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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Balloon on May 29, 2009, 04:16:19 PM
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The only pics of this guy I've seen are of a 280lb bulky dude.
has he ever been lean?
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who cares, he's a HUGE STRONG motherfuccker, leave the lean ripped 145 pounds bullshit to the twinks.
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Permabulker. All the way permabulker!
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pic?
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pic?
they're around somewhere, huge thick bastard, not shredded but not fat either.
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they're around somewhere, huge thick bastard, not shredded but not really fucking fat either.
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He carries an awful lot of fat from all the pics i've seen,
I know he preaches massive overeating
I'm wondering what type of muscle is really hiding under all that blubber/flubber
Looks unhealthy with a real high blood pressure
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offseason, clearly offseason
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looks like a strong mofo
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For a guy who pioneers a training method,
He looks like John Candy after a week of Vegas Buffet food
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looks like a strong fat mofo
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Looks like he diets on Wavelength's famous "Austrian Pastries"
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He carries an awful lot of fat from all the pics i've seen,
I know he preaches massive overeating
I'm wondering what type of muscle is really hiding under all that blubber/flubber
Looks unhealthy with a real high blood pressure
look at how small relative to his chest and shoulders his waist is in that first shot, that is a HUGE bastard, BLUBBER/FLUBBER doesn't incline 405 for reps on the smith and hack squat 7-8 plates per side like he does
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Look at Dave defending a fellow fatass/permabulker. ;D
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Look at Dave defending a fellow fatass/permabulker. ;D
the guy has more muscle in one of his arms than you have on your whole body.
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Looks like he diets on Wavelength's famous "Austrian Pastries"
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the guy has more muscle fat in one of his arms than you have on your whole body.
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I'm not his biggest fan but he isn't really what i consider fat. You make it sound like he's sat next to Jonensy.
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I'm not his biggest fan but he isn't really what i consider fat. You make it sound like he's sat next to Jonensy.
Nobody's in Fat Keith's league, but there's no question Dante is obese.
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Looks like Palumboism to me ;D
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yes he has. i've seen a diet article by him and he was effing SHREDDED.
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This isn't bodybuilding
It's a naturally stocky guy atleast 60lb overweight
He's incredibly bloated and has awful bacne
He doesn't even resemble a bodybuilder
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Where's your picture, stud?
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Dante is a guy that was born with the physique of a long distance runner and forced it into the realm of freaks.
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hahahaha, i love when someone is a huge muscular guy and in an attempt to prove how "ugly' their physique is they post pictures of some of the most symmetrical bodybuilders who have ever lived to compare to, "this isn't muscle, a 1999 Ronnie Coleman is muscle" ::)
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Dante Dave Palumbo is a guy that was born with the physique of a long distance runner and forced it into the realm of freaks.
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i'm sorry but ANYONE saying that this guy is "fat" is high as a kite.
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I'm not his biggest fan but he isn't really what i consider fat. You make it sound like he's sat next to Jonensy.
check your spelling mass 04?
It's jonsey :)
Dante would be a skinny 200 lbs if he tried to get into contest condition
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check your spelling mass 04?
It's jonsey :)
Dante would be a skinny 200 lbs if he tried to get into contest condition
my bad ;D
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I don't think I've ever seen a pic of him lean let alone ripped. But I don't think that's his thing. He never had any aspirations to be a competitive bodybuilder and just seems to want to get big and strong. So what's the problem? He seems like a decent enough guy. Just because he's not into whatever you're into he's not bothering anybody. Just let him do his thing and criticize someone else.
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check your spelling mass 04?
It's jonsey :)
Dante would be a skinny 200 lbs if he tried to get into contest condition
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This isn't bodybuilding
It's a naturally stocky guy atleast 60lb overweight
He's incredibly bloated and has awful bacne
He doesn't even resemble a bodybuilder
That French guy with a tan looks a little better ;D
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::)
You think he would look like kevin levrone on stage or something?
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You think he would look like kevin levrone on stage or something?
no but he'd be bigger than 200 pounds gauranteed.
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How can this guy's ego handle all that bodyfat? What if someone calls him fat or *gasp* ugly? He'll be devastated!
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Check out how vascular his arms look even in the offseason!
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the funniest thing is all you guys comparing him to Kevin Levrone or Serge Nubret in an attempt to make him look bad are all proving how good he looks.
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FAT dude ;D
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always, always been extremely obese and bloated. takes a lot of AAS and steals other's ideas and tries to pass it off as his own.
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the funniest thing is all you guys comparing him to Kevin Levrone or Serge Nubret in an attempt to make him look bad are all proving how good he looks.
exactly. apparently the only people he can be compared to are the best of all time. that's like seeing a guy bench 680 raw and going "pff that's nothing, scot mendelson did 715 ::) "
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:D ;D
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Is that Tony Soprano?
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exactly. apparently the only people he can be compared to are the best of all time. that's like seeing a guy bench 680 raw and going "pff that's nothing, scot mendelson did 715 ::) "
It's all about what you prefer to see concerning bench press.
Reps, I'd go with James Henderson.....that one big rep I'd probably choose Scot Mendelson
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He just a fat kid. 8)
this "kid" has been lifting weights since you were still swimming in your dad's sack ;D
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It's all about what you prefer to see concerning bench press.
Reps, I'd go with James Henderson.....that one big rep I'd probably choose Scot Mendelson
actually i'm not sure. keep in mind, henderson had the record at about 710 before mendy took it and it was a legit full pause and everything. in his prime henderson was an absolute monster.
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Thanks for displaying your mastery of the English language and your great comprehension skills. ::)
LOL it's pretty true, likely he knows a little bit more man.
But fuck me Dave does like to defending anyone and everyone over 10% bodyfat "HAY THAT GUY IZ JUST BIG N STRONG"
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But fuck me Dave does like to defending anyone and everyone over 10% 30% bodyfat "HAY THAT GUY IZ JUST BIG N STRONG"
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Is it in the rule book that permabulkers must always defend each other?
Seems that way.
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didn't dogcack and sarc have some beef and dc was calling dave a shut-in and loser?
sure i remember that
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He's a pretty big guy. His training ideals are very good.
He could be a little leaner but if he's happy who gives a fuck. Overeating is crazy anyway it makes no difference eating all that excess protein except getting you fat.
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didn't dogcack and sarc have some beef and dc was calling dave a shut-in and loser?
sure i remember that
Yes, but Dave is a pussy now and kisses major ass..
just make sure to rinse your ground beef and drink your olive oil kiddies...
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He's a pretty big guy. His training ideals are very good.
He could be a little leaner but if he's happy who gives a fuck. Overeating is crazy anyway it makes no difference eating all that excess protein except getting you fat.
Exactly. Many of these guys overeat with the rationale that its necessary to gain size...but all it really does is pile on fat. It's very possible to achieve great gains by eating clean and upping the weight each workout.
"Bulking" is nothing but an excuse to be sloppy with one's diet.
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Dante is just like Trevor Smith in alot of ways.If you guys dont know Trevor Smith was the biggest bodybuilder who ever lived, he owned Nuclear Nutrition.He was a whopping 432 lbs at one point.Trevor was the reason Jay looked good at the Mr O , in 2001, and the reason Matt Duvall won Nationals.
Dante, like Trevor, created his own training methods Dogg Crapp.
Which has helped alot of athlete such as DAVID Henry take there physique to the next level.
I know alot of guys Dante has helped out and since they been working with Dante they physique is constantly improving
.Dante is a really big, guy, who is very succesful and lives life on his terms.He doesnt need to get lean for anybody or to impress anyone.
Dante's company trueprotein.com is one of the best manufactures in the industry.
So Dante is pretty much a guru, who like Trevor Smith.
Dante isnt like Chad or Hany, who walk around like they are gods and brag and boast.He was like Trevor, more quiet and reserved.He let his actions and knowledge speak for itself.
I would rather take advice from Dante, then any of these so called gurus, who weigh 175lbs, and never stepped on a stage.Yet these pro bodybuilders listen to there advice.It boggles me.
I know Dante, he is one of my allies in the industry, and you couldnt ask for a more honest and knowledeable guy.
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Huge guy.
Looks to be doing allright for himself, too. That's a Lexus RX and a Mercedes CLS in his garage.
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Trevor Smith seemed to be a bit of an attention seeker. He was a very big guy but too fat.
The guy could have looked huge at 350 pounds which would be 80 pounds of shit off his body. He was a long long way from bodybuilding condition.
I used to think size ruled all but being in condition is so much more impressive, there is no way holding excess BF makes you look any better.
Dante has more than enough size if he just cut down the excess eating (assuming what is said on here is real) and dropped 30 pounds he would look far more impressive. He already has plenty of size and quality and to be honest could push his gains harder dropping the weight then using the push off the diet.
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Dante is just like Trevor Smith in alot of ways.If you guys dont know Trevor Smith was the biggest bodybuilder who ever lived, he owned Nuclear Nutrition.He was a whopping 432 lbs at one point.Trevor was the reason Jay looked good at the Mr O , in 2001, and the reason Matt Duvall won Nationals.
Dante, like Trevor, created his own training methods Dogg Crapp.
Which has helped alot of athlete such as DAVID Henry take there physique to the next level.
I know alot of guys Dante has helped out and since they been working with Dante they physique is constantly improving
.Dante is a really big, guy, who is very succesful and lives life on his terms.He doesnt need to get lean for anybody or to impress anyone.
Dante's company trueprotein.com is one of the best manufactures in the industry.
So Dante is pretty much a guru, who like Trevor Smith.
Dante isnt like Chad or Hany, who walk around like they are gods and brag and boast.He was like Trevor, more quiet and reserved.He let his actions and knowledge speak for itself.
I would rather take advice from Dante, then any of these so called gurus, who weigh 175lbs, and never stepped on a stage.Yet these pro bodybuilders listen to there advice.It boggles me.
I know Dante, he is one of my allies in the industry, and you couldnt ask for a more honest and knowledeable guy.
Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Matt Duvall prepped by Chad for the Nationals? If Trevor was so great what did he need Chad for?
I'm also pretty sure Jay had Aceto as prep adviser for the 2001 Olympia.
So who's responsible for what?
Dante himself says he leaves contest prep advice to others who are more qualified and his athletes use some of these gurus too.
You may or may not have a point about the gurus but you don't have your facts straight as usual.
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As far as seeing Dante lean it would be interesting seeing him compete and where he ended up at. Would be cool seeing him compete against his old buddy Arvilla who also was a huge mofo at 3 bills if I'm not mistaken.
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A phat phuck for sure. Thin the herd!
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A phat phuck for sure. Thin the herd!
Off to Ze Fatcentration Camps with him!
His lack of willpower sickens me! >:(
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Alot of people buying his protein.
Business is good for the man.
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Listen, Van, Trust me when I tell you Matt Duvall was training under Trevor Smith BFT training system when he won nationals.
Matt Lived with Trevor and his wife Nancy when he lived in Vegas.
If you get a chance ask Matt Duvall about BFT, he swears by it.
As far as Jay goes, Trevor helped Jay, in ways, I am not going to say on this board.
Jay and Trevor Smith were good friends.Jay was even on the cover of Trevor Smiths Magazine Gear URZ.I actualy have the issue at my house.
The pics and interview were taken right after Jay won the Arnold.
I cant beleive I have to argue with a man who looks this horrible.
This is an actual picture of Vanbilderass everyone.Van you are truly a fuckin retard.
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i'm sorry but ANYONE saying that this guy is "fat" is high as a kite.
Nothing against Dante but he is fat in that picture. If your skin folds over, anywhere, you are fat.
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Trevor Smith seemed to be a bit of an attention seeker. He was a very big guy but too fat.
The guy could have looked huge at 350 pounds which would be 80 pounds of shit off his body. He was a long long way from bodybuilding condition.
I used to think size ruled all but being in condition is so much more impressive, there is no way holding excess BF makes you look any better.
Dante has more than enough size if he just cut down the excess eating (assuming what is said on here is real) and dropped 30 pounds he would look far more impressive. He already has plenty of size and quality and to be honest could push his gains harder dropping the weight then using the push off the diet.
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Listen, Van, Trust me when I tell you Matt Duvall was training under Trevor Smith BFT training system when he won nationals.
Matt Lived with Trevor and his wife Nancy when he lived in Vegas.
If you get a chance ask Matt Duvall about BFT, he swears by it.
As far as Jay goes, Trevor helped Jay, in ways, I am not going to say on this board.
