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Re: HR 1207: 147 co-sponsers, Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2009, 04:59:30 PM »

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Re: HR 1207: 147 co-sponsers, Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2009, 05:28:19 PM »
They will never let this go through. Still, very laudable.
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Re: HR 1207: 147 co-sponsers, Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2009, 05:37:12 PM »
Is there any possible honest reason anyone would have to vote against this?
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Re: HR 1207: 147 co-sponsers, Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2009, 05:37:47 PM »
Is there any possible honest reason anyone would have to vote against this?

Uhm...yeah.
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Re: HR 1207: 147 co-sponsers, Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2009, 07:10:35 PM »
Fingers crossed.

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Re: HR 1207: 147 co-sponsers, Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2009, 06:23:51 AM »
Mostly Republicans

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Re: HR 1207: 147 co-sponsers, Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2009, 06:26:18 AM »
What reason?  ???

Gazillions of special interests who DO NOT want an audit...they give people in congress lots of support (money) when need be...
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Re: HR 1207: 147 co-sponsers, Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2009, 09:07:08 AM »
Gazillions of special interests who DO NOT want an audit...they give people in congress lots of support (money) when need be...

Oh yeah that...

I said "honest reason".   :)
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Re: HR 1207: 147 co-sponsers, Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2009, 09:11:14 AM »
I don`t see a plausible alternative to Federal Reserve at the moment. I hope the alternative is not the laughable "Gold Standard". lolololol.  Oh brother gold.  How easy it is to duplicate Gold in a laboratory, hence an endless source of wealth. hahah



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Re: HR 1207: 147 co-sponsers, Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009
« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2009, 09:13:49 AM »
I don`t see a plausible alternative to Federal Reserve at the moment. I hope the alternative is not the laughable "Gold Standard". lolololol.  Oh brother gold.  How easy it is to duplicate Gold in a laboratory, hence an endless source of wealth. hahah




Well, since TA has said it, it MUST be true.... ::)
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Re: HR 1207: 147 co-sponsers, Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009
« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2009, 09:15:44 AM »
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I don`t see a plausible alternative to Federal Reserve at the moment. I hope the alternative is not the laughable "Gold Standard". lolololol.  Oh brother gold.  How easy it is to duplicate Gold in a laboratory, hence an endless source of wealth. hahah

source ?

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Re: HR 1207: 147 co-sponsers, Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2009, 09:17:36 AM »
Well, since TA has said it, it MUST be true.... ::)
What MUST be true?  The fact that gold can be easily, synthetically produced to the point where it is indistinguishable from naturally occurring gold?

Furthermore, gold is a finite resource with little elasticity if we are talking the naturally occurring. Globally, nobody would bother to recognize the equality of Gold, since the amount of gold per country HUGELY varies depending on if they even have any or not.

Stupid system and totally susceptible to the Tinkerbell effect.

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Re: HR 1207: 147 co-sponsers, Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009
« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2009, 09:18:22 AM »
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What MUST be true?  The fact that gold can be easily, synthetically produced to the point where it is indistinguishable from naturally occurring gold?

and your source ?

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Re: HR 1207: 147 co-sponsers, Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009
« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2009, 09:23:52 AM »
and your source ?
Gold

The artificial production of gold is the age-old dream of the alchemists. It is possible in particle accelerators or nuclear reactors. Since there is only one stable gold isotope, 197Au, nuclear reactions must create this isotope in order to produce usable gold.

Gold synthesis from Mercury

Gold obtained by mining has copper and silver impurities. Gold of higher purity can be made through the photoneutron process:
Mercury 198 + 6.8MeV gamma ray  1 neutron + Mercury 197 (half-life 2.7 days  Gold 197)
These energy levels allow a more efficient neutron source than the Spallation Neutron Source.
[edit]Gold synthesis in an accelerator
Gold synthesis in a particle accelerator is possible in many ways. The Spallation Neutron Source has a liquid Mercury target that will be transmuted into Gold, Platinum, and Iridium, which are lower in atomic number.
[edit]Gold synthesis in a nuclear reactor
Gold was first synthesized from mercury by neutron bombardment in 1941, but the isotopes of gold produced were all radioactive[1].
Gold can currently be manufactured in a nuclear reactor by irradiation either of platinum or mercury. Since platinum is more expensive than gold, platinum is economically unsuitable as a raw material. Only the mercury isotope 196Hg, which occurs with a frequency of 0.15% in natural mercury, can be converted to gold by neutron capture, and following K+-decay into 197Au with slow neutrons. Other mercury isotopes are converted when irradiated with slow neutrons into one another or formed mercury isotopes, which beta decay into thallium. Using fast neutrons, the mercury isotope 198Hg, which composes 9.97% of natural mercury, can be converted by splitting off a neutron and becoming 197Hg, which then disintegrates to stable gold. This reaction, however, possesses a smaller activation cross-section and is feasible only with un-moderated reactors. It is also possible to eject several neutrons with very high energy into the other mercury isotopes in order to form 197Hg. However such high-energy neutrons can be produced only by particle accelerators.

http://neutrons.ornl.gov/

http://www.nndc.bnl.gov/nudat2/decaysearchdirect.jsp?nuc=197HG
http://www.nndc.bnl.gov/nudat2/reCenter.jsp?z=80&n=117
^ R. Sherr, K. T. Bainbridge, and H. H. Anderson (1941). "Transmutation of Mercury by Fast Neutrons" (HTML). Physics Review 60 (7): 473–479. doi:10.1103/PhysRev.60.473.



