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Title: The GOP's Identity Crisis
Post by: Al Doggity on June 10, 2009, 10:05:53 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-06-09-poll-parties_N.htm


Poll: Most Don't Know Who Speaks for the GOP

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A 52% majority of those surveyed couldn't come up with a name when asked to specify "the main person" who speaks for Republicans today. Of those who could, the top response was radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh (13%), followed in order by former vice president Dick Cheney, Arizona Sen. John McCain and former House speaker Newt Gingrich. Former president George W. Bush ranked fifth, at 3%.
Title: Re: The GOP's Identity Crisis
Post by: 240 is Back on June 11, 2009, 12:06:05 AM
I noticed Less than 3% of people named Palin as the person who speaks for the GOP.


Does this have to do wtih the stewardess comment?
Title: Re: The GOP's Identity Crisis
Post by: Purge_WTF on June 11, 2009, 12:15:31 AM
I noticed Less than 3% of people named Palin as the person who speaks for the GOP.

  Actually, I heard that it was only four people who named her as their spokesperson, and one of them said something to the effect of, "That woman from Alaska."

  And I suspect that it had less to do with the stewardess remark than it did with the fact that she's, well, a dingbat.
Title: Re: The GOP's Identity Crisis
Post by: 240 is Back on June 11, 2009, 12:19:53 AM
I would like to see the Repubs put up a fresh face in 2012.

Someone very smart and shrewd.  Someone withou babymama drama on larry King.

that gov from Utah would have been perfect, which is why obama "Shanghai'd the bastard", as Chris Mathews from MSNBC called it, sending him to china.
Title: Re: The GOP's Identity Crisis
Post by: drkaje on June 11, 2009, 04:44:58 AM
There aren't any real republicans left.
Title: Re: The GOP's Identity Crisis
Post by: MCWAY on June 11, 2009, 04:46:00 AM
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-06-09-poll-parties_N.htm


Poll: Most Don't Know Who Speaks for the GOP


As has been stated multiple times, on multiple news networks, this is par the course for the minority party. We saw much the same thing four years ago. Nobody could tell you who was running things for the Democrats: Dean? Pelosi? Reid? Clinton?

That's why Obama's emergence shocked everyone.
Title: Re: The GOP's Identity Crisis
Post by: tonymctones on June 11, 2009, 05:59:52 AM
As has been stated multiple times, on multiple news networks, this is par the course for the minority party. We saw much the same thing four years ago. Nobody could tell you who was running things for the Democrats: Dean? Pelosi? Reid? Clinton?

That's why Obama's emergence shocked everyone.
thats exactly right this is just yet another liberal tactic to smear the gop...
Title: Re: The GOP's Identity Crisis
Post by: Deicide on June 11, 2009, 06:08:16 AM
There aren't any real republicans left.

Ron Paul...?
Title: Re: The GOP's Identity Crisis
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 11, 2009, 06:30:04 AM
As has been stated multiple times, on multiple news networks, this is par the course for the minority party. We saw much the same thing four years ago. Nobody could tell you who was running things for the Democrats: Dean? Pelosi? Reid? Clinton?

That's why Obama's emergence shocked everyone.

Bullshit.

When Obama gave the keynote speech at the DNC in 2004, he put the whole country he was on notice to run in 2008.

Title: Re: The GOP's Identity Crisis
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 11, 2009, 06:30:54 AM
I noticed Less than 3% of people named Palin as the person who speaks for the GOP.



I think the 3% - all four of them - post here on getbig and call her "my girl" in their postings.   ::)

But hey.... whatever comforts them at night right?
Title: Re: The GOP's Identity Crisis
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 11, 2009, 06:46:17 AM
Bullshit.

When Obama gave the keynote speech at the DNC in 2004, he put the whole country he was on notice to run in 2008.



your magical boy wonder is sinking fast clown.  the AMA even came out against him today. 

Palin 2012 - Change even Lurker will be begging for.
Title: Re: The GOP's Identity Crisis
Post by: Deicide on June 11, 2009, 06:47:56 AM
your magical boy wonder is sinking fast clown.  the AMA even came out against him today. 

Palin 2012 - Change even Lurker will be begging for.

I don't want a rightwing fundamentalist in the White House. :-\
Title: Re: The GOP's Identity Crisis
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 11, 2009, 06:54:40 AM


Palin 2012 - Change even Lurker will be begging for.

It is going to take more than 3% of your 20% minority party within the GOP to get her on the ticket.

