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Title: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on May 10, 2009, 04:00:14 PM
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: PJim on May 10, 2009, 04:08:54 PM


R.I.P Marv
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on May 10, 2009, 04:17:46 PM
He was robbed in that Olympia 1983,look on youtube for the decision footage,the crowd go mental when he is put in 5th place
Some people said it was because he was English (kinda) and the olympia was in germany that year,who knows
He faded after the 1984 olympia and soon after was pretty much out of competative bodybuilding
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: The ChemistV2 on May 10, 2009, 04:45:19 PM
very large, complete physique.  big everything. 

i dont really no much about him, besides what he did to get into trouble. 

what olympias was he in?  who beat him out?  pics of it?
He was in a store with his wife and mom and they were talking about the '83 Olympia. His wife said something to the effect that Bertil wasn't good enough to beat 180 pound bodybuilders like Zane and that's why he got 5th. Bertil lost it pulled out a gun and blew her away. Then the mother screamed at him, "Why did you do that..you freakin' monkey..Shit you couldn't even beat Makkawy and he was only 150 pounds...Loser!!" Of course he shot her as well.
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: QuakerOats on May 10, 2009, 05:06:39 PM
here's a cool clip of some old training.

Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: Danimal77 on May 10, 2009, 07:55:07 PM
260 pounds monster with LEGIT 22" upper arms at his largest. The man was benching 505 pounds for reps and 365 pounds seated military presses. Was WAY ahead of his time and was criminally overlooked...

To the guy who doesn't know much about him, DO YOUR RESEARCH!
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: pumpster on May 10, 2009, 08:20:50 PM
Ya he deserved to win in 83, without a doubt got screwed. Weider factors personality in to the scoring without admitting it, which turned out to be a good decision in this case!
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: lax on May 10, 2009, 08:28:21 PM
He was in a store with his wife and mom and they were talking about the '83 Olympia. His wife said something to the effect that Bertil wasn't good enough to beat 180 pound bodybuilders like Zane and that's why he got 5th. Bertil lost it pulled out a gun and blew her away. Then the mother screamed at him, "Why did you do that..you freakin' monkey..Shit you couldn't even beat Makkawy and he was only 150 pounds...Loser!!" Of course he shot her as well.

Haha...I thought he went to her house accused her of cheating, and shot her and hetr mom when  they tried to flee...?

BTW....Bertil lacked refinement and true shreddedness to ever win the big one.
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: HTexan on May 10, 2009, 08:32:07 PM
he killed his bitch? damn :-\
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: lax on May 10, 2009, 08:32:49 PM
Oh, and by the way....his afro was too big...it obscured the width of his shoulders....same problem RR had to rectify on the Grand Prix Circuit.
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: pumpster on May 10, 2009, 08:34:53 PM
Haha...I thought he went to her house accused her of cheating, and shot her and hetr mom when  they tried to flee...?

BTW....Bertil lacked refinement and true shreddedness to ever win the big one.

Of course. He's just being silly.

Ya his best would have been a little more cut like he was a few years earlier, but even so should've won in 83-he was as or more cut than Samir, with more size and balance and deserved to win.
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: lax on May 10, 2009, 08:43:40 PM
Of course. He's just being silly.

Ya his best would have been a little more cut like he was a few years earlier, but even so should've won in 83-he was as or more cut than Samir, with more size and balance and deserved to win.

They were still in the era of refinement, of which the likes of Dickerson, Zane and Bannout had much more. And the 3 aformentioned were far more eloquent than Bertil=better spokesmen. Competing in NABBA all those years did not help Bertil, either.
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: Schmoe Buster on May 10, 2009, 08:48:05 PM
He was robbed in that Olympia 1983,look on youtube for the decision footage,the crowd go mental when he is put in 5th place
Some people said it was because he was English (kinda) and the olympia was in germany that year,who knows
He faded after the 1984 olympia and soon after was pretty much out of competative bodybuilding

wouldnt say he faded after the 84 Olympia, did not compete in 84 and 85 Olympias, his last contest was the 94 ironman after which he opened up a gym in Saint Kitts which is where he still is in jail.

Many think the reason he did not always get fair placings was because he was very successful in NABBA,Mr Britain,Mr Universe 3 times, and AAU Mr World, he also competed as a Pro in WABBA, we all know how the IFBB can be.
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: lax on May 10, 2009, 08:51:05 PM
wouldnt say he faded after the 84 Olympia, did not compete in 84 and 85 Olympias, his last contest was the 94 ironman after which he opened up a gym in Saint Kitts which is where he still is in jail.

