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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: Bindare_Dundat on May 09, 2009, 04:21:50 PM
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Will get hearing and vote.
Rep. Jeff Miller [R-FL]
Rep. Lynn Jenkins [R-KS]
Rep. Lynn Westmoreland [R-GA]
Rep. Shelley Capito [R-WV]
Rep. Roy Blunt [R-MO]
Rep. Robert Aderholt [R-AL]
Rep. Dean Heller [R-NV]
Rep. Peter Sessions [R-TX]
Rep. Bill Posey [R-FL]
Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers [R-WA]
Rep. Frederick Upton [R-MI]
Rep. Paul Broun [R-GA]
Rep. Nathan Deal [R-GA]
Rep. Lamar Smith [R-TX]
Rep. Judy Biggert [R-IL]
Rep. Glenn Thompson [R-PA]
Rep. Michael Simpson [R-ID]
Rep. Tom Price [R-GA]
Rep. Walter Jones [R-NC]
Rep. John Culberson [R-TX]
Rep. George Radanovich [R-CA]
Rep. John Linder [R-GA]
Rep. Greg Walden [R-OR]
Rep. Jason Chaffetz [R-UT]
Rep. Brett Guthrie [R-KY]
Rep. Pete Olson [R-TX]
Rep. John Gingrey [R-GA]
Rep. Kevin McCarthy [R-CA]
Rep. Randy Neugebauer [R-TX]
Rep. Geoff Davis [R-KY]
Rep. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin [D-SD]
Rep. Robert Goodlatte [R-VA]
Rep. Mary Fallin [R-OK]
Rep. John Fleming [R-LA]
Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen [R-FL]
Rep. Adam Smith [D-WA]
Rep. Candice Miller [R-MI]
Rep. Clifford Stearns [R-FL]
Rep. Ralph Hall [R-TX]
Rep. Tom Cole [R-OK]
Rep. Adrian Smith [R-NE]
Rep. Walter Herger [R-CA]
Rep. Joe Barton [R-TX]
Rep. John Duncan [R-TN]
Rep. Henry Brown [R-SC]
Rep. Thaddeus McCotter [R-MI]
Rep. Bill Cassidy [R-LA]
Rep. John Boozman [R-AR]
Rep. Patrick Tiberi [R-OH]
Rep. Michael Michaud [D-ME]
Rep. William Shuster [R-PA]
Rep. Michael Burgess [R-TX]
Rep. Thomas Rooney [R-FL]
Rep. Timothy Walz [D-MN]
Rep. John McHugh [R-NY]
Rep. James Sensenbrenner [R-WI]
Rep. Rob Bishop [R-UT]
Rep. Ted Poe [R-TX]
Rep. Addison Wilson [R-SC]
Rep. Gus Bilirakis [R-FL]
Rep. Todd Tiahrt [R-KS]
Rep. Sue Myrick [R-NC]
Rep. Tim Murphy [R-PA]
Rep. Dan Burton [R-IN]
Rep. Tom McClintock [R-CA]
Rep. James McDermott [D-WA]
Rep. John Shimkus [R-IL]
Rep. Collin Peterson [D-MN]
Rep. Spencer Bachus [R-AL]
Rep. Steven LaTourette [R-OH]
Rep. John Kline [R-MN]
Rep. Ander Crenshaw [R-FL]
Rep. Fortney Stark [D-CA]
Rep. Samuel Johnson [R-TX]
Rep. Charles Dent [R-PA]
Rep. Rodney Alexander [R-LA]
Rep. John Carter [R-TX]
Rep. Roscoe Bartlett [R-MD]
Rep. Erik Paulsen [R-MN]
Rep. Dennis Rehberg [R-MT]
Rep. Alan Grayson [D-FL]
Rep. Ken Calvert [R-CA]
Rep. Dana Rohrabacher [R-CA]
Rep. Neil Abercrombie [D-HI]
Rep. Mary Bono Mack [R-CA]
Rep. Samuel Graves [R-MO]
Rep. Gene Taylor [D-MS]
Rep. Michele Bachmann [R-MN]
Rep. Lynn Woolsey [D-CA]
Rep. Michael Castle [R-DE]
Rep. Brian Bilbray [R-CA]
Rep. Michael Conaway [R-TX]
Rep. Tammy Baldwin [D-WI]
Rep. Steve Kagen [D-WI]
Rep. Lee Terry [R-NE]
Rep. Joseph Pitts [R-PA]
Rep. Jeb Hensarling [R-TX]
Rep. John Shadegg [R-AZ]
Rep. Aaron Schock [R-IL]
Rep. Lloyd Doggett [D-TX]
Rep. Janice Schakowsky [D-IL]
Rep. Thomas Latham [R-IA]
Rep. Cynthia Lummis [R-WY]
Rep. Marcy Kaptur [D-OH]
Rep. Virginia Foxx [R-NC]
Rep. Stephen Buyer [R-IN]
Rep. Jerry Moran [R-KS]
Rep. Adam Putnam [R-FL]
Rep. Patrick Mchenry [R-NC]
Rep. Timothy Johnson [R-IL]
Rep. Frank Lucas [R-OK]
Rep. Zach Wamp [R-TN]
Rep. Steve Austria [R-OH]
Rep. Vern Buchanan [R-FL]
Rep. Frank LoBiondo [R-NJ]
Rep. Todd Akin [R-MO]
Rep. Daniel Lungren [R-CA]
Rep. Jack Kingston [R-GA]
Rep. Donald Young [R-AK]
Rep. Bob Inglis [R-SC]
Rep. Scott Garrett [R-NJ]
Rep. David Roe [R-TN]
Rep. Thomas Petri [R-WI]
Rep. Vernon Ehlers [R-MI]
Rep. John Adler [D-NJ]
Rep. James Barrett [R-SC]
Rep. Marsha Blackburn [R-TN]
Rep. Mike Pence [R-IN]
Rep. Louis Gohmert [R-TX]
Rep. Eric Massa [D-NY]
Rep. Peter Hoekstra [R-MI]
Rep. Kevin Brady [R-TX]
Rep. Michael McCaul [R-TX]
Rep. Trent Franks [R-AZ]
Rep. Todd Platts [R-PA]
Rep. Kay Granger [R-TX]
Rep. John Campbell [R-CA]
Rep. Peter DeFazio [D-OR]
Rep. Doug Lamborn [R-CO]
Rep. Rob Wittman [R-VA]