Jay and Trevor Smith were good friends.Jay was even on the cover of Trevor Smiths Magazine Gear URZ.I actualy have the issue at my house.
The pics and interview were taken right after Jay won the Arnold.
I cant beleive I have to argue with a man who looks this horrible.
This is an actual picture of Vanbilderass everyone.Van you are truly a fuckin retard.
Holy shit!
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Listen, Van, Trust me when I tell you Matt Duvall was training under Trevor Smith BFT training system when he won nationals.
Matt Lived with Trevor and his wife Nancy when he lived in Vegas.
If you get a chance ask Matt Duvall about BFT, he swears by it.
As far as Jay goes, Trevor helped Jay, in ways, I am not going to say on this board.
Jay and Trevor Smith were good friends.Jay was even on the cover of Trevor Smiths Magazine Gear URZ.I actualy have the issue at my house.
The pics and interview were taken right after Jay won the Arnold.
I cant beleive I have to argue with a man who looks this horrible.
This is an actual picture of Vanbilderass everyone.Van you are truly a fuckin retard.
I'm not saying they weren't associated in various ways. The fact is they sought further help on top of this. They worked with these guru morons for these shows. Fact. So again, who is responsible for what?
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=283353.0;attach=323556;image)
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are you kidding me? say it aint so ;D
Dude is that you?
that's him. k23 has more pics
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Yes this is a pic of Vanbilerass.The guy is a bitter complete idiot.
Trevor Smith was THE GURU when it came to anabolics.Trust me, on this .
His BFT training and knowledge of steroids was off the charts.Trevor Smith was basically a 432lb Dan Duchaine.
Van, does you boyfriend can you sweet tits, lol
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How did the topic get changed from Dante being a fatass?
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Yes this is a pic of Vanbilerass.The guy is a bitter complete idiot.
Trevor Smith was THE GURU when it came to anabolics.Trust me, on this .
His BFT training and knowledge of steroids was off the charts.Trevor Smith was basically a 432lb Dan Duchaine.
Van, does you boyfriend can you sweet tits, lol
Seriously - holy shit
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Yes this is a pic of Vanbilerass.The guy is a bitter complete idiot.
Trevor Smith was THE GURU when it came to anabolics.Trust me, on this .
His BFT training and knowledge of steroids was off the charts.Trevor Smith was basically a 432lb Dan Duchaine.
Van, does you boyfriend can you sweet tits, lol
What did Duvall need Chad for then? Please explain this to me. He already trained with, and was advised on all aspects by Trevor, THE guru.
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Plus not only was Trevor Smith big, he was bad as fu#$3
He was a very very good in martial arts.He showed me vidoes of his fights, and my god he was good.He used to grapple at 260lbs.Not only was the guy, big, he was strong, and he could kill you, in a milli-second.
Trevor got alot of his discpline for his training through martial arts.
Trust me, if you messed with Trevor the fight would last all but 10 seconds
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I think Chad did Matt Duvalls diet for Nationals.Chad is known for his diets, and his special liquid diuretic he makes you drink in front of him the day before the show
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I think Chad did Matt Duvalls diet for Nationals.Chad is known for his diets, and his special liquid diuretic he makes you drink in front of him the day before the show
Bad decision on Matt's part. Chad never stepped on stage so what could he possibly know about diets or diuretics? I'm sure Trevor could have written down a better diuretic schedule as well, or even manufacture a better version of the secret diuretic.
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I think Chad did Matt Duvalls diet for Nationals.Chad is known for his diets, and his special liquid diuretic he makes you drink in front of him the day before the show
a mercurial based diuretic that was pulled from the market many moons ago..Supposedly it caused organ failure it
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a mercurial based diuretic that was pulled from the market many moons ago..Supposedly it caused organ failure it
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All that mattered is Matt Duvall won Nationals that year, and got his pro card.I think Chad might have done his diet, but I know Matt took alot advice from Trevor.I know he was using the BFT, training, and was probably following Trvors Advice about anabolics.Trevor was one of the most knowledgeable people I know when it came to steroid, and steroid cycles.
As for Chad, his diuretic I heard works amazing.The problem is nobody knows what is in it, because he makes his athletes drink it in front of him.If they dont drink it in front of him he wont let them have it.Its supposed to be very strong and works amazing.
Now about Dante.I think Dante is taking over were Trevor left off.His training system may be diffrent but seems to give bodybuilders amazinf results.
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Dante is just like Trevor Smith in alot of ways.If you guys dont know Trevor Smith was the biggest bodybuilder who ever lived, he owned Nuclear Nutrition.He was a whopping 432 lbs at one point.Trevor was the reason Jay looked good at the Mr O , in 2001, and the reason Matt Duvall won Nationals.
Dante, like Trevor, created his own training methods Dogg Crapp.
Which has helped alot of athlete such as DAVID Henry take there physique to the next level.
I know alot of guys Dante has helped out and since they been working with Dante they physique is constantly improving
.Dante is a really big, guy, who is very succesful and lives life on his terms.He doesnt need to get lean for anybody or to impress anyone.
Dante's company trueprotein.com is one of the best manufactures in the industry.
So Dante is pretty much a guru, who like Trevor Smith.
Dante isnt like Chad or Hany, who walk around like they are gods and brag and boast.He was like Trevor, more quiet and reserved.He let his actions and knowledge speak for itself.
I would rather take advice from Dante, then any of these so called gurus, who weigh 175lbs, and never stepped on a stage.Yet these pro bodybuilders listen to there advice.It boggles me.
I know Dante, he is one of my allies in the industry, and you couldnt ask for a more honest and knowledeable guy.
When have you seen Chad walking around and boasting. The guy seems pretty quiet and reserved everytime i have seen him.
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It's a naturally stocky guy atleast 60lb overweight
thanks for the email + link (I guess) Strongman
IM still laughing at this one. Naturally stocky guy? Do you call 6'1" 137 pounds at 20 years old naturally stocky? When are you guys going to figure out that the last thing in the world that would upset me is being called fat? I was so painfully skinny for all my teenage years and early 20's that if someone said I looked skinny it probably would hurt (but i doubt it) Its like telling some girl who was obese all during her teens and early 20's that she is too skinny now....do you really think that would bug her? LOL. Do you ever wonder why I've never posted those pics of me at 252-258 pounds (5 weeks out) the 2 times i dieted down for shows? Because honestly I cant do it....I think i look thin and I dont like the look
Here is the bottom line how i think.....
1) I could care less what anyone on Getbig thinks of me.....I dont go by your ideal......I do my own thing. I went way way way way past what I thought i could achieve with the genetic hand that was given to me. I wanted to see how big and strong I could get and I did just that. Compete? For what? Competing is for people with good genetics who arent 137 pounds when they started out and it takes them 2 backbreaking years of training and eating just to look "normal" at 190 pounds.....LOL. Im a realist....what am I going to try for a pro card? No i dont have those kinds of genetics...so I dont really care. I have exceeded my expectations for myself 1000 times over. Went to 300, walked around for the last 15 years as a big MF with 20 plus inch arms....those were my goals and i did it....IM satisfied. I know how to put size on people and thats what I do.
2) Or the opposite of that is I could have been Goatboy, on getbig.com for the last 8 years and never been able to post a pic.....why? Because he would be ruined/wouldnt be able to post anymore. Thats got to suck....visual sport....nothing puts people in their place more than clicking that attachement and going Blam! in your face.....yet here he is and others like him....8 years later, all the dieting advice he gives out, his elitist opinions, and he has nothing to back up what he so strongly talks about......read into that as you will......its not very hard to figure out. Its simple....again he would be ruined.
So let me think for a sec.....if you are ripped year round on getbig you are small and if you are big year round on getbig your fat.....and 50 guys on this thread want me to grasp their ideals
Naaa Im going to keep doing my own thing....Im happy thanks
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Good post Trevor
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I was so painfully skinny for all my teenage years and early 20's that if someone said I looked skinny it probably would hurt
Oh cry me a fucking river.... ::)
You don't think we ALL didn't have trials and hardships growing up??
Honestly bro, getbig.com doesn't need your sob stories.
I am happy for your personal bodybuilding successes however, and I ordered a 40 whey 40 waxy maize and 30 casein Chocolate which I plan to re-up when I run out of it in a couple weeks. Keep up the great work with your company, your products are top notch.
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doggcrap do you have any advice for lagging calves??
thanks bro
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I could care less what anyone on Getbig thinks of me
I think you are a solid guy and built like a tank, but please don't post a 3000 word denial on Getbig about how you don't care what Getbig thinks of you - it kinda defeats the purpose ;D
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I think you are a solid guy and built like a tank, but please don't post a 3000 word denial on Getbig about how you don't care what Getbig thinks of you - it kinda defeats the purpose ;D
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That was one of the most Awesome posts ever made on GETBIG! NICE DANTE!!!
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All that mattered is Matt Duvall won Nationals that year, and got his pro card.I think Chad might have done his diet, but I know Matt took alot advice from Trevor.I know he was using the BFT, training, and was probably following Trvors Advice about anabolics.Trevor was one of the most knowledgeable people I know when it came to steroid, and steroid cycles.
As for Chad, his diuretic I heard works amazing.The problem is nobody knows what is in it, because he makes his athletes drink it in front of him.If they dont drink it in front of him he wont let them have it.Its supposed to be very strong and works amazing.
Now about Dante.I think Dante is taking over were Trevor left off.His training system may be diffrent but seems to give bodybuilders amazinf results.
everyone already knows Chad's secret is a mercurial based diuretic that was pulled from the market many moons ago..
a simple Google search will tell you what it is GetitintheasrseNY. You know jack shit about anything..I surprised your daddy helped you open a nutritional shop..oh ya, an that locket guy you sponsored is natural and paid dividends.
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Oh cry me a fucking river.... ::)
You don't think we ALL didn't have trials and hardships growing up??
Honestly bro, getbig.com doesn't need your sob stories.
I am happy for your personal bodybuilding successes however, and I ordered a 40 whey 40 waxy maize and 30 casein Chocolate which I plan to re-up when I run out of it in a couple weeks. Keep up the great work with your company, your products are top notch.
I think you missed his point. He was described as a stocky guy as if he he had a predisposition to being big. He's simply saying that he was a tall, skinny guy. That was his natural frame. He was able to build it up beyond what he thought he could given his genetics. He did it with single minded discipline including eating, proper rest, intense training and he's made no secret that he used AAS.
He seems like a good, and more importantly, honorable man. You can agree or disagree with his training methodology or like or dislike his type of physique but he's made a success in life. He's not bothering anybody or imposing his philosophy or body type on anyone. Do what you want. That's what he's doing. I don't understand the hate.
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everyone already knows Chad's secret is a mercurial based diuretic that was pulled from the market many moons ago..
a simple Google search will tell you what it is GetitintheasrseNY. You know jack shit about anything..I surprised your daddy helped you open a nutritional shop..oh ya, an that locket guy you sponsored is natural and paid dividends.
He knows Lockett isn't natural but saying it doesn't help his business
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thanks for the email + link (I guess) Strongman
IM still laughing at this one. Naturally stocky guy? Do you call 6'1" 137 pounds at 20 years old naturally stocky? When are you guys going to figure out that the last thing in the world that would upset me is being called fat? I was so painfully skinny for all my teenage years and early 20's that if someone said I looked skinny it probably would hurt (but i doubt it) Its like telling some girl who was obese all during her teens and early 20's that she is too skinny now....do you really think that would bug her? LOL. Do you ever wonder why I've never posted those pics of me at 252-258 pounds (5 weeks out) the 2 times i dieted down for shows? Because honestly I cant do it....I think i look thin and I dont like the look
Here is the bottom line how i think.....
1) I could care less what anyone on Getbig thinks of me.....I dont go by your ideal......I do my own thing. I went way way way way past what I thought i could achieve with the genetic hand that was given to me. I wanted to see how big and strong I could get and I did just that. Compete? For what? Competing is for people with good genetics who arent 137 pounds when they started out and it takes them 2 backbreaking years of training and eating just to look "normal" at 190 pounds.....LOL. Im a realist....what am I going to try for a pro card? No i dont have those kinds of genetics...so I dont really care. I have exceeded my expectations for myself 1000 times over. Went to 300, walked around for the last 15 years as a big MF with 20 plus inch arms....those were my goals and i did it....IM satisfied. I know how to put size on people and thats what I do.
