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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: CastIron on May 04, 2009, 07:20:16 PM
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How long do you break in between sets or how hard to you push yourself in the gym. Would you say that you have intensity like Tom Platz or intensity like Flex Wheeler. What I'm getting at are you a lazy bum in the gym lol?
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Compared to the average gym goer I'd say I work pretty hard. Compared to the serious weightlifter/bb'er, I'd say I'm pretty lazy. Some of these guys work out so fucking intense it makes me tired to watch. I've worked out with people before whose intensity was an 11 and they were not over jacked. Kind of depressing.
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My ipod goes on and I get in the zone. For 1 hour everyone else in the gym is a cunt and I am an angry man 8)
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I work hard. People know not to talk to me during my workout. Sometimes I get into it but most of the time I'm the only one there anyways so it's not as if I'm ruining the 20 minute cardio session of the soccer moms.
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just follow the golden rule....
if your thong is still clean at the end of the session then nothing worthy happened
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I have a rule that I don't allow myself to drink water in between sets, only in between exercises.
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My ipod goes on and people in the gym don't exist anymore
I don't go to the gym to check out girls asses or socialize, I go there to get my workout in
No body dares talk to me with the head phones and my game face on, I don't mess around >:(
This should give you some idea
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How long do you break in between sets or how hard to you push yourself in the gym. Would you say that you have intensity like Tom Platz or intensity like Flew Wheeler. What I'm getting at are you a lazy bum in the gym lol?
seriously i take like 30-40 seconds between sets for the small mucsels and 1-1.5 minutes for the big muscles.. after warming up my first set is always the heaviest then I go down.. my whole workout takes 45-60 minutes and i train 3 days a week..
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seriously i take like 30-40 seconds between sets for the small mucsels and 1-1.5 minutes for the big muscles.. after warming up my first set is always the heaviest then I go down.. my whole workout takes 45-60 minutes and i train 3 days a week..
I wish I had your great genetics. 5 days a week for me my friend.
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My ipod goes on and people in the gym don't exist anymore
I don't go to the gym to check out girls asses or socialize, I go there to get my workout in
No body dares talk to me with the head phones and my game face on, I don't mess around >:(
This should give you some idea
after 5 years of going to gyms for old people and physical therapy, i'm finally going to a meat market gym now.
it's nice. if you're focused, don't look. But every now and then, your test levels might be a little low, and there walks some girl with a "Class of 2008" on her shirt and some sick spandex shorts.
T levels jump.
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My ipod goes on and people in the gym don't exist anymore
I don't go to the gym to check out girls asses or socialize, I go there to get my workout in
No body dares talk to me with the head phones and my game face on, I don't mess around >:(
This should give you some idea
Awesome video. :)
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Awesome video. :)
indeed. 8)
There are more, but damn youtube keeps removing the audio from almost all videos >:(
PS: if you watched it for the first time, were you ready for the zombie at the end? :-X
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I wish I had your great genetics. 5 days a week for me my friend.
not that great my friend,.. i just dont like to train each part more than once per week.. when you train hard you need to take more off days to recover!
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i like to lift
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if working out like platz would pay off for the natural, but i dont think you should train very intense as a natural, just do the minimum but heavy with good technique and eat right.
i used to train leggs till failure all the time till i realised they didnt grew from it anymore. i had soreness from them a whole week.
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if working out like platz would pay off for the natural, but i dont think you should train very intense as a natural, just do the minimum but heavy with good technique and eat right.
i used to train leggs till failure all the time till i realised they didnt grew from it anymore. i had soreness from them a whole week.
but yes in order to add more size to any part you have to go till the point of failure in every set!!.. i laugh at those who say (oh i will do this exercise 3 sets, each of EXACTLY 10 reps), then they count easily like ...8, 9, 10 then stop while they can do more!!.. you have to say i do this exercise for 3 sets, each of HOPEFULLY 10 reps.. so you have to use a weight that enables you to make maximum 10 reps or so.. they may be 8, 9, 10, or 11.. anything around 10 but not a must to be 10!!..
