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CNN) -- Same-sex marriage became legal in Maine on Wednesday as Gov. John Baldacci signed a bill less than an hour after the state legislature approved it.
Maine Gov. John Baldacci signed a bill Wednesday legalizing same-sex marriage.
"I have come to believe that this is a question of fairness and of equal protection under the law and that a civil union is not equal to civil marriage," said Baldacci, a Democrat.
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CNN) -- Same-sex marriage became legal in Maine on Wednesday as Gov. John Baldacci signed a bill less than an hour after the state legislature approved it.
Maine Gov. John Baldacci signed a bill Wednesday legalizing same-sex marriage.
"I have come to believe that this is a question of fairness and of equal protection under the law and that a civil union is not equal to civil marriage," said Baldacci, a Democrat.
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Football must be popular in maine ::)
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Why don't they put it to a vote hmmm...we've seen what ahppens when that happens.
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Why don't they put it to a vote hmmm...we've seen what ahppens when that happens.
You mean like the vote in Massachusetts, Connecticut, Vermont and Iowa?
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It doesnt mean its right!!
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Hardly a 'victory'. ::)
Although, your cool smiley as a reply doesn't surprise me. :D
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Not a huge issue to me but they already had civil unions, which honored all state benefits of marriage. Gay activists are very pushy and quite intolerant when they don't get their way.
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Another one bites the dust, bitches! ;D
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Football must be popular in maine ::)
No. Football is for "straight" men wishing to express their homoerotic tendencies and mask it as a heterosexual masquerade.
Pay attention.
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You mean like the vote in Massachusetts, Connecticut, Vermont and Iowa?
The people did not vote in those states.
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Hardly a 'victory'. ::)
Although, your cool smiley as a reply doesn't surprise me. :D
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=92811.0;attach=100910;image)
You are just angry that your window for bigotry is shrinking.
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cool. common sense is spreading. slowly.
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No. Football is for "straight" men wishing to express their homoerotic tendencies and mask it as a heterosexual masquerade.
Pay attention.
You're one to talk. You shouldn't throw rocks if you live in a glass house. LOL
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You're one to talk. You shouldn't throw rocks if you live in a glass house. LOL
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=92811.0;attach=100910;image)
I don`t understand what you are talking about.
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Not a huge issue to me but they already had civil unions, which honored all state benefits of marriage. Gay activists are very pushy and quite intolerant when they don't get their way.
Why shouldn`t they be?
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Excuse me....how big is the gay population in California....and prop 8 was voted down? I'm from Mass....the libs have pushed into NH and the rest of New England. People aren't slobbering to ok gay marriage, they never got to vote. The Vermont legislature ok'd it. That gov exists in a bubble. Montpelier and Burlington are very liberal, the rest of the state is very rural and not the kind of folks to buy off on gay marriage. The militant gays are pushing this shit because the average person has bigger worries.
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The people did not vote in those states.
Not all states have ballot initiatives and most states who do have them, abhor them as there is no protection for the minority as intended by James Madison.
For instance, could you have imagined a ballot initiative in Alabama during the the 60s? I have a feeling that African Americans would have had it even rougher than they did.
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Because its bad to be intolerant...
Do you approve of Perez Hilton's bitch rant and internet slander against that Ms. USA contender? Is that appropriate behavior?
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Of course because gays have a right to marriage.... ::)
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Excuse me....how big is the gay population in California....and prop 8 was voted down? I'm from Mass....the libs have pushed into NH and the rest of New England. People aren't slobbering to ok gay marriage, they never got to vote. The Vermont legislature ok'd it. That gov exists in a bubble. Montpelier and Burlington are very liberal, the rest of the state is very rural and not the kind of folks to buy off on gay marriage. The militant gays are pushing this shit because the average person has bigger worries.
Please answer this question.
Has there been any problems for Heterosexuals since Connecticut and Massachusetts legalized gay marriage? If so, what are the problems and why?
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Because its bad to be intolerant...
Do you approve of Perez Hilton's bitch rant and internet slander against that Ms. USA contender? Is that appropriate behavior?
He can say whatever he wants and in no way represents all gay people just as Rush Limbaugh can say what he wants and nor does he represent All Republicans.
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The Maine marriage bill, like Vermont's, contains religious conscience exemptions for churches and also explicitly provides that no person for any reason (religious or not) that is allowed to perform marriages can be forced to perform a marriage they don't want to.
New Hampshire is also poised to pass a new marriage law. Like Governor Baldacci before today, New Hampshire Governor Lynch has not stated whether he would sign the bill.
Where there any problems before....most people feel that gays shouldn't marry. California did the right thing and put it to a vote, and shockingly enough, the people spoke. Let these gov's put it to a vote.
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Not all states have ballot initiatives and most states who do have them, abhor them as there is no protection for the minority as intended by James Madison.
For instance, could you have imagined a ballot initiative in Alabama during the the 60s? I have a feeling that African Americans would have had it even rougher than they did.
Every state has a mechanism in place to allow voters to decide the issue of homosexual marriage. It has happened more than 30 states. Your contention that the people actually voted in Massachusetts, Connecticut, Iowa, and Maine is simply not accurate.
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What are you pro homo marriage people's thoughts on polygamy?
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The Maine marriage bill, like Vermont's, contains religious conscience exemptions for churches and also explicitly provides that no person for any reason (religious or not) that is allowed to perform marriages can be forced to perform a marriage they don't want to.
New Hampshire is also poised to pass a new marriage law. Like Governor Baldacci before today, New Hampshire Governor Lynch has not stated whether he would sign the bill.
Where there any problems before....most people feel that gays shouldn't marry. California did the right thing and put it to a vote, and shockingly enough, the people spoke. Let these gov's put it to a vote.
That is simply NOT TRUE. Any religious organization can reject a marriage since they are a private Institution.
What they CAN`T do is perform Marriage on Government owned property and then use that land to discriminate by only marrying Heterosexuals. They can freely choose to marry or not to marry anyone they like in THEIR OWN church.
This is also affects the Establishment Clause of Separation of Church and State.
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What are you pro homo marriage people's thoughts on polygamy?
I'm pro polygamy, too.
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Every state has a mechanism in place to allow voters to decide the issue of homosexual marriage. It has happened more than 30 states. Your contention that the people actually voted in Massachusetts, Connecticut, Iowa, and Maine is simply not accurate.
No they don`t. All states DO NOT have ballot initiatives. Case in point, Vermont.
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I'm pro polygamy, too.
Fair enough. That is always my argument. I feel like if you are for gay marriage you should be for polygamy too.
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The Maine marriage bill, like Vermont's, contains religious conscience exemptions for churches and also explicitly provides that no person for any reason (religious or not) that is allowed to perform marriages can be forced to perform a marriage they don't want to.