2) Or the opposite of that is I could have been Goatboy, on getbig.com for the last 8 years and never been able to post a pic.....why? Because he would be ruined/wouldnt be able to post anymore. Thats got to suck....visual sport....nothing puts people in their place more than clicking that attachement and going Blam! in your face.....yet here he is and others like him....8 years later, all the dieting advice he gives out, his elitist opinions, and he has nothing to back up what he so strongly talks about......read into that as you will......its not very hard to figure out. Its simple....again he would be ruined.
So let me think for a sec.....if you are ripped year round on getbig you are small and if you are big year round on getbig your fat.....and 50 guys on this thread want me to grasp their ideals
Naaa Im going to keep doing my own thing....Im happy thanks
Nothing says " I dont care" like a nice little 500 word essay ;)
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I think you missed his point. He was described as a stocky guy as if he he had a predisposition to being big. He's simply saying that he was a tall, skinny guy. That was his natural frame. He was able to build it up beyond what he thought he could given his genetics. He did it with single minded discipline including eating, proper rest, intense training and he's made no secret that he used AAS.
He seems like a good, and more importantly, honorable man. You can agree or disagree with his training methodology or like or dislike his type of physique but he's made a success in life. He's not bothering anybody or imposing his philosophy or body type on anyone. Do what you want. That's what he's doing. I don't understand the hate.
WTF are you talking about??
I am one of the biggest Doggcrap fans on this site. I have enjoyed using his training methods; I respect the science and philosophy behind it and I use his product EVERY time I work out.
If you would have simply took the time and carefully read through all my previous posts over the past 8 or 9 months you would have become much better informed of this. Instead you produce the above post which makes you look foolish.
You really should read through what I said before posting such nonsense.
(And by the way, Dante is JACKED! No doubt about it, it's not what I would pursue as a personal goal but impressive nonetheless)
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Nothing says " I dont care" like a nice little 500 word essay ;)
not bad, i pasted that essay into a word document and it came out two 486 words..That almost two pages double spaced..
if he would have added the following sentence , "kiddies don't forget to drink your olive oil and rinse your ground beef thoroughly" it would have been five words on the dot ;D
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This is Deicide:
No it was not and
You have HORRIBLE face genetics. :-X :-X :-X :-X :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :o :-X :-\ :-\ :'( :-X :'( :o :-X :'(
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/2008potomaccup/5.jpg)
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/510mostmuscular.jpg)
(http://www.all4humor.com/images/files/Horse%20showing%20Teeth.jpg)
(http://www.strawhatpizza.com/image/CharlieHorseWeb.jpg)
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(http://www.all4humor.com/images/files/Horse%20showing%20Teeth.jpg)
(http://www.strawhatpizza.com/image/CharlieHorseWeb.jpg)
LMAO, Leafy ;D
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big ach looking incredible
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This is Deicide:
No it was not and
You have HORRIBLE face genetics. :-X :-X :-X :-X :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :o :-X :-\ :-\ :'( :-X :'( :o :-X :'(
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/2008potomaccup/5.jpg)
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/510mostmuscular.jpg)
haha terrible genetics
he has compensated nicely with this bodybuilding thing and by the looks of him higher education and a good career
so fugly face etc. but has made up for it
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Maybe you should show us your face so we can find the matching animal, austrian stud. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I'm too scared ;D
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Wow strong teeth... why don't horse faces mofos with small teeth just brush that shit harder? I would scrap the fuck out of my gum lines if I had a retarded looking mouth like that lol... physique looking SICK though.
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Wow strong teeth... why don't horse faces mofos with small teeth just brush that shit harder? I would scrap the fuck out of my gum lines if I had a retarded looking mouth like that lol... physique looking SICK though.
theres easy corrective surgery done by dentists these days at a faily low cost
but then the teeth would still look weird with that sort of gum line
so many just stick with the gums in full force,,, Im glad I don't have to worry about that shit
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theres easy corrective surgery done by dentists these days at a faily low cost
but then the teeth would still look weird with that sort of gum line
so many just stick with the gums in full force,,, Im glad I don't have to worry about that shit
LOL that's too much gums... I'd just pay for the surgery or brush like I've smoked an 1/8th of meth and I'm trying to get the bugs out or some shit LOL
I had bad teeth growing up and I'm so thankful I was able to get braces. Took 33 months but it's incredible how life changing it can be. I'd kill myself if I had really bad teeth as an adult.
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thanks for the email + link (I guess) Strongman
IM still laughing at this one. Naturally stocky guy? Do you call 6'1" 137 pounds at 20 years old naturally stocky? When are you guys going to figure out that the last thing in the world that would upset me is being called fat? I was so painfully skinny for all my teenage years and early 20's that if someone said I looked skinny it probably would hurt (but i doubt it) Its like telling some girl who was obese all during her teens and early 20's that she is too skinny now....do you really think that would bug her? LOL. Do you ever wonder why I've never posted those pics of me at 252-258 pounds (5 weeks out) the 2 times i dieted down for shows? Because honestly I cant do it....I think i look thin and I dont like the look
Here is the bottom line how i think.....
1) I could care less what anyone on Getbig thinks of me.....I dont go by your ideal......I do my own thing. I went way way way way past what I thought i could achieve with the genetic hand that was given to me. I wanted to see how big and strong I could get and I did just that. Compete? For what? Competing is for people with good genetics who arent 137 pounds when they started out and it takes them 2 backbreaking years of training and eating just to look "normal" at 190 pounds.....LOL. Im a realist....what am I going to try for a pro card? No i dont have those kinds of genetics...so I dont really care. I have exceeded my expectations for myself 1000 times over. Went to 300, walked around for the last 15 years as a big MF with 20 plus inch arms....those were my goals and i did it....IM satisfied. I know how to put size on people and thats what I do.
2) Or the opposite of that is I could have been Goatboy, on getbig.com for the last 8 years and never been able to post a pic.....why? Because he would be ruined/wouldnt be able to post anymore. Thats got to suck....visual sport....nothing puts people in their place more than clicking that attachement and going Blam! in your face.....yet here he is and others like him....8 years later, all the dieting advice he gives out, his elitist opinions, and he has nothing to back up what he so strongly talks about......read into that as you will......its not very hard to figure out. Its simple....again he would be ruined.
So let me think for a sec.....if you are ripped year round on getbig you are small and if you are big year round on getbig your fat.....and 50 guys on this thread want me to grasp their ideals
Naaa Im going to keep doing my own thing....Im happy thanks
Nice post ;D.
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WTF are you talking about??
I am one of the biggest Doggcrap fans on this site. I have enjoyed using his training methods; I respect the science and philosophy behind it and I use his product EVERY time I work out.
If you would have simply took the time and carefully read through all my previous posts over the past 8 or 9 months you would have become much better informed of this. Instead you produce the above post which makes you look foolish.
You really should read through what I said before posting such nonsense.
(And by the way, Dante is JACKED! No doubt about it, it's not what I would pursue as a personal goal but impressive nonetheless)
I'll type slow so that maybe you can follow: You implied that Dante was being a cry baby and we all have to over come obstacles in life. I don't think that's what he meant. He was refuting a previous claim that someone made that he was a naturally stocky guy. Get it?
And it's true I haven't read all of your posts in the last 8-9 months to be "better informed." Nor do I intend to.
BTW, DC has been on my radar since reading his "Cycle for Pennies" when it first came out years ago on Animal's board. He always comes across as a very intelligent, humble and honorable man. I also agree with the principles of his training methods.
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This is Deicide:
No it was not and
You have HORRIBLE face genetics. :-X :-X :-X :-X :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :o :-X :-\ :-\ :'( :-X :'( :o :-X :'(
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/2008potomaccup/5.jpg)
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/510mostmuscular.jpg)
THAT IS AN INCREDIBLE NOSE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Have kids with this woman and you will have offspring like Pinocchio!!!!!!!!
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This is Deicide:
No it was not and
You have HORRIBLE face genetics. :-X :-X :-X :-X :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :o :-X :-\ :-\ :'( :-X :'( :o :-X :'(
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/2008potomaccup/5.jpg)
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/510mostmuscular.jpg)
This has to be photoshopped. No one would claim to be the person in these pics, not for any amount of money.
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This has to be photoshopped. No one would claim to be the person in these pics, not for any amount of money.
I agree
It could be a joke
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See boys, this is what happens when a Vulture f#cks a Horse.
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/510mostmuscular.jpg)(http://www.wordinfo.info/words/images/vulture-head.gif)(http://niceteeth.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/horse-teeth.jpg)
hahahaaa
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thanks for the email + link (I guess) Strongman
IM still laughing at this one. Naturally stocky guy? Do you call 6'1" 137 pounds at 20 years old naturally stocky? When are you guys going to figure out that the last thing in the world that would upset me is being called fat? I was so painfully skinny for all my teenage years and early 20's that if someone said I looked skinny it probably would hurt (but i doubt it) Its like telling some girl who was obese all during her teens and early 20's that she is too skinny now....do you really think that would bug her? LOL. Do you ever wonder why I've never posted those pics of me at 252-258 pounds (5 weeks out) the 2 times i dieted down for shows? Because honestly I cant do it....I think i look thin and I dont like the look
Here is the bottom line how i think.....
1) I could care less what anyone on Getbig thinks of me.....I dont go by your ideal......I do my own thing. I went way way way way past what I thought i could achieve with the genetic hand that was given to me. I wanted to see how big and strong I could get and I did just that. Compete? For what? Competing is for people with good genetics who arent 137 pounds when they started out and it takes them 2 backbreaking years of training and eating just to look "normal" at 190 pounds.....LOL. Im a realist....what am I going to try for a pro card? No i dont have those kinds of genetics...so I dont really care. I have exceeded my expectations for myself 1000 times over. Went to 300, walked around for the last 15 years as a big MF with 20 plus inch arms....those were my goals and i did it....IM satisfied. I know how to put size on people and thats what I do.
2) Or the opposite of that is I could have been Goatboy, on getbig.com for the last 8 years and never been able to post a pic.....why? Because he would be ruined/wouldnt be able to post anymore. Thats got to suck....visual sport....nothing puts people in their place more than clicking that attachement and going Blam! in your face.....yet here he is and others like him....8 years later, all the dieting advice he gives out, his elitist opinions, and he has nothing to back up what he so strongly talks about......read into that as you will......its not very hard to figure out. Its simple....again he would be ruined.
So let me think for a sec.....if you are ripped year round on getbig you are small and if you are big year round on getbig your fat.....and 50 guys on this thread want me to grasp their ideals
Naaa Im going to keep doing my own thing....Im happy thanks
This post clearly demonstrates that Getbig means nothing to you..
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For the last time.I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH MICHAEL LOCKETT!!!! MY COMPANY DOES NOT ENDORSRE HIM, AND WE WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH HIM.I DONT KNOW OR EVEN CARE IF HE IS NATURAL.I JUST HELPED THE GUY OUT A FEW TIMES, I WAS GOING TO SPONSOR HIM BUT I DIDNT.IM GLAD I DIDNT SPONSOR HIM TO TO HIS MENTAL INSTABILITY.PLEASE DONT PUT ME MY COMPANY ANF MICHAEL LOCKET IN THE SAME SENTNCE WE HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH EACH OTHER AND WE NEVER WILL.
As far Dante does he is smart.He is a big guy very knowledgeable but is very realistic.He knows he doesnt have the genetics to turn pro, so he builds his body for self satisfaction.He is smarter then me I got up to nearly 300lbs and competed at 260lbs and only made top 10 at Nationals.Why????? Because if I was smaret I would have realised I didnt have te genetics it takes to be a pro
Like a dumb ass I listened to all my friends, say your huge you can turn pro easy.
I have a huge heavy bone structure and the symtery of a brick, I could never turn pro or be a good pro.
Dante is a combination of Gerrard Dante , Trevor Smith,and myself.
Gerard could have turned pro, but instead opened MHP, and makes more money then any pro will ever make. Like Dante.
Dante is like Trevor Smith because he came out with a traning method like BFT, but diffrent and alot of peope are using it and getting great results.
Now what Dante and I both have in common is mutual respect for one another.We both have supplement companies, we both formulate products, and we are both are big men.Dante like I only carries the best raw materials and takes pride in every product he makes.His quality is beyond good.
Dante is a very honest man who tells it like it is.No games no nonsese.
When you deal with Dante what you see is what you get.He is the real deal.
He practices waht he preaches.I have respect for a man with his integrity
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Exactly. Many of these guys overeat with the rationale that its necessary to gain size...but all it really does is pile on fat. It's very possible to achieve great gains by eating clean and upping the weight each workout.