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Re: HR 1207: 147 co-sponsers, Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009
« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2009, 09:26:16 AM »
Also, this gives incentive for any country with zero to low gold stores, to produce Nuclear Reactors and Nuclear technology so they can then claim they are only to be used to produce gold.


If you are fine with Rogue nations and Nuclear Proliferation and monetary inflation via artificial means, than have at it.

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Re: HR 1207: 147 co-sponsers, Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009
« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2009, 09:26:31 AM »
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Gold

The artificial production of gold is the age-old dream of the alchemists. It is possible in particle accelerators or nuclear reactors. Since there is only one stable gold isotope, 197Au, nuclear reactions must create this isotope in order to produce usable gold.

Gold synthesis from Mercury

Gold obtained by mining has copper and silver impurities. Gold of higher purity can be made through the photoneutron process:
Mercury 198 + 6.8MeV gamma ray  1 neutron + Mercury 197 (half-life 2.7 days  Gold 197)
These energy levels allow a more efficient neutron source than the Spallation Neutron Source.
[edit]Gold synthesis in an accelerator
Gold synthesis in a particle accelerator is possible in many ways. The Spallation Neutron Source has a liquid Mercury target that will be transmuted into Gold, Platinum, and Iridium, which are lower in atomic number.
[edit]Gold synthesis in a nuclear reactor
Gold was first synthesized from mercury by neutron bombardment in 1941, but the isotopes of gold produced were all radioactive[1].
Gold can currently be manufactured in a nuclear reactor by irradiation either of platinum or mercury. Since platinum is more expensive than gold, platinum is economically unsuitable as a raw material. Only the mercury isotope 196Hg, which occurs with a frequency of 0.15% in natural mercury, can be converted to gold by neutron capture, and following K+-decay into 197Au with slow neutrons. Other mercury isotopes are converted when irradiated with slow neutrons into one another or formed mercury isotopes, which beta decay into thallium. Using fast neutrons, the mercury isotope 198Hg, which composes 9.97% of natural mercury, can be converted by splitting off a neutron and becoming 197Hg, which then disintegrates to stable gold. This reaction, however, possesses a smaller activation cross-section and is feasible only with un-moderated reactors. It is also possible to eject several neutrons with very high energy into the other mercury isotopes in order to form 197Hg. However such high-energy neutrons can be produced only by particle accelerators.

http://neutrons.ornl.gov/

http://www.nndc.bnl.gov/nudat2/decaysearchdirect.jsp?nuc=197HG
http://www.nndc.bnl.gov/nudat2/reCenter.jsp?z=80&n=117
^ R. Sherr, K. T. Bainbridge, and H. H. Anderson (1941). "Transmutation of Mercury by Fast Neutrons" (HTML). Physics Review 60 (7): 473–479. doi:10.1103/PhysRev.60.473.

So this is the easy way you spoke of ?


You really are as stupid as you look.

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Re: HR 1207: 147 co-sponsers, Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009
« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2009, 09:27:15 AM »
I don`t see a plausible alternative to Federal Reserve at the moment. I hope the alternative is not the laughable "Gold Standard". lolololol.  Oh brother gold.  How easy it is to duplicate Gold in a laboratory, hence an endless source of wealth. hahah



OMG! I just got a new sig!!!!

Ok my alchemist  ::)


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Re: HR 1207: 147 co-sponsers, Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009
« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2009, 09:29:09 AM »

In practice, it is much more expensive to make it than it is to go out and dig it out of the ground.

You really are as stupid as you look.
Obviously you are, because you failed to realize that any country with a Nuclear Powerplant has the technology to develop gold at whim.

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Re: HR 1207: 147 co-sponsers, Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009
« Reply #20 on: May 10, 2009, 09:30:46 AM »
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"How easy it is to duplicate Gold in a laboratory, hence an endless source of wealth. hahah"  - True Adonis

I will say it again,  you really are as stupid as you look  :o   :o   :o

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Re: HR 1207: 147 co-sponsers, Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009
« Reply #21 on: May 10, 2009, 09:32:43 AM »
Obviously you are, because you failed to realize that any country with a Nuclear Powerplant has the technology to develop gold at whim.

TA just announced that he is smarter than the rest of the entire gold purchasing world and 6500 years of history. Gee, TA why do they even bother, huh?  ::)

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Re: HR 1207: 147 co-sponsers, Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009
« Reply #22 on: May 10, 2009, 09:33:43 AM »
I will say it again,  you really are as stupid as you look  :o   :o   :o
So you are disputing that Gold can be created with Nuclear technology?  

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Re: HR 1207: 147 co-sponsers, Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009
« Reply #23 on: May 10, 2009, 09:34:41 AM »
TA just announced that he is smarter than the rest of the entire gold purchasing world and 6500 years of history. Gee, TA why do they even bother, huh?  ::)
So this is a bit of Science you are willfully disputing?  Might I ask, how and why? 

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Re: HR 1207: 147 co-sponsers, Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009
« Reply #24 on: May 10, 2009, 09:35:14 AM »
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How easy it is to duplicate Gold in a laboratory,- True Adonis


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