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Title: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: Boost on May 19, 2009, 04:45:36 AM
He gets kinda stuck mid-rep, but doesn't appear to be getting much help if any in raising the bar.

I'm not sure if the spotter really touches the bar.

Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: ripitupbaby on May 19, 2009, 04:47:27 AM
Spotter helped quite a bit IMO.

Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: Chick on May 19, 2009, 04:50:25 AM
Next thing you'll be hearing is how Zack Khan has a torn pec...

Not the smartest training for a bodybuilder
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: Boost on May 19, 2009, 04:54:56 AM
Spotter helped quite a bit IMO.


The spotter doesn't have a firm grip on the bar though,

to me it appears as is he's just guiding it up.
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: jayfromeurope on May 19, 2009, 04:57:04 AM
Next thing you'll be hearing is how Zack Khan has a torn pec...

Not the smartest training for a bodybuilder

agree.
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: ripitupbaby on May 19, 2009, 04:59:29 AM
The spotter doesn't have a firm grip on the bar though,

to me it appears as is he's just guiding it up.


If you are benching raw with heavy weight like that and the bar starts sinking down on the way up, it's very very difficult - not impossible but very hard - to turn it around and get it going in the right direction without some assistance.

Also, they didn't jump up and do the customary fist pumps and head butts at the end, which leads me to believe they all knew he didn't get it by himself.

Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: rccs on May 19, 2009, 05:01:26 AM
Not impressive...
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: Royalty on May 19, 2009, 05:02:21 AM
Next thing you'll be hearing is how Zack Khan has a torn pec...

Not the smartest training for a bodybuilder


True. Zack need to learn a lesson from Kevin Levrone and Craig Titus. 500lb + bench presses are risky to a bodybuilders career.
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: alnassak on May 19, 2009, 05:03:03 AM
Next thing you'll be hearing is how Zack Khan has a torn pec...

Not the smartest training for a bodybuilder

I second you Bob. However, I think he is preparing for a Power lifting contest  ;D
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: Boost on May 19, 2009, 05:04:00 AM
He's got a weird ass voice  :o

I live not too far from him, and nobobdy really sounds like he does

Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: Meso_z on May 19, 2009, 05:08:47 AM
Next thing you'll be hearing is how Zack Khan has a torn pec...

Not the smartest training for a bodybuilder

true. Fedorov style all the way....  :-\
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: QuakerOats on May 19, 2009, 06:56:11 AM
Not impressive...
::)
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: Sir Humphrey on May 19, 2009, 07:00:18 AM
Promising future in G4P right there!!!
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: Spike on May 19, 2009, 07:00:35 AM
The spotter doesn't have a firm grip on the bar though,

to me it appears as is he's just guiding it up.

what the hell does that mean??

if the 'spotter' wasnt there = him not 'getting 6 plates up'

fck whether he had a 'good grip' or not...same thing as wearing those 'shirts'

powerlifting is bullshit, just waiting for a tendon or muscle to tear and having an excuse to be a fatass

Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: QuakerOats on May 19, 2009, 07:02:09 AM
what the hell does that mean??

if the 'spotter' wasnt there = him not 'getting 6 plates up'

fck whether he had a 'good grip' or not...same thing as wearing those 'shirts'

powerlifting is bullshit, just waiting for a tendon or muscle to tear and having an excuse to be a fatass


yes Zack Khan is extremely "fat". ::)
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: Meso_z on May 19, 2009, 07:02:18 AM
::)

you mean that "rccs" is Brandon Castleberry (sp) himself?
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: MisterMagoo on May 19, 2009, 07:02:49 AM
If you are benching raw with heavy weight like that and the bar starts sinking down on the way up, it's very very difficult - not impossible but very hard - to turn it around and get it going in the right direction without some assistance.

Also, they didn't jump up and do the customary fist pumps and head butts at the end, which leads me to believe they all knew he didn't get it by himself.

look closely, the bar DOES reverse directions before the spotter gets to it. no doubt he got some boost from the spotter, but i'm really not thinking it was more than a fingertip pull. nothing crazy, the guy didn't have to upright row it off him. take 10 or 15 pounds off that bar and he'd have gotten it, but obviously the six plate push just feels more substantial than five plates and a 35.
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: Method101 on May 19, 2009, 07:05:03 AM
He's got a weird ass voice  :o

I live not too far from him, and nobobdy really sounds like he does




It's mixture of english and arabic accent lol  :D
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: kiwiol on May 19, 2009, 07:08:33 AM


That's not DavidPaul
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: QuakerOats on May 19, 2009, 07:08:40 AM
you mean that "rccs" is Brandon Castleberry (sp) himself?
even taking 6 plates OFF THE RACK and holding it is extremely impressive, just find it funny how a guy who's arms probably shake benching 275 isn't impressed with a guy behcing almost 600 pounds raw, hahaha, some little queens and princesses are never impressed. :D
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: Spike on May 19, 2009, 07:08:44 AM
yes Zack Khan is extremely "fat". ::)

maybe if he was a fatass he wouldnt have to have someone 'not grip the bar that tight but just guide it' :o :o
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: MisterMagoo on May 19, 2009, 07:11:35 AM
even taking 6 plates OFF THE RACK and holding it is extremely impressive, just find it funny how a guy who's arms probably shake benching 275 isn't impressed with a guy behcing almost 600 pounds raw, hahaha, some little queens and princesses are never impressed. :D

i did 405 for a negative last november and it felt like my shoulders were going to blow off. i can't even FATHOM 585. i'd bet any money not one person in this thread could even get that on a two inch lockout.
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: QuakerOats on May 19, 2009, 07:12:16 AM
i did 405 for a negative last november and it felt like my shoulders were going to blow off. i can't even FATHOM 585. i'd bet any money not one person in this thread could even get that on a two inch lockout.
exactly.
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: jon cole on May 19, 2009, 07:12:51 AM
don't know what is the interest for a pro bber to bench 6 plate.
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: Fatpanda on May 19, 2009, 07:23:10 AM

If you are benching raw with heavy weight like that and the bar starts sinking down on the way up, it's very very difficult - not impossible but very hard - to turn it around and get it going in the right direction without some assistance.