"Bulking" is nothing but an excuse to be sloppy with one's diet.
That rationale is correct. You don't get bigger UNLESS you consume more calories than you burn. That's basic common sense and biology.
Furthermore, your assumption that bulking up is an excuse to be sloppy is an erroneous one. Getting bigger is about increasing QUANTITY and quality.
Many people struggle to gain size, not because they aren't eating the right foods, but because they are eating ENOUGH of the right foods.
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not bad, i pasted that essay into a word document and it came out two 486 words..That almost two pages double spaced..
if he would have added the following sentence , "kiddies don't forget to drink your olive oil and rinse your ground beef thoroughly" it would have been five words on the dot ;D
;)
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For the last time.I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH MICHAEL LOCKETT!!!! MY COMPANY DOES NOT ENDORSRE HIM, AND WE WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH HIM.I DONT KNOW OR EVEN CARE IF HE IS NATURAL.I JUST HELPED THE GUY OUT A FEW TIMES, I WAS GOING TO SPONSOR HIM BUT I DIDNT.IM GLAD I DIDNT SPONSOR HIM TO TO HIS MENTAL INSTABILITY.PLEASE DONT PUT ME MY COMPANY ANF MICHAEL LOCKET IN THE SAME SENTNCE WE HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH EACH OTHER AND WE NEVER WILL.
As far Dante does he is smart.He is a big guy very knowledgeable but is very realistic.He knows he doesnt have the genetics to turn pro, so he builds his body for self satisfaction.He is smarter then me I got up to nearly 300lbs and competed at 260lbs and only made top 10 at Nationals.Why????? Because if I was smaret I would have realised I didnt have te genetics it takes to be a pro
Like a dumb ass I listened to all my friends, say your huge you can turn pro easy.
I have a huge heavy bone structure and the symtery of a brick, I could never turn pro or be a good pro.
Dante is a combination of Gerrard Dante , Trevor Smith,and myself.
Gerard could have turned pro, but instead opened MHP, and makes more money then any pro will ever make. Like Dante.
Dante is like Trevor Smith because he came out with a traning method like BFT, but diffrent and alot of peope are using it and getting great results.
Now what Dante and I both have in common is mutual respect for one another.We both have supplement companies, we both formulate products, and we are both are big men.Dante like I only carries the best raw materials and takes pride in every product he makes.His quality is beyond good.
Dante is a very honest man who tells it like it is.No games no nonsese.
When you deal with Dante what you see is what you get.He is the real deal.
He practices waht he preaches.I have respect for a man with his integrity
another meltdown. if your posts somehow fuse with dante's then we could end up creating a new universe
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another meltdown. if your posts somehow fuse with dante's then we could end up creating a new universe
lol great post as always ;D
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The only people who think this waterlogged pig is something to emulate are his moronic "doggcrapp" partisans, fat fucks or both.
Most normal people would look at this twat and not think "powerbuilder" but rather "heart attack".
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The only people who think this waterlogged pig is something to emulate are his moronic "doggcrapp" partisans, fat fucks or both.
Most normal people would look at this twat and not think "powerbuilder" but rather "heart attack".
hahaha, exactly, most would think, oh boy get the oxygen fatty will not make it 5 steps before collapsing.
Dead before his next Mcdonalds.
ta ta
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This has to be photoshopped. No one would claim to be the person in these pics, not for any amount of money.
How I became the main topic of this conversation is incredible to me!! LOL! Yes I do have a big nose, my mother has huge nose, and my father has an even BIGGER nose.... So the result equals my Arab schnoz, which puts some jewish ones to shame!
Thank god my wife has a tiny nose, maybe our kids stand a chance! Glad to see some of you approve of my bodybuilding genetics though!
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holy shit this can't be real is it? :o :-X
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holy shit this can't be real is it? :o :-X
Its real dawg. Thas me right after my show in 08, I weighed a whopping 160. Lightest i've ever competed!
I'm back up to about 210 now!
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More proof that its real!
Here is me again in 04 right after a show, I weighed 176 at that show
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/pizza.jpg)
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1 Week out in 08
Schnoz is still huge!
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/handsonhips1wk.jpg)
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looks like johnnynonames slightly less AIDS infested brother.
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Trying to be like Dante here, hovering at 250ish
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/sidechest.jpg)
And on stage at around 176:
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/sidechestroutine.jpg)
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I DONT KNOW OR EVEN CARE IF HE IS NATURAL.
You sure KNEW he was natural a while back. Now that he obviously screwed you over in a business deal you no longer know.
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You sure KNEW he was natural a while back. Now that he obviously screwed you over in a business deal you no longer know.
LOL. An elephant Van_Bilderass never forgets.
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video is cool as fuck
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i'm sorry but ANYONE saying that this guy is "fat" is high as a kite.
My sentiments exactly!!!
He probably eats enough food to feed a family of five (with leftovers, to spare).
You don't get that big without packing away the groceries, steroids or no steroids.
And that's the reality that too many of Dante's critics want to avoid.
Should he decide to get ripped, I'd say he's a conservative 220-225 and will look great.
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hahahaha, i love when someone is a huge muscular guy and in an attempt to prove how "ugly' their physique is they post pictures of some of the most symmetrical bodybuilders who have ever lived to compare to, "this isn't muscle, a 1999 Ronnie Coleman is muscle" ::)
They also post the CONTEST (or near-contest pics of those bodybuilders), conveniently forgetting that they don't look that way year round.
Ever seen some of Frank Zane's off-season pics? Some people here would call HIM "fat".
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Trying to be like Dante here, hovering at 250ish
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/sidechest.jpg)
And on stage at around 176:
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/sidechestroutine.jpg)
Great physique. Looking at you, I am kind of happy with my genetics. :) Thank you.
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Great physique. Looking at you, I am kind of happy with my genetics. :) Thank you.
Well, as the saying goes, "if you make even ONE person happy today, then it was a good day" lol
::)
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Well, as the saying goes, "if you make even ONE person happy today, then it was a good day" lol
::)
I really do appreciate it. :)
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I really do appreciate it. :)
See ideal physique post!
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Just my two cents, but I think our brother Dante should cut down a little bit. I mean honestly, if he doesn't brutally pound back the calories it's not as though he's going to shrivel into a scrawny bottom bitch twink or anything. I know lots of guys who start feeling smaller as they cut down, but Christ, the man's like 300lbs with limbs the circumference of most peoples shoulders!! :o
Dante, my man... you can do it. You would look exceptional if you just lost a little bit of the pudge. I know I don't need to be telling you this, but I'm just putting it out there. If I were your size, that's what I'd spend my time doing. I personally climbed up from a girl hair over 100lbs at my lower point, to 200lbs. I used to lose tons of MASS when cutting but now my body is used to being normal. For you, I'd imagine that you wouldn't lose much if any muscle if you dieted down a little. But to each his own. Fucking jacked. Read lots of DC articles and I got freakishly strong for a smaller Asian with shit for genetics. I appreciate all the time you've put into your articles and posts. Must have read a trillion of your posts.
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Just my two cents, but I think our brother Dante should cut down a little bit. I mean honestly, if he doesn't brutally pound back the calories it's not as though he's going to shrivel into a scrawny bottom bitch twink or anything. I know lots of guys who start feeling smaller as they cut down, but Christ, the man's like 300lbs with limbs the circumference of most peoples shoulders!! :o
Dante, my man... you can do it. You would look exceptional if you just lost a little bit of the pudge. I know I don't need to be telling you this, but I'm just putting it out there. If I were your size, that's what I'd spend my time doing. I personally climbed up from a #### hair over 100lbs at my lower point, to 200lbs. I used to lose tons of MASS when cutting but now my body is used to being normal. For you, I'd imagine that you wouldn't lose much if any muscle if you dieted down a little. But to each his own. Fucking jacked. Read lots of DC articles and I got freakishly strong for a smaller Asian with shit for genetics. I appreciate all the time you've put into your articles and posts. Must have read a trillion of your posts.
That's the point. Once (if possible) you get to be his size, you can worry about getting ripped, assuming you aspire to be that size.
But, you won't get anywhere near that mark, worrying about staying ripped all the time lest some critics here call you "fat".
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Yes kids if you spend the next 20 years following the DogShit(tm) training protocol and eating like you mean it, maybe you too can look like an even sloppier version of Tom Arnold in a dirty garage!!!
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You ever notice perma-bulkers always take crappy, low-res, bad-lighting, obstructed pics? Dante is the Squadfather of bb gurus.
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He carries an awful lot of fat from all the pics i've seen,
I know he preaches massive overeating
I'm wondering what type of muscle is really hiding under all that blubber/flubber
Looks unhealthy with a real high blood pressure
when I think of
"Buffoon"
That pic comes to mind
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looking great big ach
u are so tan and u have the vein on your biceps
btw can u plz help me w/ my cut diet?
thanks
ps-u have quite the large fan base on the east coast
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another meltdown. if your posts somehow fuse with dante's then we could end up creating a new universe
lol.
great post.
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looking great big ach
u are so tan and u have the vein on your biceps
btw can u plz help me w/ my cut diet?
thanks
ps-u have quite the large fan base on the east coast
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LOL, I think my only fan base is my wife and maybe some family!!
If you really need help with your cut diet feel free to PM me and I'll be happy to take a look at it and give you my input. I've dieted down 50 lbs, multiple times to get ready for shows, so I'll be happy to tell whats worked for me bro!
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LOL, I think my only fan base is my wife and maybe some family!!
If you really need help with your cut diet feel free to PM me and I'll be happy to take a look at it and give you my input. I've dieted down 50 lbs, multiple times to get ready for shows, so I'll be happy to tell whats worked for me bro!
Just curious, why do you gain so much weight in the off-season?
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Just curious, why do you gain so much weight in the off-season?
I used to think it was effective, but don't believe that anymore. I never wanna get back now to being fat.
P.S. as of today I weight 210, trying to get down to 200 or 195 and keep it tight till I compete again!
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And to compare I used to get up to 250 - 260 in the off-season, When I compete at 180ish
So I think if I stay around 200, that'll be better for me!
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thanks for the info man
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Wavelength,
I'll be honest though, I really do believe though when I was younger bulking up served its purpose, especially when I would hover around 220-230.
But I took it a bit too far when I got up to 265, and I was just plain FAT!! That fucked with me and Ibuilt up some unwanted fat-cells. Oh well!
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I think you are a solid guy and built like a tank, but please don't post a 3000 word denial on Getbig about how you don't care what Getbig thinks of you - it kinda defeats the purpose ;D
I thought it was one of your old pm's ;D
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Has Dante "Doggcrapp" Ever been lean seen his dick or his shoes?
No.
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Why would someone pose between 2 cars in a dark garage ???
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Why would someone pose between 2 cars in a dark garage ???
Good lighting, good cars.
He is a man with muscles and a man with nice cars...........no doubt about it.
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Good lighting, good cars.
He is a man with muscles and a man with nice cars...........no doubt about it.
uuuhhh...no ::)
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uuuhhh...no ::)
Well, Dante certainly thought so....... ;D
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Why would someone pose between 2 cars in a dark garage ???
Same reason someone would pose in a reflection in dirty glass with a chain in the way. Obscured pics are part of the permabulker code!
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Wavelength,
I'll be honest though, I really do believe though when I was younger bulking up served its purpose, especially when I would hover around 220-230.
But I took it a bit too far when I got up to 265, and I was just plain FAT!! That fucked with me and Ibuilt up some unwanted fat-cells. Oh well!
You make a great point, which some of these misguided folks, calling Dante "fat" don't quite seem to get.
Most of the same people who make that criticism are the same ones, whining about how bad their genetics are, how they can't get any size, and how anyone with 2 ounces more muscle than themselves is taking every thing but the kitchen sink (in terms of anabolics) in large quantities.
You need to eat big to get big; there ain't no two ways about it. Didn't Arnold have a saying about sculpting a slab of granite, not a pebble?
But, that's not easy to do. Sometimes you feel sluggish; your stomach hurts; you get tired of chewing; that shaker seems to be bottomless; you've downed thousands of calories, yet you still have a few hundred to go.
When you're younger, you have that faster metabolism (especially, if you're an ectomorph). That's the time to ingest the high quantities of food: beef, chicken, whole eggs and quality weight-gainers. But, realistically, you will NOT put on pure muscle all of the time (EVEN IF YOU TAKE STEROIDS).
Yet, it's all worth it, a few months down the line, when your arms are bigger. It's all worth it, when you're repping on the bench with what USED TO BE your max. It's all worth it, when your shirts are tighter around the shoulder and chest, while still loose around the waist.