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but yes in order to add more size to any part you have to go till the point of failure in every set!!.. i
What makes you think that?
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What makes you think that?
Oh no you didnt... :D
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but yes in order to add more size to any part you have to go till the point of failure in every set!!.. i laugh at those who say (oh i will do this exercise 3 sets, each of EXACTLY 10 reps), then they count easily like ...8, 9, 10 then stop while they can do more!!.. you have to say i do this exercise for 3 sets, each of HOPEFULLY 10 reps.. so you have to use a weight that enables you to make maximum 10 reps or so.. they may be 8, 9, 10, or 11.. anything around 10 but not a must to be 10!!..
no you dont have to go to failure to add size or wants to get stronger. even heard people say its counterproductive to go to failure everytime.
look at big ron, he doesnt go to failure.
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Oh no you didnt... :D
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This is DUCK: What are you doing with that image of a thrashy skank like that? >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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What makes you think that?
Listen up chuck, you should do both! In fact, going to failure or not should be an exercise dependant variable. The more demanding an exercise is on the CNS, the farther away from failure you should stop the set. However, in exercises where the CNS is less involved, you should go to failure and possibly beyond.
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Listen up chuck, you should do both! In fact, going to failure or not should be an exercise dependant variable. The more demanding an exercise is on the CNS, the farther away from failure you should stop the set. However, in exercises where the CNS is less involved, you should go to failure and possibly beyond.
Do you have any studies and statements from respected researchers within the field to support your statement?
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What makes you think that?
dorian himself was not counting any set unless it was till the point of failure!!.. this is why he always says "i was doing 3-4 set for each part".. he was not counting the 2 lighter sets he was doing before the "failure" set considering them just to prepare the muscle!!.. also as for myself if i dont go to failure i feel i am just doing some cardio!
yes you must sore for 1-2 days after each workout.. if this doesnt happen sure you dont train good enough..
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Do you have any studies and statements from respected researchers within the field to support your statement?
Just listen Nancy..
Failure is simply the incapacity to maintain the required amount of force output (Edwards 1981, Davis 1996). You need to maximally stimulate muscle growth you need to create as much fatigue and damage to a muscle as possible. This is in accordance with the work of famed sport-scientist Vladimir Zatsiorsky who wrote that a muscle fiber that isn't fatigued during a set isn't being trained and thus won't be stimulated to grow. ;)
Taking a set to the point of muscle failure ensures that this set was as productive as it can be. Remember, simply recruiting a motor unit doesn't mean that it's been stimulated. To be stimulated, a muscle fiber must be recruited and fatigued.
What about CNS fatigue? While it isn't the only cause of muscle failure, CNS overload isn't to be overlooked when talking about training to failure. The nervous system is the boss! It's the CNS that recruits the motor units, sets their firing rates, and ensures proper muscular coordination.
Central fatigue can contribute to muscle failure, especially the depletion of the neurotransmitters dopamine and acetylcholine. A decrease in acetylcholine levels is associated with a decrease in the efficiency of the neuromuscular transmission. In other words, when acetylcholine levels are low, it's harder for your CNS to recruit motor units.
So, if we look at the argument from this vantage point, we also have a catch-22. Stopping a set short of failure, while not worthless, might not provide maximal stimulation of the muscle fibers.
You might recruit them, but those that aren't being fatigued won't be maximally stimulated. However, if you go to failure, you'll ensure maximal stimulation from the set, but may cause CNS overload, which could hamper your long-term progress. Soooooooooooooooo
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dorian himself was not counting any set unless it was till the point of failure!!.. this is why he always says "i was doing 3-4 set for each part".. he was not counting the 2 lighter sets he was doing before the "failure" set considering them just to prepare the muscle!!.. also as for myself if i dont go to failure i feel i am just doing some cardio!
yes you must sore for 1-2 days after each workout.. if this doesnt happen sure you dont train good enough..
Dorian's word does not equal scientific findings. You are making statements without anything but belief.
