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Title: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: kcballer on May 27, 2009, 11:29:31 AM
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/25/cnn-poll-powell-vs-cheney-and-limbaugh/ (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/25/cnn-poll-powell-vs-cheney-and-limbaugh/)

The CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey, released Monday, suggests that 70 percent have a favorable opinion of Powell, who was Secretary of State during President George W. Bush's first term, and who served as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff during the Persian Gulf War.

Only 30 percent of those polled have a favorable view of Limbaugh, the popular conservative radio talk show host, with 53 percent saying they hold an unfavorable opinion.

In poll numbers released Thursday, 37 percent say they have a favorable opinion of Dick Cheney, with 55 percent indicating they hold an unfavorable view of the former vice president.

Among Republicans, it's a different story. The poll suggests that 66 percent of Republicans have a favorable view of Cheney, 64 percent give Powell a thumbs up, and 62 view Limbaugh in a favorable way.


Seems to me Americans identify with Powell more than Rush and Cheney.  So why oh why does the Republican party continue to ostracize Powell and mollycoddle Rush and Cheney?

Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: tu_holmes on May 27, 2009, 12:02:40 PM
Cuz the "base"  of the Republican party doesn't like black people? :D

Seriously though, it's because the Neo-Conservative base isn't always in tune with the rest of America.

That base is what? About 30 percent? Which is pretty much the 30 percent who like Limbaugh or Cheney.


Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: BM OUT on May 27, 2009, 12:09:39 PM
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/25/cnn-poll-powell-vs-cheney-and-limbaugh/ (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/25/cnn-poll-powell-vs-cheney-and-limbaugh/)

The CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey, released Monday, suggests that 70 percent have a favorable opinion of Powell, who was Secretary of State during President George W. Bush's first term, and who served as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff during the Persian Gulf War.

Only 30 percent of those polled have a favorable view of Limbaugh, the popular conservative radio talk show host, with 53 percent saying they hold an unfavorable opinion.

In poll numbers released Thursday, 37 percent say they have a favorable opinion of Dick Cheney, with 55 percent indicating they hold an unfavorable view of the former vice president.

Among Republicans, it's a different story. The poll suggests that 66 percent of Republicans have a favorable view of Cheney, 64 percent give Powell a thumbs up, and 62 view Limbaugh in a favorable way.


Seems to me Americans identify with Powell more than Rush and Cheney.  So why oh why does the Republican party continue to ostracize Powell and mollycoddle Rush and Cheney?



Thats the dumbest poll Ive ever seen and it means nothing.Rush has had the same approval numbers for years.Yet,Bush got re-elected.How was that possible?Rush is a polarizing figure.He SHOULD have approval numbers like that.

Now,people approve of Powell because THEY DONT KNOW WHAT HE BELIEVES ON ANY ISSUE!!!Whats his view of immigration,partial birth abortion,tax cuts,the Obama economic plan etc.Its easy to have high approval ratings when no one knows what you stand for.So that poll is useless.BY the way Cheney had higher approval ratings at the same point in his term that Biden has in his and thats with the media sucking Obamas dick everyday.
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: shootfighter1 on May 27, 2009, 12:12:56 PM
The republicans will win back power if they do two main things:
1. Focus the message on lowering spending, lowering taxes and trimming the budget/deficit
2. Be more inclusive.  The base must be tolerant.  It is important to see people like Michael Steele and others who are not white males.

Economic philosophy needs to be color blind.  Many people do not like paying lots of taxes and do not like a strong central government (which our constitution tried to prevent).
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: BM OUT on May 27, 2009, 12:15:44 PM
The republicans will win back power if they do two main things:
1. Focus the message on lowering spending, lowering taxes and trimming the budget/deficit
2. Be more inclusive.  The base must be tolerant.  It is important to see people like Michael Steele and others who are not white males.

Economic philosophy needs to be color blind.  Many people do not like paying lots of taxes and do not like a strong central government (which our constitution tried to prevent).
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Agree 100%.I also think the lowering taxes message will draw latinos who are very hard workers.They need to convince them that we want you to KEEP your money and not give it to those that dont work.Thats a winning message.
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: shootfighter1 on May 27, 2009, 12:29:11 PM
I think the problem is that a lot of people avoid paying taxes, particularly self-employed trade workers (ie landscapers, plumbers, carpendars, electricians, roofers, etc).  Actually, all sorts of people avoid paying their full taxes.  If all people paid taxes, I'll bet there would be more support for lowering taxes and forcing the gov to lower its spending.  Thats why a national sales tax should be considered.
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: The True Adonis on May 27, 2009, 12:47:50 PM
I think the problem is that a lot of people avoid paying taxes, particularly self-employed trade workers (ie landscapers, plumbers, carpendars, electricians, roofers, etc).  Actually, all sorts of people avoid paying their full taxes.  If all people paid taxes, I'll bet there would be more support for lowering taxes and forcing the gov to lower its spending.  Thats why a national sales tax should be considered.

