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Title: Jay in his best condition.
Post by: Matt C on May 01, 2009, 03:29:02 PM
Post pictures that you think qualify [thread is useless without pics  :-X]:

(http://www.getbig.com/pics/arnold/2002/men/cutler022402f.jpg)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=101431.0;attach=109897;image)
Title: Re: Jay in his best condition.
Post by: mass 04 on May 01, 2009, 03:29:31 PM
5'9.6363525262"
Title: Re: Jay in his best condition.
Post by: MB_722 on May 01, 2009, 03:33:26 PM
(http://www.ikeafans.com/galleries/images/3749/1_fridge_4.jpg)
Title: Re: Jay in his best condition.
Post by: BigIronPete on May 01, 2009, 03:33:39 PM
(http://i.pricerunner.com/images/i/theinsider/500x500/Hotpoint_fridge.jpg)
Title: Re: Jay in his best condition.
Post by: Matt C on May 01, 2009, 03:34:08 PM
5'9.6363525262"

 ;D

(http://www.ikeafans.com/galleries/images/3749/1_fridge_4.jpg)

 :-X
Title: Re: Jay in his best condition.
Post by: io856 on May 01, 2009, 03:34:45 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=101431.0;attach=109897;image)

Is he flexing his chest there? I don't see striations.

Why is there no separation between the brachialis and the biceps?

Theres so many questions about Jay's physique that go unanswered. Why does he get a free pass when it comes to conditioning? Why does he come on stage and we can't see separation between muscles? Is he trying to come in 'full'? Is 275lbs actually what he should come in on stage at?

When he dropped 20lbs of water between the pre judging and night show at the 2008 Olympia he looked his best imho. He needs to stop coming in "full" and get dry for fucks sake this is pro bodybuilding. Look at the 90s nobody was coming in soft and placing top 5. Lets see some fuckin muscle tissue for fucks sake no more blobs...
Title: Re: Jay in his best condition.
Post by: Matt C on May 01, 2009, 03:48:33 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=101431.0;attach=109897;image)

Is he flexing his chest there? I don't see striations.

Why is there no separation between the brachialis and the biceps?

Theres so many questions about Jay's physique that go unanswered. Why does he get a free pass when it comes to conditioning? Why does he come on stage and we can't see separation between muscles? Is he trying to come in 'full'? Is 275lbs actually what he some come in on stage at?

When he dropped 20lbs of water between the pre judging and night show at the 2008 Olympia he looked his best imho. He needs to stop coming in "full" and get dry for fucks sake this is pro bodybuilding. Look at the 90s nobody was coming in soft and placing top 5. Lets see some fuckin muscle tissue for fucks sake no more blobs...

These are really good questions.

Is Jay judged fairly?  In 2007, was he really any better than Markus Ruhl?  Is he just in the heads of the judges for the vast improvements he made from 2000 until 2001, coupled with Ronnie's regression that year which made it appear all the more spectacular?  Is Jay objectively as good as he is considered to be or is he overrated?
Title: Re: Jay in his best condition.
Post by: Camel Jockey on May 01, 2009, 03:56:31 PM
He looks great there but 2007 was a gift.
Title: Re: Jay in his best condition.
Post by: io856 on May 01, 2009, 03:57:56 PM
He looks great there but 2007 was a gift.
(http://www.mesomorphosis.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/2007-mr-olympia-382-jay-cutler.jpg)

I agree
Title: Re: Jay in his best condition.
Post by: Royal Lion on May 01, 2009, 03:59:08 PM
He does lack separation, esp. in his arms/shoulders.  However, I think he colors himself too dark...seriously it looks like crap.  In some of his pre-contest photos he looks better conditioned.  His quads look like they're covered in shoe polish in these pics.
Title: Re: Jay in his best condition.
Post by: Camel Jockey on May 01, 2009, 04:00:30 PM
Last Olympia he didn't even deserve to be in the top 5. One of his quads was smaller than the other and he looked like a brown version of the Pillsbury dough boy  
Title: Re: Jay in his best condition.
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on May 01, 2009, 04:03:49 PM
Lee Priest was scandalised the year he cam ein soft,Jay Cutler does it every year and gets 1st or 2nd place
Title: Re: Jay in his best condition.
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on May 01, 2009, 04:05:54 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Jay in his best condition.
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on May 01, 2009, 04:11:40 PM
His best days are over,im not a hater but this is true
Title: Re: Jay in his best condition.
Post by: Matt C on May 01, 2009, 04:14:17 PM
His best days are over,im not a hater but this is true

I don't see him improving over how he looked in 2006 or some of his other showings.
Title: Re: Jay in his best condition.
Post by: io856 on May 01, 2009, 04:14:57 PM
;)
He looks awesome there
Title: Re: Jay in his best condition.
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on May 01, 2009, 04:15:49 PM
2001 he was perfect,for him,I wish he had realised that
Title: Re: Jay in his best condition.
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on May 01, 2009, 04:15:51 PM
I don't see him improving over how he looked in 2006 or some of his other showings.