Good luck with those fantasies of yours.  After 2012 chances are you will forget her and go back to staring at your Pamela Anderson posters on your bedroom wall.
Title: Re: The GOP's Identity Crisis
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 11, 2009, 06:57:48 AM
It is going to take more than 3% of your 20% minority party within the GOP to get her on the ticket.

Good luck with those fantasies of yours.  After 2012 chances are you will forget her and go back to staring at your Pamela Anderson posters on your bedroom wall.

Try Eva Mendes jerkoff.
Title: Re: The GOP's Identity Crisis
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 11, 2009, 07:06:11 AM
Try GET A BETTER CANDIDATE retard.
Title: Re: The GOP's Identity Crisis
Post by: MCWAY on June 11, 2009, 07:21:55 AM
Bullshit.

When Obama gave the keynote speech at the DNC in 2004, he put the whole country he was on notice to run in 2008.


More political amnesia!!!

Do you know how utterly STUPID you sound, making such a statement? How is Obama going to announce his candidacy during the 2004 DNC?

That, genius, would have equated to the Dems' bascially handing over the 2004 election to George Bush, which they certainly did NOT do. Obama certainly wouldn't have run for office in '08, had Kerry won in '04.

Obama's speech indicated that he had a bright political future. But, the consensus was that Hilary would be the "anointed one", in the event that Kerry didn't get the job done.

But, as stated earlier, after the 2004 election, the Dems were every bit in as much disarray as the GOP is now: Bickering, finger-pointing, lack of leadership, identity-crisis, the whole ball of wax.

Title: Re: The GOP's Identity Crisis
Post by: MCWAY on June 11, 2009, 07:38:47 AM
It is going to take more than 3% of your 20% minority party within the GOP to get her on the ticket.

Good luck with those fantasies of yours.  After 2012 chances are you will forget her and go back to staring at your Pamela Anderson posters on your bedroom wall.

If Obama doesn't fix this economy, the only reason 333386 will forget about Palin is because the man who beat her in the GOP primary went on to become the 45th President; hence, the focus will be re-election.



Title: Re: The GOP's Identity Crisis
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 11, 2009, 07:41:32 AM
If Obama doesn't fix this economy, the only reason 333386 will forget about Palin is because the man who beat her in the GOP primary went on to become the 45th President; hence, the focus will be re-election.

Look, I have said many times, I like Palin very much and admit she needs work in a bunch of areas. 

On the issues specifically, I think she is far better than ZERO, who is literally on  high speed dash to bankrupting us. 
Title: Re: The GOP's Identity Crisis
Post by: Deicide on June 11, 2009, 07:44:13 AM
Look, I have said many times, I like Palin very much and admit she needs work in a bunch of areas. 

On the issues specifically, I think she is far better than ZERO, who is literally on  high speed dash to bankrupting us. 

Do you know how dangerous a talking snake believing fundy would be in the White House? These types of rightwing fundamentalists love interfering in other people's lives.
Title: Re: The GOP's Identity Crisis
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 11, 2009, 07:50:58 AM
Do you know how dangerous a talking snake believing fundy would be in the White House? These types of rightwing fundamentalists love interfering in other people's lives.

Show me where in alaska as Governor she has done that. 

Additionally, compared to what Obama is doing spending us into disaster and racing us towards marxism, I could care less if Palin talked to fire ants at this point.


 
Title: Re: The GOP's Identity Crisis
Post by: Deicide on June 11, 2009, 07:54:15 AM
Show me where in alaska as Governor she has done that. 

Additionally, compared to what Obama is doing spending us into disaster and racing us towards marxism, I could care less if Palin talked to fire ants at this point.


 

You think Palin would rein in spending? Come on? How many Republicans have done that is the last 30 years? ZERO. No one does. That is why we have a one party system.
Title: Re: The GOP's Identity Crisis
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 11, 2009, 07:58:47 AM
You think Palin would rein in spending? Come on? How many Republicans have done that is the last 30 years? ZERO. No one does. That is why we have a one party system.

I dont know, but I do know that she has rteign in spending in Alaska, not taken bailout money, and cant possibly be worse than the Kenyan marxist in the WH.
Title: Re: The GOP's Identity Crisis
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 11, 2009, 08:28:01 AM
More political amnesia!!!

Do you know how utterly STUPID you sound, making such a statement? How is Obama going to announce his candidacy during the 2004 DNC?