If you had to choose between a VERY Social Liberal Democrat who is adamant about a National Sales Tax like Mike Gravel or Ronald Reagan, whom would you vote for?
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: BM OUT on May 27, 2009, 01:17:22 PM
If you had to choose between a VERY Social Liberal Democrat who is adamant about a National Sales Tax like Mike Gravel or Ronald Reagan, whom would you vote for?

Mike Gravel is a midget compared to Reagan.You cant take an all time great and dimish him by comparing him to Gravel.Now,if you ask me if Id vote for Gravel over ,say a Mike Hukabee,it would be a toss up.Id have to examine both more but Im not a religious right wing fan.
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: George Whorewell on May 27, 2009, 10:15:43 PM
If the economy does not catch fire by years end, all the republicans will have to do is sit back and wait to retake the majority. Obama was elected for 2 reasons and only one of them means squat to the country at large.

So far Obama has done EXACTLY the opposite of what he promised in the camapaign with respect to Iraq, Guantanamo etc. In addition, his all talk and no action foreign policy has made him look at times inexperienced and at others foolish. 

If Obama's redistribution of wealth and the democratics strategy to spend us into the stone age/ take government control of the private sector does not reap significant returns- ie the unemployment rate shrinks dramatically, it wont matter if Barry walks on water while juggling chainsaws with his eyes closed, or how many Manchurian Candidate speeches he gives, he will be out of Pennsylvania Avenue on his ass after one term.

All this talk of inclusivity is nonsense. McCain, the weakest candidate in the election, still had 40something percent of the countries popular vote and this was after 2 terms of GW Bush. Believe me, the American people will run back to the right if Barry, Nancy and the rest dont fix the economy. Inclusivity is just code for letting in the undesirables of the democratic base run amok in the republican party and get their asses kissed. Thanks, but no thanks. I'd rather have the productive members of society in my corner- quality over quantity.

Americans ( the ones who vote, work for a living and make this country what it is today) only care about results anyway.

BTW- Does anyone else find it completely stupid to compare Rush to Powell in a national poll of non republicans in order to show that more Americans identify with Powell? LOL

This just in, among non- democrats Bill O'Reilly has a higher approval rating than Clay Aiken. This demonsates irrefutably that more Americans identify with O'Reilly. Yet for some strange reason liberals continue to Bash O'Reilly and support Clay Aiken  ::) Hmmmmmmm....

Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: 240 is Back on May 27, 2009, 10:21:33 PM
whorewell,

you're right - but - the repubs have yet to offer an alternative, or a better option.

if obama fails, that's half of the equation.  But they need to do their part, and replace the repub image of "bush/cheney do what they want, don't care what you think, and Rush limbaugh defends it".

The image needs to be something like "Repubs are financially responsible, they care about national defense, and they do give a shit what you think".
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: Hugo Chavez on May 27, 2009, 10:26:34 PM
holy shit, Rush is that popular... That does speak volumes...
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: 240 is Back on May 27, 2009, 10:28:17 PM
holy shit, Rush is that popular... That does speak volumes...

Only 30 percent of those polled have a favorable view of Limbaugh

yeah, that means 1 in 3 people you see in traffic thinks Rush is right.

Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: Hugo Chavez on May 27, 2009, 10:33:56 PM
Only 30 percent of those polled have a favorable view of Limbaugh

yeah, that means 1 in 3 people you see in traffic thinks Rush is right.


but even higher within the party, 62% favorable rating among republicans.  OMG...  That is seriously disastrous.
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: 240 is Back on May 27, 2009, 10:37:40 PM
but even higher within the party, 62% favorable rating among republicans.  OMG...  That is seriously disastrous.

I dunno... I am pretyt neutral about Rush.  I see him as a businessman who learned how to exploit the emotional, reactive religious zealouts known as far-right republicans.

he steals 3 hours of their day, every day, by whining about the things they hate, demonizing a guy (obama) trying to replace the guy who started 2 wars and bankrupted us, and telling them that they're right.

He gives this third of america the words "You're right, and everyone else is wrong".  And since a lot of them tune in, he makes a lot of money.


honestly, I think he could just as easily be on lib radio if that's where the $ is.  However, libs spend their evenings having sex, while neocons watch the Factor and masturbate during the Neutrogena commercials.
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: 24KT on May 27, 2009, 10:48:05 PM
but even higher within the party, 62% favorable rating among republicans.  OMG...  That is seriously disastrous.

