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Title: TUNA Sandwich May be a THING in the PAST. :/
Post by: The True Adonis on June 08, 2009, 08:43:17 AM
Title: Re: TUNA Sandwich May be a THING in the PAST. :/
Post by: Deicide on June 08, 2009, 08:45:30 AM


99% of every species that has ever existed has gone extinct; Tuna will as well and so will we.

Team Horible Genetics approved
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Post by: Spike on June 08, 2009, 08:47:41 AM
I like a mercury sandwich every now and then -- flush out the ol' kidneys
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Post by: The Showstoppa on June 08, 2009, 08:48:32 AM
I like a mercury sandwich every now and then -- flush out the ol' kidneys

Yes and it's obviously going to make you very fast. 
Title: Re: TUNA Sandwich May be a THING in the PAST. :/
Post by: The True Adonis on June 08, 2009, 08:50:35 AM
99% of every species that has ever existed has gone extinct; Tuna will as well and so will we.

Team Horible Genetics approved
With that kind of rationale, you should just kill everything you see, humans included.

Your apathy sickens me.  The road to Auschwitz was built by hate, but paved with indifference.  I have a feeling you would be one who would just go right along with the killing and seizure of civil liberties as well.
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Post by: chainsaw on June 08, 2009, 08:51:51 AM
I import my own tuna on the internet.
Lot better than the Whole foods.
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Post by: Vorkosigan on June 08, 2009, 08:52:47 AM
Enjoy :

http://www.worldometers.info/



1,137,044,272   Overweight people in the world right now

21,261   People who died of hunger today

60,333   Species that have gone extinct this year
Title: Re: TUNA Sandwich May be a THING in the PAST. :/
Post by: Spike on June 08, 2009, 08:53:28 AM
I import my own tuna on the internet.
Lot better than the Whole foods.

really??  how is it packaged? canned?
Title: Re: TUNA Sandwich May be a THING in the PAST. :/
Post by: Deicide on June 08, 2009, 08:54:26 AM
With that kind of rationale, you should just kill everything you see, humans included.

Your apathy sickens me.  The road to Auschwitz was paved with indifference.  I have a feeling you would be one who would just go right along with the killing and seizure of civil liberties as well.


I doubt it. I would have been schlepped to the camps along with everyone else. It's not apathy, it's realism. I try to change what I can and accept what I can't. Market demands always end up trumping conservation; that is my point. People want to eat tuna so they will be fished to extinction. That's life.

Team Horrible Genetics approved
Title: Re: TUNA Sandwich May be a THING in the PAST. :/
Post by: nodeal on June 08, 2009, 08:55:31 AM
That video made me so hungry.

I'm not worried about tuna not being available. It's more BS, just like global warming.
Title: Re: TUNA Sandwich May be a THING in the PAST. :/
Post by: The True Adonis on June 08, 2009, 08:59:27 AM
That video made me so hungry.

I'm not worried about tuna not being available. It's more BS, just like global warming.
Quit your UPS job and learn a little about the earth please.
Title: Re: TUNA Sandwich May be a THING in the PAST. :/
Post by: nodeal on June 08, 2009, 09:04:50 AM
Quit your UPS job and learn a little about the earth please.

Damn, feisty.

I forgot, global warming furthers the agendas of those supporting a socialist America  ::)
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Post by: Ron on June 08, 2009, 09:10:16 AM

In time, most desired fish will be farm bred.... especially if they continue to overfish the areas..


http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/summary/324/5932/1260


To satiate rising demand, dozens of tuna farms have sprung up off Japan's coasts. Each year, Japanese fishers capture 300,000 to 400,000 young bluefins from the open ocean and fatten them in pens before shipping them off to wholesalers. But removing juveniles from the wild has only increased pressure on the heavily fished species, leaving some populations on the brink of collapse. Researchers at Kinki University's Ohshima Experiment Station now hope their hard-won success in rearing second-generation captive tuna — something no other group in the world has accomplished—will give wild tuna a reprieve.
Title: Re: TUNA Sandwich May be a THING in the PAST. :/
Post by: The True Adonis on June 08, 2009, 09:11:04 AM
Damn, feisty.

I forgot, global warming furthers the agendas of those supporting a socialist America  ::)
No it doesn`t.

