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Title: Which Mr. Olympia was more controversial: The '72 or '80?
Post by: Pollux on May 26, 2009, 12:24:38 PM
I'm going with the '80 Olympia because of all the hoopla that happened on stage AND off!

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Title: Re: Which Mr. Olympia was more controversial: The '72 or '80?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on May 26, 2009, 12:40:26 PM
I'm going with the '80 Olympia because of all the hoopla that happened on stage AND off!

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Title: Re: Which Mr. Olympia was more controversial: The '72 or '80?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on May 26, 2009, 12:47:25 PM
Mr. O 2000 & 2002

Where a man pregnant with an alien baby won instead of the true deserver.

Don't forget 2001  ;)


 Kevin Levrone

The plain truth is that I beat Ronnie last year [2000] and Jay Cutler beat Ronnie this year. You should not win the Mr. Olympia if your stomach is hanging out -- period. Last year, I patted Ronnie's stomach during the posedown to draw attention to the fact that he was bloated. That tactic obviously didn't work, and Ronnie beat me in the posedown to successfully defend his title for a third straight Mr. O triumph.


So now the show rolls around and Jay Cutler beats Ronnie in both prejudging rounds: symmetry and muscularity. Ronnie was spilling over with too much water during the muscularity round, and Cutler took it to him in many of the poses that Coleman usually dominates.

How can Cutler lose this contest if he wins in both symmetry and muscularity? How can Ronnie retain his title if his midsection is bloated and distended? Why should the fans get behind a champion who can't present an aesthetic image of what bodybuilding is supposed to be all about?

I'm talking about classical proportions, perfect symmetry and ideal conditioning. Based on that ideal, I should have won the Sandow in 2000, and Cutler should have taken it in 2001.

The fans deserve better than what they are getting. I'm already working hard to ensure that, in 2002, a true peoples' champ can strip the title away from Ronnie Coleman.


and he same nonsense in 2002  :-\
Title: Re: Which Mr. Olympia was more controversial: The '72 or '80?
Post by: tendonitis on May 26, 2009, 02:00:51 PM
80 was more controversial. of course 07 was the worst judging decision in the history of the Olympia
Title: Re: Which Mr. Olympia was more controversial: The '72 or '80?
Post by: TRIX on May 26, 2009, 02:57:32 PM
GTFO... about aesthetics, thats what sore losers use, like shawn ray because they are small bitches... people dont buy mags and go to shows to see aesthetics, that is fucking homo.. thay go to see freaks.. ronnie is a freak, and jay nor anyone come close to looking like him..
Title: Re: Which Mr. Olympia was more controversial: The '72 or '80?
Post by: Option D on May 26, 2009, 03:00:16 PM
80 was more controversial. of course 07 was the worst judging decision in the history of the Olympia

YES....Mr Olympia 2007....Dennis Wolf
Title: Re: Which Mr. Olympia was more controversial: The '72 or '80?
Post by: body88 on May 26, 2009, 03:05:34 PM
GTFO... about aesthetics, thats what sore losers use, like shawn ray because they are small bitches... people dont buy mags and go to shows to see aesthetics, that is fucking homo.. thay go to see freaks.. ronnie is a freak, and jay nor anyone come close to looking like him..

Thread over, "trix" has spoken, lol.     ::)
Title: Re: Which Mr. Olympia was more controversial: The '72 or '80?
Post by: New Hank Wood on May 26, 2009, 03:27:42 PM
Ronnie; love or hate him.  Call him dumb, retarded and ignorant.  Bottom line, he has the Sandow's on his mantelpiece.  All this bitching and moaning by Levrone and Co. is immaterial.

Ronnie won because he was able to bring the biggest and most bloated drug-package available.

Ronnie won because he was anti-aesthetic, antisymmetry.  He was all mass, bloat and distortion.

Yes, Ronnie may well be remembered as the most-pregnant and the dumbest bodybuilder on the planet, but hey, he's got the Sandows on the shelf!
Title: Re: Which Mr. Olympia was more controversial: The '72 or '80?
Post by: Mr. Magoo on May 26, 2009, 03:35:36 PM
81. Without a doubt.
Title: Re: Which Mr. Olympia was more controversial: The '72 or '80?
Post by: Danimal77 on May 26, 2009, 06:38:24 PM
I was talking about how Kevin got cheated, but yes, Jay did deserve to win 2001, also Flex believed he was better than Ronnie in 99.

