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It's plain and simple, it's called "Joe Weider's Mr. Olympia". He'd never allow a competitive mag to boast on it's cover that Team MD member wins the O. Especially after the insults thrown at him from Blechman. Look at the history of the winners.
Dex - Weider guy
Cutler - Weider guy
Coleman - Weider guy ( in this case it didn't matter, Coleman was a beast)
Yates - Weider guy
Haney - Weider guy
Even last year, FLEX boasted these dumb videos making the 2008 O out to be a two person contest between Jay and Dex. No matter how good any of the other guys looked, they already locked up the first and second spot.
This year there are three Weider guys competing for the top spot. Dex, Heath and Cuts.
In 2007 it was obvious that Victor won, but Weider would rather end the contest than allow Blechman to boast about his boy winning.
That's why guys like Gunter and Gustavo got gift placings in the past.
Be good to daddy and daddy will be good to you.
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It's plain and simple, it's called "Joe Weider's Mr. Olympia". He'd never allow a competitive mag to boast on it's cover that Team MD member wins the O. Especially after the insults thrown at him from Blechman. Look at the history of the winners.
Dex - Weider guy
Cutler - Weider guy
Coleman - Weider guy ( in this case it didn't matter, Coleman was a beast)
Yates - Weider guy
Haney - Weider guy
Even last year, FLEX boasted these dumb videos making the 2008 O out to be a two person contest between Jay and Dex. No matter how good any of the other guys looked, they already locked up the first and second spot.
This year there are three Weider guys competing for the top spot. Dex, Heath and Cuts.
In 2007 it was obvious that Victor won, but Weider would rather end the contest than allow Blechman to boast about his boy winning.
That's why guys like Gunter and Gustavo got gift placings in the past.
Be good to daddy and daddy will be good to you.
Well said Weider will make sure Chick doesnt allow non-Weider guys to ever win the title.
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It's plain and simple, it's called "Joe Weider's Mr. Olympia". He'd never allow a competitive mag to boast on it's cover that Team MD member wins the O. Especially after the insults thrown at him from Blechman. Look at the history of the winners.
Dex - Weider guy
Cutler - Weider guy
Coleman - Weider guy ( in this case it didn't matter, Coleman was a beast)
Yates - Weider guy
Haney - Weider guy
Even last year, FLEX boasted these dumb videos making the 2008 O out to be a two person contest between Jay and Dex. No matter how good any of the other guys looked, they already locked up the first and second spot.
This year there are three Weider guys competing for the top spot. Dex, Heath and Cuts.
In 2007 it was obvious that Victor won, but Weider would rather end the contest than allow Blechman to boast about his boy winning.
That's why guys like Gunter and Gustavo got gift placings in the past.
Be good to daddy and daddy will be good to you.
QFT
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It's plain and simple, it's called "Joe Weider's Mr. Olympia". He'd never allow a competitive mag to boast on it's cover that Team MD member wins the O. Especially after the insults thrown at him from Blechman. Look at the history of the winners.
Dex - Weider guy
Cutler - Weider guy
Coleman - Weider guy ( in this case it didn't matter, Coleman was a beast)
Yates - Weider guy
Haney - Weider guy
Even last year, FLEX boasted these dumb videos making the 2008 O out to be a two person contest between Jay and Dex. No matter how good any of the other guys looked, they already locked up the first and second spot.
This year there are three Weider guys competing for the top spot. Dex, Heath and Cuts.
In 2007 it was obvious that Victor won, but Weider would rather end the contest than allow Blechman to boast about his boy winning.
That's why guys like Gunter and Gustavo got gift placings in the past.
Be good to daddy and daddy will be good to you.
True. I made this observation back in 2004. ;)
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Same thing with Arnold over Sergio, Columbu ever winning, Zane always winning over Robinson, Samir over Fox, etc. It's remarkable that the show has any legitimacy at this point.
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Same thing with Arnold over Sergio, Columbu ever winning, Zane always winning over Robinson, Samir over Fox, etc. It's remarkable that the show has any legitimacy at this point.
It's nothing more than a medium to sell more FLEX and M&F magazines. This is bread and butter of the business.