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You make a great point, which some of these misguided folks, calling Dante "fat" don't quite seem to get.
Most of the same people who make that criticism are the same ones, whining about how bad their genetics are, how they can't get any size, and how anyone with 2 ounces more muscle than themselves is taking every thing but the kitchen sink (in terms of anabolics) in large quantities.
You need to eat big to get big; there ain't no two ways about it. Didn't Arnold have a saying about sculpting a slab of granite, not a pebble?
But, that's not easy to do. Sometimes you feel sluggish; your stomach hurts; you get tired of chewing; that shaker seems to be bottomless; you've downed thousands of calories, yet you still have a few hundred to go.
When you're younger, you have that faster metabolism (especially, if you're an ectomorph). That's the time to ingest the high quantities of food: beef, chicken, whole eggs and quality weight-gainers. But, realistically, you will NOT put on pure muscle all of the time (EVEN IF YOU TAKE STEROIDS).
Yet, it's all worth it, a few months down the line, when your arms are bigger. It's all worth it, when you're repping on the bench with what USED TO BE your max. It's all worth it, when your shirts are tighter around the shoulder and chest, while still loose around the waist.
Hey big dawg,
First off, I don't really think Dante gives a crap what people on Getbig say about him or what they think about him lol. As he stated, the man is doing exactly what he wanted and that is being bigger than a house and as strong as an Ox, regardless of what his bodyfat % is, he knows if he wants to diet down for a show he can do it (as he has in the past). As he stated he does not like how he looks dieted down , and thats totally normal.... Hell, I don't like how I look dieted down, but its not so bad for me that I never want to compete again. Plus he has his own strategy of training that has worked with many of the top pros - so he really has to be doing something right. I can't say much else about Dante as I am not him and don't know him personally, but his strategy has worked for many people, plain and simple.
Now, speaking from MY own personal experience, I have competed at a bodyweight as low as 159 lbs, and have bulked up to as high as 265 lbs. Neither one could actually be considered ideal for me really....
For competition, I think my best weight so far was when I weighed about 178 lbs, and for the off-season maybe 200-215 lbs.
I have been training seriously since the year 2000 and have been competing since the year 2003, thats not even THAT long of a time. But its enough time to learn about how my body responds to different training methods and different diets.
I whole heartedly believe that bulking up, to 230-250 really helped me earlier on building some much needed size and strength in my early 20s (I am turning 27 in September). I don't think I would have ever been able to train as heavy and as intense as I used to without the extra "cushioning". When I weighed in the 250 lbs range and was eating about 5000 calories, I was able to deadlift 500 lbs, squat 455, bench about 350, and curl about 95 lbs dumbells per arm. Now I don't list these weights to brag or anything, and I know there are MANY people out there that can lift waaaay more than that at a lower bodyweight, but these were goals of MINE, and numbers that I wanted to reach and I was not going to reach them without putting on some bodyfat. My best year of competition was 2004 when I had dieted down from 230 to 176 on show day, my body looked COMPLETELY different than it did the year before. As the years went by, (and not that many years either), I found my body started responding differently to the extra weight gain, in 2005 I was weighing about 265 lbs and of course I looked more like a football player and not so much like a bodybuilder - but I still felt pretty solid, in 2006 thats when things started to really change, my training took a bit of a turn, and so did my entire life, I got married and was living in a different country, and eating different types of food.... I still weighed about 260 lbs, but I didn't really look like a guy that worked out anymore, I looked just like a "FAT PERSON", I would've made Dante looks like he was about to step on stage. If you saw my honeymoon pictures you would all be on the floor laughing your asses off, I had a gut and just did not look good. When I dieted down in 2007, I went from 260 lbs to 180 lbs, and I honestly looked like shit that year and I placed dead last in my show. It was then that I realized tha bulking up is JUST not working for me. For the longest time I was confused as to what was going on, and honest to god I started calling up a bunch of the top natural pros trying to understand what was happening to me...I called people like Sean Sullivan, Doug Miller, and Layne Norton, and they all told me the same thing, in that my body was changing.... and it was amazing how much it changed from the age of 21 - 25, it was no longer able to handle the weight gain again, and my fat cells were just growing and growing and hard to keep them under control. It was then that I decided i wouldn't be bulking up like that ever again.
Since then i've been holding my weight at about 200-215 in the off-season. I feel it probably would've been better if I had been doing this earlier and not having to deal with these unwanted fat cells.... But I do honestly believe that When I was 18 - 21, bulking up was REALLY important and really in a way "revolutionized" my training and my experience in bodybuilding. I got stronger and I got bigger, and sure dieting down sucked, but when I did, the results were pretty good.......for sometime ;-)
I apologize for the very long post, but I really wanted to put it out there and hope to helps someone learn something!
Take care guys,
BIG ACH
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Hey big dawg,
First off, I don't really think Dante gives a crap what people on Getbig say about him or what they think about him lol. As he stated, the man is doing exactly what he wanted and that is being bigger than a house and as strong as an Ox, regardless of what his bodyfat % is, he knows if he wants to diet down for a show he can do it (as he has in the past). As he stated he does not like how he looks dieted down , and thats totally normal.... Hell, I don't like how I look dieted down, but its not so bad for me that I never want to compete again. Plus he has his own strategy of training that has worked with many of the top pros - so he really has to be doing something right. I can't say much else about Dante as I am not him and don't know him personally, but his strategy has worked for many people, plain and simple.
Now, speaking from MY own personal experience, I have competed at a bodyweight as low as 159 lbs, and have bulked up to as high as 265 lbs. Neither one could actually be considered ideal for me really....
For competition, I think my best weight so far was when I weighed about 178 lbs, and for the off-season maybe 200-215 lbs.
I have been training seriously since the year 2000 and have been competing since the year 2003, thats not even THAT long of a time. But its enough time to learn about how my body responds to different training methods and different diets.
I whole heartedly believe that bulking up, to 230-250 really helped me earlier on building some much needed size and strength in my early 20s (I am turning 27 in September). I don't think I would have ever been able to train as heavy and as intense as I used to without the extra "cushioning". When I weighed in the 250 lbs range and was eating about 5000 calories, I was able to deadlift 500 lbs, squat 455, bench about 350, and curl about 95 lbs dumbells per arm. Now I don't list these weights to brag or anything, and I know there are MANY people out there that can lift waaaay more than that at a lower bodyweight, but these were goals of MINE, and numbers that I wanted to reach and I was not going to reach them without putting on some bodyfat. My best year of competition was 2004 when I had dieted down from 230 to 176 on show day, my body looked COMPLETELY different than it did the year before. As the years went by, (and not that many years either), I found my body started responding differently to the extra weight gain, in 2005 I was weighing about 265 lbs and of course I looked more like a football player and not so much like a bodybuilder - but I still felt pretty solid, in 2006 thats when things started to really change, my training took a bit of a turn, and so did my entire life, I got married and was living in a different country, and eating different types of food.... I still weighed about 260 lbs, but I didn't really look like a guy that worked out anymore, I looked just like a "FAT PERSON", I would've made Dante looks like he was about to step on stage. If you saw my honeymoon pictures you would all be on the floor laughing your asses off, I had a gut and just did not look good. When I dieted down in 2007, I went from 260 lbs to 180 lbs, and I honestly looked like shit that year and I placed dead last in my show. It was then that I realized tha bulking up is JUST not working for me. For the longest time I was confused as to what was going on, and honest to god I started calling up a bunch of the top natural pros trying to understand what was happening to me...I called people like Sean Sullivan, Doug Miller, and Layne Norton, and they all told me the same thing, in that my body was changing.... and it was amazing how much it changed from the age of 21 - 25, it was no longer able to handle the weight gain again, and my fat cells were just growing and growing and hard to keep them under control. It was then that I decided i wouldn't be bulking up like that ever again.
Since then i've been holding my weight at about 200-215 in the off-season. I feel it probably would've been better if I had been doing this earlier and not having to deal with these unwanted fat cells.... But I do honestly believe that When I was 18 - 21, bulking up was REALLY important and really in a way "revolutionized" my training and my experience in bodybuilding. I got stronger and I got bigger, and sure dieting down sucked, but when I did, the results were pretty good.......for sometime ;-)
I apologize for the very long post, but I really wanted to put it out there and hope to helps someone learn something!
Take care guys,
BIG ACH
I don't mind long posts, as long as there's substance to it, as is the case with yours.
From my experience, I would have never cracked 200 lbs, had I not increased my calories drastically, when I was in my early 20s (college years). It took lots of regular food and weight gainer to get that done. But now that I'm in my 30s, I've hit a bit of a crossroads. The first time I surpassed the 240 mark, I was 24 years old. Granted, my arms were just two limbs and I could barely see my abs. But, my strength and overall size was at a then-all time high.
The second time I did it (age 32) I eclipsed my previous high of 247 and peaked at 252. My arms were 181/4 inches and for the first time in my life, I could bench press 405 lbs. But, that came with a price, called "love handles". It was then that I realized that, even though I'm an ectomorph, I can't eat quite the way I did in my 20s. So, I dropped my calories, mainly by ceasing my use of weight gainers (the one constant of my diet for several years).
Now, I've decided the best course of action is a compromise. I'm back to using them again but with caution. I only use them on the days I actually train; and then, I take only two servings a day instead of three. And after about two or three months, I lay off them for about a month or two and switch to MRPs or straight protein powders.
Gaining size with minimal fat is a tough road to hoe. If you're fairly big already and are trying to tweak a few areas, that's the best route. But, if you're average height (5'8") and 150 or so and fairly young, gaining 5 lbs a muscle a year (with no fat) isn't going to do you much good. You will likely get frustrated and quit.
Those are the guys who need the high calories. Putting one 40 or 50 lbs in that year (even if half of that is fat) will make that guy look much better, overall. I think we're in agreement on that one. But, as I said, putting away that much food ain't easy, which is why some folks here make excuses for not doing that.
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MCWAY, good post man!! We have similar stories for sure!
This is my arm at 250ish:
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/tapemeasure.jpg)
This is my arm at 178:
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/bipicssss.jpg)
I don't think I could've gotten that size dieted down without blasting it and gaining some extra weight in the off-season.
One of my favorite quotes is by Skip LaCour, he says "In the off-season, don't eat to stay lean, and don't eat to get fat, Eat to gain muscle!"
LOVE THAT LINE!
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MCWAY, good post man!! We have similar stories for sure!
This is my arm at 250ish:
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/tapemeasure.jpg)
This is my arm at 178:
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/bipicssss.jpg)
I don't think I could've gotten that size dieted down without blasting it and gaining some extra weight in the off-season.
One of my favorite quotes is by Skip LaCour, he says "In the off-season, don't eat to stay lean, and don't eat to get fat, Eat to gain muscle!"
LOVE THAT LINE!
Why not pull the tape correctly and show your arms at the 18.25 inches they really were? Still impressive.
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Why not pull the tape correctly and show your arms at the 18.25 inches they really were? Still impressive.
I agree - I am not holding it correctly, and I never once said my arms are 19 inches, its just hard to hold a tape measure by yourself man lol!
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I agree - I am not holding it correctly, and I never once said my arms are 19 inches, its just hard to hold a tape measure by yourself man lol!
no its not...
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why do people use "Big" in their username when they're not big?
He has a big nose.
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MCWAY, good post man!! We have similar stories for sure!
This is my arm at 250ish:
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/tapemeasure.jpg)
This is my arm at 178:
(http://www.ahmedelattar.com/images/bipicssss.jpg)
I don't think I could've gotten that size dieted down without blasting it and gaining some extra weight in the off-season.
One of my favorite quotes is by Skip LaCour, he says "In the off-season, don't eat to stay lean, and don't eat to get fat, Eat to gain muscle!"
LOVE THAT LINE!
I agree with that.
My arm, at 18 inches looked about the same as yours in that pick (minus the armpit fur, of course). ;D
If your arms are at 18 inches at "250ish", it would mean that (if possible), you'd have to beef up to about 270 to get 20-inch guns.
Something tells me that isn't an aspriation of yours.
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I agree with that.
My arm, at 18 inches looked about the same as yours in that pick (minus the armpit fur, of course). ;D
If your arms are at 18 inches at "250ish", it would mean that (if possible), you'd have to beef up to about 270 to get 20-inch guns.
Something tells me that isn't an aspriation of yours.
LOL, Would be cool to have 20 inch arms, but not really my main goal. I just want to be a better bodybuilder on stage and off!