His days of ' improving ' are long over , the new bred will replace him soon enough
Title: Re: Jay in his best condition.
Post by: johnnynoname on May 01, 2009, 04:17:20 PM
2001 he was perfect,for him,I wish he had realised that

qft
Title: Re: Jay in his best condition.
Post by: divcom on May 01, 2009, 04:22:30 PM
BS!  This cracker is making $1.5M yrly without winning the O.  You girls must be kidding.  He probably pulls more than the top 10 guys put together.  The box and fig stuff dont matter.  Good going on his behalf. 
Title: Re: Jay in his best condition.
Post by: tbombz on May 01, 2009, 04:22:54 PM
someone post the picture of him in golds the day after 2001 mr. o, thats gotta be one of his best

this is good
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1206/1279670086_df4969cfac.jpg)


also, the pictures i have attached are great shots


here in 2004, jay i think was his biggest
Title: Re: Jay in his best condition.
Post by: CastIron on May 01, 2009, 04:25:21 PM
(http://www.ikeafans.com/galleries/images/3749/1_fridge_4.jpg)

Hell yea!
Title: Re: Jay in his best condition.
Post by: kiwiol on May 01, 2009, 04:25:33 PM
I really like Jay cause he's similar to Dorian in having blue collar work ethics, is much accomplished, humble and a class act all around - you never hear anyone say a bad word about him and I'm sure it's for good reason.

I think Jay would have been a lot greater than he became if he didn't peak in Ronnie's era, cause that's where things went wrong for him - he was great around 2001 when he weighed around 250 lb, but he started chasing size at the expense of everything else to be competitive with Ronnie and the results made his waist grow, skin become thick and lose the shape that he had at his peak.
Title: Re: Jay in his best condition.
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on May 01, 2009, 04:28:01 PM
I really like Jay cause he's similar to Dorian in having blue collar work ethics, is much accomplished, humble and a class act all around - you never hear anyone say a bad word about him and I'm sure it's for good reason.

I think Jay would have been a lot greater than he became if he didn't peak in Ronnie's era, cause that's where things went wrong for him - he was great around 2001 when he weighed around 250 lb, but he started chasing size at the expense of everything else to be competitive with Ronnie and the results made his waist grow, skin become thick and lose the shape that he had at his peak.

He looks great there
Title: Re: Jay in his best condition.
Post by: io856 on May 01, 2009, 04:29:05 PM
I really like Jay cause he's similar to Dorian in having blue collar work ethics, is much accomplished, humble and a class act all around - you never hear anyone say a bad word about him and I'm sure it's for good reason.

I think Jay would have been a lot greater than he became if he didn't peak in Ronnie's era, cause that's where things went wrong for him - he was great around 2001 when he weighed around 250 lb, but he started chasing size at the expense of everything else to be competitive with Ronnie and the results made his waist grow, skin become thick and lose the shape that he had at his peak.

Very good point
Title: Re: Jay in his best condition.
Post by: Royal Lion on May 01, 2009, 04:30:54 PM
I really like Jay cause he's similar to Dorian in having blue collar work ethics, is much accomplished, humble and a class act all around - you never hear anyone say a bad word about him and I'm sure it's for good reason.

I think Jay would have been a lot greater than he became if he didn't peak in Ronnie's era, cause that's where things went wrong for him - he was great around 2001 when he weighed around 250 lb, but he started chasing size at the expense of everything else to be competitive with Ronnie and the results made his waist grow, skin become thick and lose the shape that he had at his peak.

That last back shot is right before the 08 Olympia.  Looks like he was doing everything right and screwed up at the very end.  He should try to compete around 250....he's only 5'8 or 9, so that is plenty of size...especially compared to Dex or Phil  

Anyone know what the heaviest Jay compete at was?  I guessing it was 06 or 07
Title: Re: Jay in his best condition.
Post by: kiwiol on May 01, 2009, 04:31:14 PM
That last back shot is right before the 08 Olympia.

True. I just included that pic cause he looks great there.