Rep. Donald Manzullo [R-IL]
Rep. Blaine Luetkemeyer [R-MO]
Rep. Kenny Marchant [R-TX]
Rep Walz, Timothy J. [D-MN]
Rep Shuster, Bill [R-PA]
Rep Conaway, K. Michael [R-TX]
Rep Boozman, John [R-AR]
Rep Guthrie, Brett [R-KY]
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They will never let this go through. Still, very laudable.
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Is there any possible honest reason anyone would have to vote against this?
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Is there any possible honest reason anyone would have to vote against this?
Uhm...yeah.
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Fingers crossed.
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Uhm...yeah.
What reason? ???
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Mostly Republicans
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What reason? ???
Gazillions of special interests who DO NOT want an audit...they give people in congress lots of support (money) when need be...
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Gazillions of special interests who DO NOT want an audit...they give people in congress lots of support (money) when need be...
Oh yeah that...
I said "honest reason". :)
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I don`t see a plausible alternative to Federal Reserve at the moment. I hope the alternative is not the laughable "Gold Standard". lolololol. Oh brother gold. How easy it is to duplicate Gold in a laboratory, hence an endless source of wealth. hahah
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I don`t see a plausible alternative to Federal Reserve at the moment. I hope the alternative is not the laughable "Gold Standard". lolololol. Oh brother gold. How easy it is to duplicate Gold in a laboratory, hence an endless source of wealth. hahah
Well, since TA has said it, it MUST be true.... ::)
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I don`t see a plausible alternative to Federal Reserve at the moment. I hope the alternative is not the laughable "Gold Standard". lolololol. Oh brother gold. How easy it is to duplicate Gold in a laboratory, hence an endless source of wealth. hahah
source ?
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Well, since TA has said it, it MUST be true.... ::)
What MUST be true? The fact that gold can be easily, synthetically produced to the point where it is indistinguishable from naturally occurring gold?
Furthermore, gold is a finite resource with little elasticity if we are talking the naturally occurring. Globally, nobody would bother to recognize the equality of Gold, since the amount of gold per country HUGELY varies depending on if they even have any or not.
Stupid system and totally susceptible to the Tinkerbell effect.
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What MUST be true? The fact that gold can be easily, synthetically produced to the point where it is indistinguishable from naturally occurring gold?
and your source ?
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and your source ?
Gold
The artificial production of gold is the age-old dream of the alchemists. It is possible in particle accelerators or nuclear reactors. Since there is only one stable gold isotope, 197Au, nuclear reactions must create this isotope in order to produce usable gold.
Gold synthesis from Mercury
Gold obtained by mining has copper and silver impurities. Gold of higher purity can be made through the photoneutron process:
Mercury 198 + 6.8MeV gamma ray 1 neutron + Mercury 197 (half-life 2.7 days Gold 197)
These energy levels allow a more efficient neutron source than the Spallation Neutron Source.
[edit]Gold synthesis in an accelerator
Gold synthesis in a particle accelerator is possible in many ways. The Spallation Neutron Source has a liquid Mercury target that will be transmuted into Gold, Platinum, and Iridium, which are lower in atomic number.