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It's nothing more than a medium to sell more FLEX and M&F magazines. This is bread and butter of the business.
WE HAVE A WINNER!!!!!!
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of course,
nothing to do with muscletech,
all to do with AMI
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and how do you explain the fact that no mr olympia was ever black? rascism?
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of course,
nothing to do with muscletech,
all to do with AMI
No.
Here is why:
Victor=horrible felon and piece of scum human
Wolf= does not look good
Kai=come on now
that is all.
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Same thing with Arnold over Sergio, Columbu ever winning, Zane always winning over Robinson, Samir over Fox, etc. It's remarkable that the show has any legitimacy at this point.
The mr. o contest doesnt hold any legitimacy anymore.
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Same thing with Arnold over Sergio
sometimes
, Columbu ever winning
correct on franco
, Zane always winning over Robinson
Zane FAR outshone RR, always
, Samir over Fox
Samir> Chunky Fox
, etc. It's remarkable that the show has any legitimacy at this point.
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dave palumbo never won the O.
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Kai will win in 09 UNLESS Levrone enters the show ;)
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The mr. o contest doesnt hold any legitimacy anymore.
It does actually, a lot. Reminds me of the Oscars-often the less deserving win but overall they're still watched and albeit less than previously.
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Zane FAR outshone RR, always
, Samir over Fox
Samir> Chunky Fox
If you look at the videos..
-Only in 78, not 77 or 79, Robinson (and Callender) were at least as cut and conditioned as Zane, and of course much much bigger. Zane didn't deserve that one. The common perception that Zane deserved all of them is helped in large part by the dearth of evidence.
http://www.dailymotion.com/search/mr.%252Bolympia/video/x2s3jd_mr-olympia-1978_extreme
-Fox had only himself to blame because he could've won outright even with the politics had he been shredded but again if you look at the video he's still at least as cut as Samir and a lot bigger and more balanced even without benig at his best.
-Same thing with Vic; too many negatives now when there are others who are comparable.
-Sergio ya i meant part of them time; it would have gone back and forth in fair shows, with Sergio and Serge probably winning a fair number of shows in the 70s especially after Arnold retired.
In all cases it's just as a former Olympia winner told me-Weider likes good spokesmen as winners; people without attitudes or baggage. This makes some sense but should be part of the judging criteria, which it's not.
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If you look at the videos..
-Only in 78, not 77 or 79, Robinson (and Callender) were at least as cut and conditioned as Zane, and of course much much bigger. Zane didn't deserve that one. The common perception that Zane deserved all of them is helped in large part by the dearth of evidence.
http://www.dailymotion.com/search/mr.%252Bolympia/video/x2s3jd_mr-olympia-1978_extreme
-Fox had only himself to blame because he could've won outright even with the politics had he been shredded but again if you look at the video he's still at least as cut as Samir and a lot bigger and more balanced even without benig at his best.
-Same thing with Vic; too many negatives now when there are others who are comparable.
-Sergio ya i meant part of them time; it would have gone back and forth in fair shows, with Sergio and Serge probably winning a fair number of shows in the 70s especially after Arnold retired.
In all cases it's just as a former Olympia winner told me-Weider likes good spokesmen as winners; people without attitudes or baggage. This makes some sense but should be part of the judging criteria, which it's not.
What kind of spokesman is Dexter? he can hardly string two sentences together. The guy is a cocky midget, looks like shit in the off-season(for a pro) and then looks the same for the last 50 contests he entered. Plain and simple is that he is a Weider guy.
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Ronnie wasn't a weider athlete when he won the O
end of thread
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Kai's physique is exciting because of his incredible detail, definition, and muscle mass
Jay's just a big dude
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If you look at the videos..
-Only in 78, not 77 or 79, Robinson (and Callender) were at least as cut and conditioned as Zane, and of course much much bigger. Zane didn't deserve that one. The common perception that Zane deserved all of them is helped in large part by the dearth of evidence.
No.
RR had mediocre legs, Callendar's even worse
Zane had great thighs, among the best ever back then
http://www.dailymotion.com/search/mr.%252Bolympia/video/x2s3jd_mr-olympia-1978_extreme
-Fox had only himself to blame because he could've won outright even with the politics had he been shredded but again if you look at the video he's still at least as cut as Samir and a lot bigger and more balanced even without benig at his best.
