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Beyoncé is ready for an Amazon-sized challenge -- the pop superstar wants to be the first actress to wear Wonder Woman's famed red, white and blue bathing suit on the silver screen.
"I want to do a superhero movie and what would be better than Wonder Woman? It would be great. And it would be a very bold choice. A black Wonder Woman would be a powerful thing. It's time for that, right?"
Beyoncé says that she has met with representatives of DC Comics and Warner Bros. to express her interest in a major role in one of the many comic-book adaptations now in the pipeline following the massive success of "The Dark Knight," "Iron Man" and the "Spider-Man" and "X-Men" franchises. Beyoncé's acting to career to date has included a comedic role in "Austin Powers in Goldmember" and two notable music world roles, the first as a quasi-Diana Ross character in "Dreamgirls" and as the defiant and heroin-addicted Etta James in the upcoming "Cadillac Records."
"After doing these roles that were so emotional I was thinking to myself, 'OK, I need to be a superhero,'" Beyoncé told me this week when I met her for an interview in a suite atop the Rivington Hotel in New York. "Although, when you think about the psychology of the heroes in the films these days, they are still a lot of work, of course, and emotional. But there's also an action element that I would enjoy . . .
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/herocomplex/2008/11/beyonc-wants-to.html
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Sorry, Beyonce, but WW is Caucasian and that should not change to accommodate your desires. There is a black WW character from Paradise Island; her name is Nubia. You can play Nubia but not Princess Diana. >:(
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I could see that episode made into a movie starring Angelina Jolie & Beyoncé. That would rock.
...and Nubia's outfit would be perfect for Beyoncé (I'm referring to the yellow skirt trim) poifect for camouflaging little ... ummm... imperfections. :P
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Beyonce is a horrible actress, hot, but horrible.
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I agree, leave wonder as a white woman who can deflect bullets with her bracelets, fly in a Invisible Jet (yet her clothes aren't invisible---what gives?), has superhuman strength, her lasso makes you tell the truth...
let her be Nubia or She-Hulk.
Linda Carter was the shit and will always be Wonder Woman.
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Sorry, Beyonce, but WW is Caucasian and that should not change to accommodate your desires. There is a black WW character from Paradise Island; her name is Nubia. You can play Nubia but not Princess Diana. >:(
Oh, really? Who says we can't have a black Wonder Woman?
We've already had a black Catwoman, two of them in fact (Halle BEEEERRRYYYY, Halle Berry!!! ;D, and the late Eartha Kitt....Puuuuuuurrr!!!!).
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Oh, really? Who says we can't have a black Wonder Woman?
We've already had a black Catwoman, two of them in fact (Halle BEEEERRRYYYY, Halle Berry!!! ;D, and the late Eartha Kitt....Puuuuuuurrr!!!!).
And I concur on this as well, I agree with both ;D
Or she can dress up as Wonder Woman for Jay-Z.
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Beyoncé is ready for an Amazon-sized challenge -- the pop superstar wants to be the first actress to wear Wonder Woman's famed red, white and blue bathing suit on the silver screen.
"I want to do a superhero movie and what would be better than Wonder Woman? It would be great. And it would be a very bold choice. A black Wonder Woman would be a powerful thing. It's time for that, right?"
Beyoncé says that she has met with representatives of DC Comics and Warner Bros. to express her interest in a major role in one of the many comic-book adaptations now in the pipeline following the massive success of "The Dark Knight," "Iron Man" and the "Spider-Man" and "X-Men" franchises. Beyoncé's acting to career to date has included a comedic role in "Austin Powers in Goldmember" and two notable music world roles, the first as a quasi-Diana Ross character in "Dreamgirls" and as the defiant and heroin-addicted Etta James in the upcoming "Cadillac Records."
"After doing these roles that were so emotional I was thinking to myself, 'OK, I need to be a superhero,'" Beyoncé told me this week when I met her for an interview in a suite atop the Rivington Hotel in New York. "Although, when you think about the psychology of the heroes in the films these days, they are still a lot of work, of course, and emotional. But there's also an action element that I would enjoy . . .
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/herocomplex/2008/11/beyonc-wants-to.html
Two things. First, Wonder Woman is not black. Two, she is a shitty actress. End of story.
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Two things. First, Wonder Woman is not black. Two, she is a shitty actress. End of story.