New Hampshire is also poised to pass a new marriage law. Like Governor Baldacci before today, New Hampshire Governor Lynch has not stated whether he would sign the bill.
Where there any problems before....most people feel that gays shouldn't marry. California did the right thing and put it to a vote, and shockingly enough, the people spoke. Let these gov's put it to a vote.
Most people feel we should not be in Iraq or Afghanistan or that Waterboarding is Torture , yet you defend the minority view on those issues.
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Fair enough. That is always my argument. I feel like if you are for gay marriage you should be for polygamy too.
that argument isnt valid.
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LetVermontVote.org is about opening up Vermont’s political process to the citizens of Vermont. We’re concerned about activist judges and elitist legislators disenfranchising the electorate. We’re concerned that Vermont has no process for addressing the broad-based issues of the day and a Byzantine system of amending our state’s Constitution.
For example: As of April 2009 less than 400 Vermont voters have had any vote on same sex unions. That's counting our five Supreme Legislators with the Baker ruling, former Gov. Howard Dean and the General Assemblies in 2000, 2001 and 2009.
It's time to include all of Vermont's voters in the process by actually letting them vote on this issue!
Previous to April 2009, we advocated the Legislature using its powers to authorize a non-binding referendum asking voters if they affirm existing Vermont law. The question would be "Should marriage in Vermont continue to be solely between one man and one woman."
In the context of passing Vermont’s Same-Sex Marriage law, The Vermont Senate rejected a non-binding referendum with a vote of 19-11. Later the Vermont House turned the idea down 96-52. Both votes were credible showings of support for the idea of a referendum.
However, with the passage of Same-Sex Marriage in Vermont, the non-binding referendum no longer makes sense on this issue. The only other option afforded Vermont’s citizens is to call for a Constitutional Amendment to protect Traditional Marriage by putting it within the Vermont Constitution.
We will also continue to advocate for a Citizen’s Referendum process such as many other states have. But the next step is the Constitutional Amendment.
Ah.....how do u know. There are millions of people who feel we should be there, further this is foreign policy based on national security concerns, the other is a domestic/religious issue. They two aren't even close to the same. How many people supported the war when they kicked off?
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that argument isnt valid.
tbombz i need you to elaborate a little more to enlighten me ;D
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i never understood how a man cant be attracted to women.
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LetVermontVote.org is about opening up Vermont’s political process to the citizens of Vermont. We’re concerned about activist judges and elitist legislators disenfranchising the electorate. We’re concerned that Vermont has no process for addressing the broad-based issues of the day and a Byzantine system of amending our state’s Constitution.
For example: As of April 2009 less than 400 Vermont voters have had any vote on same sex unions. That's counting our five Supreme Legislators with the Baker ruling, former Gov. Howard Dean and the General Assemblies in 2000, 2001 and 2009.
It's time to include all of Vermont's voters in the process by actually letting them vote on this issue!
Previous to April 2009, we advocated the Legislature using its powers to authorize a non-binding referendum asking voters if they affirm existing Vermont law. The question would be "Should marriage in Vermont continue to be solely between one man and one woman."
In the context of passing Vermont’s Same-Sex Marriage law, The Vermont Senate rejected a non-binding referendum with a vote of 19-11. Later the Vermont House turned the idea down 96-52. Both votes were credible showings of support for the idea of a referendum.
However, with the passage of Same-Sex Marriage in Vermont, the non-binding referendum no longer makes sense on this issue. The only other option afforded Vermont’s citizens is to call for a Constitutional Amendment to protect Traditional Marriage by putting it within the Vermont Constitution.
We will also continue to advocate for a Citizen’s Referendum process such as many other states have. But the next step is the Constitutional Amendment.
Ah.....how do u know. There are millions of people who feel we should be there, further this is foreign policy based on national security concerns, the other is a domestic/religious issue. They two aren't even close to the same. How many people supported the war when they kicked off?
What are you trying to show here?
Vermont does not have a ballot initiative as I stated. What is your point, if any?
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Not all states have ballot initiatives and most states who do have them, abhor them as there is no protection for the minority as intended by James Madison.
For instance, could you have imagined a ballot initiative in Alabama during the the 60s? I have a feeling that African Americans would have had it even rougher than they did.
Its been on the ballot 33 times[I believe]its been destroyed 33 times.Sorry,as much as you libs cant stand it,people HATE fags.
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tbombz i need you to elaborate a little more to enlighten me ;D
take a reasoning class and learn how to make valid arguments and how to see if an argument is invalid
you argument is invalid
there is absolutely no reason why some one who supports equal marriage rights for every citizen would also have to support letting everybody marry multiple partners.
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Its been on the ballot 33 times[I believe]its been destroyed 33 times.Sorry,as much as you libs cant stand it,people HATE fags.
Why do they hate them? Do you hate gay people? If so, why?
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The time for congratulating yourself will soon be at an end
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What are you pro homo marriage people's thoughts on polygamy?
the problem with polygamy is that in the cultures where it is or was practiced, the women really have no say in the matter. Does a 16 or 18 year old girl born to that polygamist mormon sect really get to choose when or who she is married to? Polygamy was outlawed in this country because its implementation was abusive. come up with a way to protect the rights of young women, then we can talk.
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What are you pro homo marriage people's thoughts on polygamy?
Yep. Pro-Polygamy here as well. I could care less how many wives one wants.
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What are you trying to show here?
Vermont does not have a ballot initiative as I stated. What is your point, if any?
The people can't vote....what would happen if they did? I'll tell u...alot of people would vote no..the wack jobs in Montpelier and Burlington would vote yes, and there would be no gay marriage in Vermont. Let people vote...don't legislate on stuff like this. Gays acn do what ever the hell they want. But when they have piss contests at gay pride parades...dress in drag...and blow each other in public...thus pushing their gayness in our faces, thats when most people have a problem.
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No they don`t. All states DO NOT have ballot initiatives. Case in point, Vermont.
Wrong again. I said "every state has a mechanism in place to allow voters to decide the issue of homosexual marriage." That includes Vermont, which can amend its constitution by a vote of the people. http://www.iandrinstitute.org/New%20IRI%20Website%20Info/I&R%20Research%20and%20History/I&R%20at%20the%20Statewide%20Level/Constitution%20and%20Statutes/Vermont.pdf
You are also wrong about Massachusetts, Maine, and Iowa. But don't let the facts get in the way.
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Fair enough. That is always my argument. I feel like if you are for gay marriage you should be for polygamy too.
With that said,
Polygamy has NOTHING to do with gay marriage.