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Post by: polychronopolous on June 08, 2009, 09:11:50 AM
We will all be dead and buried and tuna still will not yet be extinct.

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Post by: atafic on June 08, 2009, 10:23:41 AM
For this exact reason I stopped eating tuna 3 years ago. The way they hunt them (the deploy even airplanes with radar) it's simply ridiculous and not sustainable.
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Post by: StickStickly on June 08, 2009, 10:49:10 AM
That video made me so hungry.

I'm not worried about tuna not being available. It's more BS, just like global warming.
I hope that you live long enough to see a world where you must resort to cannibalism. May thy lord jesus christ bless everything you do for i shall fear no evil as i walk throu.. .STFU i hope you die hahahahahhahahahah
Title: Re: TUNA Sandwich May be a THING in the PAST. :/
Post by: StickStickly on June 08, 2009, 10:52:57 AM
Damn, feisty.

I forgot, global warming furthers the agendas of those supporting a socialist America  ::)

You need some satan worshipping music in your life... maybe you will be shocked back into reality. You worship a zombie after all.... might as well listen to some of this to fuel the fire.
Title: Re: TUNA Sandwich May be a THING in the PAST. :/
Post by: Tapeworm on June 08, 2009, 11:31:09 AM
Does this mean I can't eat dolphin because a tuna might get hurt?

So long and thanks for all the fish.  :'(
Title: Re: TUNA Sandwich May be a THING in the PAST. :/
Post by: hangclean on June 08, 2009, 11:52:52 AM
Damn, feisty.

I forgot, global warming furthers the agendas of those supporting a socialist America  ::)
  Please tell me you are joking.
Title: Re: TUNA Sandwich May be a THING in the PAST. :/
Post by: MAXX on June 08, 2009, 12:28:53 PM
damn. I have to admit I'm a huge consumer of tuna.

dunno what else to eat that's cheap and easy to make fast meals on.  :(
Title: Re: TUNA Sandwich May be a THING in the PAST. :/
Post by: freespirit on June 08, 2009, 12:50:34 PM
As long as the consumers are able to fill their refrigerators with food and icecream, the consumers will turn their head.

If nothing will change, the oceans will be empty by 2050, if not sooner.
Title: Re: TUNA Sandwich May be a THING in the PAST. :/
Post by: tbombz on June 08, 2009, 12:56:51 PM
That video made me so hungry.

I'm not worried about tuna not being available. It's more BS, just like global warming.
hold a convention for everyone who thinks like you do and kill them all along with yourself.
Title: Re: TUNA Sandwich May be a THING in the PAST. :/
Post by: Mons Venus on June 08, 2009, 01:01:11 PM



Tuna = Mercury poisoning  :-X
Title: Re: TUNA Sandwich May be a THING in the PAST. :/
Post by: nodeal on June 08, 2009, 02:13:53 PM
hold a convention for everyone who thinks like you do and kill them all along with yourself.
  Please tell me you are joking.

Please tell me you tools are kidding when you say you believe in global warming...as in man-made emissions contributing to earth's rising temps. Brain washed. Unbelievable.
Title: Re: TUNA Sandwich May be a THING in the PAST. :/
Post by: The Ugly on June 08, 2009, 02:14:33 PM
See, we shoulda been eating tuna-safe dolphin.
Title: Re: TUNA Sandwich May be a THING in the PAST. :/
Post by: StickStickly on June 08, 2009, 02:16:12 PM
Please tell me you tools are kidding when you say you believe in global warming...as in man-made emissions contributing to earth's rising temps. Brain washed. Unbelievable.
Can you tell us what the liberal agenda is then nodoodoo and what they are trying to accomplish by pushing the thread of global warming? Can i ask where you get your news from and where you were educated? Perhaps where you were raised as well?
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Post by: Mr Nobody on June 08, 2009, 02:24:56 PM

