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Chutzpah.
Christian college suspends student for gay-porn roles
Philly man says he needed cash for tuition
Associated Press
GROVE CITY, Pa. - A student who appeared in pornographic videos using a pseudonym is appealing his suspension from a Christian college in western Pennsylvania, saying that the off-campus job wasn't the business of school officials.
John Gechter, 22, of Philadelphia said that he needed the income from his roles in gay porn to pay for school, but was suspended for a year from Grove City College, pending his appeal, after a student saw him in a video posted online.
"I absolutely believe this college violated my rights," Gechter told The Allied News of Grove City. "They [suspended] me based on my occupation. I was not doing anything illegal."
College spokeswoman Amy Clingensmith said that Gechter was suspended because he "exhibited behavior contrary to the values" of the college.
"He also indicated he chose to participate in this behavior knowing it was incongruent with the policies, mission and values of Grove City College," Clingensmith said.
Gechter told the newspaper that he has been in about 15 gay porn scenes in the last two years using the screen name "Vincent DeSalvo." In doing the work, he said, he flew to Chicago, Los Angeles, Miami and other places on the weekends.
Gechter, a senior majoring in molecular biology, said that he started doing gay porn after he was referred to the industry through a modeling agency late in his sophomore year.
Another student recognized Gechter and copied and pasted some images of him in an e-mail that was sent to some friends April 23. By the next morning, most of the student body and the school admininstration had seen or knew about the e-mail, Gechter said.
Gechter contacted the American Civil Liberties Union and the Pittsburgh Delta Foundation, a gay advocacy group. Delta's president, Gary Van Horn Jr., sent a letter to the school saying that Gechter's gay-porn work doesn't affect the school because he acted under a pseudonym.
Gechter said that he hasn't attended classes in two weeks since appealing the suspension, saying that he's afraid of reprisals from students.
But Clingensmith said that Gechter has been seen eating in the cafeteria and working out in the gym among other students.
http://www.philly.com/dailynews/national/44576627.html
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Chutzpah.
Christian college suspends student for gay-porn roles
Philly man says he needed cash for tuition
Associated Press
GROVE CITY, Pa. - A student who appeared in pornographic videos using a pseudonym is appealing his suspension from a Christian college in western Pennsylvania, saying that the off-campus job wasn't the business of school officials.
John Gechter, 22, of Philadelphia said that he needed the income from his roles in gay porn to pay for school, but was suspended for a year from Grove City College, pending his appeal, after a student saw him in a video posted online.
"I absolutely believe this college violated my rights," Gechter told The Allied News of Grove City. "They [suspended] me based on my occupation. I was not doing anything illegal."
College spokeswoman Amy Clingensmith said that Gechter was suspended because he "exhibited behavior contrary to the values" of the college.
"He also indicated he chose to participate in this behavior knowing it was incongruent with the policies, mission and values of Grove City College," Clingensmith said.
Gechter told the newspaper that he has been in about 15 gay porn scenes in the last two years using the screen name "Vincent DeSalvo." In doing the work, he said, he flew to Chicago, Los Angeles, Miami and other places on the weekends.
Gechter, a senior majoring in molecular biology, said that he started doing gay porn after he was referred to the industry through a modeling agency late in his sophomore year.
Another student recognized Gechter and copied and pasted some images of him in an e-mail that was sent to some friends April 23. By the next morning, most of the student body and the school admininstration had seen or knew about the e-mail, Gechter said.
Gechter contacted the American Civil Liberties Union and the Pittsburgh Delta Foundation, a gay advocacy group. Delta's president, Gary Van Horn Jr., sent a letter to the school saying that Gechter's gay-porn work doesn't affect the school because he acted under a pseudonym.
Gechter said that he hasn't attended classes in two weeks since appealing the suspension, saying that he's afraid of reprisals from students.
But Clingensmith said that Gechter has been seen eating in the cafeteria and working out in the gym among other students.
http://www.philly.com/dailynews/national/44576627.html
He's evil. He should be shot.