...and why the Republican party will remain out of touch with America and her needs.
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: 240 is Back on May 27, 2009, 10:58:22 PM
...and why the Republican party will remain out of touch with America and her needs.

why can't america be a guy?

I mean, aren't we the most borrow-happy, misinformed, immature, selfish, junk food eating, "kicking-ass-first-and-investigating-later", country in the world?

aren't those male qualities, for the most part?   :D
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: 24KT on May 27, 2009, 11:04:43 PM
why can't america be a guy?

I mean, aren't we the most borrow-happy, misinformed, immature, selfish, junk food eating, "kicking-ass-first-and-investigating-later", country in the world?

aren't those male qualities, for the most part?   :D

{blush}  ...ooops, I stand corrected!  ;D
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: Hugo Chavez on May 27, 2009, 11:10:38 PM
...and why the Republican party will remain out of touch with America and her needs.
exactly, I don't see Republicans attracking new voters as well with a guy like Rush being loved by that many in the party. 
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: 24KT on May 28, 2009, 12:07:55 AM
exactly, I don't see Republicans attracking new voters as well with a guy like Rush being loved by that many in the party. 

That's fine by me. He can act as the pied piper for America drawing all the neo-cons to his side.
While they're there ranting, raving, belly-aching... and engaging in as much bathroom stall sex as they want,
...the moderate conservatives will be busy working with the dems, ...and together in a bi-partisan way, can go about fixing the mess the neo-cons created.  :)
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: MM2K on May 28, 2009, 01:22:03 AM
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you're right - but - the repubs have yet to offer an alternative, or a better option.

if obama fails, that's half of the equation.  But they need to do their part, and replace the repub image of "bush/cheney do what they want, don't care what you think, and Rush limbaugh defends it".

The image needs to be something like "Repubs are financially responsible, they care about national defense, and they do give a shit what you think".

Im not so sure about that. All the Democrats did in 2006 was sit back and bitch, and they still won (though not by much in most of the races that they won). They were in on all that big spending. That's why electing them in 2006 was such a foolish thing to do, even though the Republicans did screw up.
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: 24KT on May 28, 2009, 01:32:52 AM
Im not so sure about that. All the Democrats did in 2006 was sit back and bitch, and they still won (though not by much in most of the races that they won). They were in on all that big spending. That's why electing them in 2006 was such a foolish thing to do, even though the Republicans did screw up.

When you have Mark Foley, the Republican co-chair of the congressional committee on missing & exploited children, revealed to be a gay pedophile trying to orchestrate a liason with a teenage congressional page... with senior members of the GOP looking the other way... Dems don't have to do a darn thing but sit back and count their votes.  :D

Whatever happened to him anyway... Does anyone know if he eventually checked out of rehab?
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: MM2K on May 28, 2009, 01:51:13 AM
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When you have Mark Foley, the Republican co-chair of the congressional committee on missing & exploited children, revealed to be a gay pedophile trying to orchestrate a liason with a teenage congressional page... with senior members of the GOP looking the other way... Dems don't have to do a darn thing but sit back and count their votes. 


If I remember correctly the messages he sent were albiet suggestive but still also somewhat ambiguous. The Democrats have always and will always have thier scandals. Atleast Republicans hold themselves up to higher standards and punish themselves when they dont rise to those standards, while Democrats dont do a dam thing to the people who orchestrate thier scandals. People voted thier hearts and not thier heads. Nothing will happen to Nancy Pelosi, the Speaker of the House, who did something far more dangerous to the security of the country by playing politics with the CIA.


Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: 24KT on May 28, 2009, 02:43:19 AM


If I remember correctly the messages he sent were albiet suggestive but still also somewhat ambiguous. The Democrats have always and will always have thier scandals. Atleast Republicans hold themselves up to higher standards and punish themselves when they dont rise to those standards, while Democrats dont do a dam thing to the people who orchestrate thier scandals. People voted thier hearts and not thier heads. Nothing will happen to Nancy Pelosi, the Speaker of the House, who did something far more dangerous to the security of the country by playing politics with the CIA.

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Ambiguous?

What's your idea of ambiguous?

There's nothing ambiguous about:

I'm surprised he didn't show up on "To Catch A Predator" {lol}
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: Deicide on May 28, 2009, 02:58:00 AM
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Ambiguous?

What's your idea of ambiguous?

There's nothing ambiguous about:
  • "How big is your penis?"
  • "Do I make you horny?"
  • "Are you horny right now?"
  • "Tell me how you masturbate?"
  • etc., etc., etc., ...