The nose jokes never get old with you guys, do they :D
BIG ACH was a nickname given to me by my football coach back in like 8th grade (before I was ever even "big"), just sort of stuck!
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LOL, Would be cool to have 20 inch arms, but not really my main goal. I just want to be a better bodybuilder on stage and off!
The nose jokes never get old with you guys, do they :D
BIG ACH was a nickname given to me by my football coach back in like 8th grade (before I was ever even "big"), just sort of stuck!
There's no money in it...just get a nose job and settle for G4P...you look like you can do well in it...
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Dante
1 300 lbs and huge
2 21" plus arms
3 CEO of True Protein
5 Makes more money then 99% of all probdybuilders
6 Lives life on his own terms'
7 Created Dogg Crapp Training
8 He is looked up to and respected for his knowledge.
9 Doesnt need to get lean to impress his friends or girls because he is secure about himeself
10 He is a man who is respected by alot of people,he makes legit products, and is a straight forwards honest person
The average Getbigger
1 165lbs and looks horrible
2 lucky to have 15" arms
works a dead end job making $7-$8 an hour
3 l Still lives with there parents in there mid 30's,
3 Some say I own the house I just let my paretn live upstairs while I live in the basement.
5 Most get biggers spend 99% of there day on the getbig.This is why they cannot hold jobs.How the hell do some of you guys have 10k, 20k or even 30k posts??
6 Get biggers dont have ant clue about training but crique other who are bigger and better then them
7 Get biggers are the guys who go to expos and hide behind people in the crowd.They talk shit on the board, but in person they are scared and timid
8 Most getbiggers brag about cracking off all the time time.How pathetic is that?
I cant remember the last time I had to masterbate.Guys like myself dont need to masterbate, because I have a great looking wife who pleases me.If you cant even get a woman to sleep with you, you my friend are a loser.
9 The guys who talk the most shit on getbig, wont even poist a pic of themselves yet tear down and critue others.
10 getbig is one of the most negative and bitter sites I have ever visited
thats why I come here, for amusement
Here is an actual picture of one get bigger vanbilerass.This man attacks me constantly, yet his physique is nothing to be proud of.
I was a national level athlete and a CEO of a growing company, and I get bashed by this guy ??????
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There's no money in it...just get a nose job a settle for G4P...you like like you can do well in it...
I'm not doing bodybuilding for the money. I have a great job that pays me very well - my job doesn't even require a smaller nose, so I'm good! No G4P for me! ;)
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Quaker, or Dave, I dont have a big nose.I am Italian but my nose is a lil bigger then average.
Dave, we both like thick curvy women, you know the ones from brazil with 40" plus butts? Thickenss is our sickness.FAT=Fabulous and Thick
Dont tear dont your brother who is an ally in the art of curves
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(http://i44.tinypic.com/ig9bb9.gif)
LMAO, they won't recover.. :o
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BREAKING NEWS
dante strudel is a big fat ass.
his so-called strength comes out of syringe.
hope this helps
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BREAKING NEWS
dante strudel is a big fat ass.
his so-called strength comes out of syringe.
hope this helps
ya, it's not like he couldn't achieve that size without using the sauce..haha
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Dante is a big guy.Trust me you cant get as big as Dante with just drugs.Dante has been training for many years.If you look at his body it is thick dense and has alot of mature muscle.
I have a structure and build simialr to Dante, but I am leaner.Could I or Dante become an IFBB pro, no, we dont have the genetics for it.To become a pro, it has nothing to do with drug use. Its all genetics and how well your body repsponds anabolic to drugs.
I know some guys who take a ton of shit, and look horrible.Then you got guys like Chris Cormier and Flex Wheeler who considers eating chesseburgers and tater tots dieting.Yet they looked better then I ever did or ever will.
Dante is not fat, he is just very thick and very dense.I bet 99% of the guys on getbig would kill to look like Dante.How many of you guys have been 300lbs? How many of you have had a 21" bicep?
How many of you are a CEO? How many of you are looked up to by pro bodybuilders for your knowledge? The answer for all for you is none of the above.!!!!!!!
Alot of people think by having bitterness or jeliuosy towards another person will make the person they hold a grudge against some how fail.All that really happens is jeliuosy and hate you hold against another person makes you fail.Because the negative energy you create from within yourself attracts negative things, ,negative circumstances, and negative people into your life.There for you will fail!!!!
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hahaha trying to link Cutler to Trevor Smith. I think Jay trained with the guy once. I've never seen Jay use or even talk about Trevor or BFT training. Trevor Smith was another permabulker trying to push his ideas. All these guys are the same. Mentzer, Dante, Trevor.
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Dante is a big guy.Trust me you cant get as big as Dante with just drugs.Dante has been training for many years.If you look at his body it is thick dense and has alot of mature muscle.
I have a structure and build simialr to Dante, but I am leaner.Could I or Dante become an IFBB pro, no, we dont have the genetics for it.To become a pro, it has nothing to do with drug use. Its all genetics and how well your body repsponds anabolic to drugs.
I know some guys who take a ton of shit, and look horrible.Then you got guys like Chris Cormier and Flex Wheeler who considers eating chesseburgers and tater tots dieting.Yet they looked better then I ever did or ever will.
Dante is not fat, he is just very thick and very dense.I bet 99% of the guys on getbig would kill to look like Dante.How many of you guys have been 300lbs? How many of you have had a 21" bicep?
How many of you are a CEO? How many of you are looked up to by pro bodybuilders for your knowledge? The answer for all for you is none of the above.!!!!!!!
Alot of people think by having bitterness or jeliuosy towards another person will make the person they hold a grudge against some how fail.All that really happens is jeliuosy and hate you hold against another person makes you fail.Because the negative energy you create from within yourself attracts negative things, ,negative circumstances, and negative people into your life.There for you will fail!!!!
Well said!
I go back to Ronnie Coleman's famous mantra, Everybody want to be a bodybuilder. But don't nobody want to lift no heavy-@$$ weight!" That seems also applies to diet. They don't want to eat no high-@$$ calories (that is, the quality and QUANTITY to get big and strong).
Or, as Arnold once said, "You don't sculpt a pebble; you sculpt a slab of granite"
The "fat" comments seem to be coming from folks who just don't want to put in the time and energy to eat the amount of food, necessary to gain major mass (drugs or no drugs). Steroids don't make muscles out of nothing.
In other words, the "pebbles" are referring to the "slab" as being "fat".
Or, A
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Why would someone pose between 2 cars in a dark garage ???
alex23 did the same thing when he was peaking on one of his steroid cycles
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alex23 did the same thing when he was peaking on one of his steroid cycles
It seems as though Dante has copied King23.
He and Alex are both fat girls too
ta ta
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He has a big nose.
big?
it's massive.
holy fuck.
he says he weighs 250-
60 pounds of that body weight is located between his eyes.
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big guy with big muscles
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Trueprotein.com is one of my competitors in this industry, but they are one of my allies as well.They make great products that are legimate.Danate practices what he preachs, and offers products that make lablel claim.
He is one of the few people in this industry who actually gives a shit.
Is trueprotein.com as big as BSN or Muscleterch,No!!!! Will they ever be,probalby not.
But if I didnt own my company, I would buy there products over 99% of the products out there.
In this industry either you put the money into the quality of a product or you make a junk product thats looks pretty and market the hell out of it.
Do you want to pay for pretty packaing and marketing or do you want a great product.
The only reason im defending Dante is you guys are bashing one of the few people in this industry with some integrity.
How does trueprotein.com stay in buissness yet they dont plaster 4 page adds in 20 diffrent magazines???? Quality!!!!!!!!, They have a good reputation.
Like my company, they have built a reputation for being honest and reputable.
Trust me, I guarantee Dante like my company has alot of pretty well know athletes on his mailing list, who are endorsed by larger companies.
They are paid to say they use the products the company that endorses make.
I bet if Dante or I I were to post our mailing list of pro athletes, fighters aswell bodybuilders.Both the company and athlete would be embarassed.
If you only knew.lol :o.It would blow your mind.
Pro builders use alot of Waxey Maize, Whey Protein Isolate, L-Glutamine, and BCCA's this I know.What does Dante sell ? All of the above.
Not many companies make a good Whey Protein Isolate, or even sell a good Wavey Maize Starch.I do, and I know Dante does.Where do you think they get it? ;)
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shipping took a bt long but i love the protein i bought from them
Trueprotein.com is one of my competitors in this industry, but they are one of my allies as well.They make great products that are legimate.Danate practices what he preachs, and offers products that make lablel claim.
He is one of the few people in this industry who actually gives a shit.
Is trueprotein.com as big as BSN or Muscleterch,No!!!! Will they ever be,probalby not.
But if I didnt own my company, I would buy there products over 99% of the products out there.
In this industry either you put the money into the quality of a product or you make a junk product thats looks pretty and market the hell out of it.
Do you want to pay for pretty packaing and marketing or do you want a great product.
The only reason im defending Dante is you guys are bashing one of the few people in this industry with some integrity.
How does trueprotein.com stay in buissness yet they dont plaster 4 page adds in 20 diffrent magazines???? Quality!!!!!!!!, They have a good reputation.
Like my company, they have built a reputation for being honest and reputable.
Trust me, I guarantee Dante like my company has alot of pretty well know athletes on his mailing list, who are endorsed by larger companies.
They are paid to say they use the products the company that endorses make.
I bet if Dante or I I were to post our mailing list of pro athletes, fighters aswell bodybuilders.Both the company and athlete would be embarassed.
If you only knew.lol :o.It would blow your mind.
Pro builders use alot of Waxey Maize, Whey Protein Isolate, L-Glutamine, and BCCA's this I know.What does Dante sell ? All of the above.
Not many companies make a good Whey Protein Isolate, or even sell a good Wavey Maize Starch.I do, and I know Dante does.Where do you think they get it? ;)
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ha ha ha,,,your laughable my friend very laughable do you even know what you SAID AT ALL ONCE AGAIN MR. HRT IS TELLING YOUNG KIDS TO TAKE 600 GRAMS OF PROTEIN PER DAY TO GET BIG AND LARGE AND NATURAL LIKE HIM,,,KNOWING WELL HE TOOKD HORMONES FROM BEFORE,,,VERY LAUGHABLE
Trueprotein.com is one of my competitors in this industry, but they are one of my allies as well.They make great products that are legimate.Danate practices what he preachs, and offers products that make lablel claim.
He is one of the few people in this industry who actually gives a shit.
Is trueprotein.com as big as BSN or Muscleterch,No!!!! Will they ever be,probalby not.
But if I didnt own my company, I would buy there products over 99% of the products out there.
In this industry either you put the money into the quality of a product or you make a junk product thats looks pretty and market the hell out of it.
Do you want to pay for pretty packaing and marketing or do you want a great product.
The only reason im defending Dante is you guys are bashing one of the few people in this industry with some integrity.
How does trueprotein.com stay in buissness yet they dont plaster 4 page adds in 20 diffrent magazines???? Quality!!!!!!!!, They have a good reputation.
Like my company, they have built a reputation for being honest and reputable.
Trust me, I guarantee Dante like my company has alot of pretty well know athletes on his mailing list, who are endorsed by larger companies.
They are paid to say they use the products the company that endorses make.
I bet if Dante or I I were to post our mailing list of pro athletes, fighters aswell bodybuilders.Both the company and athlete would be embarassed.
If you only knew.lol :o.It would blow your mind.
Pro builders use alot of Waxey Maize, Whey Protein Isolate, L-Glutamine, and BCCA's this I know.What does Dante sell ? All of the above.
Not many companies make a good Whey Protein Isolate, or even sell a good Wavey Maize Starch.I do, and I know Dante does.Where do you think they get it? ;)
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A permabulker "afraid" to diet down. ::)
suffering from "turkey neck".
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A permabulker "afraid" to diet down. ::)
suffering from "turkey neck".
And he's afraid to diet down because.........
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And he's afraid to diet down because.........
in the fear of losing fat "size" and retard strength.
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What would be the purpose of him "dieting down"?
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in the fear of losing fat "size" and retard strength.
That makes no sense. He's not competing; so why does he need to go on a contest diet. As I said earlier, he's HUGE.
Ripped, he's at least 225 lbs (a superheavyweight).
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That makes no sense. He's not competing; so why does he need to go on a contest diet. As I said earlier, he's HUGE.
Ripped, he's at least 225 lbs (a superheavyweight).
hes huge no doubt.