That, genius, would have equated to the Dems' bascially handing over the 2004 election to George Bush, which they certainly did NOT do. Obama certainly wouldn't have run for office in '08, had Kerry won in '04.

Obama's speech indicated that he had a bright political future. But, the consensus was that Hilary would be the "anointed one", in the event that Kerry didn't get the job done.

But, as stated earlier, after the 2004 election, the Dems were every bit in as much disarray as the GOP is now: Bickering, finger-pointing, lack of leadership, identity-crisis, the whole ball of wax.



You really clueless about current affairs aren't you?

Do you put much effort into appearing this clueless or does it come naturally?
Title: Re: The GOP's Identity Crisis
Post by: BM OUT on June 11, 2009, 08:28:56 AM
It is going to take more than 3% of your 20% minority party within the GOP to get her on the ticket.

Good luck with those fantasies of yours.  After 2012 chances are you will forget her and go back to staring at your Pamela Anderson posters on your bedroom wall.

Perhaps,but you can bet we wont be looking at Pelosi posters or Tranny Obama posters either.
Title: Re: The GOP's Identity Crisis
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 11, 2009, 08:32:52 AM
Perhaps,but you can bet we wont be looking at Pelosi posters or Tranny Obama posters either.

Boo hoo!  I almost feel bad for you.  Almost.
Title: Re: The GOP's Identity Crisis
Post by: BM OUT on June 11, 2009, 08:34:23 AM
Boo hoo!  I almost feel bad for you.  Almost.

I feel bad for Obama.Imagine waking up next to that lantern jawed tranny every morning with her jaw jutting foreward and her teeth sticking out behind her oversized lips?Christ,Id kill myself.
Title: Re: The GOP's Identity Crisis
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 11, 2009, 08:46:02 AM
I feel bad for Obama.Imagine waking up next to that lantern jawed tranny every morning with her jaw jutting foreward and her teeth sticking out behind her oversized lips?Christ,Id kill myself.

Could be worse.  Obama could be waking up next to you.  So I guess he can't complain.
Title: Re: The GOP's Identity Crisis
Post by: 240 is Back on June 11, 2009, 08:48:21 AM
yeah, obama did start running after doing the keynote in 2004.  Everyone knew it.  It came up on getbig occasionally.  He was the outside chance candidate, of course.
Title: Re: The GOP's Identity Crisis
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 11, 2009, 08:50:32 AM
yeah, obama did start running after doing the keynote in 2004.  Everyone knew it.  It came up on getbig occasionally.  He was the outside chance candidate, of course.

Facts and logic can not penetrate the delusional wall that conservatives hide behind.
Throw in the Jesus gene and you have complete suspension of reality from that side.
Title: Re: The GOP's Identity Crisis
Post by: drkaje on June 11, 2009, 09:05:09 AM
I've always argued that Hillary's ego is 100% responsible for Obama being president. She's an unabashed attention whore and couldn't live without the spotlight long enough for the Ill. seat to become available.

She also underestimated how smart he is.
Title: Re: The GOP's Identity Crisis
Post by: BM OUT on June 11, 2009, 10:23:52 AM
Could be worse.  Obama could be waking up next to you.  So I guess he can't complain.

I bet her penis is bigger then mine.Thats why his ears are so fucking big.When she mounts him from behind she grabs his jug ears and pulls him in while she bangs him.I bet hes probably wishing it were Rev. Wright though.
Title: Re: The GOP's Identity Crisis
Post by: MCWAY on June 11, 2009, 10:45:32 AM

Facts and logic can not penetrate the delusional wall that conservatives hide behind.
Throw in the Jesus gene and you have complete suspension of reality from that side.


Exactly how do you run for President, in the middle of SOMEONE ELSE'S campaign, unless (as stated earlier) the Democrats basically folded the tent early and admitted that Kerry was going to lose?

Many cited the economy and especially IRAQ as Bush's undoing for 2004. But that didn't happen and the liberals' reaction to Bush's re-election was not one of a party, ready to cede the '04 election to "W" and make their big push for 2008. They thought they could beat Bush in 2004. They put their muscle behind Kerry to do that in 2004. But, it wasn't enough to get it done.

I'm afraid the delusion falls on you, namely your foolish assertions that Obama is a lock a second term and that the problems of the GOP are something unique to a minority party.

