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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: MB_722 on May 06, 2009, 05:24:43 PM
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what do you think?
what else is there that is better than powerade and gatorade?
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always use 4 scoops and 10 grams of BCAA post WO.
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you can buy pure dextrose from any supplement store
I prefer gatorade powder myself
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you can buy pure dextrose from any supplement store
I prefer gatorade powder myself
don't mean to sound like a know it all. I knew about the dextrose. :D
is there anything else that is pre-made, with BCAA?
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don't mean to sound like a know it all. I knew about the dextrose. :D
is there anything else that is pre-made, with BCAA?
just swallow the BCAA powder dry and chase it with the gatorade, i know it sounds nasty but most of them don't mix well with liquids, you'll get used to it.
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don't mean to sound like a know it all. I knew about the dextrose. :D
is there anything else that is pre-made, with BCAA?
just throw some protein powder in like the rest of us
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Powerade is a staple of every workout of mine. I have like 50 bottles at home, I can't be bothered mixing shit ;D
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Powerade is a staple of every workout of mine. I have like 50 bottles at home, I can't be bothered mixing shit ;D
besides being more expensive, the bottles have more high fructose corn syrup and less dextrose than powder
something to consider
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besides being more expensive, the bottles have more high fructose corn syrup and less dextrose than powder
something to consider
this is why I want something else.
the HFCS kills it imo.
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besides being more expensive, the bottles have more high fructose corn syrup and less dextrose than powder
something to consider
I was not aware of this :(
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You shouldn't really be drinking any fluids at the gym.
Also I wouldn't advise eating food within 12 hours of a gym session
You want all the blood in the muscle, not in your stomach digesting food and water
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powerade and gatorade are basically just high fructose syrup.
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You shouldn't really be drinking any fluids at the gym.
Also I wouldn't advise eating food within 12 hours of a gym session
You want all the blood in the muscle, not in your stomach digesting food and water
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Waste of money yes, but healthier choice than soda.
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Waste of money yes, but healthier choice than soda.
no its not, both are basically high fuctose corn syrup. same shit, one has no carbonation and different taste.
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no its not, both are basically high fuctose corn syrup. same shit, one has no carbonation and different taste.
I just meant gatorade has slightly less carbs and calories per volume than say Pepsi or Mt. Dew.
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gatorade powder is great - perfect for spiking insulin post-workout
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powerade and gatorade are basically just high fructose syrup.
Before you draw blanket conclusions, this is one of my reference sites I use.
http://www.gssiweb.com/Default.aspx
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gatorade powder is the only i carb i use for the most part.
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It's good for REAL athletes... ie. hockey, basketball, football players... full of electrolytes and anti oxidants
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coconut water
http://www.vitacoco.com/benefits.html
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you can buy pure dextrose from any supplement store
I prefer gatorade powder myself
I also use the powder, 2 tbps when I wake up mixed with creatine and 2 after w/o along with 3 scoops of Musclemilk.
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lucozade <3
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Fuck Gatorade. Plazmosis is the shit!
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I have used powdered Powerade as opposed to Gatorade, as it has Dextrose listed as it's main ingredient, while I think Gatorade's is fructose. Two scoops of Now Nutrition's vanilla whey isolate and three scoops of Powerade's Mountian Blue flavor mixed with water postworkout, and it tastes like cotton candy. mmmm
To QuakerOates, I take BCAA caps or powder pre-workout, but post-workout I figure the whey will supply enough. Do you take the 10g of BCAA powder post-workout in addition to protein powder?
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One word...........WATER!!
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I'm assuming you're referring to drinking powerade or Gatorade post workout.
I just have whey isolate and waxy maize starch post-workout.
During the workout I just drink water.
Pre-workout I have a meal replacement drink which is basically whey mixed with oats and barley and also some NO-Explode.
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I have used powdered Powerade as opposed to Gatorade, as it has Dextrose listed as it's main ingredient, while I think Gatorade's is fructose. Two scoops of Now Nutrition's vanilla whey isolate and three scoops of Powerade's Mountian Blue flavor mixed with water postworkout, and it tastes like cotton candy. mmmm
To QuakerOates, I take BCAA caps or powder pre-workout, but post-workout I figure the whey will supply enough. Do you take the 10g of BCAA powder post-workout in addition to protein powder?
no, the reason i use the 10 grams is because i don't use whey after workouts, i drink the gatorade and BCAA's and then eat 15-20 minutes after that.
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gay drink gaytorade ;D
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30g dextrose during workout - 50g dextrose+50g whey protein post workout = ultimate recipe for ze anabolic state.
