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Title: Is anyone a Mike Mentzer Fan?
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 31, 2009, 04:28:25 AM
Just wondering how many Mike Mentzer fan are left out there? I think he was a great Bodybuilder and Trainer in his time. He went against the establishment and tried to make BB a science. Totally changed my view on Bodybuilding and Training, I trained with him in Venice in the 90's, he had alot of balls to say what he thought was right when everyone else was doing something else.
Title: Re: Is anyone a Mike Mentzer Fan?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on May 31, 2009, 05:55:08 AM
great bb

druggie

junkie

drugaddict

substance abuser

bs'er

tried to carve a niche

Title: Re: Is anyone a Mike Mentzer Fan?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on May 31, 2009, 06:06:45 AM
great bb

druggie

junkie

drugaddict

substance abuser

bs'er

tried to carve a niche



Isn't that a prerequisite to be a professional bodybuilder?
Title: Re: Is anyone a Mike Mentzer Fan?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on May 31, 2009, 06:11:12 AM
Isn't that a prerequisite to be a professional bodybuilder?
pretty much


Title: Re: Is anyone a Mike Mentzer Fan?
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 31, 2009, 07:15:08 AM
great bb

druggie

junkie

drugaddict

substance abuser

bs'er

tried to carve a niche


Sev good response. He went a little crazy after the 1980 O. I think he put some much into only to have Arnold to win again, however after the crazy years he regained his former mentality. Sad to see a great mind die so young his brother as well they brought alot of knowledge to BB. Dorian changed his ways after training with Mike.
Title: Re: Is anyone a Mike Mentzer Fan?
Post by: Bix on May 31, 2009, 07:15:23 AM
I am a fan. In spite of his flaws he was still a great man.
Title: Re: Is anyone a Mike Mentzer Fan?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on May 31, 2009, 07:17:31 AM
Sev good response. He went a little crazy after the 1980 O. I think he put some much into only to have Arnold to win again, however after the crazy years he regained his former mentality. Sad to see a great mind die so young his brother as well they brought alot of knowledge to BB. Dorian changed his ways after training with Mike.
like arthur jones-viator/oliva...yates mentzer was a publicity stunt
Title: Re: Is anyone a Mike Mentzer Fan?
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on May 31, 2009, 07:27:39 AM
im a fan for sure
Title: Re: Is anyone a Mike Mentzer Fan?
Post by: Army of One on May 31, 2009, 07:28:53 AM
Isn't that a prerequisite to be a professional bodybuilder?

Unless your Bob Chic,a law abiding policeman, where your doctor prescribes you with every bodybuilding drug known to man in mass quantities because he is a super doctor and rules dont apply to him.
Title: Re: Is anyone a Mike Mentzer Fan?
Post by: ether on May 31, 2009, 07:37:55 AM
Definitely.

I had the chance to talk to mentzer just prior to his passing several times on the telephone.

I was pretty young and a friend of mine was into HIT. I just emailed him on a whim and left him my number.

He called me a couple of days later and we talked for over 2 hours. He explained the basic concepts of HIT and
why he felt it would for me, given my schedule and everything.

I read both of his books (I think there is a third now) and they are quite interesting. I did try HIT ( the Mentzer way) for
about 3 months, with some success
I still do not feel that the level of intensity required is achievable by a "regular person" just looking to
workout/look good. The lack of warm up sets is also problematic and leads to injuries IMO.

Anyways, it was clear in our conversations that he was a very intelligent, thoughtful and interesting man later in his life.
He was a great bb, no question.

Title: Re: Is anyone a Mike Mentzer Fan?
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on May 31, 2009, 07:46:56 AM
do u know what kind of diet he followed???
Definitely.

I had the chance to talk to mentzer just prior to his passing several times on the telephone.

I was pretty young and a friend of mine was into HIT. I just emailed him on a whim and left him my number.

He called me a couple of days later and we talked for over 2 hours. He explained the basic concepts of HIT and
why he felt it would for me, given my schedule and everything.

I read both of his books (I think there is a third now) and they are quite interesting. I did try HIT ( the Mentzer way) for
about 3 months, with some success
I still do not feel that the level of intensity required is achievable by a "regular person" just looking to
workout/look good. The lack of warm up sets is also problematic and leads to injuries IMO.

Anyways, it was clear in our conversations that he was a very intelligent, thoughtful and interesting man later in his life.
He was a great bb, no question.


Title: Re: Is anyone a Mike Mentzer Fan?
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 31, 2009, 08:31:50 AM
Definitely.

I had the chance to talk to mentzer just prior to his passing several times on the telephone.

I was pretty young and a friend of mine was into HIT. I just emailed him on a whim and left him my number.

He called me a couple of days later and we talked for over 2 hours. He explained the basic concepts of HIT and
why he felt it would for me, given my schedule and everything.