Also, they didn't jump up and do the customary fist pumps and head butts at the end, which leads me to believe they all knew he didn't get it by himself.



rip i'd be happy to give you a 'fist pump' at the end of one of your workouts if you like  ;)
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: QuakerOats on May 19, 2009, 07:28:22 AM
don't know what is the interest for a pro bber to bench 6 plate.

umm..................maybe to challenge himself and the inner satisfaction that he gets knowing he can do something that you, me and 99.999999999999999999999 999999999999999999999999 999999999999999999999999 999999999999999999999999 % of the world can't do. :D
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on May 19, 2009, 07:30:45 AM
i did 405 for a negative last november and it felt like my shoulders were going to blow off. i can't even FATHOM 585. i'd bet any money not one person in this thread could even get that on a two inch lockout.

My wrists would probably snap under that  weight.
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: Method101 on May 19, 2009, 07:53:56 AM
Strong as a Gorilla

Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: jpm101 on May 19, 2009, 08:04:33 AM
Very impressive weight and did handle it well. Thought the actually finger assist did help a bit, the important psychological  factor of just having a helping hand ( or fingers) near, not even touching the bar it's self,  can give a mental boost to any lift. Always thought lifting may be just as much a mental effort as a physical one.

Khan's first language was more than likely not English. Lots of first generation accents in SoCal.

Side bar to Magoo, take it or leave it...don't care: if you include more short range (2 to 4 inches) heavy  partial lockouts in a workout you may find the total ROM bench getting stronger. Have to get use to handling a much heavier weight overall.
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: Relentless on May 19, 2009, 09:01:16 AM
For a bodybuilder, there is absolutely no reason to bench 600s lbs.  A powerlifter, yes...but not a guy trying to make money from bodybuilding. 
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: The Master on May 19, 2009, 09:07:25 AM
For a bodybuilder, there is absolutely no reason to bench 600s lbs.  A powerlifter, yes...but not a guy trying to make money from bodybuilding. 


Debussey wonders how much cash "Zack Khan" will make from BB anyway. He = big, but he talks like a doofus, looks weird and will probably never win a big big contest.

His best bet = to score a supp contract with a mediocre brand, which ain't much.

He might be better off Bbing for ego satisfaction :D
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: suckmymuscle on May 19, 2009, 09:18:58 AM
Next thing you'll be hearing is how Zack Khan has a torn pec...

Not the smartest training for a bodybuilder

  You are an idiot, Chick. The two bodybuilders with the greatest pecs ever, Coleman and Arnold, organized their entire pec workouts around benches, and regularly did doubles and singles, all to failure. Ronnie didn't even do flys, smith machine or isolation machine work in the off-season. He did three exeecises: flat bench press, incline bench press, with a free bar, and flat dumbbell presses.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: suckmymuscle on May 19, 2009, 09:22:20 AM
i did 405 for a negative last november and it felt like my shoulders were going to blow off. i can't even FATHOM 585. i'd bet any money not one person in this thread could even get that on a two inch lockout.

  Wrong. I did bench 600+ lbs raw for a single - with the aid of a benching shirt - years ago, when I was on the sauce and weighted 330 lbs - at a height of 6'4.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: Boost on May 19, 2009, 09:27:56 AM
My uncle destroyed 600lb back in '99

He lowered the bar super slow and rested it on his chest for 5 seconds.

We all thought he'd bottomed out, but all of a sudden his arms just flew up like a hydrolic lift.

It was as if 135lb was on the bar.

3 clean and controlled reps followed.

Not a spotter in sight either.

Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: Relentless on May 19, 2009, 09:50:43 AM

Debussey wonders how much cash "Zack Khan" will make from BB anyway. He = big, but he talks like a doofus, looks weird and will probably never win a big big contest.

His best bet = to score a supp contract with a mediocre brand, which ain't much.

He might be better off Bbing for ego satisfaction :D

This sport is a big joke, isn't it Debussey?   :(
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: The Master on May 19, 2009, 09:55:07 AM
This sport is a big joke, isn't it Debussey?   :(


You = correct to the nth degree 8)
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: Relentless on May 19, 2009, 10:00:35 AM

You = correct to the nth degree 8)

I'll always love bodybuilding and consider myself a bodybuilder, but the people and events surrounding this sport are less than palatable. There's a reason why it's considered a fringe sport.
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: bigbobs on May 19, 2009, 10:00:58 AM
  Wrong. I did bench 600+ lbs raw for a single - with the aid of a benching shirt - years ago, when I was on the sauce and weighted 330 lbs - at a height of 6'4.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

And didn't you also claim that Greg Kovacs had 28" arms LMAO
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: rccs on May 19, 2009, 10:14:05 AM
::)
It would be impressive if he could do do it, which he obviously can't...
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: MisterMagoo on May 19, 2009, 10:15:42 AM
My uncle destroyed 600lb back in '99

He lowered the bar super slow and rested it on his chest for 5 seconds.

We all thought he'd bottomed out, but all of a sudden his arms just flew up like a hydrolic lift.

It was as if 135lb was on the bar.