Something will kill your A$$ probably wont be Tuna ;D
Title: Re: TUNA Sandwich May be a THING in the PAST. :/
Post by: Marty Champions on June 08, 2009, 02:29:41 PM
tuna can make you prone to acne since its so disgustingly acidic

not to mention the potential of mercury

its disgusting humans still feel the need to catch a sea creature of this size and kill it just for a meal when there are much healthier alternatives  >:(
Title: Re: TUNA Sandwich May be a THING in the PAST. :/
Post by: Mr Nobody on June 08, 2009, 02:32:34 PM
tuna can make you prone to acne since its so disgustingly acidic

not to mention the potential of mercury

its disgusting humans still feel the need to catch a sea creature of this size and kill it just for a meal when there are much healthier alternatives  >:(
You must be a Vegie then?
Title: Re: TUNA Sandwich May be a THING in the PAST. :/
Post by: Marty Champions on June 08, 2009, 02:39:11 PM
You must be a Vegie then?

many fisherman or people who handle fish have also been known to attain weird sores from handling ocean creatures

all other foods much less risk

chicken and cow potentially could be litterd with abnormal cancerous growth and many still eat uknowingly because they cant see it. you would have to really char out meat to a krisp to kill all the things that could harm you, its not optimal espeically now since there is TRUE science showing how Dolphins emit waves that potentially impart sustain human life

just like a tree to a man and a man to a tree can ONLY co-exist. We have to save these large creatures but if you choose to eat and destroy you are only gambiling with your health, and risk compacted through repetition.
Title: Re: TUNA Sandwich May be a THING in the PAST. :/
Post by: Mr Nobody on June 08, 2009, 02:42:38 PM
many fisherman or people who handle fish have also been known to attain weird sores from handling ocean creatures

all other foods much less risk

chicken and cow potentially could be litterd with abnormal cancerous growth and many still eat uknowingly because they cant see it. you would have to really char out meat to a krisp to kill all the things that could harm you, its not optimal espeically now since there is TRUE science showing how Dolphins emit waves that potentially impart sustain human life

just like a tree to a man and a man to a tree can ONLY co-exist. We have to save these large creatures but if you choose to eat and destroy you are only gambiling with your health, and risk compacted through repetition.
Nice point, I could never gain mass on a vegie diet though...
Title: Re: TUNA Sandwich May be a THING in the PAST. :/
Post by: Marty Champions on June 08, 2009, 02:43:28 PM
Nice point, I could never gain mass on a vegie diet though...

why not

eat for energy

energy=energy to workout=mass
Title: Re: TUNA Sandwich May be a THING in the PAST. :/
Post by: Mr Nobody on June 08, 2009, 02:45:14 PM
why not

eat for energy

energy=energy to workout=mass
What is used for protein Beans+Rice, milk what else?
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Post by: The Showstoppa on June 08, 2009, 02:47:49 PM
What is used for protein Beans+Rice, milk what else?

the tap?
Title: Re: TUNA Sandwich May be a THING in the PAST. :/
Post by: Marty Champions on June 08, 2009, 02:48:51 PM
What is used for protein Beans+Rice, milk what else?

dont opt for the whole rice or whole bean

the carbs are unessential

milk is nonessential during the day only at night for its sleep effects

many have thought of turkey being bad for its tryptophan content but forget about milk

the lactose in milk isnt the problem its that amino acid but its essential, best for night

go for hemp protien, rice protien, ground flaxseeds, maybe egg(so expensive), i wish they made a bean protien they probably will pretty soon

you can easily correct bodyfat in a few days from this method
Title: Re: TUNA Sandwich May be a THING in the PAST. :/
Post by: Mr Nobody on June 08, 2009, 02:53:38 PM
dont opt for the whole rice or whole bean

the carbs are unessential

milk is nonessential during the day only at night for its sleep effects

many have thought of turkey being bad for its tryptophan content but forget about milk

the lactose in milk isnt the problem its that amino acid but its essential, best for night

go for hemp protien, rice protien, ground flaxseeds, maybe egg(so expensive), i wish they made a bean protien they probably will pretty soon

you can easily correct bodyfat in a few days from this method
Give me some examples of hemp protein? rice protein? etc..
Title: Re: TUNA Sandwich May be a THING in the PAST. :/
Post by: Marty Champions on June 08, 2009, 02:57:33 PM
Give me some examples of hemp protein? rice protein? etc..

i would like an example of another non meat protien, get to work

1 information does not equal 2 free informations in this life

you have to give back what you get from the fail can
Title: Re: TUNA Sandwich May be a THING in the PAST. :/
Post by: Mr Nobody on June 08, 2009, 03:07:49 PM
i would like an example of another non meat protien, get to work