Once again, we've had a two black ladies play Catwoman. So, Beyonce's portrayal of Wonder Woman is hardly out of the question.
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I can't believe no one has mentioned Chef Tim yet. You know what I'm talkin' about.
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Two things. First, Wonder Woman is not black. Two, she is a shitty actress. End of story.
Will Smith, ...not to mention the years of white actors in black face has long since established a precedent, so your first argument has no merit. As for your second argument. :-X
i think she can act, ...but she has had a bit of a challenge launching her film career the way I think she would prefer.
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Yes, we better not have her play Wonder Woman because she is black, and we must try to stay as true as possible to the reality of......A CARTOON!
Let her play the role! She was fun in Austin Powers.
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Yes, we better not have her play Wonder Woman because she is black, and we must try to stay as true as possible to the reality of......A CARTOON!
Let her play the role! She was fun in Austin Powers.
Some people are serious about TOONS ............. just mentioning it :D
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hmmmm I dont see that happening!
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Yes, we better not have her play Wonder Woman because she is black, and we must try to stay as true as possible to the reality of......A CARTOON!
Let her play the role! She was fun in Austin Powers.
Cartoons are an art form like any other. Just because you are not a patron of them doesn't make them any less valid or serious. I doubt the creator of WW, William Marston would sanction a black actress playing WW on the silver screen. As I said, there are black amazons on WW's home world of Themyscira but Diana Prince is not one of them.
I'm all for equal opportunity; changing the race of relatively minor characters in adaptations is one thing but doing it for the lead is ego (Beyonce obviously has a big ego), political correctness, and idiocy gone too far. It was absurd for white Elizabeth Taylor to play Cleopatra; it would be equally absurd for black Beyonce to play Wonder Woman (btw, no matter how much she straightens her hair or dyes it blonde, Beyonce is black and she cannot play WW).
As someone said previously she is a terrible actress! She better stick to singing and music videos.
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Cartoons are an art form like any other. Just because you are not a patron of them doesn't make them any less valid or serious. I doubt the creator of WW, William Marston would sanction a black actress playing WW on the silver screen. As I said, there are black amazons on WW's home world of Themyscira but Diana Prince is not one of them.
I'm all for equal opportunity; changing the race of relatively minor characters in adaptations is one thing but doing it for the lead is ego (Beyonce obviously has a big ego), political correctness, and idiocy gone too far. It was absurd for white Elizabeth Taylor to play Cleopatra; it would be equally absurd for black Beyonce to play Wonder Woman (btw, no matter how much she straightens her hair or dyes it blonde, Beyonce is black and she cannot play WW).
As someone said previously she is a terrible actress! She better stick to singing and music videos.
Movies have changed the format of the original comics, more times than the law allows. Notwithstanding the Catwoman examples I've given, there's another that just came to mind from the Punisher comics.
Remember "the Russian". In the comics, the Russian was a big bald obese slob. In the movie, guess who got the role of the Russian: Pro wrestler, Kevin Nash (aka "Big Sexy", "Big Daddy Cool", "Diesel"): 7', over 300 lbs. of solid muscle, with a blonde flattop.
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Ever seen beyonce in a live interview, she is pathetic..."um..ahh..hmm..um"
lucky for her she is pretty and popular, that gives you many of chances
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Cartoons are an art form like any other. Just because you are not a patron of them doesn't make them any less valid or serious. I doubt the creator of WW, William Marston would sanction a black actress playing WW on the silver screen. As I said, there are black amazons on WW's home world of Themyscira but Diana Prince is not one of them.
I'm all for equal opportunity; changing the race of relatively minor characters in adaptations is one thing but doing it for the lead is ego (Beyonce obviously has a big ego), political correctness, and idiocy gone too far. It was absurd for white Elizabeth Taylor to play Cleopatra; it would be equally absurd for black Beyonce to play Wonder Woman (btw, no matter how much she straightens her hair or dyes it blonde, Beyonce is black and she cannot play WW).
As someone said previously she is a terrible actress! She better stick to singing and music videos.
As "absurd" as that was... it made little difference to her performance, and did not impact negatively on the film,
...just as it didn't negatively impact films when Willem Dafoe or Jim Caviezel played Jesus Christ. Get over it. ::)
If a small Canadian kid from Scarborough can successfully play a huge green ogre from a swamp, a character who is neither the same colour, nor even the same species, ...I think it's a safe bet to let a Black actress play Wonder Woman.