3 clean and controlled reps followed.

Not a spotter in sight either.

http://www.powerliftingwatch.com/records/600-pound-raw-bench-press

which one's your uncle? in the 1999 area i see beau moore and bob hickey. since you're claiming four reps it's probably bob hickey since he got 650 in a meet.

that's cool that you're related to a legend, dude.
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: Boost on May 19, 2009, 10:40:24 AM
http://www.powerliftingwatch.com/records/600-pound-raw-bench-press

which one's your uncle? in the 1999 area i see beau moore and bob hickey. since you're claiming four reps it's probably bob hickey since he got 650 in a meet.

that's cool that you're related to a legend, dude.
No,

he's not a powerlifter.

He was a marine, Congressional Medal of Honor, the whole nine yards.

Benching 405 for reps as a 16 year old

comfortably handled 600lb on numerous occasions just wearing a t-shirt and some old flip-flops

He'd even make jokes while under the bar

Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on May 19, 2009, 10:44:49 AM
Good single but whats the point???
Hes a bodybuilder
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: The Master on May 19, 2009, 10:52:30 AM
No,

he's not a powerlifter.

He was a marine, Congressional Medal of Honor, the whole nine yards.

Benching 405 for reps as a 16 year old

comfortably handled 600lb on numerous occasions just wearing a t-shirt and some old flip-flops

He'd even make jokes while under the bar



That = near Kaz strength on the bench.
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: kiwiol on May 19, 2009, 10:54:05 AM
Good single but whats the point???
Hes a bodybuilder

So what? Nothing wrong with pushing heavy weights if you can and like to.

Life would be too boring if you only did what you need to do and not what you want to do (as long as it's not affecting someone else adversely).
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on May 19, 2009, 10:59:31 AM
So what? Nothing wrong with pushing heavy weights if you can and like to.

Life would be too boring if you only did what you need to do and not what you want to do (as long as it's not affecting someone else adversely).
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Sorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrryyyy yyyyyyyyyy Mr.Bumbum
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: Ursus on May 19, 2009, 11:01:00 AM
Older i get more i realise most bbuilders who are huge and compete use shit weight

less than 300lbs and do lots of reps and sets in 8-12 in short space of time.

big muscles in most cases is not built with big weights
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: Boost on May 19, 2009, 11:02:09 AM
Older i get more i realise most bbuilders who are huge and compete use shit weight

less than 300lbs and do lots of reps and sets in 8-12 in short space of time.

big muscles in most cases is not built with big weights
Yup,

a man can simply use his bodyweight to sculpture a fantastic physique.
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: rccs on May 19, 2009, 11:02:18 AM
So what? Nothing wrong with pushing heavy weights if you can and like to.

Life would be too boring if you only did what you need to do and not what you want to do (as long as it's not affecting someone else adversely).
That is true, plus, most guys don't even have enough training capacity to go heavy. Most people around here base their training 100% on drugs. When the juice is over they don't even train, plain and simple. But they forget that the best bbers always trained with more intensity and heavier than all the other bbers...
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: Ursus on May 19, 2009, 11:06:54 AM
Yup,

a man can simply use his bodyweight to sculpture a fantastic physique.

Guy who competed at 17st 10 in NABBA show benched like 80-120kg for 8-12

im stronger than him yet he has a 56"chest and 21inch arms atm whilst at 280lbs leanish
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: kiwiol on May 19, 2009, 11:09:02 AM
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Sorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrryyyy yyyyyyyyyy Mr.Bumbum

 :D

That is true, plus, most guys don't even have enough training capacity to go heavy. Most people around here base their training 100% on drugs. When the juice is over they don't even train, plain and simple. But they forget that the best bbers always trained with more intensity and heavier than all the other bbers...

Exactly. I think that's one of the main reasons why bodybuilders looked a whole lot better in the 90s - back then, we all heard plenty of stories and saw clips of insane lifts by guys like Ronnie, Dorian, Kevin, Marcus, Cormier etc. I haven't seen anyone from the current crop who has a rep for lifting heavy like that. Seems like they rely on drugs and Slin a lot more now, to look muscular, rather than get that look from heavy lifting.

Guys who lift heavy ALWAYS have a look of thickness, density and maturity that the guys who lift light and get pumped up on juice will never have. That's why guys like Milos looked paper thin next to guys like Ronnie and Dorian.
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on May 19, 2009, 11:10:15 AM
:D



Haha didnt wanna fall out with u man
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: kiwiol on May 19, 2009, 11:11:41 AM
Haha didnt wanna fall out with u man

Nah, trust me, you won't - I'm very laid back and I always try to get along. Life's too short to be hatin' and fightin'.

Plus, you are a cool guy and a tank, you stud you.
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: The Master on May 19, 2009, 11:12:50 AM
Life's too short to be hatin' and fightin'.



Unless you find the game of bickering and fighting funny just for the hell of it :D ;D
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: QuakerOats on May 19, 2009, 12:22:08 PM
  Wrong. I did bench 600+ lbs raw for a single - with the aid of a benching shirt - years ago, when I was on the sauce and weighted 330 lbs - at a height of 6'4.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
any video or pics of this feat?
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: QuakerOats on May 19, 2009, 12:22:59 PM
My uncle destroyed 600lb back in '99

He lowered the bar super slow and rested it on his chest for 5 seconds.

We all thought he'd bottomed out, but all of a sudden his arms just flew up like a hydrolic lift.

It was as if 135lb was on the bar.

3 clean and controlled reps followed.