8) :D :D :D
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taking bcaa is stupid, it has zero benefits over regular protein powder.
you are just burning cash for something that tastes like shit :-X
also boost you are dumbest guy ever to post on here - don't eat for 12 hours around the workout ??? steroids don't build muscle they only make you stronger ???
you must be a fucking monster. ::)
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taking bcaa is stupid, it has zero benefits over regular protein powder.
you are just burning cash for something that tastes like shit :-X
also boost you are dumbest guy ever to post on here - don't eat for 12 hours around the workout ??? steroids don't build muscle they only make you stronger ???
you must be a fucking monster. ::)
necrosis/usmokepole has illustrated to you before many times how taking certain amin accids alone provides different benefits than taking them in a whole food source.
and besides that point, taking bcaa's is not stupid, if your not going to be taking whey (which QO said he doesnt do)
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necrosis/usmokepole has illustrated to you before many times how taking certain amin accids alone provides different benefits than taking them in a whole food source.
and besides that point, taking bcaa's is not stupid, if your not going to be taking whey (which QO said he doesnt do)
Necrosis argued that individual bcaa have specific/different effects vs taken as a complete protein source. i disagreed as there has never been a study that compares equal bcaa vs complete source with the same amounts of bcaa in each.
i have since found one though, and guess what the outcome was ;) ;D
i have other studies also candy. you should know me by now.
The facts are if you like wasting money on a bitter, horrible tasting bcaa powder rather than drinking cheaper tastier whey then you = stupid.
there is also more bcaa's in a single chicken breast than there is in 10 bcaa caps. you still think its smart to take them ?
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Necrosis argued that individual bcaa have specific/different effects vs taken as a complete protein source. i disagreed as there has never been a study that compares equal bcaa vs complete source with the same amounts of bcaa in each.
i have since found one though, and guess what the outcome was ;) ;D
i have other studies also candy. you should know me by now.
The facts are if you like wasting money on a bitter, horrible tasting bcaa powder rather than drinking cheaper tastier whey then you = stupid.
there is also more bcaa's in a single chicken breast than there is in 10 bcaa caps. you still think its smart to take them ?
i never said i thought bcaa's were superior to whey
and nneither did necrosis, only that there are different effects
and if one is NOT comsuming whey, then taking bcaa would be good
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I agree with you my friend, you are right. :)
Also, IMO Casein is much much better than Whey.
i agree my friend - casien is better than whey - but a mixture of both is better than either.
candi do you like apples?
Interrelationship between Physical Activity and Branched-Chain Amino Acids1
Michael Gleeson2
School of Sport and Exercise Sciences, Loughborough University, Loughborough, Leicestershire, LE11 3TU,
England, UK
ABSTRACT Some athletes can have quite high intakes of branched-chain amino acids (BCAAs) because of their
high energy and protein intakes and also because they consume protein supplements, solutions of protein
hydrolysates, and free amino acids. The requirement for protein may actually be higher in endurance athletes than
in sedentary individuals because some amino acids, including the BCAAs, are oxidized in increased amounts
during exercise compared with rest, and they must therefore be replenished by the diet. In the late 1970s, BCAAs
were suggested to be the third fuel for skeletal muscle after carbohydrate and fat. However, the majority of later
studies, using various exercise and treatment designs and several forms of administration of BCAAs (infusion, oral,
and with and without carbohydrates), have failed to find a performance-enhancing effect. No valid scientific
evidence supports the commercial claims that orally ingested BCAAs have an anticatabolic effect during and after
exercise in humans or that BCAA supplements may accelerate the repair of muscle damage after exercise. The
recommended protein intakes for athletes (1.2 to 1.8 g kg body mass–1 d–1) do not seem to be harmful. Acute
intakes of BCAA supplements of about 10–30 g/d seem to be without ill effect. However, the suggested reasons
for taking such supplements have not received much support from well-controlled scientific studies. J. Nutr. 135:
1591S–1595S, 2005.
how'd you like dem apples ?
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i agree my friend - casien is better than whey - but a mixture of both is better than either.
candi do you like apples?
how'd you like dem apples ?
that doesnt really say anything. its not a study either. just like a paragraph written by somebody in the form of a study. if one isnt taking whey- bcaa is a good option instead. thats all.
whey and casein - they are different..... i woudlnt say one is necessarly "better" than the other... just better in certain situations... however when they are put side by side in real studies to examine effectiveness.... whey results in more nitrogen retention at the end of the day compared to casein.... so in fact whey, if we had to choose one to be "better" , whey would be it.
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i never said i thought bcaa's were superior to whey
and nneither did necrosis, only that there are different effects
and if one is NOT comsuming whey, then taking bcaa would be good
i disagree with necroisis and studies are further along now - perhaps he has changed him mind since.
any complete protein source provides more than enough bcaa. more than you would/could afford in a bcaa powder or caps.
you don't even need to take whey or casein - a few chicken breasts would be more than enough.
here is a post a guy on bb.com made that really proved the point of how stupid it is to take bcaa:
Go get a cup of coffee. I'm about to debunk the myth of the "BCAA Supplement"
BCAA (Branched Chain Amino Acids)
leucine (LEU)
isoleucine (ILE)
valine (VAL)
Honorable mention non-branched Amino Acid: Glutamine (GLN)
Amino Acid abbreviations listed here
Some common BCAA Supps (grams per serving, servings per container, cost per gram of AA):
Optimum BCAA 5000 Powder - 60 Servings, $24
2.5 LEU....$0.16/gram
1.25 ILE....$0.32/gram
1.25 VAL....$0.32/gram
SciVation Xtend - 90 Servings, $50
3.5 LEU....$0.158/gram
1.8 ILE....$0.309/gram
1.8 VAL....$0.309/gram
2.5 GLN....$0.222/gram
SciFit BCAA Powder 5000 - 200 Servings, $54
2.3 LEU....$0.117/gram
0.78 ILE....$0.346/gram
1.92 VAL....$0.140/gram
A Dairy Product Found in Every Grocery Store in the World
Cottage Cheese - Six (4 oz) servings per container, $2.79
6.388 g LEU....$0.072 /g
3.652 g ILE....$0.127 /g
3.848 g VAL....$0.121 /g
Interesting...