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As "absurd" as that was... it made little difference to her performance, and did not impact negatively on the film,
...just as it didn't negatively impact films when Willem Dafoe or Jim Caviezel played Jesus Christ. Get over it. ::)
If a small Canadian kid from Scarborough can successfully play a huge green ogre from a swamp, a character who is neither the same colour, nor even the same species, ...I think it's a safe bet to let a Black actress play Wonder Woman.
I can't forget Nicholas Cage's moving portrayal of Malcolm X. Should have won an Oscar.
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I can't forget Nicholas Cage's moving portrayal of Malcolm X. Should have won an Oscar.
brat!
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brat!
I know you are but what am I? HA HA!
(http://content6.flixster.com/photo/30/82/18/3082188_gal.jpg)
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I know you are but what am I? HA HA!
(http://content6.flixster.com/photo/30/82/18/3082188_gal.jpg)
{giggle} You're baby brat. Now Mummy says you are to eat all of your vegetables. :P
...and stay out of those dark movies theatres.
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{giggle} You're baby brat. Now Mummy says you are to eat all of your vegetables. :P
...and stay out of those dark movies theatres.
There are too many ways I could run with this one...
And yes, I learned my lesson about how to behave in a movie theatre...
(http://www.mugshots.org/hollywood/pee-wee-herman.jpg)
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This lady would make a great Wonder Woman:
(http://www.nadia-bjorlin.com/galleries/albums/digest/01_nb06.jpg)
(http://www.nadia-bjorlin.com/galleries/albums/digest/01_nb17.jpg)
(http://www.nadia-bjorlin.com/galleries/albums/digest/01_nb18.jpg)
(http://www.nadia-bjorlin.com/galleries/albums/digest/01_nb19.jpg)
(http://www.nadia-bjorlin.com/galleries/albums/pemmy02/03_nb24.jpg)
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004294/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004294/)
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Once again, we've had a two black ladies play Catwoman. So, Beyonce's portrayal of Wonder Woman is hardly out of the question.
And the catwoman movies sucked ass. Sorry but keep it close to the comic. SHe is hot but this isn't her role. Why not have rosie o'connel (wth everi is her name) play aretha franklin. same shit right.
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nadia is pretty. Too bad she always looks surprised. Jessica biel would be a great wonder woman. MMMM, if carmen electra was a better actress..yum
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Beyonce should stick to playing the role of cum dumpster for Jay Z.
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nadia is pretty. Too bad she always looks surprised. Jessica biel would be a great wonder woman. MMMM, if carmen electra was a better actress..yum
Yeah, I don’t know WTF is up with those pics.
I just grabbed them at random; she doesn’t normally look like she’s having an aneurysm.
She’s on one of the daytime soaps, and is extremely attractive – in an exotic sort of way. I believe I read somewhere that she’s expressed interest in playing the WW role, and her name has been tossed around some.
In the end, it’ll probably be a big budget film that goes to a big name…unless they do it like 2004’s Punisher. Thomas Jane may not have been the best choice, but he surprised a lot of people with how well he did.
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And the catwoman movies sucked ass. Sorry but keep it close to the comic. SHe is hot but this isn't her role. Why not have rosie o'connel (wth everi is her name) play aretha franklin. same shit right.
WRONG!!! One, we are talking about comic book characters, not actual people.
As mentioned earlier, movies adapted from comic books almost NEVER "keep it close to the comic". In the Batman comics, Joker doesn't kill Bruce Wayne's parents. But in the Batman movie, starring Michael Keaton, the Joker does.
Nor does Two-Face kill Dick Grayson's family in the comics. But, that's how it went down in "Batman Forever".
Back to the Punisher example. In the comic, "The Russian" is a big, bald, and fat slob; in the 2004 Punisher movie; a super-muscular Kevin Nash, with a blonde flat-top, portrays "The Russian".
As for Catwoman, the movie was far from great. But, that has to do more with the script itself, not the fact that Berry is portraying the lead character.
Actually, Halle Berry might make a better Wonder Woman than Beyonce. Truth be told, were it 10 years ago, Vanessa Williams would have been TERRIFIC for the part.
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I don't think Beyonce could "open" a movie to much bigger numbers than a relative unknown as the main star. That kind of goes for just about any actress for whatever reason though. Meryl Streep is considered the greatest actress in the world, yet no studio would put her in a 100 million dollar+ movie as the headliner. Actresses alone just don't sell tickets the way male movie stars do. That being said, why not use someone who looks just like Wonder Woman? I would cast Katharine McPhee personally.