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take a reasoning class and learn how to make valid arguments and how to see if an argument is invalid
you argument is invalid
there is absolutely no reason why some one who supports equal marriage rights for every citizen would also have to support letting everybody marry multiple partners.
Letting one man marry multiple women and letting two homos get married are both variations of marriage. Currently there is a more vocal minority supporting gay marriage than there is for polygamy. There is no way to say that one variation is more correct or appropriate than the other.
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That was my point on the last "paste" I posted. The gays know full well they'll never get this crap passed. Imagine in there was no war and a booming economy...this would be page one news all day everyday...with no hope of getting it passed. Better slip it in now.
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Letting one man marry multiple women and letting two homos get married are both variations of marriage. Currently there is a more vocal minority supporting gay marriage than there is for polygamy. There is no way to say that one variation is more correct or appropriate than the other.
they are two seperate and different variations.
homosexual marriage is more correct and appropriate...... making sure all citizens have equal rights is always the first priority.
letting only heterosexuals get civil marriage and not letting bisexual and homosexuals get civil marriage.... that is unequal and unfair treatment from the government. its discrimination and it must be stopped, if the flag is still to represent freedom and equal rights.
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The time for congratulating yourself will soon be at an end
polls indicate otherwise
In the latest New York Times/CBS News poll, released on Monday, 31 percent of respondents over the age of 40 said they supported gay marriage. By contrast, 57 percent under age 40 said they supported it, a 26-point difference. Among the older respondents, 35 percent said they opposed any legal recognition of same-sex couples, be it marriage or civil unions. Among the younger crowd, just 19 percent held that view.
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God says marriage is between a man and a woman. Period
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The people can't vote....what would happen if they did? I'll tell u...alot of people would vote no..the wack jobs in Montpelier and Burlington would vote yes, and there would be no gay marriage in Vermont. Let people vote...don't legislate on stuff like this. Gays acn do what ever the hell they want. But when they have piss contests at gay pride parades...dress in drag...and blow each other in public...thus pushing their gayness in our faces, thats when most people have a problem.
Funny that you don`t feel the same way about Heterosexuals engaging in the same behavior.
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God says marriage is between a man and a woman. Period
people use to use the bible to prove that blacks marrying whites was against God's will too
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god says....
wait...
has god ever said anything?
i dont remember any god ever saying anything...
maybe thats because there never has been and never will be a god...
hhhmmmmmm
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people use to use the bible to prove that blacks marrying whites was against God's will too
It's not?
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god says....
wait...
has god ever said anything?
i dont remember any god ever saying anything...
maybe thats because there never has been and never will be a god...
hhhmmmmmm
I have watched the Evolution of Taylor right before my eyes and I am VERY impressed.
Taylor has jettisoned all the garbage that he was forced to deal with and undergo as child and teenager.
I am most impressed by his enlightenment and I know it will only continue.
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This shouldn't be news. Legalize it, as it should of have been a long time ago. It's sad that a civil right issue like this is even a topic of discussion. Live your own life and let them live theirs
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another victory for equality HAHAHAH
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I don`t understand what you are talking about.
This picture speaks for itself.
Pay attention.
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Richard J. Evans "Lying About Hitler: History, Holocaust Holocaust And The David Irving Trial"
Publisher: Basic Books 2001 | 336 Pages | ISBN: 0465021522; 9780465021529 | PDF | 16.2 MB
In ruling against the controversial historian David Irving in his libel suit against the American historian Deborah Lipstadt, last April 2000, the High Court in London labeled him a falsifier of history. No objective historian, declared the judge, would manipulate the documentary record in the way that Irving did. Richard J. Evans, a Cambridge historian and the chief advisor for the defense, uses this pivotal trial as a lens for exploring a range of difficult questions about the nature of the historian’s enterprise. For instance, don’t all historians in the end bring a subjective agenda to bear on their reading of the evidence? Is it possible that Irving lost his case not because of his biased history but because his agenda was unacceptable? The central issue in the trial—as for Evans in this book—was not the past itself, but the way in which historians study the past. In a series of short, sharp chapters, Richard Evans sets David Irving’s methods alongside the historical record in order to illuminate the difference between responsible and irresponsible history. The result is a cogent and deeply informed study in the nature of historical interpretation.
http://rapidshare.com/files/186710633/LyingAboutHitler.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/186710633/LyingAboutHitler.rar)
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This picture speaks for itself.
Pay attention.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=92811.0;attach=100910;image)
How does it speak to you?
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Will you be picking up and leaving N.C. and heading to Maine, now? :D
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lets let these twinks get married ::)
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If the choice was allow gay marriage or allow continued over spending and over taxation, I'd take gay marriage anyday.
Still don't understand why a civil union wasn't acceptible as it honored all benefits extended to married couples. Marriage is really an institution supporting family, having children and propagating the species.
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Quinnipiac University poll released last week found that a majority of people questioned, by a 55-38 percent margin, oppose gay marriage. But it also found that people, by a 57-38 percent margin, support civil unions
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Why do they hate them? Do you hate gay people? If so, why?
Honestly,I wouldnt vote for it or against it.I couldnt care less about it.In fact,I dont think I could find an issue I cared less about.However,have one boy on the playground call another kid a fag and see what happens.To this day its THE BIGGEST insult you can hurl.
Now,let me say this.I DO HATE fags like Perez Hilton.Loud limp wristed sissies.If your gay,why does that mean you have to speak with a lisp and act like a pansy?They are still men arent they?I know plent of gay guys and the vast majority act no differently then anyone else,you wouldnt know they were gay unless they told you.Why is there a certain type that flames.
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If the choice was allow gay marriage or allow continued over spending and over taxation, I'd take gay marriage anyday.
Still don't understand why a civil union wasn't acceptible as it honored all benefits extended to married couples. Marriage is really an institution supporting family, having children and propagating the species.
uh, 40 percent of babies born in the United States are born OUT of Wedlock.
40 percent of babies born in the United States in 2007 were delivered by unwed mothers, according to data released last month by the National Center for Health Statistics. The 1.7 million out-of-wedlock births, of 4.3 million total births, marked a more than 25 percent jump from five years before.
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Looks like child molestation will be on the rise in main :-X
How does marriage encourage child molestation? Can you please explain?
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in turkey we marry sheeps
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Great, another liberal state that wants to degrade America even more.
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No. Football is for "straight" men wishing to express their homoerotic tendencies and mask it as a heterosexual masquerade.
Pay attention.
LOL. WTF!? I'm guessing you've never played a competitive (team) sport in your life. Were you the kid who was always picked last for sport and just built up an irrational dislike for those who could play? Sports are a blast. To play at an elite level, like the NFL, doing what you enjoy and getting paid for it must be amazing.