I'm surprised he didn't show up on "To Catch A Predator" {lol}


You care way too much about a country whose citizenship you don't have. Are you bored?
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: BM OUT on May 28, 2009, 06:27:04 AM
I dunno... I am pretyt neutral about Rush.  I see him as a businessman who learned how to exploit the emotional, reactive religious zealouts known as far-right republicans.

he steals 3 hours of their day, every day, by whining about the things they hate, demonizing a guy (obama) trying to replace the guy who started 2 wars and bankrupted us, and telling them that they're right.

He gives this third of america the words "You're right, and everyone else is wrong".  And since a lot of them tune in, he makes a lot of money.


honestly, I think he could just as easily be on lib radio if that's where the $ is.  However, libs spend their evenings having sex, while neocons watch the Factor and masturbate during the Neutrogena commercials.

So,he does the EXACT same things that Olberman and Madow do,EXCEPT he is good at it at and people actually listen to him.I heard that little girl and that little dyke cry,whine and bitch about Bush everyday for years [and they are still at it every night]you never raised an eyebrow.

Now we have a marxist in the white house ,who is purposely destroying the country,and the right should say nothing.Why?Because he is a minority?
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: BM OUT on May 28, 2009, 06:29:13 AM
By the way,libs are having sex,it just happens that the people they are having sex with are of the same sex as them.Conservatives are too busy going to their kids ballgames and daughters plays.Conservatives actually believe in raising their kids.
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: 24KT on May 28, 2009, 06:30:12 AM
So,he does the EXACT same things that Olberman and Madow do,EXCEPT he is good at it at and people actually listen to him.I heard that little #### and that little dyke cry,whine and bitch about Bush everyday for years [and they are still at it every night]you never raised an eyebrow.

Now we have a marxist in the white house ,who is purposely destroying the country,and the right should say nothing.Why?Because he is a minority?

'Cause the guy has barely begun his term in office, and he's attempting to fix the giant fackacta mess the GOP left.
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: 24KT on May 28, 2009, 06:31:38 AM
By the way,libs are having sex,it just happens that the people they are having sex with are of the same sex as them.Conservatives are too busy going to their kids ballgames and daughters plays.Conservatives actually believe in raising their kids.

Alan Keyes was great example of that.  ;D
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: IFBBwannaB on May 28, 2009, 06:39:58 AM
If you had to choose between a VERY Social Liberal Democrat who is adamant about a National Sales Tax like Mike Gravel or Ronald Reagan, whom would you vote for?

I would choose the one that produces tons of gold easily  ::) ;D
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: BM OUT on May 28, 2009, 07:23:59 AM
'Cause the guy has barely begun his term in office, and he's attempting to fix the giant fackacta mess the GOP left.

Fixing it by making it worse?Will you be happy with cap and trade,a value added tax,being forced to drive shitty little cars,having your health care be taxed as income.IF you have a job,you will think this is a disaster.If you dont work,you probably think its great.A trillion dollar deficit turned into a 3 trillion dollar deficit.Yes sir,he is fixing it.
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: OzmO on May 28, 2009, 08:38:41 AM
Fixing it by making it worse?Will you be happy with cap and trade,a value added tax,being forced to drive shitty little cars,having your health care be taxed as income.IF you have a job,you will think this is a disaster.If you dont work,you probably think its great.A trillion dollar deficit turned into a 3 trillion dollar deficit.Yes sir,he is fixing it.

No.  It wouldn't matter who's in office.  TAXES will have gone up to make up for the BUSH F up.  And there still would have the Big Bail out Bonanza!
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: BM OUT on May 28, 2009, 08:43:53 AM
No.  It wouldn't matter who's in office.  TAXES will have gone up to make up for the BUSH F up.  And there still would have the Big Bail out Bonanza!

Umm,the fuck up was by Barney Frank,Maxine Waters and Chris Dodd.THEY DESTROYED the housing market forcing banks to give shitty loans to nit wits that couldnt pay the loans back.This was done to "equal the playing field".THATS what destroyed the economy.The Bush tax cuts put MORE revenue into the government.This cant be argued.Raising taxes fixes NOTHING!!!!It never ever has and it never ever will.
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: tu_holmes on May 28, 2009, 09:22:45 AM
By the way,libs are having sex,it just happens that the people they are having sex with are of the same sex as them.Conservatives are too busy going to their kids ballgames and daughters plays.Conservatives actually believe in raising their kids.
Quite possibly the most ridiculous sentence you've ever posted.

Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: BM OUT on May 28, 2009, 09:30:24 AM
Quite possibly the most ridiculous sentence you've ever posted.