[edit]Gold synthesis in a nuclear reactor
Gold was first synthesized from mercury by neutron bombardment in 1941, but the isotopes of gold produced were all radioactive[1].
Gold can currently be manufactured in a nuclear reactor by irradiation either of platinum or mercury. Since platinum is more expensive than gold, platinum is economically unsuitable as a raw material. Only the mercury isotope 196Hg, which occurs with a frequency of 0.15% in natural mercury, can be converted to gold by neutron capture, and following K+-decay into 197Au with slow neutrons. Other mercury isotopes are converted when irradiated with slow neutrons into one another or formed mercury isotopes, which beta decay into thallium. Using fast neutrons, the mercury isotope 198Hg, which composes 9.97% of natural mercury, can be converted by splitting off a neutron and becoming 197Hg, which then disintegrates to stable gold. This reaction, however, possesses a smaller activation cross-section and is feasible only with un-moderated reactors. It is also possible to eject several neutrons with very high energy into the other mercury isotopes in order to form 197Hg. However such high-energy neutrons can be produced only by particle accelerators.
http://neutrons.ornl.gov/
http://www.nndc.bnl.gov/nudat2/decaysearchdirect.jsp?nuc=197HG
http://www.nndc.bnl.gov/nudat2/reCenter.jsp?z=80&n=117
^ R. Sherr, K. T. Bainbridge, and H. H. Anderson (1941). "Transmutation of Mercury by Fast Neutrons" (HTML). Physics Review 60 (7): 473–479. doi:10.1103/PhysRev.60.473.
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Also, this gives incentive for any country with zero to low gold stores, to produce Nuclear Reactors and Nuclear technology so they can then claim they are only to be used to produce gold.
If you are fine with Rogue nations and Nuclear Proliferation and monetary inflation via artificial means, than have at it.
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Gold
The artificial production of gold is the age-old dream of the alchemists. It is possible in particle accelerators or nuclear reactors. Since there is only one stable gold isotope, 197Au, nuclear reactions must create this isotope in order to produce usable gold.
Gold synthesis from Mercury
Gold obtained by mining has copper and silver impurities. Gold of higher purity can be made through the photoneutron process:
Mercury 198 + 6.8MeV gamma ray 1 neutron + Mercury 197 (half-life 2.7 days Gold 197)
These energy levels allow a more efficient neutron source than the Spallation Neutron Source.
[edit]Gold synthesis in an accelerator
Gold synthesis in a particle accelerator is possible in many ways. The Spallation Neutron Source has a liquid Mercury target that will be transmuted into Gold, Platinum, and Iridium, which are lower in atomic number.
[edit]Gold synthesis in a nuclear reactor
Gold was first synthesized from mercury by neutron bombardment in 1941, but the isotopes of gold produced were all radioactive[1].
Gold can currently be manufactured in a nuclear reactor by irradiation either of platinum or mercury. Since platinum is more expensive than gold, platinum is economically unsuitable as a raw material. Only the mercury isotope 196Hg, which occurs with a frequency of 0.15% in natural mercury, can be converted to gold by neutron capture, and following K+-decay into 197Au with slow neutrons. Other mercury isotopes are converted when irradiated with slow neutrons into one another or formed mercury isotopes, which beta decay into thallium. Using fast neutrons, the mercury isotope 198Hg, which composes 9.97% of natural mercury, can be converted by splitting off a neutron and becoming 197Hg, which then disintegrates to stable gold. This reaction, however, possesses a smaller activation cross-section and is feasible only with un-moderated reactors. It is also possible to eject several neutrons with very high energy into the other mercury isotopes in order to form 197Hg. However such high-energy neutrons can be produced only by particle accelerators.
http://neutrons.ornl.gov/
http://www.nndc.bnl.gov/nudat2/decaysearchdirect.jsp?nuc=197HG
http://www.nndc.bnl.gov/nudat2/reCenter.jsp?z=80&n=117
^ R. Sherr, K. T. Bainbridge, and H. H. Anderson (1941). "Transmutation of Mercury by Fast Neutrons" (HTML). Physics Review 60 (7): 473–479. doi:10.1103/PhysRev.60.473.
So this is the easy way you spoke of ?
You really are as stupid as you look.
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I don`t see a plausible alternative to Federal Reserve at the moment. I hope the alternative is not the laughable "Gold Standard". lolololol. Oh brother gold. How easy it is to duplicate Gold in a laboratory, hence an endless source of wealth. hahah
OMG! I just got a new sig!!!!
Ok my alchemist ::)
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In practice, it is much more expensive to make it than it is to go out and dig it out of the ground.
You really are as stupid as you look.