(http://images.askmen.com/galleries/singer/katharine-mcphee/pictures/katharine-mcphee-picture-4.jpg)
(http://images.askmen.com/photos/katharine-mcphee/35178.jpg)
(http://images.askmen.com/photos/katharine-mcphee/35179.jpg)
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This lady would make a great Wonder Woman:
Sorry Montague, ...she doesn't stand a chance. She's a TV actress, no film behind her.
They're going to want to cast someone who can guarantee a huge opening weekend.
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I don't think Beyonce could "open" a movie to much bigger numbers than a relative unknown as the main star. That kind of goes for just about any actress for whatever reason though. Meryl Streep is considered the greatest actress in the world, yet no studio would put her in a 100 million dollar+ movie as the headliner. Actresses alone just don't sell tickets the way male movie stars do. That being said, why not use someone who looks just like Wonder Woman? I would cast Katharine McPhee personally.
We know she can sing, ...but can she act?
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Sorry Montague, ...she doesn't stand a chance. She's a TV actress, no film behind her.
They're going to want to cast someone who can guarantee a huge opening weekend.
She appeared in If I Knew I Was A Genius with Sharon Stone & Whoopi Goldberg, as well as the highly acclaimed Redline with our own uncrowned Mr. O, Kevin Levrone.
;)
She’s got some other film credits to her name, but nothing starring or even really supporting, so I know what you mean, and I agree.
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nadia is pretty. Too bad she always looks surprised. Jessica biel would be a great wonder woman. MMMM, if carmen electra was a better actress..yum
Actually, I think they should cast Michael Keaton in the role.
I mean, nobody thought he could play Batman, either and look…
;D
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This lady would make a great Wonder Woman:
(http://www.nadia-bjorlin.com/galleries/albums/digest/01_nb06.jpg)
(http://www.nadia-bjorlin.com/galleries/albums/digest/01_nb17.jpg)
(http://www.nadia-bjorlin.com/galleries/albums/digest/01_nb18.jpg)
(http://www.nadia-bjorlin.com/galleries/albums/digest/01_nb19.jpg)
(http://www.nadia-bjorlin.com/galleries/albums/pemmy02/03_nb24.jpg)
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004294/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004294/)
I second this motion! ;D
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Sorry Montague, ...she doesn't stand a chance. She's a TV actress, no film behind her.
They're going to want to cast someone who can guarantee a huge opening weekend.
Really? Did Christopher Reeve meet that qualification when they cast him as Superman? Did Brandon Routh? Or Toby McGuire for that matter? In movies of this type--movies with a title character that has a well known history and built in audience--often an inexpensive newcomer is what they prefer. They don't need a big actor to draw a crowd because the character alone does that. Sometimes, putting an expensive big name actor in a title role like this undermines the film. :-\
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Really? Did Christopher Reeve meet that qualification when they cast him as Superman? Did Brandon Routh? Or Toby McGuire for that matter? In movies of this type--movies with a title character that has a well known history and built it audience--often an inexpensive newcomer is what they prefer. They don't need a big actor to draw a crowd because the character alone does that. Sometimes, putting an expensive big name actor in a title role like this undermines the film. :-\
YES & NO. You raise some valid points, ...however, regardless of whether they choose a newcomer, or marquee,
...one thing is for sure, ...they had better be able to nail the character. Acting ability is far more important than looks. With hair stylists, wigs, makeup artists, costume designers, prosthetics etc., ...they can pretty much make anyone look anyway they want them to, it doesn't matter how much the character looks like the character, if they don't channel the energy or essence of the character. That's where they make it or break it. To focus more on the look of the character over the essence of the character would be the equivalent of casting Mike Tyson to play a scary tough guy in a voiceover
I'm going to assume you saw Angela Bassett's portrayal of Tina Turner in the biopic. Do you remember your reaction when they inserted some actual concert footage of Tina Turner in towards the end of the movie?
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That's where they make it or break it. To focus more on the look of the character over the essence of the character would be the equivalent of casting Mike Tyson to play a scary tough guy in a voiceover
:D
This is very true.
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does nadia have eye lids?
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Yes, but she only blinks once every two hours.
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ahh ok just checking. I wonder if she owns stock in visine?