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Not shot. Just expelled. Now watch the ACLU take up this fight. ::)
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Bum - it's weird how you always seem to be the one posting this kind of stuff
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did you find this when you were googling for gay porn
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I get it Straw Man. You're a dense homosexual. These stories make you uncomfortable, so instead of addressing the story, you make some asinine comment about the poster. But no worries. I understand you.
Got it from here: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/
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Wow, ...college is waaaay out of line imo. I hope someone does take up his cause.
He paid for an education, not meddling into his personal life.
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Wow, ...college is waaaay out of line imo. I hope someone does take up his cause.
He paid for an education, not meddling into his personal life.
i agree
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"Along with alcohol use, the student handbook forbids any sexual conduct that violates historic Christian standards. The school's official stance on homosexuality has subtly changed over the years, from condemning homosexuality to focusing on same-sex activity, and currently only explicitly mentioning premarital sex (heterosexual or homosexual). Off-campus housing was disallowed in the 1980s, an early indicator of the school's change in organizational culture."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grove_City_College
I smell a setup. This guy probably planned to make a case out of this from the start. Someone at the school just happened to see the picture and send it on to everybody, yea right.... a co-conspiritor.
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I get it Straw Man. You're a dense homosexual. These stories make you uncomfortable, so instead of addressing the story, you make some asinine comment about the poster. But no worries. I understand you.
Got it from here: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/
bum
you don't get it
I'm not gay
and being gay is not an insult
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and being gay is not an insult
I'm very guilty of using it as a common insult. long habit... but you're right, it should not be. I know that was for bb, just wanted to comment on that.
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I smell a setup. This guy probably planned to make a case out of this from the start. Someone at the school just happened to see the picture and send it on to everybody, yea right.... a co-conspiritor.
nice thinking.
I'm very guilty of using it as a common insult. long habit...
lol same here.
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the only reason why someone should get kicked out of university is if they are not paying their tuition or stealing.
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the only reason why someone should get kicked out of university is if they are not paying their tuition or stealing.
wrong if it is a private institution as most religous colleges are they have a right to set forth rules and regulations that students must follow, but like every other incident in the past its whether they enforced them equally? if not then he has a case if they did then its just like the gay dude who came out in the military sorry you knew the fuking rules STFU...
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wrong if it is a private institution as most religous colleges are they have a right to set forth rules and regulations that students must follow, but like every other incident in the past its whether they enforced them equally? if not then he has a case if they did then its just like the gay dude who came out in the military sorry you knew the fuking rules STFU...
They may be a private religious institution with the right to set forth rules and regulations, ...however their rules and regulations must be accountable to the laws of the land. If his civil rights were violated, they are wrong. Your argument is a weak, feeble and impotent one. It's the equivalent of saying that a private muslim school in America has the right to perform honour killings against female students.
Pull your head from up out of your ass. Don't worry, ...once you do, ...no one is going to replace it with a dick,
...unless you want them to. ;)
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bum
you don't get it
I'm not gay
and being gay is not an insult
You don't get it. Calling you a homosexual isn't an insult. "Homosexual" isn't a pejorative. It's simply a description of your lifestyle choice. Calling you dense is an insult. If you weren't so dense you'd understand that.
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the only reason why someone should get kicked out of university is if they are not paying their tuition or stealing.
Or cheating, disrupting the classroom, disrespecting professors, failing to maintain the required g.p.a., violating the student code of conduct, violating school policy, etc.
This kid had the "right" to pay his tuition and receive his education, assuming he followed the rules. No one has the "right" to attend a private college or university.
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You don't get it. Calling you a homosexual isn't an insult. "Homosexual" isn't a pejorative. It's simply a description of your lifestyle choice. Calling you dense is an insult. If you weren't so dense you'd understand that.
of course homosexual is not a pejorative but when someone tells you they are not gay and you continue say they are then it is a pejorative in the context that you are using it.
I've been with the same woman for almost 7 years. She's divorced and has no interest in getting married again and we both own our homes and have other assets, etc... If I tell you I'm not gay and you keep saying that I am then you are using it as an insult which just exposes your bigotry......something we all know about you already.