Title: Re: The GOP's Identity Crisis
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 11, 2009, 10:55:12 AM
#1 No one said he was running in the middle of someone else's campaign.
#2 The DNC Keynote address served as his platform to make his intentions for 2008 crystal clear.
#3 If his "emergence" was shocking to you, it only validates my claim that you are clueless.
#4 GOP in 2012?  Clueless x 2.
Title: Re: The GOP's Identity Crisis
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 11, 2009, 10:59:43 AM
#1 No one said he was running in the middle of someone else's campaign.
#2 The DNC Keynote address served as his platform to make his intentions for 2008 crystal clear.
#3 If his "emergence" was shocking to you, it only validates my claim that you are clueless.
#4 GOP in 2012?  Clueless x 2.

People post articles all the time about issues, whether it be trade, cap & Trade, taxes, spending, deficits, etc.

Not once or ever do you debate issues, you simply hurl insults and then complain when they are hurled back. 

You are notoriously absent from almost any thread dealing with the finances and spending policies of this admn and it seems obvious why.     
Title: Re: The GOP's Identity Crisis
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 11, 2009, 12:08:15 PM
People post articles all the time about issues, whether it be trade, cap & Trade, taxes, spending, deficits, etc.

Not once or ever do you debate issues, you simply hurl insults and then complain when they are hurled back. 

You are notoriously absent from almost any thread dealing with the finances and spending policies of this admn and it seems obvious why.     

People tend to post things irrelevant to a threads topic and discussion when they have nothing else to say.  Once again you clutter up a thread with unrelated whining and nonsense.
Title: Re: The GOP's Identity Crisis
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 11, 2009, 12:11:22 PM
People tend to post things irrelevant to a threads topic and discussion when they have nothing else to say.  Once again you clutter up a thread with unrelated whining and nonsense.

Fine, I look forward to debating taxes and cap & trade next time on the merits without being called a RW nut.  ;D 
Title: Re: The GOP's Identity Crisis
Post by: Dos Equis on June 11, 2009, 12:21:20 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-06-09-poll-parties_N.htm


Poll: Most Don't Know Who Speaks for the GOP


Not surprised.  The GOP is floundering.  No clear message no clear leader.  Democrats are in the same boat.  Obama is the de facto leader, but Democrats aren't unified around a widely accepted message, theme, etc. 
Title: Re: The GOP's Identity Crisis
Post by: Al Doggity on June 11, 2009, 12:32:50 PM
As has been stated multiple times, on multiple news networks, this is par the course for the minority party. We saw much the same thing four years ago. Nobody could tell you who was running things for the Democrats: Dean? Pelosi? Reid? Clinton?

That's why Obama's emergence shocked everyone.

this is actually pretty different. In 2004, you still had some pretty strong democratic voices. And Obama made his "national debut" at the Dem convention, so he was already a rising star by the time Kerry was defeated. Most assumed Hilary was going to run in 2004 and she was already well-known. 

Three years is a long time and anything can happen, but it is pretty remarkable that there aren't any well-known repub candidates on the national stage right now.
Title: Re: The GOP's Identity Crisis
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 11, 2009, 12:39:58 PM
this is actually pretty different. In 2004, you still had some pretty strong democratic voices. And Obama made his "national debut" at the Dem convention, so he was already a rising star by the time Kerry was defeated. Most assumed Hilary was going to run in 2004 and she was already well-known. 

Three years is a long time and anything can happen, but it is pretty remarkable that there aren't any well-known repub candidates on the national stage right now.

Please don't interfere with her little delusions with these bad ol' facts and common sense. 
Title: Re: The GOP's Identity Crisis
Post by: drkaje on June 11, 2009, 12:51:20 PM
this is actually pretty different. In 2004, you still had some pretty strong democratic voices. And Obama made his "national debut" at the Dem convention, so he was already a rising star by the time Kerry was defeated. Most assumed Hilary was going to run in 2004 and she was already well-known. 

Three years is a long time and anything can happen, but it is pretty remarkable that there aren't any well-known repub candidates on the national stage right now.

You're probably right. There probably won't be new leadership until some key concept changes and there's a perceived void to be filled. I don't personally follow it enough to know if any true conservatives are left.

IMO, it depends on how good the economy is in two years. A strong economy benefits someone advocating tax cuts and I have a hard time believing the left would let Obama cut taxes without a fight. They'd rather risk losing than admit tax cuts can help create jobs.
Title: Re: The GOP's Identity Crisis
Post by: Purge_WTF on June 11, 2009, 03:58:14 PM
Ron Paul...?

  People like him and Bob Barr are the only ones who might make me vote Republican again.