Not a spotter in sight either.


bool..............fucckin'.....................shi t.
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: mesmorph78 on May 19, 2009, 12:35:40 PM
Strong as a Gorilla


Thats IMpressive...
just goes to show there are some STRONG people out there
but i bet if this guy was posting here under an alias and said he could do that you would hear boooooooolshit  yeah right your stongerstonger than arnie..... stronger than coleman  ::) ::) ::)
Great Lift verry impressive .. i remember once i said here i have seen a guy bench six plates.... and people nearly tore my head off...
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: funk51 on May 19, 2009, 12:49:04 PM
He's got a weird ass voice  :o

I live not too far from him, and nobobdy really sounds like he does


                 he was blessed with lennox lewis's voice, maybe he ate one of his children. mike tyson ref.
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: QuakerOats on May 19, 2009, 12:50:25 PM
Thats IMpressive...
just goes to show there are some STRONG people out there
but i bet if this guy was posting here under an alias and said he could do that you would hear boooooooolshit  yeah right your stongerstonger than arnie..... stronger than coleman  ::) ::) ::)
Great Lift verry impressive .. i remember once i said here i have seen a guy bench six plates.... and people nearly tore my head off...

the thing is though is that James is 6'5" and 400 pounds, he's not claiming ridiculous shit like 19 and half inch arms at 205 on 2 meals a day natural like you, you're the biggest bullshitter on here by far.
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: funk51 on May 19, 2009, 12:53:00 PM
He gets kinda stuck mid-rep, but doesn't appear to be getting much help if any in raising the bar.

I'm not sure if the spotter really touches the bar.


            senseless this guydoesn't appear to be too bright. as seen in mti when he got called a wuss by ohotog he upped the weight for a pic. didn't he ever hear of jean fux.
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: suckmymuscle on May 19, 2009, 01:09:23 PM
:D

Exactly. I think that's one of the main reasons why bodybuilders looked a whole lot better in the 90s - back then, we all heard plenty of stories and saw clips of insane lifts by guys like Ronnie, Dorian, Kevin, Marcus, Cormier etc. I haven't seen anyone from the current crop who has a rep for lifting heavy like that. Seems like they rely on drugs and Slin a lot more now, to look muscular, rather than get that look from heavy lifting.

Guys who lift heavy ALWAYS have a look of thickness, density and maturity that the guys who lift light and get pumped up on juice will never have. That's why guys like Milos looked paper thin next to guys like Ronnie and Dorian.


  Excellent post. Dorian and Ronnie are two of the three bodybuilders from the past 25 years who didn't rely exclusively on drugs to build their physiques. The other was Mike Francois, but unfortunately colitis got to him.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: MisterMagoo on May 19, 2009, 01:28:17 PM
Thats IMpressive...
just goes to show there are some STRONG people out there
but i bet if this guy was posting here under an alias and said he could do that you would hear boooooooolshit  yeah right your stongerstonger than arnie..... stronger than coleman  ::) ::) ::)
Great Lift verry impressive .. i remember once i said here i have seen a guy bench six plates.... and people nearly tore my head off...

thing is, dude, that's james henderson, arguably the greatest raw bencher in history. he's not just some guy at someone's gym that no one's ever heard of. i mean, if you happened to see brian siders or jeremy hoornstra benching then yeah people would believe you, but to claim that a random dude tucked away in a gym in buttfuck nowhere is smashing 585 raw is like saying a guy down the street from you runs a 40 yard dash in 4.3.
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: mesmorph78 on May 19, 2009, 01:46:43 PM
wsup Magoo...
so let me ask you something what if before gym Henderson was "known" he was benching 5 or 6 wheels in a gym somewhere everyone has to be unknown before they are known. Or is that its only when they are well known that these kind of feats are feasible...?
think outside of the box....
i am by no means exceptional at bench .... you have people who are... and if i can move 4 wheels...
what would an exceptional bencher be moving??? ... cut back on the cynicism..
i have seen with nmy 2 eyes 6 wheels been benched... have no need to lie
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: Ursus on May 19, 2009, 01:49:19 PM
a 19yr old in my gym was benching 400lbs at 210lbs easily and drug free

He was just great at it. I beat him on everything else apart from them. Some people are just gifted
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: HUGEPECS on May 19, 2009, 01:52:24 PM
            senseless this guydoesn't appear to be too bright. as seen in mti when he got called a wuss by ohotog he upped the weight for a pic. didn't he ever hear of jean fux.



can you spell correctly?....jeez
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: MisterMagoo on May 19, 2009, 02:01:22 PM
wsup Magoo...
so let me ask you something what if before gym Henderson was "known" he was benching 5 or 6 wheels in a gym somewhere everyone has to be unknown before they are known. Or is that its only when they are well known that these kind of feats are feasible...?
think outside of the box....
i am by no means exceptional at bench .... you have people who are... and if i can move 4 wheels...
what would an exceptional bencher be moving??? ... cut back on the cynicism..
i have seen with nmy 2 eyes 6 wheels been benched... have no need to lie

only you know if that's true or not and frankly i'm not here to debate it. i'm just explaining why people would be skeptical. once you get into a certain realm the odds of one being capable of things without competing whatsoever is increasingly slim.

someone ripping 4 plates in the gym? totally feasible. i'm almost there and i'm a noodle.

a dude hitting five plates that doesn't do PL meets? not impossible, i know two (although they're pretty gassed up and one MIGHT have done comps).

six plates? now you're starting to talk about the 1% of the 1% and someone that DOESN'T compete obviously isn't trying to peak, which means you're sitting on a guy who could ostensibly become one of only fifty men in history to do a certain athletic feat.

see what i mean? the odds start to get more and more remote for there to be a guy hidden in a gym nowhere that plays no sports, does no competitions, and yet is so strong he'd be able to rack up 1st place trophies by the armload if he ever sauntered his way onto the platform.
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: Ursus on May 19, 2009, 02:10:09 PM
Zack khan is 300 odd lbs there and 6'2 and on every drug under the sun.