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LOL. WTF!? I'm guessing you've never played a competitive (team) sport in your life. Were you the kid who was always picked last for sport and just built up an irrational dislike for those who could play? Sports are a blast. To play at an elite level, like the NFL, doing what you enjoy and getting paid for it must be amazing.
I swam for 12 years, ran track for 4 and Cross-Country for 4.
Hope this helps.
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Looks like you still do.
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I swam for 12 years, ran track for 4 and Cross-Country for 4.
Hope this helps.
So. It's just football that is the target of your gay slant!? ???
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The irony of a sticky stud worshiping douche slamming gay marriage is astounding.
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So. It's just football that is the target of your gay slant!? ???
Any sport that doesn`t accept or admit its own homo eroticism is my target. Football happens to be the most amusing to reveal and it is quite widespread and rampant.
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No. Football is for "straight" men wishing to express their homoerotic tendencies and mask it as a heterosexual masquerade.
Pay attention.
can you please provide some references to back up this statement.
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can you please provide some references to back up this statement.
Scroll back and view the study I posted earlier.
This is the thread.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=278783.50
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people use to use the bible to prove that blacks marrying whites was against God's will too
I'm not sure I've heard of that. Do you know what scriptures or passages they use to do this?
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can you please provide some references to back up this statement.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/10/071029100619.htm
Study: Over One-third Of Former American Football Players Had Sexual Relations With Men
ScienceDaily (Oct. 30, 2007) — A study of former high-school American Football players has found that more than a third said they had had sexual relations with other men.
In his study of homosexuality among sportsmen in the US, sociologist Dr Eric Anderson found that 19 in a sample of 47 had taken part in acts intended to sexually arouse other men, ranging from kissing to mutual masturbation and oral sex.
The 47 men, aged 18-23, were all American Football players who previously played at the high school (secondary school) level but had failed to be picked for their university’s team and were now cheerleaders instead. They were at various universities from the American south, Mid-West, west and north west.
Dr Anderson, now of the University of Bath, UK, said the study showed that society’s increasing open-mindedness about homosexuality and decreasing stigma concerning sexual activity with other men had allowed sportsmen to speak more openly about these sexual activities. He found that this sex came in the form of two men and one woman, as well as just two men alone.
He said that the sexual acts described differed from acts of ‘hazing’ or team-bonding that often include pretend-homosexual acts.
]“The evidence supports my assertion that homophobia is on the rapid decline among male teamsport athletes in North America at all levels of play,” he writes in his study, entitled ‘Being masculine is not about whom you sleep with…Heterosexual athletes contesting masculinity and the one-time rule of homosexuality’. It will be published in the journal Sex Roles in January.
“These finding differ from previous research on North American men who have sex with men, in several ways. First, previous research describes heterosexual men in heterogeneous group sex as men symbolically engaging in sexual practices with other men. However, I find informants actually engage in sexual activity with other men. But this does not mean that they are gay.
“Second, my informants do not feel that their same-sex sex jeopardizes their socially perceived heterosexual identities, at least within the cheerleading culture. In other words, having gay sex does not automatically make them gay in masculine peer culture.”
Dr Anderson, of the University’s Department of Education, said the same situation was also true for the UK.
He believes the positive portrayal of homosexuality on television, the ease with which homosexuals could gradually ‘come out’ by using the internet, the ability for straight men to talk with gay men on the internet, and the decline of religious fundamentalism has made homosexuality and homosexual acts considerably less controversial for university-aged men. This had made revealing the fact they had engaged in homosexual acts easier.
He said the study was not biased by talking to sportsmen who were now cheerleaders, which is often seen as a feminine activity. Those he interviewed were selected to represent men that considered themselves traditionally masculine, typical American Football players.
Dr Anderson was the first openly gay male high school sports coach in the US. He left coaching after one of his students was assaulted because it was assumed that he was gay. Dr Anderson is now working in the field of sport sociology at the University of Bath, and is the author of In the Game, Gay Athletes and the Cult of Masculinity.
“Men have traditionally been reluctant to do anything associated with homosexuality because they feared being perceived gay,” he said. “There has been pressure on them to conform to the notion that being male is about having traditionally masculine traits, in terms of dress, behaviours and sexual activities.
“But as more men are open about their varieties of sexuality, it becomes less stigmatized to be gay or to have sex with men. It is increasingly not a problem to act in otherwise non-traditional ways.
“I see this in other areas of my research too, including how men behave in straight nightclubs, where I find that university-aged men dance as much with each other than with women, and how heterosexual men are increasingly free to wear clothing styles or colours that once were taboo for them.
“This isn’t something that would have happened ten or twenty years ago. Times are changing and they are changing rapidly for men of this age.”
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in turkey we marry sheeps
Mehrzahl=sheep, ein sheep, zwei sheep
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How is this your victory?
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Any sport that doesn`t accept or admit its own homo eroticism is my target. Football happens to be the most amusing to reveal and it is quite widespread and rampant.
LOL. You're quite the crusader. Good luck with that.
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In his study of homosexuality among sportsmen in the US, sociologist Dr Eric Anderson found that 19 in a sample of 47 had taken part in acts intended to sexually arouse other men, ranging from kissing to mutual masturbation and oral sex.
The 47 men, aged 18-23, were all American Football players who previously played at the high school (secondary school) level but had failed to be picked for their university’s team and were now cheerleaders instead.
Interesting part of the study.
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How is this your victory?
Because I stand with homosexuals and join in their fight for equality. If I can help them achieve that, than I consider it a victory for all as they should be afforded the same rights under the law as anybody else.
"An injustice anywhere, is an injustice everywhere."- Samuel Johnson 1709-1784
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Excuse me....how big is the gay population in California....and prop 8 was voted down? I'm from Mass....the libs have pushed into NH and the rest of New England. People aren't slobbering to ok gay marriage, they never got to vote. The Vermont legislature ok'd it. That gov exists in a bubble. Montpelier and Burlington are very liberal, the rest of the state is very rural and not the kind of folks to buy off on gay marriage. The militant gays are pushing this shit because the average person has bigger worries.
As long as the people have to go through a liberal legislature, it will be difficult to reverse gay "marriage" laws. And that's what gay activists are banking on: That people will believe that there's nothing that they can do about it and just give up.
That's why these states are being targeted. However, whenever the people can directly amend their constitution or are able to easily throw out politicans who keep gumming up the works, thus getting an amendment on the ballot, we know what happens.
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Interesting part of the study.
Football does have a natural appeal for heterosexuals to engage in homosexuality as well as attracting homosexuals.
It is a fallacy that American Football is purely heterosexual.
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As long as the people have to go through a liberal legislature, it will be difficult to reverse gay "marriage" laws. And that's what gay activists are banking on: That people will believe that there's nothing that they can do about it and just give up.