I just don't see hit. He seemed to 'globby' and not refined
-Same thing with Vic; too many negatives now when there are others who are comparable.
Agreed...baggage
-Sergio ya i meant part of them time; it would have gone back and forth in fair shows, with Sergio and Serge probably winning a fair number of shows in the 70s especially after Arnold retired.
Yes
In all cases it's just as a former Olympia winner told me-Weider likes good spokesmen as winners; people without attitudes or baggage. This makes some sense but should be part of the judging criteria, which it's not.
Agreed
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Wolf is out of the O,
This last weekend he slipped while trampolining and ruptured his spleen.
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Wolf is out of the O,
This last weekend he slipped while trampolining and ruptured his spleen.
Wolf will never win.
he does not have 'it'.
you will soon witness his departure from the stage.
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Wolf will never win.
he does not have 'it'.
you will soon witness his departure from the stage.
Phil Heath is also out do to kayaking accident which left him horribly disfigured
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It's plain and simple, it's called "Joe Weider's Mr. Olympia". He'd never allow a competitive mag to boast on it's cover that Team MD member wins the O. Especially after the insults thrown at him from Blechman. Look at the history of the winners.
Dex - Weider guy
Cutler - Weider guy
Coleman - Weider guy ( in this case it didn't matter, Coleman was a beast)
Yates - Weider guy
Haney - Weider guy
Even last year, FLEX boasted these dumb videos making the 2008 O out to be a two person contest between Jay and Dex. No matter how good any of the other guys looked, they already locked up the first and second spot.
This year there are three Weider guys competing for the top spot. Dex, Heath and Cuts.
In 2007 it was obvious that Victor won, but Weider would rather end the contest than allow Blechman to boast about his boy winning.
That's why guys like Gunter and Gustavo got gift placings in the past.
Be good to daddy and daddy will be good to you.
One problem with your analysis.
Haney won his last two Olympias, while working for MD and Twinlab. In fact, Twinlab marketed the "Lee Haney's Mass Fuel Kit", shortly after he joined their fold (I still have the videotape that came with the kit I got on clearance years ago).
Haney's winning his last two Olympias, working for a rival company and magazine (especially when doing so put him PAST ARNOLD), would make no sense if the "fix" were into play.
Ronnie won his first Olympia, as a member of Team MET-Rx. Weider signed him shortly afterward. Plus, runner-up, Flex Wheeler had left Weider prior to the 1998 Olympia. I believe he was with Bio-Chem. The highest placing bodybuilder, who worked for Weider was 3rd-placed Nasser El Sonbaty.
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Jay, who?
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Jay, who?
Yup,
I'm not sure how much conditioning matters at the O
See Melvin A placing above an Ultra Ripped Silvio last year.
Phil should def beat a soft Cutler without a doubt.
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Jay, who?
Tell me that last one's morphed?
He looks f'in insane there! :o
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Tell me that last one's morphed?
He looks f'in insane there! :o
Nope,
His arms are nuts!
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Nope,
His arms are nuts!
He's an excellent responder to anabolics.
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One problem with your analysis.
Haney won his last two Olympias, while working for MD and Twinlab. In fact, Twinlab marketed the "Lee Haney's Mass Fuel Kit", shortly after he joined their fold (I still have the videotape that came with the kit I got on clearance years ago).
Haney's winning his last two Olympias, working for a rival company and magazine (especially when doing so put him PAST ARNOLD), would make no sense if the "fix" were into play.
Ronnie won his first Olympia, as a member of Team MET-Rx. Weider signed him shortly afterward. Plus, runner-up, Flex Wheeler had left Weider prior to the 1998 Olympia. I believe he was with Bio-Chem. The highest placing bodybuilder, who worked for Weider was 3rd-placed Nasser El Sonbaty.
Great post , but these guys wont recognize logic . if contests were fixed Lee Labrada would be an 8 time Mr Olympia winner and Coleman wouldn't neither would Yates
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One problem with your analysis.
Haney won his last two Olympias, while working for MD and Twinlab. In fact, Twinlab marketed the "Lee Haney's Mass Fuel Kit", shortly after he joined their fold (I still have the videotape that came with the kit I got on clearance years ago).