Many think the reason he did not always get fair placings was because he was very successful in NABBA,Mr Britain,Mr Universe 3 times, and AAU Mr World, he also competed as a Pro in WABBA, we all know how the IFBB can be.

NBA=did not respect ABA

NFL=did not respect AFL

IFBB=did not respect outside organizations, still don't.
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: Quo on May 10, 2009, 09:20:50 PM
On May 22, 1998, bodybuilder Bertil Fox was convicted of murdering his former fiancee and her mother on the tiny Caribbean isle of St. Kitts. He was originally sentenced to death by hanging, though on Sept 27, 2002 his sentence was changed to life in prison.

Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: lax on May 10, 2009, 09:30:26 PM
bAH
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: Fury on May 10, 2009, 09:34:09 PM
Big beef it Betil got fucked by two mouth whores and the penile system. He has great fysike.
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: lax on May 10, 2009, 09:49:22 PM
On May 22, 1998, bodybuilder Bertil Fox was convicted of murdering his former fiancee and her mother on the tiny Caribbean isle of St. Kitts. He was originally sentenced to death by hanging, though on Sept 27, 2002 his sentence was changed to life in prison.



wonder if the have a probabtion system tyhere

cayse,

you know, There arwe pleanty here who like to see him grace the stage again!
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: musclecenter on May 10, 2009, 09:53:44 PM
On May 22, 1998, bodybuilder Bertil Fox was convicted of murdering his former fiancee and her mother on the tiny Caribbean isle of St. Kitts. He was originally sentenced to death by hanging, though on Sept 27, 2002 his sentence was changed to life in prison.


still in jail?
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: lax on May 10, 2009, 10:10:08 PM
wonder if the have a probabtion system tyhere

cayse,

you know, There arwe pleanty here who like to see him grace the stage again!

Of course, ther even like many more loved ones of the vistims who like to see him rot in that seel until he becomes maggott food.
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on May 10, 2009, 10:16:45 PM
brutally underrated!!!..

these 3 pics are from mr. o. 82 where fox placed 8th, the 3rd pic shows the top 3 by the way!!..

the guy swallowed a lot of injustice.. no one blame him for killing ppl later!
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: DeketheCreep on May 10, 2009, 10:20:34 PM
ONE OF THE BIGGEST KILLERS EVER  :o
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: lax on May 10, 2009, 10:21:47 PM
brutally underrated!!!..

these 3 pics are from mr. o. 82 where fox placed 8th, the 3rd pic shows the top 3 by the way!!..

the guy swallowed a lot of injustice.. no one blame him for killing ppl later!

You show 2 mm poses...hardly the most telling poses as to what makes a champion.

Let's see his BACK, compared to the WINNERS.
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: dyslexic on May 10, 2009, 10:28:28 PM
Oh, and by the way....his afro was too big...it obscured the width of his shoulders....same problem RR had to rectify on the Grand Prix Circuit.


I remember seeing pics of this black dude with a big fro. He was a bodybuilding writer or editor or some shit. He was pretty damn thick with big arms. Can't remember his name.


He might have competed a bit back when Charles Glass was still competing.
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: lax on May 10, 2009, 10:33:15 PM

I remember seeing pics of this black dude with a big fro. He was a bodybuilding writer or editor or some shit. He was pretty damn thick with big arms. Can't remember his name.


He might have competed a bit back when Charles Glass was still competing.

You are likely referring to Rick Wayne...a very good bb (Mr. World)...great writer for weider....left for st. kitts some years ago to start his own newspPER With formewr competitor and wife Mae Mollica
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: LurkyLurker on May 11, 2009, 01:46:43 AM
Bertil had a freaky upper body, but narrow clavicles and straight up and down legs. His thighs were pretty lackluster, especially next to Samir's crazy-deep separation in his legs. Bertil could have been second for sure, but he lacked the hardness and the overall balance of Samir. Bannout deserved it in '83.
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: kiwiol on May 11, 2009, 01:54:15 AM
All co-sign a petishun to release Beef it Betil - slayer of mouthy whores and victim of unjust penile system.
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: Figo on May 11, 2009, 02:57:12 AM
wasnt the winner in 83, but 5th was unfair. Those judges eventually drove him to kill.