Just listen Nancy..
Failure is simply the incapacity to maintain the required amount of force output (Edwards 1981, Davis 1996). You need to maximally stimulate muscle growth you need to create as much fatigue and damage to a muscle as possible. This is in accordance with the work of famed sport-scientist Vladimir Zatsiorsky who wrote that a muscle fiber that isn't fatigued during a set isn't being trained and thus won't be stimulated to grow. ;)
Taking a set to the point of muscle failure ensures that this set was as productive as it can be. Remember, simply recruiting a motor unit doesn't mean that it's been stimulated. To be stimulated, a muscle fiber must be recruited and fatigued.
What about CNS fatigue? While it isn't the only cause of muscle failure, CNS overload isn't to be overlooked when talking about training to failure. The nervous system is the boss! It's the CNS that recruits the motor units, sets their firing rates, and ensures proper muscular coordination.
Central fatigue can contribute to muscle failure, especially the depletion of the neurotransmitters dopamine and acetylcholine. A decrease in acetylcholine levels is associated with a decrease in the efficiency of the neuromuscular transmission. In other words, when acetylcholine levels are low, it's harder for your CNS to recruit motor units.
So, if we look at the argument from this vantage point, we also have a catch-22. Stopping a set short of failure, while not worthless, might not provide maximal stimulation of the muscle fibers.
You might recruit them, but those that aren't being fatigued won't be maximally stimulated. However, if you go to failure, you'll ensure maximal stimulation from the set, but may cause CNS overload, which could hamper your long-term progress. Soooooooooooooooo
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Interesting. Please write more about this, especially on Zatsiorsky's views vs. other sport-scientists views in the area.
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Interesting. Please write more about this, especially on Zatsiorsky's views vs. other sport-scientists views in the area.
I'm tired of typing. >:(
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I'm tired of typing. >:(
If you want a real workout, you need to go to CNS failure. Being "tired" = not a good workout. Keep it up sonny, and bring more stuff to the table :o
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If you want a real workout, you need to go to CNS failure. Being "tired" = not a good workout. Keep it up sonny, and bring more stuff to the table :o
lol
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the "you have to be sore for two days after each workout" is bullshit as well.
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lol
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You fell for it once, so it could have worked again >:(
;D
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Dorian's word does not equal scientific findings. You are making statements without anything but belief.
i am telling you what i have found working for me.. i also don't believe in warming up before every exercise, it's enough to worm up one time before you start each part.. also if you do triceps after chest or shoulders or you do biceps after back, you don't have to worm up before each part, just worm up one time before the whole workout..
print these tips and keep them, they will help you a lot kid..
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the "you have to be sore for two days after each workout" is bullshit as well.
The BEST way to prevent soreness after exercise is to make sure you warm up and then stretch before exercise and cool down then stretch again after exercise. Just a hint.. ;)
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i am telling you what i have found working for me.. i also don't believe in warming up before every exercise, it's enough to worm up one time before you start each part.. also if you do triceps after chest or shoulders or you do biceps after back, you don't have to worm up before each part, just worm up one time before the whole workout..
print these tips and keep them, they will help you a lot kid..
ROFL ;D
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the "you have to be sore for two days after each workout" is bullshit as well.
without seeing your body i am sure it's not anything decent!!.. you want to avoid any pain and as it's known "no pain no gain"..
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i am telling you what i have found working for me.. i also don't believe in warming up before every exercise, it's enough to worm up one time before you start each part.. also if you do triceps after chest or shoulders or you do biceps after back, you don't have to worm up before each part, just worm up one time before the whole workout..
print these tips and keep them, they will help you a lot kid..
I think we got the next Weider principle..
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The BEST way to prevent soreness after exercise is to make sure you warm up and then stretch before exercise and cool down then stretch again after exercise. Just a hint.. ;)
thx for the hint.. I always stretch specially when training legs but still if you train really hard you must sore at least the following day..