That's why these states are being targeted. However, whenever the people can directly amend their constitution or are able to easily throw out politicans who keep gumming up the works, thus getting an amendment on the ballot, we know what happens.
Who fucking cares? Totally irrelevant to your life and mine...
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Because I stand with homosexuals and join in their fight for equality. If I can help them achieve that, than I consider it a victory for all as they should be afforded the same rights under the law as anybody else.
"An injustice anywhere, is an injustice everywhere."- Samuel Johnson 1709-1784
Honest question, are you a Homosexual? You seem to have a passion for homosexuality
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uh, 40 percent of babies born in the United States are born OUT of Wedlock.
40 percent of babies born in the United States in 2007 were delivered by unwed mothers, according to data released last month by the National Center for Health Statistics. The 1.7 million out-of-wedlock births, of 4.3 million total births, marked a more than 25 percent jump from five years before.
Ya, what do the stats look like if you take illegals out of the equation?
This stat is useless. There are so many ways it's corrupted...
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"He said the study was not biased by talking to sportsmen who were now cheerleaders, which is often seen as a feminine activity."
You are worse than Faux news.
Find me an interview and study done with FOOTBALL PLAYERS next time.
And try to make it a little more wide ranging, and a little less biased than 47 male cheerleaders who couldn't make the team.
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Mehrzahl=sheep, ein sheep, zwei sheep
you're walking on thin ice
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How does it speak to you?
How does it speak to me...?
It's a disturbing pic. :-[
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you're walking on thin ice
Ich bin ja Englischlehrer. Ich tue nur meine Pflicht, auch wenn du keine Dankbarkeit zeigst... :-\
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Ich bin ja Englischlehrer. Ich tue nur meine Pflicht, auch wenn du keine Dankbarkeit zeigst... :-\
:-* ;D
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I'm not sure I've heard of that. Do you know what scriptures or passages they use to do this?
You can use the Bible to justify anything; it is a huge book, filled to the brim with fiction...anyone with any imagination can justify anything....
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Honest question, are you a Homosexual? You seem to have a passion for homosexuality
I do have a passion for defending them as they have not been treated fairly or equally and I enjoy their company and it is pointless to discriminate because they simply view something as attractive where some may not or they prefer a certain sex over another. Why would you want to limit their freedoms or demonize them?
I personally think there is no black and white answer for anyone regarding this issue. People are neither homosexual or heterosexual as there is no basis to judge what a heterosexual or a homosexual bias is in its entirety.
For instance, on this site, you will see men commenting on other men`s physiques and saying things like, "Nice, thick Chest", "Great quads", does this mean they are gay? No. But are they admiring another man? Yes. So you cannot simply label this heterosexual or homosexual behavior and come away with a clear definition of what exactly it is.
Think of it as a sliding scale in which every man falls with few falling into an absolute category.
Furthermore, Heterosexual or Homosexual is in NO WAY indicative of character or intelligence or anything else. It is simply, "Do I like Rice or do I like Potatoes?" Nothing more.
I share Gore Vidal`s view on Human Sexuality. Please Watch.
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You are worse than Faux news.
Find me an interview and study done with FOOTBALL PLAYERS next time.
And try to make it a little more wide ranging, and a little less biased than 47 male cheerleaders who couldn't make the team.
They were football players BEFORE they were Cheerleaders. So what if they decided to be cheerleaders. That is irrelevant to the discussion. Is it not? They were gaying it up before they played football, while they played football and perhaps after. Cheerleading has ZERO to do with this.
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Ya, what do the stats look like if you take illegals out of the equation?
This stat is useless. There are so many ways it's corrupted...
QFM
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LOL. You're quite the crusader. Good luck with that.
Adam's a regurgitated textbook. I'm sure everyone at Backwoods Community College finds him sensitive, sophisticated, and refreshingly modern.
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I do have a passion for defending them as they have not been treated fairly or equally and I enjoy their company and it is pointless to discriminate because they simply view something as attractive where some may not or they prefer a certain sex over another. Why would you want to limit their freedoms or demonize them?
I personally think there is no black and white answer for anyone regarding this issue. People are neither homosexual or heterosexual as there is no basis to judge what a heterosexual or a homosexual bias is in its entirety.
For instance, on this site, you will see men commenting on other men`s physiques and saying things like, "Nice, thick Chest", "Great quads", does this mean they are gay? No. But are they admiring another man? Yes. So you cannot simply label this heterosexual or homosexual behavior and come away with a clear definition of what exactly it is.
Think of it as a sliding scale in which every man falls with few falling into an absolute category.
Furthermore, Heterosexual or Homosexual is in NO WAY indicative of character or intelligence or anything else. It is simply, "Do I like Rice or do I like Potatoes?" Nothing more.
I share Gore Vidal`s view on Human Sexuality. Please Watch.
"Yes" woulda been fine, cupcake.
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Who fucking cares? Totally irrelevant to your life and mine...
Then why do you keep bleating about it, making stupid comments every time someone posts about it?
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Adam's a regurgitated textbook. I'm sure everyone at Backwoods Community College finds him sensitive, sophisticated, and refreshingly modern.
Well, he's quoted the Good Doctor and trotted out Gore Vidal. However, I don't think he'll truly be satisfied until he's been nailed to a crucifix.
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Football does have a natural appeal for heterosexuals to engage in homosexuality as well as attracting homosexuals.
It is a fallacy that American Football is purely heterosexual.
maybe this is why they always pat and slap each others' butts?
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I swam for 12 years, ran track for 4 and Cross-Country for 4.
Hope this helps.
One of the few things you say I actually believe...
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I do have a passion for defending them as they have not been treated fairly or equally and I enjoy their company and it is pointless to discriminate because they simply view something as attractive where some may not or they prefer a certain sex over another. Why would you want to limit their freedoms or demonize them?
I personally think there is no black and white answer for anyone regarding this issue. People are neither homosexual or heterosexual as there is no basis to judge what a heterosexual or a homosexual bias is in its entirety.
For instance, on this site, you will see men commenting on other men`s physiques and saying things like, "Nice, thick Chest", "Great quads", does this mean they are gay? No. But are they admiring another man? Yes. So you cannot simply label this heterosexual or homosexual behavior and come away with a clear definition of what exactly it is.
Think of it as a sliding scale in which every man falls with few falling into an absolute category.
Furthermore, Heterosexual or Homosexual is in NO WAY indicative of character or intelligence or anything else. It is simply, "Do I like Rice or do I like Potatoes?" Nothing more.
I share Gore Vidal`s view on Human Sexuality. Please Watch.
I just asked you a simple question. Yea, i can say Phil Heath has nice full and round Muscle bellies, quad sweep, structure and all that crap but you totally avoided the question.