Half of Ronnie's Sandows belong to other men, men who actually deserved it.


Same thing applied to at least 2 of Dorian's Sandows.
Title: Re: Which Mr. Olympia was more controversial: The '72 or '80?
Post by: Pollux on May 26, 2009, 07:19:51 PM
81. Without a doubt.

That Olympia was just ridiculous!  ::)

But do you think it was more so than the '80 Olympia?
Title: Re: Which Mr. Olympia was more controversial: The '72 or '80?
Post by: Mr. Magoo on May 26, 2009, 07:24:14 PM
That Olympia was just ridiculous!  ::)

But do you think it was more so than the '80 Olympia?

of course. At least with Arnold you have some people claiming he should have won (in certain poses, if u saw him in person, etc etc). But I havn't heard a person yet say Franco is the rightful winner of 81. With 81 the argument is who should have won instead of Franco (Padilla, platz..), not whether or not Franco should have won.
Title: Re: Which Mr. Olympia was more controversial: The '72 or '80?
Post by: Pollux on May 26, 2009, 07:35:24 PM
of course. At least with Arnold you have some people claiming he should have won (in certain poses, if u saw him in person, etc etc). But I havn't heard a person yet say Franco is the rightful winner of 81. With 81 the argument is who should have won instead of Franco (Padilla, platz..), not whether or not Franco should have won.

True. Good call.
Title: Re: Which Mr. Olympia was more controversial: The '72 or '80?
Post by: Hulkster on May 26, 2009, 09:12:21 PM
Don't forget 2001  ;)


 Kevin Levrone

The plain truth is that I beat Ronnie last year [2000] and Jay Cutler beat Ronnie this year. You should not win the Mr. Olympia if your stomach is hanging out -- period. Last year, I patted Ronnie's stomach during the posedown to draw attention to the fact that he was bloated. That tactic obviously didn't work, and Ronnie beat me in the posedown to successfully defend his title for a third straight Mr. O triumph.


So now the show rolls around and Jay Cutler beats Ronnie in both prejudging rounds: symmetry and muscularity. Ronnie was spilling over with too much water during the muscularity round, and Cutler took it to him in many of the poses that Coleman usually dominates.

How can Cutler lose this contest if he wins in both symmetry and muscularity? How can Ronnie retain his title if his midsection is bloated and distended? Why should the fans get behind a champion who can't present an aesthetic image of what bodybuilding is supposed to be all about?

I'm talking about classical proportions, perfect symmetry and ideal conditioning. Based on that ideal, I should have won the Sandow in 2000, and Cutler should have taken it in 2001.

The fans deserve better than what they are getting. I'm already working hard to ensure that, in 2002, a true peoples' champ can strip the title away from Ronnie Coleman.


and he same nonsense in 2002  :-\

Kevin is such a sore loser:

he got crushed in 2000 and he knows it:
Title: Re: Which Mr. Olympia was more controversial: The '72 or '80?
Post by: Hulkster on May 26, 2009, 09:13:13 PM
Same thing applied to at least 2 of Dorian's Sandows.

like 94 for example

even Musclemag thought dorian stole the title - they coined the term `one armed bandit` to describe dorian that year in their `muscle go round`section of the mag.

they thought the womens contest in 94 was even more of a fix..and I dont blame them -Lendy Murry was literally atrophied that year and Laura Creavalle was perfect..
Title: Re: Which Mr. Olympia was more controversial: The '72 or '80?
Post by: Triple-H_2005 on May 26, 2009, 09:27:46 PM
like 94 for example

even Musclemag thought dorian stole the title - they coined the term `one armed bandit` to describe dorian that year in their `muscle go round`section of the mag.