Haney's winning his last two Olympias, working for a rival company and magazine (especially when doing so put him PAST ARNOLD), would make no sense if the "fix" were into play.
Ronnie won his first Olympia, as a member of Team MET-Rx. Weider signed him shortly afterward. Plus, runner-up, Flex Wheeler had left Weider prior to the 1998 Olympia. I believe he was with Bio-Chem. The highest placing bodybuilder, who worked for Weider was 3rd-placed Nasser El Sonbaty.
Theres probem with your analysis as well...
You see , at the time of lee winning , there were no problems existing between MD and Flex
Secondly Nobody was close to Lee - so how can you fix the contest , it made no sense
Like you said , Ronnie signed with Weider on the heels of becoming MR O - again they controlling the ship
Look at jay vs Victor debacle 2 years ago.Controversy.I think Blechman had realised his folly in having Romano and Palumbo and let them go , as it was ruining his magazine and athetes.Romano is a piece of shit
ND - i thought you were smart - i take it back
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Theres probem with your analysis as well...
You see , at the time of lee winning , there were no problems existing between MD and Flex
The heck it wasn't. You might want to check those old issues of MD again. MD and FLEX have been taking shots at each other for YEARS. The same Steve Blechman that owns the magazine now owned it back then.
On top of all that, the two supplement companies, Twinlab and Weider, were in competition with each other. Haney went from endorsing Weider's goods to those of Twinlab, most notably the aforementioned Mass Fuel kit.
Secondly Nobody was close to Lee - so how can you fix the contest , it made no sense.
Try that again. Remember 1990?
You have the drug testing issue, Haney's jumping ship, AND Haney's potentially tying Schwarzenegger's all-time Olympia record (and beating his consecutive Olympia records). Many people felt that, if there were any time for Haney to fall, it was in 1990. And Labrada came within an eyelash of doing it.
Like you said , Ronnie signed with Weider on the heels of becoming MR O - again they controlling the ship
But, when Ronnie won the title, he was with MET-Rx. Plus, Wheeler (the odds-on favorite to win, coming off a red-hot performance at the Arnold Classic) had JUST LEFT WEIDER to sign with Bio-Chem.
No matter how you slice it, the 1998 Mr. Olympia would go to a man, who (at the time) WAS NOT a Weider-contracted athlete.
Look at jay vs Victor debacle 2 years ago.Controversy.I think Blechman had realised his folly in having Romano and Palumbo and let them go , as it was ruining his magazine and athetes.Romano is a piece of shit
ND - i thought you were smart - i take it back
MD does this foolishness everytime one of its boys gets beat (which further diminishes your claim of there being no beef between MD and FLEX, back in the day). Go back to 1996, when Romano was accusing the IFBB of punishing their (Twinlab) guy, Gerard Dente, for his FOURTH-place finish in the heavyweight class of the North American Championships. Romano was talking smack about Dente being robbed, even though he admitted that HE WASN'T EVEN THERE. He even went so far as to claim that heavweight (and eventual overall) champion, John Simmons, apologized to Dente and stated that Dente should have won.
MuscleMag printed several letters by fans who were actually at the show and said Romano was full of bull. To them and the rest of the audience, Simmons was the hands-down winner. Dente wasn't even in the running. Simmons himself stated in a letter to MuscleMag that, at no time, did he apologize to Dente or anyone else for his victory.
Simmons stated that he was the underdog, because other heavweights (including Dente) had major supplement companies backing them. Plus, they were seasoned heavyweights, while he was making his debut in the class after competing in the light-heavys for YEARS; he won that class at the NAC twice ('91, '92) and at the USA ('93).
MD's purpose in life is to be the anti-FLEX. If FLEX features information about anabolics, MD goes on the "natural" kick, as it did in the mid/late-90s (morphing into "Muscular-Development-Fitness-Health" and eventually to "All-Natural Muscular Development"). When FLEX de-emphasizes drugs and goes back to the basics, MD gets "hardcore" and can't talk about steroids enough. (i.e. "My First Syringe", "Anabolics and me", "Steroids: Taste like Chicken", etc.).