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the lights go out and the weights try to hide when I enter the gym
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ROFL ;D
english is my 7th language ;D.. ok make it "warm" before printing..
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english is my 7th language ;D.. ok make it "warm" before printing..
Let us WORM up before lifting.
;D
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without seeing your body i am sure it's not anything decent!!.. you want to avoid any pain and as it's known "no pain no gain"..
u sound like someone who has not been training very long and in the middle of his pro bodybuilding videos and flex magazine phase.
i bet your still preparing all your rice chicken broccoli meals the evening before and conserving them in tupperwear containers to live just like the pros!! haha.
I actually began to grow when i wasnt that obsessed with bodybuilding "lifestyle" anymore. workouts were simple short but heavy.
and you dont have to go to pain to not get any gain. just make sure you go heavy with ok technique.
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u sound like someone who has not been training very long and in the middle of his pro bodybuilding videos and flex magazine phase.
i bet your still preparing all your rice chicken broccoli meals the evening before and conserving them in tupperwear containers to live just like the pros!! haha.
I actually began to grow when i wasnt that obsessed with bodybuilding "lifestyle" anymore. workouts were simple short but heavy.
and you dont have to go to pain to not get any gain. just make sure you go heavy with ok technique.
At least he WORMS up. 8)
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u sound like someone who has not been training very long and in the middle of his pro bodybuilding videos and flex magazine phase.
i bet your still preparing all your rice chicken broccoli meals the evening before and conserving them in tupperwear containers to live just like the pros!! haha.
I actually began to grow when i wasnt that obsessed with bodybuilding "lifestyle" anymore. workouts were simple short but heavy.
and you dont have to go to pain to not get any gain. just make sure you go heavy with ok technique.
kid, i am nearly 30 now.. i train lightly now and mainly at home.. i never cared about the so called wieder's principles.. from my first day i was not taking anything for granted, always had/have to try by myself first and see.. we are not the same, what works for me may not work for you..
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kid, i am nearly 30 now.. i train lightly now and mainly at home.. i never cared about the so called wieder's principles.. from my first day i was not taking anything for granted, always had/have to try by myself first and see.. we are not the same, what works for me may not work for you..
You = hillarious ;D ;D ;D ;D
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You = hillarious ;D ;D ;D ;D
i am happy i made you laugh!!
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i am happy i made you laugh!!
:-*
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yes SS brings the funny calling mars a kid and all
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ok dad.
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yes SS brings the funny calling mars a kid and all
i didnt mean to be disrespectful to him.. but from his way i assumed i am much older than him so it was ok to call him "kid"..
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yes SS brings the funny calling mars a kid and all
Debussey will pay attention to this poster from now on ;D
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Debussey will pay attention to this poster from now on ;D
so prepare yourself to read a lot of nasser's stuff ;D
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so prepare yourself to read a lot of nasser's stuff ;D
Debussey = Natzor fan, so bring it on 8)
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WHEM I'M AT THE GYM I KILL DAT SHIT KNEE GROW I KILL DAT SHIT HOMIE!! GET ME? FEEL ME?
IÄM KILLING DAT SHIT ALL DAY EVERYDAY KNEE GROW!!!!!
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keep killing that shit swede
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IM a short little dwarf from Sweden. My name is Skitstøvel. I like to mbzzz
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keep killing that shit swede
Gayer than Wavelength having a lifelong obsession with quantum mechanics.
Gayer than just "needing to know", being 100% obsessed by it.
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FEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEDOR
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Gayer than Wavelength having a lifelong obsession with quantum mechanics.
Gayer than just "needing to know", being 100% obsessed by it.
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Why is 3 + 4 = 98?
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GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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Why is 3 + 4 = 98?
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GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
you mathematicians are all crazy
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you mathematicians are all crazy
Debussey can barely count you jackass >:( No reason taking irony to new lengths in order to make fun of retards :'(
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Debussey can barely count you jackass >:( No reason taking irony to new lengths in order to make fun of retards :'(
My math professor at the uni used to get so excited about the formulas that he was always surounded by a white mist of chalk dust from hitting the blackboard so hard with his chalk.