they thought the womens contest in 94 was even more of a fix..and I dont blame them -Lendy Murry was literally atrophied that year and Laura Creavalle was perfect..
(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r75/glwaters56/1994-mr-olympia-112.jpg)Give it a rest...
Until you are able to admit that your hero wasn't perfection in 2001 or 2002, any anti-Dorian argument you make is redundant.
Title: Re: Which Mr. Olympia was more controversial: The '72 or '80?
Post by: alnassak on May 26, 2009, 11:25:52 PM
Kevin is such a sore loser:

he got crushed in 2000 and he knows it:

 ::)
Title: Re: Which Mr. Olympia was more controversial: The '72 or '80?
Post by: MethodGNA on May 27, 2009, 02:14:46 AM
i gotta say, i went over that 80 olympia, in what i feel to be an objective manner due to that fact that i really didnt care who won...im not particularly an arnold fan.  first off, arnold definatly did not bring anything even resembling his best package that year, but that being said...no one there deserved to beat him.  there were guys there with better singuler body parts (coe, platz) and metzner might have been a little crisper...but still, no one, in my opinion was really close to him...even in his deteriorated state, arnold won because the muscles just sat on his body better, if you look at him compared to the rest of the competitors, notice the way his muscle hangs off his body...it was the most aesthetic, and pretty much the biggest.  even with the amount of water he was carrying...he still deserved it.
Title: Re: Which Mr. Olympia was more controversial: The '72 or '80?
Post by: local hero on May 27, 2009, 03:51:01 AM
ive got to agree.... its just seem cool for people to knock him,,who would u say should have won... mentzer? fuck off.....
Title: Re: Which Mr. Olympia was more controversial: The '72 or '80?
Post by: LatsMcGee on May 27, 2009, 03:54:08 AM
I can't believe the Nasser fags haven't invaded this thread.  They sicken me.
Title: Re: Which Mr. Olympia was more controversial: The '72 or '80?
Post by: Figo on May 27, 2009, 04:09:02 AM
In 71 Arnold really deserved to win, no contest!
Title: Re: Which Mr. Olympia was more controversial: The '72 or '80?
Post by: lax on May 27, 2009, 04:16:50 AM
only ones a deserved are ones in which he was uncontested
Title: Re: Which Mr. Olympia was more controversial: The '72 or '80?
Post by: Neptuno on May 27, 2009, 04:45:12 AM
Without any doubt, 80 and 81 were two big jokes from the judges (or higuer....)
Title: Re: Which Mr. Olympia was more controversial: The '72 or '80?
Post by: Pollux on May 27, 2009, 04:46:42 AM
In 71 Arnold really deserved to win, no contest!

Duh! No one competed against him.  :D
Title: Re: Which Mr. Olympia was more controversial: The '72 or '80?
Post by: Pollux on May 27, 2009, 04:48:12 AM
Without any doubt, 80 and 81 were two big jokes from the judges (or higuer....)

If you're gonna compare those two years, the '81 Olympia takes the cake.  ::)
Title: Re: Which Mr. Olympia was more controversial: The '72 or '80?
Post by: Pollux on May 27, 2009, 04:49:55 AM
ive got to agree.... its just seem cool for people to knock him,,who would u say should have won... mentzer? fuck off.....

Even if Arnold never competed in the '80 Olympia, Mike STILL would've been a fuckin' cry baby that day.
Title: Re: Which Mr. Olympia was more controversial: The '72 or '80?
Post by: Danimal77 on May 27, 2009, 04:32:53 PM
like 94 for example

even Musclemag thought dorian stole the title - they coined the term `one armed bandit` to describe dorian that year in their `muscle go round`section of the mag.

they thought the womens contest in 94 was even more of a fix..and I dont blame them -Lendy Murry was literally atrophied that year and Laura Creavalle was perfect..

No, I think he was deserving of that win (if not him than Shawn Ray for sure). I was referring to 1996 and 1997.
Title: Re: Which Mr. Olympia was more controversial: The '72 or '80?
Post by: ibfasport on May 27, 2009, 05:08:31 PM
the most controversial Olympia was 2007
Title: Re: Which Mr. Olympia was more controversial: The '72 or '80?
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 27, 2009, 05:18:23 PM
The 80 Mentzer got ripped off, Joe Weider had this fixed..
Title: Re: Which Mr. Olympia was more controversial: The '72 or '80?
Post by: Pollux on May 27, 2009, 06:37:18 PM
The 80 Mentzer got ripped off, Joe Weider had this fixed..