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hes huge no doubt.
Are you denying that, ripped, he would NOT be, at the very least, meet the minimum 225, required to compete at a super-heavyweight?
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Are you denying that, ripped, he would NOT be, at the very least, meet the minimum 225, required to compete at a super-heavyweight?
yes, he might be.
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yes, he might be.
That leads me to my next point. There are few super-heavyweight competitors, who aren’t pushing 300 in the off-season. You don’t get that size without putting away the groceries.
As I said, too many people are afraid to start chowing down, eating and drinking the necessary calories to put on the beef. While you should do your best to minimize bodyfat accumulation, you WILL NOT put on pure muscle all of the time (whether you take steroids or not).
This may be just my opinion, but it appears that some people justify their own lack of progress, especially when they see someone substantially BIGGER and STRONGER than they are, by calling them “fat”.
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That leads me to my next point. There are few super-heavyweight competitors, who aren’t pushing 300 in the off-season. You don’t get that size without putting away the groceries.
As I said, too many people are afraid to start chowing down, eating and drinking the necessary calories to put on the beef. While you should do your best to minimize bodyfat accumulation, you WILL NOT put on pure muscle all of the time (whether you take steroids or not).
This may be just my opinion, but it appears that some people justify their own lack of progress, especially when they see someone substantially BIGGER and STRONGER than they are, by calling them “fat”.
are you reffering directly to me? Ihave only wrote on page 8 in all these pages, answering to the title : "Has Dante "Doggcrapp" Ever been lean?"
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Trust me if Dante Dante Dieted down for a dhow he would probably weigh in at 245-255lbs.
I competed as a super heavy, my off season weight was 280-290lbs.I would compete at 252-258lbs, this is official weight by John Lindsays scale.This scale is very accurate, and at the USA'S they weigh down to the 1/4lb.Because some weigh classes end at I think the 1/2lb mark.So when they say your weigh its callled out vocally, for examply 258 1/4lbs .
I would weigh in on Thursday night, just to get the weigh in out of the way.This way Friday I could finish my color, my presentation, and my complete my carb load.
By the time I stepped on stage I bet I weighed about 262lbs after restoring my glycogen, and adding a light amount of sodium right before getting on stage.
You have to remember something.If you are smart, which most guys arent.If you train hard, use the right anabolics and diet correctly you can actually put on muscle for a show.
You ask how? Quite simple, off season I might just use Sustanon 250 and some Primo or Tren.Getting ready for a show, your using more anabolics thereforer your body is more anabolic.If you are smart, again, you wont wear out your receptors on you off season.
By the time my contest prep would come, my receptors were fresh, and werent used to the anabolics I would take.So going into a show, I would add muscle.
Plus when dieting my protein and L-Glutamine level were extremely high so my body was never catabolic.
I have seen Dante, if he was to diet down for a show, with his size, knowledge, and backround he could easily step on stage at 250lbs shredded to the bone.
I bet he would place top 10 if not top 5 in nationals.
Dante knows not to overtrain, how to train and not to put the body in an anabolic state.
These are very very improtant factors when getting ready for a show.
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Trust me if Dante Dante Dieted down for a dhow he would probably weigh in at 245-255lbs.
I competed as a super heavy, my off season weiht was 280-290lbs.I would compete at 252-258lbs, this is official weight by John Lindsays scale.This sclae is very accurate, and at the USA'S they weigh down to the 1/4lb.Because some weigh classes end at I think the 1/2lb mark.So when they say your weigh its callled out vocally, for examply 258 1/4lbs .
I would weigh in on Thursday night, just to get the weigh in out of the way.This way Friday I could finish my color, my presentation, and my complete my carb load.
By the time I stepped on stage I bet I weighed about 262lbs after restoring my glycogen, and adding a light amount of sodium right before getting on stage.
You have to remember something.If you are samrt, which most guys arent.If you train hard, use the right anabolics and diet correctly you can actually put on muscle for a show.
You ask how? Quite simple, off season I might just use Sustanon 250 and some Primo or Tren.Getting ready for a show, your using more anabolics therefor your body is more anabolic.If you are smart, again, you wont wear out your receptors on you off season.
By the time my contest prep would come, my receptors were fresh, and werent used to the anabolics I would take.So going into a show, I would add muscle.
Plus when dieting my protein and L-Glutamine level were extremely high so my body was never catabolic.
I have seen Dante, if he was to diet down for a show, with his size, knowledge, and backround he could easily step on stage at 250lbs shredded to the bone.
I bet he would place top 10 if not top 5 in nationals.
Dante knows not to overtrain, how to train and not to put the body in an anabolic state.
These are very very improtant factors when getting ready for a show.
very interesting
Although I would understand that you don't want to go too low in the rep range...
What was your experience with your strength in those rep ranges you were comfortable with when preparing for your contests?
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I trained the same pre-contest as I did off season.Why change something if it is working?
I would add more drop sets, and super sets for my contest prep, but the training was very simliar.When I train I work both fast twitch and slow twitch muscles.
Most bodybuilders know that your diet and cardio get you lean not your training.
Alot of guys do all the reps, and double the excercises they do.While there calories are cut in half.This is why they step on stage looking stringy soft and flat.
Ronnie Coleman and Dorian Both training heavy, and hard up until the day of the show.
If you calories are cut in half why would you do more sets? All your body is going to do is release cortisol which will inturn break down muscle.
Alot of guys are so catabolic getting ready for a show that is why they look horrible.
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I trained the same pre-contest as I did off season.Why change something if it is working?
I would add more drop sets, and super sets for my contest prep, but the training was very simliar.When I train I work both fast twitch and slow twitch muscles.
Most bodybuilders know that your diet and cardio get you lean not your training.
Alot of guys do all the reps, and double the excercises they do.While there calories are cut in half.This is why they step on stage looking stringy soft and flat.
Ronnie Coleman and Dorian Both training heavy, and hard up until the day of the show.
If you calories are cut in half why would you do more sets? All your body is going to do is release cortisol which will inturn break down muscle.
Alot of guys are so catabolic getting ready for a show that is why they look horrible.
thanks for the reply
so would you say your numbers (weight for x reps) stayed relatively the same throughout your prep?
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;D
Don't know what's worse.
Looking like that, or looking like that AND having a shirt that says your name and "big" before it.
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This is going to sound crazy, but I never count reps.Do you time sex? ( you probably do your a getbigger lol) no!!! Why because you go by feel.How can you train to failure when your counting reps.When you count reps psychological barriers get in the way.If I tell you to do 10 reps in your brain on the 9th reps your mind will tell you im alomst done, so I have to be getting tired.If I just told you go to failure you would probalby to 12 reps.
When you train dont counts reps, go by feel!!!!
My sets and reps go as followed. If I do 3 sets of a movement, my reps would be first set 9-12 reps, 2nd set 7-9 reps, 3rd set 4-6 reps.If I am doing 2 sets on an excercise.The first set would be 7-9 reps, and the second set 4-6 reps..
If you notice there are variables, because they are going to be days,when your not as strong and days were you are able to do more reps.
By training this way I found I worked both fast and slow twitch muscle fibers.
I dont do alot of sets either, I do maybe 10-12 for chest, legs and back.For arms 6-8 sets each.Bodybuilding isnt a marathon.Every set should be like a 100 dash, all you have for that particular set.
During contest prep I would do drop sets and super sets here and there.
But remember bodybuilding is all about feel it has nothing to do with sets or reps in my opinion.Just like good sex, its not planned its not timed, its all about the passion and the feel.Training should be just as instinctive
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from my experience of loving, you want to go for extra reps in the bedroom.... no matter how much cortisol it releases......
from my experience of contest diets is similar to yours,,,, id actualy get down to a weight( after loosing the initial bulk), and more or less stay at it, just gettn harder and leaner as the diet went on...
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Local hero, sex can never release cortisol unless the girl sucked in bed or you hated the person you were sleeping with.Even in that case you still wouldnt release Corisol.
Sex like intense training releases powerful drug like endorphins that actually stop cortisol from being released.A good sex life is priceless when it comes to training.I made the most growth and progress in my training when my sex life at its best.Never undestimate the power of a healthy love life with another human being.
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Dante's a good guy, but he'd be an even better guy if he offered free shipping on orders over $100
come on Dante, help a brother out!! ;D
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Tendonitis.We dont even off free shipping if a customer odrers $1000.
If you using really good raw materials your not going to make large profit margins.
Companies Like Muscle Tech and BSN make 300-500% mark up.
I am lucky to 30%.
Do you want free shipping or a better product.?
He could give you Whey Concentrate instead oF Isolate, put in a pretty bottle like BSN, and give you free shipping.Would that make you happy??????.
Im sure you would rather get what you pay for then free shippping.If something is free or sounds to good to be true it usually is.
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Tendonitis.We dont even off free shipping if a customer odrers $1000.
If you using really good raw materials your not going to make large profit margins.
Companies Like Muscle Tech and BSN make 300-500% mark up.
I am lucky to 30%.
Do you want free shipping or a better product.?
He could give you Whey Concentrate instead oF Isolate, put in a pretty bottle like BSN, and give you free shipping.Would that make you happy??????.
Im sure you would rather get what you pay for then free shippping.If something is free or sounds to good to be true it usually is.
Calm down.
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Shut up convict!!! ;)
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why do people use "Big" in their username when they're not big?
Ach IS big by anything but pro bodybuilding standards, and he says he is natural to boot.
You used to say that your buddy Adonis was a "tank." Well, Ach's contest condition puts him to utter shame ... or do I need to post comparison pictures?
Why the double-standard, Squad? Maybe Ach's nose is big (btw, it's smoke a cigarette in the rain with your hands tied behind your back ;) ), but you are barking up the wrong tree here. Especially for what he claims to be, Ach IS big, even dieted down.
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Trust me if Dante Dante Dieted down for a dhow he would probably weigh in at 245-255lbs.
I competed as a super heavy, my off season weight was 280-290lbs.I would compete at 252-258lbs, this is official weight by John Lindsays scale.
Although you are a jackass I have to say that you were on a different level compared to Dante. There is absolutely zero chance of Dante competing at 250, unless Dante was clean at 300 and added a couple dozen pounds of lbm during prep. Looking at his pics I would estimate Dante would end up at approximately the same weight as Arvilla did, possibly 10-15lbs more.
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Although you are a jackass I have to say that you were on a different level compared to Dante. There is absolutely zero chance of Dante competing at 250, unless Dante was clean at 300 and added a couple dozen pounds of lbm during prep. Looking at his pics I would estimate Dante would end up at approximately the same weight as Arvilla did, possibly 10-15lbs more.
I said that, at the very least, he'd meed the superheavyweight minimum of 225 lbs.
And, superheavys tend to push the 300-lb mark in the off-season, which means they have to consume large amount of victuals (pronounced "vittles", as they say down south).
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Jackass??? lol
Listen Vanbilderass if we need you to sing us a song about your pick up truck your whisky drinkin woman or your trailer.We will give you a call
Leave the bodybuilding to bodybuilders.
If we need you to do a duet with Willie Nelson we will give you a call.lol
I been training 23 years,I for got more then you will ever know.
If Dante diet down given his size, knowledge,training style, and structure he could step on stage at 250lbs.
I have seen Dante in person and I would say he was close to 280lbs at about 10% bodyfat.Now in those pics he looks a lil higher.
If he is 280lbs at 10% he could step on stage at 250lbs.
When I would compete I would get to 280-290lbs at about 8-10% bodyfat and weigh in at 250lbs easy.
Like I said before when you diet for a show, you use more anabolics, so your body is more anabolic.Therefore you can actually gain and preserve muscle while losing fat.
Dante could easily be a 250lb super heavy.He is a big and strong guy.
He is not someone you would want to and tangle with, unless you want your head ripped off.This I know.Dante is a big, dense, thick and strong man.he is not fat, he is dense.
Now Vanbilderass, I mean Waylon Jennigs, are you going to release a greatest hits, album or do a duet soon? You look like such a country singing star in this pic
"On the road again, I just cant wait to get on the road again"
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Jackass??? lol
Listen Vanbilderass if we need you to sing us a song about your pick up truck your whisky drinkin woman or your trailer.We will give you a call
Leave the bodybuilding to bodybuilders.
If we need you to do a duet with Willie Nelson we will give you a call.lol
I been training 23 years,I for got more then you will ever know.
If Dante diet down given his size, knowledge,training style, and structure he could step on stage at 250lbs.