Plus he never got it.

Of course its possible that some guys in teh gym will bench 585lbs

Also you lot are fucking retards. Boots is taking the piss out of you. Normally id let you guys be and laugh at you but you guys are getting wound up. Is it the same uncles that was 'getting teh better of tyson in a street brawl''

dont be retards. Enjoy his humour without getting a stomach ulcer
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: MAXX on May 19, 2009, 02:24:21 PM
wsup Magoo...
so let me ask you something what if before gym Henderson was "known" he was benching 5 or 6 wheels in a gym somewhere everyone has to be unknown before they are known. Or is that its only when they are well known that these kind of feats are feasible...?
think outside of the box....
i am by no means exceptional at bench .... you have people who are... and if i can move 4 wheels...
what would an exceptional bencher be moving??? ... cut back on the cynicism..
i have seen with nmy 2 eyes 6 wheels been benched... have no need to lie

who do you compare yourself to juicers when you claim natural.

makes you go hmmm
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: Dreadlifter on May 19, 2009, 02:50:57 PM

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Quote from: kiwiol on Today at 11:09:02 AM
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Exactly. I think that's one of the main reasons why bodybuilders looked a whole lot better in the 90s - back then, we all heard plenty of stories and saw clips of insane lifts by guys like Ronnie, Dorian, Kevin, Marcus, Cormier etc. I haven't seen anyone from the current crop who has a rep for lifting heavy like that. Seems like they rely on drugs and Slin a lot more now, to look muscular, rather than get that look from heavy lifting.

Guys who lift heavy ALWAYS have a look of thickness, density and maturity that the guys who lift light and get pumped up on juice will never have. That's why guys like Milos looked paper thin next to guys like Ronnie and Dorian.


  Excellent post. Dorian and Ronnie are two of the three bodybuilders from the past 25 years who didn't rely exclusively on drugs to build their physiques. The other was Mike Francois, but unfortunately colitis got to him.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

I second that excellent post comment.

It used to be that pro's were as strong as well as big. Part of me thinks that's how it should be. It's good to see a guy like Khan attempting a weight like that.

Personally, if i had to choose to be big, strong, or big and strong i'd choose big and strong anytime.
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: mesmorph78 on May 19, 2009, 03:56:24 PM
who do you compare yourself to juicers when you claim natural.

makes you go hmmm
never compared myself with anyone....
I said exceptional benchers....


magoo... who came up with the figure that its only in the 1 percentile..
not everything falls under a formula .. or statistic...
for instance my mentor at the 2nd gym i trained at benched 5 wheels.. i personally unracked this for me.... deadlifted 7 plates
and what about layne norton..?
or the vid someone posting of someone who posts here deadlifting 700lbs?
it really bemuses me how people can sit behind a keyboard and rattle off figures that governs the 6.7 billion billion people that live on planet earth....
anyway.. I leave you all to it
mes  :)
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: QuakerOats on May 19, 2009, 04:01:07 PM
never compared myself with anyone....
I said exceptional benchers....


magoo... who came up with the figure that its only in the 1 percentile..
not everything falls under a formula .. or statistic...
for instance my mentor at the 2nd gym i trained at benched 5 wheels.. i personally unracked this for me.... deadlifted 7 plates
and what about layne norton..?
or the vid someone posting of someone who posts here deadlifting 700lbs?
it really bemuses me how people can sit behind a keyboard and rattle off figures that governs the 6.7 billion billion people that live on planet earth....
anyway.. I leave you all to it
mes  :)

::)
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: MisterMagoo on May 19, 2009, 04:39:02 PM
magoo... who came up with the figure that its only in the 1 percentile..

50 men have benched 600 or better in a competition. statistically that's .00000000083% of the population. so do some adjusting for 585 instead of 600 and a gym bench rather than a meet lift and i'm still being generous.

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and what about layne norton..?

well-established bodybuilding competitor, sponsored athlete, has done powerlifting meets.

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or the vid someone posting of someone who posts here deadlifting 700lbs?

jason pegg, veteran powerlifting competitor, also a sponsored athlete (i think). again, proving my point that you just can't find people doing those kind of absurd feats unless they're competitors.

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it really bemuses me how people can sit behind a keyboard and rattle off figures that governs the 6.7 billion billion people that live on planet earth....
anyway.. I leave you all to it
mes  :)

bemused: deeply absorbed in thought. contrary to what you might think, "bemused" and "amused" are not similar words. please stop.
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: mesmorph78 on May 19, 2009, 07:03:25 PM
50 men have benched 600 or better in a competition. statistically that's .00000000083% of the population. so do some adjusting for 585 instead of 600 and a gym bench rather than a meet lift and i'm still being generous.

well-established bodybuilding competitor, sponsored athlete, has done powerlifting meets.

jason pegg, veteran powerlifting competitor, also a sponsored athlete (i think). again, proving my point that you just can't find people doing those kind of absurd feats unless they're competitors.