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Yes, but she only blinks once every two hours.
She looks like a kid Christmas morning.
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(http://musicmoviesandmore.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/megan-fox-wonder-woman1.jpg)
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Marvel Comics Nick Fury
Before:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/45/Nicholas_DumDum_Transformers.jpg)
After:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3a/UltimateFury.jpg)
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She looks like a kid Christmas morning.
I wouldn't mind finding that under my tree.
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Marvel Comics Nick Fury
Before:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/45/Nicholas_DumDum_Transformers.jpg)
After:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3a/UltimateFury.jpg)
Um.... he's not Nick Fury anymore.
And WW is part of the DC holy trinity. It won't fly with the fan base.
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Um.... he's not Nick Fury anymore.
And WW is part of the DC holy trinity. It won't fly with the fan base.
Who is not Nick Fury anymore? You must be referring to Samuel Jackson. But that is not what I was talking about.
Nick Fury went from being white to being black in the comic books and in the Ultimate Avengers DVDs.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/98/First_Ultimate_Fury.jpg)
(http://www.geocities.com/seekeroftruth001/media/images/FURYTOON1.jpg)
I don't think Beyonce, regardless of her skin color, would make a good Wonder Woman anyway.
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Nick Fury is a C list character along the lines of Rick Jones. Most people have no idea who he is so making him black is a non-issue. But as someone said above, WW is part of DC's holy trinity. She most certainly should not be played by a black actress. >:(
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Nick Fury is a C list character along the lines of Rick Jones. Most people have no idea who he is so making him black is a non-issue. But as someone said above, WW is part of DC's holy trinity. She most certainly should not be played by a black actress. >:(
Exactly! When you start fucking with the holy trinity (Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman) the public takes notice. They are American icons.
No one is going to care about Nick Fury and it only helps that Samuel Jackson is a cool guy.
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(http://musicmoviesandmore.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/megan-fox-wonder-woman1.jpg)
I can see Megan Fox cast as Wonder Woman. :) I think Angelina Jolie would make a better Wonder Woman tho.
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I can see Megan Fox cast as Wonder Woman. :) I think Angelina Jolie would make a better Wonder Woman tho.
Judy...
Are you subconsciously repressing some kind of delayed onset adolescent desire to wear the Golden Lasso?
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Judy...
Are you subconsciously repressing some kind of delayed onset adolescent desire to wear the Golden Lasso?
;D
{blush} :-[ ummm... I don't think so, ...but you never know.
I've been experiencing a whole bunch of delayed onset adolescent desires. :D
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{blush} :-[ ummm... I don't think so, ...but you never know.
I've been experiencing a whole bunch of delayed onset adolescent desires. :D
Well, it's not bad if it is.
Now, if I was the one repressing that desire, then we could worry.
And if I ever gave in, it’d be time to move to San Francisco.
Although, with all the sh!t going on in CA, it may be best to wait before boarding that flight on the Invisible Jet.
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Nick Fury is a C list character along the lines of Rick Jones. Most people have no idea who he is so making him black is a non-issue. But as someone said above, WW is part of DC's holy trinity. She most certainly should not be played by a black actress. >:(
Twitter Campaign Wants 'Community' Actor to Be First Non-White Spider-Man
by Lindsay Robertson · June 1, 2010
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Could the movies soon have the first African American Spider-Man?
If thousands of Twitter users get their way, the star of Sony's upcoming reboot of the franchise will be Donald Glover, best known from his role on NBC's "Community." This weekend the Twitter hashtag "donald4spiderman" became the #3 trending topic in the U.S., and the campaign is still gaining steam.
The origins of this latest attempt by social media users to influence casting decisions occurred last week. After surveying the five mostly unknown white actors said to be vying for the role, Marc Bernadin, a writer for the sci-fi site io9.com, called the choices "bland" and asked, "In this day and age, why does Spidey have to be a white guy?" In response, commenters threw out Donald Glover's name as a possible contender, and a Twitter campaign was born.
A unique aspect of this latest fan campaign is its wholehearted support by the subject in question. Glover seems to like the idea (though he makes it clear on his Twitter page that he's interested in auditioning, not just being handed the role without first having to prove his worthiness). While he had nothing to do with its inception, Glover himself has been promoting the campaign, instructing fans to tweet the #donald4spiderman hash tag at strategic times to keep it trending.