1 information does not equal 2 free informations in this life

you have to give back what you get from the fail can
Thanks Mr Falcon
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Post by: tbombz on June 08, 2009, 03:23:13 PM
Please tell me you tools are kidding when you say you believe in global warming...as in man-made emissions contributing to earth's rising temps. Brain washed. Unbelievable.
  ummmm      okay...  umm..... wow... umm...    do you know anything about anything related to anything about necessary levels of different chemicals in the atmosphere to sustain life on this planet...    do you have any idea how these interact with our eco system....   its not one problem... its hundreds of problems all stemming from carbon emmisions, and the least of which is the actual "warming"...  ie = hundreds of problems stemmming from carbon emmisions and all of which will be fatal to human kind
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Post by: nodeal on June 08, 2009, 08:06:00 PM
Can you tell us what the liberal agenda is then nodoodoo and what they are trying to accomplish by pushing the thread of global warming? Can i ask where you get your news from and where you were educated? Perhaps where you were raised as well?

Global warming is bullshit. Global changes in temperature indeed do occur, but there is no clear indication that the current changes documented are due to "carbon emissions". There is nothing significant about our changes now as opposed to previous years centuries and millenniums ago. As a matter of fact, they are indeed much less significant.

Do you know what the big thing was back in the half-mark of the 20th century? Global COOLING. That's right. Based on temperatures world-wide and on the latest data accumulated by some well intended but misguided members of the scientific community, the general consensus was that a freezing over of our continents was imminent within the next few decades. It's always going to be some catastrophe that is looming over us.

I bring politics into it because the liberals have ruthlessly utilized this global warming phenomenon to push for more gov't intervention in the life of the individual. Controlling what type of cars we buy, how hot or cold we are allowed to make our homes, CAFE standards (has killed more people than the Iraq war due to the flimsy cars made as a result of these new rules for the auto companies), gauges on our gas tanks in order for the gov't to set appropriate taxes on the individual, carbon-emission cards, and many more gov't induced regulations are all being pushed by liberal environmental nutjobs to infringe upon the lives of you and me all over something as bogus as the boogy man.

The earth cooled by 0.7degrees Celsius in 2007 - the fastest on instrumental record.

  ummmm      okay...  umm..... wow... umm...    do you know anything about anything related to anything about necessary levels of different chemicals in the atmosphere to sustain life on this planet...    do you have any idea how these interact with our eco system....   its not one problem... its hundreds of problems all stemming from carbon emmisions, and the least of which is the actual "warming"...  ie = hundreds of problems stemmming from carbon emmisions and all of which will be fatal to human kind

Please read above and stick to what you know...excess protein consumption, 50 set workouts, and juicing. 
Title: Re: TUNA Sandwich May be a THING in the PAST. :/
Post by: StickStickly on June 08, 2009, 08:09:24 PM
Global warming is bullshit. Global changes in temperature indeed do occur, but there is no clear indication that the current changes documented are due to "carbon emissions". There is nothing significant about our changes now as opposed to previous years centuries and millenniums ago. As a matter of fact, they are indeed much less significant.

Do you know what the big thing was back in the half-mark of the 20th century? Global COOLING. That's right. Based on temperatures world-wide and on the latest data accumulated by some well intended but misguided members of the scientific community, the general consensus was that a freezing over of our continents was imminent within the next few decades. It's always going to be some catastrophe that is looming over us.

I bring politics into it because the liberals have ruthlessly utilized this global warming phenomenon to push for more gov't intervention in the life of the individual. Controlling what type of cars we buy, how hot or cold we are allowed to make our homes, CAFE standards (has killed more people than the Iraq war due to the flimsy cars made as a result of these new rules for the auto companies), gauges on our gas tanks in order for the gov't to set appropriate taxes on the individual, carbon-emission cards, and many more gov't induced regulations are all being pushed by liberal environmental nutjobs to infringe upon the lives of you and me all over something as bogus as the boogy man.

The earth cooled by 0.7degrees Celsius in 2007 - the fastest on instrumental record.

Please read above and stick to what you know...excess protein consumption, 50 set workouts, and juicing. 
You answered none of the questions i asked. Please reread my post and try again.
Title: Re: TUNA Sandwich May be a THING in the PAST. :/
Post by: nodeal on June 08, 2009, 08:15:40 PM
You answered none of the questions i asked. Please reread my post and try again.