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My math professor at the uni used to get so excited about the formulas that he was always surounded by a white mist of chalk dust from hitting the blackboard so hard with his chalk.
:o
Hypothetically, how can people NOT get exited by mathematics and logic? It = supposed to be ultra interesting :o
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Hypothetically, how can people NOT get exited by mathematics and logic? It = supposed to be ultra interesting :o
No need fo no math jus countin ma reps is all I'm requirin fo sho no digity
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No need fo no math jus countin ma reps is all I'm requirin fo sho no digity
A creepy food geek and duckfucker trying to pull of the gangsta act??? :o
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debussey,.. add to what you have already printed that i never do any one arm exercise.. i belive it's always better to work both sides at the same time..
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A creepy food geek and duckfucker trying to pull of the gangsta act??? :o
pull off
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debussey,.. add to what you have already printed that i never do any one arm exercise.. i belive it's always better to work both sides at the same time..
;D
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pull off
Grammar police. Grammar police.
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Thanks ;)
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Grammar police. Grammar police.
:o
Thanks ;)
same as WORM / WARM..
at least english is my 7th language!!.. but in your case there is no excuse!
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same as WORM / WARM..
at least english is my 7th language!!.. but in your case there is no excuse!
Debussey's IQ = 52. Debussey = clinically diagnosed with retardism at the mental asylum :'( >:( :'(
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getting your worm up for a workout is funnier though
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I like to get in and get out as soon as possible, I don't socialize much, I keep my rests very brief. If I'm not sweating I'm resting too damn long.
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getting your worm up for a workout is funnier though
8)
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FEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOR
holy FUCK. He OWNED that dude in the ground even though it was more just playing around, and he is supposed to be the best submission "artist" in the world? lol.
Fedor is out of this world.
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holy FUCK. He OWNED that dude in the ground even though it was more just playing around, and he is supposed to be the best submission "artist" in the world? lol.
Fedor is out of this world.
Fedor = the best.
It does not even seem like he wormed up before the fight ;D
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Fedor = the best.
It does not even seem like he wormed up before the fight ;D
lol, he had him in a armbar, and the heelhook at the end lol.
Cant wait until his next fight HEHEHE
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lol, he had him in a armbar, and the heelhook at the end lol.
Cant wait until his next fight HEHEHE
Debussey hopes they match him up with Barnett, and that Fedor takes his training for the fight seriously.
Seing Fedor demolish Overeem would also be fun.
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too sick to work or workout today...anyone ready for a kitchen posedown?
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too sick to work or workout today...anyone ready for a kitchen posedown?
b-b-b-b-brutal pec fat fold in your armpit ;D
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b-b-b-b-brutal pec fat fold in your armpit ;D
I've think I've just hit rock bottom
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Fedor seems like such a nice guy. Like all he wants to do is support his family and work. Just happens he is the best fighter in world.
My work ethic is have a bit of fun in the gym and get most or all of the work done. When it stops being fun ill stop doing it I reckonl. I have a bit of a fire relit again recently
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I'm the hard core area in any gym; blood, sweat & tears baby. After decades of this it's as natural as breathing. Unfortuntely most gyms don't have a lot of serious people whether it be BBs or those getting/keeping in shape, etc., but once in a while you find one, in which case the mood's infectious and my kinda place.
About a minute between sets, 1.5 for very heavy work; the tempo is kept high, the sweat starts early and then i'm in the zone. Wouldn't have it any other way. Training to failure on most sets excluding warmups. All consistent with looking like a BB, which i do without drugs thanx to hard work over decades, nutrition, rest, etc.
Nice complement from one of the regulars at my gym last night, at the end of a slammin workout. Asked me if i was a pro. I'm in my late 40s but look younger. 4 decades of dedicated training and good genetics will do that. :D
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My ipod goes on and I get in the zone. For 1 hour everyone else in the gym is a cunt and I am an angry man 8)
if i was built like you id be angry as well ;D