I read both of his books (I think there is a third now) and they are quite interesting. I did try HIT ( the Mentzer way) for
about 3 months, with some success
I still do not feel that the level of intensity required is achievable by a "regular person" just looking to
workout/look good. The lack of warm up sets is also problematic and leads to injuries IMO.

Anyways, it was clear in our conversations that he was a very intelligent, thoughtful and interesting man later in his life.
He was a great bb, no question.


Exactly my experience with him as well. He was very brave going against the BB establishment probably cost him the Mr O :)
Title: Re: Is anyone a Mike Mentzer Fan?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on May 31, 2009, 09:25:48 AM
dorian was his fan!
Title: Re: Is anyone a Mike Mentzer Fan?
Post by: Mr. Magoo on May 31, 2009, 10:56:19 AM
All drugs and fooled everyone by his HIT. Several people that use to train at golds back in the 70s say he never did true HIT.
Title: Re: Is anyone a Mike Mentzer Fan?
Post by: tommywishbone on May 31, 2009, 11:36:15 AM
Awesome physique. An inspiration to 1000's. A true legend of the bodybuilding world.

His life outside of bodybuilding... I don't give a fuck. I never tried to duplicate his morals, only his arms.
Title: Re: Is anyone a Mike Mentzer Fan?
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 31, 2009, 12:01:04 PM
Awesome physique. An inspiration to 1000's. A true legend of the bodybuilding world.

His life outside of bodybuilding... I don't give a fuck. I never tried to duplicate his morals, only his arms.
Damn right good point!
Title: Re: Is anyone a Mike Mentzer Fan?
Post by: jason_deluxe on May 31, 2009, 12:35:19 PM
A drug addled idiotic also ran who preached that stupid HIT bullshit so dogmatically he'd have a kitten if certain trainers went to the gym more than twice a week.

What's not to be a fan of?
Title: Re: Is anyone a Mike Mentzer Fan?
Post by: Nasty Nate on May 31, 2009, 01:56:54 PM
Not a fan of his training principles(lots of guys say he didn't even train like his video), but his physique was awesome.
Title: Re: Is anyone a Mike Mentzer Fan?
Post by: Reign Down on May 31, 2009, 02:00:01 PM
All drugs and fooled everyone by his HIT. Several people that use to train at golds back in the 70s say he never did true HIT.

hahaha you have read about the subject thoroughly I see.
Title: Re: Is anyone a Mike Mentzer Fan?
Post by: mossel on May 31, 2009, 02:22:38 PM
legend... and great writer...
Title: Re: Is anyone a Mike Mentzer Fan?
Post by: Topskin69 on May 31, 2009, 02:29:21 PM

Mentzer fully admited that during his bbing heyday that he did an average to 6-8 sets per bodypart, (which was still a lot less then anyone else at the time.) He didnt really push H.I.T. untill he was well retired.

He was batshit crazy during the 90s, this much I can vouch for, but he was also one of thre more intelligent people in bodybuilding history. His problem I think was latching onto Objectivism.....it helped spawn, and justify, his incredibly dogmatic outlook.

For what its worth though we probably need more people like him....with all of his faults he was a very honest man, and unique in a cesspool of clones, and shallow kids.

M!
Title: Re: Is anyone a Mike Mentzer Fan?
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 31, 2009, 02:33:08 PM
Mentzer fully admited that during his bbing heyday that he did an average to 6-8 sets per bodypart, (which was still a lot less then anyone else at the time.) He didnt really push H.I.T. untill he was well retired.

He was batshit crazy during the 90s, this much I can vouch for, but he was also one of thre more intelligent people in bodybuilding history. His problem I think was latching onto Objectivism.....it helped spawn, and justify, his incredibly dogmatic outlook.

For what its worth though we probably need more people like him....with all of his faults he was a very honest man, and unique in a cesspool of clones, and shallow kids.

M!
Excellent, yes 6-8 per bodypart in his contest days but later I think he discovered that was too much...brillant person that had a bad ending.
Title: Re: Is anyone a Mike Mentzer Fan?
Post by: Danimal77 on May 31, 2009, 02:57:38 PM
Was one of the most HONEST bodybuilders out there. He stated his arms were 18 5/8" at their LARGEST (5'8" and 225 pounds). He was extremely articulate and intelligent. Probably way to philosophical for most to stomach. When he spoke, I listened. When he trained, I watched.
Title: Re: Is anyone a Mike Mentzer Fan?
Post by: Purge_WTF on May 31, 2009, 02:59:57 PM
  I think the whole one-set-to-failure thing is dejecta, but I admire him just for standing up to Arnold at the '80 Olympia the way he did.
Title: Re: Is anyone a Mike Mentzer Fan?
Post by: EL Mariachi on May 31, 2009, 03:45:09 PM
Huge fan of his training regimen, if i have time to eat and train that is.
I think HIT training is most effective for all bodygroups except triceps, forearms and quads. As the years passed by im training shorter and shorter per session. Right now i dont stay longer than 30 min in the gym, you put everything you got in those 30 min and you re beat man. I keep the warmup-sets on low reps, and very little rest between those warmupsets, like 10 to 15 seconds, then rest 2 min and do your one monster intensity set for lets say dumbell curls, right now im doing just one set and one excersize for biceps, if i have the time i do it twice weekly, and they grow faster than ever before.its awesome i say
Title: Re: Is anyone a Mike Mentzer Fan?
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 31, 2009, 04:06:42 PM
Huge fan of his training regimen, if i have time to eat and train that is.
I think HIT training is most effective for all bodygroups except triceps, forearms and quads. As the years passed by im training shorter and shorter per session. Right now i dont stay longer than 30 min in the gym, you put everything you got in those 30 min and you re beat man. I keep the warmup-sets on low reps, and very little rest between those warmupsets, like 10 to 15 seconds, then rest 2 min and do your one monster intensity set for lets say dumbell curls, right now im doing just one set and one excersize for biceps, if i have the time i do it twice weekly, and they grow faster than ever before.its awesome i say

