdrol ready!

Well, ever since I nearl overdosed on Leucine I have been pretty cautious with this stuff and of course when you go hardcore with glutamine you have to gegensteuern!
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: DK II on April 30, 2009, 05:34:38 AM
Well, ever since I nearl overdosed on Leucine I have been pretty cautious with this stuff and of course when you go hardcore with glutamine you have to gegensteuern!

 :o :o :o

You're hardcore....


I will try a stack of Plazmosis with Epistane and Whey.
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: Red Hook on April 30, 2009, 05:53:06 AM
I am currently off my cycle of glutamine, BCCAs and arginine, need to let the body heal you know.....

useless, totally useless
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: Red Hook on April 30, 2009, 05:53:56 AM
I stack egg whites, beef sausages and turkey slices
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: chainsaw on April 30, 2009, 11:03:04 AM
pro hormones WORK . i have more endurance, lift more weight, have better pumps  and look fuller than when off.  IM taking this stuff called (SPWAN). I recommend it to anyone other than teen agers and very young adults,. you hormones are already going like gangbusters

It (Spawn) not (spwan)
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: 250Ben250 on April 30, 2009, 11:23:35 AM
Spawn is oral Tren plus Epistane (a methylated form of a prescription anti-estrogen). Not exactly a "pro-hormone"  :-\

..but at least it has a comic book character on the label!
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: calfzilla on April 30, 2009, 11:36:44 AM
I always love all these getbiggers saying get the "real" stuff.  They don't understand some of us have actual lives and can't risk getting a hit for drug possession on our records.  I agree illegal is better stuff, but if you can only do designer steroids then why not?  Go for it and...get big! 
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: kwri298 on April 30, 2009, 12:43:06 PM
do you understand that the fda doesnt check pro hormone right? that means some of the company used and still use to get powder from china and put it in pill thus you take steroid label as pro hormone,,,that can make millions to the company because  kids see results ,,it doesnt have to be done with all the line,,they do it on specific products occasionally ,,

m1t is a prime example of a pro hormones that is stronger than most drugs available to bodybuilder and can put on you 30 pounds like dianabol same exact thing

gh15 approved

QFT - I think Superdrol and M1T are alot stronger than test.  They are also more dangerous, test is very safe.  M1T and Superdrol cause bad headaches, fatigue, and a massive increase in bloodpressure.
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on April 30, 2009, 03:56:51 PM
im still confused about this; so does 'pro-hormones' = those test booster things they sell at GNC?
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: roc on April 30, 2009, 04:28:41 PM
i'll tell you, on the prohormones my muscles don't fatigue as quickly, i get better pumps and im stronger. i wish i could get a bottle of test, but i have a real life and just can take any chances getting blown up buying gear in the intranet. in the meantime pro hormones it is!
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: calfzilla on April 30, 2009, 04:29:58 PM
i'll tell you, on the prohormones my muscles don't fatigue as quickly, i get better pumps and im stronger. i wish i could get a bottle of test, but i have a real life and just can take any chances getting blown up buying gear in the intranet. in the meantime pro hormones it is!
My point exactly.  Sadly there are too many here that don't have a life so they can afford to take these risks. 
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: Red Hook on April 30, 2009, 05:19:52 PM
Where does one buy prohormones?
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: calfzilla on April 30, 2009, 06:02:35 PM
Where does one buy prohormones?
online.  dpsnutrition.com (http://dpsnutrition.com)
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: windsor88 on April 30, 2009, 06:14:48 PM
I took Rage Rv5 and M-Drol.  All shit in my opinion.
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: Pollux on April 30, 2009, 07:04:02 PM
I remember way back in the day when MuscleTech was starting to hit the scene, they had these pro-hormone supplements called Anotestene and Nandronesten - I know I spelled them wrong, but it was spelled something to that affect. Now, those were supplements that work!
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: roc on April 30, 2009, 07:29:18 PM
pollux they damn sure did. The FDA is taking everything away from us
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: leonp1981 on April 30, 2009, 08:15:49 PM
I've read that M1T won't convert to estrogen, meaning no gyno, so what other side effects does it give?  Would it have an adverse effect on your natural test levels?  And with it having to go through the liver, how much of the product actually gets into your system? 
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: Pollux on May 01, 2009, 04:37:24 AM
pollux they damn sure did. The FDA is taking everything away from us

It's fucked up that when a man wants to have a sex change, he's given all the hormones and drugs in the world to do so. But when a man wants to build a bigger and stronger body with hormones and drugs, he's frowned upon and gets the third degree!  >:(
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: lax on May 01, 2009, 04:57:54 AM
Gaspari One-T & M-One-T best ever
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: hipolito mejia on May 01, 2009, 05:02:28 AM
PH do work very well for ppl.  You'll get water logged and acne, and your gas will smell awful.  And you will need pct still.  not a bad option tho, for ppl who don't want to risk sending $ overseas to break the law, etc.

personally, if/when my test levels crash, I'm just going to the doc and ask for a testosterone prescription.