Of coure I wouldn't expect you to understand any of that
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of course homosexual is not a pejorative but when someone tells you they are not gay and you continue say they are then it is a pejorative in the context that you are using it.
I've been with the same woman for almost 7 years. She's divorced and has no interest in getting married again and we both own our homes and have other assets, etc... If I tell you I'm not gay and you keep saying that I am then you are using it as an insult which just exposes your bigotry......something we all know about you already.
Of coure I wouldn't expect you to understand any of that
Very smart, very, very smart...
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Very smart, very, very smart...
exactly - something we've discussed at length. She also has 2 kids and her own home and I have my own house and we both like it that way.
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exactly - something we've discussed at length. She also has 2 kids and her own home and I have my own house and we both like it that way.
You are the model of what a relationship should be... :)
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You are the model of what a relationship should be... :)
well I wouldn't go that far but it works for our situation. If I were younger or our situation was different (i.e. she didn't have her own place or kids) we might make a different choice. I'm very glad I didn't get married at a young age. Almost everyone I know who got married in their twenties is either miserable or divorced.
a more interesting question is why bum keeps posting the majority of gay related stories on this site. He clearly spends some time every day looking for them or if nothing else keeps an eye out for them.
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of course homosexual is not a pejorative but when someone tells you they are not gay and you continue say they are then it is a pejorative in the context that you are using it.
I've been with the same woman for almost 7 years. She's divorced and has no interest in getting married again and we both own our homes and have other assets, etc... If I tell you I'm not gay and you keep saying that I am then you are using it as an insult which just exposes your bigotry......something we all know about you already.
Of coure I wouldn't expect you to understand any of that
There's no rule saying a particular group owns a word and can dictate it only gets used in one specific manner/context. Those stupid commercials are proof that political correctness has gone too far. I use 'gay' all the time and will continue doing so. :)
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There's no rule saying a particular group owns a word and can dictate it only gets used in one specific manner/context. Those stupid commercials are proof that political correctness has gone too far. I use 'gay' all the time and will continue doing so. :)
my point is that context is what matters
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wrong if it is a private institution as most religous colleges are they have a right to set forth rules and regulations that students must follow, but like every other incident in the past its whether they enforced them equally? if not then he has a case if they did then its just like the gay dude who came out in the military sorry you knew the fuking rules STFU...
They certainly seem to have the law on their side and this case is a world apart of the two teenaged girls at that Lutheran High School who were merely suspected of being gay. I wonder why this guy couldn't get a regular job (or two) like most of us did in college.
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They may be a private religious institution with the right to set forth rules and regulations, ...however their rules and regulations must be accountable to the laws of the land. If his civil rights were violated, they are wrong. Your argument is a weak, feeble and impotent one. It's the equivalent of saying that a private muslim school in America has the right to perform honour killings against female students.
Pull your head from up out of your ass. Don't worry, ...once you do, ...no one is going to replace it with a dick,
...unless you want them to. ;)
not true again, while working for a company you may have to abstaine from certain activities or certain things does that violate your civil rights...not dating in the work place, no drinking in the work place, no off color language in the work place? your arguement is the ignorant one when you stop to think about it if he knew the rules going in he shouldnt be suprised when this happend.
They arent denying him any rights he can go work there all he wants he simply cant work there and go to school there thats all...you guys seem to get confused alot about violating civil rights no body is saying gays cant marry they can marry anybody of the opposite sex they want there is no more civil right violation there then there is to me a straight man.
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There's no rule saying a particular group owns a word and can dictate it only gets used in one specific manner/context. Those stupid commercials are proof that political correctness has gone too far. I use 'gay' all the time and will continue doing so. :)
Never getting married myself, I am 31 and I already have two divorced friends my age; they have been great lesson teachers! ;D
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Should they not also discipline the student who reported the incident?
After all, WTF is he/she doing watching gay porn? ::)
I know 3 people who graduated from GC College, and am familiar with the school’s student atmosphere & demographic from the late 80’s.
I don’t know what they’re like now, but it sounds like they’ve taken things to the next level.
Whatever we think, they’re a private institution that can make their own rules.
Think Boy Scouts of America...
This is gonna be tough to fight.