bemused: deeply absorbed in thought. contrary to what you might think, "bemused" and "amused" are not similar words. please stop.
I did mean mean bemused as in it makes me deeply wonder and analyse where you guys come from with these statistics and i am quite aware of the definition...
..so what about layne norton before he was known.....??
what you are sayin is there is no possible was  unless someone is know or enters power lifting meets they can move 5 or 6 plates...
so at some point in my life when i WILL bench 5 wheels...  or when you HIT 5 wheels what then.... ?
 ???
ok man
i hear ya...
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: MisterMagoo on May 19, 2009, 07:27:54 PM
I did mean mean bemused as in it makes me deeply wonder and analyse where you guys come from with these statistics and i am quite aware of the definition...
..so what about layne norton before he was known.....??
what you are sayin is there is no possible was  unless someone is know or enters power lifting meets they can move 5 or 6 plates...
so at some point in my life when i WILL bench 5 wheels...  or when you HIT 5 wheels what then.... ?
 ???
ok man
i hear ya...

before layne was known... he wasn't squatting over 500 pounds or deadlifting over 600. he was a kid on bb.com who did a few local shows, had some potential.

what i'm saying is that (aside from your claim that you'll bench 5 plates natty is even funnier than your claim to be benching 4 plates natty) is that the odds of some dude hiding in your gym with a six wheel bench that has THAT much athletic ability but isn't using it for anything whatsoever are crazy low. again, like saying your friend can run a 40 yard dash in 4.3, maybe it's possible but why the hell would someone THAT good not be doing anything athletic with his life?

the reason it's rare is because usually anyone that strong, that fast, that whatever is actually capitalizing on his ability. it'd be like finding a guy claiming to have a 195 IQ who can solve 5x5x5 rubiks cubes but he works at IHOP as a janitor. sure, people do that, but do you really think someone that naturally talented is mopping puke and syrup up for a living? the guy benching six plates at your gym isn't playing any sports, he doesn't compete, nothing?

meso, you're an okay guy, strong as hell, and you look good, but you do drop a lot of BS out of your mouth man.
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: jack_ftype on May 19, 2009, 07:43:10 PM
I used to life in Tallahassee, FL and i knew a guy who repped 585 on close grips about 5 weeks out from Southern State bodybuilding comp, and regularly went over 600 for reps.

His name is Jeremy Hoornstra.  And he will go down as the best in history!
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: DeketheCreep on May 19, 2009, 08:02:19 PM

It's mixture of english and arabic accent lol  :D
kinda like a camel  ;D
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: mesmorph78 on May 19, 2009, 08:05:40 PM
before layne was known... he wasn't squatting over 500 pounds or deadlifting over 600. he was a kid on bb.com who did a few local shows, had some potential.

what i'm saying is that (aside from your claim that you'll bench 5 plates natty is even funnier than your claim to be benching 4 plates natty) is that the odds of some dude hiding in your gym with a six wheel bench that has THAT much athletic ability but isn't using it for anything whatsoever are crazy low. again, like saying your friend can run a 40 yard dash in 4.3, maybe it's possible but why the hell would someone THAT good not be doing anything athletic with his life?

the reason it's rare is because usually anyone that strong, that fast, that whatever is actually capitalizing on his ability. it'd be like finding a guy claiming to have a 195 IQ who can solve 5x5x5 rubiks cubes but he works at IHOP as a janitor. sure, people do that, but do you really think someone that naturally talented is mopping puke and syrup up for a living? the guy benching six plates at your gym isn't playing any sports, he doesn't compete, nothing?

meso, you're an okay guy, strong as hell, and you look good, but you do drop a lot of BS out of your mouth man.


i aleady posted a vid of me benching 4 wheels.. but im not talking about that... .. thats irelevant
i just dont see how someone can sit behind a computer and say thats impossible for you etc... obviosuly there are limits as we are human ... but to say no one is who isunknown can move 5 wheels is silly... or six... like i said i have seen 1 guy in all my training bench 6 wheels he was thick as hell short very stocky kind of fat but thick and muscular... old in his 40's married with kids first time i saw him was  at my barber shop he stood out like a sore thumb
why would i need to lie about anything .... what bullshit have i dropped out my mouth everything i have said i can do i have done... and put vids up of it... so because i have stated what i have seen with my eyes... im talkin bullshit .mmmm ok
thats a bit disrespectful...i have NEVER called bullshit on ANYONE because who am i to tell a guy what his pontential is... or tell a guy what he has seen or hasnt seen all im sayin is the world is a big place and different gifts... do not underestimate that concept anyway I'll leave it at that man and i have NEVER LIED ON THESE FORUMS
anyway you are entitled to your opinion...
meso truly out
respect
..
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: gh15 on May 19, 2009, 08:09:58 PM
wsup Magoo...
so let me ask you something what if before gym Henderson was "known" he was benching 5 or 6 wheels in a gym somewhere everyone has to be unknown before they are known. Or is that its only when they are well known that these kind of feats are feasible...?
think outside of the box....
i am by no means exceptional at bench .... you have people who are... and if i can move 4 wheels...
what would an exceptional bencher be moving??? ... cut back on the cynicism..
i have seen with nmy 2 eyes 6 wheels been benched... have no need to lie


at your size only on hormones,, 4 5 6 with your size which is nothign to write home about ..only on hormones

meaning no moving of the wiehgt wil happen unless hormones used  at your size

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: GroinkTropin on May 19, 2009, 09:06:28 PM
You can list a few reasons why he SHOULD do something like this- personal gratification, little bit of e-press (most likely) but honestly there is a much longer list of reasons why he should NOT do it. He's begging for a torn pec or tricep, and more often than not these are CAREER enders, not minor annoyances. Well, he doesn't really have a career yet so you could argue he has nothing to lose but either way on contest day noone gives a shit how much you lift but they DO care about your torn pec.
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: Matt C on May 19, 2009, 11:47:50 PM
Can't Zach G deadlift well over 500?
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: camelisator on May 19, 2009, 11:49:03 PM
liquid_c on here reps with 6 plates... and doesn't brag about it.
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: QuakerOats on May 20, 2009, 06:24:48 AM