I have seen Dante in person and I would say he was close to 280lbs at about 10% bodyfat.Now in those pics he looks a lil higher.
If he is 280lbs at 10% he could step on stage at 250lbs.
When I would compete I would get to 280-290lbs at about 8-10% bodyfat and weigh in at 250lbs easy.
Like I said before when you diet for a show, you use more anabolics, so your body is more anabolic.Therefore you can actually gain and preserve muscle while losing fat.
Dante could easily be a 250lb super heavy.He is a big and strong guy.
He is not someone you would want to and tangle with, unless you want your head ripped off.This I know.Dante is a big, dense, thick and strong man.he is not fat, he is dense.
Now Vanbilderass, I mean Waylon Jennigs, are you going to release a greatest hits, album or do a duet soon? You look like such a country singing star in this pic
"On the road again, I just cant wait to get on the road again"
You are a fucking retard. But probably not stupid enough to not realize that you're sucking Dante's ass because "that's what good bros do." How does it feel to be such an ass kisser?
Dante already posted in this thread that he was down to 252lbs 5 weeks out - the point when he realized he didn't like the look and dropped out. You really think he was 2 pounds away from the stage, including water? Now I don't know what he looked like exactly but I'm guessing he had a bit more to go. Maybe he was just starting his anabolics and would've put on 25lbs of muscle in those last 5 weeks. ::)
This is not a diss on Dante. This is just an honest opinion/guesstimate of his potential stage weight. Even though I feel he has been a bit dishonest about the natural issue I think he's a smart guy when it comes to training and so on. Unlike you GetItOnNYC. You are just a clown.
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Well Arvilla got under 200lbs I think ?
I think Dante would be around 220 lbs onstage from the shots I have seen.
Still fucking big for an amateur !!!
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Well Arvilla got under 200lbs I think ?
I think Dante would be around 220 lbs onstage from the shots I have seen.
Still fucking big for an amateur !!!
Yep.
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You cannot call anybody a clown looking like this.
You have straw cowboy hat, Buddy Holly glasses, and a body with no muscle.
Do you even work out? You look like one of those musclebears, lol, lol.
The guys who go to pro contest and expos and schmoe with the pro's lol.
I am defending Dante, because Dante is a good guy.I am not good friends or bro's with Dante, but we have mutual respect for one another.
Vanbilderass, I mean Waylon, do you have a spitoon by your computer, a bucket you spit your tobacco into?
Just a lil pinch between the cheek and gum, lol
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Nothing says " I dont care" like a nice little 500 word essay ;)
LOL no kidding.
GoatBoy is in his head BIG TIME! ;D
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You cannot call anybody a clown looking like this.
You have straw cowboy hat, Buddy Holly glasses, and a body with no muscle.
Do you even work out? You look like one of those musclebears, lol, lol.
The guys who go to pro contest and expos and schmoe with the pro's lol.
I am defending Dante, because Dante is a good guy.I am not good friends or bro's with Dante, but we have mutual respect for one another.
Vanbilderass, I mean Waylon, do you have a spitoon by your computer, a bucket you spit your tobacco into?
Just a lil pinch between the cheek and gum, lol
What I look like has no bearing on what I said here. I was not attacking Dante so you don't have to defend him from me.
Just tell me, do you think it likely that Dante was 2lbs away from stage condition 5 weeks out?
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What I look like has no bearing on what I said here. I was not attacking Dante so you don't have to defend him from me.
Just tell me, do you think it likely that Dante was 2lbs away from stage condition 5 weeks out?
LOL how about 5 months?
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I have seen Date in person.He was not fat.He was probably around 10%- 12% bodyfat.
The story you speak about, I have no idea if its true but I doubt it.Dante just got done working with a guy named Dusty Handshaw, who just won the overall at A California show just recently competing at 250lbs.Dusty is a big guy, but he isnt as big as Dante, this I know.
There is alot of rumors and stories on the internet.So it hard to tell what is true and what not true.
I have seen Dante in person 4 times, and each time he was 280 + lbs, and couldnt have been over 10-12% bodyfat.One of the times I saw he I was about 280-285LBS and he was bigger then I was .He wasnt fat either.
I would honestly say if Dnate had a really good off season, he could easily be 250lbs on stage.Like I said before Dante is a big dense, and very thick guy.
If I could hold 250lbs on stage, so could Dante.
Nothing against Mile Arvilla ,but Mike is taller then Dante, and nealry as big or dense.
Plus Mike has only done 2 bodybuilding shows, so he really hasnt got it down yet.Once Arvilla nails it down he could be 225-230lbs on stage.
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Listen Vanbilderass if we need you to sing us a song about your pick up truck your whisky drinkin woman or your trailer.We will give you a call
Leave the bodybuilding to bodybuilders.
If we need you to do a duet with Willie Nelson we will give you a call.lol
lol
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Ach IS big by anything but pro bodybuilding standards, and he says he is natural to boot.
You used to say that your buddy Adonis was a "tank." Well, Ach's contest condition puts him to utter shame ... or do I need to post comparison pictures?
Why the double-standard, Squad? Maybe Ach's nose is big (btw, it's smoke a cigarette in the rain with your hands tied behind your back ;) ), but you are barking up the wrong tree here. Especially for what he claims to be, Ach IS big, even dieted down.
Miss Demeanor, thanks for the props and having my back. And yes, my nose is absolutely MASSIVE - LOL, its a curse!
As i stated previously, BIG ACH was a nickname given to me back when I played football and it just stuck!
I don't get how or why my nose is popping up in every thread now! :P
But anyways, This is Dante's Thread!!
Much appreciated!
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LOL no kidding.
GoatBoy is in his head BIG TIME! ;D
I'm taking up so much space the fucker's gonna start charging me rent.
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I have seen Date in person.He was not fat.He was probably around 10%- 12% bodyfat.
The story you speak about, I have no idea if its true but I doubt it.
There is alot of rumors and stories on the internet.So it hard to tell what is true and what not true.
I would honestly say if Dnate had a really good off season, he could easily be 250lbs on stage.Like I said before Dante is a big dense, and very thick guy.
If I could hold 250lbs on stage, so could Dante.
Go read Dante's OWN post in THIS thread!
Have a good off-season?? Dante wrote the book on good off-seasons! Is 15 years a good enough off-season ? He's been through the gamut of bodybuilding drugs during that time, blast-and-cruise style (no rumor, he's written about it), so what more do you think he could do?
I'd like to see Dante say he has as good size potential as Dusty Hanshaw. I don't think he would. Like he said in this thread, he's a realist.
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Tendonitis.We dont even off free shipping if a customer odrers $1000.
If you using really good raw materials your not going to make large profit margins.
Companies Like Muscle Tech and BSN make 300-500% mark up.
I am lucky to 30%.
Do you want free shipping or a better product.?
He could give you Whey Concentrate instead oF Isolate, put in a pretty bottle like BSN, and give you free shipping.Would that make you happy??????.
Im sure you would rather get what you pay for then free shippping.If something is free or sounds to good to be true it usually is.
Saying your product is better than the top companies is absurd. If you're sure of that back it up. They purchase probably 1000 times the amount of product you do, you don't think they get it much cheaper and can sell it for a competitive price including advertising?
Dante has good product, you may have good product, but it's not superior to any top of the line company and you cant sell it any cheaper. Dante is competitive price wise and gets customers out of loyalty not price, which is good and the way it should be. I've bought from him quite a few times. I also buy other brand names quite a bit.
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Vanbilderass arguing with you about bodybuilding is like arguing with Steve Wonder, about what the color purple looks like.
Now if I wanted to know about truck pulls, roller derby, pro wrestling, mobile homes, demolition derby,lawn tractor racing,rodeos, chewing tobacco's ,Where to buy a nice spitoon ,how to kiss your sister, how to pick up dates at family reunions and how to get your tractor out of the mud I come to you for advice.
You seem like a 'simple southern man" but you know nothing, I mean nothing about bodybuilding.
Van like I said before I have seen Dante in person on a few occasions.Have you?
When I last saw his was a while back.I was probably 280 -290lbs at the time, in my off season.The guy was bigger then I was, and just about as lean.I would say his arms was over 21" because my arms were 21" at the time and he has better arms then I do.
My chest was thicker, but his back was bigger.
He also has a smaller rib cage, and waiste then I do.Which means he is going to be more symetrical then I am
My symetry always did suck.
This is a pic of Dante arm some one posted.That my friend is a 21" plus lean arm.
I think the worst case scernio Dante would weigh 235lbs -240lbs on stage, but I have a feeling he could hold 250lbs.
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Van_musclebear is getting humiliated in this thread
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Van_musclebear is getting humiliated in this thread
i thought you werent posting anymore ;D
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Vanbilderass arguing with you about bodybuilding is like arguing with Steve Wonder, about what the color purple looks like.
Now if I wanted to know about truck pulls, roller derby, pro wrestling, mobile homes, demolition derby,lawn tractor racing,rodeos, chewing tobacco's ,Where to buy a nice spitoon ,how to kiss your sister, how to pick up dates at family reunions and how to get your tractor out of the mud I come to you for advice.
Yeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaw ride'em cowboy
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i thought you werent posting anymore ;D
Another guy who got his feeling hurt because I told him he wasn't a heavyweight. :D
You seem like a 'simple southern man" but you know nothing, I mean nothing about bodybuilding.
Funny. There's no use seriously debating you, it's going nowhere.
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Van owns pretty much everyone here with his knowledge and no BS attitude 8)
I wouldn't debate anything bodybuilding related with him
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Stavios, Vanbilderass has more knowledge then 99% of all the guys on getbig.
But he does not have more knowledge then me.Yet he calls ,me a jackass, lol .
I own a supplement company, I formulate ,manufacture , and create supplements.
I been doing this 16years.
I been training 23 years, and I competed for 12.I did very well as an athlete.
I was pro natural in 2 organizations, and won some tiltes.I placed top 10 as a superheavyweight at nationals.
The bottom line is my knowledge is very very broad when it comes to nutrition and bodybuilding.I come to this board to share my pasion with other who have the same love for the sport.But Vanbilderass, seems to make frivilious attacks against me, that are pointless.That is why I was attacking him on this thread.I really hate bashing people, but with Vanbilderass, I have to defend myself.
Now back to Dante .I would have loved to compete against Dante at a National level contest.We are both thick, and dense white bodybuilders, with alot of mature muscle.
Dante would definatly give me a run for the money, on stage.Like me Dante is from the east coast, hard core, and old school.It would have been a really rush training for a show, knowing I was competing in the same weight class as him.I know it would have pushed me to the limits,.Because I know he is very knowledgeable and hungry like myself.
We both would be 250LBS + so it would be 500lbs of muscle going toe to toe.
Both of us 21" + arms both 280-300lbs in the offseason
It would be a very close match, but I think he will get my by 1 or 2 points on symmtery, because I have a big rib cage.So I am a lil blocky.
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Stavios, Vanbilderass has more knowledge then 99% of all the guys on getbig.
But he does not have more knowledge then me.Yet he calls ,me a jackass, lol .
I own a supplement company, I formulate ,manufacture , and create supplements.
I been doing this 16years.
I been training 23 years, and I competed for 12.I did very well as an athlete.
I was pro natural in 2 organizations, and won some tiltes.I placed top 10 as a superheavyweight at nationals.
The bottom line is my knowledge is very very broad when it comes to nutrition and bodybuilding.I come to this board to share my pasion with other who have the same love for the sport.But Vanbilderass, seems to make frivilious attacks against me, that are pointless.That is why I was attacking him on this thread.I really hate bashing people, but with Vanbilderass, I have to defend myself.
Now back to Dante .I would have loved to compete against Dante at a National level contest.We are both thick, and dense white bodybuilders, with alot of mature muscle.
Dante would definatly give me a run for the money, on stage.Like me Dante is from the east coast, hard core, and old school.It would have been a really rush training for a show, knowing I was competing in the same weight class as him.I know it would have pushed me to the limits,.Because I know he is very knowledgeable and hungry like myself.
We both would be 250LBS + so it would be 500lbs of muscle going toe to toe.
Both of us 21" + arms both 280-300lbs in the offseason
It would be a very close match, but I think he will get my by 1 or 2 points on symmtery, because I have a big rib cage.So I am a lil blocky.
Seriously, you are absolutely disillusional.
If DC ever got down to a true 4% BF at a competition he would be around 220 and that is being VERY generous and on alot of GEAR.
I have never seen a pic of you so I wont comment on you.
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Someone post another pic of DogShit, I need motivation to continue my diet.