Oh great. A Mentzer fan. ::)
Title: Re: Which Mr. Olympia was more controversial: The '72 or '80?
Post by: lax on May 28, 2009, 03:48:31 AM
Even if Arnold never competed in the '80 Olympia, Mike STILL would've been a fuckin' cry baby that day.

and the funniest thing about that is if you had said that to his face, he'd have slapped the corn-cob yellow off your teeth,fudge packer
Title: Re: Which Mr. Olympia was more controversial: The '72 or '80?
Post by: lax on May 28, 2009, 03:50:31 AM
That Olympia was just ridiculous!  ::)

But do you think it was more so than the '80 Olympia?

yes
bc Arnold deserved it less than Franco
Arnold stood amongst far superior competition
Title: Re: Which Mr. Olympia was more controversial: The '72 or '80?
Post by: lax on May 28, 2009, 03:53:46 AM
i gotta say, i went over that 80 olympia, in what i feel to be an objective manner due to that fact that i really didnt care who won...im not particularly an arnold fan.  first off, arnold definatly did not bring anything even resembling his best package that year, but that being said...no one there deserved to beat him.  there were guys there with better singuler body parts (coe, platz) and metzner might have been a little crisper...but still, no one, in my opinion was really close to him...even in his deteriorated state, arnold won because the muscles just sat on his body better, if you look at him compared to the rest of the competitors, notice the way his muscle hangs off his body...it was the most aesthetic, and pretty much the biggest.  even with the amount of water he was carrying...he still deserved it.

well, there were complete bb's there
A had no...not no...but NON EXISTENT leg development

this alone should have put him ast the bottom with Roy Duval and Waller

Katz woulkd even have beaten him if he were there
Title: Re: Which Mr. Olympia was more controversial: The '72 or '80?
Post by: Pollux on May 28, 2009, 05:52:13 AM
and the funniest thing about that is if you had said that to his face, he'd have slapped the corn-cob yellow off your teeth,fudge packer

Stop whining! You're 'hero' is six feet under, bonehead. Give it a rest.  :D

(http://www.ehponline.org/docs/2005/113-2/crybaby.jpg)



Title: Re: Which Mr. Olympia was more controversial: The '72 or '80?
Post by: lax on May 28, 2009, 06:01:00 AM
Stop whining! You're 'hero' is six feet under, bonehead. Give it a rest.  :D

(http://www.ehponline.org/docs/2005/113-2/crybaby.jpg)





I have no 'hero' poof boy
I revel thru my own exploits
and none of whom you speak are dead

for the record
if you ever met Arnold, he'd laugh in your face
Title: Re: Which Mr. Olympia was more controversial: The '72 or '80?
Post by: oldman on May 28, 2009, 07:53:36 AM
Let me help, the reason a champ wins year after year is something Zane called the incumbency theory.  For instance, Arnold won the 80 Olympia because the judges saw Arnold on stage, but in their minds he was his former self.  That is the image of Arnold they are used to seeing, huge and in shape.  It really didn't matter what he looked like, in the judges minds that was Arnold up there, the champ.  Mentzer, Coe, or anyone else up there would have had to blow (poor choice of word) the judges minds to beat Arnold, the champ.  Same thing with Ronnie, whether he was in shape or not, he was the champ. 

Title: Re: Which Mr. Olympia was more controversial: The '72 or '80?
Post by: hipolito mejia on May 28, 2009, 08:09:13 AM
The 80 Mentzer got ripped off, Joe Weider had this fixed..

next to Arnold Mentzer was nothing........
Title: Re: Which Mr. Olympia was more controversial: The '72 or '80?
Post by: Pollux on May 28, 2009, 09:42:05 AM
next to Arnold Mentzer was nothing........

Exactly! Lax keeps butt fuckin' Mike in his defense.  ::)
Title: Re: Which Mr. Olympia was more controversial: The '72 or '80?
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on May 28, 2009, 10:12:26 AM
Even if Arnold never competed in the '80 Olympia, Mike STILL would've been a fuckin' cry baby that day.

I don't know, Arnold did mess him up quite good...