i aleady posted a vid of me benching 4 wheels.. but im not talking about that... .. thats irelevant
i just dont see how someone can sit behind a computer and say thats impossible for you etc... obviosuly there are limits as we are human ... but to say no one is who isunknown can move 5 wheels is silly... or six... like i said i have seen 1 guy in all my training bench 6 wheels he was thick as hell short very stocky kind of fat but thick and muscular... old in his 40's married with kids first time i saw him was  at my barber shop he stood out like a sore thumb
why would i need to lie about anything .... what bullshit have i dropped out my mouth everything i have said i can do i have done... and put vids up of it... so because i have stated what i have seen with my eyes... im talkin bullshit .mmmm ok
thats a bit disrespectful...i have NEVER called bullshit on ANYONE because who am i to tell a guy what his pontential is... or tell a guy what he has seen or hasnt seen all im sayin is the world is a big place and different gifts... do not underestimate that concept anyway I'll leave it at that man and i have NEVER LIED ON THESE FORUMS
anyway you are entitled to your opinion...
meso truly out
respect
..
boolshit.
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: funk51 on May 20, 2009, 03:07:04 PM


can you spell correctly?....jeez
                   sorry hugepecs, i didn't know we have an english major in our mist. ironically i to was an english major at one time but as my body grew my mind atrophied to the pathetic mush it has become. excuse me i'll try harder in the future to spell correctly.
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: robins on May 23, 2009, 04:50:34 AM
boolshit.
What's your problem fatboy? A bit jealous of Meso? He posts proof of his lifts. All you do is calling bullshit. Time and time again your getting destroyed.
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: chris_mason on May 23, 2009, 09:38:18 AM
what the hell does that mean??

if the 'spotter' wasnt there = him not 'getting 6 plates up'

fck whether he had a 'good grip' or not...same thing as wearing those 'shirts'

powerlifting is bullshit, just waiting for a tendon or muscle to tear and having an excuse to be a fatass



Right moron... Gee, no famous bodybuilders have torn muscles...  The internet, voice of the stupid.

Lifting heavy for singles does not necessarily increase the incidence of torn mucles.  In fact, I am willing to bet you see a LOT more full tears in bodybuilders than powerlifters.

Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: elite_lifter on May 23, 2009, 09:43:18 AM
Right moron... Gee, no famous bodybuilders have torn muscles...  The internet, voice of the stupid.

Lifting heavy for singles does not necessarily increase the incidence of torn mucles.  In fact, I am willing to bet you see a LOT more full tears in bodybuilders than powerlifters.


Our resident pusher of garbage supplements chiming in.  ::) You look like SHIT in your avatar BTW!
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: chris_mason on May 23, 2009, 09:44:06 AM
Oh, and that is a great lift, spotter or no.  I would guess he can touch and go 550 lbs or so, and that is VERY good.

In terms of what people can do, some huge guy was at the MHP booth at this year's Arnold.  He was doing the bench your weight for reps deal.  He was lean and weighed in the 270 range.  He benched 275 lbs for 50 controlled reps and stopped not because he had to, but because he chose to.  Jeremy Hoornstra (one of the strongest raw benchers in the world) was spotting and I could tell he was very impressed as he looked over to Joe Mazza (to my recollection) and just kind of smiled and shook his head.  

Long story short, there are some very strong mofos out there.  
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: chris_mason on May 23, 2009, 09:47:24 AM
Our resident pusher of garbage supplements chiming in.  ::) You look like SHIT in your avatar BTW!

Lol, you always try.  Good job.  Tell you what, I will be the resident pusher of garbage supps and YOU will be the resident little pussy who hides behind its keyboard. 

Like I said, the internet is the voice of the stupid.  I am glad you were born of a generation with the technology to allow you to spew your stupidity for all to see.  Now, not just those close to you will know what an ass you are, EVERYONE has the chance.  Bravo! 
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: MisterMagoo on May 23, 2009, 11:34:40 AM
Our resident pusher of garbage supplements chiming in.  ::) You look like SHIT in your avatar BTW!

two things:

1) the supps are legit. seriously, i wish i was a better lifter because then i could gun for an AtLarge sponsorship.

2) chris is a tank. bigger, leaner, and stronger than roughly 99% of people on here. i'd argue that outside of pegg/wolfe and the other lifting competitors he's the strongest on the board period.
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: jack_ftype on May 23, 2009, 01:49:06 PM
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Jeremy Hoornstra (one of the strongest raw benchers in the world) was spotting and I could tell he was very impressed as he looked over to Joe Mazza (to my recollection) and just kind of smiled and shook his head. 
did Jeremy bench?  I know he was injured a while ago, i think he tore his bicep(?).. was he fully recovered?  I can see him breaking 700 in competition soon if he was.  I swear, it was such a privilege to train with him and watch him train back when, I don't know if I'll ever lift with anybody or even see anybody that strong again.
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: elite_lifter on May 23, 2009, 02:37:56 PM
two things:

1) the supps are legit. seriously, i wish i was a better lifter because then i could gun for an AtLarge sponsorship.

2) chris is a tank. bigger, leaner, and stronger than roughly 99% of people on here. i'd argue that outside of pegg/wolfe and the other lifting competitors he's the strongest on the board period.
Your opinion doesn't count anymore, word is you enjoy the cock!
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: chris_mason on May 23, 2009, 06:27:11 PM
Your opinion doesn't count anymore, word is you enjoy the cock!