He looks great there

Yep. A couple more pics from that same series
Title: Re: Jay in his best condition.
Post by: io856 on May 01, 2009, 04:33:15 PM
thats probably the best I have seen of Jay its pity its in a gym as opposed to onstage
Title: Re: Jay in his best condition.
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on May 01, 2009, 04:33:26 PM
Post pictures that you think qualify [thread is useless without pics  :-X]:

(http://www.getbig.com/pics/arnold/2002/men/cutler022402f.jpg)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=101431.0;attach=109897;image)

He was left for extra hours in the oven in the 2nd pic ;D
Title: Re: Jay in his best condition.
Post by: kiwiol on May 01, 2009, 04:36:17 PM
Looks great in these too
Title: Re: Jay in his best condition.
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on May 01, 2009, 04:37:08 PM
(http://i.pricerunner.com/images/i/theinsider/500x500/Hotpoint_fridge.jpg)

nasser was better 8)
Title: Re: Jay in his best condition.
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on May 01, 2009, 04:40:41 PM
nasser was better 8)

Jay Sandow  , Nasser no Sandow  ;)
Title: Re: Jay in his best condition.
Post by: CastIron on May 01, 2009, 04:44:17 PM
This squirrel is in his best condition! :o

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/08/20/article-1047374-025A47D400000578-146_148x440_popup.jpg)

hurry somebody play the rocky song.
Title: Re: Jay in his best condition.
Post by: nycbull on May 01, 2009, 08:08:44 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=101431.0;attach=109897;image)

Is he flexing his chest there? I don't see striations.

Why is there no separation between the brachialis and the biceps?

Theres so many questions about Jay's physique that go unanswered. Why does he get a free pass when it comes to conditioning? Why does he come on stage and we can't see separation between muscles? Is he trying to come in 'full'? Is 275lbs actually what he should come in on stage at?

When he dropped 20lbs of water between the pre judging and night show at the 2008 Olympia he looked his best imho. He needs to stop coming in "full" and get dry for fucks sake this is pro bodybuilding. Look at the 90s nobody was coming in soft and placing top 5. Lets see some fuckin muscle tissue for fucks sake no more blobs...

Its posts like this that will kill bodybuilders ..nobody needs to be a saltine cracker on stage
Title: Re: Jay in his best condition.
Post by: Royal Lion on May 01, 2009, 08:37:52 PM
This shot of Jay is one of the best bodybuilding pics ever.  This year's O would be no contest if he could duplicate this form. 
Simply insane how wide, full, and conditioned he is.  :o

Did he lose the WOW factor by simply playing the size game?  Insulin abuse?  Less Diuretics?    It's too bad that Jay, Ronnie, and Doz all regressed so dramatically as Mr. Os
Title: Re: Jay in his best condition.
Post by: DeketheCreep on May 01, 2009, 08:51:25 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/dekethecreep/2001-olympia-57.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/dekethecreep/2001-olympia-38.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/dekethecreep/2001-olympia-43.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/dekethecreep/rpf3.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/dekethecreep/cutarnold.jpg)
Title: Re: Jay in his best condition.
Post by: Royal Lion on May 01, 2009, 09:05:21 PM
I hope he comes in similarly this year and shuts everyone up!  Jay takes a lot of criticism - albeit deserved that last 2 years - but when he nails it (and if he nails it this year), he is the best current pro w/out question.

Title: Re: Jay in his best condition.
Post by: Dballn247 on May 01, 2009, 09:07:53 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=278281.0;attach=317899;image)

Looks incredible
Title: Re: Jay in his best condition.
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on May 01, 2009, 09:14:01 PM
those kiwiol gym pics are by far his best ever.
Title: Re: Jay in his best condition.
Post by: physicsgeek on May 01, 2009, 09:40:00 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=278281.0;attach=317899;image)

Looks incredible

His midsection makes him look a million times better in the older photos.
Title: Re: Jay in his best condition.
Post by: The Master on May 01, 2009, 09:42:03 PM
His midsection makes him look a million times better in the older photos.


Debussey's neighbor Cockroach Navier-Stokes was asking for you. He said it had something to do with him being horny in the bathtub and gases coming from his ass.
Title: Re: Jay in his best condition.
Post by: Royal Lion on May 01, 2009, 09:45:53 PM
 :o
Title: Re: Jay in his best condition.
Post by: Emmortal on May 01, 2009, 09:48:55 PM
I hope he comes in similarly this year and shuts everyone up!  Jay takes a lot of criticism - albeit deserved that last 2 years - but when he nails it (and if he nails it this year), he is the best current pro w/out question.



People have been saying that for the past 5 years, give it up already.
Title: Re: Jay in his best condition.
Post by: Royal Lion on May 01, 2009, 09:50:12 PM
This puts into perspective just how big Jay is! 
Title: Re: Jay in his best condition.
Post by: hugestatus on May 01, 2009, 09:51:29 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/dekethecreep/rpf3.jpg)
TEAM MASTERS MEN  ???
Title: Re: Jay in his best condition.
Post by: Royal Lion on May 01, 2009, 10:10:36 PM
People have been saying that for the past 5 years, give it up already.

Jay won it outright in 2006.  Also, he appeared to have matched his 2001 conditioning just before the 08 contest (see below), but obviously came in off.  I predict he will clean house this year, assuming he learned from whatever mistake he made last year in his last minute prep.