I answered your questions about what I consider to be the liberal agenda and what they are trying to accomplish.
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Post by: G o a t b o y on June 08, 2009, 08:33:24 PM
With that kind of rationale, you should just kill everything you see, humans included.

Your apathy sickens me.  The road to Auschwitz was built by hate, but paved with indifference.  I have a feeling you would be one who would just go right along with the killing and seizure of civil liberties as well.



Indifference, hell... I'd be the one profiting off of Zyklon-B sales.   :D
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Post by: figgs on June 08, 2009, 09:16:35 PM
We're demanding too much of the Earth's resources, no doubt. Our demands are exceeding the rate of supply. We are not in tune with the planet in a cooperative way. Don't get caught up in the symptoms of the dis-ease. We are at war with none other than ourselves, as clearly demonstrated in this thread.  :D
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Post by: regmac on June 08, 2009, 09:18:15 PM

Oh  gee thanks  I just ate a whole can!!!!!
Title: Re: TUNA Sandwich May be a THING in the PAST. :/
Post by: G o a t b o y on June 08, 2009, 09:19:58 PM
As long as the "earth's resources" last another 60 or so years, I'm good...   beyond that, I really don't give a shit.
Title: Re: TUNA Sandwich May be a THING in the PAST. :/
Post by: StickStickly on June 08, 2009, 09:51:27 PM
I answered your questions about what I consider to be the liberal agenda and what they are trying to accomplish.
If "more control" is the liberal agenda then why has government been increasing in size with the exception of the Clinton years where it was downsized. Would republicans be just as guilty as wanting to control? Even during Reagan's attack on the bureaucracy federal government increased in size. Im confused...
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Post by: figgs on June 08, 2009, 09:52:40 PM
check this out Eckharte Tolle on personal responsibility.
http://www.expandingthoughts.com/?tag=eckhart-tolle-on-personal-responsibility
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Post by: pellius on June 08, 2009, 10:00:44 PM
In time, most desired fish will be farm bred.... especially if they continue to overfish the areas..


http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/summary/324/5932/1260


To satiate rising demand, dozens of tuna farms have sprung up off Japan's coasts. Each year, Japanese fishers capture 300,000 to 400,000 young bluefins from the open ocean and fatten them in pens before shipping them off to wholesalers. But removing juveniles from the wild has only increased pressure on the heavily fished species, leaving some populations on the brink of collapse. Researchers at Kinki University's Ohshima Experiment Station now hope their hard-won success in rearing second-generation captive tuna — something no other group in the world has accomplished—will give wild tuna a reprieve.

I'm impressed, Ron. Very impressed. You're like a John Stossel surrounded by fitness chicks.
Title: Re: TUNA Sandwich May be a THING in the PAST. :/
Post by: nodeal on June 08, 2009, 10:03:59 PM
If "more control" is the liberal agenda then why has government been increasing in size with the exception of the Clinton years where it was downsized. Would republicans be just as guilty as wanting to control? Even during Reagan's attack on the bureaucracy federal government increased in size. Im confused...

Yes many republicans are guilty of expanding the size of the gov't, but the Democratic Party and liberals alike run on a platform of government intervention to solve social and economic problems. The Republican platform is SUPPOSED to be that of conservative principles...smaller government, protection of liberties and the economy by limiting government encroachment, free market solutions, things like that. That's not to say Republican politicians have done a great job of upholding those values. I believe there is not much difference in most politicians (at least the ones that matter), democrat or republican. They do more harm to our society than good it seems like.

I'm just saying domecrats/liberals are notorious for pushing the global warming issue.
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Post by: nodeal on June 08, 2009, 10:04:59 PM
I cook with every ingredient. Sad to say whether it's endangered or not. Thats how Chef Timmy makes his money. I use sharks fin all the time.

Sounds delicious.
Title: Re: TUNA Sandwich May be a THING in the PAST. :/
Post by: StickStickly on June 08, 2009, 10:15:00 PM
Yes many republicans are guilty of expanding the size of the gov't, but the Democratic Party and liberals alike run on a platform of government intervention to solve social and economic problems. The Republican platform is SUPPOSED to be that of conservative principles...smaller government, protection of liberties and the economy by limiting government encroachment, free market solutions, things like that. That's not to say Republican politicians have done a great job of upholding those values. I believe there is not much difference in most politicians (at least the ones that matter), democrat or republican. They do more harm to our society than good it seems like.