In years past, an Internet petition of this kind might not be given much credence, but given the overwhelming success of the recent social-media uprising to get Betty White a hosting gig on "Saturday Night Live," this could be Glover's ticket to director Marc Webb's tryout room. He and his fans will have to act fast, though: The Hollywood Reporter is already forecasting the five most likely contenders for the role, and Glover is not on the list
Glover, a comedian and former writer for "30 Rock," has starred in only one movie so far: "Mystery Team," a comedy he co-created with his sketch comedy team, Derrick Comedy, which came out in 2009.
One hurdle Glover's fans will have is in his presumed bankability as a movie star: "Mystery Team" brought in a meager $89.4 thousand in domestic box-office sales.
http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/movie-talk-twitter-campaign-wants-community-actor-to-be-first-non-white-spider-man.html
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Sorry, but no. Peter Parker/Spiderman is caucasian and there is no reason to try to change that in a reboot. >:(
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Sorry, but no. Peter Parker/Spiderman is caucasian and there is no reason to try to change that in a reboot. >:(
I agree, although, Spidey was one of the first "Superheroes that you couldn't tell if he was white or black...
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Both Iron Man and Green Lantern created African American versions of those characters within the comic books and that is entirely legitimate, but changing the racial identify of iconic characters like Wonder Woman and Spiderman for the sake of a movie (and political correctness? The ego of some actor?) makes no sense. I grew up reading comics and I find this offensive.
There are plenty of black characters in the Marvel and DC universe. Power Man, Nubia, Storm, Blade, T’Challa/Black Panther, Falcon, Sunspot, Black Lightning…
(http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/Falcon_001.jpg)
(http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/image/Storm_04.jpg)
(http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/460061-black_lightning_matthew_clark01_large.jpg)
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The New Wonder Woman!
Makeover for Wonder Woman at 69
By GEORGE GENE GUSTINES
Wednesday is a good day for Wonder Woman. This 69-year-old superheroine, published by DC Comics, will don a new — and less revealing — costume and enjoy the publication of Issue No. 600 of her monthly series.
The costume ties into an alternative history for the character devised by J. Michael Straczynski, the new writer of the series, and into a quest by DC to shine a critical and creative spotlight on the heroine, who stands with Superman and Batman in its primary triumvirate of superstars, despite her series’s modest sales.
In the reimagining of her story, Wonder Woman, instead of growing up on Paradise Island with her mother, Queen Hippolyta, and her Amazon sisters, is smuggled out as a baby when unknown forces destroy her home and slaughter its inhabitants... http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/30/books/30wonder.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=wonder%20woman&st=cse
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Oh, really? Who says we can't have a black Wonder Woman?
just cause its been done...whats next...an Arab archi cartoon with an egyptian betty....
a ginger superman with freckles and red hair?
a gay black batman? i mean as long as you r pushing that envelope and ruining our childhood memories...which we have grown to love and dont wanna change...why not?
you cant just up and change stuff like that that is SET in a huge collective memory a certain way
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i say don't mess with the characters. If they are white they stay white, black stay black, asian..well look Gawziwa!!!! The fact that they are making thor and conan black is bad enough. I mean seriously, Thor is Nordic! Obama is screwing up the movies too! lol
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i say don't mess with the characters. If they are white they stay white, black stay black, asian..well look Gawziwa!!!! The fact that they are making thor and conan black is bad enough. I mean seriously, Thor is Nordic! Obama is screwing up the movies too! lol
people say that saying we shouldn't have a black conan or a black wonderwomen is racist...
IS NOT....
white guys made these superheroes....black n brown people r welcome to come up with their own superheros, NOT change someone elses creation...obviously a white dood isn't gonna create a black superhero ....cause he'll see himself in that superhero
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There are plenty of black characters in the Marvel and DC universe. Power Man, Nubia, Storm, Blade, T’Challa/Black Panther, Falcon, Sunspot, Black Lightning…
Other than Storm and Blade(Thanks to the Wesley Snipes movies), I don't know who Power Man, Nubia, T’Challa/Black Panther, Falcon, Sunspot, Black Lightning are.
But I do know very well who Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Spiderman, Wolverine, Captain America, and Thor are.
See my point? :-\
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people say that saying we shouldn't have a black conan or a black wonderwomen is racist...