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Well, he's quoted the Good Doctor and trotted out Gore Vidal. However, I don't think he'll truly be satisfied until he's been nailed to a crucifix.
TA=has to be right=always=without exception
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Then why do you keep bleating about it, making stupid comments every time someone posts about it?
Does it keep you up at night? Do you experience health problems because of it? What the hell does it have to do with you and how does it affect you? Seriously, how does marriage in MAINE affect you?
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maybe this is why they always pat and slap each others' butts?
I do certainly believe that given the frequency of the patting of butts in football, surely extends beyond mere celebration as it can happen at any given moment.
The coaches even get involved sometimes patting the butts for them and then sending them off to the field for more butt patting.
Clearly, they could have shaken hands, simply nodded, gave a thumbs up, used a whole myriad of alternate gestures but instead, the emphasis is on butt patting or either hugging of some sort.
This behavior is not a fad either as it has been with football since its dawn and continues to flourish today.
Clearly there is more going on than any thus far, would be willing or would like to acknowledge.
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This will help add some perspective:
Start this video at 2:09
Now in the Bible it says
Thou shalt not watch two lesbians in bed,
Have homosexual sex
Unless of course you were given the consent to join in
Then of course, it's intercourse
And it's bi-sexual sex
Which isn't as bad, as long as you show some remorse for your actions
Either before, during or after peforming the act of that which
Is normally referred to have such, more commonly known phrases
That are more used by today's kids
In a more derogatory way but
Who's to say, what's fair to say, and what not to say?
Let's ask Dr. Dre
Dr. Dre? (What up?)
I gotta question if I may? (Yeah)
Is it gay to play Putt-Putt golf with a friend (Yeah)
And watch his butt-butt when he tees off? (Yeah)
But, ut! I ain't done yet
In football the quarterback yells out hutt-hutt
While he reaches in another grown man's ass
Grabs on his nuts but just what if
It was never meant it was just an accident
But he tripped, fell, slipped and his penis went in
His teeny tiny little round hiney but he didn't mean it
But his little weenie flinched just a little bit
And I don't mean to go in into any more details but
What if he pictured it as a females butt?
Is that gay? I just need to clear things up
Til then i'll just walk around with a manly strut because...
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TA why are you celebrating Gay marriage's???
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TA why are you celebrating Gay marriage's???
Scroll back and read my previous responses in this thread.
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Does it keep you up at night? Do you experience health problems because of it? What the hell does it have to do with you and how does it affect you? Seriously, how does marriage in MAINE affect you?
Hardly!!! At last count, I'm fit as a fiddle.
It doesn't have to affect me. Then again, you blubber and complain about a lot of mess that doesn't affect you. There's a point to this somewhere, I hope.
And, to top it all off, the people of Maine may get the final say after all, as there is something known there as the "people's veto". All it takes it 55,000 signatures and it goes on the ballot.
From Maine's governor, John Baldacci (courtesy of Baptist Press News)
Even as I sign this important legislation into law, I recognize that this may not be the final word. Just as the Maine Constitution demands that all people are treated equally under the law, it also guarantees that the ultimate political power in the State belongs to the people. While the good and just people of Maine may determine this issue, my responsibility is to uphold the Constitution and do, as best as possible, what is right. I believe that signing this legislation is the right thing to do."
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cool. common sense is spreading. slowly.
Tbombz, I know you have a beautiful girlfriend now that you are totally into and that's really cool.
But if things don't work out could you see yourself taking part in gay marriage?
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TA, should Polygynous and Polyandrous marriage be legalized?
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TA, should Polygynous and Polyandrous marriage be legalized?
Sorry, just read your earlier post! 8)
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Adam,
I'm glad you're embracing what folks identify as "progress," but I can't help but to harken back to the days when you poked fun at homosexual and/or bisexual Getbig members.
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the "good game" ass pat is a great motivator on and off the field
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God says marriage is between a man and a woman. Period
That might be a legitimate argument if this "God" character actually existed. ::)
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Adam,
I'm glad you're embracing what folks identify as "progress," but I can't help but to harken back to the days when you poked fun at homosexual and/or bisexual Getbig members.
You don`t need to harken back as I am friends with the ones you are referring to.
We were just going back and forth in jest. I think it is clear how I truly feel about Gays and I have nothing but support and respect for them and always have.
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You are just angry that your window for bigotry is shrinking.
Unlike your "backdoor" ;)
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Unlike your "backdoor" ;)
I bet that your "backdoor" is most likely wider since I am sure you are more obese than I am, thus you ingest more calories which in turn forces you to spit out turds at a greater frequency and of a larger diameter, thickness and length with the added effect of stretching your anal wall given the impact of the type of feces expelled.
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LOL
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Hardly!!! At last count, I'm fit as a fiddle.
It doesn't have to affect me. Then again, you blubber and complain about a lot of mess that doesn't affect you. There's a point to this somewhere, I hope.
And, to top it all off, the people of Maine may get the final say after all, as there is something known there as the "people's veto". All it takes it 55,000 signatures and it goes on the ballot.
From Maine's governor, John Baldacci (courtesy of Baptist Press News)
Even as I sign this important legislation into law, I recognize that this may not be the final word. Just as the Maine Constitution demands that all people are treated equally under the law, it also guarantees that the ultimate political power in the State belongs to the people. While the good and just people of Maine may determine this issue, my responsibility is to uphold the Constitution and do, as best as possible, what is right. I believe that signing this legislation is the right thing to do."
I don't 'blubber and complain' in a serious way about things that don't affect me.
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the "good game" ass pat is a great motivator on and off the field
i always wondered why cant they just pat or slap the guy's back or something? the LAST thing i want to touch is another mans ass.
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Looks like child molestation will be on the rise in main :-X
most child molesters are heterosexual and live in florida
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i always wondered why cant they just pat or slap the guy's back or something? the LAST thing i want to touch is another mans ass.
I wonder if any football players have a real dilemma about this. "To butt slap, or not to butt slap? That is the question".
And once they start, where do they stop? How do the determine when and what warrants a butt slap? How do they determine how hard or soft they butt slap?
Does butt slapping occur in practice as well? Does it extend beyond the football field?
Such pressing questions for the confused Heterosexual football player.
I imagine its an issue for the closeted gay football player. He may feel that if he butt slaps too much, he may be found out, ridiculed or worse beaten.
Then there is the openly gay football player. Is he allowed to Butt Slap? Does he butt slap the other straight players? Do they take kind to it?
Oh such great questions!
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most child molesters are heterosexual and live in florida
How do their percentages compare with their representation to the general public?
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most child molesters are heterosexual and live in florida australia
fixed!