Yes it was!!!I notice NOTHING WAS SAID WHEN THAT LITTLE RETARD 240 said libs are having sex while conservatives are jerking off the FOX news.THATS a well thought out post.Your a moron!!!I posted that to fight stupidity with stupidity.Try to keep up nit wit.
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: tu_holmes on May 28, 2009, 09:34:09 AM
Yes it was!!!I notice NOTHING WAS SAID WHEN THAT LITTLE RETARD 240 said libs are having sex while conservatives are jerking off the FOX news.THATS a well thought out post.Your a moron!!!I posted that to fight stupidity with stupidity.Try to keep up nit wit.

Perhaps, but I know you meant to say, "You're a moron!!!"

Just just spell it properly.

You think I read every single post? Maybe if you "quoted" his post, I would have responded to that as well, but you're apparently not bright enough to figure out that button.

For someone who claims to be so intelligent, you sure do meltdown like a neanderthal.
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 28, 2009, 09:44:49 AM
The GOP sucks and I hope they keep losing unless they change course.   
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: BM OUT on May 28, 2009, 10:10:03 AM
Perhaps, but I know you meant to say, "You're a moron!!!"

Just just spell it properly.

You think I read every single post? Maybe if you "quoted" his post, I would have responded to that as well, but you're apparently not bright enough to figure out that button.

For someone who claims to be so intelligent, you sure do meltdown like a neanderthal.

Well if you could fucking read and not worrying about grading my posts,teacher,you would have seen that I DID quote it dumb ass guy.It was the last post on the first page,the second post was a continuation.So,next time,talk what you know dickhead.
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: Deicide on May 28, 2009, 10:27:14 AM
The GOP sucks and I hope they keep losing unless they change course.   

LOL

99% of all politicians suck, parties are pretty much the same.
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: tu_holmes on May 28, 2009, 11:09:10 AM
Well if you could fucking read and not worrying about grading my posts,teacher,you would have seen that I DID quote it dumb ass ####.It was the last post on the first page,the second post was a continuation.So,next time,talk what you know dickhead.

The post I quoted did not quote anything... That's what I saw.

You really are a moron Billy and proof that the Neo-Cons cater to some of the nations least brightest minds.
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: tu_holmes on May 28, 2009, 11:10:16 AM
The GOP sucks and I hope they keep losing unless they change course.   

Agreed... They are certainly not the GOP I connected with in my younger years.
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: BM OUT on May 28, 2009, 11:15:39 AM
The post I quoted did not quote anything... That's what I saw.

You really are a moron Billy and proof that the Neo-Cons cater to some of the nations least brightest minds.

You really are a pussy.Proof that Obama and the rest of the libs goes right after half wits like you.Booo hooo,Billy is a an idiot.What a fucking pussy.Id beat your fucking ass face to face.Just another example of an internet girl with computer muscles.PUSSY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 28, 2009, 11:19:34 AM
Agreed... They are certainly not the GOP I connected with in my younger years.

That is the problem, there is no real choice anymore.  Both parties are so similar on so many issues that it does not matter anymore who you vote for. 

Can anyone really say McCain would be doing anything that much different than Obama on most issues?

Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: tu_holmes on May 28, 2009, 11:19:56 AM
You really are a pussy.Proof that Obama and the rest of the libs goes right after half wits like you.Booo hooo,Billy is a an idiot.What a fucking pussy.Id beat your fucking ass face to face.Just another example of an internet #### with computer muscles.PUSSY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm the pussy? Billy, you're threatening Internet violence over a message board.

You are the lowest common denominator in society.
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: tu_holmes on May 28, 2009, 11:21:09 AM
That is the problem, there is no real choice anymore.  Both parties are so similar on so many issues that it does not matter anymore who you vote for. 

Can anyone really say McCain would be doing anything that much different than Obama on most issues?



Honestly, no... The past few months have shown that minus a couple of small things here and there, there would most likely be no difference in the way the two ran the country.

So far, Obama has not shown me what the people voted for and I'm disappointed to say the least.
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: OzmO on May 28, 2009, 11:44:15 AM
Umm,the fuck up was by Barney Frank,Maxine Waters and Chris Dodd.THEY DESTROYED the housing market forcing banks to give shitty loans to nit wits that couldnt pay the loans back.

No.  They opened the door and every politician in BOTH parties enjoyed the benefits.  It ran fine until the bubble finally broke because the housing prices reached a level most couldn't afford in 2007.


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This was done to "equal the playing field".THATS what destroyed the economy.The Bush tax cuts put MORE revenue into the government.This cant be argued.Raising taxes fixes NOTHING!!!!It never ever has and it never ever will.