IS NOT....
white guys made these superheroes....black n brown people r welcome to come up with their own superheros, NOT change someone elses creation...obviously a white dood isn't gonna create a black superhero ....cause he'll see himself in that superhero
During the time when today's most popular comic super heroes were created(30s, 40s, 50s), black super heroes were not popular in the US. That's the problem.
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During the time when today's most popular comic super heroes were created(30s, 40s, 50s), black super heroes were not popular in the US. That's the problem.
r you saying blacks r not creative enough to come up with some that appeal to the general masses now?
what you refer to a problem is not a problem...its just how it is...you CANNOT force a change by coming up with black superman...you dont see indians and pakistanis in india and pakistan trying to come with with brown versions of white superheoes...how bad do you wanna potray " deep deep down..i really wanna be white" :-\....actually bollywood tried and got shunned by its own people for it
the rest of us....brown people..asian people end up seeing it as....here we go again...special treatement been given to the black community cause they probably aren't smart enough to come up with their own ideas...so take a white idea and turn it black :-\ most brown people wont admit it....but pakistanis and indians are pretty sick of the "special black" treatment....and a lot of us are starting to see whites as weak and continuously apologitic for doing so
south africa had brown (indian) people slavery....you dont see south african browns asking to be treated special.
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r you saying blacks r not creative enough to come up with some that appeal to the general masses now?
what you refer to a problem is not a problem...its just how it is...you CANNOT force a change by coming up with black superman...you dont see indians and pakistanis in india and pakistan trying to come with with brown versions of white superheoes...how bad do you wanna potray " deep deep down..i really wanna be white" :-\....actually bollywood tried and got shunned by its own people for it
the rest of us....brown people..asian people end up seeing it as....here we go again...special treatement been given to the black community cause they probably aren't smart enough to come up with their own ideas...so take a white idea and turn it black :-\ most brown people wont admit it....but pakistanis and indians are pretty sick of the "special black" treatment....and a lot of us are starting to see whites as weak and continuously apologitic for doing so
south africa had brown (indian) people slavery....you dont see south african browns asking to be treated special.
Nope, not what I'm saying at all. We'll just have to see several decades from now which of today's new super heroes will become famous and popular, and what they will look like. It takes time.
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Nope, not what I'm saying at all. We'll just have to see several decades from now which of today's new super heroes will become famous and popular, and what they will look like. It takes time.
hancock ws a great movie (dunno why it got bad reviews)
a black superhero that can fly with an attitude problem....see...i'd watch part 2 to that
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hancock ws a great movie (dunno why it got bad reviews)
a black superhero that can fly with an attitude problem....see...i'd watch part 2 to that
Yup, I enjoyed it too!
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Yup, I enjoyed it too!
PS several decades from now movie theaters will be a thing of the past...once TV screens hit the 300inch size and that size becomes affordable theaters r GONE! and i say it'll happen in less then 10 years
http://www.mydigitallife.info/2008/01/08/new-record-for-worlds-largest-tv/
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SHIT
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-9698371-1.html
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PS several decades from now movie theaters will be a thing of the past...once TV screens hit the 300inch size and that size becomes affordable theaters r GONE! and i say it'll happen in less then 10 years
http://www.mydigitallife.info/2008/01/08/new-record-for-worlds-largest-tv/
Probably! I know people in the US who hardly watch tv, rent movies or go to the movie theater anymore because they have Netflix, Hulu and a heck of an entertainment center at home.
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Probably! I know people in the US who hardly watch tv, rent movies or go to the movie theater anymore because they have Netflix, Hulu and a heck of an entertainment center at home.
exactly....although i DO miss going to the movie store and browsing movies and looking at all the DVD covers :(
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Other than Storm and Blade(Thanks to the Wesley Snipes movies), I don't know who Power Man, Nubia, T’Challa/Black Panther, Falcon, Sunspot, Black Lightning are.
But I do know very well who Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Spiderman, Wolverine, Captain America, and Thor are.
See my point? :-\
white is right?
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white is right?
Nope. The point is that the ratio of white to non-white super heroes that were created in the 30s, 40s and 50s is disproportionate due to racism, segregation and inequality in those days. Some black people are simply now trying to even things out a little.
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Some black people are simply now trying to even things out a little.
thats fine...as long as ya show some creativity and even them out by creating new black superheroes...
not just changing the colour of another persons idea and calling it new :-\
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thats fine...as long as ya show some creativity and even them out by creating new black superheroes...
not just changing the colour of another persons idea and calling it new :-\
Yeah, maybe they are not going about it the best way, but those are the consequences of oppression.