I'm just saying domecrats/liberals are notorious for pushing the global warming issue.
A market solution isn't going to solve a problem of this grand scale unless of course you would like to let natural selection play out. There are piles of evidence supporting global warming just as there are pile of evidence in support of evolution. You can stick to your conspiracy theories but don't bring the rest of us down. Lets say there is no global warming. What is wrong with creating millions of jobs and creating new technologies that run on cheaper energy? You would rather stick to fuels that dump mercury into our oceans, kill on specie diversity, and pollute our air? Where is the logic.... im not seeing a rational decision here on your part. I am seeing a mind clouded with ideology and hatred.
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Post by: Spike on June 08, 2009, 10:18:11 PM
(http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h271/IamDraven/FUNNY/TunaFish.jpg)

(http://www.sustainabilityninja.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/bluefin-tuna.jpg)
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Post by: nodeal on June 08, 2009, 10:31:40 PM
A market solution isn't going to solve a problem of this grand scale unless of course you would like to let natural selection play out. There are piles of evidence supporting global warming just as there are pile of evidence in support of evolution. You can stick to your conspiracy theories but don't bring the rest of us down. Lets say there is no global warming. What is wrong with creating millions of jobs and creating new technologies that run on cheaper energy? You would rather stick to fuels that dump mercury into our oceans, kill on specie diversity, and pollute our air? Where is the logic.... im not seeing a rational decision here on your part. I am seeing a mind clouded with ideology and hatred.

It's not some crazy, unique conspiracy theory. It's a very mainstream and popular belief. I do not believe our carbon emissions are affecting the atmosphere and I do not believe there is anything "unnatural" currently occurring.

There's nothing wrong with developing technologies to enhance our power independence and unveil cleaner, more efficient kinds of energy. This is good. I have a problem when you try to put people into a "state of emergency" mentality, in order to pass a bunch of bogus bills and provisions that infringe upon the life of the individual and give the government more means to expand and take over.

We have not been around that long, and to think our few hundred or so years of excessive waste with the industrialization of society is enough to put the great earth in shambles is a bit over-the-top.
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Post by: StickStickly on June 08, 2009, 11:04:33 PM
It's not some crazy, unique conspiracy theory. It's a very mainstream and popular belief. I do not believe our carbon emissions are affecting the atmosphere and I do not believe there is anything "unnatural" currently occurring.

There's nothing wrong with developing technologies to enhance our power independence and unveil cleaner, more efficient kinds of energy. This is good. I have a problem when you try to put people into a "state of emergency" mentality, in order to pass a bunch of bogus bills and provisions that infringe upon the life of the individual and give the government more means to expand and take over.

We have not been around that long, and to think our few hundred or so years of excessive waste with the industrialization of society is enough to put the great earth in shambles is a bit over-the-top.
Thank you... i stopped reading there. Belief is accepting something as fact without evidence. Just as jesus is a belief, just as the tooth fairy and santa clause are beliefs, and just as the mumba jumba at the bottom of the ocean is a belief. The republicans are nothing more then a party of whiners and contrarians and will go against any group of people even if rational and logical. See Dick Cheney and torture. This comes back to the smoking argument. See, i think it is wrong that people/ businesses who pollute infringe upon ability to breath clean air or drink clean water. Shouldn't i have that right? You have to understand rights don't exist and they are something created by man to improve the quality of life. You don't have a right to anything. In this case people will fight tooth and nail to improve their quality of their life.
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Post by: figgs on June 08, 2009, 11:24:05 PM
Belief is the fall, don't take it. I can't honestly say I know what to believe, or even just favor, on this issue. What I feel and what the media exclaims are two different things. Global Warming is clearly more of a political debate than a scientific one. We were putting our heat on a few days ago here in new york. So then I hear about this Global Cooling. And then supposedly the sun is getting hotter, and they can see that the other planets are also experiencing climate change, but I don't necessarily believe that since I know we have only been able to monitor that sorta thing a few short decades.

