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Title: Opinions of HST?
Post by: Deicide on May 14, 2009, 01:40:49 PM
I'd have to say it is one of my favourite training styles and have had good experiences with it.

What are your takes?
Title: Re: Opinions of HST?
Post by: wavelength on May 14, 2009, 02:44:12 PM
oh these rascals, always fighting
Title: Re: Opinions of HST?
Post by: Deicide on May 14, 2009, 02:57:07 PM
oh these rascals, always fighting

Have you ever done HST wave?
Title: Re: Opinions of HST?
Post by: dr.chimps on May 14, 2009, 03:04:28 PM
Always had a soft spot for the good doctor.
Title: Re: Opinions of HST?
Post by: wavelength on May 14, 2009, 03:04:53 PM
Have you ever done HST wave?

yes, worked great for strength
Title: Re: Opinions of HST?
Post by: Deicide on May 14, 2009, 03:07:15 PM
yes, worked great for strength

Yeah, I am finding that the strength losses I experienced with this shitty split I had been doing are going away and my old strength levels are coming back. I think I am done with traditional splits. Waste of time.
Title: Re: Opinions of HST?
Post by: The Master on May 14, 2009, 03:12:47 PM
yes, worked great for strength


Badabingbangboom.
Title: Re: Opinions of HST?
Post by: evandatp on May 14, 2009, 03:13:18 PM
Yeah, I am finding that the strength losses I experienced with this shitty split I had been doing are going away and my old strength levels are coming back. I think I am done with traditional splits. Waste of time.
By 'traditional' you mean Weider publication inspired bullshit?
Title: Re: Opinions of HST?
Post by: Bast000 on May 14, 2009, 03:15:28 PM
I'd have to say it is one of my favourite training styles and have had good experiences with it.

What are your takes?

maybe you should train with this style and come back when u have one muscle gained  ;D
Title: Re: Opinions of HST?
Post by: wavelength on May 14, 2009, 03:16:09 PM
Badabingbangboom.

It's not that different from powerlifting protocols. In my earlier years I did some PL plans since my first training partner was a PL.
Title: Re: Opinions of HST?
Post by: Deicide on May 14, 2009, 03:20:23 PM
maybe you should train with this style and come back when u have one muscle gained  ;D

Johnny, go sniff some paint thinner...
Title: Re: Opinions of HST?
Post by: Deicide on May 14, 2009, 03:22:15 PM
x2

What my fellow tall bro Johnny Falcon just said
Do not question us, and stop making threads about it every 5 seconds  >:(

Have you started to do the paint thinner thing as well?
Title: Re: Opinions of HST?
Post by: haider on May 14, 2009, 03:25:05 PM
It's not that different from powerlifting protocols. In my earlier years I did some PL plans since my first training partner was a PL.
Its the simplest form of periodization. Probably not as good for hypetrophy for advanced trainees since advanced trainees typically respond better to high volume.
Title: Re: Opinions of HST?
Post by: Deicide on May 14, 2009, 03:25:58 PM
Its the simplest form of periodization. Probably not as good for hypetrophy for advanced trainees since advanced trainees typically respond better to high volume.

Aren't you generalising here?
Title: Re: Opinions of HST?
Post by: haider on May 14, 2009, 03:26:48 PM
Aren't you generalising here?
yes i used the word 'typical', not generalising at all  ::)


Deicide, Im just  giving u a hard time  ;D  :-*
Title: Re: Opinions of HST?
Post by: Deicide on May 14, 2009, 03:31:48 PM
yes i used the word 'typical', not generalising at all  ::)


Deicide, Im just  giving u a hard time  ;D  :-*

I was just interested. If you go by HIT theories, the more advanced you get, the less volume you need.
Title: Re: Opinions of HST?
Post by: haider on May 14, 2009, 03:37:40 PM
I was just interested. If you go by HIT theories, the more advanced you get, the less volume you need.
Garbage. HIT is religion, not science.
Title: Re: Opinions of HST?
Post by: Deicide on May 14, 2009, 03:42:20 PM
Garbage. HIT is religion, not science.

So, what do you think is the best system?
Title: Re: Opinions of HST?
Post by: haider on May 14, 2009, 03:49:06 PM
So, what do you think is the best system?
too general a question. too many factors to consider including individual physiological response to training stimulus. IMO, the best training is something you enjoy and can make progress on. Many routines work, so pick the one you like.
Title: Re: Opinions of HST?
Post by: wavelength on May 14, 2009, 03:50:06 PM
too general a question. too many factors to consider including individual physiological response to training stimulus. IMO, the best training is something you enjoy and can make progress on. Many routines work, so pick the one you like.

wise man
Title: Re: Opinions of HST?
Post by: Deicide on May 14, 2009, 03:51:00 PM
wise man

Well, I definitely need to take a long break from splits...fucking useless for me...
Title: Re: Opinions of HST?
Post by: haider on May 14, 2009, 03:54:21 PM
wise man
irrelevant for body composition.

Wavelength approved  8)

 :D
Title: Re: Opinions of HST?
Post by: The Master on May 14, 2009, 04:18:43 PM
It's not that different from powerlifting protocols. In my earlier years I did some PL plans since my first training partner was a PL.

Exactly.

Title: Re: Opinions of HST?
Post by: wavelength on May 14, 2009, 04:32:40 PM
Exactly.

It's pretty scary how much you agree lately.
Title: Re: Opinions of HST?
Post by: Deicide on May 14, 2009, 04:48:46 PM
It's pretty scary how much you agree lately.

Duck and Wavelength=most knowledgeable on getbig...
Title: Re: Opinions of HST?
Post by: The Master on May 15, 2009, 02:01:09 AM
It's pretty scary how much you agree lately.


That was Duck. Debussey knows nothing >:(
Title: Re: Opinions of HST?
Post by: io856 on May 15, 2009, 04:33:28 AM
HST is very good

I modify it to go to failure... and progressive load

Good for strength this way and good for hypertrophy
Title: Re: Opinions of HST?
Post by: Deicide on May 15, 2009, 04:39:19 AM
HST is very good

I modify it to go to failure... and progressive load

Good for strength this way and good for hypertrophy

Isn't going to failure very much counter to what HST is about? ???
Title: Re: Opinions of HST?
Post by: io856 on May 15, 2009, 04:45:27 AM
Isn't going to failure very much counter to what HST is about? ???
High frequency of stimulus and progressive/changing tension on the muscle in the core of what what HST is about.

Now if you are an assisted lifter then hopefully you can make adjustments in your supplement regime to ensure continued increases in load...
Title: Re: Opinions of HST?
Post by: DK II on May 15, 2009, 05:00:21 AM
(http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/9/16/128660498159844805.jpg)
Title: Re: Opinions of HST?
Post by: LatsMcGee on May 15, 2009, 07:16:08 AM
HST is a pretty solid program,  in my experience most people don't get near the same results their second go on it.  It also was pretty hard on my joints.
Title: Re: Opinions of HST?
Post by: io856 on May 15, 2009, 02:19:50 PM
HST is a pretty solid program,  in my experience most people don't get near the same results their second go on it. It also was pretty hard on my joints.
Thats what happens when people raise their volume too high because of the higher frequency. Overall weekly volume should be similar to what is usually done.
Title: Re: Opinions of HST?
Post by: The Master on May 15, 2009, 05:05:01 PM
Garbage. HIT is religion, not science.

This comes from a muslim! Your whole life is based around believing in a fairytale! Why do you have any faith in science at all when your most fundamental beliefs = based around its antithesis? ;D


Ps: You are still Debusseys good loveable friend Fagger/Spermer  :-* ;)