Did Clinton raise taxes? I think he did.  And he ended up with a surplus.  I'm not arguing that raising taxes always solves the problem, but with trillions in new debt, ZERO consumer confidence, and broken housing market, no one is  spending money.  Businesses and people are all cutting back and its not because of new taxes.  Raising taxes would have happened on McCain's watch too.  Our representatives aren't concerned with ideology.  Ideology is used by them to manipulate their voters something that you are falling rank and file with.
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: Dos Equis on May 28, 2009, 01:10:57 PM
I'm the pussy? Billy, you're threatening Internet violence over a message board.


Um . . . pot . . . kettle . . . .
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: tu_holmes on May 28, 2009, 01:35:39 PM
Um . . . pot . . . kettle . . . .

Yeah, if someone talks about how I treat my kids, or them... that's the only reason.

People can say shit about anything else all day long Beach.

I didn't call anyone a pussy either.
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: Dos Equis on May 28, 2009, 01:44:12 PM
Yeah, if someone talks about how I treat my kids, or them... that's the only reason.

People can say shit about anything else all day long Beach.

I didn't call anyone a pussy either.

Well Billy has certain things that set him off too.  I would never get upset (and never have on this board) over comments by someone on the internet that I don't even know. 

Kind of hard to criticize him for wanting to do someone violence over things posted on the board when you've done the same thing. 

That said, although it's not something that bothers me, I can understand why you would get angry if someone talks about your kids.  That kind of stuff should be off limits. 
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: tu_holmes on May 28, 2009, 01:48:24 PM
Well Billy has certain things that set him off too.  I would never get upset (and never have on this board) over comments by someone on the internet that I don't even know. 

Kind of hard to criticize him for wanting to do someone violence over things posted on the board when you've done the same thing. 

That said, although it's not something that bothers me, I can understand why you would get angry if someone talks about your kids.  That kind of stuff should be off limits. 

Discussing how any person parents or treats their children, or discussion of their children in a negative or derogatory way... I get it... That's not what Billy was threatening violence about.

Hell, he called me a pussy for telling him that we don't do that kind of stuff here on the politics board... Completely uncalled for. I didn't say anything bad about the gimmick until he decided to say something negative about me, and even then, since it was about me personally and not related to the previously mentioned kid issue, I didn't even think twice about it.
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: Fury on May 28, 2009, 02:02:57 PM
You really are a pussy.Proof that Obama and the rest of the libs goes right after half wits like you.Booo hooo,Billy is a an idiot.What a fucking pussy.Id beat your fucking ass face to face.Just another example of an internet #### with computer muscles.PUSSY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Aren't you over the age of 40? Methinks it's time to grow up, Peter Pan.

You do the GOP a great service by showing your immaturity, by the way.  :D
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: BM OUT on May 28, 2009, 02:24:55 PM
Um . . . pot . . . kettle . . . .

Here is the differance idiot.My name is everywhere all over the internet.Articles on me and by me.You know who Iam.Thats the opposite of a pussy.I post with my real name,Im not hard to find.You people post with your pussy fake names because you know if someone like me knew where you lived I might show up and beat the snot out of you.

Im on the internet posting that UNDER MY REAL NAME!!!!YOU PEOPLE HIDE BEHIND YOUR FAKE INTERNET NAMES.thats pussy!!!
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: Dos Equis on May 28, 2009, 02:27:25 PM
Here is the differance idiot.My name is everywhere all over the internet.Articles on me and by me.You know who Iam.Thats the opposite of a pussy.I post with my real name,Im not hard to find.You people post with your pussy fake names because you know if someone like me knew where you lived I might show up and beat the snot out of you.

Im on the internet posting that UNDER MY REAL NAME!!!!YOU PEOPLE HIDE BEHIND YOUR FAKE INTERNET NAMES.thats pussy!!!

Dude . . . lol.  I think you intended that for tu holmes.   :)
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: Hugo Chavez on May 28, 2009, 03:09:30 PM
Here is the differance idiot.My name is everywhere all over the internet.Articles on me and by me.You know who Iam.Thats the opposite of a pussy.I post with my real name,Im not hard to find.You people post with your pussy fake names because you know if someone like me knew where you lived I might show up and beat the snot out of you.

Im on the internet posting that UNDER MY REAL NAME!!!!YOU PEOPLE HIDE BEHIND YOUR FAKE INTERNET NAMES.thats pussy!!!
I'm not sure that's the smartest thing to do for everyone.  I respect what you're saying but you never know what some psychotard will do.  If it's only you that you have to worry about, that's one thing, but exposing your family and everything might not be the brightest thing for some people.  I'm just saying there are a lot of reasons to go under fake name that aren't necessarily chickenshit.  How many here have had to deal with harassing and bullshit phone calls made to their family, relatives, work etc...  And that's the least, I hate to think what some insane idiot would do with a vendetta because he hates your politics.  And like I said, it's one thing to have a face to face, but that's not realistic for cowards and you expose your family to any number of possibilities which isn't fair to them.
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: tu_holmes on May 28, 2009, 03:16:31 PM
Dude . . . lol.  I think you intended that for tu holmes.   :)

He did... The worst part about his tirade is that he's just incorrect.  Tu Holmes IS my real name.
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: Dos Equis on May 28, 2009, 03:23:55 PM
He did... The worst part about his tirade is that he's just incorrect.  Tu Holmes IS my real name.