Wait, what else is in cottage cheese?
Hm............
???
Oh yeah, ALL THE OTHER AMINO ACIDS!!
(http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/9330/aminos.png)
I see.
Let's tabulate that shit....
...30 servings of each supplement, what you get in 30 servings, and the total cost of 30 servings:
Optimum BCAA 5000 Powder 30 servings, $12
75 grams LEU
37.5 grams ILE
37.5 grams VAL
SciVation Xtend - 30 Servings, $16.67
105 grams LEU
54 grams ILE
54 grams VAL
75 grams GLN
SciFit BCAA Powder 5000 - 30 Servings, $8.09
69 grams LEU
23.4 grams ILE
57.6 grams VAL
Cottage Cheese - 30 servings (120 oz = 5 containers = $13.95)
191.64 grams LEU
109.56 grams ILE
115.44 grams VAL
40.56 grams GLY
96.72 grams ALA
56.04 grams MET
100.44 grams PHE
20.76 grams TRP1
215.88 grams PRO
104.52 grams SER
82.56 grams THR
17.28 grams CYS
99.24 grams TYR
??? grams ASN
??? grams GLN
126.12 grams ASP
403.56 grams GLU
150.6 grams LYS
85.08 grams ARG
61.92 grams HIS
Shit, you could take HALF servings of cottage cheese and get the same amount of BCAAs
Half Serving of Cottage Cheese
3.194 g LEU
1.826 g ILE
1.924 g VAL
^ This would cost $6.975 / month
Full Serving of BCAA (Scivation Extend in this case)
3.5 g LEU
1.8 g ILE
1.8 g VAL
2.5 g GLN
^ This would cost $16.67 / month
(and lack the other 16 amino acids)
(http://www.bauerphoto.com/adport/adpics/mBurningMoneyBrown.jpg)
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i disagree with necroisis and studies are further along now - perhaps he has changed him mind since.
any complete protein source provides more than enough bcaa. more than you would/could afford in a bcaa powder or caps.
you don't even need to take whey or casein - a few chicken breasts would be more than enough.
here is a post a guy on bb.com made that really proved the point of how stupid it is to take bcaa:
thats all good and well.
of course bcaa are found in food and whey and casein.
however if your not eating food or whey or casein....
then bcaa would be necessary
and QO said he wasnt taking whey(or anything else)...soooo... then taking them would be necessary
and also, taking bcaa in whole food does have different effects than taking them alone. just like leucine alone has different effects than in food, and arginine alone has different effects than in food.
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that doesnt really say anything. its not a study either. just like a paragraph written by somebody in the form of a study. if one isnt taking whey- bcaa is a good option instead. thats all.
whey and casein - they are different..... i woudlnt say one is necessarly "better" than the other... just better in certain situations... however when they are put side by side in real studies to examine effectiveness.... whey results in more nitrogen retention at the end of the day compared to casein.... so in fact whey, if we had to choose one to be "better" , whey would be it.
ffs don't be pedantic - search for the full paper - ITS AN AMINO ACID WORKSHOP THAT DISCUSSES THE RESULTS OF STUDIES DONE ON BCAA. all the studies are referenced ::)
as for whey over casien - wrong again.
whey has zero anti catabolic effects but provides synthesis - casien provides an anti catabolic effect and synthesis, leading to greater overall nitrogen retention.
would you like the study for that one too ;)
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ffs don't be pedantic - search for the full paper - ITS AN AMINO ACID WORKSHOP THAT DISCUSSES THE RESULTS OF STUDIES DONE ON BCAA. all the studies are referenced ::)
as for whey over casien - wrong again.
whey has zero anti catabolic effects but provides synthesis - casien provides an anti catabolic effect and synthesis, leading to greater overall nitrogen retention.
would you like the study for that one too ;)
sure post it up, because ive seen a million that show whey destroys casein. and because i believ csein does not provide synthesis... it only covers breakdown... because it digest so slowly..about the rate at which your body is naturally breaking down protein... and whey does stop breakdown...for about 3 hours... during that same time synthesis is dramatically increased... not to mention other benefits of whey on the immune system, fat loss, etc
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thats all good and well.
of course bcaa are found in food and whey and casein.
however if your not eating food or whey or casein....
then bcaa would be necessary
and QO said he wasnt taking whey(or anything else)...soooo... then taking them would be necessary
and also, taking bcaa in whole food does have different effects than taking them alone. just like leucine alone has different effects than in food, and arginine alone has different effects than in food.
hahahahaha is quaker living on the moon where he has no access to normal food?
he could drink milk, or eat a chicken breat and get much more bcaa for 66% cheaper.
but yes if he was stuck on a spaceship flying through a black hole with only 1 gallon jugs of bcaa to sustain him then yes bcaa would be more effective for muscle mass than no food at all. ::)
taking bcaa has ABSOLUTLY NO ADVANTAGES OVER EATING THEM IN A WHOLE PROTEIN SOURCE - READ THAT PAPER.