Your responsibility is to control the climate of your own consciousness, if anything.

Hail Sol!

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ea/Sun_Life.png)
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Post by: Vorkosigan on June 09, 2009, 01:24:37 AM
We have not been around that long, and to think our few hundred or so years of excessive waste with the industrialization of society is enough to put the great earth in shambles is a bit over-the-top.
You cannot be serious. We're around 6.7 billiard people on earth and 1.5 billiard start to use as energie as the american do.

Take a look again http://www.worldometers.info/
Title: Re: TUNA Sandwich May be a THING in the PAST. :/
Post by: nodeal on June 09, 2009, 08:44:09 AM
Thank you... i stopped reading there. Belief is accepting something as fact without evidence. Just as jesus is a belief, just as the tooth fairy and santa clause are beliefs, and just as the mumba jumba at the bottom of the ocean is a belief. The republicans are nothing more then a party of whiners and contrarians and will go against any group of people even if rational and logical. See Dick Cheney and torture. This comes back to the smoking argument. See, i think it is wrong that people/ businesses who pollute infringe upon ability to breath clean air or drink clean water. Shouldn't i have that right? You have to understand rights don't exist and they are something created by man to improve the quality of life. You don't have a right to anything. In this case people will fight tooth and nail to improve their quality of their life.

I was simply contradicting your statement of my "global warming is bullshit" idea being some wild conspiracy by calling it more mainstream than you make it seem to be.

Most politicians are as you describe Republicans. You just favor one party, and more importantly, the people associated with it. Most politicians are scumbags no matter what party they say they belong to. I just simply like the platform of the Republican Party.

Clean energy solutions sounds good to me, when they actually come up with one that's effective. Until then, let's use the best resource we have thus far - fossil fuels. We are not running out any time soon. We will not live to see the day they are depleted from the earth, nor will our children, and nor will our children's children. Not only have we not even come close to tapping into every discovered oil reserve, but we have not even discovered every source of oil. Does this mean we should forget about finding a viable alternative? No, we should actively seek one. Just don't tell me I need to panic and therefore adhere to any government regulation placed upon me. That's how we got into the Iraq War - people panicked, were sold on the idea that terrorists actively threatened America's security (they do, but because of our foreign involvement, not because we are a free nation), and therefore supported the war along with the Patriot Act. 

Listen, you're not a bad guy as you obviously simply care about the environment. I know someone like myself can come off as a real douche by blurting out "global warming is bullshit", especially nowadays, but I truly believe our Earth can sustain itself perfectly in the midst of human industrialization. I don't think the recently recorded alterations in the global temperature is due to us. Let's just agree to disagree.

You cannot be serious. We're around 6.7 billiard people on earth and 1.5 billiard start to use as energie as the american do.

Take a look again http://www.worldometers.info/

Okay? I repeat: I do not think humans are significant enough to alter the global climate of the earth.

Title: Re: TUNA Sandwich May be a THING in the PAST. :/
Post by: The True Adonis on June 09, 2009, 09:40:35 AM
I don`t even waste my time with Science Deniers anymore.  Nodeal is a moron of the highest order and dumber than the ticket taker at the Creationist Museum.

Title: Re: TUNA Sandwich May be a THING in the PAST. :/
Post by: figgs on June 09, 2009, 11:10:35 AM
Major cities resemble mold on bread. Humans are definitely making a bad impact. We can argue that we are not messing up the world in the long run but we are able to get caught up in our own messes. We're still cutting down rain forests, depleting the oceans with miles long nets, we don't have a solid plan on waste management, we wage war over who controls the world's oil, and this is all going to catch up with us. Notice how these are all human issues.
Title: Re: TUNA Sandwich May be a THING in the PAST. :/
Post by: Method101 on June 09, 2009, 11:19:46 AM
Enjoy :

http://www.worldometers.info/



1,137,044,272   Overweight people in the world right now

21,261   People who died of hunger today

60,333   Species that have gone extinct this year
Those statistics are as accurate as muscletech's.  ::)  ;D
Title: Re: TUNA Sandwich May be a THING in the PAST. :/
Post by: Palpatine Q on June 09, 2009, 11:32:36 AM
I love tuna fish, the best place to get it is Costco.

 6 big  cans of really good albacore for 8 bucks.