Maybe it's time for people to step back, take a deep breath, and remember that this is only the internet.  Stella posted a poll about this a little while back. 
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: tu_holmes on May 28, 2009, 03:48:29 PM
Maybe it's time for people to step back, take a deep breath, and remember that this is only the internet.  Stella posted a poll about this a little while back. 

You are correct.
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: OzmO on May 28, 2009, 04:11:56 PM
Meltdowns...........lol
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: Deicide on May 28, 2009, 04:28:39 PM
Meltdowns...........lol

All genetics
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: Fury on May 28, 2009, 04:32:25 PM
Yes, it is essential that clowns like HugoChavez123 stay incognito. There are many people who can be affected by the outing of an unemployed former porn photographer who wakes up at 4 pm every day!
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: OzmO on May 28, 2009, 04:33:16 PM
He did... The worst part about his tirade is that he's just incorrect.  Tu Holmes IS my real name.


Wow, Cool name Tu.   :)
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: Fury on May 28, 2009, 04:36:37 PM
He did... The worst part about his tirade is that he's just incorrect.  Tu Holmes IS my real name.


Tuco, is that you?

(http://www.1to10reviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/tuco-7633329.jpg)
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: OzmO on May 28, 2009, 04:37:14 PM
Actually, I wonder why anyone would view posting on forums with your real name as anything significant to the point where they would call someone a pussy for using a nick name.  

Its a forum people.  Who the hell cares?  

Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: tu_holmes on May 28, 2009, 04:42:22 PM
Tuco, is that you?

(http://www.1to10reviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/tuco-7633329.jpg)

I'm not quite that bad ass, but I do have the facial hair.

Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: Dos Equis on May 28, 2009, 04:46:42 PM
I'm not quite that bad ass, but I do have the facial hair.



That guy isn't tough at all.  He's a lying coward.  "Blondie" is the tough one.   :)  (I just watched this movie the other day.) 
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: tu_holmes on May 28, 2009, 04:48:31 PM
That guy isn't tough at all.  He's a lying coward.  "Blondie" is the tough one.   :)  (I just watched this movie the other day.) 

Haha... Either way, I'm not bad ass.
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: Dos Equis on May 28, 2009, 04:52:09 PM
Haha... Either way, I'm not bad ass.

Me either.  But what would you expect?  I live in a house full of females. 
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: tu_holmes on May 28, 2009, 04:52:43 PM
Me either.  But what would you expect?  I live in a house full of females. 

I don't know how you do it. I'd go insane.
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: Dos Equis on May 28, 2009, 05:00:26 PM
I don't know how you do it. I'd go insane.

It can be tough, especially when they move your stuff, eat your food, and use your bathroom (only the wife does that). 
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: tu_holmes on May 28, 2009, 05:03:19 PM
It can be tough, especially when they move your stuff, eat your food, and use your bathroom (only the wife does that). 

They must go through a lot of toilet paper... I lived in a Sorority house once for a year and those girls went through TP like it was some kind of medicine.
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: Dos Equis on May 28, 2009, 05:09:54 PM
They must go through a lot of toilet paper... I lived in a Sorority house once for a year and those girls went through TP like it was some kind of medicine.

I don't know.  I don't buy it.  All I care about is that it's on the roll when I need it.   :)

Why did you live in a sorority house? 
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: tu_holmes on May 28, 2009, 05:18:11 PM
I don't know.  I don't buy it.  All I care about is that it's on the roll when I need it.   :)

Why did you live in a sorority house? 
I was still in college, but was working at Bell Labs, so I was doing ok.

Newer chapter of a Sorority didn't have a lot of historical graduates to pay for the house completely, so they needed someone to live in the bedroom in the back... I had my own bathroom and all, so it wasn't an issue.

The girls were cool and all, but they were always begging me for TP from my stash.
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: Dos Equis on May 28, 2009, 05:24:53 PM
I was still in college, but was working at Bell Labs, so I was doing ok.

Newer chapter of a Sorority didn't have a lot of historical graduates to pay for the house completely, so they needed someone to live in the bedroom in the back... I had my own bathroom and all, so it wasn't an issue.