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Interesting, people still purchase BCAA's?
I haven't taken any source of protein other than real food in almost a year. I don't even buy protein powder anymore, just eat 4-5 clean meals a day and you will grow.
As for Gatorade, i know guys who mix the powder in with their Slin shake but i drink mainly water and tea throughout the day.
8)
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sure post it up, because ive seen a million that show whey destroys casein. and because i believ csein does not provide synthesis... it only covers breakdown... because it digest so slowly..about the rate at which your body is naturally breaking down protein... and whey does stop breakdown...for about 3 hours... during that same time synthesis is dramatically increased... not to mention other benefits of whey on the immune system, fat loss, etc
i hope you actually read this one:
Slow and fast dietary proteins differently modulate postprandial protein accretion.Boirie Y, Dangin M, Gachon P, Vasson MP, Maubois JL, Beaufrère B.
Laboratoire de Nutrition Humaine, Université Clermont Auvergne, Centre de Recherche en Nutrition Humaine, BP 321, 63009 Clermont-Ferrand Cedex 1, France.
The speed of absorption of dietary amino acids by the gut varies according to the type of ingested dietary protein. This could affect postprandial protein synthesis, breakdown, and deposition. To test this hypothesis, two intrinsically 13C-leucine-labeled milk proteins, casein (CAS) and whey protein (WP), of different physicochemical properties were ingested as one single meal by healthy adults. Postprandial whole body leucine kinetics were assessed by using a dual tracer methodology. WP induced a dramatic but short increase of plasma amino acids. CAS induced a prolonged plateau of moderate hyperaminoacidemia, probably because of a slow gastric emptying. Whole body protein breakdown was inhibited by 34% after CAS ingestion but not after WP ingestion. Postprandial protein synthesis was stimulated by 68% with the WP meal and to a lesser extent (+31%) with the CAS meal. Postprandial whole body leucine oxidation over 7 h was lower with CAS (272 +/- 91 micromol.kg-1) than with WP (373 +/- 56 micromol.kg-1). Leucine intake was identical in both meals (380 micromol.kg-1). Therefore, net leucine balance over the 7 h after the meal was more positive with CAS than with WP (P < 0.05, WP vs. CAS). In conclusion, the speed of protein digestion and amino acid absorption from the gut has a major effect on whole body protein anabolism after one single meal. By analogy with carbohydrate metabolism, slow and fast proteins modulate the postprandial metabolic response, a concept to be applied to wasting situations.
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hahahahaha is quaker living on the moon where he has no access to normal food?
he could drink milk, or eat a chicken breat and get much more bcaa for 66% cheaper.
but yes if he was stuck on a spaceship flying through a black hole with only 1 gallon jugs of bcaa to sustain him then yes bcaa would be more effective for muscle mass than no food at all. ::)
taking bcaa has ABSOLUTLY NO ADVANTAGES OVER EATING THEM IN A WHOLE PROTEIN SOURCE - READ THAT PAPER.
i said that i eat 14 ounces of chicken and rice 15-20 minutes after the BCAA's, basically i have the food waiting for me when i get home from the gym.
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i said that i eat 14 ounces of chicken and rice 15-20 minutes after the BCAA's, basically i have the food waiting for me when i get home from the gym.
have a glass of milk instead - its cheaper and tastes better. :)
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have a glass of milk instead - its cheaper and tastes better. :)
that would be great if i had a way to keep it cold. ::)
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Also, IMO Casein is much much better than Whey.
stfu
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i disagree with necroisis and studies are further along now - perhaps he has changed him mind since.
any complete protein source provides more than enough bcaa. more than you would/could afford in a bcaa powder or caps.
you don't even need to take whey or casein - a few chicken breasts would be more than enough.
here is a post a guy on bb.com made that really proved the point of how stupid it is to take bcaa:
you should listen to this man, after all- would you not like to look like this- 200 pounds and ripped by his own admission.
he looks like he knows what he's talking about...
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I was spending like 3 quid a day in gym on 3 bottles of juice.
Now i can get 10 for 3quid when i just use Tesco's own brand stuff. Tastes better IMO
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Hey guys, lay off Panda, he's my pal. We have similar struggles in the fat department. There but for the grace of God, and all that.
One thing though, Panda; blacking-up is inapproriate these days. You MUST hire a black artiste LOL!
As for all that shite about BCCAs versus whole food sources, water versus this versus that...
I occasionally like to have maybe seven beers an hour before a workout. True, dehydration saps one's strength and I always have to piss between sets, but the danger element is a RUSH!
DAMY
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I was spending like 3 quid a day in gym on 3 bottles of juice.
Now i can get 10 for 3quid when i just use Tesco's own brand stuff. Tastes better IMO
^^ goudy finally admits to juicing
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not to mention other benefits of whey on the immune system, fat loss, etc
Don't talk about FAT loss he will be down the bakers (from depression) before you can say Whey/casein !!