Lol, how old are you?  You do realize that might be a "cool" slam in like 4th grade, but not as an adult? 
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: chris_mason on May 23, 2009, 06:27:56 PM
did Jeremy bench?  I know he was injured a while ago, i think he tore his bicep(?).. was he fully recovered?  I can see him breaking 700 in competition soon if he was.  I swear, it was such a privilege to train with him and watch him train back when, I don't know if I'll ever lift with anybody or even see anybody that strong again.

Yeah, but with a very close grip and he went up to a bit over 600 lbs.  He was just exhibition lifting. 
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: elite_lifter on May 23, 2009, 07:54:19 PM
Lol, how old are you?  You do realize that might be a "cool" slam in like 4th grade, but not as an adult? 
Where is the lab assay I asked to see for the Novus bar, Chris? You do realize any legitimate company such as Optimum Nutrition, who I worked for, would gladly provide a lab assay if asked., they have nothing to hide. Your products DO NOT contain what your label indicates. Your company is and will always be at the bottom of the supplement world if it manages to not go out of business. You are a bloated clown and your attitude sucks, those who are successful in business do not portray such an attitude as you. I am old enough to know a shady supplement company when I see one. I have worked for companies such a www.lef.org and www.optimumnutrition.com ,check out their web pages you might learn something although I doubt it. Carry on FOOL!!
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: Camel Jockey on May 23, 2009, 08:36:59 PM
Zack Khan is a strong dude.

Tons of lowlife haters here lol  ;D
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: local hero on May 24, 2009, 12:06:36 AM
zacks got big numbers on all his lifts,,,,,,,,,,, cant beleive some one seriously asked if he could deadlift 500lb????......



And to the u dont need to lift big to get big,,,, name one pro that couldnt piss 4 plates on the bench??

Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: body88 on May 24, 2009, 12:10:41 AM
Spotter helped quite a bit IMO.



Lol, the guy didn't even lurch forward that much.  If he was helping "quite a bit" he would have been working hader than that. 
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: Method101 on May 24, 2009, 08:57:08 AM
Can't Zach G deadlift well over 500?
thats supposed to be impressive? i deadlift 405x2 as natural with 1.5 years training, 500 is not out of sight.
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: liquid_c on May 24, 2009, 12:14:28 PM
Strong dude without a doubt.  However to be considered "IMO" a complete "gym" bench press:


1. No pause is required for a gym bench press, however your butt cannot come off the bench.

2. The spotter should not have his hands touching the bar in any way no matter how little.

Spotter touches the bar at all before lockout "not counting if you use a spotter to help you unrack the bar" = no bench press.
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: mesmorph78 on May 24, 2009, 01:33:01 PM
Strong dude without a doubt.  However to be considered "IMO" a complete "gym" bench press:




Spotter touches the bar at all before lockout "not counting if you use a spotter to help you unrack the bar" = no bench press.

this is key
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: chris_mason on May 25, 2009, 09:39:36 AM
Strong dude without a doubt.  However to be considered "IMO" a complete "gym" bench press:


1. No pause is required for a gym bench press, however your butt cannot come off the bench.

2. The spotter should not have his hands touching the bar in any way no matter how little.

Spotter touches the bar at all before lockout "not counting if you use a spotter to help you unrack the bar" = no bench press.

It is not a contest press, but that doesn't take away from the lift.  Some of the strongest contest benchers in the world have viewed the video and think the man is very strong.
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: mesmorph78 on May 25, 2009, 09:46:19 AM
he is strong no doubt... but once the bar is touched or held on the ascent... in my eyes you cant do it..
drop the weight  and put the weight up yourself
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: chris_mason on May 25, 2009, 10:06:32 AM
he is strong no doubt... but once the bar is touched or held on the ascent... in my eyes you cant do it..
drop the weight  and put the weight up yourself

Meso, think about what you are saying.  The guy tried a weight and barely missed it.  That is called a PR attempt.  No one makes them all.  I guarantee you he would have gotten 550-560 lbs which is still VERY impressive. 
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: mesmorph78 on May 25, 2009, 10:44:51 AM
yes i agree very impressive....  i think he could get 5 plates and 3 quarters.. fairly easy judging... BUT he didnt get 6 wheels...thats all im saying but he is huge 300lbs + 23 inch guns... that should be within his capacity...
maybe its the title of the thread Zach khan benching 6 plates...
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: elite_lifter on May 25, 2009, 10:49:14 AM
Meso, think about what you are saying.  The guy tried a weight and barely missed it.  That is called a PR attempt.  No one makes them all.  I guarantee you he would have gotten 550-560 lbs which is still VERY impressive. 
Thanks for your insight on this momentus feat of strength, the world is now enlightened. I wonder how you manage to find your way out of bed in the morning, did you even manage to get a H.S. Diploma, what am I thinking of course you didn't.
Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: chris_mason on May 25, 2009, 01:40:06 PM
Thanks for your insight on this momentus feat of strength, the world is now enlightened. I wonder how you manage to find your way out of bed in the morning, did you even manage to get a H.S. Diploma, what am I thinking of course you didn't.

 :)

Title: Re: Zack Khan benching 6 plates
Post by: SaltShaker on May 25, 2009, 02:13:25 PM
He gets kinda stuck mid-rep, but doesn't appear to be getting much help if any in raising the bar.

I'm not sure if the spotter really touches the bar.


so many things wrong in that clip, but the most important one IMO is that HES A BODYBUILDER, NOT A POWERLIFTER...WTF is he accomplishing benching 6 plates for .75 rep (.25 was the spotter) . No wonder why there are so many stupid injuries, guys like him benching wayyy more than they have to . just because you cant bench 6 plates even for one full rep doesnt mean its worth doing if your a bodybuilder...