Industries oppress and exploit the working class mercilessly and what do we get? The darn unions.
Companies refuse to hire competent workers only because these workers happen to be the "wrong" color and what do we get? Affirmative action.
See the pattern?
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Black president, so all bitching about race can stop now. no more excuses. Black people haven't made the effort to make a superhero do to laziness. They sure as hell don't have a problem prtrying gang bangers and pot heads. Maybe they should mmake the first black anit-hero, weedman. all he does is smoke, drink 40's and bitch about oppression. They can even have a side-kick. He can be like a black robin hood. He can take (from the government) and give it to his rims and hydrolics/nike slush fund. Look, all I am saying is forget the political correctness BS, the old and tired racist crap. They (hollywood) have had plenty of time to create a superhero of worth. It's just not marketable. How many black people care about having a black superhero. Look at the movies tailored to the black population.
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. They (hollywood) have had plenty of time to create a superhero of worth. It's just not marketable. How many black people care about having a black superhero. Look at the movies tailored to the black population.
bingo!
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Both Iron Man and Green Lantern created African American versions of those characters within the comic books and that is entirely legitimate, but changing the racial identify of iconic characters like Wonder Woman and Spiderman for the sake of a movie (and political correctness? The ego of some actor?) makes no sense. I grew up reading comics and I find this offensive.
Behind Spider-Man's mask -- a new, multi-racial face
New York (CNN) -- In the Ultimate Universe of Marvel Comics, Peter Parker -- the original alter ego of Spider-Man -- is dead, and his replacement is a half-African-American, half-Latino teenager named Miles Morales.
Wednesday, a new book -- Ultimate Comics Fallout #4 -- debuts, and the world will get to see the new web-slinging super hero. The book will be a glimpse into the Ultimate Comics universe after Peter Parker, when a new, multi-racial Spider-Man arrives on the scene.
"He swings into action, kicks butt, and when he pulls back his mask, there is another face there," said Axel Alonso, editor in chief of Marvel Comics.
"When the opportunity arose to create a new Spider-Man, we knew it had to be a character that represents the diversity -- in background and experience -- of the 21st century," Alonso said. "We have a president of mixed heritage; in fact, I'm of mixed heritage, this is just the world we live in," he continued.
With Spider-Man one of Marvel's most iconic super heroes, the simple fact that Peter Parker will no longer be the man in the Spider-Man costume will be enough to turn heads, regardless of his ethnic background.
"The key thing is (that) the 'wow' factor goes without saying," Alonso said, but he believes Miles Morales will be loveable and recognizable to long-time fans of Spider-Man, as well as relatable to a whole new demographic of readers.
"Miles is on the same journey of self discovery (as Peter Parker), he's nerdy, is good at math, and lives with his parents in Brooklyn," he said.
Peter Parker, a white orphan from Queens, died in Ultimate Comics Spider-Man #160 fighting his arch-enemy, Green Goblin.
"He died a hero, he died fulfilled," Alonso said. "He's really dead too, not come-back-to-life dead," he added, referring to the occasional propensity in the comic-book genre for reviving supposedly dead characters.
Ultimate Comics Fallout #4 will only be a preview of the new Spider-Man, according to Alonso. He will be the main character of a new series called Ultimate Comics Spider-Man #1, which debuts in September, Alonso told CNN. He said this new series will explain how Miles Morales took over for Peter Parker, introduce his family, and let the reader get to know him better as a character.
Spider-Man is one of Marvel's most recognized heroes around the globe, according to Alonso. He first appeared in Amazing Fantasy #15 in 1962, created by writer-editor Stan Lee and writer-artist Steve Ditko. Since then, Spidey, as he is often called, has appeared in several animated and live-action television shows. Spider-Man comic strips have appeared in syndicated newspaper comic strips and many films for the big screen.
Marvel released the first Ultimate Marvel imprint of comic books in 2000. The Ultimate imprint is an alternate world from Marvel's regular universe, where Parker is still alive and fighting. "The Ultimate Universe is known for its aesthetic and its attitude," Alonso said. "It is responsible for a lot of comic book innovation."
http://www.cnn.com/2011/SHOWBIZ/08/03/new.spider.man/index.html?hpt=hp_bn5
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amazingly
wonder woman
was white!!