Just those two word together makes him go all weak at the knees.
Or is that his Obese frame when he stands ??? ??? ???
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have a glass of milk instead - its cheaper and tastes better. :)
Which is why you look like shit & I look like this................
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i hope you actually read this one:
Slow and fast dietary proteins differently modulate postprandial protein accretion.Boirie Y, Dangin M, Gachon P, Vasson MP, Maubois JL, Beaufrère B.
Laboratoire de Nutrition Humaine, Université Clermont Auvergne, Centre de Recherche en Nutrition Humaine, BP 321, 63009 Clermont-Ferrand Cedex 1, France.
The speed of absorption of dietary amino acids by the gut varies according to the type of ingested dietary protein. This could affect postprandial protein synthesis, breakdown, and deposition. To test this hypothesis, two intrinsically 13C-leucine-labeled milk proteins, casein (CAS) and whey protein (WP), of different physicochemical properties were ingested as one single meal by healthy adults. Postprandial whole body leucine kinetics were assessed by using a dual tracer methodology. WP induced a dramatic but short increase of plasma amino acids. CAS induced a prolonged plateau of moderate hyperaminoacidemia, probably because of a slow gastric emptying. Whole body protein breakdown was inhibited by 34% after CAS ingestion but not after WP ingestion. Postprandial protein synthesis was stimulated by 68% with the WP meal and to a lesser extent (+31%) with the CAS meal. Postprandial whole body leucine oxidation over 7 h was lower with CAS (272 +/- 91 micromol.kg-1) than with WP (373 +/- 56 micromol.kg-1). Leucine intake was identical in both meals (380 micromol.kg-1). Therefore, net leucine balance over the 7 h after the meal was more positive with CAS than with WP (P < 0.05, WP vs. CAS). In conclusion, the speed of protein digestion and amino acid absorption from the gut has a major effect on whole body protein anabolism after one single meal. By analogy with carbohydrate metabolism, slow and fast proteins modulate the postprandial metabolic response, a concept to be applied to wasting situations.
Reading it & understanding it are - NOT THE SAME THING - at all 'FP' - but being in pre-contest condition, you would know this,huh ??
Most all BB'ers eat every 2/2.5 hrs - so why would you need Casein - other than before bed with some boiled Eggs ?? (me I just have the Eggs with some Glutamine).
Whey & other protein powders/solid foods are - ALL - best for waking nitrogen balance, protein synthesis.
How many pro BB'ers have we heard spouting this nonsense to which you (wrongly) subscribe ??
The largest study group available on the planet for this kind of study are BB'ers them-selves - case closed ::)
So, do you have any more industry shattering advice under your pillow.................. ............
Or was that it ?? :-*
I am off to do Delt's & Tricep - enjoy your doughnut & crisp sandwiches that you have in your lunch box, under your desk in that florescent lit cubicle hell, fatty ;)
I will be sure to think of you as I check oput the hot girl who always seems to be in the gym at the same time as me (on the cross trainer, in fucking Lycra bottoms, no fucking less :o )
DEAFENING SILENCE................. ........................
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Speaking of which, what about that fuckin' diet I asked about, you shaven-headed thuggee bastard!?
DAMY
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'FP' have you ever tried 'Bill Phillips' fit for life - fat loss regime ??
I hear it almost impossible to fail at for 99.9% of people who try it !!
http://bodyforlife.com/success/goals/fatloss.asp
It does, however, say in the small print "people with an eating disorder should seek proffesional help before initiating this regime"
You may wish to pay special attention to that part, just a though.
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Has that Crouch geezer been left with some tit-tissue?
Good going, though.
DAMY
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you should listen to this man, after all- would you not like to look like this- 200 pounds and ripped by his own admission.
he looks like he knows what he's talking about...
thats right ignore the facts of the study ::)
idiot.
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Reading it & understanding it are - NOT THE SAME THING - at all 'FP' - but being in pre-contest condition, you would know this,huh ??
Most all BB'ers eat every 2/2.5 hrs - so why would you need Casein - other than before bed with some boiled Eggs ?? (me I just have the Eggs with some Glutamine).
Whey & other protein powders/solid foods are - ALL - best for waking nitrogen balance, protein synthesis.
How many pro BB'ers have we heard spouting this nonsense to which you (wrongly) subscribe ??
The largest study group available on the planet for this kind of study are BB'ers them-selves - case closed ::)
So, do you have any more industry shattering advice under your pillow.................. ............