The girls were cool and all, but they were always begging me for TP from my stash.

Tough assignment.  :)
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: tu_holmes on May 28, 2009, 09:33:23 PM
Tough assignment.  :)

It was a great year. ;D
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: 24KT on May 28, 2009, 09:53:30 PM

Can anyone really say McCain would be doing anything that much different than Obama on most issues?


I think things would have been infinitely worse under McCain. He probably would have had a Billly Mimnaugh style meltown on any number of world leaders by now... possibly had a stroke while threatening to kick someone's ass.


...and I can just imagine how he'd be refering to the Chinese premier or the Koreans right now.   :o
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: 24KT on May 28, 2009, 09:58:45 PM
It was a great year. ;D

{LOL} I can imagine!  ;D
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: BM OUT on May 29, 2009, 07:09:44 AM
Ok,I PROMISE to be more carefull.I will not meltdown or threaten anyone anymore.I'm dieting for a couple of shows [JUNE 6,JUNE 13]so I'm MUCH more apt to flip out.Perhaps I should avoid political forums.

Remember this,a lot of the rhetoric you see here is done to get a reaction or to combat someone trying to provoke a reaction.I always live my life to always go beyond what the next guy does to me.If you insult me or someone I like,I try to go the extra mile.I will be more carefull.
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: Deicide on May 29, 2009, 07:24:11 AM
Ok,I PROMISE to be more carefull.I will not meltdown or threaten anyone anymore.I'm dieting for a couple of shows [JUNE 6,JUNE 13]so I'm MUCH more apt to flip out.Perhaps I should avoid political forums.

Remember this,a lot of the rhetoric you see here is done to get a reaction or to combat someone trying to provoke a reaction.I always live my life to always go beyond what the next guy does to me.If you insult me or someone I like,I try to go the extra mile.I will be more carefull.

You are a great spokesman for neo-conservatives. :)
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: BM OUT on May 29, 2009, 07:26:48 AM
You are a great spokesman for neo-conservatives. :)

Im not a neo con.Im a registered libertarian.I supported Ron Paul with my money and voted Libertarian line, except for president which I left blank.I will again support the libertarian candidate UNLESS Ron Paul runs as a Republican.

However,if your asking who is worse,neo cons or liberals.Its not even close.Liberal are the enemy of the country.
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: Deicide on May 29, 2009, 07:29:10 AM
Im not a neo con.Im a registered libertarian.I supported Ron Paul with my money and voted Libertarian line, except for president which I left blank.I will again support the libertarian candidate UNLESS Ron Paul runs as a Republican.

However,if your asking who is worse,neo cons or liberals.Its not even close.Liberal are the enemy of the country.

 :o

You don't sound ANYTHING like a RP supporter... :-\
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: BM OUT on May 29, 2009, 07:32:25 AM
:o

You don't sound ANYTHING like a RP supporter... :-\

Really?Smaller government,lower taxes,bring our troops home from everywhere,get rid of MANY departments.Again,I put my money where my mouth is,I dont just post that I support him,I help fund his campaign.
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 29, 2009, 07:35:51 AM
Really?Smaller government,lower taxes,bring our troops home from everywhere,get rid of MANY departments.Again,I put my money where my mouth is,I dont just post that I support him,I help fund his campaign.

I hope Schiff runs for Senate in CT. 
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: Deicide on May 29, 2009, 07:45:39 AM
Really?Smaller government,lower taxes,bring our troops home from everywhere,get rid of MANY departments.Again,I put my money where my mouth is,I dont just post that I support him,I help fund his campaign.

Hmm...that's sounds more like it...

Personally I think we have a one party system so it doesn't much make a difference if left or right=same shit.
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: 240 is Back on May 29, 2009, 08:48:17 AM
i've never heard a RP supporter threaten to rip the arms off a message board combatant then have sex with the gaping wounds.








*cue BILLY to threaten to rip the arms off a message board combatant then have sex with the gaping wounds.
Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: BM OUT on May 29, 2009, 10:28:42 AM
i've never heard a RP supporter threaten to rip the arms off a message board combatant then have sex with the gaping wounds.


So let me get this straight.Because I support Ron Paul as a political person,I should take on his persona and personality or that of his supporters.That makes a lot of sense.Im sure I believe and say lots of things his supporters dont.







*cue BILLY to threaten to rip the arms off a message board combatant then have sex with the gaping wounds.

Title: Re: This is why the Republican Party will continue to fail...
Post by: IFBBwannaB on May 29, 2009, 03:53:17 PM
I heard McCain is preparing an anti MLM legislation, true story!

I can understand him though, no one likes a scamming hustler.

http://www.mlm-thetruth.com/5RedFlags-summary.htm