Obviously you are, because you failed to realize that any country with a Nuclear Powerplant has the technology to develop gold at whim.
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"How easy it is to duplicate Gold in a laboratory, hence an endless source of wealth. hahah" - True Adonis
I will say it again, you really are as stupid as you look :o :o :o
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Obviously you are, because you failed to realize that any country with a Nuclear Powerplant has the technology to develop gold at whim.
TA just announced that he is smarter than the rest of the entire gold purchasing world and 6500 years of history. Gee, TA why do they even bother, huh? ::)
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I will say it again, you really are as stupid as you look :o :o :o
So you are disputing that Gold can be created with Nuclear technology?
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TA just announced that he is smarter than the rest of the entire gold purchasing world and 6500 years of history. Gee, TA why do they even bother, huh? ::)
So this is a bit of Science you are willfully disputing? Might I ask, how and why?
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How easy it is to duplicate Gold in a laboratory,- True Adonis
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You are the most ignorant person on GetBig !
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I don`t understand. First you are disputing the Science, now you are disputing the process.
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How easy it is to duplicate Gold in a laboratory,- True Adonis
"easy "- true adonis :o
Anyone have some platinum ( more expensive than Gold) ,
and a Nuclear reactor I can borrow ?
;D
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Anyone have some platinum ( more expensive than Gold) ,
and Nuclear reactor I can borrow ?
;D
The United States has 104 commercial Nuclear reactors and I don`t know how many "defensive" Nuclear reactors (probably a high number).
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How easy it is to duplicate Gold in a laboratory,- True Adonis
Bindare_Dundat,
Do you have some Platinum, and a Nuclear Reactor I can borrow ?
or maybe you have a $ 20 dollar bill you will exchange for a $ 5 dollar bill ?
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Bindare_Dundat,
Do you have some Platinum, and a Nuclear Reactor I can borrow ?
Why would you need one? You don`t have a United States Mint and would NEVER be able to duplicate our current bills.
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Why would you need one? You don`t have a United States Mint and would NEVER be able to duplicate our current bills.
The more you write, the more I realize what an ignorant person you are.
It is not me, or you that is making the dollar go down in value dip shit.
It it our Government printing like no tomorrow, that is the cause
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The more you write, the more I realize what an ignorant person you are.
Well at least you learned that Gold can be synthetically produced as long as a country has a Nuclear reactor. You learned something you did not know today, so you can count this day as a success.
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The more you write, the more I realize what an ignorant person you are.
It is not me, or you that is making the dollar go down in value dip shit.
It it our Government printing like no tomorrow, that is the cause
To be honest, the root cause is Overpopulation. Morons on like you insist on having more than one child or children at all.
Money was supposed to be a finite system with a given population. Increase the population, the money has to be increased as well or else there is an extreme concentration of wealth which creates extreme disparity.
Our population in 1980 was only 225 million or so. Today, it is well over 300 million.
In 1940, our population was only 132 million.
Do the math genius and you will see just what the number one cause of inflation is.
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I hope the alternative is not the laughable "Gold Standard". lolololol. Oh brother gold. [b]How easy it is to duplicate Gold in a laboratory,[/b] hence an endless source of wealth. hahah - Adonis
True Adonis Dummy, you wrote it was "easy"
So using Platinum, which cost more, and or using a nuclear reactor, which would cost triple the price, is easy ?
Fact: you really are the most ignorant person on GetBig !
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True Adonis Dummy, you wrote it was "easy"
So using Platinum, which cost more, and or using a nuclear reactor, which would cost triple the price is easy ?
Fact: you really are the most ignorant person on GetBig !
uh, try Mercury.
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uh, try Mercury.
read slowly dummy :
I will repeat : "So using Platinum, which cost more, and or using a nuclear reactor, which would cost triple the price, is easy ?"
So true adonis dummy, if it is so easy, why are you not a billionaire already ?
LMAO !!!!! :o
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You saying it is easy to make Gold, is like saying " Anyone have some Diamonds I can have ? I want to glue them all together and make a window out of it "
true adonis dummy , are you really this stupid ? or is this just a gimmick ?
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What MUST be true? The fact that gold can be easily, synthetically produced to the point where it is indistinguishable from naturally occurring gold?
Hold on guys, I have to tell the rest of the worlds governments to get rid of their worthless, easy to counterfit gold, before they waste any more of their pieces of paper with ink on it. I'll be right back.
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uh, try Mercury.
Try a rare isotope of Mercury, also you seem to forgot the costs of that operation, making it and making it profitable are two DIFFERENT things.
According to Quantum Theory you can spontaneously appear across the universe and it's true but it doesn't mean that I will open a universe crossing taxi company based on that :-*
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How easy it is to duplicate Gold in a laboratory,- True Adonis
Sorry brother, you have lost all credibility ???