Or was that it ?? :-*
I am off to do Delt's & Tricep - enjoy your doughnut & crisp sandwiches that you have in your lunch box, under your desk in that florescent lit cubicle hell, fatty ;)
I will be sure to think of you as I check oput the hot girl who always seems to be in the gym at the same time as me (on the cross trainer, in fucking Lycra bottoms, no fucking less :o )
DEAFENING SILENCE................. ........................
shut your ignorant girl of a mouth. you are a stupid bastard - you have been exposed by myself on numerous occasions as being dumber than dirt.
i could post tons of studies here to show you just how much of a retard you are when it comes to knowledge of bodybuilding, but quite frankly you are not worth my effort.
i enjoy debating candi as he has intelligence and a curiosity about these things, like wise wave, adonis, necrosis and many many others here - you are not one of these guys.
regarding you mentioning understanding is different to reading is quite ironic as you have either not read that protein study or not understood it. Don't worry though, I'll explain it to your simpleton mind:
That study shows whey actually has no anti catabolic effects at all only synthesis, casein has both. i.e. the reason you would take casein over whey is because overall it provides greater increase in whole body protein levels. ( muscle mass).
regarding eating every 2.5 hours ::) this is old school nonsense, studies show you do not have to eat every 2 or 3 hours. it has no or less benefit for muscle gains than longer breaks between meals like 4-5 hours.
i have posted numerous studies that show this, check through my old post if you like. However you would probably be wasting your time as you would neither understand them or be interested by them as they do not discuss ethnic minorities in an unsavory light.
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Which is why you look like shit & I look like this................
i almost forgot - you are one ugly guy.
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That study shows whey actually has no anti catabolic effects at all only synthesis, casein has both. i.e. the reason you would take casein over whey is because overall it provides greater increase in whole body protein levels. ( muscle mass).
regarding eating every 2.5 hours ::) this is old school nonsense, studies show you do not have to eat every 2 or 3 hours. it has no or less benefit for muscle gains than longer breaks between meals like 4-5 hours.
i have posted numerous studies that show this, check through my old post if you like. However you would probably be wasting your time as you would neither understand them or be interested by them as they do not discuss ethnic minorities in an unsavory light.
You need to tell 'Dave palumbo' & the IFBB top 10 this - as I do not think that they are aware of your 'Dan Duchaine' status (as BB'ing science Guru)
You really are a fucking cretin 'wannabe', are you not ??
shut your ignorant #### of a mouth. you are a stupid bastard - you have been exposed by myself on numerous occasions as being dumber than dirt.
i could post tons of studies here to show you just how much of a retard you are when it comes to knowledge of bodybuilding, but quite frankly you are not worth my effort.
You are like a broken record that just needs to be snapped in half, & binned.
You have been asked to show where you have - OWNED - (as you put it) me/BB25/DAMY on ANY OCCASIONS - EVER.
Still waiting for the quotes/links..................
Tick tock.
Just to let you know - repeating some-thing every post does not make it so !!
Much as you might like to think it does.
Owned ?? do you mean you won an argument/debate with me ??
PROOF
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no rush like, any-time this year will do ::)
I have posted tons of studies (that I cut & paste, but do not understand) but you are not worth my time, so neeeeeeeeeeeer !!
What an - EPIC - wanker that is the obese you.
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i almost forgot - you are one ugly ####.
Yeah I am in a fugly agency, get the most work there, weekends are chock a block with bookings.
Post a face pic next to this one, go on I fucking dare you !!
Cue the lame ass excuses as to why the camera is not working, the Dog ate my home-work, etc.............
You are the most unworthy getbig'er I have seen posting on here .
You have - ZERO - physique - & you only post her because you are in need of human contact.
Bring back a full on Eugenics program I say, free up some fuel/housing.
NEXT.
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Yeah I am in a fugly agency, get the most work there, weekends are chock a block with bookings.
Post a face pic next to this one, go on I fucking dare you !!
Cue the lame ass excuses as to why the camera is not working, the Dog ate my home-work, etc.............
You are the most unworthy getbig'er I have seen posting on here .
You have - ZERO - physique - & you only post her because you are in need of human contact.
Bring back full on Eugenics program I say, free up some fuel/housing.
NEXT.
you don't honestly think you're big there do you?
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you don't honestly think you're big there do you?
Don't piss your pants 'QO' I had been in N.Africa for a fair bit & unable to train eat as I would.
This was a facial comparison test.
nothing more.
I have proved my size/condition capabilities already. ;D
Take a look further up the page.
Oh, & before you ask I have never been a mass monster, we do not all start training to get a pro-card (although the way some spout shit, you could be excused for thinking this the case) ::)
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Don't piss your pants 'QO' I had been in N.Africa for a fair bit & unable to train eat as I would.
This was a facial comparison test.
nothing more.
I have proved my size/condition capabilities already. ;D
Oh, & before you ask I have never been a mass monster, we do not all start training to get a pro-card (although the way some spout shit, you could be excused for thinking this the case) ::)
just makes me laugh how you carry on like some bodybuilder when you look like a 40 year old Justin Timberlake with ILS, hahaha, brutal 14 inch arms and hidden toothpick legs and pencilneck. ;D
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just makes me laugh how you carry on like some bodybuilder when you look like a 40 year old Justin Timberlake with ILS, hahaha, brutal 14 inch arms and hidden toothpick legs and pencilneck. ;D
This was between 'FP' & my good self - is 'GO' dead right now ??
No one else to play with ??
Post some pics & we will rip you to fucking shreds (oh wait 'RC' could post his pic's here & get flamed, oh wait, he did, haha)
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This was between 'FP' & my good self - is 'GO' dead right now ??
No one else to play with ??
Post some pics & we will rip you to fucking shreds (oh wait 'RC' could post his pic's here & get flamed, oh wait, he did, haha)
hahaha, calm down skinny. ;D
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hahaha, calm down skinny. ;D
Resting heart BPM 55 'ATM' !!