When your test level crash?

How old are u?
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: big L dawg on May 01, 2009, 05:24:41 AM
When your test level crash?

How old are u?

depends..person to person it can be different.35 is the likely consesus.thats when I'll head to the doc myself.
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: Red Hook on May 01, 2009, 05:55:52 AM
depends..person to person it can be different.35 is the likely consesus.thats when I'll head to the doc myself.

 :-X  >:(  :'(  I am 37
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 01, 2009, 06:28:34 AM
there are some VERY good PH's on the market right now including this one: http://www.ironmaglabs.com/1-andro-rx-prohormone.php
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: big L dawg on May 01, 2009, 06:34:08 AM
:-X  >:(  :'(  I am 37

then get your old ass to the Doc. :D
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: Pet shop boys on May 01, 2009, 08:07:05 AM
I've read that M1T won't convert to estrogen, meaning no gyno, so what other side effects does it give? 


I heard that too...from two guys (in their late 20's) at the gym ,if theye only using M1T (as they claim) then that stuff really works.



WOOOSSSHHHHHHHH  !!!!
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: Pet shop boys on May 01, 2009, 08:00:03 PM
BUMP

For more info..


WOOSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHH
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: Van_Bilderass on May 01, 2009, 08:20:05 PM
I've read that M1T won't convert to estrogen, meaning no gyno, so what other side effects does it give?  Would it have an adverse effect on your natural test levels?  And with it having to go through the liver, how much of the product actually gets into your system? 

It will suppress your own test TOTALLY in a matter of days. Literally like in 2-3 days your test will be close to zero.

ALL anabolic steroids can cause gyno, doesn't matter if it converts or not.

From all reports a very potent and harsh steroid with tons of sides. Never tried it myself though.
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: hipolito mejia on May 01, 2009, 09:27:10 PM
M1-T is a powerful prosteroid and does not get destroyed by the liver .  Dosages of just 10-20mg or even as low as 5mg is enough to build muscle size and strength!!
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: thelamefalsehood on May 01, 2009, 09:30:02 PM
M1-T is a powerful prosteroid and does not get destroyed by the liver .  Dosages of just 10-20mg or even as low as 5mg is enough to build muscle size and strength!!

I took M1T for like 3 weeks and felt like death the entire time. Never tried it again, was horrible.
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: hipolito mejia on May 01, 2009, 09:32:08 PM
It will suppress your own test TOTALLY in a matter of days. Literally like in 2-3 days your test will be close to zero.

ALL anabolic steroids can cause gyno, doesn't matter if it converts or not.

From all reports a very potent and harsh steroid with tons of sides. Never tried it myself though.

100 % true.

The best (safest) way to use it is 15 days on and a whole month off ......
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: Captain Equipoise on May 01, 2009, 09:35:50 PM


Really?   I'm taking this stuff called "testosterone".  It WORKS about 100x better than that snake oil you're taking. 


Hope this helps.  ::)

LOL, ditto... I don't get these fools that bother with this ph crap...just man up and do the real thing, you've already lost your natural status, you might as well go all the way and get the actual benefits of real gear.
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: tbombz on May 01, 2009, 10:50:17 PM
LOL, ditto... I don't get these fools that bother with this ph crap...just man up and do the real thing, you've already lost your natural status, you might as well go all the way and get the actual benefits of real gear.

as already stated numerous times, several of these so called "prohormones" that are sold OTC are much stronger and have much more results than alot of "real gear".
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: needmoresize on May 01, 2009, 10:57:18 PM
I took Xtreme tren and got strong as fck for me. got up 3 hunj on the flat, and deaded 315 8 times. only took like 3 weeks for it to get it goin
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: Captain Equipoise on May 01, 2009, 11:55:57 PM
as already stated numerous times, several of these so called "prohormones" that are sold OTC are much stronger and have much more results than alot of "real gear".

They are untested, unregulated and on average have 20 times more side effects then legitimate pharma grade steroids that have been in existence for 20+ years.
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: tbombz on May 02, 2009, 12:00:17 AM
They are untested, unregulated and on average have 20 times more side effects then legitimate pharma grade steroids that have been in existence for 20+ years.

steroids are untested and unregulated, just like the otc "prohomorne", that is unless of course you know for sure its 100% legit human grade product.

the rest, you made up it up. and however...side effects generally mean that whatever your using = its working.

Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: JOCKTHEGLIDE on May 02, 2009, 12:01:09 AM
They are untested, unregulated and on average have 20 times more side effects then legitimate pharma grade steroids that have been in existence for 20+ years.

fella,,i told you already there is steroids in so called prohormones they just spike it you needto learn young man what you say make you sound,,like AN IDIOT UNTESTED AND UNREGULATED YOU KNOW WHAT YOU TALKING ABOUT
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on May 02, 2009, 04:22:52 AM
steroids are untested and unregulated, just like the otc "prohomorne", that is unless of course you know for sure its 100% legit human grade product.

the rest, you made up it up. and however...side effects generally mean that whatever your using = its working.



 ::)  That's not what he means.  He means drugs like testosterone enanthate, nandrolone, oxandrolone, etc. have been around for decades, tested and regulated by governing medical/health bodies all over the world and are ACTUALLY USED to treat health maladies.  They are MUCH safer than prohormones.  Some of us know for sure the products we are using are legit, 100% human grade products.  Prohormone manufacturers have no idea that there powders are 100% and accurate and don't have to regularly test their products.  Just look at the current hydroxy cut scandal going on.  Most likely is their powders are contaminated with something very toxic and dangerous.  Even high dose tren doesn't cause fucking liver damage in short amount of time like hydroxy cut is causing.  Hell heparin was tainted with chondroitin sulfate a few years ago in the US.  Nothing is really safe anymore but prohormones are the last thing I would ever take.  They are shit.  Sure they will work.  So will crushing up finaplex and injecting that too.   
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: tbombz on May 02, 2009, 07:46:34 AM
::)  That's not what he means.  He means drugs like testosterone enanthate, nandrolone, oxandrolone, etc. have been around for decades, tested and regulated by governing medical/health bodies all over the world and are ACTUALLY USED to treat health maladies.  They are MUCH safer than prohormones.  Some of us know for sure the products we are using are legit, 100% human grade products.  Prohormone manufacturers have no idea that there powders are 100% and accurate and don't have to regularly test their products.  Just look at the current hydroxy cut scandal going on.  Most likely is their powders are contaminated with something very toxic and dangerous.  Even high dose tren doesn't cause fucking liver damage in short amount of time like hydroxy cut is causing.  Hell heparin was tainted with chondroitin sulfate a few years ago in the US.  Nothing is really safe anymore but prohormones are the last thing I would ever take.  They are shit.  Sure they will work.  So will crushing up finaplex and injecting that too.   

if you re-read my post...i said "unless you know for sure its legit human grade"


so your post .... really ... well .... i dont knwo what to call it... "a product of skipping through my post without reading what i had to say and then attacking me with some thing which i already addressed in my post.."?

lmao

read before you type
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on May 02, 2009, 09:30:17 AM
if you re-read my post...i said "unless you know for sure its legit human grade"


so your post .... really ... well .... i dont knwo what to call it... "a product of skipping through my post without reading what i had to say and then attacking me with some thing which i already addressed in my post.."?

lmao

read before you type

Haha nice, dancing around your argument, again. 
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: Red Hook on May 02, 2009, 10:22:28 AM
does "PharmaGenX Finigenx Magnum" fall into this category?

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/pg/finigenx.html

(http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/pg/finigenx.jpg)
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: andreisdaman on May 02, 2009, 09:10:19 PM
:o :o :o

You're hardcore....


I will try a stack of Plazmosis with Epistane and Whey.





Dude..please don't use Plazmosis..it's TOO powerful!!!
Title: Re: pro hormones seriously kick ass
Post by: Captain Equipoise on May 03, 2009, 10:03:40 AM
::)  That's not what he means.  He means drugs like testosterone enanthate, nandrolone, oxandrolone, etc. have been around for decades, tested and regulated by governing medical/health bodies all over the world and are ACTUALLY USED to treat health maladies.  They are MUCH safer than prohormones.  Some of us know for sure the products we are using are legit, 100% human grade products.  Prohormone manufacturers have no idea that there powders are 100% and accurate and don't have to regularly test their products.  Just look at the current hydroxy cut scandal going on.  Most likely is their powders are contaminated with something very toxic and dangerous.  Even high dose tren doesn't cause fucking liver damage in short amount of time like hydroxy cut is causing.  Hell heparin was tainted with chondroitin sulfate a few years ago in the US.  Nothing is really safe anymore but prohormones are the last thing I would ever take.  They are shit.  Sure they will work.  So will crushing up finaplex and injecting that too.   

Thank you!

obviously these two idiots are world renowned steriod experts (jocktheglide and tbombz)