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Tbombz, I know you have a beautiful girlfriend now that you are totally into and that's really cool.
But if things don't work out could you see yourself taking part in gay marriage?
anything is possible
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Hardly!!! At last count, I'm fit as a fiddle.
It doesn't have to affect me. Then again, you blubber and complain about a lot of mess that doesn't affect you. There's a point to this somewhere, I hope.
And, to top it all off, the people of Maine may get the final say after all, as there is something known there as the "people's veto". All it takes it 55,000 signatures and it goes on the ballot.
From Maine's governor, John Baldacci (courtesy of Baptist Press News)
Even as I sign this important legislation into law, I recognize that this may not be the final word. Just as the Maine Constitution demands that all people are treated equally under the law, it also guarantees that the ultimate political power in the State belongs to the people. While the good and just people of Maine may determine this issue, my responsibility is to uphold the Constitution and do, as best as possible, what is right. I believe that signing this legislation is the right thing to do."
fortunately maine is not your white trash state
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i never understood how a man cant be attracted to women.
The fools haven't read enough of your posts.
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fortunately maine is not your white trash state
Is Michigan a "white trash" state? How about Oregon or California?
I guess you forgot about all the "blue" states that passed marriage amendments. But, nice try!!
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i never understood how a man cant be attracted to women.
Your random posts of girls that have nothing to do with the thread title are great!
One of the few Getbigger posts I enjoy. ;)
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Is Michigan a "white trash" state? How about Oregon or California?
I guess you forgot about all the "blue" states that passed marriage amendments. But, nice try!!
california yes michigan YES oregon maybe never been there
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Great, another liberal state that wants to degrade America even more.
Right, because trialling the bonds of supposed holy matrimony four plus times upgrades America.
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Mehrzahl=sheep, ein sheep, zwei sheep
And remember to cycle your weights & volume through a training period of 6-8 weeks ;)
Also, strength is best acquired through frequent, non-exhaustive practice.
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Right, because trialling the bonds of supposed holy matrimony four plus times upgrades America.
JoeLoco is planning a visit to Maine soon...
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is that his 4th husband?
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You can use the Bible to justify anything; it is a huge book, filled to the brim with fiction...anyone with any imagination can justify anything....
So do you know the scriptures to which they refer re: an argument against interracial marriages? If anyone does... please post them...thanks.
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Fair enough. That is always my argument. I feel like if you are for gay marriage you should be for polygamy too.
Not expanding marriage to include multiple partners would be bigoted. Those poor people suffer many indignities and don't get the full rights 'traditional' married people enjoy.
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Not expanding marriage to include multiple partners would be bigoted. Those poor people suffer many indignities and don't get the full rights 'traditional' married people enjoy.
get active in your legislature just dont sit around running your mouth
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So do you know the scriptures to which they refer re: an argument against interracial marriages? If anyone does... please post them...thanks.
Exodus 34:10-16:
"And he said, Behold, I make a covenant: before all thy people I will do marvels ... behold, I drive out before thee the Amorite, and the Canaanite, and the Hittite, and the Perizzite, and the Hivite, and the Jebusite. Take heed to thyself, lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land whither thou goest, lest it be for a snare in the midst of thee: But ye shall destroy their altars, break their images, and cut down their groves: For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God; Lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land, and they go a whoring after their gods, and do sacrifice unto their gods, and one call thee, and thou eat of his sacrifice; And thou take of their daughters unto thy sons, and their daughters go a whoring after their gods, and make thy sons go a whoring after their gods."
2 Corinthians 6:14,
"Be ye not unequally yoked together with foreigners ...",
Deuteronomy 7:1-6.
"Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son. For they will turn away thy son from following me, that they may serve other gods: so will the anger of the LORD be kindled against you, and destroy thee suddenly"
Leviticus 19:19:
" . . . You shall not let your livestock breed with another kind. you shall not sow your field with mixed seed. "
Of course, it really doesn't matter what the "scriptures" say, since they're about as divinely inspired as a comic book. ::)
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Exodus 34:10-16:
"And he said, Behold, I make a covenant: before all thy people I will do marvels ... behold, I drive out before thee the Amorite, and the Canaanite, and the Hittite, and the Perizzite, and the Hivite, and the Jebusite. Take heed to thyself, lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land whither thou goest, lest it be for a snare in the midst of thee: But ye shall destroy their altars, break their images, and cut down their groves: For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God; Lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land, and they go a whoring after their gods, and do sacrifice unto their gods, and one call thee, and thou eat of his sacrifice; And thou take of their daughters unto thy sons, and their daughters go a whoring after their gods, and make thy sons go a whoring after their gods."
2 Corinthians 6:14,
"Be ye not unequally yoked together with foreigners ...",
Deuteronomy 7:1-6.
"Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son. For they will turn away thy son from following me, that they may serve other gods: so will the anger of the LORD be kindled against you, and destroy thee suddenly"
Leviticus 19:19:
" . . . You shall not let your livestock breed with another kind. you shall not sow your field with mixed seed. "
]Of course, it really doesn't matter what the "scriptures" say, since they're about as divinely inspired as a comic book. ::)
LOLOLOL
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get active in your legislature just dont sit around running your mouth
They don't get tax breaks, health insurance and may not exercise full parental rights because states doesn't polygamous marriages.
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So do you know the scriptures to which they refer re: an argument against interracial marriages? If anyone does... please post them...thanks.
also, Genesis 24:3, which says don't marry Canaanites. Christian white supremacists often believe that Canannites refers to Africans, or at least non-whites.
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And let's not forget 2 Corinthians 36:
"Thou shalt not purchase egg whites for the ridiculous price of $33/gallon".
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And let's not forget 2 Corinthians 36:
"Thou shalt not purchase egg whites for the ridiculous price of $33/gallon".
Fuck that price!!
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Isn't this like the 7th thread about gays started by Adam?
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Isn't this like the 7th thread about gays started by Adam?
There will be more. Rest assured. I am not done yet.
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And let's not forget 2 Corinthians 36:
"Thou shalt not purchase egg whites for the ridiculous price of $33/gallon".
Too bad it doesn't say that about gasoline or diesel fuel. :D It's a comin'
Maybe not today, ...maybe not tomorrow, ...maybe not next week, ...but it's coming. ;D
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I say we put polygamy to a vote.
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I say we put polygamy to a vote.
All voluntary associations should be permissible.
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All voluntary associations should be permissible.
I want recognition in all 50 states for them and full inclusion into the cultural/societal norm.
Let's face it... We have all gotten bored, at some time, banging the same chick. Why should the state be allowed to limit the definition of marriage to only include couples? Some of the primo pussy may be in possession of chicks who need the protection of marriage or its religious ceremony to put out.