Now be a good lad & leave the rest for 'FP'
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Resting heart BPM 55 'ATM' !!
Now be a good lad & leave the rest for 'FP'
hahahaha, of course it's 55 you have very little muscle mass.
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just makes me laugh how you carry on like some bodybuilder when you look like a 40 year old Justin Timberlake with ILS, hahaha, brutal 14 inch arms and hidden toothpick legs and pencilneck. ;D
hahahaha classic quaker right there. ;D
carefull though dave, he'll start stalking you from thread to thread calling you wanker and fatty at the start and end of every post, then threaten to come to your house and gut you like a fish. ::)
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Reading it & understanding it are - NOT THE SAME THING - at all 'FP' - but being in pre-contest condition, you would know this,huh ??
Most all BB'ers eat every 2/2.5 hrs - so why would you need Casein - other than before bed with some boiled Eggs ?? (me I just have the Eggs with some Glutamine).
Whey & other protein powders/solid foods are - ALL - best for waking nitrogen balance, protein synthesis.
How many pro BB'ers have we heard spouting this nonsense to which you (wrongly) subscribe ??
The largest study group available on the planet for this kind of study are BB'ers them-selves - case closed ::)
So, do you have any more industry shattering advice under your pillow.................. ............
Or was that it ?? :-*
I am off to do Delt's & Tricep - enjoy your doughnut & crisp sandwiches that you have in your lunch box, under your desk in that florescent lit cubicle hell, fatty ;)
I will be sure to think of you as I check oput the hot girl who always seems to be in the gym at the same time as me (on the cross trainer, in fucking Lycra bottoms, no fucking less :o )
DEAFENING SILENCE................. ........................
So make a move already ya pussy ;D
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Did u slam that?
How was she
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=279192.0;attach=319102;image)
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Did u slam that?
How was she
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=279192.0;attach=319102;image)
he prefers to be the one who gets slammed :-X
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he prefers to be the one who gets slammed :-X
I am noticing a strange shape appearing out of this shemales pants?
:-X
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I am noticing a strange shape appearing out of this shemales pants?
:-X
yes and notice the wide leg stance from pillow biter - clearly a man who is more comfortable with his cheeks parted :-X
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yes and notice the wide leg stance from pillow biter - clearly a man who is more comfortable with his cheeks parted :-X
So that's a - NO - on the pics, yep thought so.
Funny how you told me how attractive my wife was, that was until I started throwing you round the room.
Also a - NO - on listing the IFBB pro's that subscribe to this 'pseudoscience' about Casein being any good for anything, other than sleep time.
Oh, & let's not forget the never ending failure to supply quotes/links to the delusional OWNINGS (as you love to call it).
How many times have I asked now ??
Yep that's me done - point proved.
PT - SAIDA.
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Which is why you look like shit & I look like this................
:D :D :D
oh man
I admire your effort but stop trying to be hard so hard
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So that's a - NO - on the pics, yep thought so.
Funny how you told me how attractive my wife was, that was until I started throwing you round the room.
Also a - NO - on listing the IFBB pro's that subscribe to this pseudoscience about Casein being any good for anything other than sleep time.
Oh, & let's not forget the nevr ending failure to supply quotes/links to the dellusional OWNINGS (as you love to call it).
How many times have I asked now ??
Yep that's me done - point proved.
PT - SAIDA.
i never said she was ugly i just said you like to take a pounding. strange you would assume that though :-\
pillow you are not worth the effort it takes to post and explain the studies i have. You are the type of simple bodybuilder that accepts 'the norm' and the gym rat advice otherwise called bro logic.
most of the stuff that comes from bro logic is false.
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i never said she was ugly i just said you like to take a pounding. strange you would assume that though :-\
pillow you are not worth the effort it takes to post and explain the studies i have. You are the type of simple bodybuilder that accepts 'the norm' and the gym rat advice otherwise called bro logic.
most of the stuff that comes from bro logic is false.
How many of these studies (on Casein) were don on BB'ers - simple question ??
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How many of these studies (on Casein) were don on BB'ers - simple question ??
hahahahahahaha you are dumber than a box of rocks.
you clearly don't understand that study hahahahahahaha
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I asked a simple question - answer - nope.
I will eave you BB'ing science guru's to it.
Get me a barf bag quick :-X :-X :-X
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You shouldn't really be drinking any fluids at the gym.
Also I wouldn't advise eating food within 12 hours of a gym session
You want all the blood in the muscle, not in your stomach digesting food and water
Liquid shakes arent digested - they are absorbed.
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Liquid shakes arent digested - they are absorbed.
nah not true.
single amino acid powders, like leucine powder, is absorbed. but something like whey protien...its still an intact protien with long chains of amino acids bound together, and those have to be digested and broken down into single amino acids before they can be absorbed.
HOWEVER
theres no reason at all to avoid drinking a shake while working out, it will not interfere with optimal blood flow to the muscle.