Outstanding Mike principles to work especially for no drug users. Pretty much everything works for drug users. Even drug users could benefit if they gave his principles a chance.
Title: Re: Is anyone a Mike Mentzer Fan?
Post by: ether on May 31, 2009, 06:37:15 PM
do u know what kind of diet he followed???

we never discussed it formally, I believe he advocated 1.5 g of protein per lb of lean body mass though.

mentzer's ideals for building muscle made scientific sense which is why many people tried them, he truly
believed they worked and was quite dogmatic about it.

I'll never forget he sounded just like the audio tapes when he talked, he was quite well spoken.
Title: Re: Is anyone a Mike Mentzer Fan?
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 31, 2009, 06:40:23 PM
we never discussed it formally, I believe he advocated 1.5 g of protein per lb of lean body mass though.

mentzer's ideals for building muscle made scientific sense which is why many people tried them, he truly
believed they worked and was quite dogmatic about it.

I'll never forget he sounded just like the audio tapes when he talked, he was quite well spoken.
Yes very intelligent person that tried to educate the BB community but never could. its still 6 days a week for less results for most.
Title: Re: Is anyone a Mike Mentzer Fan?
Post by: WillGrant on May 31, 2009, 06:49:32 PM
Great Moustache
Title: Re: Is anyone a Mike Mentzer Fan?
Post by: pellius on May 31, 2009, 08:36:53 PM
Well, Chick did say Mike had a weak chest, child bearing hips, and a distended gut.

Title: Re: Is anyone a Mike Mentzer Fan?
Post by: Purge_WTF on June 01, 2009, 12:15:34 AM
Well, Chick did say Mike had a weak chest, child bearing hips, and a distended gut.



  Well, Chick is an asshole.
Title: Re: Is anyone a Mike Mentzer Fan?
Post by: LatsMcGee on June 01, 2009, 02:38:28 AM
The shit eating sperm receptacle known as Bluto was a lover of all things MM.
Title: Re: Is anyone a Mike Mentzer Fan?
Post by: Rome on June 01, 2009, 04:21:46 AM
I was always a Mentzer fan. His biggest contribution was his belief that over training was one of the worse things you could do for muscle growth. After reading his articles as a teenager, I cut my sets WAY DOWN and made great progress while people around me stayed stuck and looked the same year after year.
Title: Re: Is anyone a Mike Mentzer Fan?
Post by: aliamini on June 01, 2009, 05:45:28 AM
i m a big fan ... I read mest of his books & saw his HIT DVDs ... Not an advocate of everything he did … but a very reasonable person for his era
Title: Re: Is anyone a Mike Mentzer Fan?
Post by: ironneck on June 01, 2009, 05:46:36 AM
i m a big fan ... I read mest of his books & saw his HIT DVDs ... Not an advocate of everything he did … but a very reasonable person for his era

you quite the person to be the fan of too bro
Title: Re: Is anyone a Mike Mentzer Fan?
Post by: Mr Nobody on June 01, 2009, 02:27:46 PM
A drug addled idiotic also ran who preached that stupid HIT bullshit so dogmatically he'd have a kitten if certain trainers went to the gym more than twice a week.

What's not to be a fan of?
How many days in the gym and how many sets would you propose?
Title: Re: Is anyone a Mike Mentzer Fan?
Post by: Mr Nobody on June 01, 2009, 02:30:34 PM
Well, Chick did say Mike had a weak chest, child bearing hips, and a distended gut.


Mike would wip Chick's ass in any contest!
Title: Re: Is anyone a Mike Mentzer Fan?
Post by: Straw Man on June 01, 2009, 07:37:38 PM
we never discussed it formally, I believe he advocated 1.5 g of protein per lb of lean body mass though.

mentzer's ideals for building muscle made scientific sense which is why many people tried them, he truly
believed they worked and was quite dogmatic about it.

I'll never forget he sounded just like the audio tapes when he talked, he was quite well spoken.

I seem to recall him advocating a low protein and relatively high carb diet