Used to enjoy his column in the british edition of Flex.
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: Figo on May 11, 2009, 03:01:11 AM
(http://www.betterbodies1982.com/images/press/press15.jpg)
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: Figo on May 11, 2009, 03:01:53 AM
(http://es.fitness.com/forum/attachments/fotos/860d1136248257-comparaciones-curiosas-fox_020-1-.jpg)
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: Figo on May 11, 2009, 03:03:25 AM
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/bertilfox/bertilfox2.jpg)
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: Figo on May 11, 2009, 03:04:12 AM
(https://www.t-nation.com/forum_images/b/6/b6340-Sergio_Oliva_195.jpg)
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: Figo on May 11, 2009, 03:06:18 AM
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/nubret/sn141.jpg)
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: Figo on May 11, 2009, 03:07:29 AM
(http://www.bodyfreaks.com/photoplog/images/1/1_bertil__fox_photo8.jpg)
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: Figo on May 11, 2009, 03:10:43 AM
You are likely referring to Rick Wayne...a very good bb (Mr. World)...great writer for weider....left for st. kitts some years ago to start his own newspPER With formewr competitor and wife Mae Mollica


Rick Wayne had great delts and arms. Shawn of his day


(http://www.ironage.us/images/fine_print/Muscle11-72Cov.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_rw_U1LlrOFE/R_U6xXQZXuI/AAAAAAAAAGs/Osp4jlePAdA/s320/09%5B1%5D.jpg)
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: jr on May 11, 2009, 04:03:15 AM
Could he ever get his glutes tight and shredded?
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: The_Punisher on May 11, 2009, 07:06:00 AM
has he died in prison yet?
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: Parker on May 11, 2009, 07:08:31 AM
(https://www.t-nation.com/forum_images/b/6/b6340-Sergio_Oliva_195.jpg)

In the first pic, he looks like a deisel  Denzel Washington
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: D_1000 on May 11, 2009, 08:57:05 AM
All co-sign a petishun to release Beef it Betil - slayer of mouthy whores and victim of unjust penile system.

Signed. Beef it Betil has been punished enough.
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: Parker on May 11, 2009, 09:02:49 AM
All co-sign a petishun to release Beef it Betil - slayer of mouthy whores and victim of unjust penile system.

This is most of the IFBB correct. I agree the Penile system of Pro bodybuilding is very unjust. ;D
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on May 11, 2009, 09:12:44 AM
He trained with the worst form ive ever seen though...
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: nukkaready on May 11, 2009, 09:17:27 AM
Samir Bannout won the '83 Olympia fair and square. 2nd place should have gone to Haney. 3rd to Fox.
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: Parker on May 11, 2009, 09:18:51 AM
He trained with the worst form ive ever seen though...

Is form really important, if the end result is what he had?
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: Danimal77 on May 11, 2009, 05:12:54 PM
Judges DROVE him to come in at a MERE 215 pounds at the 1987 Mr. Olympia and was a SHADOW of his former glory (1982-1983)....

Was born in the wrong era.
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: Big_Tymer on May 11, 2009, 06:58:15 PM
brutally underrated!!!..

these 3 pics are from mr. o. 82 where fox placed 8th, the 3rd pic shows the top 3 by the way!!..

the guy swallowed a lot of injustice.. no one blame him for killing ppl later!

wow, that is worse than dorians '94 win.

im surprised the olympia has any credibility left after decisions like that.
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: m8 on May 11, 2009, 07:32:08 PM
Imagine if he had access to the drugs of today  :o
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: TonyAlva on May 11, 2009, 07:51:40 PM
I remember seeing him in a pictorial in an old muscle fitness training with "Baretta"  and Joe weider lol
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: haider on May 11, 2009, 08:00:59 PM
BIG BEEF IT BETIL WITH THA CRAZY ASS PECS AND ARMS!!!!

well it seems many young  gays today dont know big beef it betil  fox, but all knows the dude had crazy  ass pecs and arm s and was the gratest  bb of the 80s. anfortunlatly he  got fucked over by the penile  system sent to st kitts prision  by two mouthy whores  who got away scott free like womens always do  when  the law gets invol ved. all pleas e  remmebr this grate bb, hed have  7 or 8 os alredy but now  hes not even  on staige cuz of the brainlees legal

fucking gorila

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=108440.0;attach=121097;image)

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=108440.0 (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=108440.0)
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: Matt C on May 11, 2009, 08:40:53 PM
I would have had no problems with Bertil winning it all in 1983.  Fifth place was ridiculous.  Second place at worst I would say.  I have no major qualms with Samir winning it that year since he had superior conditioning and his back poses were arguably better.  I could have tolerated Lee Haney beating him, although I would have disagreed with it [as I disagreed with Lee Labrada beating Mike Christian in 1987].  Fifth place was an injustice in my opinion though.
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: HTexan on May 11, 2009, 11:29:02 PM
has he died in prison yet?
Do you think he is a raper or gives it up ?
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: crownshep on May 12, 2009, 04:55:34 AM
You show 2 mm poses...hardly the most telling poses as to what makes a champion.