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I say we put polygamy to a vote.
{blibk} {blink} You know where I stand. :D
I'm scoping living quarters for my harem as we speak. ;D
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Exodus 34:10-16:
"And he said, Behold, I make a covenant: before all thy people I will do marvels ... behold, I drive out before thee the Amorite, and the Canaanite, and the Hittite, and the Perizzite, and the Hivite, and the Jebusite. Take heed to thyself, lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land whither thou goest, lest it be for a snare in the midst of thee: But ye shall destroy their altars, break their images, and cut down their groves: For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God; Lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land, and they go a whoring after their gods, and do sacrifice unto their gods, and one call thee, and thou eat of his sacrifice; And thou take of their daughters unto thy sons, and their daughters go a whoring after their gods, and make thy sons go a whoring after their gods."
2 Corinthians 6:14,
"Be ye not unequally yoked together with foreigners ...",
Deuteronomy 7:1-6.
"Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son. For they will turn away thy son from following me, that they may serve other gods: so will the anger of the LORD be kindled against you, and destroy thee suddenly"
Leviticus 19:19:
" . . . You shall not let your livestock breed with another kind. you shall not sow your field with mixed seed. "
Of course, it really doesn't matter what the "scriptures" say, since they're about as divinely inspired as a comic book. ::)
Thanks for posting these Goat but none of them refer to interracial marriage as far as I can tell.
also, Genesis 24:3, which says don't marry Canaanites. Christian white supremacists often believe that Canannites refers to Africans, or at least non-whites.
White supremicists may believe that Canannites refer to non-whites, but that doen't mean it is fact. But thanks Tim, you answered my question as to which scripture people use in an argument against interracial marriage.
I still have never seen scriptures forbidding interracial marriage. The main reason for the forbidding of marrying "foreigners" was so they wouldn't affect the Jews beliefs and "encourage them to follow other gods" etc.
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There will be more. Rest assured. I am not done yet.
Oh I believe that! Sounds like you're at the threshold of the closet doors, why stop now?
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the old testament is basically a book of jewish-supremacist rules and guidelines.
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Thanks for posting these Goat but none of them refer to interracial marriage as far as I can tell.
White supremicists may believe that Canannites refer to non-whites, but that doen't mean it is fact. But thanks Tim, you answered my question as to which scripture people use in an argument against interracial marriage.
I still have never seen scriptures forbidding interracial marriage. The main reason for the forbidding of marrying "foreigners" was so they wouldn't affect the Jews beliefs and "encourage them to follow other gods" etc.
The Bible means whatever you want it to mean, as long as it suits your personal beliefs and the contradictions contained therein are ignored.
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Thanks for posting these Goat but none of them refer to interracial marriage as far as I can tell.
White supremicists may believe that Canannites refer to non-whites, but that doesn't mean it is fact.
you didn't ask for evidence that God believes interracial marriages are wrong. you asked for quotes from some book that people have used to claim that God believes interracial marriages are wrong.
Evangelicals may believe [fill in the blank] but that doesn't mean it's fact.
[btw, the scientific method shows the Universe is 15 billion years old, the earth is 4.5 billion years old, humans first showed up hundreds of thousands of years ago, human civilization is 30-50,000 years old, and the historical events mentioned in the bible start about 4000 years ago.]
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you didn't ask for evidence that God believes interracial marriages are wrong. you asked for quotes from some book that people have used to claim that God believes interracial marriages are wrong.
Evangelicals may believe [fill in the blank] but that doesn't mean it's fact.
[btw, the scientific method shows the Universe is 15 13 billion years old, the earth is 4.5 billion years old, humans first showed up hundreds of thousands of years ago, human civilization is 30-50,000 years old, and the historical fictitious events mentioned in the bible start about 4000 years ago.] most likely never happened
Fixed
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you didn't ask for evidence that God believes interracial marriages are wrong. you asked for quotes from some book that people have used to claim that God believes interracial marriages are wrong.
I know... and you answered my question. I'm confused by your above post ???
you didn't ask for evidence that God believes interracial marriages are wrong. you asked for quotes from some book that people have used to claim that God believes interracial marriages are wrong.
Evangelicals may believe [fill in the blank] but that doesn't mean it's fact.
[btw, the scientific method shows the Universe is 15 billion years old, the earth is 4.5 billion years old, humans first showed up hundreds of thousands of years ago, human civilization is 30-50,000 years old,
What scientific method? Do you have faith that it is accurate?
and the historical events mentioned in the bible start about 4000 years ago.]
Hadn't heard the 4000 years ago stance before. What historical events do you mean? You mean creation of the world or life or ....?
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I know... and you answered my question. I'm confused by your above post ???
What scientific method? Do you have faith that it is accurate?
Hadn't heard the 4000 years ago stance before. What historical events do you mean? You mean creation of the world or life or ....?
LOL. This is your favourite line. 'Scientists have faith in the scientific method'.
All of these professional scientists are working on their science with 'faith' according to Stella. Funny how she has never answered this...Engineers use 'faith' to figure out structural equations, the periodic table is an article of 'faith'...come on Stella, you going to answer this?
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LOL. This is your favourite line. 'Scientists have faith in the scientific method'.
That's my favorite line? How often have I said that (not sure I ever remember saying that)?
All of these professional scientists are working on their science with 'faith' according to Stella.
Not sure I've addressed the scientist's faith....but you and others that are not "professional scientists" as you say, do have faith in them and what they (the "professional scientists") say/write/deem as true...is that correct or not?
Engineers use 'faith' to figure out structural equations, the periodic table is an article of 'faith'...come on Stella, you going to answer this?
STructural equations and the Periodic Table? Not sure we have specifically discussed these?
If something can be proven mathmatically, no faith is needed.
Are you saying you don't have faith in what scientists have written regarding the geological column and carbon dating that you accept as true that you have never seen proven in front of your own eyes ???
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Imagine when we have all these wedge issues out of the way we can make real progress! ;)
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Hadn't heard the 4000 years ago stance before. What historical events do you mean? You mean creation of the world or life or ....?
the bible does contain descriptions of historical events, such as pharaohs, and Babylon, and lineages of tribal chieftains (aka Jewish kings). just like with the ancient Greeks, there is some historical events mixed in with the mythology, and some mythology mixed in with the historical events.
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I bet that your "backdoor" is most likely wider since I am sure you are more obese than I am, thus you ingest more calories which in turn forces you to spit out turds at a greater frequency and of a larger diameter, thickness and length with the added effect of stretching your anal wall given the impact of the type of feces expelled.
LOL...Wow you put a lot of thought into this...but the big difference is that my big turds go one way...you have on the other hand,have big meat going in and out..hence, your anal wall is probably stretched much, much more :D