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hahahaha classic quaker right there. ;D
carefull though dave, he'll start stalking you from thread to thread calling you wanker and fatty at the start and end of every post, then threaten to come to your house and gut you like a fish. ::)
hahahhaa, i love how these guys always have an excuse for why they're small, "i was on a 3 year safari/snowmoblie trip to Antarctica and all we had to eat was dead bugs off the windshield but i'm usually 260 at 5'7" shredded."
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hahahhaa, i love how these guys always have an excuse for why they're small, "i was on a 3 year safari/snowmoblie trip to Antarctica and all we had to eat was dead bugs off the windshield but i'm usually 260 at 5'7" shredded."
:D
where the fuck do you come w/ this shit hahahahaha
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i never said she was ugly i just said you like to take a pounding. strange you would assume that though :-\
pillow you are not worth the effort it takes to post and explain the studies i have. You are the type of simple bodybuilder that accepts 'the norm' and the gym rat advice otherwise called bro logic.
most of the stuff that comes from bro logic is false.
C'mon Panda, don't let yerself down by posting terms that sound like they come from urbandictionary.com
DAMY
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C'mon Panda, don't let yerself down by posting terms that sound like they come from urbandictionary.com
DAMY
damy damy damy
what will i do with you ?
you are a fellow jock, but you still side with the english :-\
decisions decisions............... ...
i'll see if my beloved celtic beat the huns today then i'll decide. - are you a hun damy ? your racist/bigoted ways certainly tick the boxes :-X
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damy damy damy
what will i do with you ?
you are a fellow jock, but you still side with the english :-\
decisions decisions............... ...
i'll see if my beloved celtic beat the huns today then i'll decide. - are you a hun damy ? your racist/bigoted ways certainly tick the boxes :-X
When will you diet down?
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another con that reaps billions of dollars per year....just drink water with a some glucose...it aint rocket science you bunch of ignorant fucktards
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hahahhaa, i love how these guys always have an excuse for why they're small, "i was on a 3 year safari/snowmoblie trip to Antarctica and all we had to eat was dead bugs off the windshield but i'm usually 260 at 5'7" shredded."
When you're not robbing people to support your Twinkie habit, when will you take the time to get in shape, fatty?
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When will you diet down?
when will you post a pic of your herculean physique ::)
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damy damy damy
what will i do with you ?
you are a fellow jock, but you still side with the english :-\
decisions decisions............... ...
i'll see if my beloved celtic beat the huns today then i'll decide. - are you a hun damy ? your racist/bigoted ways certainly tick the boxes :-X
i didn't know there were muslim celts.
you guys spread like roaches.
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So ... :D
what else should I drink ?
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Panda, as it 'appens, I followed Celtic for one season when I was nineteen. Going back a bit now.
That was the year they were beaten in the Coke Cup semi-final by Raith Rovers, when Paul Mistake McStay missed a fuckin' penalty LOL!
I got sick of it after that. I realised that I had been looking for something, anything, to focus on. I was a loon at the time, and they hadn't yet found meds that controlled my spacewalking.
Plus I was heartily sick of cocksuckers on that bus singing idiotic songs about fuck-all.
I reckon both sides of the so-called sectarian divide (read bollocks) in Glasgow, are replete with shitbags and morons.
I'm not enamoured with 'wegies at all, as it goes. Much like Scousers, they appear to think that the world begins and ends at Glasgow's city limits, and that simply being Glaswegian is some kind of a virtue/talent.
Even their whiny, nasal accents get on my onions. Plus the crap they talk, all their by-the-way and big-man horseshite. Fuck, I hate them.
One quarter of my ancestry comes from that shithole too, and most likely Ireland before that. It doesn't sit well with me at all LOL!
Panda, I do hope you simply love football, and that you have a deep, resonant voice, as opposed to the typical Jamesie-Cotter whine.
DAMY
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where the fuck do you come w/ this shit hahahahaha
We have another delusional fuck-tard who thinks he is pro-card status - yet fails to post a pic of his Olympian physique.
Just another day on GetBig - move along,nothing more to see here.
So, Quaker ?? Pic's ?? ??? ??? ::) ::)
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Panda, as it 'appens, I followed Celtic for one season when I was nineteen. Going back a bit now.
That was the year they were beaten in the Coke Cup semi-final by Raith Rovers, when Paul Mistake McStay missed a fuckin' penalty LOL!
I got sick of it after that. I realised that I had been looking for something, anything, to focus on. I was a loon at the time, and they hadn't yet found meds that controlled my spacewalking.
Plus I was heartily sick of cocksuckers on that bus singing idiotic songs about fuck-all.
I reckon both sides of the so-called sectarian divide (read bollocks) in Glasgow, are replete with shitbags and morons.
I'm not enamoured with 'wegies at all, as it goes. Much like Scousers, they appear to think that the world begins and ends at Glasgow's city limits, and that simply being Glaswegian is some kind of a virtue/talent.
Even their whiny, nasal accents get on my onions. Plus the crap they talk, all their by-the-way and big-man horseshite. Fuck, I hate them.
One quarter of my ancestry comes from that shithole too, and most likely Ireland before that. It doesn't sit well with me at all LOL!
Panda, I do hope you simply love football, and that you have a deep, resonant voice, as opposed to the typical Jamesie-Cotter whine.
DAMY
:o still upset by that final defeat i see ;D