Let's see his BACK, compared to the WINNERS.
Very true,thats Bertil on the left in the 82 NOC.
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: lax on May 12, 2009, 05:13:20 AM
Very true,thats Bertil on the left in the 82 NOC.

many many amateurs with better backs than that
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: Figo on May 12, 2009, 05:17:48 AM
back, hamstrings, posing were a prob for him
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: Immortal_Technique on May 12, 2009, 07:23:21 AM
The front half of his physique was Olympia worthy, just half a physique though. Dude had probably the worst back onstage so it's hard to give him first place in any of these line-ups.
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: Feizai on May 12, 2009, 05:07:18 PM
Very true,thats Bertil on the left in the 82 NOC.

He's not flexing in that shot.
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: Feizai on May 12, 2009, 05:11:25 PM
brutally underrated!!!..

these 3 pics are from mr. o. 82 where fox placed 8th, the 3rd pic shows the top 3 by the way!!..

the guy swallowed a lot of injustice.. no one blame him for killing ppl later!

The guy in the middle won? Really?
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: lax on May 12, 2009, 05:25:26 PM
The guy in the middle won? Really?

he does kinda resemble denzel

wonder if he has internet in prison
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: bigdumbbell on May 12, 2009, 05:27:55 PM
The guy in the middle won? Really?
what I wonder is who owns the trunks now
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: blinky on May 12, 2009, 09:21:10 PM
All co-sign a petishun to release Beef it Betil - slayer of mouthy whores and victim of unjust penile system.

that guy was awesome  ;D
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: Dballn247 on May 12, 2009, 10:07:33 PM
a man that knows how to keep his woman in line..... no doubt about it.
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: crownshep on May 13, 2009, 04:31:47 AM
He's not flexing in that shot.
Yes he is,but he had trouble pulling both his lats out in that show,the contest report in Bodybuilding Monthly said this very thing.The b/w pic you posted is from 1980 WABBA World when he placed 2nd behind Sergio, and you can see there that his rear lat spread was not all that good.The colour pic you posted is from the 87 Olympia,5 years later on from the one i posted.
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: Feizai on May 13, 2009, 07:42:07 AM
Crownshep,
 Why couldn't he spread his lats at all in 82? He does in the film from 1976.
 Do you have more of him from the 82 NOC or more of Fox and Dickerson together at the 82 O?   
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: crownshep on May 13, 2009, 11:16:18 AM
Crownshep,
 Why couldn't he spread his lats at all in 82? He does in the film from 1976.
 Do you have more of him from the 82 NOC or more of Fox and Dickerson together at the 82 O?   
It was his second IFBB show,he placed 5th in a Grand Prix the previous year,and he over dieted to get the ripped look the IFBB tended to favour,and i think that hindered his ability to hit the pose correctly.I`ve found this other pic from that show,look at how he hits the side chest,one foot placed behind,the hand of the flexed arm is on top instead of below.Now compare that side chest to this one from 1980.
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: Croatch on May 13, 2009, 11:18:38 AM
He was in a store with his wife and mom and they were talking about the '83 Olympia. His wife said something to the effect that Bertil wasn't good enough to beat 180 pound bodybuilders like Zane and that's why he got 5th. Bertil lost it pulled out a gun and blew her away. Then the mother screamed at him, "Why did you do that..you freakin' monkey..Shit you couldn't even beat Makkawy and he was only 150 pounds...Loser!!" Of course he shot her as well.
;D
All roid rage.
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: mass 04 on May 13, 2009, 11:29:21 AM
ebony mountains of murdering muscle.
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: Danimal77 on May 13, 2009, 01:03:43 PM
Crownshep,
 Why couldn't he spread his lats at all in 82? He does in the film from 1976.
 Do you have more of him from the 82 NOC or more of Fox and Dickerson together at the 82 O?   

What film from 1976?
Title: Re: The legendary Bertil Fox
Post by: Feizai on May 13, 2009, 04:54:44 PM
What film from 1976?

GMV have footage of Bertil training and posing in 1976.